If Biden Wins in 2024, This Happens! - War, Rich vs Poor, Putin, Israel & Border Crisis | Dave Rubin

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  • Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
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    Welcome to Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu! In today's episode, we have an in-depth and provocative conversation with our guest, Dave Rubin. From political power plays to personal reflections, this episode covers it all. Dave opens up about a near-death experience that changed his perspective, balancing fatherhood with professional commitments, and why he supports certain political figures over others.
    We dive into the complexities of Biden’s cognitive decline and the media’s narrative control. Dave gives his candid views on the Democratic Party's pursuit of power, the implications of money printing, and the true cost of war. We explore the Israel-Palestine conflict, the foundational values of America, and the implications of immigration policies on national identity.
    Dave also reveals his thoughts on potential presidential candidates, like RFK's impact on political dynamics, and offers a candid look at Trump’s achievements and faults. Adding depth to our discussion, we address the moral and ideological divides affecting the United States and dig into controversial topics, including diverse religious integration, socialism, and international politics.
    Join us for a thought-provoking episode that challenges conventional wisdom and pushes the boundaries of political and cultural discourse. Don’t miss this episode where we confront the uncomfortable truths and explore the profound questions shaping our world today.
    SHOW NOTES:
    00:00 Doubts about Biden's leadership and control.
    14:37 Debate on immigration and its potential impact.
    24:44 Trump as president, advisor in dismantling government.
    33:02 Creating money devalues existing currency, funds wars.
    51:05 NYC police officers retire early, move to Florida.
    58:37 Avoid discussing divisive topic to prevent manifestation.
    01:10:14 America's economy and freedom define its appeal.
    01:13:57 Balancing immigration for economy and national security.
    01:27:00 Concerns about immigration, government dependence, and education.
    01:43:44 Islam and Christianity differ in evangelizing methods.
    01:53:00 Japan can control immigration policy, unlike America.
    02:00:23 Israel is a tiny country surrounded by challenges.
    02:14:21 Gaza devastation, political solution, Hamas destruction needed.
    02:17:04 Criticism of Middle East liberal values and Egypt.
    02:35:39 Challenges in the Middle East, religion's influence.
    02:38:17 Israeli soldier deaths, video impact, religious ties.
    02:53:49 Acknowledging good work while expressing concern.
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  • @TomBilyeu
    @TomBilyeu  14 днів тому +39

    WARNING: I will never ask for your contact info in the comments section, that is someone impersonating me!

    • @adamdonovan4071
      @adamdonovan4071 14 днів тому +2

      I watched a lecture by that scientist, and was terrified by what he failed to see from the incident with the companies troop…they ended up fully dependent on the scientists for food. All the alphas that were willing and able to go in search of new food sources died. The now matriarchal troop was unwilling to go in search of food and the scientists had to put them down when they left, because they were now dependent. So yes, you can change culture, but that culture may in fact kill the society.
      Shocking that a scientist missed this, but it seems to have contradicted what he thought was good, so his ignored it.

    • @blazayblazay8888
      @blazayblazay8888 14 днів тому +1

      DAM BRO YOU’VE GONE ALL THE WAY OVER THERE HUH?

    • @LeonardoPisano-sn2lp
      @LeonardoPisano-sn2lp 13 днів тому +1

      Israel is a parasite the US never needed them

    • @pippadora
      @pippadora 13 днів тому

      Please research why the Switzerland's immigration laws and integration works so well!
      The UEA is the only secular Muslim country that works. Economy and stability is more important than the extremists of their religion.

    • @pippadora
      @pippadora 13 днів тому +1

      You should study Tommy Robinson's life and fight over the past decade... whether you agree or not, he is unfortunately right. It's not an idea, his views are based on past present and foreseeable future.

  • @dasfahrer8187
    @dasfahrer8187 14 днів тому +175

    There's one more step in that money printing process that Tom didn't mention, and it's that those military-industrial companies then donate back to the politicians and parties that green light the wars, printing and spending. It's not money printing, it's money laundering.

    • @LegendMM600
      @LegendMM600 14 днів тому +2

      Damn. That sounds totally like what happens! 😆

    • @TheWhitehiker
      @TheWhitehiker 14 днів тому +2

      Too perfect, it's not that simple.

    • @atheplummer
      @atheplummer 14 днів тому +4

      Yup, no different than tipping your dealer heavily in Las Vegas.

    • @TheWhitehiker
      @TheWhitehiker 14 днів тому

      @@atheplummer Too perfect negative.

    • @OkTxSheepLady
      @OkTxSheepLady 14 днів тому +3

      Yes! I hope Tom will clip that segment. It is so clear maybe the bleeding hearts will understand why coming to the “aid” of countries is destructive to both them and us.

  • @pippadora
    @pippadora 13 днів тому +14

    It is a question of culture, again. I can guarantee that you will not be welcome in a Japanese home if you don't take your shoes off... this is not racism. This is respecting the other's culture or values when you visit their home, their land. There is the 'Other', and the Other should also be respected as it should respect their 'Other'...

  • @walkonearthofficial
    @walkonearthofficial 14 днів тому +125

    “Never interrupt your enemy while they are destroying themselves.” What a F’n quote 😂

  • @bigbore4498
    @bigbore4498 14 днів тому +90

    Evil and corruption exist on both sides. Arguing on which side is the worst is exactly what “they” want. Because it’s still dividing us.

    • @kirtjames1353
      @kirtjames1353 14 днів тому

      Maga has truly become evil. Bidens record shows he is good.

    • @user-dq6jz7oq5m
      @user-dq6jz7oq5m 14 днів тому

      completely agree with you - there is a classic trick politicians do on people - division which is the beginning of fascism and it is EASY to play people in the direction that politicians want.

    • @hungrymusicwolf
      @hungrymusicwolf 14 днів тому +6

      It's what the selfish people want. That's the they that want us to fight each other.

    • @clarkwestfield7818
      @clarkwestfield7818 14 днів тому

      Both sidesism is how nazis gain acceptance

    • @willjames5243
      @willjames5243 14 днів тому +2

      Reform drastic reform is the only way

  • @MrSpock002
    @MrSpock002 13 днів тому +7

    The Sherriff in Tampa did a GREAT job of making it clear to ALL criminals that we don't protect criminals - we protect potential victims!! BIG difference...

  • @tracygates9728
    @tracygates9728 14 днів тому +9

    Remember that Perot said that he and his family was threatened by POTUS George Bush Sr. via a phone call is the reason he got out of the race.

    • @Limitless1717
      @Limitless1717 13 днів тому

      No surprise there. 911 was an inside job, and Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld the orchestrators.

  • @Zt3v3
    @Zt3v3 14 днів тому +62

    I don't expect the president to have a firm opinion on everything, I think it's a strength to modify your position when you get new information. I think it's a weakness to be unwilling to change your view "because you've thought about it already".

    • @Altysha8
      @Altysha8 14 днів тому +4

      Exactly! Its not a weakness, its a common sense! This guy is a joke!

    • @OkTxSheepLady
      @OkTxSheepLady 14 днів тому +5

      I think the point is that someone in high policy making position should have already understood first principles of the situation and already looked at all possible outcomes. Only if truly new developments change the first principles should the person “in charge” re-examine their conclusions.

    • @jerrycoplen8658
      @jerrycoplen8658 12 днів тому

      Except the current guy only changes his opinion when it’s needed to win a few votes. If you’ll look at his track record over the past 50 years, you’ll see he’s one of the most dishonest politicians on our history. I witnessed it first hand in the 1988 presidential election but it goes back much farther. At this stage in life he’s being told what his opinion is by his “team”.

  • @robkane5780
    @robkane5780 11 днів тому +26

    I am absolutely amazed how Tom can’t grasp just the economic toll of adding millions and millions of people to social security, welfare, and the economic systems in our nation that illegal immigration has done. Housing shortage? 20M less people would help that. Minimum wage? Free markets would dictate a fair livable wage. Inflation? More people is more people spending money here. More competition for the same resources causes prices to rise. For such an insightful guy he hasn’t taken 1 moment to think sheer economics of illegal immigration.

    • @michaelmarshall5438
      @michaelmarshall5438 11 днів тому +4

      More concerned with ai/robots taking jobs. Remember the great depression made it to 25% unemployment. I can easily see that number coming soon.

    • @alan2102X
      @alan2102X 11 днів тому

      @@michaelmarshall5438 50% coming soon. Then 75%. Look up and read the RethinkX report titled "This time we are the horses", re robotic disruption of labor.

    • @susanegittins6258
      @susanegittins6258 11 днів тому +1

      ​@michaelmarshall5438 I think he's playing uninformed...probably how he keeps the discussion going...?

    • @spacecowboy9212
      @spacecowboy9212 11 днів тому +3

      When you think you know more about the economy than Tom😂. If there was money to fund the security system He would of said something. Unfortunately that's not the case. He knows. In 2033 social security will go bankrupt. Don't blame illegals. blame your politicians for all these wars, money printing and continuous spending. I'm amazed of how ignorant we can all be thanks to hate and discrimination. Much love from ny❤.

    • @alan2102X
      @alan2102X 11 днів тому +2

      @@spacecowboy9212 It is VERY easy to head off the depletion of the SS fund, simply by extending (upward) the level of income exposed to SS tax. This is well known and not controversial, though never mentioned by deficit hawks and right-wing slimebags.

  • @basssanchezclassicalconver1709
    @basssanchezclassicalconver1709 14 днів тому +36

    comming around on an issue isnt weakness it is great moral strength and the ablility to lead with wisdom and discernment

    • @hexthehardcorecasual
      @hexthehardcorecasual 14 днів тому +2

      It depends on the issue, of course.

    • @retbeart
      @retbeart 13 днів тому +1

      He was referring to the weakness of his position on AA, not a personal weakness.

  • @dasfahrer8187
    @dasfahrer8187 14 днів тому +23

    lol Dave apparently had a LOT of caffeine before this interview.

  • @user-pl3lo8cc8y
    @user-pl3lo8cc8y 14 днів тому +113

    this conversation is begging for a third person to provide an alternative viewpoint

    • @videosabia
      @videosabia 13 днів тому +3

      Seriously!

    • @ericid
      @ericid 13 днів тому +4

      Yes you are right. They are very shallow in discussions, never travel widely and talk about other countries.

    • @vejay369
      @vejay369 13 днів тому +2

      But they couldn't find a person smart enough to represent that viewpoint... hence

    • @Limitless1717
      @Limitless1717 13 днів тому +11

      Bingo. So painful to listen to this one.

    • @vejay369
      @vejay369 13 днів тому +9

      ​@@Limitless1717 Imagine thinking a conversation is more painful to listen to than high gas/food prices and WW3

  • @miken.1717
    @miken.1717 14 днів тому +19

    That night was the equivalent of being caught with a chocolate covered face by your mom and her asking you did your eat her cookies .. the media couldn't hide their blatant lies because reality was on full view for the world to see. The emperor had no clothes

    • @kimski1875
      @kimski1875 12 днів тому +1

      @miken.1717 LOL too true! Thankfully I watched the real debate and was able to hear at least one candidate discuss the issues. Listening to Trump and Biden reminded me of when my son's were little...like catching them both standing next to a broken lamp...each blaming the other without taking any responsibility for the fact they were both playing catch in the house.

  • @MeMe-lm9bm
    @MeMe-lm9bm 14 днів тому +28

    why is the choice Biden/Trump???????

    • @StayCalmStayFocused
      @StayCalmStayFocused 14 днів тому

      No, the choice is Facism or continued Democracy. Vote Trump = Destruction of American Democracy.

    • @Mastermindyoung14
      @Mastermindyoung14 14 днів тому

      It's NOT.
      RFK is CLEARLY a better option. He's literally been on this show recently. Watch and share. I DON'T want Biden or Trump; I WANT Kennedy.
      I consider myself very scientifically literate, and I've listened to him for hours, and his integrity is impressive. Everyone smearing him with brain worm and anti-vaxx genuinely haven't investigated him sincerely.

    • @leftfinned
      @leftfinned 14 днів тому +11

      it’s not! Kennedy /Shannahan 2024! Seriously! We declare our independence!

    • @digit861
      @digit861 14 днів тому

      Have you not been paying attention for the last four years? Sky will turn red before independent wins. 5 have won in American history. It's not about who you personally want anymore it's about picking a side at this point sadly

    • @synewparadigm
      @synewparadigm 14 днів тому +1

      The elite decision.

  • @PorkChopAChunky
    @PorkChopAChunky 14 днів тому +3

    Tom has a naivete and ideology only wealth can purchase. It's easy to have a big heart when you're insulated from its consequences. Not hating on you being rich, just pointing out the bad ideas that often come with it.

  • @bigbama3311
    @bigbama3311 14 днів тому +29

    Nobody wants to here the opposition side they only wanna hear what they wanna hear and believe that. Thats a huge problem going on today and its sad

    • @notgunnadoit7461
      @notgunnadoit7461 14 днів тому +4

      what if I cannot stand the two party system and don't respect either side? I listen to all points of view that don't mention jewish space lasers.

    • @ElementalDivinity
      @ElementalDivinity 13 днів тому

      4 days ago Putin put Nuclear Subs in Cuba Waters. Read the room!

    • @Anthony-ds6vl
      @Anthony-ds6vl 13 днів тому +1

      The problem is that not enough ppl aren't calling out the duopoly.

    • @bigbama3311
      @bigbama3311 13 днів тому

      @@notgunnadoit7461 that's when you have to find/create a solution and act on it

    • @bigbama3311
      @bigbama3311 13 днів тому

      @@Anthony-ds6vl please explain

  • @juderaymond2289
    @juderaymond2289 10 днів тому +2

    Democracy does not equal capitalism.

  • @barbaraatkinson2204
    @barbaraatkinson2204 14 днів тому +33

    Feelings have nothing to do with law and order, without law and order you cannot find unity

    • @Aaronbtc4
      @Aaronbtc4 14 днів тому +2

      Well maybe you can't, don't speak for anyone else .

    • @barbaraatkinson2204
      @barbaraatkinson2204 14 днів тому +2

      @@Aaronbtc4 how’s it working?

    • @neonnoir9692
      @neonnoir9692 13 днів тому +4

      Shared values and respect for the law are essential. For any civilization.

  • @cesarvaldesalaez5589
    @cesarvaldesalaez5589 14 днів тому +3

    Tom please interview me. I am Cuban and I can give you a very genuine point of view from an emigrant who have being living for 8 years in this country. By the way my English is not too good😅

  • @MrWolfWinston
    @MrWolfWinston 12 днів тому +2

    Tom: The fault with steel manning this is that you are advocating for reasonable to reason with unreasonable. Understanding unreasonable’s point of view does not move us closer to solution, it only advances the position of those unreasonable because it simply wastes time and energy of the reasonable.

  • @IJustPostWorkOuts
    @IJustPostWorkOuts 13 днів тому +15

    Dave Rubin was completely right about the home invasion turn into man gettin shot 48:00

  • @zainhashmi5292
    @zainhashmi5292 14 днів тому +18

    3 hours of Dave Rubin ?? 😂😂😂

    • @firefly9838
      @firefly9838 14 днів тому

      With the IQ and personality of a golden retriever its not going to be very intellectually stimulating...

    • @Somethingiswrngwthu
      @Somethingiswrngwthu 13 днів тому +1

      Hell yeah. On my second watch through

    • @dianetrue2396
      @dianetrue2396 13 днів тому +1

      Rubin has turned out to be a very good podcaster.

    • @Limitless1717
      @Limitless1717 13 днів тому +9

      I couldn’t stomach any more than 10 minutes of Dave Rubin

    • @willd.8040
      @willd.8040 13 днів тому

      This guy is part of the problem. He twists things to fit his narrative and has no objectivity. So many lies.

  • @TopShelfTheology
    @TopShelfTheology 4 дні тому

    I still can't get over how much healthier and confident Dave looks now red pilled in FL, compared to how he looked when he was blue pilled in CA. What an improvement, so happy for him!

  • @brandonsander803
    @brandonsander803 14 днів тому +6

    Being able to process new information or information being presented in a new way, consider it and possibly have it change your mind is a strength not a weakness. Nobody knows everything and it’s possible you presented the information in a way he hadn’t thought or heard before or if he had he wasn’t able accept it at that time.

    • @neglectfulsausage7689
      @neglectfulsausage7689 13 днів тому

      Id ask Tom this: If you have 1 million arabs move into cherokee land and all the cherokee died off or moved out, is that still a cherokee nation because they keep the name and pretend to be it? Europeans built the U.S. It is a European state. The same group of people who say "defend ethnostate palestine" think that we should destroy everything that is based on European culture and values in USA while also mass importing people from other regions, e.g. people with NO past and no connection or desire to maintain the thing built by the "enemy ethnic group". This is war.

  • @elizabethcarrera9626
    @elizabethcarrera9626 14 днів тому +4

    "VALUES & MORALS!" Great explanation Tom.

  • @dillondavis3637
    @dillondavis3637 13 днів тому +26

    For the love.. please do another podcast with Dave. This was so great and in depth. Finally get to hear a back and forth in the nitty gritty of actual plans to fix things. The exchange of ideas is just so nice to listen to for once.

  • @Ryan-fy8bx
    @Ryan-fy8bx 6 днів тому +1

    FL ranks 22 out of the states for largest percentage of state residents that are homeless. Hardly the best or worse, just middle of the pack. Some of what he spews out is slightly off but not all of it.Be careful with some of these figures. Tom doesn't question a lot of the comments the speakers are making.

  • @SonyaElaine
    @SonyaElaine 13 днів тому +1

    Gosh, everyone loves the Germans today… Oktoberfest 🍻🙌

  • @rickhaller3328
    @rickhaller3328 13 днів тому +3

    The call at 3AM, missiles are inbound in 5 minutes, what do you want to do Mr President ?

    • @Limitless1717
      @Limitless1717 13 днів тому +1

      I want a bright orange narcissist!

    • @derosa1989
      @derosa1989 13 днів тому

      If the missiles are coming, we're all dead anyway, so who cares.

    • @effexon
      @effexon 13 днів тому

      if that is bunch of dumb missiles(ICBM grade, same as north korea uses, so same as nukes but without nuclear part) from Iran, they dont have to wake him up?

    • @velvetfaerie
      @velvetfaerie 13 днів тому +2

      Ice cream

    • @alexcwagner
      @alexcwagner 13 днів тому +3

      If the missiles are already inbound, we're all fucked no matter what he decides. It's more important that we have a president who won't be the one to start it.

  • @johnatchason6506
    @johnatchason6506 9 днів тому

    If your house goes up in value after living in it for a year and doing ZERO renovations, then the economy is broken. Think about it, why doesn't your car do that after you put 10,000 miles on it?

  • @bot_meditation5587
    @bot_meditation5587 14 днів тому +2

    I don’t understand what’s confusing about two different campaigns, hello ? Once it’s promoting ‘we the people’ and the other one ‘let’s make America great again ‘ - of course it does create bias, and not everything it’s perfect, but actually what it creates it’s more divisions

    • @SethBergile
      @SethBergile 11 днів тому

      We the people? If that was Biden campaign you would close the border! Nothing else says “my victory is worth more than this country” than opening the border on day one! The left has lost its way. Sad but true.

  • @johnbuckner2828
    @johnbuckner2828 14 днів тому +3

    1:31:26 Black Oompa Loompa engineers😂
    Hey as long as they innovate some cool shit I am good with that too

  • @donnysandley4649
    @donnysandley4649 13 днів тому +5

    WOW!!!!!!! What a fantastic podcast ❤

  • @michaelbecktel4160
    @michaelbecktel4160 14 днів тому +1

    Dave’s whole transformation from left to right began when he was willing to have his mind changed, in a now infamous moment with Larry Elder. It’s sad and misguided to see him now fault RFK for being willing to do the same…

    • @thomasj7506
      @thomasj7506 14 днів тому

      Because he never changed his mind. He had no opinions, thought the middle path classical lib grift was the way to go. Then he got embarrassed and was forced to adopt a a new grift model- gay, married right winger.
      Once the zeitgeist shifts, he'll "change his mind" again.

  • @jaythay4716
    @jaythay4716 13 днів тому +5

    Ok heres the solution to the border crisis: for those who still believe we should keep the border open allowing the illegal immigrants come pouring in w/o the due process, please move to the santuary city and live there right next to them, especially those with family. After living there for some time, ask your wife daughter neighbors and those homeless vets if its ok to keep the border open.

  • @RubenCLeon
    @RubenCLeon 14 днів тому +19

    Who will have the keys to the nuclear football at 3 AM?
    Jill Biden, Kamala or some unnamed staff member?

    • @bradleyporterfield747
      @bradleyporterfield747 14 днів тому

      It's the least of my worries

    • @Adrian-yi8fl
      @Adrian-yi8fl 14 днів тому +5

      Hunter. He'll definitely be awake 😂😂😂😅

    • @JohnRefKennedy
      @JohnRefKennedy 14 днів тому +2

      @@Adrian-yi8flfunny, NOT FUNNY 😢

    • @Jaynick1977
      @Jaynick1977 13 днів тому +2

      ​@bradleyporterfield747 it shouldn't be. With the threats of nuclear action from Russia, we need to be prepared for such a possibility. As horrible as that possibility is

    • @BrianManning-wh6rl
      @BrianManning-wh6rl 13 днів тому +1

      At this point, we will never know the answer to that question.

  • @TheYouTubez
    @TheYouTubez 14 днів тому +54

    The ugly dichotomy of rich people loving money and wanting to keep it and hating illegal immigration but loving to pay under the table because they hate taxes... it must be SO STRESSFULL to be rich!!!

    • @BrianManning-wh6rl
      @BrianManning-wh6rl 13 днів тому +2

      And here you are watching rich peoples channels.

    • @TheYouTubez
      @TheYouTubez 13 днів тому +2

      To educate myself Brian. As opposed to your purported argument to have us all stick our heads in the sand and just take it. But thanks for your eloquent insight...

    • @inpersonaDK
      @inpersonaDK 13 днів тому +1

      Rich people don’t hate illegal immigration since it is in the their favor. However the lower paid job segment should be seriously concerned and worried with their jobs. Beside any uncontrollable immigration of foreigners will change the existing culture and values.

    • @retbeart
      @retbeart 13 днів тому

      The even uglier dichotomy of open border advocates who also think they give a $hit about America’s working class.

    • @fontanic1
      @fontanic1 12 днів тому

      Illegal immigration, especially at these numbers, is not good for anyone in this country. Though they may help elect more democrats, everyone will eventually (if not already) be affected negatively. If we have no common language, we can’t communication effectively in society. If we don’t follow one law, we have no society.

  • @user-el5oz2gs3v
    @user-el5oz2gs3v 11 днів тому +1

    News Flash Tom, not just Japan,, but most Asian countries are the same. Thailand, China, Vietnam,,, their people first - in everything!
    You are a guest - period !

  • @Alexa4Grace
    @Alexa4Grace 14 днів тому +1

    Please do that episode to "hold yourself accountable". Very important! Which includes the genocide of Native Americans.

  • @JG-qt3pn
    @JG-qt3pn 14 днів тому +2

    Orange man good. Liberals bad. Kool-Aid please.

  • @chucks8927
    @chucks8927 14 днів тому +12

    Conservative bias, but it's good to hear both sides

    • @hexthehardcorecasual
      @hexthehardcorecasual 14 днів тому +7

      Everyone has a bias. Do you point out liberal bias in the same way, then say it's good to hear both sides?

    • @chucks8927
      @chucks8927 14 днів тому +4

      @hexthehardcorecasual of course I do, bias is bias! The point is that it has a bias, and you need to be able to recognise it.

    • @sunnyla2835
      @sunnyla2835 14 днів тому +7

      Dave used to be a lib, like many of us who are now awake, not woke

    • @kimski1875
      @kimski1875 13 днів тому +3

      ​@@sunnyla2835Moving from the left to the right doesn't mean you're awake it just means you rolled over in your sleep.

    • @antediluvian_seance
      @antediluvian_seance 12 днів тому

      Reality has a bias against unreality, propaganda and Democrat lies.

  • @user-wg9tl6jh5g
    @user-wg9tl6jh5g 13 днів тому +6

    Tom. I listen to a bunch of UA-camrs and podcasters, you are by far the best interviewer.

  • @BBshark000
    @BBshark000 13 днів тому

    Imagine being so American that someone can be incredibly bipartisan and think they are smart 😂

  • @juderaymond2289
    @juderaymond2289 10 днів тому +1

    How about not exporting democracy ? Political culture is downstream from ?

  • @dead_and_devine1505
    @dead_and_devine1505 14 днів тому +19

    This guy is pretending like Trump isn't also in a cognitive decline. We need a fucking younger option.

    • @christophermd216
      @christophermd216 13 днів тому +2

      WTF are you even talking about

    • @Ryan-fy8bx
      @Ryan-fy8bx 11 днів тому +1

      @@christophermd216 He argues with CNN while he watches tv at night. Who argues out loud with a television. Biden might not be a great option but this dude is losing it too. Can we at least have someone in their 60s. How are these guys considered the best candidates, our population is well over 300 million.

    • @Blueskies1180
      @Blueskies1180 11 днів тому

      Have you even heard them both talk next to each other??? WTF are you talking about? 😂😂😂

  • @petalumatube
    @petalumatube 14 днів тому +4

    Dave just taking the wheel

    • @StaticSilence1
      @StaticSilence1 14 днів тому

      Yeah. I noticed that too. So much for a conversation.

  • @lorenzowashington5546
    @lorenzowashington5546 11 днів тому

    Tom you easily give some of the best interviews in America. No matter who your guest is if they say something you disagree with you let them no immediately! Love it dude.

  • @melissam5482
    @melissam5482 13 днів тому

    Tom, please don’t let Dave discourage you from supporting RFK. There are millions of people that feel exactly like you do and growing by the day. Dave says that something catastrophic must happen before the 2 party system can change. Did he forget about COVID?!? This experience woke up a lot of people. Vote for the best man for the job, period.

  • @lukebonilla1076
    @lukebonilla1076 14 днів тому +6

    RFK 2024!!! RFK being able to admit when he is wrong or able to see another persons perspective isn't a weakness. It's his biggest strength.

    • @dianetrue2396
      @dianetrue2396 13 днів тому

      I like him but his vp pick is a no go for me.

    • @melissam5482
      @melissam5482 13 днів тому

      @@dianetrue2396Have you listened to her speak or are you basing your opinion on things you have heard about her? Honest question.

    • @Drew-sy2bn
      @Drew-sy2bn 13 днів тому

      Actually I haven't really heard him talk about too many policies. I have no idea how you would be economically or geopolitically all he talks about is how the pharmaceutical industry is cheating all of us and I agree with them on that and I think that that's good that he wants to go after some of these corrupt big businesses but other than that I don't know where he really stands I know he's anti-vax which I agree with but other than that I don't think he'd be such a great strong leader I mean he's going to be better than Biden but not by much because he is a liberal and he was a Democrat so I have a feeling people are going to be surprised by his policies if he did become the president and thank God I don't think he will

  • @pippadora
    @pippadora 13 днів тому +4

    This was THE best, most informative debate on all major issues at the moment I have listened to. Thank you Tom. You are an incredible human being❤

  • @queloque26
    @queloque26 13 днів тому +2

    Amazing conversation thank you Tom 🙏

  • @stevenchapman5810
    @stevenchapman5810 13 днів тому +1

    I agree the binary choice is like Coca-Cola and Pepsi. I don't drink either one.

  • @helsbels2582
    @helsbels2582 11 днів тому +9

    You get tough on crime, the crime rate goes down. Simple. People will think twice if it’s not a free for all. Love Dave Rubin take on everything!!! He is 100% right!!!

    • @Limitless1717
      @Limitless1717 10 днів тому

      @@helsbels2582 Wrong. Punishment is not a deterrent. This myth has been disproven over and over again.

    • @gps9715
      @gps9715 8 днів тому

      @@Limitless1717 Moe. Ron.

    • @markaja2
      @markaja2 2 дні тому

      @@Limitless1717Go visit a country in the midst of a civil war with roaming bands of rebels. Then tell me how incidences of violent crimes that happen under lawlessness are just as frequent.
      If there are stats that support that crime rate didn’t go up recently in California then it’s because they just stopped reporting the crimes.

    • @markaja2
      @markaja2 2 дні тому

      I agree with a majority of what he’s saying in this interview. He’s a little farther from center on his own show, though. However, the way he said black midget lesbians is repulsive. He dug himself a hole to dig out of with that one.

  • @plurtwink
    @plurtwink 14 днів тому +18

    How about talk about project 2025

  • @ninjamuffin289
    @ninjamuffin289 6 днів тому

    Biden reminds me of Theoden before Gandalf saved him from Saruman's curse

  • @MrSpock002
    @MrSpock002 13 днів тому

    I never thought I was going to have to depend on the common sense and sanity of Putin INSTEAD of the US President in averting nuclear war - BUT - Here we are!!!

  • @rjmatson3349
    @rjmatson3349 13 днів тому +5

    Thank you, Sir Tom! The information delivered in this episode really brought together what I have been thinking 🤔. Good interview 😊

  • @wakeupus7
    @wakeupus7 14 днів тому +11

    Being anti-fascist doesn't mean you're a thug.

    • @TheGoorru
      @TheGoorru 14 днів тому

      Antifa is a group of thugs. They are not simply anti-fascist. But you know this

    • @ashfield1425
      @ashfield1425 14 днів тому +4

      Currently the most vocal anti-fascists are in fact fascists.

    • @wakeupus7
      @wakeupus7 14 днів тому

      @@ashfield1425 I assure you, I am not. But I hear you.

    • @ashfield1425
      @ashfield1425 14 днів тому

      @@wakeupus7 Oh. I wasn’t suggesting you! I am referring to those who want to censor speech they don’t like (not illegal speech, just speech they don’t want to hear), outwardly trying to cancel people. burning the place down because there is a decision they don’t like. Those people. Their behaviour is reminiscent of the Brown Shirts.

    • @sunnyla2835
      @sunnyla2835 14 днів тому

      Antifa are thugs!

  • @samantacastilho5656
    @samantacastilho5656 12 днів тому +1

    Great interview, Dave and Tome! 🙌🙏👏 It was an absolute pleasure listening to your exchange of ideas!

  • @jackdelagrange1519
    @jackdelagrange1519 5 днів тому

    We paid into social security. No one receiving welfare paid into welfare. They are not the same.

  • @nasimdanielhaq3639
    @nasimdanielhaq3639 14 днів тому +10

    Super low mortgage rates for too long are one of the causes of the higher rates we have now. You can’t leave rates that historically low for so long. Economics 101.

    • @Biffer28
      @Biffer28 14 днів тому

      Exactly, saying Biden caused inflation is so wrong, it was years in the making due to very low interest rates to stimulate the economy after the great recession of 2008 and then the absurd stimulus of money given out during Covid that lit the inflation flame. I hate when politicians blame each other for something the other person has no control over.

    • @atheplummer
      @atheplummer 14 днів тому

      @@Biffer28 All aggregate inflation is a direct result of the amount of currency available. Govt. printing is a large part of this problem. Is it Biden's fault? Not any more his fault than the rest of congress voting for borrowing more currency.
      But this isn't the only way currency gets created. Any person/business that goes to a bank and seeks a loan is also creating currency through the fractional reserve banking principals. So, anyone who's in debt to a bank, should look in the mirror and recognize that they are part of the problem too.

    • @sunnyla2835
      @sunnyla2835 14 днів тому +5

      The Fed is responsible to trying to control the economy. Let the markets take over

    • @neonnoir9692
      @neonnoir9692 13 днів тому +2

      You can actually, as long as there's enough supply. The issue is too much money in the economy, too much free money.

  • @OkTxSheepLady
    @OkTxSheepLady 14 днів тому +7

    Very fine people on both sides OF WHAT QUESTION? Of the question to remove statues or not! That was the question Trump was addressing.

    • @sunnyla2835
      @sunnyla2835 14 днів тому

      And lyin Biden is STILL lying about it! Russiagate, too

  • @upgrade1015
    @upgrade1015 12 днів тому +1

    1:48:02 “pride of culture “ they make everything in that realm seem racist when it’s not ! We can’t even have a word for it . Wild.

  • @gpotrebic
    @gpotrebic 8 днів тому

    The best explanation of how printing money devalues the dollar causes inflation for majority of regular people and at the same time benefits only few people...
    Watch from 30:57 to 34:00... Excellent conversation in general.

  • @jenfeler
    @jenfeler 14 днів тому +3

    Why don't you interview a historian about Trump? And, then let's see what people think of him after.

    • @christophermd216
      @christophermd216 13 днів тому

      Are you trying to use one of bubbling Bidens talking points lol biased little academics looking at a time where truth was hidden from the people. Yeah they got it figured out lol.. at the end of the day it's "them" not "him" that's the problem

    • @jess2770
      @jess2770 13 днів тому

      Interview Sarah Kendzior

    • @Blueskies1180
      @Blueskies1180 11 днів тому

      Doesn’t matter, you can sit here and argue about who did worse things than the other, what matters is who runs the country better!!!!!!! SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!
      Pick the lesser of two evils!
      No one is perfect, but I would vote for Trump over Biden any day. The country was a thousand times better when Trump ran it, no matter how emotional you feel about him personally.
      I don’t like some of
      Trumps behaviour etc but again, he KOWS how to run the country a lot better than the Dems.

    • @jenfeler
      @jenfeler 11 днів тому

      @@Blueskies1180 I don't even know where to begin with this statement. We are not discussing that. We are talking about Trump and his convictions.
      He raped a 13 year old, how could you support that, unless you agree with Raping children?
      Do not say it's false. It's not, you are being lied to.
      As a historian I get to help write the history books, and all of us, we will be telling the truth.
      Do you really want to be on that side of history?

    • @jenfeler
      @jenfeler 11 днів тому

      @@Blueskies1180 I will also be writing how for months as Covid was full blown in China for months, and not one word from our President. Nothing.
      Look at the records. The world knew about Covid for months before was ever "heard" of in our country.
      I had been reading the news like our President should have for months wondering why he wasn't even talking about it.
      He is the worst President in history, I promise that is what all historians will be saying, I promise.
      You are on the wrong side of history darling.

  • @dustinunnerstall5314
    @dustinunnerstall5314 14 днів тому +30

    Remind me which party refused the peaceful transfer of power and led a violent insurrection on the capital?

    • @danielj8177
      @danielj8177 14 днів тому

      Tell me you don’t know what violence is without telling me you don’t know what violence is. First insurrection ever where the only people armed were the federal agents that infiltrated it.

    • @batcountry6867
      @batcountry6867 14 днів тому +6

      Right?!
      Old guy or other old guy who is psychopathic narcissist and will use the levers of power to hurt people and enrich himself

    • @christophermd216
      @christophermd216 13 днів тому +2

      Contested it and wilfully creating a movement to overthrow it is quite different, you're still leaving in an illusion and emotions.. Not reality!! ..Good luck

    • @dianetrue2396
      @dianetrue2396 13 днів тому +7

      Oh dear. Please do some real research and watch the videos. It was a set up

    • @Tierneil
      @Tierneil 13 днів тому +1

      It was a mostly peaceful protest

  • @allenferry9632
    @allenferry9632 12 днів тому

    I lived in California for 50 years and most of that time they said there was 11 million illegals in the USA. That would mean for at least 35 years everytime someone snuck in 1 left. Thats not likely. My family was deported in the 40's back to Canada including my brother who was born in NYC. My parents were told your illegal, he's illegal. When they came back legally all the kids had to get a green card to work.

  • @karlarcher8773
    @karlarcher8773 12 днів тому

    There is a big difference between a 'puritan' mindset of you are on your own and having a big government providing a safety net for illegal migrants. It is not the same thing at all.

  • @ExpertAdviceTV
    @ExpertAdviceTV 14 днів тому +43

    I would vote for a fence post over Donald Trump

    • @williamtuite1120
      @williamtuite1120 14 днів тому

      Most willfully ignorant fools would.

    • @jefffeathers9116
      @jefffeathers9116 14 днів тому +8

      so your voting biden then

    • @Amandapanda11144
      @Amandapanda11144 14 днів тому +4

      Replace trump with Biden*

    • @ExpertAdviceTV
      @ExpertAdviceTV 14 днів тому

      @@jefffeathers9116
      Yes, or any other clodpoll the Dems prop up if Biden steps down.

    • @johnbuckner2828
      @johnbuckner2828 14 днів тому +4

      On the Colbert show, they are voting for cabbages over DJT…Nice to know some of you are branching out.

  • @cesarvaldesalaez5589
    @cesarvaldesalaez5589 14 днів тому +9

    thanks for bringing this guest!!!

  • @MrSpock002
    @MrSpock002 13 днів тому

    I have NO sympathy for ANYONE that chooses power over service!!! And we should not either - we should demand MORE from those WE CHOOSE to represent us!!!

  • @jasondeardorff
    @jasondeardorff 13 днів тому

    Cause that's the way forward... "Everyone who doesn't agree with me is an idiot."

  • @stephanieanderson8494
    @stephanieanderson8494 14 днів тому +37

    With each sentence this guy says, I’ve wasted precious time.

  • @michaelronneseth801
    @michaelronneseth801 14 днів тому +29

    It's insane to me that most of the population isn't solidly voting RFK. EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEWER says the same thing, he's deeply patriotic, logical, likeable and of great integrity. He's also highly successful and more intelligent than Trump and Biden combined. In this case, he also is far less divisive and would be more palatable to either side if they had to choose.

    • @joannerainey600
      @joannerainey600 14 днів тому +7

      This is why I won’t vote for RFK, even though I think he’s the most presidential…we CANNOT have four more years of Biden. RFK ends up being a lost vote. So Trump is my logical choice, even if he’s not my first choice. It’s our screwed up two party system. 😢 RFK cannot win, it’s stacked against independents.

    • @thomasj7506
      @thomasj7506 14 днів тому

      Because the right and left wing propagandists, both mainstream and "alternative" are doing everything to throw any alternative candidates under the bus

    • @christophermd216
      @christophermd216 14 днів тому +2

      It's only insane if you don't acknowledge basic human nature and the machine that's propping up the establishment and is against any outsider. If you totally ignore that I suppose you would be shocked and think it's insane lol

    • @sookibeulah9331
      @sookibeulah9331 13 днів тому +8

      @@joannerainey600PLEASE remain flexible on that decision about not voting for RFK Jr.
      if enough hold the faith he could break the 2 party system.
      It’s unlikely Biden will win following that debate and he won’t be any better in next debate.

    • @joannerainey600
      @joannerainey600 13 днів тому

      @@sookibeulah9331 we do have 4 more months and you know crazy things are going to happen for sure! But God help us if Biden or another democrat gets in again!

  • @whistlingwind5900
    @whistlingwind5900 13 днів тому

    It is dishonest to suggest that wars are the great expense our government pays for. If we truly want to resolve the debt and balance the budget every year, what very much needs to be discussed over and over again is social security and medicare. I've heard John Cogan speak on this, but almost no one does in any real depth.

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 13 днів тому +1

    Let the other person talk Dave , it's important ... and it is good for you , along with all of us , thanks ...

  • @richarddonald-gc9rb
    @richarddonald-gc9rb 12 днів тому +1

    Since we're keeping a close eye on increasing tensions in Ukraine n the Middle East, what about ways to diversify our investments and reduce the potential impact. I have 100k set aside to put into the markets just skeptical where to allocate them.

    • @kendavies8351
      @kendavies8351 12 днів тому +1

      Given the uncertainty, one could incorporate safe-haven assets. Going long on U.S. defense stocks like Lockheed, Raytheon and Northrop Grumman could be a solid option, considering the geopolitical landscape.

    • @TonyRiley-qb7sw
      @TonyRiley-qb7sw 12 днів тому +1

      I agree. Defense stocks do well in times of geopolitical instability, as long as there's no financial fraud. Defense ETFs help spread risk by investing in different companies in the sector.

    • @karenwilliams9653
      @karenwilliams9653 12 днів тому +1

      While defense stocks and ETFs are smart choices, don’t forget about the historical role of gold during uncertain times. Its value tends to rise as a hedge against geopolitical risks. How about allocating a portion of the potfolio to gold?

    • @AlwaysSeekingTruth13
      @AlwaysSeekingTruth13 11 днів тому +1

      AI

  • @TheYouTubez
    @TheYouTubez 14 днів тому +3

    BINGO. Tom just nailed what it going on. It is an ultimate game of how I manufacture value to do what it is I want or choose to do. It is the essence of humanity

  • @Joseph-xt2qg
    @Joseph-xt2qg 11 днів тому +1

    One thing I feel gets ignored frequently is why Israelis had any right to go into those lands in the first place. From my brief research into history, it appears that England basically tricked the locals into accepting them around WW1 timeframe, but it seems it was definitely not the Holocaust that caused them to show up there

    • @aseelnuman
      @aseelnuman 9 днів тому

      🙌🏼

    • @pamela8644
      @pamela8644 21 годину тому

      Go back further in history. And check prophecy… your eyes will be opened to today’s happenings. It is their land

    • @Joseph-xt2qg
      @Joseph-xt2qg 16 годин тому

      @@pamela8644 you mean like the time they crossed the river, entering the land of Canaan and decimating numerous kingdoms, killing ALL people and living creatures in them?
      What's the term for killing an entire population? It makes me sick to think about it.
      Have modern Jews condemned these unspeakably horrific acts that are part of their scriptures?
      From their perspective, "Yahweh" told them to do it. From the perspective of anyone who survived their conquest of terror, they were true devils, destroying everyone in their path.
      On a side note, why are we all okay with people like Saul and David (and many others) with all their wives and concubines? I know that these were different times with different standards, but don't we know better today than to hold up people like that and study their words and actions as part of Scripture?

    • @Joseph-xt2qg
      @Joseph-xt2qg 40 хвилин тому

      Bottom line, I still don't see a reason why Israel should own that land. They basically just killed everybody who lived there and then took it...

  • @mbp5863
    @mbp5863 13 днів тому +1

    I find myself watching less and less of these podcasts the more extreme and pessimistic the headlines are.

  • @veronicaalta9462
    @veronicaalta9462 13 днів тому +24

    Love Rubin, this was a great conversation.

  • @WestPassage_0001
    @WestPassage_0001 14 днів тому +93

    The issue with Dave Rubin is that he wants to come off as a smart intellectual with valid ideas but everything he spoke about in this video was based off emotion, biased opinion, and just outright wrong facts. NOTHING he said about the economy was even remotely factual ("I see everything at the grocery store getting more expensive so it is definitely the presidents fault".... lol what?), EVERYTHING he said about Palestine was from emotion and biased opinion. He had very little knowledge of the reality of the political process and how policies work to change our system. He had ZERO clue about how interest rates and mortgages work.
    What was the point of this interview? To what purpose did it serve? There is nothing to walk away with here. There are no facts, no evidence, no new insights to work from and help us expand our worldview. I'm all for giving individuals with different opinions a platform if they come in with at least data, facts, and evidence to back their claims and opinions - but Dave Rubin is just a non-sympathetic, bigoted, ignorant man who acts like an intellectual but spews outright wrong opinions he claims as facts.
    Tom there is no insight to gain from these kind of guest. Please bring in people that can actually speak with facts, clarity, and evidence so at least we can all learn something.

    • @williamtuite1120
      @williamtuite1120 14 днів тому +14

      Submit empirical evidence to support your nonsensical claims.

    • @sebastiangutierrez1780
      @sebastiangutierrez1780 14 днів тому +11

      I don’t know why this comment isn’t at the top. Tom has been interviewing a ton of anti-intellectuals and is excluding other seasoned academics and intellectuals who don’t happen to have a huge corporate backing. I don’t get why his channel is taking a nosedive on this

    • @CleanPowerAuto
      @CleanPowerAuto 14 днів тому

      Because we need to know what populism looks like, Rubin is a classical populist, he’ll tell everyone exactly what they want to hear and keep quiet about real issues which need solving, but have no quick sound bite solution. There is no depth to populism, you elect loud mouth with no substance. He is just young version of Trump.

    • @jerrycoplen8658
      @jerrycoplen8658 14 днів тому +16

      Your own bias is showing….

    • @marshabrink2613
      @marshabrink2613 14 днів тому

      So does this ding ding realize our president has nothing to do with inflation all over the world ? He sounds brainwashed. Kool aid consumption.

  • @Youknowwhoin2024
    @Youknowwhoin2024 12 днів тому

    The bat from *Fern Gully* has done a great job reinventing himself

  • @SamuelLewiswearthefund
    @SamuelLewiswearthefund 14 днів тому +2

    God Bless Dave, what an interview

  • @franktothemax
    @franktothemax 14 днів тому +7

    I always get pumped when I see a good conversation in my near future. Thank you for these conversations dude 🙏🏻

  • @josephotero9556
    @josephotero9556 14 днів тому +22

    Dave rubin wants to vote for rfk jr but he's afraid of losing his audience, so he just pretends Trump has adopted rfk Jr's stances.

    • @TOMReefer
      @TOMReefer 14 днів тому +4

      It is sad that they don’t mention RFKJR enough in big circles like this. It will be our lose.

    • @Danni6978
      @Danni6978 14 днів тому +1

      The problem with the vote for R.F.K is his choice of vice president. So it's a no for me

    • @elizabethtencer7950
      @elizabethtencer7950 14 днів тому +1

      What's wrong with her?

    • @dianetrue2396
      @dianetrue2396 13 днів тому +1

      ​@@Danni6978 I absolutely agree. What was he thinking?!

    • @smhollanshead
      @smhollanshead 13 днів тому +2

      Let’s hope Donald Trump adds RFK, Jr. to his administration.

  • @garycovington1439
    @garycovington1439 14 днів тому

    If Tom was truly as brilliant as he thinks he is, and everyone was as naive as he truly is, he could rule the world

  • @tomsabb6458
    @tomsabb6458 14 днів тому +7

    Tom, you are still too naive. But you make things too complex without really going through the real complex labyrinth of human existence and history

  • @orfeasnifakos1265
    @orfeasnifakos1265 14 днів тому +8

    Something that will never be said. Hey something important is going on , let's ask Dave Rubin about it.

  • @jysix
    @jysix 13 днів тому +1

    Facts over feeling. I hope this wakes up some people on the left, as it work up Thomas Sowell, Ronald Regen, Dave Rubin and so many others...

  • @bbates4496
    @bbates4496 10 днів тому

    Are the idiots in the room with us right now Dave?

  • @TOMReefer
    @TOMReefer 14 днів тому +4

    I guess if you’re voting Trump or Biden, you will never mention the person who “Should” be president. RFKJR. It’s sad. The worst is yet to come. Whether Trump or Biden.

    • @Drew-sy2bn
      @Drew-sy2bn 13 днів тому

      Because most of us who are conservative love Trump and we love his policies and we don't understand what RFK's policies are the only thing I've heard him say and I do agree with most of what he says is that he's going to go after the pharmaceutical companies and that's great they are scam artists and they are burning all of us and the medical industry is so screwed up here but I have no idea how he thinks on geopolitics or other stuff the fact that he was a Democrat before scares me because the current Democrat policies are insane and I don't know how radical he's going to be towards these types of policies So no I wouldn't vote for him Trump is our guy He's been president before he has a track record of success his policies were outstanding and our country was way better off and a world was way better off when he was president let's say we get JFK and he does a great job on the pharmaceuticals but we end up in World war 3 cuz he doesn't know how to handle situations like Trump does

  • @TRFAD
    @TRFAD 13 днів тому +5

    You guys laid this out brillianlty great job.

  • @gordontechreviews
    @gordontechreviews 11 днів тому +1

    Tom's already misrepresentation the argument. It's NOT about "unchecked immigration. It's about people coming here illegally and us doing nothing about it. Their VERY FIRST act coming here is to commit a crime. There is a "legal" process for people to become citizens so support and encourage that. As far as "asylum" goes, there is a very clear standard of what is considered reasons for seeking asylum and MANY of these people wouldn't qualify but we are just lumping them all in as asylum seekers but they aren't. Either tom doesn't understand all this or he's being nefarious with his misrepresentation ....

  • @tuanessence
    @tuanessence 12 днів тому

    First principle thinking- Dave said there’s only 2 party. Why? This is a democracy. There’s a 3rd viable candidate. If we want real change and get out of the big controlling phama/financial companies and special interest groups that don’t really care about the common people, vote for hope and America’s future. Vote RFK 2024!

  • @EWischan
    @EWischan 14 днів тому +21

    Dave Rubin? Seriously?

    • @Life_as_Game
      @Life_as_Game 14 днів тому +4

      He's such an unprincipled grifter 🤣🤣

  • @sammik3959
    @sammik3959 14 днів тому +6

    Tom is always about common sense. Thats why i listen his interviews

  • @danaknight1513
    @danaknight1513 12 днів тому

    Can you have a guest discuss " Project 2025"? Would this would be a threat to Democracy?

  •  13 днів тому +1

    Hey left leaning brothers listen to the other side without being triggered, its called maturity

    • @JohanJonasson
      @JohanJonasson 12 днів тому

      I prefer to listen to e.g. Ben Shapiro and Megyn Kelly. They seem more honest and grounded in their views than Dave does.

  • @videosabia
    @videosabia 13 днів тому +6

    Tom, how about bringing in a reasonable speaker to discuss this side of the argument? (as a centrist, I tried, but 15 minutes into this and just had to give up)