The second Ethernet port on that is for daisy chaining multiple zones together. A lot these types of products are usually consolidated into a rack and all the zones are fed into that central point. The daisy chaining makes it easy network since they don't require a lot of bandwidth.
Spotify is all I use but it also supports apple play. Those work fine but I don't see any other options. For Audio Quality I feel like the speakers have more impact than the amp, that being said this will output more power than the Sonos amp. But im not sure that actually helps as much as just getting better speakers. While Sonos does 125W per channel at 8 ohms Ubiquiti does 130W per channel at 8 ohms or 260W at 4 ohms. Ubiquiti also supports Dolby Atmos and TrueHD and other surround sound formats and specs that I dont understand. As for format, It takes RCA in, HDMI in, and Spotify/AirPlay. And outputs an RCA sub with banana plug speaker ports. For price I think it was $599 USD? Hope that helps!
I think that was mostly on me for having my network so locked down. I dont use wifi in my office if I can help it and the wifi I do have is locked down in several ways to prevent things like multicast. So when I tried to hardwire it I should have known my phone would have a hard time communicating with it through the wifi.
Hello. Do you know if this amp will support Tidal Connect? Or just Spotify? It look nice, but I think if some features will not be available, the Wiim Amp Pro will beat it in almost every situation. Thanks!
I am a Director of IT by day and an Audiophile by night. I run all Unifi (10G) at home, so it is fascinating to me that they would get into audio. Are you into audio as well? I look forward to seeing an audio channel review of this.
Dude from Apple is now working for Ubiquiti, that's why you're seeing Pro + Pro Max etc.; and I suppose the creep into other networkable applications (sound); lots of companies have muzak playing around though, so it's not too much creep.
Does it provide the option of mono summing the output via software? Even the Wiim devices support it. Given UBNT is pushing this as a professional device and expect it to be deployed in large scale they have to support mono summing for use with traditional 70/100v systems via a conversion transformer.
Good overview Brandon. Thanks! I'm looking forward to getting a few soon myself. I'm surprised it's not in the UniFi dashboard. I hope it's coming there as we definitely need complete remote access.
It does make me hesitate to install this for clients because it would require that I am onsite to fix issues or change a configuration. I just cant understand why they would not use the Unifi Dashboard where literally everything else is! It would make this so much easier for me to manage for clients. We will see what they do about it in the coming months.
Spotify and AirPlay are inadequate for a selection of streaming apps at this time. It needs support for DLNA, Plex, as well as other common streaming sources like Amazon. The lack of any IR volume control means this won't work well with things like TV's. I have had lots of problems with Sonos and Ubiquiti, centered around multicast and trying to use Sonos on a IOT VLAN. There need to be more control of multicast over Ubiquiti networks to get things like multiple audio devices working. Sounds like you were running into this very issue with this Ubiquiti Amp, not very good to hear that Ubiquiti hasn't helped us with separating devices onto a VLAN and made them work well with our phones, etc. This device just doesn't seem ready for most applications, as who wants to attach this thing to their TV and then need to get up to change volume rather than use the remote on their TV. This seems like a 1.0 attempt from Ubiquiti where they have missed basic features.
I’m not sure what the point of this device is for home users. I love UniFi stuff, but aside from an enterprise audio system, why would I give up a whole home networked system such as Sonos for this? Also, it’s kinda interesting that the setup was done over several days, my networked speakers have never taken more than 5-10 mins to setup. Again, love UniFi stuff, I just don’t see what this thing does.
Wow, what a misleading title!! 130W vs 125W = insignificant. The total lack of apps and media choices. The difficulty in setting it up. Sonos is clearly the winner here (disclaimer: I would 100% replace my Sonos if I could find something that works as well as their hardware)
I don't notice an audio difference but I am not an audio person really. I will say though, that there is a power difference. I am not really sure how that effects audio quality, I will say that with wifi signals power is king so this might be a similar situation. Power Output: Sonos Amp: 125W per channel at 8 ohms UniFi PowerAmp: 130W per channel at 8 ohms, 260W per channel at 4 ohms Audio Output: Sonos Amp: Stereo UniFi PowerAmp: Stereo and dual mono sound
@@LagniappeIT: all other things being equal (they almost never are) if we can trust the company specs, if there’s only 5 watts difference between the two amps, 125 vs 130, that’s virtually meaningless. There are so many little things that could make one amp sound more powerful than the other that are completely separate from the actual power. 125 vs 130 (with no other difference!) is like a rounding error, it’s worth mentioning if you’re listing the specs, but that’s it. One amp giving specs for 4ohm operation while the other doesn’t? And the output power does a textbook perfect doubling into 4ohms? That’s worth mentioning. Personally I’d want to see how these both performed on a test bench before I went way out on a limb, but if my only concern was the quality of the amp, and I had to buy one only using those specs, the one that doubles power into 4ohms without question.
Sorry, but this is not ready for the market. What about Tidal, Panorama and the numerous other streaming services? Lastly, a speaker wire clamp is just that not a "banana clamp" as stated. A true banana plug hold onto the wire dar more securely.
The second Ethernet port on that is for daisy chaining multiple zones together. A lot these types of products are usually consolidated into a rack and all the zones are fed into that central point. The daisy chaining makes it easy network since they don't require a lot of bandwidth.
Spotify only ? Audio quality ? Bitrate ? Audio format ? Price ???
Yea pls tell us
Spotify is all I use but it also supports apple play. Those work fine but I don't see any other options. For Audio Quality I feel like the speakers have more impact than the amp, that being said this will output more power than the Sonos amp. But im not sure that actually helps as much as just getting better speakers. While Sonos does 125W per channel at 8 ohms Ubiquiti does 130W per channel at 8 ohms or 260W at 4 ohms. Ubiquiti also supports Dolby Atmos and TrueHD and other surround sound formats and specs that I dont understand. As for format, It takes RCA in, HDMI in, and Spotify/AirPlay. And outputs an RCA sub with banana plug speaker ports. For price I think it was $599 USD? Hope that helps!
Useless video
Wish Ubiquiti made a friendly interface for re-broadcasting mDNS or whatever this is using. Same problem with running Home Assistant in a separate LAN
I think that was mostly on me for having my network so locked down. I dont use wifi in my office if I can help it and the wifi I do have is locked down in several ways to prevent things like multicast. So when I tried to hardwire it I should have known my phone would have a hard time communicating with it through the wifi.
I use PFsense for routing. They have a plugin that allows mDNS to be rebroadcast across subnets. It's not perfect, but it works.
It will be hard for them to match the number of services/integrations that Sonos has. But I hope they can do it and do it soon.
Hello. Do you know if this amp will support Tidal Connect? Or just Spotify? It look nice, but I think if some features will not be available, the Wiim Amp Pro will beat it in almost every situation. Thanks!
I am a Director of IT by day and an Audiophile by night. I run all Unifi (10G) at home, so it is fascinating to me that they would get into audio. Are you into audio as well?
I look forward to seeing an audio channel review of this.
Dude from Apple is now working for Ubiquiti, that's why you're seeing Pro + Pro Max etc.; and I suppose the creep into other networkable applications (sound); lots of companies have muzak playing around though, so it's not too much creep.
Does it provide the option of mono summing the output via software? Even the Wiim devices support it. Given UBNT is pushing this as a professional device and expect it to be deployed in large scale they have to support mono summing for use with traditional 70/100v systems via a conversion transformer.
Good overview Brandon. Thanks! I'm looking forward to getting a few soon myself. I'm surprised it's not in the UniFi dashboard. I hope it's coming there as we definitely need complete remote access.
It does make me hesitate to install this for clients because it would require that I am onsite to fix issues or change a configuration. I just cant understand why they would not use the Unifi Dashboard where literally everything else is! It would make this so much easier for me to manage for clients. We will see what they do about it in the coming months.
Spotify and AirPlay are inadequate for a selection of streaming apps at this time. It needs support for DLNA, Plex, as well as other common streaming sources like Amazon. The lack of any IR volume control means this won't work well with things like TV's. I have had lots of problems with Sonos and Ubiquiti, centered around multicast and trying to use Sonos on a IOT VLAN. There need to be more control of multicast over Ubiquiti networks to get things like multiple audio devices working. Sounds like you were running into this very issue with this Ubiquiti Amp, not very good to hear that Ubiquiti hasn't helped us with separating devices onto a VLAN and made them work well with our phones, etc. This device just doesn't seem ready for most applications, as who wants to attach this thing to their TV and then need to get up to change volume rather than use the remote on their TV. This seems like a 1.0 attempt from Ubiquiti where they have missed basic features.
Can you use it as a mono amp ? So i can bridge 2 of them on my stereo setup
Nice , thanks , recommend to start with the spec when comparing two devices
I think I agree! Thanks for the feedback, I will give that a shot going forward!
Good video, nice coverage video ! Liked and sub'd.
does the earc do CEC like the sonos?
the amp is still new they might still add a play app to the controller
I really hope so. It seems to let me select my office from Spotify even when I'm at home. But yea I wish I could manage it from the same portal!
Daisy chain network ports
I’m not sure what the point of this device is for home users. I love UniFi stuff, but aside from an enterprise audio system, why would I give up a whole home networked system such as Sonos for this? Also, it’s kinda interesting that the setup was done over several days, my networked speakers have never taken more than 5-10 mins to setup. Again, love UniFi stuff, I just don’t see what this thing does.
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Wow, what a misleading title!! 130W vs 125W = insignificant. The total lack of apps and media choices. The difficulty in setting it up.
Sonos is clearly the winner here (disclaimer: I would 100% replace my Sonos if I could find something that works as well as their hardware)
Is there an audio quality difference? I'm looking to switch as well.
I don't notice an audio difference but I am not an audio person really. I will say though, that there is a power difference. I am not really sure how that effects audio quality, I will say that with wifi signals power is king so this might be a similar situation.
Power Output:
Sonos Amp: 125W per channel at 8 ohms
UniFi PowerAmp: 130W per channel at 8 ohms, 260W per channel at 4 ohms
Audio Output:
Sonos Amp: Stereo
UniFi PowerAmp: Stereo and dual mono sound
@@LagniappeIT: all other things being equal (they almost never are) if we can trust the company specs, if there’s only 5 watts difference between the two amps, 125 vs 130, that’s virtually meaningless. There are so many little things that could make one amp sound more powerful than the other that are completely separate from the actual power. 125 vs 130 (with no other difference!) is like a rounding error, it’s worth mentioning if you’re listing the specs, but that’s it. One amp giving specs for 4ohm operation while the other doesn’t? And the output power does a textbook perfect doubling into 4ohms? That’s worth mentioning. Personally I’d want to see how these both performed on a test bench before I went way out on a limb, but if my only concern was the quality of the amp, and I had to buy one only using those specs, the one that doubles power into 4ohms without question.
By “vinyl player” do you mean a record player?
they're basically the same thing, yes? if it plays vinyls, it can play records
Vinyl player? Is this really something adults say now? Why on earth not say record player or turntable?
Sorry, but this is not ready for the market. What about Tidal, Panorama and the numerous other streaming services?
Lastly, a speaker wire clamp is just that not a "banana clamp" as stated. A true banana plug hold onto the wire dar more securely.