VRR UPDATE: The TV has received an update that added VRR support. Check out the updated results here: www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/a80j-oled#comparison_2188
Just ordered the A80J, was going to order the LG C1 because even though I’m not a gamer, the price of the C1 was nearly $500 less than the A80J. The very next morning Sony dropped the price of the A80J by $400. Needles to say I canceled my order for the C1 and ordered the A80J. I think I will be very happy with this choice. Sony just makes a better quality product and the picture quality is better than the C1.
congrats I just ordered 65" A80J for 1600 Euro black Friday :) andd in HDR highlights its punchier closer to reference monitor as C1 or G1 as well :) due to Sony XR processor; this year Sony nailed it. In near blacks it is cleaner as C1 buttt C1 has more better dark near blacks due to more near blacks calibration controls, generally A80j looks cleaner here anyhow. A80J leads in motion, key picture movie watching features, so nailed mine movie watching target ;) enjoy bro
@@Esignn … It is my opinion but I’ve been buying Sony televisions for 50 years so I have a lot of experience with their product. It’s hard to tell the difference between one television and another made by another company until you really watch them side by side. Comparing the A80J to LG’s C1 I felt the picture quality was better, if I was into gaming I may have chosen the LG because of the 2.1 HDMI ports Sony has 2 while LG had 4.
i was in a very similar situation to you. I was so close to getting the C1 and it was a price difference of $800. Then after speaking with a dealer, I got the good deal where it became only $300 more than the C1, so I got it. Reason I preferred the A80J over the C1 was because I preferred the google tv smart interface over webOS and secondly I like the idea where the A80J can be put in a position where you can fit a soundbar underneath whereas the C1 was not possible.
The fact that the powercord is removable/replaceable makes it an instant pick over the LG C1 to me, I was planning on getting the C1 over the A80J, but not being able to route my cables like I want was enough to make me reconsider
I bought an A80J and a soundbar thinking that a soundbar would always be better than built in tv speakers. The A80J's built in sound system ended up being far better than the soundbar. I'd suggest people to first try out the built in speakers before getting a soundbar because the sound is seriously impressive.
@@lyranlover6904 I bought a htx8500 which was not as good as the tv's speakers. I've since upgraded to a q950a and it has been phenomenal. I'd say if you were to upgrade to a soundbar, get a higher end one since the tv speakers are just as good or even better than a mid-range soundbar.
@@lyranlover6904 I'm not sure. If you don't have the tv yet just see if the tv speakers are good enough for you. My issue with them was that they weren't very bass heavy and there was not a lot of surround, which is why I upgraded to a q950a as it came with a subwoofer and surround rear speakers to fit those shortcomings. The center and left and right channels are very clear and crisp on the tv though, so I'm not sure how much a standalone soundbar could improve that experience. Also, the htx 8500 was a lot more narrow than the width of my TV so it had a much smaller soundstage compared to my TV, whereas the q950a is about as wide as my TV.
The A80J is under the A90J but that doesn't make it a lower end model compared to the A90J. In fact, everything about it is the same except for contrast pro which utilizes a heat sink. The colors have a better white balance than the A80J which has darker colors. Comparing apples to apples. Sony has the most realistic colors because of the X1 processor that's inside every Sony camera used in Hollywood studios. This is how it knows what color to apply to a picture where as LG & Samsung try to estimate. LG has overly dark colors while Samsung has overly bright colors. The only TV that has superior gaming features is LG because of the Nvidia graphics chip sync.
I spoke with a Sony tech yesterday and they confirmed that both the A80J and A90J do have ALLM and VRR support via a firmware upgrade and come out of the box.
I would buy one! I like the option of having it sit flush to the top of a cabinet - although the spec is excellent! Another great review Brandon, thanks.
@rtings , Just a bit of feedback: Turning the processing features off of a Sony is the equivalent of not making use of the gaming features on an LG and saying it's gaming performance is equivalent to a Sony. I can almost guarantee you if you're getting a similar PQ between a C1 and an a80j it's because You're not making use of the processing in an effort to make them look as close as possible. Not showing the full capabilities of each TV is extremely misleading and making the assumption that users don't make use of a processor is just as silly as assuming they aren't using gaming features. Neglecting to say that the Sony is capable of far greater clarity and detail due to more advanced processing isn't a little thing. The Cognitive processor is not a gimmick and it's a significant step up from anything the lg can do. I'm usually the person that friends and family come to for TV recommendations and as much as I love what you guys are doing small things like this are why I often send people elsewhere to see reviews.
Hey Evan! First, thanks for taking the time to share your feedback with us. We can tell you that we're working on an update to our methodology so we can talk more about the upscaling and processing of the different TVs. It's tough to objectively measure, which is why the testing is very limited at this time. We've heard loud and clear from our readers and viewers on this though and we're looking into it as we speak!
@@RTINGSdotcom that's terrific and thank you for your hard work. Sorry in advance for the tldr: While I would agree it's very difficult to objectively evaluate certain aspects of processing quantitatively, the differences between them can be qualitatively discussed. For instance a Cognitive processor much like our own visual system is able to evaluate contrast, tonality, motion and other parameters in a parellel fashion and with that information adust them in relation to each other(in real time with focal zones). This allows for a much more natural adjustment and this explains why the new Sony tvs can be pushed significantly more as far color and clarity without that artificial look that would destroy PQ in previous generations. Sony accurately describes this as increasing immersion in their branding and while it may sound like a gimmick, I can tell you as someone that studied cognition academically, from a perceptive standpoint that is exactly what they are doing. Obviously you would want to simplify this and not use my technical jargon, but it allows you to bypass the more subjective aspects of evaluating PQ by simply stating factually relevant info.
And again thank you for your hard work and for responding to my feedback. Knowing you care that much, makes me far more comfortable in recommending your reviews to friends and family in the future!
@@giotorres9848 for sure it is the a80j has the xr processor and its outstanding so much detail the a90j has made me be surprised by 4k again I've never seen a processor add detail in 4k like this the c1 I had for 2 weeks didn't do this it wasn't this sharp or detailed it's insane the a80j and a90j look identical in processing and actually very similar overall with the a90j only being slightly brighter legit that's the only difference in the image the a80j has an absolutely stunning image and I can't see buying an lg over it for movies
@@justinhalen2126 yeah we know this lol but something people aren't showing is the c1 has banding issues and it doesn't have to be in 4k 120hz to get it go watch KG video but yes the sony a80j and a90j have issues in 4k 120hz hdr with banding but it comes down to the mediatek soc and Sony has there daughterboard SOC working with it so they may be able to update it and fix the issues since it's clearly not the panel as if it was it would have banding issues at all times not just 4k 120hz hdr but its only when it's fed a certain signal so from what we hear it's fixable
@@justinhalen2126 you have to think tho Andre N may not game so he may not of experienced the banding issues if he hasn't used 4k 120hz hdr me I have seen it on my a90j luckily its not to extreme
Just got an A80J on sale. Best bang for the buck Sony OLED. I prefer the glossy finish of the A90J but it's certainly not worth the price jump just for that.
@@Jordanfiend361 No doubt the A90J is probably the best TV available right now but it cost about 65% more than the same size A80J. It's better but not 65% better. I realize that's always the case when you go from 2nd best to best but not everyone is going to be willing to pay 65% more for maybe a 5% increase in performance. So far I'm enjoying the hell out of the A80J. Now I have an awesome t.v. and an extra $1,100 or so.
I experienced both lg c1 and a80j side by side in showroom...and sony was clearly the winner in regards to both audio and picture quality. The salesman displayed a pic of moon on both the TVs at the same time....lg c1 lacked detail and the moon just looked like a light bulb...but sony showed amazing detailing. Each and every crater of moon was visible very clearly on a80j. I strongly recommend a80j for any1 who wants best oled experience.
Totally agree, we were undecided between the two and asked to watch the same test content they use in the showrooms on each TV. It was obvious the A80J was the better picture.
I have the 65 inch A80J and am blown away at how good this TV looks and performs. It's paired with a PS5 and home theater system. Absolutely incredible. No banding, no dirty screen. Also, RTINGS didn't mention that Sony's 2021 TV's have a special relationship with the PS5 and when connected, introduces ALLM and VRR for the PS5.
@@patrickrk44 Well, he said half of it, which is better than nothing. He said ALLM works with PS5, but he said there's no VRR right now. He's technically right about VRR, except Sony implements a version of VRR with the PS5, and he didn't mention that. All good though.
@@GraveUypo it is well known that the PS5 and 2021 Sony TVs have a special relationship. However, since the features won't work with PC or other consoles, they can't advertise those features.
Man, I guess I'm just a layman, but the banding "issues" are incredibly minor to me with this TV. To me, that's for the truly obsessive to focus on. Thanks for pointing it out all the same.
You forgot to mention that the 77” model is the same gloss finish as the a90j so there are no glare issues. I feel this hurt your rating in the overall A80J model.
No… Guys listen.. I’ve had this tv for 2 days now. And it is not so great as these youtube channels makes it out to be. 1. First of all, It seriously lags brightness/shadow controls. It’s super dark, and is clearly crushing blacks. And the brightness setting is at MAX by default, so you can’t turn that up. You will have to rely on turning up the dark areas by cranking up the gamma setting, and even that isn’t enough to bring back the details in the shadows. Other settings like black level will just turn the black into grey, and not bring back the details. Turning all these shadow setting up will also brightn up the highlights. I mean, it looks good and all, but it lack control over the shadow parts, and I don’t want to turn on all kinds of dynamic post processing… I had much more control over my old LG OLED from 2016. 2. Another thing is the hdr tone mapping. Somtimes it looks better ON, other times it looks worse, and it is also a dynamic scene by scenes post process that I would recommend leaving off, even though this makes the image much dimmer. 3. The peak illuminance only has 3 settings, and I suppose this is the setting for HDR brightness, again, lack of control, and is this a pr scenes dynamic effects? I don’t know.. This HAS to be ON though, as that is the only way to get proper brightness for the HDR. 4. The nexflix calibrated mode, puts a green/orange tint on everything making it look like a very warm color setting. Turn off at all costs. 5. The auto PS5 calibration also ruins the image on the PS5, as HDTVTEST is talking about. 6. It keeps loosing internet connection, making netflix stop and buffer very often. 7. And also. The audio. Please stop saying that you won’t need a soundbar with this tv. The sound is not a lot better than my 2016 tv, and build in subwoofer? I honestly don’t hear it. So guys, don’t believe all this promotional talk. It’s not like that in real life. 8. The tv can NOT play video files probably from a USB, it stutters, and often the tv crashes just by browsing stuff on the usb. I had to turn the tv off many times because it crashed. And often it came back on with a 50% grey empty screen, then I had to turn it off again. Horrible experience.. When that is said, I downloaded the MX player, and used that for browing and watching USB media, and that works like a charm 👌 I have only had this tv for two days, and NONE of the reviews are talking about these problems, and I have watched them all before buying this tv. I’m not hating this tv, I had LG before, but that tv I kind of didn’t like, it also had a ton of problems, so I’m not a fanboy or out just to spread hate. I will keep this tv, because it was on sale, and I wanted something else than LG. And this has all the apps and features I need.. I’m just saying, be aware, it’s not the holy grail as these channels makes it out to be. Feel free to ask me about this tv 🙂
Great video review, thanks a lot guys! ^^ I'm still debating whether or not to buy this next month (mostly for gaming but also watching Netflix/movies), I've read that they've now incorporated VRR with an update so should be a better gaming experience, but those weird 1440p issues had me worried, especially since I mostly play on the Xbox and wanted to use the 120 fps option in the games that support it.
Hey guys you are doing a great job. Keep it up guys. I have a question, when will 2021 monitors come to market? I am waiting to buy one type c monitor for my Mac.
If you don’t game (or if you only plan to use it with the PS5), this is better than the C1. Sony’s picture processing does miracles for movies, TV, and sports.
@@TyroneLT Vincent hasn’t reviewed the A80J, but he said in the A90J vs G1 video that both brands deliver movies without judder, and Sony is less prone to micro stutter in TV
The banding in games skies is also in 60hz and on other TVs (LG OLEDs, Samsung KS8000) so can you check other TVs and see if it's an issue either with the console or the games themselves? I don't currently have other TVs other than those to test. I used Forza Horizon 4 on Xbox Series X looking at a bright clear sky. Also smooth gradation on medium cleans it up nicely without too much detail loss.
Is there any way to test depth generation? For some reason the sony oleds just have a way of creating more dimensionality to an image compared to others
@@Lordbugbug yes. While lg often looks good in color vibrance, sony just bests all brands when it comes to that window effect in their oleds and the processor is 100% the reason why
I love that you actually demonstrate the answers in the end and actually show us. Thank you. As for this year's Sony models, I am disappointed they don't take full advantage of PS5. This is the second model release year for Sony and they still lack all PS5 features while other TV companies fully support PS5. I guess I'll wait till next year before buying a Sony TV to see if they finally do full PS5 support or not.
@@shmookins VVR is on the way I’m, I do have the a80j, I mainly use it for streaming tv shows and movies, but will game on it a bit. Now I’m finding out that to use 4K 120fps I’ll need a 100 mbps. Will the Xbox be the better console once vet is added? I’m so lost about this stuff could you please elaborate?
@@dustinsharpe1049 The thing is, VRR either limits or completely shuts down some of the TV features like local dimming, Dolby Vision, and what not. I don't know of any TV that does VRR while maintaining all the TV's features. Maybe one of the LGs. _Maybe_. VRR is still new. Sony doesn't even have the update yet for their latest flagship LCD model. It will come at the end of Jan. 2022. But I feel it will be the same as on their current models that just got the VRR software update. As for Xbox, it isn't about the consoles themselves as far as I'm aware. I think it is all on the TV to run it properly. Also, the MediaTek TV chip is a bottleneck. Sony uses those. Samsung and LG use their own chip but they still have their own limitations. Now, this isn't a big deal, really. You won't even notice anything unless you know what to look for and have different TVs side by side. You have the best TV purchase and you should fully enjoy it. It's just that personally, buying a TV is a big purchase for me, and I find it odd that the company that makes PS5 and TVs can't simply be the best option in gaming hands down. They are getting better though. The latest update has some unique PS5 features that you only get if you have a compatible Sony TV and a PS5 which is something. By the way, I was aiming on getting the 65: X95J myself. But following its news closely, I got disappointed by a thousand cuts. Now I'll wait for the X96J's successor next year- unless Sony doesn't change anything for the 2022 models. We'll know what Sony and the rest of the TV makers do for their 2022 models at CES on Jan. 5th. Fingers crossed.
@@shmookins Thank you for the detailed reply, I bought my xr a80j today and so far I think it’s an amazing TV, yeah I’m not sure 4K gameplay with 120 FPS will be optimal without losing out on some features, I’m just glad to hear that I got a pretty decent TV for gaming as well as viewing TV shows and stuff like that. I’m really new to this stuff. I’ll probably go for a PS5 since it seems to be more compatible with the TV I have. Not to mention I believe that some of these TVs really do have imperceivable Features that we can’t even really admire for the extra money not just visually either. It’s really easy to get lost in specs and stuff like that when in reality if a TV with Shown to you with no labels compared to a higher end model in some cases there’s a decent chance you wouldn’t be able to be able to tell the difference from what I understand.
Great review, Brandon!...Just received my 77" Sony A80J and looks spectacular!...Connected an Apple m1 Mac mini with text being detailed... Question: What changes should one make to prevent burn-in on the A80J?
Don't worry about burn-in, you have to be watching the same thing (such as a channel with the ID logo in the top corner) for hundreds of hours non-stop, for it ever to become an issue. It's so unlikely I don't know why they even mention it at all.
Thank you for the review. I hope you will start adding system memory as a spec to review. Many of these smart TVs have low available system memory. We are paying a ton of money and yet we cannot add a decent number of apps because they don’t give us adequate storage space. It would not take much for them to give us extra storage space. We should not have to resort to things like USB drives.
I have a question. On your tv settings for like the c9 and cx you always suggest peak brightness to be off for SDR. Why now you suggest peak brightness to high for SDR for the C1 and a80j? I know you guys buy your own tvs to review but it would be amazing to see a review of the 77 inch c1 with the new evo panel even without the hack. Maybe the evo panel on the c1 you reviewed would fix the bad out of the box calibration
Hi, first things first. Excelente work, priceless when choosing a device. My suggestion on TVs, please include a test of Internet speed wireless and on cable. Esay to set up and show and so important these days.
If you're in a bright room, OLED TVs might not be bright enough to overcome the glare. The Samsung QN90A is the best non-OLED alternative we've tested so far this year.
@@silentsnake1800 Read that too, but nothing official, and no reviews that I’ve seen mention this. I bought the 77” A80J two days ago so hoping that this rumor turns out to be true.
you woudn't be able to see how it looks otherwise becasue you're watching this video through not only a compressed video on the internet, but also another screen.
Good day, guys! I really need your advise. Now I am choosing between X90J and A80J. Led and Oled. And A80J costs on 850$ more in my country. It is worth? Will Oled give me the other level of experience or there will not be a big difference?
Hi I have same problem I waiting for X95J but when I watched A80J I was shocked how crispy the picture is.Colours and blacks are amazing.Here in UK X95J LED 75 inch will cost £3500 A80J 77 inch cost £3999 I think the choice is pretty clear for me now.OLED all the way. Go to your local store and check once again A80J OLED and X90J LED and I believe you will choose OLED like me.😉
In your opinion, what 2021 TV (OLED or non-OLED) is the BEST (regardless of price) for watching hockey? What TV has the BEST plasma-like motion? Thank you.
14:55 honestly, does this look like similar contrast to you guys? I know the the test data shows so, but the extent of difference these indicator images show is too big.
One thing to note is that we're taking these pictures with a camera and we do our best to make sure they're done in a consistent way so they're more comparable, but it's not a more accurate way to determine the contrast than the measurements we take. We take the pictures though in case people want to see them and compare for themselves.
Hey Paul! For a very bright room, you may want to avoid an OLED TV. Because they can't get as bright as other TVs, in a bright room they might look washed out. The Samsung QN90A might be a good alternative to consider though! It's the best non-OLED TV we've tested so far.
@@RTINGSdotcom thanks so much for your response….I’ll check out that Samsung…..I’m sure glad I didn’t go ahead with a OLED …anyone you might suggest for this in the Oakville, Ontario area. Thanks again.
There both excellent TVs. The LG has more gaming features like lower input lag and VRR support, but the Sony should get VRR in a future firmware update. The LG has the new evo panel, allowing it to get brighter in HDR, but the Sony still gets a bit brighter in SDR. They're built differently as the LG is meant to sit flush against a wall and comes with a dedicated wall mount, while the Sony is a more typical TV that comes with a stand.
We did a big test on this which you can read more about here: www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test Basically though, as long as you avoid static content, we don't expect burn-in to be an issue.
Enjoyable review, but having bought one of these sets recently I am seriously baffled at the obsession you seem to have with brightness, almost suggesting that it's a really dim screen. Reflections are not a problems at all unless you place it opposite a window and are watching with sunlight coming directly through the window - but that's the same with any TV, and almost nobody would do that. If you're using it in a room with several large strip lights, like an office environment - not the sort of natural environment that most people watch TV in - you might have a problem although that could describe the showroom we first viewed it in, and it wasn't a problem in there. But in your average living room, even with bright lamps or ceiling lights you won't have any problems, which isn't the impression your review gives, especially because of the number of times you repeat it. I really think you're doing the manufacturers a disservice here, and overstating a potential problem that in most circumstances doesn't even exist.
@@cloud6501 No problem at all. There are various brightness/colour controls and a light monitor too which helps a lot. It would be perfect for any room where there are no bright lights at all. Also worth a mention is the upscaling, which it handles superbly well. I was a little concerned that HD broadcasts wouldn't look so good on a larger screen (our previous set was 42", this one is 55") but it handles them extremely well and everything looks much sharper than the old set. I was a little unsure at first as there are several 4K sets around that are much cheaper, but I've been really impressed with the Sony. Worth every penny.
In this case, we’d recommend checking out our comparison between both models so you can see which is best in the areas that are important to you. www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-a80j-oled-vs-lg-c2-oled/21563/31229?usage=1&threshold=0.10 If it’s still unclear or you have specific questions though, feel free to follow up!
It depends on a few different factors, including what size of TV you want and your budget. But TVs that get bright enough to overcome glare are what you want to look for. We made you a custom table tool, but feel free to customize it further with any other details you want to consider to find the best option for you: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/59039
I'm looking for a 4k eye-friendly TV. Can you adjust the Sony A80J to be eye-friendly? I read that OLED TVs can get really bright, to the extent that it hurts your eyes.
We don't have any sort of test for how loud a TV is, but we do test the frequency response and distortion. Overall, the internal speakers are good. There's a lot of distortion at the TV's max volume, but it's much better at moderate volume levels. However, distortion depends on the content and not everyone can hear it. Another factor could be the room you use it in and how far away you sit. If it's an open room and you're further away, a soundbar could be a better option.
I see in a few reviews that this tv has an issue - image retention,but it does goes off after a minute or two. does it cause any problem in future cause I want to buy this.
Can't believe Sony is still stringing people along on VRR after like a year. Still haven't even given a window for release. Not sure they are to be trusted at this point. I didn't buy a Series X to only use "most of" the features. The C1 still seems like the better buy, especially considering it's cheaper.
If you sre a gamer then I can agree but if you are an image purist or a movie enthusiast then the a80j and a90j are the way to go but if you are even a casual gamer or just game on the ps5 then the sony is still a great choice as that won't get vrr until the tvs do lol
i have the 65 with a new series x. and gaming is great. i wish you guy would do a settings adjustment for us. i think the black scenes are a bit too black.
I'm confused to which one to get now, the C1 or A80J, I do plan on gaming on it but I'm not an obsessed gamer, I do like games like Assassin's Creed. Any advice??
The Sony A80J OLED and the LG C1 OLED are amazing TVs capable of turning pixels off individually to produce deep inky blacks with a near-infinite contrast ratio. You can't go wrong with either, but they do have some differences. The LG offers a bit more for gamers, with two more HDMI 2.1 ports than the Sony and it has lower input lag. The Sony, however, has better out-of-the-box accuracy, although this can vary from unit to unit. That said, it may help to check out this comparison, but honestly, you'll be happy either way! www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-c1-oled-vs-sony-a80j-oled/21421/21563?usage=1&threshold=0.10
Yes the TV is 120hz panel so it does support 120hz natively. Apple Tv is currently limited to 60hz though. Are you concerned about something in particular?
Hi man! Sometimes while playing or watching movies on my Sony a80j, the bezels (sometimes the left side and sometimes right side, but not both at the same time) become bigger, and when I return to the Home Menu the screen returns normal, do you think it is normal?
Hey! If you're comparing the X900H to the X80J, the X900H is the better TV. The X900H uses a VA panel with a high contrast ratio and full-array local dimming, gets brighter and has more features, and has a slightly faster response time. It also has two HDMI 2.1 ports if you plan on gaming.
Perhaps the A8H shows as highly rated based on the time period of its review, but the A80J is clearly MUCH better than the A8H and if they were reviewed side-by-side today the review could reflect that truth. I've seen both side by side and love my 77" A80J!
Hey! Just to be clear, overall both TVs got an 8.8 Mixed Usage score. The biggest difference between the two TVs though, is that the A90J has two HDMI 2.1 ports, which is great if you plan on using it for the latest gaming consoles, while the A8H doesn't have any. Otherwise, they both deliver the same exceptional picture quality and performance that most OLEDs do, thanks to their ability to turn off individual pixels and their near-instantaneous response times.
Really need help picking out a tv. I am debating between this one and the new Samsung QN90A. I use it for movies and streaming. I am coming from a LG oled that has a burnout
So the QN90A is the best non-OLED TV we have tested. If you're anxious about going back to an OLED, it would be the best choice. If you really liked the last OLED TV you had though, the A80J would be a great option and is what we consider to be the better TV overall.
Great review, a bit disappointed in the hdr. Just ordered a 65” model for 2299€ with a 5 year guarentee.,the 77” was 3700€. Next year maybe… the c1 65” was 400€ more!
A private retailer is selling this tv (55in) for $1,150 CAD but it has a scuff mark that is noticeable when the tv is off but not when it's on. Should I consider getting this TV at that price with the minor cosmetic mark? Thanks!
If the room you will use it in has moderate or dark lighting conditions, go with the A80J. If you're in a bright or sunny room, it might have trouble overcoming the glare. www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-a80j-oled-vs-sony-x85j/21563/21695?usage=11&threshold=0.10
My parents have 50X85J for a few days. Not a bad TV, but sound is very crappy (tin can like sound with tendency to hiss) and even I have set it to minimum brightness/backligt I would prefer possibility to dim it more (for evening conditions). Image can be very nice for good signal (TV is used for common broadcasting - a few fullHD, mostly HD720). Brighter areas have tendency to look washed out and to have some kind of pastel look (but it's probably problem of LCD VA panels). So I want to try OLED - but I'm not sure it will solve those described flaws of X85J ? And from some reviews it look A80J has more bluish/cold color temperature which I really hate. I prefer warmer temperature, more pleasant for eyes and more natural than articifal blue tint.
I’ve just purchased the 55”A80j and Sonos arc. With the stand in the soundbar position, it doesn’t fit between the legs but I’ve actually stood it on top of the legs. There’s just enough of a gap so it doesn’t foul the screen. It goes slightly above the bezel and maybe a few mm of the screen but nothing at all noticeable, it actually looks like it was made to fit if I’m honest.
It really depends on your needs! If you're in a darker room, the OLED is probably the way to go. If you're in a room that is very bright, you might want to go with the QN90A as it can get much brighter and can overcome glare.
Does it have freesat? There is no digital reception in my area and need freesat. Satellite tvs are basically useless when the satellite tuner just tunes the tv guide unorganised
How easy or complicated is to get neutral or warmer color temperature instead of this cold blue one ? Only manualy, without professional calibration. Parents 50X85J looks very neutral, no problem with tendency to be cold / blue. But while it has some flaws (tendency to wash out brighter colors a bit or to have some "pastel" hue, too bright even with brightnes set to min) I'm looking forward A83J. But I'm afraid there can be another, maybe more annoying flaws (for significantly higher price ..).
Is there any semi gloss panel for the a80j? If not whats the best 75+ inch semi gloss panel tv for 2021? I checked out the samsung mini led but its too glossy. I intend to place it in the living room with lots of big windows and light.
Of the 2021 TVs we reviewed so far, the Samsung QN90A is the brightest. The brightest non-Samsung so far is the Hisense U8G! If you want to see the other options, check this out: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/55459
VRR UPDATE: The TV has received an update that added VRR support. Check out the updated results here: www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/a80j-oled#comparison_2188
Agregaron 4K 120hz en Dolby Vision??? 13:13 Saludos
The extra question section at the end is excellent ! Great job as always guys!
I am 61years of age. buy tv ever 10 years
best dam review I've ever seen no sugar coating it
They are very professional! Best reviewers by a far margin! If reach 61 years i also want to buy tvs every ten years :)
I’ve had the same tv in my living room since 2011 so ten years for me too thinking of upgrading to this set
Just ordered the A80J, was going to order the LG C1 because even though I’m not a gamer, the price of the C1 was nearly $500 less than the A80J. The very next morning Sony dropped the price of the A80J by $400. Needles to say I canceled my order for the C1 and ordered the A80J. I think I will be very happy with this choice. Sony just makes a better quality product and the picture quality is better than the C1.
congrats I just ordered 65" A80J for 1600 Euro black Friday :) andd in HDR highlights its punchier closer to reference monitor as C1 or G1 as well :) due to Sony XR processor; this year Sony nailed it. In near blacks it is cleaner as C1 buttt C1 has more better dark near blacks due to more near blacks calibration controls, generally A80j looks cleaner here anyhow. A80J leads in motion, key picture movie watching features, so nailed mine movie watching target ;) enjoy bro
In your opinion.
@@Esignn … It is my opinion but I’ve been buying Sony televisions for 50 years so I have a lot of experience with their product. It’s hard to tell the difference between one television and another made by another company until you really watch them side by side. Comparing the A80J to LG’s C1 I felt the picture quality was better, if I was into gaming I may have chosen the LG because of the 2.1 HDMI ports Sony has 2 while LG had 4.
@@Esignn it’s not just his opinion, it’s a fact that the a80j is overall better than the c1 but the c1 leads when it come to gaming
i was in a very similar situation to you. I was so close to getting the C1 and it was a price difference of $800. Then after speaking with a dealer, I got the good deal where it became only $300 more than the C1, so I got it. Reason I preferred the A80J over the C1 was because I preferred the google tv smart interface over webOS and secondly I like the idea where the A80J can be put in a position where you can fit a soundbar underneath whereas the C1 was not possible.
The fact that the powercord is removable/replaceable makes it an instant pick over the LG C1 to me, I was planning on getting the C1 over the A80J, but not being able to route my cables like I want was enough to make me reconsider
I agree, that makes no sense for cable management. Why would they omit even a small plastic ring for a clothes hanger.
the work you do and the help you provide for consumers is so valuable… thank you
I bought an A80J and a soundbar thinking that a soundbar would always be better than built in tv speakers. The A80J's built in sound system ended up being far better than the soundbar. I'd suggest people to first try out the built in speakers before getting a soundbar because the sound is seriously impressive.
What kind of sound bar? I was planning to get a sonos beam gen 2 with it
@@lyranlover6904 I bought a htx8500 which was not as good as the tv's speakers. I've since upgraded to a q950a and it has been phenomenal. I'd say if you were to upgrade to a soundbar, get a higher end one since the tv speakers are just as good or even better than a mid-range soundbar.
@@biohazardousbacon dang really - i was planning to buy a sonos beam gen 2- do you think that will be better than the tv speakers
@@biohazardousbacon dang
@@lyranlover6904 I'm not sure. If you don't have the tv yet just see if the tv speakers are good enough for you. My issue with them was that they weren't very bass heavy and there was not a lot of surround, which is why I upgraded to a q950a as it came with a subwoofer and surround rear speakers to fit those shortcomings. The center and left and right channels are very clear and crisp on the tv though, so I'm not sure how much a standalone soundbar could improve that experience. Also, the htx 8500 was a lot more narrow than the width of my TV so it had a much smaller soundstage compared to my TV, whereas the q950a is about as wide as my TV.
The A80J is under the A90J but that doesn't make it a lower end model compared to the A90J. In fact, everything about it is the same except for contrast pro which utilizes a heat sink. The colors have a better white balance than the A80J which has darker colors. Comparing apples to apples. Sony has the most realistic colors because of the X1 processor that's inside every Sony camera used in Hollywood studios. This is how it knows what color to apply to a picture where as LG & Samsung try to estimate. LG has overly dark colors while Samsung has overly bright colors. The only TV that has superior gaming features is LG because of the Nvidia graphics chip sync.
I spoke with a Sony tech yesterday and they confirmed that both the A80J and A90J do have ALLM and VRR support via a firmware upgrade and come out of the box.
They also fixed the 120hz 4K banding.
VRR is pretty shoddy implimentation on the Sony's, but I suspect they'll keep working on it.
@@interdimensionalsteve8172 I think you are referring to VRR firmware upgrade for non OLED panels which caused issues. Not applicable to OLED.
@@jasondecourcy9611 Yes, it caused issues on the 900H but I haven't heard practically anyone complain about issues with the patch on the OLEDs.
I would buy one! I like the option of having it sit flush to the top of a cabinet - although the spec is excellent! Another great review Brandon, thanks.
@rtings , Just a bit of feedback: Turning the processing features off of a Sony is the equivalent of not making use of the gaming features on an LG and saying it's gaming performance is equivalent to a Sony. I can almost guarantee you if you're getting a similar PQ between a C1 and an a80j it's because You're not making use of the processing in an effort to make them look as close as possible.
Not showing the full capabilities of each TV is extremely misleading and making the assumption that users don't make use of a processor is just as silly as assuming they aren't using gaming features. Neglecting to say that the Sony is capable of far greater clarity and detail due to more advanced processing isn't a little thing. The Cognitive processor is not a gimmick and it's a significant step up from anything the lg can do.
I'm usually the person that friends and family come to for TV recommendations and as much as I love what you guys are doing small things like this are why I often send people elsewhere to see reviews.
Hey Evan!
First, thanks for taking the time to share your feedback with us. We can tell you that we're working on an update to our methodology so we can talk more about the upscaling and processing of the different TVs. It's tough to objectively measure, which is why the testing is very limited at this time. We've heard loud and clear from our readers and viewers on this though and we're looking into it as we speak!
@@RTINGSdotcom that's terrific and thank you for your hard work. Sorry in advance for the tldr:
While I would agree it's very difficult to objectively evaluate certain aspects of processing quantitatively, the differences between them can be qualitatively discussed.
For instance a Cognitive processor much like our own visual system is able to evaluate contrast, tonality, motion and other parameters in a parellel fashion and with that information adust them in relation to each other(in real time with focal zones).
This allows for a much more natural adjustment and this explains why the new Sony tvs can be pushed significantly more as far color and clarity without that artificial look that would destroy PQ in previous generations.
Sony accurately describes this as increasing immersion in their branding and while it may sound like a gimmick, I can tell you as someone that studied cognition academically, from a perceptive standpoint that is exactly what they are doing.
Obviously you would want to simplify this and not use my technical jargon, but it allows you to bypass the more subjective aspects of evaluating PQ by simply stating factually relevant info.
And again thank you for your hard work and for responding to my feedback. Knowing you care that much, makes me far more comfortable in recommending your reviews to friends and family in the future!
We love to get this kind of feedback! We will pass on your comments and suggestions to our Testing Development team directly :)
Absolutely spot on
The stand is a big advantage over the 90 , much more versatile
Will save me money over buying a new tv stand
Love your reviews - Are you guys going to review the Sony x95j soon?
It's a popular model on our Suggestion Tool: www.rtings.com/tv/suggestions
If there is enough interest, we will buy and test it for sure :)
I have the 77 inch. And it's flawless no banding or dirty screen effect. Very happy and the glossy screen is much nicer.😬
i have my gaming tv already the q90t now i want a tv just for movie and tv watching is the a80j a better choice for that over lg c1 or cx??
@@giotorres9848 for sure it is the a80j has the xr processor and its outstanding so much detail the a90j has made me be surprised by 4k again I've never seen a processor add detail in 4k like this the c1 I had for 2 weeks didn't do this it wasn't this sharp or detailed it's insane the a80j and a90j look identical in processing and actually very similar overall with the a90j only being slightly brighter legit that's the only difference in the image the a80j has an absolutely stunning image and I can't see buying an lg over it for movies
he literally just showed it has a banding problem with 4k120hz hdr content...
@@justinhalen2126 yeah we know this lol but something people aren't showing is the c1 has banding issues and it doesn't have to be in 4k 120hz to get it go watch KG video but yes the sony a80j and a90j have issues in 4k 120hz hdr with banding but it comes down to the mediatek soc and Sony has there daughterboard SOC working with it so they may be able to update it and fix the issues since it's clearly not the panel as if it was it would have banding issues at all times not just 4k 120hz hdr but its only when it's fed a certain signal so from what we hear it's fixable
@@justinhalen2126 you have to think tho Andre N may not game so he may not of experienced the banding issues if he hasn't used 4k 120hz hdr me I have seen it on my a90j luckily its not to extreme
Just got an A80J on sale. Best bang for the buck Sony OLED. I prefer the glossy finish of the A90J but it's certainly not worth the price jump just for that.
Well that’s not all your getting for that price jump. A90j worth every penny.
@@Jordanfiend361 No doubt the A90J is probably the best TV available right now but it cost about 65% more than the same size A80J. It's better but not 65% better. I realize that's always the case when you go from 2nd best to best but not everyone is going to be willing to pay 65% more for maybe a 5% increase in performance. So far I'm enjoying the hell out of the A80J. Now I have an awesome t.v. and an extra $1,100 or so.
I experienced both lg c1 and a80j side by side in showroom...and sony was clearly the winner in regards to both audio and picture quality.
The salesman displayed a pic of moon on both the TVs at the same time....lg c1 lacked detail and the moon just looked like a light bulb...but sony showed amazing detailing.
Each and every crater of moon was visible very clearly on a80j.
I strongly recommend a80j for any1 who wants best oled experience.
Totally agree, we were undecided between the two and asked to watch the same test content they use in the showrooms on each TV. It was obvious the A80J was the better picture.
Love this kind of detailed in depth reviews.
I have the 65 inch A80J and am blown away at how good this TV looks and performs. It's paired with a PS5 and home theater system. Absolutely incredible. No banding, no dirty screen. Also, RTINGS didn't mention that Sony's 2021 TV's have a special relationship with the PS5 and when connected, introduces ALLM and VRR for the PS5.
Umm yes he did. 13:20
@@patrickrk44 Well, he said half of it, which is better than nothing. He said ALLM works with PS5, but he said there's no VRR right now. He's technically right about VRR, except Sony implements a version of VRR with the PS5, and he didn't mention that. All good though.
Thanks for sharing! Have you watched any hockey on it? I’m curious how the brightness is?
what are you even talking about? neither the tv or the ps5 support vrr (yet? hopefully)
@@GraveUypo it is well known that the PS5 and 2021 Sony TVs have a special relationship. However, since the features won't work with PC or other consoles, they can't advertise those features.
Man, I guess I'm just a layman, but the banding "issues" are incredibly minor to me with this TV. To me, that's for the truly obsessive to focus on. Thanks for pointing it out all the same.
Well, how good of a panel you get seems to be the luck of the draw.
You forgot to mention that the 77” model is the same gloss finish as the a90j so there are no glare issues. I feel this hurt your rating in the overall A80J model.
Yeah it’s a shame. The 65 inch is horrible in a average lighting room.
What did you mean by burning? I thought this is a thing of the past since Sony has made improvements to address this.
Thank you for your in depth reviews
Just bought one from BB. Thanks to your excellent information.
I bought it yesterday.. Waiting for the delivery
No… Guys listen..
I’ve had this tv for 2 days now. And it is not so great as these youtube channels makes it out to be.
1.
First of all, It seriously lags brightness/shadow controls. It’s super dark, and is clearly crushing blacks. And the brightness setting is at MAX by default, so you can’t turn that up. You will have to rely on turning up the dark areas by cranking up the gamma setting, and even that isn’t enough to bring back the details in the shadows. Other settings like black level will just turn the black into grey, and not bring back the details.
Turning all these shadow setting up will also brightn up the highlights. I mean, it looks good and all, but it lack control over the shadow parts, and I don’t want to turn on all kinds of dynamic post processing… I had much more control over my old LG OLED from 2016.
2.
Another thing is the hdr tone mapping. Somtimes it looks better ON, other times it looks worse, and it is also a dynamic scene by scenes post process that I would recommend leaving off, even though this makes the image much dimmer.
3.
The peak illuminance only has 3 settings, and I suppose this is the setting for HDR brightness, again, lack of control, and is this a pr scenes dynamic effects? I don’t know.. This HAS to be ON though, as that is the only way to get proper brightness for the HDR.
4.
The nexflix calibrated mode, puts a green/orange tint on everything making it look like a very warm color setting. Turn off at all costs.
5.
The auto PS5 calibration also ruins the image on the PS5, as HDTVTEST is talking about.
6.
It keeps loosing internet connection, making netflix stop and buffer very often.
7. And also. The audio. Please stop saying that you won’t need a soundbar with this tv. The sound is not a lot better than my 2016 tv, and build in subwoofer? I honestly don’t hear it. So guys, don’t believe all this promotional talk. It’s not like that in real life.
8.
The tv can NOT play video files probably from a USB, it stutters, and often the tv crashes just by browsing stuff on the usb. I had to turn the tv off many times because it crashed. And often it came back on with a 50% grey empty screen, then I had to turn it off again. Horrible experience..
When that is said, I downloaded the MX player, and used that for browing and watching USB media, and that works like a charm 👌
I have only had this tv for two days, and NONE of the reviews are talking about these problems, and I have watched them all before buying this tv.
I’m not hating this tv, I had LG before, but that tv I kind of didn’t like, it also had a ton of problems, so I’m not a fanboy or out just to spread hate. I will keep this tv, because it was on sale, and I wanted something else than LG. And this has all the apps and features I need..
I’m just saying, be aware, it’s not the holy grail as these channels makes it out to be.
Feel free to ask me about this tv 🙂
Great video review, thanks a lot guys! ^^ I'm still debating whether or not to buy this next month (mostly for gaming but also watching Netflix/movies), I've read that they've now incorporated VRR with an update so should be a better gaming experience, but those weird 1440p issues had me worried, especially since I mostly play on the Xbox and wanted to use the 120 fps option in the games that support it.
Hey guys you are doing a great job. Keep it up guys.
I have a question, when will 2021 monitors come to market? I am waiting to buy one type c monitor for my Mac.
If you don’t game (or if you only plan to use it with the PS5), this is better than the C1. Sony’s picture processing does miracles for movies, TV, and sports.
What about motion? HDTVTest mentioned that to be not as good as the C1. That's for movies and video games.
Yeah the picture processing is very impressive
@@TyroneLT Vincent hasn’t reviewed the A80J, but he said in the A90J vs G1 video that both brands deliver movies without judder, and Sony is less prone to micro stutter in TV
I have a ps5 so I’ll probably go the c1, what do you think
0:52 that hotel lobby? Where us it?
I recognize it but can't remember.
The banding in games skies is also in 60hz and on other TVs (LG OLEDs, Samsung KS8000) so can you check other TVs and see if it's an issue either with the console or the games themselves? I don't currently have other TVs other than those to test. I used Forza Horizon 4 on Xbox Series X looking at a bright clear sky.
Also smooth gradation on medium cleans it up nicely without too much detail loss.
You the man!!!
c'est du dirty sreen
Is there any way to test depth generation? For some reason the sony oleds just have a way of creating more dimensionality to an image compared to others
thatd be with the help of the processor right?
@@Lordbugbug yes. While lg often looks good in color vibrance, sony just bests all brands when it comes to that window effect in their oleds and the processor is 100% the reason why
How is it for gaming?
I love that you actually demonstrate the answers in the end and actually show us. Thank you.
As for this year's Sony models, I am disappointed they don't take full advantage of PS5. This is the second model release year for Sony and they still lack all PS5 features while other TV companies fully support PS5.
I guess I'll wait till next year before buying a Sony TV to see if they finally do full PS5 support or not.
What exactly does it not support?
@@dustinsharpe1049 Full VRR while having full TV features at the same time.
@@shmookins VVR is on the way I’m, I do have the a80j, I mainly use it for streaming tv shows and movies, but will game on it a bit. Now I’m finding out that to use 4K 120fps I’ll need a 100 mbps. Will the Xbox be the better console once vet is added? I’m so lost about this stuff could you please elaborate?
@@dustinsharpe1049 The thing is, VRR either limits or completely shuts down some of the TV features like local dimming, Dolby Vision, and what not. I don't know of any TV that does VRR while maintaining all the TV's features. Maybe one of the LGs. _Maybe_.
VRR is still new. Sony doesn't even have the update yet for their latest flagship LCD model. It will come at the end of Jan. 2022. But I feel it will be the same as on their current models that just got the VRR software update.
As for Xbox, it isn't about the consoles themselves as far as I'm aware. I think it is all on the TV to run it properly. Also, the MediaTek TV chip is a bottleneck. Sony uses those. Samsung and LG use their own chip but they still have their own limitations.
Now, this isn't a big deal, really. You won't even notice anything unless you know what to look for and have different TVs side by side. You have the best TV purchase and you should fully enjoy it.
It's just that personally, buying a TV is a big purchase for me, and I find it odd that the company that makes PS5 and TVs can't simply be the best option in gaming hands down. They are getting better though. The latest update has some unique PS5 features that you only get if you have a compatible Sony TV and a PS5 which is something.
By the way, I was aiming on getting the 65: X95J myself. But following its news closely, I got disappointed by a thousand cuts. Now I'll wait for the X96J's successor next year- unless Sony doesn't change anything for the 2022 models.
We'll know what Sony and the rest of the TV makers do for their 2022 models at CES on Jan. 5th. Fingers crossed.
@@shmookins Thank you for the detailed reply, I bought my xr a80j today and so far I think it’s an amazing TV, yeah I’m not sure 4K gameplay with 120 FPS will be optimal without losing out on some features, I’m just glad to hear that I got a pretty decent TV for gaming as well as viewing TV shows and stuff like that. I’m really new to this stuff. I’ll probably go for a PS5 since it seems to be more compatible with the TV I have. Not to mention I believe that some of these TVs really do have imperceivable Features that we can’t even really admire for the extra money not just visually either. It’s really easy to get lost in specs and stuff like that when in reality if a TV with Shown to you with no labels compared to a higher end model in some cases there’s a decent chance you wouldn’t be able to be able to tell the difference from what I understand.
Great review, Brandon!...Just received my 77" Sony A80J and looks spectacular!...Connected an Apple m1 Mac mini with text being detailed...
Question: What changes should one make to prevent burn-in on the A80J?
Don't worry about burn-in, you have to be watching the same thing (such as a channel with the ID logo in the top corner) for hundreds of hours non-stop, for it ever to become an issue. It's so unlikely I don't know why they even mention it at all.
Just don't use it as a pc, or use a still picture as a screen saver. Other then that don't worry about it.
Thank you for the review. I hope you will start adding system memory as a spec to review. Many of these smart TVs have low available system memory. We are paying a ton of money and yet we cannot add a decent number of apps because they don’t give us adequate storage space. It would not take much for them to give us extra storage space. We should not have to resort to things like USB drives.
Got the 77in version to get the more glossy screen. Enjoying the tv so far.
77inch is more glossy than 65? Does not have antiglare?
Thanks for the gr8 video , Can you update what is the maximum speed via the LAN port ?
I have a question. On your tv settings for like the c9 and cx you always suggest peak brightness to be off for SDR. Why now you suggest peak brightness to high for SDR for the C1 and a80j?
I know you guys buy your own tvs to review but it would be amazing to see a review of the 77 inch c1 with the new evo panel even without the hack. Maybe the evo panel on the c1 you reviewed would fix the bad out of the box calibration
did you find a lack of stock of all these TV's in stores? I was told it may be months.
Could we get an update relating to the VRR patch. I would be interested if it affects input lag as well, or if it has some other benefits
Hi, first things first. Excelente work, priceless when choosing a device. My suggestion on TVs, please include a test of Internet speed wireless and on cable. Esay to set up and show and so important these days.
Is the a80j that much better x90j to warrant the $600 price difference?
What a great content. I'm about to buy a TV, but my living room is quite bright. What TV would you recommend, dude? Thank you!
If you're in a bright room, OLED TVs might not be bright enough to overcome the glare. The Samsung QN90A is the best non-OLED alternative we've tested so far this year.
@@RTINGSdotcom Thank you, bro. I live in Japan, and there are only few models of Samsung tv here. Would you recommend any Sony model for bright rooms?
@@tiagoholland The Sony X90J (could be called something different) is truly amazing. It’s super bright and has a lot of gaming features.
HD 1080 could best for you
Does the A80J use the same second gen panel as in the LG G1 and A90J?
No it doesn't
@@Nyle95 could be yes. Heard that all 77" Models (A80J, C1) uses the WBE (aka Evo) Panel
@@silentsnake1800 Read that too, but nothing official, and no reviews that I’ve seen mention this. I bought the 77” A80J two days ago so hoping that this rumor turns out to be true.
That's weird to talk about motion settings.. with a non moving image..
you woudn't be able to see how it looks otherwise becasue you're watching this video through not only a compressed video on the internet, but also another screen.
Hi. What is the difference between Sony A80J and A84J models?
Good day, guys! I really need your advise. Now I am choosing between X90J and A80J. Led and Oled. And A80J costs on 850$ more in my country. It is worth? Will Oled give me the other level of experience or there will not be a big difference?
Hi I have same problem I waiting for X95J but when I watched A80J I was shocked how crispy the picture is.Colours and blacks are amazing.Here in UK X95J LED 75 inch will cost £3500
A80J 77 inch cost £3999 I think the choice is pretty clear for me now.OLED all the way.
Go to your local store and check once again A80J OLED and X90J LED and I believe you will choose OLED like me.😉
In your opinion, what 2021 TV (OLED or non-OLED) is the BEST (regardless of price) for watching hockey? What TV has the BEST plasma-like motion? Thank you.
14:55 honestly, does this look like similar contrast to you guys? I know the the test data shows so, but the extent of difference these indicator images show is too big.
One thing to note is that we're taking these pictures with a camera and we do our best to make sure they're done in a consistent way so they're more comparable, but it's not a more accurate way to determine the contrast than the measurements we take. We take the pictures though in case people want to see them and compare for themselves.
Is eurosport included as an app??
Hi, which one of these units do you think will preform best in a very bright room. I get the afternoon sun and my older LG gets washed out. Thanks.
Hey Paul! For a very bright room, you may want to avoid an OLED TV. Because they can't get as bright as other TVs, in a bright room they might look washed out.
The Samsung QN90A might be a good alternative to consider though! It's the best non-OLED TV we've tested so far.
@@RTINGSdotcom thanks so much for your response….I’ll check out that Samsung…..I’m sure glad I didn’t go ahead with a OLED …anyone you might suggest for this in the Oakville, Ontario area. Thanks again.
The a90j. The 6 a80 is horrible and loose contrast and is very dark in a bright room. The 77 would be better
@@Jordanfiend361 Horrible? Uh oh! I just bought one. Not too late to return though. Cant fitA 77 and can’t afford a 90. Suggestions?
Where are the tvs with floating speakers and illuminated Sony logo?
How does it compare to the G1? I’m hesitating between the two
There both excellent TVs. The LG has more gaming features like lower input lag and VRR support, but the Sony should get VRR in a future firmware update. The LG has the new evo panel, allowing it to get brighter in HDR, but the Sony still gets a bit brighter in SDR. They're built differently as the LG is meant to sit flush against a wall and comes with a dedicated wall mount, while the Sony is a more typical TV that comes with a stand.
what about the burn in ? i want take this tv but its for ps5 , im scared about burn in
We did a big test on this which you can read more about here: www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test
Basically though, as long as you avoid static content, we don't expect burn-in to be an issue.
I'm stuck between the a80j vs the Samsung qn90a. Which would you recommend? And would your recommendation change if it was a well-lit room?
A80j all the way. It's simply the better TV
What did you end up getting ?
A80j qn90a is just a bright panel which is not eye comfort qn90a also doesn’t support Dolby vision n Dolby armoe
What did you get?
When was this tv actually released? I’m asking because I’m concerning returning my 77 and just waiting for the new one
The A80J was in the Spring of 2021. The unit we purchased arrived in May!
@@RTINGSdotcom do you remember when the preorder was available?
How do i get the legs out? I want to change the legs to soundbar mode but i cant get the legs out... Please help
You just have to pull hard enough
Is it me or is the panel bent @ 1:12 ? a little on bottom a lot on top.
Enjoyable review, but having bought one of these sets recently I am seriously baffled at the obsession you seem to have with brightness, almost suggesting that it's a really dim screen. Reflections are not a problems at all unless you place it opposite a window and are watching with sunlight coming directly through the window - but that's the same with any TV, and almost nobody would do that.
If you're using it in a room with several large strip lights, like an office environment - not the sort of natural environment that most people watch TV in - you might have a problem although that could describe the showroom we first viewed it in, and it wasn't a problem in there. But in your average living room, even with bright lamps or ceiling lights you won't have any problems, which isn't the impression your review gives, especially because of the number of times you repeat it. I really think you're doing the manufacturers a disservice here, and overstating a potential problem that in most circumstances doesn't even exist.
So in a bedroom that's not too bright, it shouldn't be a problem?
@@cloud6501 No problem at all. There are various brightness/colour controls and a light monitor too which helps a lot. It would be perfect for any room where there are no bright lights at all. Also worth a mention is the upscaling, which it handles superbly well. I was a little concerned that HD broadcasts wouldn't look so good on a larger screen (our previous set was 42", this one is 55") but it handles them extremely well and everything looks much sharper than the old set. I was a little unsure at first as there are several 4K sets around that are much cheaper, but I've been really impressed with the Sony. Worth every penny.
It would be nice if sony changed the semi glossy screen to glossy screen
Doesn't bother me at all...glare and reflection is very minimal.
Buy the 77 inch.
Yep I got the 77" glossy for the win😬
Please your opinion, I want to buy a tv , in my country this A80J is the same price as LG C2 . Whish one you recommend? Thank you.
In this case, we’d recommend checking out our comparison between both models so you can see which is best in the areas that are important to you. www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-a80j-oled-vs-lg-c2-oled/21563/31229?usage=1&threshold=0.10
If it’s still unclear or you have specific questions though, feel free to follow up!
Is the a80j better or the lg c2 to get ?
Here is our comparison for both! www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-a80j-oled-vs-lg-c2-oled/21563/31229?usage=1&threshold=0.10
I bought c2 just 20 mins ago 😂
@@luvpradhan2145How's it?
@@vb8428 excellent 👌
as far as I know, they are produced in Slovakia and in China. What sample do you have ?
We're not sure unfortunately. Looking at the label for the unit we purchased though, it appears to have been made in Mexico!
@@RTINGSdotcom wooooow, I also saw Belgian Sony, never saw Mexican
So what is a better choice for brighter room where no gaming occurs on the tv?
It depends on a few different factors, including what size of TV you want and your budget. But TVs that get bright enough to overcome glare are what you want to look for.
We made you a custom table tool, but feel free to customize it further with any other details you want to consider to find the best option for you: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/59039
The a90j is best bet for a brighter room
@@Jordanfiend361 But $2k more.
Is this tv better then the u6g
I'm looking for a 4k eye-friendly TV. Can you adjust the Sony A80J to be eye-friendly? I read that OLED TVs can get really bright, to the extent that it hurts your eyes.
How loud is sound? Debating whether to get Sound Bar but dont like the thought of giving up a 2.1 HDMI
We don't have any sort of test for how loud a TV is, but we do test the frequency response and distortion. Overall, the internal speakers are good. There's a lot of distortion at the TV's max volume, but it's much better at moderate volume levels. However, distortion depends on the content and not everyone can hear it.
Another factor could be the room you use it in and how far away you sit. If it's an open room and you're further away, a soundbar could be a better option.
I see in a few reviews that this tv has an issue - image retention,but it does goes off after a minute or two. does it cause any problem in future cause I want to buy this.
Can't believe Sony is still stringing people along on VRR after like a year. Still haven't even given a window for release. Not sure they are to be trusted at this point. I didn't buy a Series X to only use "most of" the features. The C1 still seems like the better buy, especially considering it's cheaper.
If you sre a gamer then I can agree but if you are an image purist or a movie enthusiast then the a80j and a90j are the way to go but if you are even a casual gamer or just game on the ps5 then the sony is still a great choice as that won't get vrr until the tvs do lol
i have the 65 with a new series x. and gaming is great. i wish you guy would do a settings adjustment for us. i think the black scenes are a bit too black.
I'm confused to which one to get now, the C1 or A80J, I do plan on gaming on it but I'm not an obsessed gamer, I do like games like Assassin's Creed. Any advice??
The Sony A80J OLED and the LG C1 OLED are amazing TVs capable of turning pixels off individually to produce deep inky blacks with a near-infinite contrast ratio. You can't go wrong with either, but they do have some differences. The LG offers a bit more for gamers, with two more HDMI 2.1 ports than the Sony and it has lower input lag. The Sony, however, has better out-of-the-box accuracy, although this can vary from unit to unit. That said, it may help to check out this comparison, but honestly, you'll be happy either way! www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-c1-oled-vs-sony-a80j-oled/21421/21563?usage=1&threshold=0.10
does the A8S 48" Oled have enough room in front for a sound bar?
RTINGS - One thing I would like to know is whether the software on this TV is better when compared to the LG OLEDs. Google TV vs LG's WebOS software.
How wide is the bump out plastic section on the back left to right?
weather in houston? forcast to be crappy
Does it do 120hz natively since my 4k Apple TV only does 60hz.
Yes the TV is 120hz panel so it does support 120hz natively. Apple Tv is currently limited to 60hz though. Are you concerned about something in particular?
Could you possibly explain on the reality creations settings? I'm so close to pulling the trigger on this TV. Thanks
Hi man!
Sometimes while playing or watching movies on my Sony a80j, the bezels (sometimes the left side and sometimes right side, but not both at the same time) become bigger, and when I return to the Home Menu the screen returns normal, do you think it is normal?
Sir sony 65x9000h vs 8000j wich is the best model please tellme
Hey! If you're comparing the X900H to the X80J, the X900H is the better TV. The X900H uses a VA panel with a high contrast ratio and full-array local dimming, gets brighter and has more features, and has a slightly faster response time. It also has two HDMI 2.1 ports if you plan on gaming.
Thank q so much sir.
Does A80J not have dolby vision? Or was it fix for it?
Why is the A8H better than the A80J in your rating, even though it is newer?
Cos Sony are lazy
A8h is sonys best oled
Perhaps the A8H shows as highly rated based on the time period of its review, but the A80J is clearly MUCH better than the A8H and if they were reviewed side-by-side today the review could reflect that truth. I've seen both side by side and love my 77" A80J!
Hey! Just to be clear, overall both TVs got an 8.8 Mixed Usage score. The biggest difference between the two TVs though, is that the A90J has two HDMI 2.1 ports, which is great if you plan on using it for the latest gaming consoles, while the A8H doesn't have any. Otherwise, they both deliver the same exceptional picture quality and performance that most OLEDs do, thanks to their ability to turn off individual pixels and their near-instantaneous response times.
@@RTINGSdotcom can we get a comparison between the 2?
Really need help picking out a tv. I am debating between this one and the new Samsung QN90A. I use it for movies and streaming. I am coming from a LG oled that has a burnout
So the QN90A is the best non-OLED TV we have tested. If you're anxious about going back to an OLED, it would be the best choice.
If you really liked the last OLED TV you had though, the A80J would be a great option and is what we consider to be the better TV overall.
Great review, a bit disappointed in the hdr. Just ordered a 65” model for 2299€ with a 5 year guarentee.,the 77” was 3700€. Next year maybe… the c1 65” was 400€ more!
Why are you disappointed?
A private retailer is selling this tv (55in) for $1,150 CAD but it has a scuff mark that is noticeable when the tv is off but not when it's on. Should I consider getting this TV at that price with the minor cosmetic mark? Thanks!
Our experts are happy to answer your questions via the forums on our website! www.rtings.com/forums
What is the difference between 77" A80J and the Costco version 77" A80CJ.
It's just a different product code to avoid price matching!
A80J VS X85J ...which one would be better ? not going to use it for gaming but just casual movies and 4k content. Thanks in advance.
If the room you will use it in has moderate or dark lighting conditions, go with the A80J. If you're in a bright or sunny room, it might have trouble overcoming the glare.
www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-a80j-oled-vs-sony-x85j/21563/21695?usage=11&threshold=0.10
My parents have 50X85J for a few days. Not a bad TV, but sound is very crappy (tin can like sound with tendency to hiss) and even I have set it to minimum brightness/backligt I would prefer possibility to dim it more (for evening conditions). Image can be very nice for good signal (TV is used for common broadcasting - a few fullHD, mostly HD720). Brighter areas have tendency to look washed out and to have some kind of pastel look (but it's probably problem of LCD VA panels). So I want to try OLED - but I'm not sure it will solve those described flaws of X85J ? And from some reviews it look A80J has more bluish/cold color temperature which I really hate. I prefer warmer temperature, more pleasant for eyes and more natural than articifal blue tint.
@@bh69videa i bought the 55a80j ... oled .... amazing clarity ..... have attached sounds bars to it ... sounds good .... happy with it
@@V3NOM52 how it sounds without soundbar ? and what about blueish / cold temperature of colors ?
@@bh69videa sounds good with a sound bar .... now that again depends which one you are buying .... colors are not a problem ....
Does the Sonos ARC fit when using feet?
I’ve just purchased the 55”A80j and Sonos arc. With the stand in the soundbar position, it doesn’t fit between the legs but I’ve actually stood it on top of the legs. There’s just enough of a gap so it doesn’t foul the screen. It goes slightly above the bezel and maybe a few mm of the screen but nothing at all noticeable, it actually looks like it was made to fit if I’m honest.
When vrr??!!
Hey which is good one to buy samsung q90a qled or sony a80j oled?
It really depends on your needs! If you're in a darker room, the OLED is probably the way to go. If you're in a room that is very bright, you might want to go with the QN90A as it can get much brighter and can overcome glare.
16:40 can you use this TV without signing into a google account? Like a... how should I put it... TV?
Yes.
Does it have freesat? There is no digital reception in my area and need freesat. Satellite tvs are basically useless when the satellite tuner just tunes the tv guide unorganised
Is the hdmi full bandwidth?
Yes it’s 48gbps
@@Zoranurai13 Doesn't make any difference to 40gbps on a 10bit tv tho...
@@marcuscole8796 either way i answered a question, whether it matters or not is still up for debate
@@Zoranurai13 Yes, you're right. I shouldn't have addressed it to you but those who are asking for currently useless 48gbps ... sorry, my fault
Guys i know that 40gb is enough and 48 is useless
. I just asked out of curiousity
My tv stand is 42", is it okay to get A80J 65" tv?
Is this the same as the one from Costco, the Sony 65" Class - A80CJ Series?
That's right! They have different names to avoid price matching.
How easy or complicated is to get neutral or warmer color temperature instead of this cold blue one ? Only manualy, without professional calibration. Parents 50X85J looks very neutral, no problem with tendency to be cold / blue. But while it has some flaws (tendency to wash out brighter colors a bit or to have some "pastel" hue, too bright even with brightnes set to min) I'm looking forward A83J. But I'm afraid there can be another, maybe more annoying flaws (for significantly higher price ..).
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@@MissSitaKat not enough - too cold/blue
Is there any semi gloss panel for the a80j? If not whats the best 75+ inch semi gloss panel tv for 2021? I checked out the samsung mini led but its too glossy. I intend to place it in the living room with lots of big windows and light.
I think vrr had been added now
In the end you say there are better LED options for well lit rooms. What are they?
I think it’s Samsung’s 80series upward and maybe hisense TVs
Of the 2021 TVs we reviewed so far, the Samsung QN90A is the brightest. The brightest non-Samsung so far is the Hisense U8G!
If you want to see the other options, check this out: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/55459
Are there no standby led on this tv? Cant seem to find it. Only a toggle switch for the led when using the remote in settings....
What about Bravia Core? I. Finish all my credits and now what? Is there any way to buy more or is just an useless app?