I Bought the FIRST BROKEN Xbox Series X Controller - Can I Fix It?
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- I Bought the FIRST BROKEN Xbox Series X Controller - Can I Fix It? When I plugged the controller in it had no power and didn't respond at all. While diagnosing the issue I discovered some gunk on some of the motherboard components. I decided to reflow the main chip on the motherboard in case this BGA chip wasn't fully connected. And that got it to work...until I put it all back together. So it was back to doing more testing to see what was causing the problem.
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Have you had problems with your Series S/X controller?
@RuneAhrim Fantasies Ha, ha...ya, those aren't that old.
@RuneAhrim Fantasies You should be thankful because I still have the old black xbox one.
hey my xbox i have the Black screen of death please help
Mine has worked perfectly and I love it!! The new d pad is amazing!!!!
Hi do you have any play station left can send me one please or any one hear have one that you do not want
Today we have no perfect amount of Thermalpaste... but we still learn A Lot. THUMBS UP Steve 😊😊😊
Who needs button membranes when you can just use thermal paste?
This was actually really interesting because it was a novel problem you couldn't fix so easily. You were able to figure out the limits of the problem and you basically have a really good idea about the culprit, but could also be still wrong. Intriguing indeed. If it was just a totally unknown situation of not even able to turn the controller on, it would be far less interesting.
Those appear to be two patch antennas by design (can't see other side of the board to confirm). What you have may be a 1T2R configuration: 1 transmit, 2 receive. So the faulty path is one of the receives which would explain why your reception suffers. Wireless reception is influenced by the square of the distance you are from the source (electrical engineers are taught this in first year). You were on the right track looking at the components in the receive chain.
Take your soldering iron and rotate any of the inline or shunt caps in the RF signal path and see if they crack. A common but hard to spot issue with 0402 caps is cracking when installed by the pick 'n place machine. If they are damaged, then replace as required. A hairline fracture is hard to see but easy to find as the part will literally crumble when you apply heat.
You can swap in the other daughter card and isolate the fault to the radio module or the side with the antennas. Most likely on the radio module side. The extra steps will confirm.
I just got an iFixit Kit and it comes today, I also bought a cheap xbox controller that has sticky buttons icant wait to get it apart and fix it! :D
I'm excited for you! Love it when I get new tools!
Imagine a crossover
kind of odd that folks sell them on ebay instead of getting a warranty replacement, it's only been like 4 months since the consoles came out
I think the warranty on controllers is 90 days
Heh, must be a non-European person then.
Over here EVERY part of the device has to be covered by the standard 24-month warranty.
Or, the seller broke the controller and knew that warranty doesn't cover it, like chucking it across the room, or giving it liquid damage.
@@SuperSpyMonkey Doesn't hurt to try though. I sent my PS4 Pro to Sony two years after warranty expired and I had even opened it so the warranty stickers were slightly peeled off and they still sent me a fixed console for free. All I had to do was provide proof of purchase. Same with an original PS4 controller I had bought used on eBay! I sent them the eBay receipt and they still accepted it and sent me a new controller, I think I just had to pay shipping on that one. So I would always give the manufacturer a try first, especially with a device so new and with an issue that doesn't seem like there was any tampering done.
most of thems store and amazon returns people just buy bulk lots of that stuff that may or may not work and test and resell it how it is
Could have been bought from a scalper, I doubt they offer warranty.
If one can easily get piles of broken PS5 controllers, but finding a single broken Series X controller is noteworthy, that definitely speaks a lot on their respective quality.
Not super surprising. The Series X controllers are near identical to the Xbox One controllers making them the 3rd (?) revision of the same controller. The Dualsense is basically in field testing at this point in it's life.
Maybe there are just more PS5 sold than Series X. Just a theory.
There's more to it than that. How many have been sold compared to the others? What is the warranty policy like? etc.
@@bsanp yeah i don’t get how people don’t get this
The man who is always so happy to buy broken stuff. 😂
ikr
I would be too if I was smart
Had this before the white filter on the rf line goes bad look at it with a thermal cam and you will see its shorted replace it and she will live again
Steve gotta read this! Upvote
why would any one dislike this guy's videos??
PS fanboys?
Because there was no "Perfect amount of thermal paste".
@TronicsFix it may also be the antenna and not the chip. I don't know how common that would be, but i think it is a possiblity.
That was my thought
Hi @TronicsFix,
Maybe the antenna is shorted with the shielding. If thats the case then it might worth checking continuity between the antenna and its shielding (It could cause a short to one of the powersupply rails).
If the antenna was shorted to the shielding then it would have worked when I plugged the other antenna in.
@@Tronicsfix They both could be broken in some way, but only one antenna output prevents from booting. It may be worth checking also the other board or even connector itself.
@@FrankDrebin If the other antenna was broken then it wouldn't work when it was plugged in to the working socket.
@@Tronicsfix If you know how antennas are wired inside the chips then sure.. From what I can see on the video the antennas are for different frequencies, not sure if these are 2.4 + 5 GHz for wifi or something else, but backend will be way different.
@@Tronicsfix At GHz ranges RF is pure magic anyway, classic electronic is just not applying to it.
Hey friend , I realize that the anthena cable its the problem !!! I had the same problem and just replace the anthena cable from an xbox one s controller and working now!!! Try it and come back with the news!!! Regards from Mexico!!!
Did you ever find a solution to this? I have the same issue. If I disconnect the wire it works for up to 20 feet though. It’s not a huge deal, just curious.
If it smelled like a perfume, they probably had sticky buttons on their controller as that's what I used to do. Now saying my old controller smell.
Well you might be able just to connect just a long wire that could work as an antena. Fixed this issue on my nintendo switch which had the same problem. I just took an old laptop antena, cut it to size and vola.
Oh wow that's really a weird problem. If the chip was the problem then the controller would not function at all i guess. Maybe the other wire has a bent in it or just a faulty cable... who knows. Great video again steve 👍🏻 can't wait for the broken PS5 video's
It's coming! Just finished editing it.
Great content! I love seeing inside of expensive things. I've also been inspired to try and fix some of my own devices!
been watching your channel for years and everything i know about fixing game consoles is thanks to you man, keep it up!
it smells disgusting
* takes a giant whiff and caughs
wait..........you knew it stunk and you did that anyway? lol
reminds me of adrian's digital basement. This tantilum capacitor is bad. When they fail they stink like crazy. He then removes it. And THEN HE BLOWS IT ANYWAY!!!! Then he's like man it stinks. lmao
isn't that what everyone does though ?
LOL
@@Creedoo if I know it stinks then he'll no
I've just remembered myself at chemistry. Teacher told us that one of test tubes has concentrated vinegar. And what did I to check that? Took a giant whiff
Nice to see troubleshooting in action!
Yoo I was waiting for one of your videos to come out.
Thanks for watching!
Hey man, i gotta tell you, iwatched nearly 8Hours of your Videos in the past 3 days after first discovering you. Your Videos are so good and so damn interesting, that i really want to start repair stuff. Love you and your vids :)
I hope a bunch of broken Xbox series X controllers break so we can get the “I bought 15 broken Xbox series x controllers” video can be a thing, great video man
Great start to the weekend love your content!
Glad you enjoy it!
That was me, I farted in the box.
Imagine lol
Not much to add, just want to comment that the perfume smell suggests to me something was spilled on it or it burned out and they tried to cover up the smell.
It's also possible they sanitized it with some sort of scented wipes, but it's usually not that strong, especially after a long period of time.
this was especially interesting since it was a very unique problem, the first of its kind, really enjoyed this one dude
Hi can u help me... I have an Xbox one controller and I dropped it so the analogue stick snapped and the other small half of it is stuck in the thumbstick. Is there a way I can fix it by joining it back
How weird is that. I'm looking forward to see you fixing this in the future.
I ordered your driver kit, can't wait to try to get back into the repair game. I have not touched a PCB in years but I was a Quality control inspector and ran a solder wave years ago, wish me luck... I was curious where to get my parts now that there is no radio shack :p
solder reflow are great way to fix (if the chip not broke/fire) no power. in Teknisi Ndeso, few abandoned Nokia phones turn on.
My Pro Tech Tool Kit is arriving today. Used your link to get $10 off. Let's take everything apart. 😂😂
Greetings from Germany. Huge Fan of your Videos :)
I hope People will never stop putting broken stuff on Ebay so you can buy and fix those. :D
Change the big Mainboard from the good working one with this one and connect the Wire. Maybe the Antennacable is making any Short/Circuit that it doesnt have to do normally
Why was there a color difference in the PCB where the reflowed chip sat on the non/kinda/sorta working controller and the known good test controller? Just seemed odd like so ething had become rather warmish. Great vid, thanks for the ride along!
The original owner must have given up after plugging it in just a couple of times - thus brand new controller - great buy Steve !!!
Please send it toTheCod3r. The PS4 video repair was amazing.
Its impresses me how these controllers look more complicated than consoles from 20 years ago
@TronicsFix if you notice the antennas are soldered to the other half of the board. I’m guessing it’s so they can use an area of the PCB as a bigger antenna. Try desoldering the one that’s causing the controller to not turn on and then plug it into the antenna port by doing this you should be able to see if it’s a issue with grounding on the soldered part of the antenna. Since these are the same antenna styles used by smartphones, computers, etc. I think that the chip is fine but there’s a short in the antenna wire when it’s soldered to the other pcb.
I have this same problem
With a 1708 model controller. It works but have to leave it unplugged or else it doesn’t power on.
I have same problem, but also when connected to that antenna socket bord with chip becomes warm and start to smell. At least i can use it wired now. BTW warranty is full year but because these controller does not sell officially here (Ukraine) i had to import it from Poland and warranty return is only available from supported countries (When i type my Ukraine address nothing happens, but if i type my Poland shopping address it proceed to send it with UPS to Austria. Because UPS is also overpriced in Ukraine it's cheaper to just buy another one). By the way it's aqua shift model. Front mold manufactured in February 2021 and back mold is from July 2021.
I have a sinking feeling that the next generation of controllers will glued together.
When u r so fast even the “who’s been a true fan for over a year”aren’t here
I love your videos so much! Keep it up👍🏻can’t wait for 1 million🙂
Do u ever have to buy any new electronic stuffs? As u can repair in any condition. U saved a lot of money dude..
I find these videos cool. 👍
Could it be the actual antenna has break in the middle of it?
Good idea, but if that was the case then the other antenna wouldn't have caused it to turn off.
@@Tronicsfix electronics are weird I once fixed a go pro by putting it in the fridge. Don’t know if that’s worth a go? 😅
bruh those new grip plates are so hard to get off! it's worth it though because they fit a lot nicer than the old style and don't creak / shift around like they did before. (had to remove one of mine because the trigger was sticking due to the foam pad being placed incorrectly in the factory)
overall, i think it's a big improvement over the previous ONE S controller.
I hope TronicsFix will make video of common issue of series X controllers - unresponsive Y button.
I just randomly went on this channel and I saw this video was uploaded minutes ago. This wasn’t recommended, and I didn’t get it via notification.
Thanks for stopping by!
I can’t wait for this repair
Glad you're enjoying these!
Might be dumb but I hate piercing the warranty sticker, I like spending time to peel it and safely keep it until I’m done and I’ll put it back when I’m don’t it feels right, no matter what I don’t want to tear it
@TronicsFix- My question may sound dumb but can’t we just connect the two Antennas into a single point(that was working properly) just to add a small boost to the wireless reception. Sorry for my ignorance as I am not a technical person.
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I love these repair videos
Glad you're enjoying them!
I actually broke my series controller and fixed it and then put a clear shell mod on
Nice! Love the clear shells on these!
What computer program do you use to test your controllers as far as analog drift, buttons not working, power supply, and testing the batteries?
I used to have rumble motors are annoying sometimes it short circuits it
Yes been waiting on this. Good video as always
Appreciate it!
@@Tronicsfix appreciate u I’m young but one day I might start looking to fix stuff like this
Did you try some of the components on the cord of The other board the part where it's soldered into there could be a component that went bad there that could be shorting it where it is not working
When I built my new computer I started it out as a pile of components with no case. When I put it in the case, I forgot the antenna (which is just externally connected to a port in the back of the motherboard. It freaking worked!!! I was still getting high speed internet without an antenna. I was shocked.
HI Love your video's , thank you
Thanks for watching!
Another video, another saved evening :)) Thank you Steve 😊😊
My pleasure!
Did you measure the impedance of the antenna on that side of the known good controller from the cable , seems to me the only thing that could cause a condition like that would be some kind of problem on the antenna side, else why would unplugging it remove the fault ?
I know you checked with the other side , but are you sure they are both the same ?
Hi Steve! I have an xbox one 1708 model controller and it has a similar problem. Unlike the new xbox series controller, the previous model (1708) has only one connector while the newer one has two (as shown on your video). So the controller i have works fine but i have to leave that connector unplugged or else it doesn’t power on. However in my case, it works fine even at a certain distance (6 feet) so maybe some kind of short?
Kinda miss hearing "Perfect amount of thermal paste"
Dang!.. your power of deduction is uncanny.. kudos to you sir XD
Did you try if the Bluetooth worked fine ? It could still be used as a wireless controller for a PC.
Hello love seeing u fix controller
Hi Steve, what is the game pad tester software you use??
Hey you might not see this but just asking/trying to help- do you should also test the mic in the ps5 duelsense controller because that may have issues?
You have a video were an x box one x stoped reading disc
Hey @TronicsFix do you like the 117 multimeter?? I'm in the market for a new one.
0:08
Sticks his nose in it immediately 🤣
Bought a tool kit to try and repair a sticky B button and a weird Joystick Click (it only register when pushing down the joystick very hard and not when clicking normally). The B is now working properly but not the joystick... Don't know what I should do
What if the antenna connector on the MCU board is shorted when you plug in? You can test it.
I think its the motors too much power. After reflowing it worked but when you connected the motors it doesnt work
Apparently not.
Hi, what is name of the software you are using to test the game pads?
We need to figure out how to look at the boards without a schematic now.
Re balling is so tedious I don't blame you.
What is that liquid you using in 4:07 ?
Thank you!
Use a small cell phone or tablet wifi antenna and you should be good as new like a separate one inside
Good video 😀👍
Thank you 👍
What temp and airflow do you use for reflowing the chip or thumb sticks
that was clever with the marker I liked that lol I would have been dumb to not do that
2:24 Those batteries are not rechargeable so why should it be higher with fully charges batteries when you are using alkaline?
Is it possible to replace the antenna that’s causing the issue, or the pad it connects to? Just wondering and maybe not the chip itself but antenna 🤔
Would be weird, but maybe could try🤷🏼♂️
Yeah, that was my thought too, because it seems like its the antenna short-circuiting, not a problem with the chip.
He tried two antennas.
If the antenna was the problem then it would have worked when I plugged the other antenna in
@@Tronicsfix gotcha, thx for explaining 🙏🏼
Cheers✌🏻
No power?? Does it buzz or hum when plugged in?? Mine does and has no power
I didn't see the videos but I am asure it is awesome as always 😀
Why don't you try the known good D-Pad board with the 'faulty' controller. I say that because I recently purchased an Xbox One Fornite controller that had a faulty 'view' buton and replaced the power board and it fixed my issue.
A little off topic but BW-100 spray 100% works. No more controller drift 👍
As long as the potentiometers aren't physically worn out it does a great job getting them working again
If you took a chip off a donor board would you not have some solder balls on it to just do a reflow on the install?
Yo can u make a vid of how to fix deadzone on xbox elite v2 controller
Hey tronicsfix do you guys still clean consoles that have dust and roaches
Where can I get quality replacement for the thumb stick controllers ?
Sony and Xbox shld hire u!
Can you clan a PS4 with bw-100??????
I just a new one two weeks a ago the analog stick is drifting up and the right trigger is sticking very annoying might have to to just return not worth the fix my self since I’m not trying to make money off it
I’m hoping that I can get a ps5 soon
Why not just attach the known good board with the known good BGA chip to the tested powered board and check?
Don’t remember if you mentioned it in this video but where can I find cheap/ decently priced saudering equipment?
I mean solder (misspelled that bad)
I'd use amazon
The buttons seems to work *while only moving the analog sticks*