Using the MC-2 as a watch was super cool!! Gonna be teaching this to my Scouts at this Wednesday's meeting!! Thank you Mr. Canterbury for all that you do!!
For 95% of people... a compass without a map is pointless as they barely know how to use the compass (fully and correctly), and without a map to try and follow... they'd be lost completely. They arent saying the compass other features (ruler, mirror, ect.) are useless. Just they probably shouldn't worry about carrying the COMPASS element if not using it with a map. Honestly, most can't read a map, compass, or know how to pace count and would be better to carry a GPS with a way to recharge it. Sad but true.
@@SavageAirguns , It may be true, but even someone who BELIEVES that they know about a compass can forget one or more uses they SHOULD remember! Dave won't! LOL
At the very least a compass can keep you moving in the same direction. If you keep moving in the same direction you will reach something, a beach, road, town, overhead power lines, something that will help you get found
Even without a map a compass is good for navigation in a pinch. If you enter a trail heading east and got lost, you'll know the way out is westward. This keeps you from walking in circles if you get lost.
Well, I never underestimated the value of a compass, there is so much more I could learn about using one, it seems like you're responding to some modern *not bright folks* who disrespected a tried and true tool. (It's jist a pattern I see a lot with people now a days) People now a days rely too much on techie stuff so I do greatly appreciate this video. Thank you.
As with other comments, I always learn something from Dave, even when I'm not particularly interested in the subject, like trapping. One of my favorites is His "spring pole" variable to a fire bow, and simple methods for making snares, not for trapping, for survival. AS said, Dave goes beyond survival and wood craft, he is a true "outdoors man". .
Wow! Useful info I have not seen before. I used a compass in the Army and when scuba diving but this new info is great. I have had things in my eye that could only be removed with a mirror and a twisted piece of tissue or cotton swab, once when the woods I had to walk to my car to use the mirror. Not even flowing water worked.
Outstanding! 50 years of compass use and I'm blown away by this video. Big Thanks. One more though. I instructed tower climbers how to properly use the mc2 for aligning cell tower antennas accounting for varying degrees of declination across the country. Certainly my compass of choice. Thanks again Dave.
Compasses are so underrated that most hikers are surprised when I whip mine out. Then they don't believe me when I tell them how far there is left to go until they get there. You can also use a magnifier on punk wood to start a fire. Takes more time, but very satisfying.
I have been watching compass videos for the past week. I thought I knew it all. Boy was I wrong :) I just learned so many new functions of the compass thanks to you ! Now I'm going to watch your navigation videos as well ^^ Thank you, kind sir !
That was very interesting Dave. I've been using a Suunto MC-10 for a long time and I'm a pretty experienced navigator, but I learned a few things from this video. You didn't spend much time explained the steps needed to calculate some of those distances and heights, so I'm going to have to watch this video a few times and stop/rewind/start it to figure it out, but I have the gist. Thanks a million for your insight.
Got this one very compass based on recommendations from Corporal's Corner. The main reason I want to increase my skills with a map and compass, is there's no batteries that can die to make it completely useless.
Suunto is a great company, I forget who's advice I took, but I already owned a flat plate Suunto, but I bought the MC-2 as well, it was likely David's recommendation that I went with, it's also the style our troops use I believe, I appreciate the video and the techniques, especially since he's demonstrating with one I own as well , Thanks
I love my mc2 global. You just taught me about a few things i didnt know i could do with the mc2 i used a compass all the time in the army for land navigation. Thanks for the video. I always learn something new.
attaching the compass to a stick tolook under something, reminds me of my time in the military inspecting under wheelarches etc before we entered our vehicles. Some great tips Dave thanks for reminding me to some skills I had forgotten and enightening me to some new skills.
I'm definitely going to look into one of those compasses now. I have a silva map compass that doesn't have a mirror but I believe it has a magnifier on it. I really dig that uses of that secondary arrow as well
Be careful its not a quadrant compass. That's all I'm finding out there right now. Here's the video he mentions that in. ua-cam.com/video/cf8uLgnbB-E/v-deo.html
Hey it’s funny you doing this video I watched an older video of yours the other day and you inspired me to get that exact compass, I got to say it seems a quality bit of kit. Thanks Dave keep up the good work godbless
Dave thanks a lot for posting these videos on land navigation its something i really want to get more practice in. Beard is looking great! by the way... 👍
This was very informative. Thank you for showing me few things I didn't know. P. S watched your 12g BP adapter video a long time ago, finally got one about 8 months ago. Darn handy thing. Always in my bag now, with 10 charges of BP and some buckshot. That I also use in my slingshot and for fishing weights. Have taken a ton of rabbits with it.. Great item. Thank you for putting me on to it
The only problem with distance is land cover, ( trees, little ridges, brush so more often than not if your in the woods theres ground cover to prevent seeing objects, everything else you said about compass is true, good info
Great video Dave some how I get the feeling from reading the comments, that most of them haven't seen your shadow board videos. The watch and shadow board have a common theme.
I have several compasses, Brundig, Silva, etc. to this day I don't own anything in the way of a GPS. Never needed one, couldn't afford one when they first came out (and they were very pricey when they did). A good compass and learning how to read and orient a map with one is to me essential.
Agreed. The compass is under-rated for wilderness AND URBAN survival. Many don't even include it in their list of survival items. Faced with a choice of getting out before dark with a compass or enduring a miserable night in front of a fire because I am lost, I'd choose the former. A compass is also handy in cities. When I rambled around Europe years ago, I found a compass quite helpful for getting about. If I left a rail station headed east for a museum, I returned by merely heading west. And if you don't want to be noticed in a 'grey man' scenario, you'll attract far less attention glancing at a compass than at a map.
Dave, you should do a separate video on just telling time with a compass. I didn’t understand the doghouse reference. A picture with more explanation would be helpful. And do a separate video on latitude with the north star. That would be cool. Great video!
I'm sure Dave will answer, but here is my notes if it helps. As Walter said "doghouse" is American slang for the Orienteering Arrow on a compass, an outline of an arrow on the compass' bezel/dial that corresponds with 0/360 degrees. American children are often taught to align the bezel so that the magnetic needle is within the outline "put red in the shed" i.e. dial's degrees are set so 0 equals magnetic north. In Dave's case he put the southern needle within the orienteering arrow, because he is in the northern hemisphere, and wanted the arrow to point where the sun would be at mid day. Dave then took the degree of the actual sun's position (340°) relative to the middle of the sky to come up with a delta of 20°. Using the ratio of 15° for every hour, I get 10:40 am, so I would guess the sun was a little before 340°, but close enough. A reverse trick is to point the hour hand of an analog watch at the sun, the point between the hour hand and the 12 is due South in the northern hemisphere. There's some math that goes into why this is true, but simply stated the angle polaris is in sky relative to a straight in front of you (the angle your eye has to raise up to be looking directly at the north star) is equal to your latitude on the earth. It's an interesting topic to explore more, and has to do with opposite right triangles between (1) the points of you, the star, the point on the earth directly below the the star and (2) the points of you, the point on the earth directly below the star, and the earth's core.
The Magnifying Lens can also be used for first aid to inspect a cut or splinters. And the ruler on the side to take make small measurements is useful for when you need a distance more precise then you can judge with your eye.
Dave, great video. Please keep them coming. Can you please tell me what camo hooded jacket you're wearing in this (and man of the trapping) videos. I am looking for a synthetic hooded jacket just like that. Please share the source as appropriate. Thanks again and my best to your family.
Dave said the sun travels approximately 15 deg every hour. His reading was 340 deg. This indicates before noon, however, 360-340= 20 degrees. If 15 degrees equals roughly 1 hour of movement that leaves 5 degrees (20-15). So we find that the remaining 5 degrees equals approximately 20 minutes. So 20 degrees is 1hr 20 min before noon. That is approximately 10:40am. How did Dave arrive at 10:30ish? Even with my math, I'm still only 15 min off what his watch says. Pretty cool.
I haven't used a compass since boy scout days 40 years ago. I have a question : will a compass be damaged if stored in close proximity to ferrous items ? Not necessarily magnetic, just ferrous. I want to know how to properly store my compass when not in use.
So with all that said I can do a ton more than I knew! Does that mean you can actually find direction using your watch and the sun then accurately since you can find the time of day?
Very useful tool! I need to do some practice drills or something so I don’t forget how to use mine effectively. Does anyone have any ideas for suburban compass practice?
Using the MC-2 as a watch was super cool!! Gonna be teaching this to my Scouts at this Wednesday's meeting!! Thank you Mr. Canterbury for all that you do!!
Thank you for passing along very useful knowledge to the younger generation.
And most "Survival Channels" claim a compass with out a map is useless. Dave proves them all wrong
That's because most survival channels camp on their own property or familiar property and have no chance of getting lost.
For 95% of people... a compass without a map is pointless as they barely know how to use the compass (fully and correctly), and without a map to try and follow... they'd be lost completely.
They arent saying the compass other features (ruler, mirror, ect.) are useless. Just they probably shouldn't worry about carrying the COMPASS element if not using it with a map. Honestly, most can't read a map, compass, or know how to pace count and would be better to carry a GPS with a way to recharge it. Sad but true.
@@SavageAirguns , It may be true, but even someone who BELIEVES that they know about a compass can forget one or more uses they SHOULD remember! Dave won't! LOL
At the very least a compass can keep you moving in the same direction. If you keep moving in the same direction you will reach something, a beach, road, town, overhead power lines, something that will help you get found
Even without a map a compass is good for navigation in a pinch. If you enter a trail heading east and got lost, you'll know the way out is westward. This keeps you from walking in circles if you get lost.
Would love to hear more about judging distances a little more in detail. Truly an invaluable skill in a survival situation. Thx for the info
he has some videos on it, few years ago or so. search it.
And just think, I recall someone saying a whistle is more valuable than a compass to carry!! Excellent summary of why a good compass is so important.
Well, I never underestimated the value of a compass, there is so much more I could learn about using one, it seems like you're responding to some modern *not bright folks* who disrespected a tried and true tool. (It's jist a pattern I see a lot with people now a days)
People now a days rely too much on techie stuff so I do greatly appreciate this video. Thank you.
I always learn something new with Dave.. kinda mind blown the full utility of a compass i never even realized
Excellent summary of the potential of a compass.
As with other comments, I always learn something from Dave, even when I'm not particularly interested in the subject, like trapping.
One of my favorites is His "spring pole" variable to a fire bow, and simple methods for making snares, not for trapping, for survival.
AS said, Dave goes beyond survival and wood craft, he is a true "outdoors man".
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Wow! Useful info I have not seen before. I used a compass in the Army and when scuba diving but this new info is great. I have had things in my eye that could only be removed with a mirror and a twisted piece of tissue or cotton swab, once when the woods I had to walk to my car to use the mirror. Not even flowing water worked.
Outstanding! 50 years of compass use and I'm blown away by this video. Big Thanks. One more though. I instructed tower climbers how to properly use the mc2 for aligning cell tower antennas accounting for varying degrees of declination across the country. Certainly my compass of choice. Thanks again Dave.
The fire you can make using the magnifying glass is also a "cutting implement" if push comes to shove.
Excellent summary of one of the worlds best and most enduring inventions.
The time thing and distance estimation tool uses were new to me but make total sense and very cool
Thank you 🙏 this old Explorer learned some new things ! Thanks 🙏
Wow, never thought about all that in relation to the compass...thank you
Compasses are so underrated that most hikers are surprised when I whip mine out. Then they don't believe me when I tell them how far there is left to go until they get there.
You can also use a magnifier on punk wood to start a fire. Takes more time, but very satisfying.
This is quality information! I hope a lot of people keep these tips on hand!
I'm impressed and I had no idea. Thanks Dave!
Great informational video Dave
Thanks for sharing it with us
Regards
Clive
Thanks for a couple of hacks I hadn't considered. I always carry a good compass in my bag. The batteries haven't died yet!
I picked up three VERY USEFUL tips that I did not know before. Thanks David!
I have been watching compass videos for the past week. I thought I knew it all. Boy was I wrong :) I just learned so many new functions of the compass thanks to you ! Now I'm going to watch your navigation videos as well ^^ Thank you, kind sir !
Amazing valuable info! Thanks for sharing!
Wow, I was Infantry. I land naved all over the place. You thought me some things about a compass I never knew.
taught.... :p
Thanks for passing along some important info on the many uses of a compass. Adding more and more to my mental toolbox.
That was very interesting Dave. I've been using a Suunto MC-10 for a long time and I'm a pretty experienced navigator, but I learned a few things from this video. You didn't spend much time explained the steps needed to calculate some of those distances and heights, so I'm going to have to watch this video a few times and stop/rewind/start it to figure it out, but I have the gist. Thanks a million for your insight.
Excellent! Very well thought out presentation. I EDC a compass, but no magnifying glass or clinometer.
Great video and perfect timing as I have been practicing with my Suunto the last few weeks. Gives me more to think about and practice.
Got this one very compass based on recommendations from Corporal's Corner. The main reason I want to increase my skills with a map and compass, is there's no batteries that can die to make it completely useless.
Suunto is a great company, I forget who's advice I took, but I already owned a flat plate Suunto, but I bought the MC-2 as well, it was likely David's recommendation that I went with, it's also the style our troops use I believe, I appreciate the video and the techniques, especially since he's demonstrating with one I own as well , Thanks
Great video. All your navigation ones are very informative. Would love one on mapping areas onto a plan
Nicely done brother! 👍🏽👍🏽😎
Awesome! Dave I see the compass 🧭 in a whole new light.
I love my mc2 global. You just taught me about a few things i didnt know i could do with the mc2 i used a compass all the time in the army for land navigation. Thanks for the video. I always learn something new.
Wow! A wealth of knowledge packed into this video! Awesome!
Incredibly helpful, thanks for sharing.
Never realized all those uses. Very helpful tips.
Excellent video Dave. I am getting my compass out today after this video. Lots of knowledge condensed into six minutes.
Dang. Now I want to spend 60 bucks on a compass. . 😬
Thank you Dave for all the helpful info. For real. You are amazing
Dave...What a guy!
Awesome! Just tried the compass as a watch, it was very accurate. Seems I have to add an hour for daylight savings time.
Excellent info Dave- thanks! -Southwest Michigan
This is awesome knowledge. I only knew a few of these. I'll be practicing my latitude and leveling. Great video, man.
Awesome. I will be using this info as I do some scouting.
Good review Dave.
attaching the compass to a stick tolook under something, reminds me of my time in the military inspecting under wheelarches etc before we entered our vehicles.
Some great tips Dave thanks for reminding me to some skills I had forgotten and enightening me to some new skills.
Excellent... I'll try some of those..
Enjoyable video. Thanks
I'm definitely going to look into one of those compasses now. I have a silva map compass that doesn't have a mirror but I believe it has a magnifier on it. I really dig that uses of that secondary arrow as well
Be careful its not a quadrant compass. That's all I'm finding out there right now. Here's the video he mentions that in.
ua-cam.com/video/cf8uLgnbB-E/v-deo.html
Great info as usual. Thanks
Thank you dave. We love you and your videos. I appreciate all you do
Pure GOLD, thanks for posting!
Hey it’s funny you doing this video I watched an older video of yours the other day and you inspired me to get that exact compass, I got to say it seems a quality bit of kit. Thanks Dave keep up the good work godbless
Nice one Dave
Great info! Thank you sir
Excellent Information, Thank You.
Dave thanks a lot for posting these videos on land navigation its something i really want to get more practice in. Beard is looking great! by the way... 👍
Love it, brother! Great video. I always take at least one or two things away from each video you put out on UA-cam.
Awesome video Dave
Great video Dave, i for one would definitely like to see more on night time navigation and star placement...
Thanks for the reminder video.
This was very informative. Thank you for showing me few things I didn't know.
P. S watched your 12g BP adapter video a long time ago, finally got one about 8 months ago. Darn handy thing. Always in my bag now, with 10 charges of BP and some buckshot. That I also use in my slingshot and for fishing weights. Have taken a ton of rabbits with it.. Great item. Thank you for putting me on to it
Dave just got the pathfinder chef kit love it👍🙏❤️🇺🇸
The only problem with distance is land cover, ( trees, little ridges, brush so more often than not if your in the woods theres ground cover to prevent seeing objects, everything else you said about compass is true, good info
Great video Dave some how I get the feeling from reading the comments, that most of them haven't seen your shadow board videos. The watch and shadow board have a common theme.
Oh Thank you for your time and your knowledge..so appreciated..have a much Blessed day..God Bless
I have several compasses, Brundig, Silva, etc. to this day I don't own anything in the way of a GPS. Never needed one, couldn't afford one when they first came out (and they were very pricey when they did). A good compass and learning how to read and orient a map with one is to me essential.
Bravo Dave
Some great information - thanks!
Always love vids like these. Thanks brother
Compass just like a compass in geometry class it’s good for geometry. :-). Thx for the video. I get tired of the GPS guys.
Agreed. The compass is under-rated for wilderness AND URBAN survival. Many don't even include it in their list of survival items. Faced with a choice of getting out before dark with a compass or enduring a miserable night in front of a fire because I am lost, I'd choose the former.
A compass is also handy in cities. When I rambled around Europe years ago, I found a compass quite helpful for getting about. If I left a rail station headed east for a museum, I returned by merely heading west. And if you don't want to be noticed in a 'grey man' scenario, you'll attract far less attention glancing at a compass than at a map.
Never knew you could do so much with a compass 👍thanks
Dave, you should do a separate video on just telling time with a compass. I didn’t understand the doghouse reference. A picture with more explanation would be helpful. And do a separate video on latitude with the north star. That would be cool. Great video!
The box that you align the needle with.
I'm sure Dave will answer, but here is my notes if it helps.
As Walter said "doghouse" is American slang for the Orienteering Arrow on a compass, an outline of an arrow on the compass' bezel/dial that corresponds with 0/360 degrees. American children are often taught to align the bezel so that the magnetic needle is within the outline "put red in the shed" i.e. dial's degrees are set so 0 equals magnetic north. In Dave's case he put the southern needle within the orienteering arrow, because he is in the northern hemisphere, and wanted the arrow to point where the sun would be at mid day.
Dave then took the degree of the actual sun's position (340°) relative to the middle of the sky to come up with a delta of 20°. Using the ratio of 15° for every hour, I get 10:40 am, so I would guess the sun was a little before 340°, but close enough. A reverse trick is to point the hour hand of an analog watch at the sun, the point between the hour hand and the 12 is due South in the northern hemisphere.
There's some math that goes into why this is true, but simply stated the angle polaris is in sky relative to a straight in front of you (the angle your eye has to raise up to be looking directly at the north star) is equal to your latitude on the earth. It's an interesting topic to explore more, and has to do with opposite right triangles between (1) the points of you, the star, the point on the earth directly below the the star and (2) the points of you, the point on the earth directly below the star, and the earth's core.
Yeah, I was going to comment on the camera not displaying what he meant and wished I could see it as he was describing.. thanks for mentioning it.
@@Sacrificial_Mind thank you! that was an extraordinarily good explanation.
The Magnifying Lens can also be used for first aid to inspect a cut or splinters. And the ruler on the side to take make small measurements is useful for when you need a distance more precise then you can judge with your eye.
Thanks Dave. I never knew about a few of those things.
Thanks Mr Dave, you are the Man.
Dave, great video. Please keep them coming. Can you please tell me what camo hooded jacket you're wearing in this (and man of the trapping) videos. I am looking for a synthetic hooded jacket just like that. Please share the source as appropriate. Thanks again and my best to your family.
Dave said the sun travels approximately 15 deg every hour. His reading was 340 deg. This indicates before noon, however, 360-340= 20 degrees. If 15 degrees equals roughly 1 hour of movement that leaves 5 degrees (20-15). So we find that the remaining 5 degrees equals approximately 20 minutes. So 20 degrees is 1hr 20 min before noon. That is approximately 10:40am. How did Dave arrive at 10:30ish? Even with my math, I'm still only 15 min off what his watch says. Pretty cool.
I have the old school issued one , the radioactive one. Lol gonna need a back up now.
Awesome info packed vid for sure, great stuff Dave! 👍😃✌️🇺🇸
Hey Dave. Happy New Year. Great video as always.
Great info in this video, thanks.
Excellent tips!
Awesome! Thanks.
Great video I never new most of that
👍👍 Well I will be darned. I learned some good stuff today. That would work a treat with my telescope tripod setup too. 🤔
I attached my ranger beads to my compass. Made a set from doubled up paracord and some stainless steel nuts
Thank you Sir.
I had no idea there were that many uses for a compass 🧭. I'll definitely be adding one to my gear.
i been reading your books this winter just finished 101
Never thought of using it as a level!!!
Great video brother, I learnt a few new ones here, gonna put these into practice 👍🏼🙏🏼
I haven't used a compass since boy scout days 40 years ago. I have a question : will a compass be damaged if stored in close proximity to ferrous items ? Not necessarily magnetic, just ferrous. I want to know how to properly store my compass when not in use.
Thank you @davecanterbury for another helpful video
Outstanding!
How about some navigation videos? I would definitely be interested in that also.
I have an entire playlist of Navigation videos
@@DavidCanterbury ill check them out. Thanks for all you do for all of us.
One of the most important movie about a compasses. B.O.B. needs multifuncional items as it is.
Excellent video thanks for the vdeo and time 👍
So with all that said I can do a ton more than I knew!
Does that mean you can actually find direction using your watch and the sun then accurately since you can find the time of day?
Very useful tool! I need to do some practice drills or something so I don’t forget how to use mine effectively. Does anyone have any ideas for suburban compass practice?