At 12:39 the chords of the Dorianb2 mode are shown instead of the melodic minor scale. The chords should have been: CmM7 - Dm7 - Ebmaj7#5 - F7 - G7 - Am7b5 - Bm7b5 Apologies for the inconvenience.
Holy shit... You are Amazing...and melodic minor has eluded me all these years..but with your inspiration..I have some major woodshedding to do..thank you so much... sincerely Alex
Man, you've compressed so much info in this one video, all explained in an easy to follow easy to understand way. Thank you for a great tutorial, thanks for your love to the guitar community.
As usual avery clear, complete and interesting video. I hope that someday you will publish your all ecellent pub lications in several ebooks or a great course.
12:39 The chord diagrams here have lots of typos or I am confused. Please clarify? First chord should be Cmin7 but it’s Dmin7? NeXT should be a DbMaj7#5 but says EbMaj7#5 it appears that they are all a whole step above how they should have been noted. I’m pretty new to MusicTheory, so I just have to make sure that I’m not missing some thing. And then when I tried to play the second chord after the C minor seven the way it’s being played on the guitar sounds completely different than the way the cord is noted so it sounds like it’s either being played in a different position then the chord diagram shows because when I tried to play it, it sounded like a completely different cord than what I hear with my ear. it would probably be better to play the examples in the same exact position and not in an inversion or something that’s different how the diagram is laid out because when I try to play it exactly like it’s laid out it doesn’t sound like what he’s playing and I have a pretty good ear
Yes that's a error. The chords of the Dorian b2 mode are shown. I must have overwritten the graphic. The chords should have been: CmM7 - Dm7 - Ebmaj7#5 - F7 - G7 - Am7b5 - Bm7b5
It would be great to also have a lesson on melodic minor modes chords progression and soloing in that context. As always: thanks for the great video that is very insightful
5:45 you show Emaj7#5 on your diagram, but the chord belonging to C melodic minor is Ebmaj7#5. Thanks for your videos, I enjoy them and have learned quite a lot about theory from you.
Great video. Thanks so much! I usually improvise using the modes of the major scale including aeolian/natural minor and sometimes harmonic minor, but have recently wanted to get more use out of the melodic minor - this is helpful, many thanks! :)
Wow just what I needed and I was gonna mention for Pop "Yesterday" and bang there you are!! Also Eddie Van Halen goes into it at the end of the Tremolo picking section in the second section. From E7 to D Melodic Minor. But more importantly for me you are explaining the altered mode and others with great examples.
Thanx for the tutorial. I found what I think are a few typos/errors: The chords of the locrian natural 2 scale seem to have the wrong illustration but with the correct voiceover. Also, the melodic minor in Yesterday is D melodic minor (not F melodic minor). You talk about the backdoor dominant, but a backdoor dominant is the dominant a whole step below the tonic, as in IVm-VII7-I.
Good stuff but during the 11:00 section the Lydian Augmented isn’t correct. You need to sharp the 5th. Also the altered is incorrect. You need to flat the 4th.
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This "modest melodic minor modes presentation" (27'58'')... Modest = Merging pedagogically the concepts of secondery dominant , II-V-I cadence and tritone substitution, before connecting the 7 modes (including the supposedly dreary superlocrian) of an overlooked scale in a wonderfully harmonious and logical melody... "Modest", you are, obviously. But this tutorial is outstanding ! (As usual may we say?).
Another great lesson! thank you for sharing your knowledge with us (I'am self-taught person, beginner in guitar playing, so I appreciate it very much). Ofc "Like" :)
I was wondering how a six nine chord on the second degree would sound good with the flat nine in the melody...couldn't this scale also be used over a dominant chord giving it the flat nine the sharp nine and the flat thirteenth?
Hi im slow nice to meet ya. Sometimes i dont think intelligent people can teach slower people because they assume everyone just heres tonic and islikeoh yeahshhh tonic no problem. Ive been playing for EONS and im just starting to get it but barely so people who are confusewd and like what remember this is not rocket science so dont be like me and let your OCD run wild. Also know this guy speaks sophisticated and a beginner is going to be like whattt????? Go to basic theory stuff like this might help you lear4n a scale but to put music into context and apply it you gotta go to basic theory first also learn all the dialog before you play. Hey quick people this message isnt for you youre too smart to comprehend.
Hi Kuku. This video is already more than 30 minutes. And regarding this video is about the modes of the melodic minor scale and not the harmony of a specific scale, taking you through all the extended chords would make this video less efficient. But... no worries :) I will make dedicated videos for each mode in the nearby future with all the extended chords within the mode.
@@QJamTracks excellent :D 13 chords are problematic(for me) because: 13 in one chord = 1 in another chord c,e,g,a = a,c,e,g and,if we play c,e,g,b,d,f,a chord,we play whole scale all 13 chords = whole scale,they all contain the same set of sounds
I thought modes were only of the major scale? All minor scales are also derived form the major scale so..no clue how this works.. So.. does a guitarist need to memorize all the different patterns, positions in each key, of each mode, in major and minor? That seems impossible to memorize them all, or is there some better way to go about using them?
@@QJamTracks it was wrong on the chart. Idk if that's something that can be easily corrected or not. I'm sure most people know you ment b2. Great content on your channel!
@@QJamTracks You know what? I have some problems :) maybe You have solutions my problems are: - no matter how long I practice, I don't have enough strength to catch some chords cleanly, pain/fatigue in the hand appears immediately - months of hours spent with the metronome, trying to force speed, do not let me move my fingers faster than the average tempo, I mean legato trill just no no because no :( am I sub human?
I was really enjoying the lesson until I got to the part where the cord scale was being played, and it didn’t sound like what he was playing as far as the way the diagrams were being laid out. I do believe that this lesson could be a little bit more crystal clear.😂 I don’t want to be too critical, but when somebody’s playing a C and the diagram says B-flat, it can kind of mess with your head and when you hear the examples and he’s playing the notes going, for example R-b3-5-b7 but the diagram says R-5-b7-b3 it just creates a discrepancy to the ears and I understand you can play one cord and many different ways but when it comes to teaching especially when you’re trying to get the sound of a scale or record scale and the teacher is showing a diagram of a basic C minor seven and then it’s played either in an inversion or in a different position than the diagram is showing it just makes it a lot harder to learn. And if somebody’s already super good and understands what’s being shown, then it won’t matter but they’re also not gonna need this lesson. If you play a chord in a certain position on a guitar, it should be shown the exact same way in the diagram. that’s just my opinion and if you want people to keep coming back to your channel, it would be better to do it that way.
Hi Christopher. I'm glad you enjoyed at least the first part and I'm glad that you are a subscriber! :) Stil... I'm not teaching how to play chords here. The chords played and written in the example are all root positions and not inversions. Maybe the position where I play the chord idiffers from the tab, but that's not relevant for the sound and theory of the subject that I'm explaining in that part of the video (in my opinion). I don't feel that the video is less clear due to this 'discrepancy' ;).
Melodic minor is natural minor when descending...only melodic minor when ascending. The purpose of melodic minor is to give us a dominant chord in minor modes because minor modes do not have a dominant chord. Harmonic minor does the same thing. Melodic minor is for choirs because its much easier to sing than harmonic minor. Thats why it is natural when descending. Harmonic minor is for instruments. Both scales give us a dominant V7 or vii7 in minor modes. That is why these two scales exist. They are not modes.
The whole notion of “melodic minor only when ascending” is absolute garbage - I’m sure it had its reasoning at some point but you cannot enforce that rule and LIMIT someone’s creativity by saying they’re incorrect (for example, I’m not saying you said that) for using it that way. ALL “parent scales” have modes.
@@willemsgrahpics so you are saying that Bach, Mozart, Verdi, Puccini, and countless others were using the melodic scale wrong? Singing a descending melodic minor is almost impossible for choirs, that's why its been done that way since the beginning of written music. Ill trust the master composers.
It's absolutely true that in the classical era the scale was used only ascending. The reason (as I described in my video about the melodic minor scale itself) for this is the the scale sounds major from the top down and minor from the bottom up. The major sound when descending was unwanted by the composers in that time. Nowadays we use the scale for improvisation and we cannot use different scales for ascending and descending, because that would imply that the accompanying musician should play different chords every time the melodic minor scale is used.
@@QJamTracks that major sound that you hear when ascending is the altered v chord to a dominant V7 that minor modes do not have. Why do you think the descending major sound was unwanted? Because choirs have a hell of a time coming back down when the "key" is in minor. An opera singer can do it but general choir ma n pas cant I get it. You guys want to pedal tone on a mode, thats cool, Any scale is a mode. I was trying to point out why the melodic minor and harmonic minor exist in the first place...Its to create a dominant chord in a minor mode. Cheers.
At 12:39 the chords of the Dorianb2 mode are shown instead of the melodic minor scale. The chords should have been:
CmM7 - Dm7 - Ebmaj7#5 - F7 - G7 - Am7b5 - Bm7b5
Apologies for the inconvenience.
no matter dude , I dont understand shit of this. it's like chinese to me.
What about Dorian b6 ?
Yep, at 11:19 it says Dorian b6 instead of Dorian b2.
Just had a revelation watching this, thank you. The visuals did it for me
Rob you are a natural-born teacher! Love your lessons! Your materials... Fantastic! Thanks a million.
Thank you :)
Top notch editing on this one Rob !
You're one of the few people online that actually knows what they are talking about ❤
Keep up the outstanding work
Rob's presentation is the proof that he's a great teacher!
Dude! I learnt more in that half an hour video than I did in my whole Jazz degree!!! THANK YOU!
That's good to hear :)
Where did you study jazz then lol
@@ValèreGéron Birmingham Conservatoire
Thank you for your continued contribution to the musical community.
Your editing and production are on point as well.
I always appreciate anything featuring knowledge about the Melodic Minor Scale! Thank you!!!
Holy shit... You are Amazing...and melodic minor has eluded me all these years..but with your inspiration..I have some major woodshedding to do..thank you so much... sincerely Alex
Thoughtful analysis thank you
Man, you've compressed so much info in this one video, all explained in an easy to follow easy to understand way. Thank you for a great tutorial, thanks for your love to the guitar community.
Please make a complete course on soloing over out of key chords using all these 21 modes(scales)
thank you for sharing your knowledge
Tremendous job you made here, very instructive Rob, thanks so much for your time and for sharing! excellent examples, illustrations, etc
Great vidéo !!!! Thanks soooo much
Hi Rob, yours is one of the bets music instructional on UA-cam. Thanks a lot. I learn a lot with your lessons and your backing tracks
As usual avery clear, complete and interesting video. I hope that someday you will publish your all ecellent pub lications in several ebooks or a great course.
damn you R becoming the best teacher online so far in this harmonic spiralic galaxy .......this is huge what you're doing m@n 💎
Thank you so much. Your explanation are crystal clear. I think that I will be studying this lesson, as well others of yours for quite sometime.
Thx a lot for this very good tutorial. Could you please confirm at 11:19 i should read Dorian b2 (or b9) instead of Dorian b6 ?
This is truly crystal clear! Loved your cyrstal clear lessons series !
well clearly I suck cuz this is chenese to me.
Rob je bent een held.
Dank je ! :)
Thanks!
Thank you Eric!
12:39 The chord diagrams here have lots of typos or I am confused. Please clarify? First chord should be Cmin7 but it’s Dmin7? NeXT should be a DbMaj7#5 but says EbMaj7#5 it appears that they are all a whole step above how they should have been noted. I’m pretty new to MusicTheory, so I just have to make sure that I’m not missing some thing. And then when I tried to play the second chord after the C minor seven the way it’s being played on the guitar sounds completely different than the way the cord is noted so it sounds like it’s either being played in a different position then the chord diagram shows because when I tried to play it, it sounded like a completely different cord than what I hear with my ear. it would probably be better to play the examples in the same exact position and not in an inversion or something that’s different how the diagram is laid out because when I try to play it exactly like it’s laid out it doesn’t sound like what he’s playing and I have a pretty good ear
Yes that's a error. The chords of the Dorian b2 mode are shown. I must have overwritten the graphic. The chords should have been:
CmM7 - Dm7 - Ebmaj7#5 - F7 - G7 - Am7b5 - Bm7b5
Can’t be clearer! Thnx bro❤
This video is amazing and gives me so much to practice! Simple, easy to follow... AMAZING 👏
It would be great to also have a lesson on melodic minor modes chords progression and soloing in that context.
As always: thanks for the great video that is very insightful
5:45 you show Emaj7#5 on your diagram, but the chord belonging to C melodic minor is Ebmaj7#5.
Thanks for your videos, I enjoy them and have learned quite a lot about theory from you.
Excelente explanation
Great video. Thanks so much! I usually improvise using the modes of the major scale including aeolian/natural minor and sometimes harmonic minor, but have recently wanted to get more use out of the melodic minor - this is helpful, many thanks! :)
Thank you Navinder :)
Hope this channel get very big! You and all guitar students deserve it! God bless!!
Thank you Tim!
Wow just what I needed and I was gonna mention for Pop "Yesterday" and bang there you are!!
Also Eddie Van Halen goes into it at the end of the Tremolo picking section in the second section. From E7 to D Melodic Minor.
But more importantly for me you are explaining the altered mode and others with great examples.
Thanx for the tutorial. I found what I think are a few typos/errors: The chords of the locrian natural 2 scale seem to have the wrong illustration but with the correct voiceover. Also, the melodic minor in Yesterday is D melodic minor (not F melodic minor). You talk about the backdoor dominant, but a backdoor dominant is the dominant a whole step below the tonic, as in IVm-VII7-I.
thank you♥♥♥
Grazie per la preziosa lezione!
Good stuff but during the 11:00 section the Lydian Augmented isn’t correct. You need to sharp the 5th. Also the altered is incorrect. You need to flat the 4th.
so excited for this one!
Thanks Rob, as always a great video, always clear and concise.
Thanks Simon :)
nice teacher n player.
The III chord at 5:40-6:40 seems incorrect. It should be EbMaj7#5.
Indeed. I made a mistake there....
I really enjoy your theory insight and teaching, thanks Rob.
Très satisfait de votre video
A billion of thanks
Your welcome Ignacio :)
Great video, thanks for sharing
Who else is here just to musically nerd out..... ?
YOHH! Over here! 😆 Just love to know how other musos think. Pick there brains ( 🧠 or WoT’s left of them.) Ahh rats. Yeah got this. Picked sum other musos 🧠z. Hee hee hee. 😘🎸👊🏾✨😈
I sat here for an hour and a half and took notes on this.
5:44 I believe there’s a typo here, and it should’ve been E flat instead of E major.
I love this channel. ❤️
this lesson is too awesome! thank you!
Great video once again!
Thanks Zuice ;)
Cool intro solo you crazy Dutchman
Thanks for the tutorials ❤
This "modest melodic minor modes presentation" (27'58'')...
Modest = Merging pedagogically the concepts of secondery dominant , II-V-I cadence and tritone substitution, before connecting the 7 modes (including the supposedly dreary superlocrian) of an overlooked scale in a wonderfully harmonious and logical melody... "Modest", you are, obviously. But this tutorial is outstanding ! (As usual may we say?).
Another great lesson! thank you for sharing your knowledge with us (I'am self-taught person, beginner in guitar playing, so I appreciate it very much). Ofc "Like" :)
Thanks for the video lesson!
You're welcome Jared!
Great lesson, thank you! Is there a typo? Should the 3rd chord be written as an E FLAT maj7#5? Rather than E maj 7#5
Don Mock has a great book on the modes of the melodic minor scale.
11:22 TYPO it should say Dorian b2 NOT Dorian b6
Just a heads up 💪🏼🤘🏼
Indeed... My mistake
I was wondering how a six nine chord on the second degree would sound good with the flat nine in the melody...couldn't this scale also be used over a dominant chord giving it the flat nine the sharp nine and the flat thirteenth?
Magnífico!
Do we gonna have an e-book like in the exotic pentatonic?
Hi Pietro.
Yes for sure :)
Beste Rob, bedankt voor deze video met praktische voorbeelden. Kan ik de backingtrack ergens downloaden om te oefenen?
Hoi Edwin.
Op mijn patreon page kun je de backing tracks downloaden.
www.patreon.com/Qjamtracks
Thanks Rob, is er een minimaal aantal maanden dat je "lid" moet blijven mocht het me niet bevallen? Mvg Edwin Curacao
Hi im slow nice to meet ya. Sometimes i dont think intelligent people can teach slower people because they assume everyone just heres tonic and islikeoh yeahshhh tonic no problem. Ive been playing for EONS and im just starting to get it but barely so people who are confusewd and like what remember this is not rocket science so dont be like me and let your OCD run wild. Also know this guy speaks sophisticated and a beginner is going to be like whattt????? Go to basic theory stuff like this might help you lear4n a scale but to put music into context and apply it you gotta go to basic theory first also learn all the dialog before you play. Hey quick people this message isnt for you youre too smart to comprehend.
What are the common chord progressions on the melodic minor scale?
6:57 wait,but we have also 11 and 13 chords,how about them?
Don't forget about them in next videos ok? :D
Hi Kuku. This video is already more than 30 minutes. And regarding this video is about the modes of the melodic minor scale and not the harmony of a specific scale, taking you through all the extended chords would make this video less efficient. But... no worries :) I will make dedicated videos for each mode in the nearby future with all the extended chords within the mode.
@@QJamTracks excellent :D 13 chords are problematic(for me) because:
13 in one chord = 1 in another chord
c,e,g,a = a,c,e,g
and,if we play c,e,g,b,d,f,a chord,we play whole scale
all 13 chords = whole scale,they all contain the same set of sounds
0:54 It's not F, it is D melodic minor, isn't it?
I thought modes were only of the major scale? All minor scales are also derived form the major scale so..no clue how this works.. So.. does a guitarist need to memorize all the different patterns, positions in each key, of each mode, in major and minor? That seems impossible to memorize them all, or is there some better way to go about using them?
Dorian b6? (Dorian b2)
If I said Dorian b6 it's an error indeed. The characteristic note of the Dorian is that natural six. So it should have been to be Dorian b2.
@@QJamTracks it was wrong on the chart. Idk if that's something that can be easily corrected or not. I'm sure most people know you ment b2.
Great content on your channel!
The third chord is EbMaj7#5 and not Emaj7#5 !!
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@@QJamTracks You know what? I have some problems :)
maybe You have solutions
my problems are:
- no matter how long I practice, I don't have enough strength
to catch some chords cleanly,
pain/fatigue in the hand appears immediately
- months of hours spent with the metronome,
trying to force speed, do not let me move my fingers faster
than the average tempo, I mean legato trill
just no
no because no :(
am I sub human?
P.s. That metal riff is out of control
I was really enjoying the lesson until I got to the part where the cord scale was being played, and it didn’t sound like what he was playing as far as the way the diagrams were being laid out. I do believe that this lesson could be a little bit more crystal clear.😂 I don’t want to be too critical, but when somebody’s playing a C and the diagram says B-flat, it can kind of mess with your head and when you hear the examples and he’s playing the notes going, for example R-b3-5-b7 but the diagram says R-5-b7-b3 it just creates a discrepancy to the ears and I understand you can play one cord and many different ways but when it comes to teaching especially when you’re trying to get the sound of a scale or record scale and the teacher is showing a diagram of a basic C minor seven and then it’s played either in an inversion or in a different position than the diagram is showing it just makes it a lot harder to learn. And if somebody’s already super good and understands what’s being shown, then it won’t matter but they’re also not gonna need this lesson. If you play a chord in a certain position on a guitar, it should be shown the exact same way in the diagram. that’s just my opinion and if you want people to keep coming back to your channel, it would be better to do it that way.
Hi Christopher.
I'm glad you enjoyed at least the first part and I'm glad that you are a subscriber! :) Stil... I'm not teaching how to play chords here. The chords played and written in the example are all root positions and not inversions. Maybe the position where I play the chord idiffers from the tab, but that's not relevant for the sound and theory of the subject that I'm explaining in that part of the video (in my opinion). I don't feel that the video is less clear due to this 'discrepancy' ;).
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Melodic minor is natural minor when descending...only melodic minor when ascending.
The purpose of melodic minor is to give us a dominant chord in minor modes because minor modes do not have a dominant chord.
Harmonic minor does the same thing.
Melodic minor is for choirs because its much easier to sing than harmonic minor. Thats why it is natural when descending.
Harmonic minor is for instruments.
Both scales give us a dominant V7 or vii7 in minor modes.
That is why these two scales exist. They are not modes.
The whole notion of “melodic minor only when ascending” is absolute garbage - I’m sure it had its reasoning at some point but you cannot enforce that rule and LIMIT someone’s creativity by saying they’re incorrect (for example, I’m not saying you said that) for using it that way. ALL “parent scales” have modes.
@@willemsgrahpics so you are saying that Bach, Mozart, Verdi, Puccini, and countless others were using the melodic scale wrong?
Singing a descending melodic minor is almost impossible for choirs, that's why its been done that way since the beginning of written music.
Ill trust the master composers.
It's absolutely true that in the classical era the scale was used only ascending. The reason (as I described in my video about the melodic minor scale itself) for this is the the scale sounds major from the top down and minor from the bottom up. The major sound when descending was unwanted by the composers in that time. Nowadays we use the scale for improvisation and we cannot use different scales for ascending and descending, because that would imply that the accompanying musician should play different chords every time the melodic minor scale is used.
@@QJamTracks that major sound that you hear when ascending is the altered v chord to a dominant V7 that minor modes do not have.
Why do you think the descending major sound was unwanted? Because choirs have a hell of a time coming back down when the "key" is in minor. An opera singer can do it but general choir ma n pas cant
I get it. You guys want to pedal tone on a mode, thats cool, Any scale is a mode.
I was trying to point out why the melodic minor and harmonic minor exist in the first place...Its to create a dominant chord in a minor mode.
Cheers.
Headless guitars are ugly
Bro just talk normal jeez
Sign up for a basic English course, learn some vocabulary and come back. Bro.
Thanks!
Thank you Andy!!