haha i always think of that when i see this hand, it would have been such a curve ball if villain just semibluffs 89cc, gets there, JT tries to slowroll and dies, roooolll credits.
@@LookOutside... well maybe if a showdown is enforced by the dealer. Because villain died the moment he called. It's a bad system to take the current lifetime instead of chips that are worth lifetime.
@@LookOutside... No, he does not. Dealer is not allowed to turn his hand over, he has to do that by himself. Hard to do when you are dead. Even more funny when there is a sidepot. One player all in and two other player still in the hand. You are dead for sure in such a situation. This entire system makes absolutely zero sense.
"if there's ever a moment to slow roll someone it's when they have 19 seconds to live" lmfao. Could you imagine calling the floor manager "floor! my opponent dropped dead! Is this my pot?"
People that actually know and understand poker can't help but get a bit irritated seeing this kind of ridiculous play. However, on the bright side it at least convinces the public that it's all just about getting lucky.
@@JaydenJohnson-d9v Ohhh, OK so math and statistics don't work where you play, huh. Just stop it... you are only remembering the bad beats. The big question to me is how can the physical laws of the universe not apply to you and your game. I think in reality you are badly over valuing hands and getting in with some weak holdings on draw heavy dynamic boards.
Apparently it's extremely difficult to show reasonable poker action. It's either stupid like that or a straight flush beating a couple of full houses like in Casino Royale.
@@tyronelol Rounders is much better than most but even it has some questionable play. Mikey's all in in the early scene is a classic game theory disaster; the flush is usually going to fold to that bet.
Also he thinks the villain is weak so he chases a gutshot with no showdown value rather than raise and try to bluff him off his hand. But after the river the villain is still value betting if this was a real hand, but whoever wrote the scene somehow thinks that top set is weak at that point. Like the guy is bluffing top set at the end.
You just mentioned it a bit but it should be explained more. if the pot on the flop is already 600 and hero is left with 250 that means that he had to at least put 50% of his stack pre flop on 84 off suit :D :D
that is why this stuff is shown from flop/turn bc how can u explain one pushing half his stack with 84? Did he tried to bluff the guy with QQ and got called?
yeah. movie poker scenes are so bad. like of course not everybody is a poker player that will watch the movie. but come one, just ask at least some shitty microstakes grinder to at least make a poker scene somewhat believable.
"but come one, just ask at least some shitty microstakes grinder to at least make a poker scene somewhat believable" -- Some version of this thought crosses my mind in like every movie. Including non-poker movies. For example, literally 80% of the problems with Disney's new Star Wars films could have been solved by paying a couple of random fans the price of a coffee to just look over a few scripts and just make sure they aren't complete trash. If the median trash score awarded by the fans you ask is greater than 5/10, you have to fix the script, it's just that simple.
I've never played poker for real money, I've played some online for fun and with my friends and I could easily draft a better movie scene, some bad beat like losing to the nut flush or a one outter full house.
It's funny I remember my first time watching this scene thinking the exact same thing. It was a night on DVD and I jumped forward to grab the remote and rewind that shit. The villain guy had a rocking hand all the way from the deal and would have been throwing money at that pot like a cheap hooker before even seeing a flop. When Timberlake said "I think you're weak" I died laughing. He had 3rd nuts pre-flop, the nuts ON the flop, the nuts the turn, and loses to a garbage hand on the river. That kinda shit gets you shot in the wild west.
to be fair, when the money he has is x10 of this pot (which the pot is already extremely high judging by how timberlake has only won 200 years before the scene), we can have a garbage hand and see a table of lower hands (no full house, no flush possible, straight is only in the question by the end), then timberlake got a reasonable read, that amount really off the range for a value
there's a worst scene in Gossip Girl. Villian wins a huge pot and busts our hero. We pull out more cash to go again and hero's friend comes up with the line "he's on tilt now, you can win this" but... that's not what.. that means....
Ikr. I sat next to a pretentious dude. He kept saying utg. And other stupid cringey poker terms. Constantly talking about strategy and annoying poker "lingo"
I used to complain that movies and TV always got gambling and sports wrong. When I heard a doctor talking about how unfathomable things are in the show House, it hit me. They get everything wrong. I happen to know sports and gambling, so I could see it.
i mean, the movie maker obviously studied movie, not sport or gambling or medical. even if they did have the knowledge, they would priority what sell better to the majority of audience, very rarely one can make both a realistic scenario and still sell the excitement to the uneducated (in certain field) audience especially in the 3 field you mentioned, most stressful moment would come by as "every other tuesday" for the general audience. take the scene here, no one in the right mind would call with that flop, but he did anyway, and actually got away with the river. because no one who played at any high stake would think that he would even hold a 89s with that call, but it makes a good scene, thats why we almost never see blackjack in movies, because theyre boring to watch without knowing how to play other than just the rules
Given how little time currency he had left, he did the equivalent of going all in in a tournament where you have one chip left. Time would have run out before they could play another hand, so he had nothing to lose.
Hey, any two cards can win. It's been forever since I saw the movie, and I only watched it once, but I forgot how bad that poker scene was. Now I'm wondering if cheating was involved and that's how he knew he was going to win. Back in the day when I was legally allowed to play poker online, I swear the donkeys that won with crap hands on the river had to have some cheating program to see everyone's cards and what the hand was going to be. Plus, how could someone go all-in if it meant all their time was gone, even if they win?
This was pretty much my experience playing poker. Me and the other guys had studied the rules and tried to make smart plays. This one guy has no idea and just goes with the flow. Ended up destroying is.
😢Hollywood doesn’t treat my niche with the respect it deserves. Wait until you notice Hollywood treats no game, hobby, interest or skill with any degree of realism, because it’s entirely redundant to the story unless the story is specifically about said niche hobby
To be fair when Hero says "I think you're weak" it's obviously meant to be speech play, they just stole that bit from Rounders "I don't think you have the spades" etc
Poker in movies will always be cringe to me. Just Knowing that the outcome was made up - written by a screenwriter - just takes all the seriousness out of any poker scene. I hate them all. Although some are worse than others ofc
This scene could had been very well made with a different board. Players are literally bringing everything they have, when they bluff they are bluffing with their life, not just a poker stacks. If the writer truly understood, it had potential to make the best poker scene yet they flopped it hard.
It's pretty bad but I still think the final hand of Maverick is still the most ridiculous. People have countered my argument there by saying that the deck was stacked, but if it was stacked then why would they put the one card that Mel Gibson needs to win anywhere near a spot it could be dealt.
With a gutshot you have 4 outs meaning 8%, If you have to pay 50 to earn 650. 100:13= Less then 8. Meaning you can call on the turn. If you would have 200 years left, thats plenty.
I did this exact thing playing the NIT Game. It was down to me and one other. So I had to call my 84o. Flop had an 8. turn had a 4. He had pocket queens. Haha
At least they didn't splash the pot or vio,ate a table stakes rule. As good as the Sting poker scene was, the Sting threw poker etiquette out the window.
The one scene I think is cringier is in Rounders when Mike puts his life savings on being good enough to sit at KGB's table, because he bluffed Johnny Chan in one hand after he played tight for an hour, mostly folding. I mean of COURSE Chan is going to believe a player in a scenario like that. Beating a pro in a single hand with ideal circumstances doesn't mean you're suddenly good enough to sit at a high roller table. Oh, and he committed to his action without even thinking about Chan's cards. He just decided that he was going to outplay him and went for him, regardless of the possibility of him having the nuts or anything with a shred of showdown value.
Let's be real tho, this scene isn't about poker, and it never tried to make him look skillful. This scene was about showing he's reckless, he's used to having death approach him every single day, and also his loved ones, being always on the edge of running out of time. He bet everything and would have done the same thing with 7-2 off and nothing else on the river.
89s would have actually been hi-key very good. I didn't notice that till you pointed it out. I actually assumed the gut-shot the hero was playing was 89s. Then I saw it was 84o and I laughed out loud. Of the 3 gut-shots available, 84o was by far, the worst one.
He called me with 84o, honey!
😂😂
if there was no luck id be immortal!
Yeah I remember that a Phil Helmuth moment lol
😂😂😂
Hahahaha
villain shows 98 clubs and hero dies
haha i always think of that when i see this hand, it would have been such a curve ball if villain just semibluffs 89cc, gets there, JT tries to slowroll and dies, roooolll credits.
"someone's always got... the high end..😵"
🤣
Yeah that woild make more sense cause its double gutter
@@glennhagstedtis there button for the dealer to push to signify who won. What if dealer made a mistake or push wrong button.
This is a typical day in GG Poker
haha, this is a typical 10 minutes on GG.
monopoly go poker
“I knew I was going to win. I’m the star and there’s still an hour left in the movie.”
Would've been hilarious if he lost and the rest of the movie was just his funeral procession
Villain can't lose, he just needs to go all in every hand. Whoever calls with a smaller stack just dies and villain takes the pot
When people call him and have a better hand, he loses
@@LookOutside... well maybe if a showdown is enforced by the dealer. Because villain died the moment he called. It's a bad system to take the current lifetime instead of chips that are worth lifetime.
@@LookOutside... When people call him they die instantly coz they have 0 time left
@@LookOutside... No, he does not. Dealer is not allowed to turn his hand over, he has to do that by himself. Hard to do when you are dead.
Even more funny when there is a sidepot. One player all in and two other player still in the hand. You are dead for sure in such a situation.
This entire system makes absolutely zero sense.
Conceivably, in non table-stakes games, you're allowed to find someone to loan you the money to make the call.
"if there's ever a moment to slow roll someone it's when they have 19 seconds to live" lmfao. Could you imagine calling the floor manager "floor! my opponent dropped dead! Is this my pot?"
People that actually know and understand poker can't help but get a bit irritated seeing this kind of ridiculous play. However, on the bright side it at least convinces the public that it's all just about getting lucky.
I play against guys who call massive bets with four-outers constantly
And they get there at a ridiculously higher percentage than the “stats” predict
@@JaydenJohnson-d9v Odds are odds, just gotta hang in there, and make sure your bankroll can sustain the downturns.
@@_Coffee4Closers I have plenty of bankroll. I don’t have as a desire to continue running the way I’ve been running for three full years.
@@_Coffee4Closers the same players keep piling chips in with somewhere between two and six out and getting there about 90% of the time
@@JaydenJohnson-d9v Ohhh, OK so math and statistics don't work where you play, huh. Just stop it... you are only remembering the bad beats. The big question to me is how can the physical laws of the universe not apply to you and your game. I think in reality you are badly over valuing hands and getting in with some weak holdings on draw heavy dynamic boards.
“Hands kicks off of the turn because apparently budget couldn’t afford preflop scene” hahah😂
Just like the hero they were playing with seconds on their clock
My solver says I need to randomize .03% of the time with my life on the line with 8-4 OS, this just happened to be that time.
Bro you got me howling 😂
Same 😂😂😂😂😂 @@Nivnuv
Yeah, if you play too face-up you get killed at those tables.
😂😂😂
Only legitimate explanation after such a play
Apparently it's extremely difficult to show reasonable poker action. It's either stupid like that or a straight flush beating a couple of full houses like in Casino Royale.
I mean Rounders came out in 1998 lol
@@tyronelol Rounders is much better than most but even it has some questionable play. Mikey's all in in the early scene is a classic game theory disaster; the flush is usually going to fold to that bet.
@@doktarr but not if you tell them you don’t think they have the spades!
The Adults (2023) has some of the best poker scenes I’ve ever seen. Highly reccomend
@@BrianFegan Will watch it today thanks for the recommendation! Did you ever watch Mississippi Grind? Good gambling movie.
Poker Bounty woke up on the wrong side of the bed today 😅🤣😂
Cringiest moment? Nick Vertucci : Hold my beer . 🍺
He would ask the massage lady to hold his beer
@@doubleg122memes4 That's not his beer he wants her to hold
Also he thinks the villain is weak so he chases a gutshot with no showdown value rather than raise and try to bluff him off his hand. But after the river the villain is still value betting if this was a real hand, but whoever wrote the scene somehow thinks that top set is weak at that point. Like the guy is bluffing top set at the end.
Bruuuhhhhh soaks the carpets 😂😂😂😂😂 im dying, funniest shit ever. Please do the Casino Royale hand next, im begging you 🙏
You just mentioned it a bit but it should be explained more.
if the pot on the flop is already 600 and hero is left with 250 that means that he had to at least put 50% of his stack pre flop on 84 off suit :D :D
that is why this stuff is shown from flop/turn bc how can u explain one pushing half his stack with 84?
Did he tried to bluff the guy with QQ and got called?
Ya or the result of some other obsecene possibilities involving other players. Good point!
yeah. movie poker scenes are so bad. like of course not everybody is a poker player that will watch the movie. but come one, just ask at least some shitty microstakes grinder to at least make a poker scene somewhat believable.
Jeez.. why do I have to be all those names?
"but come one, just ask at least some shitty microstakes grinder to at least make a poker scene somewhat believable" -- Some version of this thought crosses my mind in like every movie. Including non-poker movies. For example, literally 80% of the problems with Disney's new Star Wars films could have been solved by paying a couple of random fans the price of a coffee to just look over a few scripts and just make sure they aren't complete trash. If the median trash score awarded by the fans you ask is greater than 5/10, you have to fix the script, it's just that simple.
I've never played poker for real money, I've played some online for fun and with my friends and I could easily draft a better movie scene, some bad beat like losing to the nut flush or a one outter full house.
It's funny I remember my first time watching this scene thinking the exact same thing. It was a night on DVD and I jumped forward to grab the remote and rewind that shit.
The villain guy had a rocking hand all the way from the deal and would have been throwing money at that pot like a cheap hooker before even seeing a flop.
When Timberlake said "I think you're weak" I died laughing.
He had 3rd nuts pre-flop, the nuts ON the flop, the nuts the turn, and loses to a garbage hand on the river.
That kinda shit gets you shot in the wild west.
to be fair, when the money he has is x10 of this pot (which the pot is already extremely high judging by how timberlake has only won 200 years before the scene), we can have a garbage hand and see a table of lower hands (no full house, no flush possible, straight is only in the question by the end), then timberlake got a reasonable read, that amount really off the range for a value
actually laughed out loud numerous times with your commentary, fair play
'by a girl looking like she stole a few polar bears...!!!' 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You killed it with commentary 😂
plot twist: the moviemakers just put that scene in to tilt real poker players
Talk about a “hit and run” 😂😂😂
lmao more of these videos please
Poker movie scenes? I’m in…
I seen this movie… but your commentary is *chefs kiss*.. 😂😂
there's a worst scene in Gossip Girl. Villian wins a huge pot and busts our hero. We pull out more cash to go again and hero's friend comes up with the line "he's on tilt now, you can win this" but... that's not what.. that means....
winners tilt?
@@Johann757 exactly why it's a bad scene
@@unholyXromance winner's tilt exists. Maybe he knows his man!
@Johann757 Been playing poker for 18 years, and I've never experienced it in my entire life
Seems like standard $1-$2 play
This is how truckers feel watching Smokey and the Bandit.
2:25 not even gus hansen would touch while sober LOL.
Poker slang is actually insanely cringe and low IQ. It's like listening to someone talk about their MMO character's inventory.
Ikr. I sat next to a pretentious dude. He kept saying utg. And other stupid cringey poker terms. Constantly talking about strategy and annoying poker "lingo"
I used to complain that movies and TV always got gambling and sports wrong. When I heard a doctor talking about how unfathomable things are in the show House, it hit me. They get everything wrong. I happen to know sports and gambling, so I could see it.
i mean, the movie maker obviously studied movie, not sport or gambling or medical. even if they did have the knowledge, they would priority what sell better to the majority of audience, very rarely one can make both a realistic scenario and still sell the excitement to the uneducated (in certain field) audience
especially in the 3 field you mentioned, most stressful moment would come by as "every other tuesday" for the general audience. take the scene here, no one in the right mind would call with that flop, but he did anyway, and actually got away with the river. because no one who played at any high stake would think that he would even hold a 89s with that call, but it makes a good scene, thats why we almost never see blackjack in movies, because theyre boring to watch without knowing how to play other than just the rules
"Pyay that mank hees monyey. He beat me stryayt up"
"as his female friend soaks the carpet in admiration of his manly prowess"
That's it😂😂😂😂best line in the clip
Did you say, "soaks the carpets?" 😂😂
Gus Hanson not playing this hand even if he was sober 😅😅😅
The point is, Justin made a call with his life on stake, only having SECOND nuts.
Who of you would have called?
This is the funniest hand analysis I have ever seen.
Dozens of movies routinely show enactments of string bets . . .
"I'll call your bet of a farm and raise you 2 ranches & a gold mine"
FLOOR !!!
Somebody put a string bet in a poker scene 100 years ago and now every writer puts one in because originality.
"Why'd you shove with 84o?" "Oh, I follow Greg goes all in."
love your videos fencer keep up the good work i just think u do too much live games the bonus openings are way more fun to watch
Narration is gold!
I love the "doesn't stick around another orbit or two out of courtesy"
Given how little time currency he had left, he did the equivalent of going all in in a tournament where you have one chip left. Time would have run out before they could play another hand, so he had nothing to lose.
Hey, any two cards can win.
It's been forever since I saw the movie, and I only watched it once, but I forgot how bad that poker scene was. Now I'm wondering if cheating was involved and that's how he knew he was going to win. Back in the day when I was legally allowed to play poker online, I swear the donkeys that won with crap hands on the river had to have some cheating program to see everyone's cards and what the hand was going to be.
Plus, how could someone go all-in if it meant all their time was gone, even if they win?
Pretty much exactly how I get beat at the casino poker room lately!
This is the best hand breakdown I’ve ever seen.
Poker Bounty so infuriated he will not utter the name of the movie lol
In time or Intime
How can you call this the cringiest Poker scene, when the James Bond Royal Casino Poker scene exists
soaks the carpets in admiration of his manly prowess...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm going to have to remember that one
This was pretty much my experience playing poker. Me and the other guys had studied the rules and tried to make smart plays. This one guy has no idea and just goes with the flow. Ended up destroying is.
The Casino Royale hand scene is also absurd
Molly's "He folded the mathematical nuts" Game
Correct. That’s the cringiest scene, with the poker game in Casino Royale a close second. Everyone seemingly gets literally the top 5 nut hands? Nah.
This was pure gold!😂😂😂😂😂
I really liked the concept of this movie, but it was executed pretty poorly ngl. 😂 This scene is hilarious. The analysis is killer 😂
😢Hollywood doesn’t treat my niche with the respect it deserves. Wait until you notice Hollywood treats no game, hobby, interest or skill with any degree of realism, because it’s entirely redundant to the story unless the story is specifically about said niche hobby
*goes all in*
**Fuckin dies**
Awesome premise, garage execution
To be fair when Hero says "I think you're weak" it's obviously meant to be speech play, they just stole that bit from Rounders
"I don't think you have the spades" etc
lol I just saw this a few days ago too
great timing
I'm not sure if you did this one, but there's also a Poker scene in the TV show LOST that is quite bad and might be worth analyzing.
Poker in movies will always be cringe to me. Just Knowing that the outcome was made up - written by a screenwriter - just takes all the seriousness out of any poker scene. I hate them all. Although some are worse than others ofc
🤣somebody call the floor! lmao
I read somewhere 84 was a tribute for the Orwell book
I think Molly's game is probably the only good poker movie I've ever seen. This scene is certainly up there among ludicrous, nonexistent scenarios.
Hilarious analysis
You’re wrong about Gus. Watch his Premier League comeback where he goes All in almost every hand including 9-3 off
Same here. My full house got beat by some dudes four of a kind on the last card. I kept raisin and he kept callin. Weird
"as his female friend soaks the carpets in admiration of his manley prowess"
This scene could had been very well made with a different board. Players are literally bringing everything they have, when they bluff they are bluffing with their life, not just a poker stacks. If the writer truly understood, it had potential to make the best poker scene yet they flopped it hard.
I had trips! - John "Villain" Juanda
It's pretty bad but I still think the final hand of Maverick is still the most ridiculous. People have countered my argument there by saying that the deck was stacked, but if it was stacked then why would they put the one card that Mel Gibson needs to win anywhere near a spot it could be dealt.
Gus being drunk works better, but i still love it !
They should've given the hero 89 so he has a double gutshot on the turn at least
How would you even jam in a game like this
Villain's thoughts : "FKN FISH!!!!!!"
the hero has never played poker before in his life. why do you expect him to make the right moves?
so the blinds were 1y/2y?
With a gutshot you have 4 outs meaning 8%, If you have to pay 50 to earn 650. 100:13= Less then 8. Meaning you can call on the turn.
If you would have 200 years left, thats plenty.
So, being a mindreader and knowing his 4 outs were live means he can call? What if villian had 89 of clubs?
4 is in online poker is pretty much certainty when it's the villian's outs;).
I did this exact thing playing the NIT Game. It was down to me and one other. So I had to call my 84o. Flop had an 8. turn had a 4. He had pocket queens. Haha
At least they didn't splash the pot or vio,ate a table stakes rule. As good as the Sting poker scene was, the Sting threw poker etiquette out the window.
The one scene I think is cringier is in Rounders when Mike puts his life savings on being good enough to sit at KGB's table, because he bluffed Johnny Chan in one hand after he played tight for an hour, mostly folding. I mean of COURSE Chan is going to believe a player in a scenario like that. Beating a pro in a single hand with ideal circumstances doesn't mean you're suddenly good enough to sit at a high roller table. Oh, and he committed to his action without even thinking about Chan's cards. He just decided that he was going to outplay him and went for him, regardless of the possibility of him having the nuts or anything with a shred of showdown value.
Let's be real tho, this scene isn't about poker, and it never tried to make him look skillful. This scene was about showing he's reckless, he's used to having death approach him every single day, and also his loved ones, being always on the edge of running out of time. He bet everything and would have done the same thing with 7-2 off and nothing else on the river.
Needed Phil Helmuth to be the villan so we could have seen an appropriate rant
Oceans 11 when brad pit is teaching poker and eric foreman goes all in with all reds
Realest betting I've seen hahaha.
84o - It makes perfect sense...
Plot armor did it once again.
The kind of hand I play against in online poker
01:33, never trust anybody with hands that fast.
89 was double gutter on the turn.
89s would have actually been hi-key very good. I didn't notice that till you pointed it out. I actually assumed the gut-shot the hero was playing was 89s. Then I saw it was 84o and I laughed out loud. Of the 3 gut-shots available, 84o was by far, the worst one.
I would of said wait I’m thinking 😂
Think it represents rags to riches and the fact they are from two different backgrounds
This is a terrible movie. I didn’t even make it this far in before just turning it off.
It's still not as bad as Shade.
Guy shouldve waited 30 seconds for instant win... What a plonker hh
The whole film is ridiculous
Rampage approves.
I had few bad beats like that one against Russians when they were allowed at PS
'Cringiest' isn't the appropriate adjective in your thumbnail description. 'Ridiculous' is.
Well, when you put it like that...
"Second nuts" Theres only one NUTS, that is what makes it the nuts lol. As soon as the last card was dealt, 8-4 WAS the nuts.
U dont get it, for the ppl that made the movie 84 straight means something I think
You do realize that if he had lost the story would have been very short and only the good stories are made into movies..