The Reality Of Pay To Win in Throne and Liberty?
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- The Current State of Pay-to-Win in Throne and Liberty and How Will It Affect Global Release
This video covers the breakdown of everything that can be tied to pay to win in Throne and Liberty and how that will affect the global release.
If you have any questions or concerns let me know in the comments.
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
1:01 - P2W Expectations
1:53 - Currencies and cash shop
2:37 - Market
4:04 - Bottlenecks
5:15 - Death system
6:13 - Free to play (F2P)
7:26 - Future and global release
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Throne and Liberty is an upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing game developed and to be published in South Korea by NCSoft. It was to be published in North America, South America, Europe, and Japan by Amazon Games
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No korean game is very p2w at start, once they capture your interest, later down the line they will milk you.
This strikes me as a similar strategy employed by Blizzard for Diablo III, where you had the normal marketplace and then the real-world money marketplace. There's certainly a lot of similarities between the two models. Blizzard opted to remove the RW marketplace swiftly due to a massive upset from the player-base, with whales being able to attain Godly gear before others.
Imo TL should've just been a subscription based model, they seem to be the best for longevity of an MMO.
Still a possibility of sub based model if amazon goes that route.
I really wish they would release the cap on the dungeons , the fact that you can only do 3 a day and 10 contact is not enough content . It gets super repetitive and boring . The drop chances are so damn low as is so why would they care if we want to dungeon spam all day ? Then on top of that you have to fully trait items , ridiculous grind to have with time / gate kept content .
Devs give out many many dungeon entry tokens. I have around 87 of them unused and I've been playing since the start. Theres not enough time to do them
The zero-loot-policy is mainly to support bots. Bots can farm 24/7 and run endlessly boring content get eventually loot and sell. There are many explicit signs saying "you are not intended to get any loot unless you pay". It could be easy to make loot only available if you take regional quests, needing to go back take quest, and move around and not farm same spot 24/7 like bots do. simply remove all drop loot, so bots get nothing unless the do some additional quests/move around mechanics. But again, the game is designed around botting. e.g. amitois auto loot to support afk farming^^
@@FRESHY_GG really ? When else have they given out tokens besides the new years event ? Because that’s all I was buying and I ran through them all and have to do 3 dungeons daily only . Besides that I already have all my gear +9 and some purple +6 and the only thing worth doing is farming mobs that hopefully drop purple lithographs which is extremely rare or world bosses . Besides that there’s absolutely nothing to do with, and when it comes to journal quests no one’s ever in the sylus abyss bottom floors to do those quests . And those events that happen open world give horrible loot .
@@mgvikings1484 I mean , have you not been to fonos basin or any higher level area , there’s still groups of bots farming all day long for purple gear and lithographs so what your saying makes no sense . I play everyday and no matter where I go in any high level area there’s some form of bots somewhere . I just personally don’t get why they gatekeep dungeons so much when the chance to get the drop you want is so rare PLUS you have to completely trait out your gear . In my opinion it’s just dumb
@@ironskater121 I agree theres nothing to do even if you have 100 tokens, you still do the same things over and over again. New content is on the way, but its very slow and I do fear amazon delaying more and more will hurt the game hard on release
They need to add durability on all armor and weapons and let players to sell resources and equipment for gold. People who cant grind 24/7 will buy gold and get all the equipment they want and players can earn extra gold for same things. Armor and weapons will brake eventually and you will need to grind again or buy new one on the market for gold. profit or no.
Go play Eve online for this type of game play
sub model / battle pass / expansion pass is my go to, I will gladly pay 15$ - 30$ a month for a good game or even buy new content, I don't understand why developers try to please the whales, the whale won't stay if the game is dead cause no one wants to play with the whales. Is this the reality now, make a game, cash it in for a year or so, then shut it down when everyone leaves?
Maybe the game isnt good so it stays f2p
"Pay to win elements such as wow token" ? pllease tell me how is that p2w
Because the raids are made so that they can be carryable, so is PvP. Not to mention all the other uses of gold. If you have enough gold you can pretty much not play at all, that's why it's p2w.
@@secretzpt176 nah bro.. you can't even pay for gold from what I remember. Only from 3rd party sites
I hate games with 2 currency because it always involved P2W aspect. Ncsoft knows this shit and they still allow it. This is why this game is doom to fail. WoW retail gold has really no value because gold is so easy to come by and its most important aspect for gold usage is to repair gear during raid/M+. People are not trouble by gold because its not an RNG like most Korean games that you gamble to enchant and break. If you can't do the mechanic people dont want you. But now Throne and Liberty has even more dumb rules on being penalty if you die. If you believe their saying "whale gears cant 1v2 you are on cracked."
this game is a glorified Mobile game, game feel and monetization wise. Maybe if it pops it west, I'm just gonna RMT. lmao
As long as ingame currency can buy credit card its already a dead game i thought this game is pure cosmetics subscription and battlepass only im not interested anymore
All MMO's are pay to win!!! Right now I can buy a Warcraft Boost, Easy!
Wow is NOT p2w, you can buy a boost but what? The hardest part of the game is gearing your character, learning the classes, the mechanics, dungeon routes and if you want to be a healer or tank you need to learn extra stuff. And if you are that dumb to spend money in mythics/raid carry all that gear is going to be useless on the next season. So basically buying leveling-boosts or gearing boosts is not going to give you a real advantage 😂
@@doggiman6164 So Lost Ark isn't p2w because if you spend gold (for carries like in WoW) it will also eventually become obsolete? By your definition any sort of advantage through swiping isn't p2w as long as in the future it won't matter, this just doesn't make sense.
I really don't feel the p2w
I see only Pay to progress
What do you want to spend time or money? I play on the Korean series and have two lvl 50 characters. Never spent a dime and enjoy the game.
@@kyleyoungblood293 👍
You want casual players to have BiS items & traits ? lol that's for premium players or who grind a lot. You cant expect to get BiS items with bare-minimum effort. Not in the game, not in real life
Love the pay to progress system in P2W, pisses off neets who think should be ahead of everyone with actual jobs cuz they play all day XD
actual prime example of ego driven neanderthaler mindset. this take is so onesided and stupid. as if there could not be a better solution...
"Why should people who play the game more be further ahead than people who don't?"
I get this is probably just a troll comment, but yeesh I hate to think how much money you've dumped into games.
Please release global launch of the game so we can get English speaking UA-camrs. I can't understand this guy
i mean you can always turn on the auto generated subtitles, so it shouldn't be a problem
@@priestessjosa I wish such a thing existed. But it doesn't. So we listen to videos of Tee Row eh Hithery until we get English speakers.
Sorry for not being American/English and only know how to speak 1 language like yourself, and from the likes of it you can barely speak it yourself.
@@FRESHY_GG You are right, I'm neither English nor American, but I did understand you. I think those who speak English as their native language should be able to understand you. Keep your good work!
I speak a few languages but that is besides the point. You are speaking for around ten minutes and I can't understand you. Perhaps put words on the screen so I can read them or perhaps man up and take some constructive criticism. We have only 26 letters on our alphabet. It's not hard not does it take a long time to learn how each one sounds. As of now, it seems you are surrounded by people who want to encourage you and therefore you stay the same instead of learning how to speak a language that you are trying to to make a profession in by teaching on UA-cam in that same language