Great video! I've always found malt work easier than planche work, especially on rings. I think you've seen it yourself, but I've nearly had a ring malt without having a full planche. Maybe you could do a video on why people may find malt easier than planche? I'm assuming it's balance, but I'm curious on your take.
Hey barkage, sick skills! How long have you been training? I've only had been training for a few months and I'm still progressing on basic bodyweight training like pushups, pullups.and squats. I'm able to do a few pull ups compared to none at all, and my joints are feeling stronger and more pain free...
alot of people consider half rom to be full planche pushups coz thats how most athletes have done them for many many years before its only in the past 4 years or so that people have started doing full rom really clean planche psuhups with good protraction and lockout .
faxkage half rep = arm parallel to floor full rep = shoulder & wrist in line deep rep = forearm parallel to floor it's the Burningate form presentation so pre much the most official there is :)
I Determine the depth of my push up by the level of my elbow compared to my wrist, so what you call deep push up i just call it half Pelican, and it's criteria is the back of my elbow should be at the level of my wrist, or my forearm's bones are Prallel to the floor
Ultimately, it all comes down to preference. However, one thing is for sure is that the deeper you go, the harder and more impressive the skill is. Awesome vid Barkage! 🤙🏽💪🏽
I think the issue is regular pushups, at least for military strictness, stops when the upper arm is parallel to the floor. so just carrying that over to planche pushup, it would be the same standard. the issue is, going from top to lowered pushup, it's 90 degrees ROM. whereas in planche, you're already leaning forward, so the bottom portion, although still parallel, would only be about a 45 degree ROM.
Barkage the chad!! Curious question: how come you wear your arm sleeves on some videos and you keep em off in others? Also, do you use wrist support every time you workout?
Btw sir I am training for oah and i can do a good 15+ sec of 3 finger assisted holds can u give me tips to balance in oah i have strength but i can't balance
In my humble opinion I think that a "normal" planche pushup should be 90°, pretty much like you do with a dip. Because the way I think of it is, if you take a standard pushup you'd go nose to the ground or chest to the ground, and then you'd touch the ground, so a standard pushup would have you float just above the ground and then going back up. With the same principle in mind if you were to go that deep without parallettes, then you'd be touching the ground near 90° or slightly below, (like in a dip) and for such an advanced skill I would say that's ok. Anything below that would be considered deep to me, purely because the only way you can go that deep is by having parallettes... and when you go THAT deep you start to go into pelican training ground :)
THIS, the only way to go that deep is by using parallettes, because even tho its called planche pushup, the movement is more similar to a dip where past 90 is considered deep
The last one was legit ,that is why IT was hard and its kinda stylish The Key points is when your elbow get Higher then your back tout low enough you must have good form at this point but lower than that depth and form make no diff unless you hit pelican or dead planche. As you come Up when your back get as High as your elbow you must cross that key point having a good form all the way Up .assistance with lats (elbow lever kinda) is cheat juste like half rep. If you go low but dont Point the elbows Up Higher then the back it's incomplet an Playing around with leveling ,angles and alignement to get a momentum is obvious even with good specific requierement.
I think why people call your " full rom planche push ups " deep is because of the handstand push up parralel In handstand push ups shoulder to bars equals deep
great video , i have question I trained on March 23 and 24 and these days when I like to do muscle up or whatever my arms starts to hurt a lot and I feel tired , I don't feel anything when I'm not training by the way , what should i do ?
Great video! I've always found malt work easier than planche work, especially on rings. I think you've seen it yourself, but I've nearly had a ring malt without having a full planche. Maybe you could do a video on why people may find malt easier than planche? I'm assuming it's balance, but I'm curious on your take.
Good idea, thanks for the suggestion
Hey barkage, sick skills! How long have you been training? I've only had been training for a few months and I'm still progressing on basic bodyweight training like pushups, pullups.and squats. I'm able to do a few pull ups compared to none at all, and my joints are feeling stronger and more pain free...
alot of people consider half rom to be full planche pushups coz thats how most athletes have done them for many many years before its only in the past 4 years or so that people have started doing full rom really clean planche psuhups with good protraction and lockout .
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half rep = arm parallel to floor
full rep = shoulder & wrist in line
deep rep = forearm parallel to floor
it's the Burningate form presentation so pre much the most official there is :)
I Determine the depth of my push up by the level of my elbow compared to my wrist, so what you call deep push up i just call it half Pelican, and it's criteria is the back of my elbow should be at the level of my wrist, or my forearm's bones are Prallel to the floor
Ultimately, it all comes down to preference. However, one thing is for sure is that the deeper you go, the harder and more impressive the skill is. Awesome vid Barkage! 🤙🏽💪🏽
"i dont want to call anybody out but valentin is cheating in push ups" XDDD
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I think the issue is regular pushups, at least for military strictness, stops when the upper arm is parallel to the floor. so just carrying that over to planche pushup, it would be the same standard. the issue is, going from top to lowered pushup, it's 90 degrees ROM. whereas in planche, you're already leaning forward, so the bottom portion, although still parallel, would only be about a 45 degree ROM.
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Thanks for filming on your rest day
Great, just great 👍
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Curious question: how come you wear your arm sleeves on some videos and you keep em off in others? Also, do you use wrist support every time you workout?
Yeah, I wear wrist wraps every time, but try not to use elbow sleeves unless I really need them because they make everything so much easier
@barkage Can you make a video explaining that? I don't use any of those, not even chalk.
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Btw sir I am training for oah and i can do a good 15+ sec of 3 finger assisted holds can u give me tips to balance in oah i have strength but i can't balance
I am not the person to ask hahahaha. Wishing you good luck thought 👍
We all know which athlete does these elbow lever push ups 💀
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In my humble opinion I think that a "normal" planche pushup should be 90°, pretty much like you do with a dip. Because the way I think of it is, if you take a standard pushup you'd go nose to the ground or chest to the ground, and then you'd touch the ground, so a standard pushup would have you float just above the ground and then going back up. With the same principle in mind if you were to go that deep without parallettes, then you'd be touching the ground near 90° or slightly below, (like in a dip) and for such an advanced skill I would say that's ok.
Anything below that would be considered deep to me, purely because the only way you can go that deep is by having parallettes... and when you go THAT deep you start to go into pelican training ground :)
THIS, the only way to go that deep is by using parallettes, because even tho its called planche pushup, the movement is more similar to a dip where past 90 is considered deep
In gymnastics I think full range dips are defined by shoulders to wrist, basically like barkage said for the push up, get your point tho
I agree
The last one was legit ,that is why IT was hard and its kinda stylish
The Key points is when your elbow get Higher then your back tout low enough you must have good form at this point but lower than that depth and form make no diff unless you hit pelican or dead planche.
As you come Up when your back get as High as your elbow you must cross that key point having a good form all the way Up
.assistance with lats (elbow lever kinda) is cheat juste like half rep.
If you go low but dont Point the elbows Up Higher then the back it's incomplet an Playing around with leveling ,angles and alignement to get a momentum is obvious even with good specific requierement.
I think why people call your " full rom planche push ups " deep is because of the handstand push up parralel
In handstand push ups shoulder to bars equals deep
They are not as strong as you
Great explanation and really easy to understand!
Hi barkage, I would like to know your thoughts on using DUP periodization for progression on static skills
Not necessary in my opinion. Consistency is all that matters
great video , i have question
I trained on March 23 and 24 and these days when I like to do muscle up or whatever my arms starts to hurt a lot and I feel tired ,
I don't feel anything when I'm not training by the way , what should i do ?
Thanks, I’d still just take a break from muscles ups for a bit and then try again after a week or so
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