I messed up!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- The wheel fell off my car and caused some damage that I've been avoiding to talk about, until now.
The car is a 1966 Mustang Fastback with a factory V8 and T5 transmission.
Shot with GoPro Hero 9 with the Media Mod, edited on Davinci Resolve 17.
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Its a hard thing to do to admit your faults. Nice work owning up to it and helping others avoid it. This channel is nothing but quality. Thanks Andy
I appreciate that!
Glad to hear no one was hurt Andy. I would have never know that either until you pointed that out. When I worked at Supershops Automotive Performance Centers in the 1980's we always told customers to re-torque their wheels after a few miles, I never had any customers come back having their wheels come off, I also use Anti-Seize on the threads on all my cars.
Yeah, I got lucky that day. :)
Dude! We've all been there! It sucks but looks like now you can look back, understand how that happened, and figure out how to fix it. I'll be looking forward to quarter panel repair videos! I'm sure it feels good to get that off your chest too!
We learn best from our mistakes! Next time you're up here, you drive, I promise the wheels will be tight. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel you got a deal! I won't be scared to drive 🤣
Hello my friend, just saying hello! Take care.
Wow Andy, I hate to hear that. Mistakes happen, I’m glad it wasn’t any worse than it was and that you and your friend and the car is ok. Be safe brother.
Thanks brotha!
Great video sharing this issue. We all make mistakes building, restoring, and racing cars. I can’t even count the amount I’ve made!
It’s a good idea to get those fenders right the way you want it and it should be. Sounds like a great winter project!
Winter project for sure, now I've just gotta find the funds...... :)
@@AndyKruseChannel Funds are one thing, life is more important. It'll happen when you're ready, and when it does, you'll know it's correct. 👍
Thank you for sharing" It happened to me once on the freeway. Front right tire, I pulled over as soon as I heard the wobble, stoped retighten my bolts no issues lucky me 🙏
I wish I was that lucky, it definitely would have been cheaper. :)
Andy - thank you for the good advice, nice to watch your videos!
My pleasure!
No shame in that at all. I recently had a very similar experience but got even luckier than you. I had just finished putting the rear tires back on my ‘65 after rear seat belt install. Threw my boys in the car for a drive around the block and heard a ‘rub-rub-rub-rub’ noise from the rear. We immediately pulled over and the lugs had come loose. Thank god we caught the issue, but it was 100% my fault. I tightened them but didn’t TORQUE them. Called the wife and she brought be the torque wrench and we were good to go. Like you, I get very lucky and it taught me to slow down and be more careful. And now when I clean and paint my drums, I’ll be more aware of this as well. Cheers, Andy! Love your videos…
Thanks for the feedback!
I thought I cashed in all my karma that day, but maybe you beat on this one, I wish I was as lucky as you. :)
Been there buddy. It’s a blessing that this happened with quarter panels that already needed repair. It could have been a lot worse. You still have an awesome car.
Yeah, I cashed in all my chips that day. :)
Thank you for sharing your story with us, don't feel bad, 35 years later and my wife still reminds me on how I let her car down off the jack "Indy Style" without moving the jack stand far enough away thus crushing her rocker panel. (whoops!) We've all been there, please keep on posting!
The worse part is I could have put my friend in danger, but I'm happy it wasn't that bad. :)
Thanks Andy for your honesty, I went to see if my mustang I did the same thing good call.
Glad to help! :)
I feel your pain I got screwed by a local mustang man. After I got it home it was a rustang from front to back. Never the less Im bringing her back to life. Hang in there and fix it right. It will do nothing but up in value bro!ang in there and fix it right. It will do nothing but go up in value bro!
Yeah, it's crazy what these cars are worth. :)
Anything can be fixed. You were lucky. Good video. Good tip-of-the-day.
Thanks 👍
Years ago, I had a similar thing happen except that my wheel flew off. I was driving on a major highway with two lanes of traffic to my left and two to my right. I remember my daughter yelling that she could see our wheel come off. After pulling over, I searched for the tire but never found it Amazingly enough, it didn't hit another car and apart from replacing the wheel the only cost was replacing the lugs. Earlier in the day, I had checked the nuts with a torque wrench so I don't know what caused it. I do remember a weird sensation like you mentioned for a few minutes before the loss.
Yeah, this stuff can be scary, but thankfully no one was hurt. :)
That’s a shame a darn shame, I hope you get the repairs done soon it’s a very beautiful mustang. Once you get it fixed and behind you it will be just a bad memory.
Thanks! Looking back I wish I just would have either taken more pics and/or filmed something. I think it's a good lesson that I hope other don't make my same mistake. :)
I have been in automotive since 1978 to 1999. And I find this happens more with inexperienced and poorly trained people who mount your new tires. They do not adjust their impact wrench. And I bring a torque wrench set at 85lbs. They can run it up on a low setting, but they have to be torqued by hand. And I showed a manager by backing off a lug and it would still click instantly on 85 lbs. The used experience is also over torquing oil pan plug bolts and stripping them. I once was at an oil fast lube. A customer next to me had a Sunbeam Tiger. I heard the owner and the tech with a heated exchange. The tech had taken out the wrong bolt thinking it was the filler, and something went clunk from the shifting linkage. The tranmsmission had to be pulled. Also over torquing pressure plate bolts. Here is my rule of thumb. After a bolt or nut is loose with a boxed wrench, I only use 1/4 inch 6 point sockets, and that includes reassemble. Than anything that needs torquing is set per specs. After decades I feel the amount on bolts like bell housing, starter, things that don't rotate. Anything rotating is torqued. Sorry this happened. I worked for parts stores and a Ford dealership, auto machine shop, and custom car builder. I have seen seasoned mechanics put the lift arm wrong and crunch a whole front fender. And when we built customer cars, the first question was application of build, street, or track. I had a car once low like yours, till I took the pan off bottoming out on an old country road. I enjoy your videos. Here is a picture of my car. It is supposed to be a sleeper. facebook.com/photo?fbid=6881733938538051&set=a.683858844992289
Yeah, inexperience can be costly for the car owner.
Bro, you are the go to for anything I do. I always check your channel first to see if something I want to do is something you've already done. Things happen man. The fact that you have done so much to you car by yourself is awesome. We make a mistake, we learn, (most important) we share, we move on!
Well said. I’ve been sitting with a new 1’1/8 away bar, I’ve watched his install video many times. I think I can do it only because of his great video on it
Yeah, it can be tough getting past these scary events, but sharing the story in hopes others don't have that same problem is the main message. :)
Andy is one of my go to guys also. Alf's Mustang garage is my # 1 guy.
@@robertclymer6948 Alf's channel is pretty tough to beat, he's got a lot of good knowledge and lessons tied up in his videos! :)
@@robertclymer6948 For sure Alf is great!
Thanks for showing that it’s not just about burnouts or how a car looks, it’s about safety all day…..Thank you so much and you have Nothing to be embarrassed about cause someone will see this and learn from your mistakes👍🏿💯
Thank you! I hope so, because this could have been a lot worse and the next person might not be so lucky. :)
Shoutout from htown, glad no one got hurt
Thanks!
Andy, thanks for this update. Now I need to double check my drums. I also just replaced both rear wheel cylinders and never thought about this problem. Sorry it happened to you and your friend, but thanks for sharing now the rest of us are better informed. Time to double check mine.
Hopefully no one will find that their drums are not fully seated like mine, but if everyone knows the potential for this rare issue, then hopefully no one will ever have to go through this experience. :)
Turning wrenches Crap happens .
Glad no one was hurt .
Live and learn as you have like the rest of us.
Yeah, I got lucky that day. Although, it would have been nice if I would have taken a few more pics or some video, it's hard to describe everything when I only have a few pics to show the details. :)
On the positive side this could be the opportunity to add mild fender flares for larger wheels and tires or paint the car the color you really want. Love your videos!
Don't tempt me!! :)
@@AndyKruseChannel 245/50r16 tires on 16x9 Mini Lites all the way around 🤣😉😋🤔
@@gen1c8rs88 You're not helping!! :)
@@AndyKruseChannel Glad I could "Not Helping" 😄
Welcome to the "Ooops" Club, Andy. I did almost the exact same thing this summer in my 65. I was working on my rear brakes and brake lines, and hand tightened the lugs. Pulled out the lug wrench, set it down, and completely forgot to tighten the lug nuts. Then I went for a test drive and lost my driver side rear wheel and slid down the road for about 30 yards. I got lucky in that the rear tire just rubbed up against the quarter panel and left black rubber all over it, but no denting or tearing of the metal. Lost my brand new brake drum out in the desert somewhere and it's still out there to this day. I did the same thing you did...I found one lug nut and used one from each of the other three tires and limped it back home. Luckily I was driving at a slow speed and only about a mile from home. Had to get a new rear tire, new brake drum, another backing plate (that was hard to find), and new brake hardware. Car is running great now. You now have a "No Sh**, There I Was" story to tell.
Yeah, this could have been a lot worse, for both of us. :)
I am on my second 66 Coupe, and watch your video's multiple times when I am upgrading something you upgraded. I feel your pain, it actually hurt listening and watching this video. Glad you both are okay. Keep the videos coming. PS: I just installed the Borgeson steering gear box, and while it was up on stands, I rotated the tires. After seeing this going to check and make sure everything is seated, even though I didn't take drums off.
Thanks for the support!
I hope your build goes a little smoother than mine. :)
I almost lost the front wheel on my 66 mustang last summer. I had gotten a used hub for a disc brake conversion and when i replaced the studs they just didn't seem right ,snug but not solid. I drove the car a few times with no issues until i heard a metal clicking. I pulled over and checked the lug nuts and they seemed hand tight so i tried to limp it home until it shot a stud out from the back side of the hub. I was able to pull over before the wheel came off so I definitely know that feeling. Your channel is great so keep the progress videos coming.
Thanks!
Yeah, this kind of issue can be really scary, it's good to hear it didn't go as bad for you. :)
Wow Andy glad everyone was unhurt though! Feels hard to admit mistakes are made but we all have or will be there! Keep on keepin on!
Thanks 👍
Andy, thanks for sharing. Sorry that this happened. We've all made mistakes - we learn from them and move forward. No need to be embarrassed. I'm glad no one was hurt and the damage is repairable. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the support! :)
see it somewhat positively. You won't make this mistake again in your whole life. You make really great videos. Greetings from Germany.
Thanks for the support!
Yeah, I hope this is never a problem again. :)
Great video explaining what happened. I would have never thought that the stud could hold the drum off the axle like that. I will now always look twice to make sure that my drums are fully seated before I torque down the wheels. This could easily happen to anyone. What seems strange is that usually studs do not have a sharp shoulder like that, that turn from the threads into the bottom of the stud is usually very gradual and it would be difficult for the drum to hang up on it.
That shoulder is a locating device. It’s sized to fit the holes in the drum and it’s a larger diameter to add shear strength. When the brakes are used, the shoes inside the drum want to stop the drum from spinning, so for a short time all the load is trying to shear off the five studs. 😁
You probably just saved a dozen other mustang owners from the same fate...so no reason to be embarrassed. This sort of stuff happens to us all. I remember you having two different drums on the rear perhaps the shoulder issue would be a non issue with a new properly sized drum as I don't recall my drums having this issue.
I hope so, I can't believe how dumb I was and how easy it was to miss something like this.
No, this is definitely something that I could do on either wheel, those shoulders need to be there on those wheel studs to correctly position the drum with the wheel hub. :)
Great video. Trust me Brother... All of our car have brown stains on the whitey tighties. I see how this happened and will put it in my memory bank. Plan on the outer fender wells also when you attack the quarter panels.
A change of clothes is always required in these kinds of situations.
The fender wells appear to be fine, but I'll know more when I get in there. :)
Andy, as you said, things could’ve been so much worse. I had an issue with an improperly torqued rear wheel and was lucky enough to be a block from my house when I realized what the issue was. I was able to limp it home at a snails pace before any damage occurred. Keep up the good work and film your process to repair things, that will be satisfying to watch! 🤙🏾
I wish I had your luck, but thankfully I'm hyper-sensitive to bolting my wheels on, so this won't happen again. :)
Thanks for sharing the story. I just put my back wheels back on my 66 and I reference your channel all the time. . I'm going to double check mine now.. This is just a bump in the road my friend. Keep pushing forward.
I know you're a long time subscriber, so thanks for the support! :)
@@AndyKruseChannel I've been following your channel for a while and get a ton of inspiration from your video for my 66 mustang. Love seeing how much your channel has grown. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience my friend
Wow, thanks.
Now i need to go check mine.
Definitely! :)
Well, I went to go get a 72 mustang coupe with my dad which was about a year and a half ago. I was 17 at the time. The floor pans were pretty rusted out, the engine bay had 3 rusted holes in it, and the trunk had a bunch of pitting. I started out just saying I was gonna paint it (Like that was only gonna happen). Soon enough the whole car was apart and the engine was pulled and at the machine shop. The car had 220k miles and the owner still drove it sometimes. I was able to drive it around even though the carburetor was stuck sometimes and had a leaking diaphragm and it actually ran okay other than a little rod noise. I ended up pulling literally everything out of the car though. I learned a whole lot about what to do and not to do for the future. My dad taught me to do bondo and body work and we got the whole car in primer soon enough. He taught me to weld on like one or two patch panels on the floor and I was basically on my own to figure out how to weld sheet metal (he is good at thicker welding like on machinery but not so good at sheet metal). I ended up putting two new floor pans in, a bunch of patches in the trunk, and engine bay patches. One problem, I lap welded everything(my beads were actually really good though and I did spot weld it to the whole frame) Structurally, it was overkill and I ran a bead around the entire thing even though the door edge of the pan was originally just spot welded. But it looks like crap on the under side of the car and it is the one thing I regret doing. I did seal all of the laps with polyurethane and body sealer and undercoated it twice. I’m not worried about rust. But it still is gonna make people wonder wtf I did. The top looks great. I ground down my welds flat and ran a small amount of bondo over the whole edge and you literally can’t tell from the top. That was my big mess up/ “regret”. The door was rusted out on the bottom and I actually welded that one right and it came out great with a method I saw on UA-cam where you tack your sheet metal on over what you are fixing, cut a 45 degree slice between each tack, and then cut your tacks one at a time and push it in flat, then weld it flat. You can pull out the old piece from the inside and it worked great for my door. (This was the part of the door where all the grooves and bends are in the front bottom) To keep this from going on forever, I learned to put 3:55 gears in it(which I did right even though it was complicated and it took me a long time), a 4 barrel intake, mild cam, t5, a brake job, adapted a booster and master from a 97 mustang and welded the two pedal brackets together so my steering bolted up and I could have the pedals and booster off of the 97, and painted all the floors and engine bay with rustoleum gloss black tractor paint. The car is going to be dark green 4Q like it originally was, with the dark green interior. It has all the original stuff (literally all the original stuff) Dealer air installed in 73, I have the original hubcaps and keystone Klassics too. I’ve done all of this work and I still don’t know how to tune a carburetor yet which is kind of funny. Just haven’t gotten to that yet. 19 now and know a lot more about classics. Good luck with your car.
Wow, I guess I know who I'm calling when it comes time to get those quarter panels replaced! :)
Thanks for sharing, never thought that could happen. I have too some quarterpanel fixing job to do on my '66 Mustang this autumn.
No problem!
You do a video first, so I can see what to do. :)
Thanks for letting us know what happened so we can avoid the same problem. I'm happy for you that it wasn't worse...it easily could have been. Love your videos. Keep it up!
Thank you for the support!! :)
Good to see all party’s involved are ok. I think we all have had a learning experience. Mine was not fixing a air shock leak. My mustang sat on my 50/ 15s and just ate both tires as I tried backing out the driveway. The repaint will look killer.
Yeah, me too, it could have been really bad.
We learn best from our mistakes, hopefully someone else can learn from mine.
Yes, new paint would look awesome, now I gotta go sell a kidney to afford it! :)
I thank you for your admission. I’m probably less mechanically inclined than you are and working on my 66 coup. This is great information for me. Another comment said you probably saved a bunch of other owners from making the same mistake. I am one.
Thank you for the great videos!
Hopefully you'll never have to deal with this problem, and thanks for the support! :)
Hello Andy! Sorry for your issues but glad it didn't turn out a lot worse! I am going out to the garage and recheck my rear brake drums for this possible issue. Thanks for sharing this info with us. Now, I did a bone head move last week before I went to the car show. Got distracted (Wife bugging me) and forgot to put the pins back in the $1000 dollar fiberglas 4" cowl hood. Hood blew off by the end of my little street. Talk about embarrassing moment. Hood flew off but landed in someones front yard. lol very little damage, thank God. So check and double check your work folks, and put those hood PINS back on. Cheers from Motown.
Thanks for the support!
I'm glad it wasn't worse for you and your hood. We learn best from our mistakes. :)
Wow!! Just WOW!!! Thanks for posting this..
No problem.
Dude I’m so with you! The guy who never made a mistake never made anything!
Yet I continue to make them. Ugh. :)
Love your root, cause and analysis (RCA). Dont be embarrassed, happens to the best of us.
Thanks for the support!
Thanks for pointing this out. You are saving the rest of us from dealing with a similar issue.
I hope so, I'd hate to have this happen to someone else. :)
Sorry that happened. You were lucky. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! :)
Also, I replaced studs on axles back in the 1970s and those lug nuts back than had an impact took that swedged the lug studs on the wheel side so that the lugs don't loosen.
:)
Ah man Andy!! So sorry to see this but easily fixable and glad everyone is okay! Actually trimming my quarters this weekend but my tires are rubbing slightly (they are fiberglass though!)
I bet it's going to look awesome. I wish there was a way post pics in these comments sometimes, it would be cool to see how your setup comes out. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel I’m always posting on the Vintage Mustang Forum, it’s the 68’ E-Style Coupe!
Good video brother, nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about. It takes a big person to expose mistakes made and lessons learned. Keep your head up!
Thanks!
Yeah, I figured put the 'humble' hat on for a minute and see if this helps anyone else in the same scenario.
Nothing to be embarrassed about, Andy!
I appreciate that, I just hope I pay more attention in the future. :)
Sorry to hear of your mishap, like you said could have been a lot worse. Posting this could save many others from making the same mistake, myself included. Thanks for posting. Wish ya the best when it comes time to repair those quarters.
Thanks for that!
Glad no one got hurt and the repair wasnt extensive.
Yeah, me too! :)
Hang in there Andy, it happens to the best of us! We still love your videos and what you do!
I appreciate that!
I know it hurts, though congratulations on being human!! I had a similar situation on my 65 coupe, after getting a set the same wheels... I had tightened them with a 20volt DeWalt impact gun.. After a short drive, I felt a terrible vibration on deceleration.. I too, was fortunate to stop safely... I had another incident with my 47 Ford, with Hopster ARE wheels as well.. I only use a torque wrench, on each car now. Both to, 85 foot pounds.. God bless !
Yeah, I got lucky, and it sounds like you did too. :)
Been there done that. On 69 Datsun Roadster I used to have.Thought I torqued down the rear lugs nut. Luckily going slow after leaving the driveway felt something weird. Stopped and checked wheels...rear ones were sitting at a slight angle. OOOPPPSSS. Luckily close to house...got jack and tighten them up.
I wish it was that close for me, maybe next time? :)
That's just bad luck Andy, the most important thing is everyone was ok. Maybe you should consider grinding that edge of the lug nuts down to avoid any other possibility of it happening again. Keep rolling buddy.
Grind the edge of the lug nuts? No, that wasn't the issue. Grind the edge of the wheel studs? No, those shoulders need to be there to position the drum correctly on the wheel hub. What I need to do is pay attention when I'm put my drums on and make sure they're fully seated. :)
Just glad nobody got hurt, I couldn't imagine if that wheel and tire went bouncing down the road into oncoming traffic, could have been a lot worse. I know I've made plenty of mistakes in my DIY projects.
Same here brotha!
Dang. Hate to see that. Live and learn and like you said, could have been much worse. The rear quarters and fender lips don’t want to roll on these cars because of the double wall of the quarter and inner panel meeting. I got mine flat. Short story on how, I cut the inner wheel tub part where it meets the fender off after drilling out the 25+ spot welds and then hammered the fender portion flat against itself and rewelded it. Of course my car was not painted so I could do it that way. Might be a way to address any tire rub when you repair those quarters. Good luck and keep the vids coming. Happy to tell you more of how I did that if you’re interested
Thanks for the support!
Looks like I found the guy to fix my quarter panels! :)
wow thanks for the heads up same thing happened to me on the front drivers side
Sorry to hear that, but I'm glad I can send out a "heads up"! :)
I had my wheel come off on my 66 Mustang coupe. It was the same wheel, rear drivers side. Not due to this problem but due to me forgetting to tighten up the lug nuts when the car was back sitting on the ground after servicing the brakes. I was going down the highway at about 70 mph and thankfully it did not happen then but when I got off the freeway and was going around a big S curve the back end started to shimmy and I heard "Ping ping ping" as lug nuts and washers began to fly off and hit the pavement. Just as I realized what happened CLUNK the back left of the car hit the ground and the wheel was out and shooting past me. Luckily I had those Lakewood traction bars on at the time and they acted like a sled foot and protected everything. No damage to the car/fender and I was able to pull off to the side of the road. I did have to chase down my wheel and tire that was about a 1/4 mile away oddly enough in an open field right next to a Les Schwab tire dealer. The tire was about 30 feet away from crashing through their showroom window. 😬 Anyway, this is such valuable information because even though I am pretty diligent about torquing down my lugs ever since I was never aware of this problem and will be on the lookout from now on. In fact I have been doing a bunch of work on my car this winter including new brakes, wheels etc, I will go back and double check my drums on the rear. Thanks Andy.
Wow, you cashed in your chips that day! Very lucky! I'm glad to hear that you were able to get out that relatively unharmed. It's amazing how something so simple can change the way you do things and the procedures you take in the future. :)
Man your too cool. What an honest great video. We have all made mistakes. I’ve lost a few $$$ on my 65 with some live and learn moments.
But again I learned so much, that little seating thing with the rear drums I’m going to check mine now!!
Thanks!
Yeah, I would have never thought to put any effort into checking that fitment until it happened. I've had the wheels off a few times since that day and I'm super paranoid about it every time I put the wheels on. :)
It’s cool to see your mistakes because I’ve done stupid crap too like forget to put the thermostat in. So glad to see you see human and shit happens!
Human for sure, mistakes often, humble = definitely!!
Now would be the best time to roll the fender lips. I forgot to do mine before it was painted and it was scrapping the tires when I hit a hump in the road. I tried the Eastman rollers but it's actually a double lip and too hard. Had to go to a narrower and taller tire.
Couldn't roll the fender lips, that what caused the initial cracking. Maybe it's time to put on some larger fenders and get some wide tires! :)
Andy, this exact thing happened in my 66. Even the same driver’s side rear wheel. My error was that I torqued the wheel with it still jacked up and did not realize it was in a bind. All the lugs came off at once and I still remember the awful grinding, clunk sound as the rear violently dropped while going down the road. I think I still have some PTSD from it. I was only traveling about 35 mph so the damage was minimal other than the wheel itself.
Actually, if I remember correctly I had hand tightened the lugs and then let it down off the jack before torquing. Whatever I did, it was obviously the wrong choice. I am now in the habit of checking my torque specs every other time I drive the car.
I'm glad it wasn't a bad outcome for you, these things can be really bad when they go south! :)
We're glad you owned up to your mistake and we look forward to your next videos.
Thank you! :)
I appreciate you sharing this. I learned something I was not aware of
Awesome, helping others is the mission! :)
Aluminum wheels and Chrome lug nuts are a bad combination. I learned that with my first mustang in 1979. the rear wheel passed me doing about 70 on the highway but no damage but a scraped drum. had the same problem later on the front with a set of Cragars with unilug nuts. got lucky again. I think they made them illegal.
That’s a bummer.
Hi ! When you fix that quater-panel , You could at the same time add some wide body fenders , ?
I haven’t decided if I’ll add them or not. 🙂
The wonderful world of classic American muscle cars. Lessons learned 👌
Yeah, sometime we have to learn these lessons the hard way. :)
That's a bummer but like you said it could have been much worse. Don't beat yourself up too bad, these things happen in our hobby. When I rolled my quarters I lucked out and only cracked the paint in 1 spot. The whole thing was very stressful but necessary due to my tires rubbing.
I'll trade you, I'd rather just have a small crack in the paint. :)
Paint and fenders look fine. Don't freak out about it. I would put effort toward largest functional gain. Your paint and body is 95%. I would guess there are other issues more deserving of your efforts. Good content! Carry on.
Thanks for the support!!
I have been putting the money towards other upgrades as the paint/body is as you mentioned, mostly "there". It's one of those things that you know about and it's constantly on your mind, but most people don't always see it or care. :)
Exactly. If you removed every scratch and ding and put a brand new paint job on, I doubt I could tell the diffence from how it is now without being hypertechnical. And that would consume a ton of effort and resources. Good reasoning Andy.
thumbing this one up., Just doesn’t seem right . But for the channel. No problem. Thanks for sharing . Definitely a valuable lesson I can learn from
I got really lucky my buddy or anyone didn't get hurt. I think I cashed in all my chips that day. :)
Great info. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Chit happens to all of us. Don’t feel bad...joys of owning muscle cars.
Yeah, I was struggling to find the joy in it the day it happened. But, I did get to replace some parts, and I enjoy turning the wrench on my car, so there's that! :)
Sorry to be wordy, but I did a Granada disc conversion and used the 1965 non Magnum 500 steel wheels. And the wheels on the back don't match with the Granada rotor. And what happened to you happened to me.
Yeah, it's a mistake I won't make again. :)
Bigger question, when are we cutting off and replacing those quarter panels?
Great question. I need to time it with a repaint of the car. I really don't want to drive around with a large Primer rectangle on each side of the car for a year while I prepare to paint it. And I don't want to leave the car in the garage because I can't paint it.
The important part is everyone is ok and you owned your mistake. it's an easy mistake anyone could make and I'm about to do my brakes so thanks for the heads up 🙏
Thanks! Glad I can help! :)
100 ft lbs? I put the retainer back on it. They can be pick up online. They keep the drum from walking off.
You torque to 100 ftlbs?
Retainer? Is there a part missing on my car?
Hi Andy, I have following you for a while and basically have the same color and car. Trying to decide whether I want 17" wheel or 16" wheel. Can you tell me what the back space is on your 16x7". I have the Maiers Mod 1 in front and back with narrow leafs in the back.
Thanks for the support!
My wheels are 16x7 with 4" backspacing. The tires are 225/50/16 Falken Azenis, so they're a pinch wider than the squishy all-season equivalent tires more people tend to purchase.
Maier's MOD stuff is great, I wish I could fit it in my budget. :)
wow that could have been really bad, glad it was relatively minor. when you put the drum on wrong, were m making a video by any chance? it would be interesting to have proof that what you think happened is what happened. and if your friend doesn't want to drive, I will hahaha
Nah, I was checking on the work I had done, after I was done with the video. :)
I can see from here the bottom of the quarters/rocker area have more mud than a wet farm field. Take it to a body shop and replace both quarters.
It's worse than that. :)
Always torque wheels to 100ft lbs, your not going to hurt anything. That’s how we do wheels in our shop, never had an incident.
Yeah, I've heard that from others, but then I'll also hear 85 from other mechanics, so it's tough to know where to be. Thankfully this issue wasn't from torqueing the lugs too low, it was just not putting the drum on correctly. :)
Hey boss curious what back spacing you using on your wheels im thinking of doing some wheel tire stuff on mine watched your wheel video didnt hear anthing on your back spacing ? 🔧🚗🐎🇺🇸🙌
4” backspacing.
@Andy Kruse thanks you think I could get away with a 8 inch on the rear 0 off set and 4.5 inch back spacing on the rear ? Was thinking 7s with 4.0 on the front and after watching again I seen where you said 4.0 backspace
@@fordtechlife It depends on the tire width. With my 4" backspacing and 225/50 tires, I had to roll the lip a little (that's how I found out my quarter panels had bond in them and I messed up the paint). You may have to go with 5" backspacing on an 8" wheel for the rear. On the fronts I ran into the same issue and had to roll the fenders. However, had I gone with a skinnier tire, I might have been ok, but who wants skinny tires? :)
H friend, Beautiful Mustang you have. I have a question: I work with the resto of my 1970 Cougar convertible, and I will built it with "Old time vintage race look and style" with attitude and performance.- Question; What is the name, Id / type of American Racing wheels you have on your car??? and what is the dimension of the wheels / tires? - I ask because there are so many different types of these wheels on the market, but THE WHEELS you have on your car are exactly what Im looking for!!! - Hope you can help me with some info. - Best greetings and peace and love from Norway : )
Hello! The wheels are American Racing Torq Thrust II, sized 16x7 with 4 inch backspacing (part number VN2156765). The tires are Falken Azenis RT615K+, sized 225/50/16, all four.
@@AndyKruseChannel Thank you so much Andy !! - Finally and with your help and supportI I have found the correct type of wheels for my car. I have just subscribed on your channel, and I look forward to see your videos. Your Mustang looks beautiful, and I hope you will get it back on the road soon. - Best regards from Ole
Good video. I have a Tribute too. Paint should be Wimbledon White.
Thanks!
Wimbledon white is on the list. :)
Wow Andy! Thanks for sharing that - I can see how that could happen very easily. I'll check mine immediately. Glad you and your bud are good to go. I know you've mentioned it before but what are your wheel and tire sizes exactly and where did you get them? - it's time to buy and I want to do the same on my coupe.
Thanks again and carry on!
Gary
Thanks!
I'm running 16x7 American Racing Torq Thrust (no. VN2156765) and 225/60/16 Falken Azenis tires. :)
@@AndyKruseChannel Thanks Andy ;)
Andy I know you feel terrible, I know because it happened to me only I think i forgot to tighten my lugs when i dropped the car back on the ground. This happened back in the late 70s. My wife drove the car to work that day. She called me and said, something is wrong with the mustang. So I went to trade cars with her, on my way home the wheel came off, did minor damage. It could have been so much worse she could have been injured or worse. Long story short, I have never made that mistake again and believe it or not my wife is still married to me.
It's funny how that's on the list of mistakes we'll never make again, but somehow we still manage to get in trouble with the Boss. :)
Oh, and if you have to pull the axle, after loosing the four retainer nuts, reverse the drum brake, two turns per lug and now you made your drum into a axle puller, to save money.
Good to know. :)
I had this exact thing happen on my 68 except the wheel fell off and it ate up the quarter panel behind the wheel arch
Yeah, I was extremely lucky, this could have been a lot worse. :)
Still a very nice project cowboy
Thanks!
That is an amazing tip! Need to watch those shoulders. Mental note!
Awesome, hopefully you won't have this issue. :)
put spme celar coat on that or clear nail polish to prevent further cracking??
Nah, it's fine for now. I plan to tackle those quarter panels, so it's just ugly for a little while. :)
Andy can you let me know what size tires you have on the front and rear? Thanks.
They are Falken Azenis 225/50/16. :)
Thank you for PSA! Could happen to any of us.
No problem. :)
And that is with that Shelby drop and my modification. It is almost level.
:)
Damn that sucks …. Mishap , happens to the best of us.
Yeah, I just hope this helps at least one person from the same problem. :)
Now you have a spare but put a new tire on it. Accidents happen and that’s sometimes how we learn. CANADIAN SUPERMAN APPROVES.
Yeah, it's sitting in the shed, haven't decided what to do with it. :)
lesson learned the hard way. But you were lucky!
Yep. :)
What size are your wheels/tires back off set.👍
15x7 with 4” backspacing. 225/50/16 Falken Azenis, all four.
Mate, no need to be embarrassed. It was an accident and you are lucky that it wasn't way worse. Scary to think what the alternative could be.
Yeah, I cashed in all my chips that day. :)
Bummer man 👊🐎🚗🔧🇺🇸🙏
Yeah, could have been worse. :)