I havent played it but I believe you forgot one thing. This is the first mmorpg I see in years that is so optimised with so many people in screen. It's actually fucking insane. No lag, no fps drops, nada.
This game is giving me a lot of Aion vibes, with a good balance of pvp and pve. I am not a pvp player, but loved the pocket healer experience in Aion pvp. Gonna try for the different experience.
Andrey, this type of videos are the ones I need. Not too much time talking. Just a realtive short video explaining the important parts of the game. Very effiecient and thats what I like, keep it up!
I played on korean servers at release and also during the closed beta for western servers, the game is really good. I'm a big mmo player, and it has a good balance between pvp, solo content, and stuff you CANNOT DO without a team. There is open world content that reminds me of gw2 world bosses or dynamic events, but also instanced content, which is good. I don't remember if you can fish or not, but it could be a nice feature if it's not present, active content is cool but it's important to have "chill" activities in a mmorpg.
Hey Andrey thx for the video, is the 1st video i seen from you, the algoritm of youtube brings me here :p you did great work in this video it has a very solid information and greatly explained, so again thanks for the video and keep doing this way.
Hopefully Amazon won’t F the game up… I agree 100%, it’s a very fun and engaging game. Pay to win is not the worst I have seen, if you play enough you will be able to make plenty of money on the AH to progress your toons. Overall, there are more positives than negatives imo… I agree with your conclusion!
ah yes... a player injected real money market for items "not the worst". this is so incredibly bad man. defending p2w in a MMO just itself makes me not taking this comment seriously. amazon already fked it up with what they showed us in the beta. bad combat system, boring quests and boring story, bad "black desert"-like movement, p2w from the beginning and controlling the games progression speed, same New World problem here again with a "better get in the big guilds or you are done"-system where a hand full of guilds controll the economy, bad skill learning/progression system like getting bombarded from level 1 with all those skills who in the hell thought this is a good idea... just makes people go look up builds cause of how overwhelming this is and thats bad cause everyone is gonna run the same stuff in the end... the only good things for me so far with this game was the visuals... amazing... i liked the morph system and its potential... i liked the way you interact with NPCs and the small instanced Quest rooms with the Questgivers even tho i guess many dont like this and prefer the good old "npc in open world everyone interacts with" questing experience... also liked how alive the world felt but this is also depending on player numbers and how big the servers are... the only monetization they should have done is cosmetics and a non p2w purely cometics battlepass maybe since these days not having a battlepass makes people angry which is crazy to me... battlepasses in MMOs is in general a weird concept i dont get...
I am also in 400+ hours in game still having fun and i havent even maxed any of my epic gear to +9 yet there are plenty of game content to try but probably Paxdei will be a better mmo and it will launch on the same dates Oh and there is also chrono odyssey No matter what you say i spent around 350 - 400 usd in the game you can buy gear dissolve use it to disolve / you can buy gem from ah to directly upgrade anything you want you need plenty of lucent(premium currency) So it’s definitely pay2win but who cares even wow is p2w you can buy gold and craft 460-483 gear or directly buy from ah Just try the game and see if you like it or not dont hate on before the start
how will paxdei be better did u see it ? its more of a survival mmo , nothing to do with pvp or skills in depth , building an dstuuf , totally different thing brother
@@ecosti read their official interview they specifically said this will not be a survival mmo no starvation no sleeping no limited ammo but you build cities together and its not p2w thats the biggest win
@@ecosti yea lets hope they bring more content bc i heard game is going to be full pve as you said i am counting on chrono odyssey more than any mmo right now hype is real😄
@@goldenplectrum9695 bro its alread confirmed , the next half of the map will open up so many new zones , 1 more castle for siege , the pvp rift and boomstone is strictly gvg, u will get more dungeons , they will add dungeons difficulties to choose for more rewards , arenas 2v2 3v3 6v6 , new weapona coming first is spear , and big servers vs servers pvp events , pls new armor sets epic tier2, new bosses , abd some changws to the pvp events bevoming blues vs reds ppl split in 2 teams and pvp. Imo the content was enough already , u have ur pvp and u know when it is , i dont want a 2md life mmo again , i dont want full daillies , i wanna go lut for a beer and skip the game for a day or two with out feeling im far behind now, so i feel its perfect as it is
This game looks OP. For me combat system is everything in MMOs,I am huge fan of Tera. TL combat system is similar to ArcheAge and ArcheAge combat system is ok. If this game was action combat like Tera or Bdo it will be next big thing but now I don’t know. Need grind and focus to PVE content because many players do not like PVP.
imo. i think its worse than AA combat system. that said compare to when TnL first launched till now, has been an improvement. but i'd still consider Tnl combat system to be below AA. in comparison between AA and TnL, AA is way more fluid. if you play TnL, it becomes very apparent that this game was originally a mobile game. the combat system feels like mmo games i've played on my iphone. if i have to make an example. Assuming you havent played TnL and have played AA. if you played darkrunner in AA, there is a skill called precision strike from the battlerage tree.you can use that melee skill while moving, jumping, running, etc. it comes out fluid and doesnt lock your character one place. Well in Tnl, similar skills to that, big single target skills that does burst melee damage are all character animation movement locked. you cant do it while jumping, moving, etc. you have to be one tile same place.
@@allreli6943 i know i hurt your weenie baby boy feelings. but this game was originally supposed to be a mobile game, that was repurposed to be a lost ark competitor after lost ark success, that was then repurposed as a mmo pc game/console game. if you actually played this game way back before the combat revamp and when they had astral hunting. itd only take you one day of playing to make you come to the same conclusion that this is some frankenstein mobile esque game that was rehashed to be launched on pc. it had AUTO FARMING, AUTO PATHING, and AUTO QUESTING, all aspects you see in mobile games. the combat system was a literal stiff lock-on no-fluidity dog shiet combat game. the game you're playing right NOW on kr, is a huge improvement from when it first released you knuckle draggin moron. back then you couldnt even move your character around to auto attack and use skills, you were animation locked. much different now where at least you can move around when autoattacking. skilss are still animation/movement locked. also TnL have made improvements on their anti-botting system. back then, it was fooking bad. bots everywhere, it was killing the game. but i can see improvements now where places used to be infested with bots are now clearing up. this dumas doesnt realize this game has been in developement since 2011. project TL has been for 6 years, but clearly people dont remember this game was originally slated as lineage eternal. but was constantly rebranded, restructured again and again with continous delays because management/leadership couldnt decided on anything, because they were stuck chasing the trend back then. when mobile games were popping off back then, and then they saw lost ark becoming successful. which you can tell if you zoom out the character in-game, the TnL fov looks like a lost ark game at a certain angle. and then now back to being a 3-d mmo cuz they've finally decided to do a dual console/pc release of the game. which will be very helpful for the growth/popularity of TnL. TLDR; nah, im right.
I played TL beta and im HYPED! I think its PAY TO RUSH(get great gear first, but can call pay to win cus you probably will owning people since day 1) I'm PVE player must Raiding or Playing WOW mythic plus, i hope TL get some content like that to keep me playing and i will dont cara about P2W. BTW: WOW Black Market is just mounts or transmog with no stats
You a very cool guy. I will be playing and streaming this game once it releases on Europe, and i will definitely be sending many of my people to watch any guide you have for this game. Appreciate you.
Its definitely a port to mobile type feel. When you move, you can't move at an angle sort of. its like you can move in left to right, and up and down, and it feels like you can't twist on the axis. you short of shift along the access. so if you want to move to 2'olock you sort of gotta strafe and shift to the angle you want to move it. I think in current games if you want to move at an angle, its more natural. In this game you can only move 12, 3, 6, and 9 oclock with ease. but the other directions are difficult, not fluid, no smooth, not natural. so the movement and combat is very asian 2010s. So basically its like a good looking Asian MMO from the early 2010s. Or a cutting edge mobile from 2024. Its literally 2024, how can you make moving at a curve impossible without shifting the camera at the same time?? hahah
if all classes have aoe skills (for pvp and pve) that can combo a group of people with increasing respawn time everytime you die, this will be a very fun game for me. if i can get all contents without paying even if going to endgame is a little grindy, i'd still take it
My main problem with MMOs is that there is drama between guilds... Since I had drama on Defiance 2050 (RIP), Destiny 1, Bless Unleashed and Neverwinter I decided to play SOLO...
for me hands down the best mmo of last 2 decades after lineage 2 , they removed most abuse u could do in lineage 2 pk etc etc , made pvp optional mostly which again its fine , they making insanly nice cvhanges and updates , looks amazing feels amazing and fluid , the grind its not so much to get repetitive , with adding the arenas and if they implement guild wars so u cna pvp freely between 2 guilds that they have open war between them then it wil be legendary , the p2w its there but in this form and IF they keep it like that its very acceptable and this is coming from a huge hater of p2w
It reminds me a lot of Lost Ark. I have about 650 hours in that game. Hopefully it remains lively because bots killed Lost Ark and it eventually became a ghost town. I'm going to buy the early access right now and hop in.
From what Ive played so far, yes - you can gather materials over the world and then you can craft gear etc. but how much are these interconnected I cannot tell. IT seemed like Im gathering different materials then I needed for my new dagger for example.
Hey dude, thanks for the review! Are there any nice damage over time options for this game? Like not just one skill on one weapon, but as an actual viable playstyle with diverse options? Thanks!
Бро ты пример для меня ❤️ я за тобой слежу теперь у меня мечта тоже такая учиться англизкий и стать геймером уже все пошло канал вот набрал 600 скоро буду 1000 и англизкий тоже изучаю удачи тебе бро
I am generally not big on PvP but I will give it a shot. It may not keep my involved for years like Everquest back in the day but a am sure I can get a couple hundred hours out of it.
When the endgame is pvp a lot of players do want to play this mmo. Most people are pve players and when whaling doesnt bring you anything in endcontent means not many people will whale.
I will try the full release as F2P ... possibly the worst idea but the beta hooked me too much. So many refreshing things Ive encountered. The live dungeons just like in Albion, interesting characters and builds. Combat felt nice even though sometimes cluncky (could use a little bit of smoothening). Overall I felt like playing a new MMORPG .. not a copy of something established so Im wondering why people hate this so much besides the P2W
Not sure why so many people are complaining about P2W. Almost every single game is P2W. Look at the iOS store, all those games are P2W. If people dont like P2W games they should stick to Shooter games or Single player games.
i think that for the west, the compatition part would better be filtered out. a % partisipated reward struckture. the compatition works better in koria, where people open their wallet, and let money do the talking. in the west, we don't have that so mutch. if amazon is working on that, than the "non-global" release is better. i understand compatition is in our blood. we do tent to give up on games, when wales dominate everything. our compatitions are more skill based, than money based. having the same 250 wales dominate wvery event en all other players getting scaps, will kill the game in the long run. prove me wrong.
First negative point: many people already played to the game so you will have rushers that will know everything about the game direct from the get go. Which is something important cause PvP means rushing to have the best possible gear / skills / spells / items / food / pots... to crush opponents.
@@KeViNaNoViC Well not crying Kevin just saying something true but if it gives you a sensation of power good news is that even with all that will still be able to kick your ass IG 🤣
@@jovanmajs8705 normalizing being behind is the problem. I don't agree with 1 or 2 weeks behind but fine I'll take that... Now we're talking about probably a year. What will they do? Rush content to be up with Korea and create FOMO among the players while milking their money that way, that's how they make western players p2w even if they're against it. If you're gonna fall for it fine but I'm out.
@marcioabreu1150 your overthinking it buddy. Games have done this in the past like Maplestory and all that does is when it does reach Global it's much more refined and better. Plus it's always fun to see what's coming up ahead something to get excited about.
@@LiquidGas0 are you seriously give me Mapplestory as an example? A game where it's population is mostly children and teens and has a history of massive fraud?! If I was overthinking how come this sht keeps happening again and again. You sound like you overcoping buddy. How about trying a game from scratch at the same time as everyone else have you thought about that? Guess not... Cause today's gamers only know how to do things with a step by step guide made 8 months prior... Thats no longer playing a game, that's performing a task.
i want to know the downsides and the cons. im not interested in the pros, pros will speak for themself. so i will have to wait until i hit lvl 50 and complete the whole campaign before i can play with friends?
I actually find it better than BDO. easier to play, even the graphics is easier to the eyes. BDO is to chaotic for my taste. Although, I did love the BD mobile version (for a while) But, TL is a little better on more things. Combat is a little stiff (specially for Melee) but, Range is okay. Overall, it's a good mmorpg. Sometimes boring, but overall great
Play your weapons, test if you like them. Try to get as much as possible skill books and lvl up skills - you will feel difference. Find a guild to try pvp and siege )
The question I have, is will I get anywhere in the game if I have a day job? So I can only play a few hours a night, and I'm not prepared to swipe. So can I get anywhere with these conditions? Or should I pass?
The fact that we don't have a global release date is starting to scare me. They should have released it when it had all the hype and good publicity, I am worried the player base will not be very large because they are waiting so long.
I mean if you will use it for materials, make original videos and not just translate it in Portugese - sure go for it man! It is All for the community anyway :) Just mention my channel somewhere please
you can use an item to transfer the lv of 1 skill to another of the same type, the item cost premiun currency but time to time they have gift some or put them on events/promos
With being able to swap classes via weapons what is the incentive to make alternate characters? This is where you know the microxsactins are going to be ridiculous!
@@MLove1991 as you have 2 weapons to choose from, choose wand (healing weapon) and anything else to lvl up. Staff is the best synergy for early game and hybrid play style - my choice )
I get PTSD from new world when anyone is saying drama and betraying people is fun. In the end if you are a leader of large alliance and this kind of shit happens it feels like waste of time when you spend nearly 24/7 a day managing kids.
you have the trait system a little wrong. You say you need over 9 of the same item ( you used chest as an example) to finish it, that's not true. You can use trait unlockstones which can be gained from dungeon farming (crafting with the boss tokens) , lithograph, or weekly reward, for a chest, you need 50 per trait slot unlock and you can choose what they become. let's assume you also got unlucky and got a bad initial trait, you can change the first trait for 50 unlockstones and a currency you can buy from the guild vendor. so at most this is 150 unlockstones assuming you don't get a duplicate chest to drop in the mean time. After you have completed your unlocks, you don't actually need dupe's of the same item, you just need ANY chest piece with the same trait to upgrade the trait tier. i feel like this is important to address because you make it sound much more p2w than it is, that it's basically out of range of f2p but it's not, it's slower yes, but it's doable.
The game will be next to TRAHA GLOBAL they will closed in how many months you know why? Because both TRAHA and THRONE AND LIBERTY HAS NO PLAYER TO PLAYER TRADE there is no purpose of playing a game where on the developer and company are earning
bdo veteran here (7 years) we have similar p2w things ! and there are people like this dude defending it by saying the same ....it's expensive to p2w u need to pay a lot to get one item. that excuse been used every time someone ask if bdo is p2w.....yet everyone p2w and game added more p2w items throughout the years. now even healing is p2w sadly. i see this game going that route. not a game to invest ur time into ! i thinkt his game just to try and move on to next mmo.
i played 200h and i got enough. P2W pve game with mini game of pvp. 90% of the time u just do same pve contracts, dungeons and rune dungeons. Conveyor like feeling, open world grind is meaningless, even if you want to grind for gear, you are limited and can do 2 co-op dungeons, 10 contracts and thats it for day, all progression is from these daily things, while p2w isnt capped. PvP is crap in general, you either miss everything or one tap. These daily tasks take ~2h max to complete, world events are useless in terms of rewards (all of them give same reward, just some give more gold than others). If you want to progress faster, you will need multi accounts. They added "rune" system just to add some longevity to game, since it is brainless grind of going through same dungeon over and over and if you dont want to grind same dungeon like a zombie, you will fall behind. Got myself 4200 gs and sold acc. Also, EVERYTHING in this game is rng, from pvp to rewards, crafting and all.
you buy from g2g a accoutn for 6$ or so and change all the info on it so u fully own it, than you get a vpn and connect it to south korea in order to play.
If the gear power disparity is anything like ArcheAge you’re dramatically understating what a whale can do. Even glass cannons aren’t really glass if overgeared and they can one shot entire groups of enemies if they have AoEs. Hopefully these developers are smarter than to allow that kind of disparity. But they’re both pay to win Korean grinder games so….
Good video overal, but P2W take is brainded/big cope. The fact that most pvp activities is mass PVP doesn't change shit, nothing is stops guilds to have restrictions to invite only whales, we've seen that a lot in past, which end up those guilds dominate mass PVP. Yeah you right 1 whale can't do shit against 3 average F2P gamers, but 100 whales will shit on 300 average F2P gamers and it's not even close.
That is definitely paid to win. The point is will anybody take advantage of it. Typical mobile games that are paid to win are pretty expensive I've spent five grand and still wasn't in the top 10 with some people on my server spending $100,000. I don't see a rich whale spending that kind of money for a console game. I could be wrong though. I'm just excited for the game I can't wait to play.
So basically this is a water down Aion. Better graphics but it has all the same objectives aion had except, from what I see, Aion pvp was more exciting that what I've seen in this off spring. But I'm in the CBT. It's alot like how NCSofts Aion.
I havent played it but I believe you forgot one thing. This is the first mmorpg I see in years that is so optimised with so many people in screen. It's actually fucking insane. No lag, no fps drops, nada.
Exacto tronko)
Facts
LOL this is such a lie. I saw the PvP, it’s like anfucking slide show for streamers…. 4090’s and they get 10-15 fps 😂😂😂
@@Kruk1975 try to find other game with 4k ppl in pvp in one zone ) ofc you need good pc
Second to that is gw2 wvw but even that is lagging with 80ppl on the screen
This game is giving me a lot of Aion vibes, with a good balance of pvp and pve. I am not a pvp player, but loved the pocket healer experience in Aion pvp. Gonna try for the different experience.
Aion Combat was 10x better then this game not even close
it's a mix between ncsoft games, you'll find some lineage, aion, gw2, etc.. in it.
Andrey, this type of videos are the ones I need. Not too much time talking. Just a realtive short video explaining the important parts of the game. Very effiecient and thats what I like, keep it up!
Yo! Appreciate your support man!
Couldn’t agree more my exact thoughts - brilliant review
@@91benp Thx for support! )
You had me at Lineage.
Rofl. The game is made by NCSoft and was planned to be named "Lineage Eternal".
I loved all the PvP bosses in Lineage 2!
I vividly remember how 20 of us held 300 people for 5 hours so the damn boss to srespawn!
l2 was so good
I played on korean servers at release and also during the closed beta for western servers, the game is really good.
I'm a big mmo player, and it has a good balance between pvp, solo content, and stuff you CANNOT DO without a team.
There is open world content that reminds me of gw2 world bosses or dynamic events, but also instanced content, which is good.
I don't remember if you can fish or not, but it could be a nice feature if it's not present, active content is cool but it's important to have "chill" activities in a mmorpg.
Great video man thanks for you thoughts, Lineage 2 was a big part of our lives for many years this looks to have the same vibes. Cant wait to try it.
Hey Andrey thx for the video, is the 1st video i seen from you, the algoritm of youtube brings me here :p you did great work in this video it has a very solid information and greatly explained, so again thanks for the video and keep doing this way.
Yooo!! Thx for the warm words :)
Hopefully Amazon won’t F the game up… I agree 100%, it’s a very fun and engaging game. Pay to win is not the worst I have seen, if you play enough you will be able to make plenty of money on the AH to progress your toons. Overall, there are more positives than negatives imo… I agree with your conclusion!
ah yes... a player injected real money market for items "not the worst". this is so incredibly bad man. defending p2w in a MMO just itself makes me not taking this comment seriously.
amazon already fked it up with what they showed us in the beta.
bad combat system, boring quests and boring story, bad "black desert"-like movement, p2w from the beginning and controlling the games progression speed, same New World problem here again with a "better get in the big guilds or you are done"-system where a hand full of guilds controll the economy, bad skill learning/progression system like getting bombarded from level 1 with all those skills who in the hell thought this is a good idea... just makes people go look up builds cause of how overwhelming this is and thats bad cause everyone is gonna run the same stuff in the end...
the only good things for me so far with this game was the visuals... amazing... i liked the morph system and its potential... i liked the way you interact with NPCs and the small instanced Quest rooms with the Questgivers even tho i guess many dont like this and prefer the good old "npc in open world everyone interacts with" questing experience... also liked how alive the world felt but this is also depending on player numbers and how big the servers are...
the only monetization they should have done is cosmetics and a non p2w purely cometics battlepass maybe since these days not having a battlepass makes people angry which is crazy to me... battlepasses in MMOs is in general a weird concept i dont get...
@@Sgt_REDshot answer , haters gonna hate
@@Anxeas1 they also called lost ark pay to win "not the worse" and the game is dead now
Great game @ 250 hours and still going. Haven’t even played my ashes alpha since it came out because I’m so hooked.
I am also in 400+ hours in game still having fun and i havent even maxed any of my epic gear to +9 yet there are plenty of game content to try but probably Paxdei will be a better mmo and it will launch on the same dates
Oh and there is also chrono odyssey
No matter what you say i spent around 350 - 400 usd in the game you can buy gear dissolve use it to disolve / you can buy gem from ah to directly upgrade anything you want you need plenty of lucent(premium currency)
So it’s definitely pay2win but who cares even wow is p2w you can buy gold and craft 460-483 gear or directly buy from ah
Just try the game and see if you like it or not dont hate on before the start
how will paxdei be better did u see it ? its more of a survival mmo , nothing to do with pvp or skills in depth , building an dstuuf , totally different thing brother
@@ecosti read their official interview they specifically said this will not be a survival mmo no starvation no sleeping no limited ammo but you build cities together and its not p2w thats the biggest win
@@goldenplectrum9695 but there is no pvp to be p2w xD maybe im wrong but from the feature i sa and stuff looks like a boring game building simulator
@@ecosti yea lets hope they bring more content bc i heard game is going to be full pve as you said i am counting on chrono odyssey more than any mmo right now hype is real😄
@@goldenplectrum9695 bro its alread confirmed , the next half of the map will open up so many new zones , 1 more castle for siege , the pvp rift and boomstone is strictly gvg, u will get more dungeons , they will add dungeons difficulties to choose for more rewards , arenas 2v2 3v3 6v6 , new weapona coming first is spear , and big servers vs servers pvp events , pls new armor sets epic tier2, new bosses , abd some changws to the pvp events bevoming blues vs reds ppl split in 2 teams and pvp.
Imo the content was enough already , u have ur pvp and u know when it is , i dont want a 2md life mmo again , i dont want full daillies , i wanna go lut for a beer and skip the game for a day or two with out feeling im far behind now, so i feel its perfect as it is
superb content, got my sub
🤟 thx for support
This game looks OP.
For me combat system is everything in MMOs,I am huge fan of Tera.
TL combat system is similar to ArcheAge and ArcheAge combat system is ok.
If this game was action combat like Tera or Bdo it will be next big thing but now I don’t know.
Need grind and focus to PVE content because many players do not like PVP.
imo. i think its worse than AA combat system. that said compare to when TnL first launched till now, has been an improvement. but i'd still consider Tnl combat system to be below AA. in comparison between AA and TnL, AA is way more fluid. if you play TnL, it becomes very apparent that this game was originally a mobile game. the combat system feels like mmo games i've played on my iphone.
if i have to make an example. Assuming you havent played TnL and have played AA. if you played darkrunner in AA, there is a skill called precision strike from the battlerage tree.you can use that melee skill while moving, jumping, running, etc. it comes out fluid and doesnt lock your character one place.
Well in Tnl, similar skills to that, big single target skills that does burst melee damage are all character animation movement locked. you cant do it while jumping, moving, etc. you have to be one tile same place.
@glyphsuritos6588 nah you lost when you mentioned this was supposed to be a phone game which was never the case.
@@allreli6943 i know i hurt your weenie baby boy feelings. but this game was originally supposed to be a mobile game, that was repurposed to be a lost ark competitor after lost ark success, that was then repurposed as a mmo pc game/console game.
if you actually played this game way back before the combat revamp and when they had astral hunting. itd only take you one day of playing to make you come to the same conclusion that this is some frankenstein mobile esque game that was rehashed to be launched on pc. it had AUTO FARMING, AUTO PATHING, and AUTO QUESTING, all aspects you see in mobile games. the combat system was a literal stiff lock-on no-fluidity dog shiet combat game.
the game you're playing right NOW on kr, is a huge improvement from when it first released you knuckle draggin moron. back then you couldnt even move your character around to auto attack and use skills, you were animation locked. much different now where at least you can move around when autoattacking. skilss are still animation/movement locked.
also TnL have made improvements on their anti-botting system. back then, it was fooking bad. bots everywhere, it was killing the game. but i can see improvements now where places used to be infested with bots are now clearing up.
this dumas doesnt realize this game has been in developement since 2011. project TL has been for 6 years, but clearly people dont remember this game was originally slated as lineage eternal. but was constantly rebranded, restructured again and again with continous delays because management/leadership couldnt decided on anything, because they were stuck chasing the trend back then. when mobile games were popping off back then, and then they saw lost ark becoming successful. which you can tell if you zoom out the character in-game, the TnL fov looks like a lost ark game at a certain angle. and then now back to being a 3-d mmo cuz they've finally decided to do a dual console/pc release of the game. which will be very helpful for the growth/popularity of TnL.
TLDR; nah, im right.
Hate pvp!!
I played TL beta and im HYPED! I think its PAY TO RUSH(get great gear first, but can call pay to win cus you probably will owning people since day 1)
I'm PVE player must Raiding or Playing WOW mythic plus, i hope TL get some content like that to keep me playing and i will dont cara about P2W.
BTW: WOW Black Market is just mounts or transmog with no stats
You a very cool guy. I will be playing and streaming this game once it releases on Europe, and i will definitely be sending many of my people to watch any guide you have for this game.
Appreciate you.
Thank you appreciate it man :)
I agree! this game has the most potential right now.
Que piensas 5 meses después?
@@aguss3163i think its gonna be between this game and new world thats re-releasing next month.
played for 2-3 weeks on the start and for me pvp was nog enough.. i hope they bring more clan pvp etc
I miss silkroad online :(
Thank you for the heads up for the price range! 3-20k real money!
Thank you for saving lives cuz technically time is the most valuable currency we have. Nonsarcasm.
Its definitely a port to mobile type feel. When you move, you can't move at an angle sort of. its like you can move in left to right, and up and down, and it feels like you can't twist on the axis. you short of shift along the access. so if you want to move to 2'olock you sort of gotta strafe and shift to the angle you want to move it. I think in current games if you want to move at an angle, its more natural. In this game you can only move 12, 3, 6, and 9 oclock with ease. but the other directions are difficult, not fluid, no smooth, not natural. so the movement and combat is very asian 2010s. So basically its like a good looking Asian MMO from the early 2010s. Or a cutting edge mobile from 2024. Its literally 2024, how can you make moving at a curve impossible without shifting the camera at the same time?? hahah
if all classes have aoe skills (for pvp and pve) that can combo a group of people with increasing respawn time everytime you die, this will be a very fun game for me. if i can get all contents without paying even if going to endgame is a little grindy, i'd still take it
I played Korea completely free, and was high above average, more grind = will give you more then money 100%.
I really wanted some mmorpg with Lineage 2 type of combat/pvp after so many years, even if it isnt really popular nowadays
My main problem with MMOs is that there is drama between guilds...
Since I had drama on Defiance 2050 (RIP), Destiny 1, Bless Unleashed and Neverwinter I decided to play SOLO...
translation: I played 300hours of Throne and Liberty so you dont have to
for me hands down the best mmo of last 2 decades after lineage 2 , they removed most abuse u could do in lineage 2 pk etc etc , made pvp optional mostly which again its fine , they making insanly nice cvhanges and updates , looks amazing feels amazing and fluid , the grind its not so much to get repetitive , with adding the arenas and if they implement guild wars so u cna pvp freely between 2 guilds that they have open war between them then it wil be legendary , the p2w its there but in this form and IF they keep it like that its very acceptable and this is coming from a huge hater of p2w
It reminds me a lot of Lost Ark. I have about 650 hours in that game. Hopefully it remains lively because bots killed Lost Ark and it eventually became a ghost town. I'm going to buy the early access right now and hop in.
do you like tab targeting or action combat more? what feels better?
Loved the vid mate 😁👍
@@Rugrat thank you )))
Not sure if I missed it or anyone else asked, but is there a crafting/gathering system?
From what Ive played so far, yes - you can gather materials over the world and then you can craft gear etc. but how much are these interconnected I cannot tell. IT seemed like Im gathering different materials then I needed for my new dagger for example.
@0:05 TaL has not Launched yet. Closed Beta is in the process atm. Nice Video btw. :)
Yo! It was on Korea :) but yeah , waiting. Thx
Lol what. Bruh
@@pe3396 lol what what? )
Hey dude, thanks for the review!
Are there any nice damage over time options for this game?
Like not just one skill on one weapon, but as an actual viable playstyle with diverse options?
Thanks!
Wands are pretty dope with DoT skills (2 of them) and then you can explode them ) slow but big numbers in the end
Бро ты пример для меня ❤️ я за тобой слежу теперь у меня мечта тоже такая учиться англизкий и стать геймером уже все пошло канал вот набрал 600 скоро буду 1000 и англизкий тоже изучаю удачи тебе бро
Воу!! Спасибо за поддержку :) вперед! Все получиться!!)
Thank you for this cool video! And man, your T-Shirt is fire!
ahah thx for support man! T-shirt is just right for weekend chill, if you what I meant :D
I am generally not big on PvP but I will give it a shot. It may not keep my involved for years like Everquest back in the day but a am sure I can get a couple hundred hours out of it.
looks pretty good honestly.
Not a MMO amateur here, but I'm really enjoying the experience for the moment, even if I'm REALLY in early game ( lvl 20 ).
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Is there any inspiration taken from Lineage 2? I didn't have time to try out any beta sadly.
I just got my answer that there is, I was just impatient.
Very excited for this game and new world on console
If this game didn't have so much P2W, it would probably be the best MMORPG of the year.
But it's a choic3 you can still ignore andnpla7
@@kurokuro1516 that type of mentality is exactly what allows companies to get away with P2W, absolutely stupid.
P2W and Pay for convenience is a different thing... Just stop being a bitch and earn it in game and grind for it if you don't wanna £££
When the endgame is pvp a lot of players do want to play this mmo. Most people are pve players and when whaling doesnt bring you anything in endcontent means not many people will whale.
I will try the full release as F2P ... possibly the worst idea but the beta hooked me too much. So many refreshing things Ive encountered. The live dungeons just like in Albion, interesting characters and builds. Combat felt nice even though sometimes cluncky (could use a little bit of smoothening). Overall I felt like playing a new MMORPG .. not a copy of something established so Im wondering why people hate this so much besides the P2W
Not sure why so many people are complaining about P2W. Almost every single game is P2W. Look at the iOS store, all those games are P2W. If people dont like P2W games they should stick to Shooter games or Single player games.
i think that for the west, the compatition part would better be filtered out.
a % partisipated reward struckture.
the compatition works better in koria, where people open their wallet, and let money do the talking.
in the west, we don't have that so mutch.
if amazon is working on that, than the "non-global" release is better.
i understand compatition is in our blood.
we do tent to give up on games, when wales dominate everything.
our compatitions are more skill based, than money based.
having the same 250 wales dominate wvery event en all other players getting scaps, will kill the game in the long run.
prove me wrong.
Hey do you have any info when the game coming out pls ?
Nope (
When McGregor has no more people to beat in MMA and joins TnL for a new challenge 😆
Best mmorpg I've played in a while
First negative point: many people already played to the game so you will have rushers that will know everything about the game direct from the get go. Which is something important cause PvP means rushing to have the best possible gear / skills / spells / items / food / pots... to crush opponents.
cry about it.. u can do the same and if u dont have time for it then it might be not ur business anyway go play pve then
@@KeViNaNoViC Well not crying Kevin just saying something true but if it gives you a sensation of power good news is that even with all that will still be able to kick your ass IG 🤣
There is good news, don't buy the early access , let all the whales and zoomers rush to end game
The fresh servers should in theory be less sweat
they probably wil take the head start when it launches on 17sept, yet they wil be in seperate servers and all f2p will be grouped together btw
Does this even need to be said? Doesn't this happen in every single game? lol
Ngl the hype for me died after hearing about bots, p2w and knowing we're gonna be 1 year behind Korea content wise
It’s completely normal to be behind the Korean version however it will still be aligned to it for improvements so we in better situation than Koreans
@@jovanmajs8705 normalizing being behind is the problem. I don't agree with 1 or 2 weeks behind but fine I'll take that... Now we're talking about probably a year. What will they do? Rush content to be up with Korea and create FOMO among the players while milking their money that way, that's how they make western players p2w even if they're against it. If you're gonna fall for it fine but I'm out.
@@marcioabreu1150 I'm sure I'll see you there o7. Especially with the hotdog water mmos currently out lol
@marcioabreu1150 your overthinking it buddy. Games have done this in the past like Maplestory and all that does is when it does reach Global it's much more refined and better. Plus it's always fun to see what's coming up ahead something to get excited about.
@@LiquidGas0 are you seriously give me Mapplestory as an example? A game where it's population is mostly children and teens and has a history of massive fraud?! If I was overthinking how come this sht keeps happening again and again. You sound like you overcoping buddy. How about trying a game from scratch at the same time as everyone else have you thought about that? Guess not... Cause today's gamers only know how to do things with a step by step guide made 8 months prior... Thats no longer playing a game, that's performing a task.
Do we have a release date yet ? And has there been a beta for ps5
Next month July 18 open beta ps5 pc Xbox
i want to know the downsides and the cons. im not interested in the pros, pros will speak for themself. so i will have to wait until i hit lvl 50 and complete the whole campaign before i can play with friends?
He talks cons at 25:00. Watch the whole video lol.
I actually find it better than BDO. easier to play, even the graphics is easier to the eyes. BDO is to chaotic for my taste. Although, I did love the BD mobile version (for a while) But, TL is a little better on more things. Combat is a little stiff (specially for Melee) but, Range is okay. Overall, it's a good mmorpg. Sometimes boring, but overall great
Thank you.
Beta is only one week.
Any advice on how to use that time?
Play your weapons, test if you like them. Try to get as much as possible skill books and lvl up skills - you will feel difference. Find a guild to try pvp and siege )
Thanks
Will the global release be only for PC? Or it will be released simultaneously on consoles as well?
Honestly I dont know, but looks like it will all together
@@AndreyPLK thank you bro
@@johnerickrivera3021 now during CBT, all platforms are together. So yes ps5 and xbox !
How about gate keep in dungeons do they have it here?
a perfect MMORPG for me...i love PVP massive PVP
The question I have, is will I get anywhere in the game if I have a day job? So I can only play a few hours a night, and I'm not prepared to swipe. So can I get anywhere with these conditions? Or should I pass?
I guess u need to pay 5k so u fine.
Can you just play a game to enjoy it and not worry? Tf is wrong w u
So 1 character will be enough to do everything done yes?
I mean we don't have to make many alts like other MMO, right?
Correct, it’s like in FF14 , you can change weapon and “class” anytime
The fact that we don't have a global release date is starting to scare me. They should have released it when it had all the hype and good publicity, I am worried the player base will not be very large because they are waiting so long.
Yeahhh… global release is a big mystery
It is releasing on july chill out
@@goldenplectrum9695 yo, really?)
@@goldenplectrum9695 source?
@@AndreyPLK yeah not a guaranteed date but high possibility
Can you pay for power or time skips?
Nope
You can. The copium is insane
Hi Andrey, Can I use the information of your video to make a video in portuguese?
I mean if you will use it for materials, make original videos and not just translate it in Portugese - sure go for it man! It is All for the community anyway :) Just mention my channel somewhere please
can you reset the skills in this game?
Yes, you can reset attributes and swap skills to other weapons
you can use an item to transfer the lv of 1 skill to another of the same type, the item cost premiun currency but time to time they have gift some or put them on events/promos
all progress of beta will be wiped for gamestart in september?
@@Funky1091 yup!
thank's for video, now i can think twice to play or no, before i think this meh, now i feel like soso for try it.
For few months, could be really good
is it out yet because it is not available on my steam till 7th september
In KR it´s launched long ago, Global release will be in September
If you haven't you should revisit the game. I heard that it changed in terms of mechanics 😁
@@SupergirlJLM a lot!! And it’s a lot of fun new stuff))
there is a olympiad system like L2? did devs talked about it or something similar?
Devs said that arena and battlegrounds are coming
With being able to swap classes via weapons what is the incentive to make alternate characters? This is where you know the microxsactins are going to be ridiculous!
I'm getting "we didn't learn from 20 years of dead Asian grindfest crab bucket mmos" vibes from this one
êvery MMO is grindy
Crab bucket is full
This game will be grindy. But there's a lot of people who really enjoy grindy MMOs. This isn't a bad thing
You're in luck! There is an option called " dont play ". No one likes a downer debbie. Go play hello kitty or some thing. Hope this helps
I like the grind though. Go play a hero shooter or something, this is not for you clearly.
I’m confused is this a review video or guide ?? Good video nether-less
@@MLove1991 dunno man :)) but thx for support
@@AndreyPLK is it okay to level up as a healer ? I am healer at the heart . Will I have any difficulties levelling up to max level ?
@@MLove1991 as you have 2 weapons to choose from, choose wand (healing weapon) and anything else to lvl up. Staff is the best synergy for early game and hybrid play style - my choice )
I get PTSD from new world when anyone is saying drama and betraying people is fun. In the end if you are a leader of large alliance and this kind of shit happens it feels like waste of time when you spend nearly 24/7 a day managing kids.
Your guildmates spend 'around $500'!? and that's not alot of money. This is one of the most P2W games ever made.
So its Guild Wars 3/Lineage 3 basically lol. Not that I am bothered by that.
Does this game require pvp participation or can pll focus on pve only?
Yup, its just limited in this game, I meant pve
you have the trait system a little wrong.
You say you need over 9 of the same item ( you used chest as an example) to finish it, that's not true. You can use trait unlockstones which can be gained from dungeon farming (crafting with the boss tokens) , lithograph, or weekly reward, for a chest, you need 50 per trait slot unlock and you can choose what they become.
let's assume you also got unlucky and got a bad initial trait, you can change the first trait for 50 unlockstones and a currency you can buy from the guild vendor. so at most this is 150 unlockstones assuming you don't get a duplicate chest to drop in the mean time.
After you have completed your unlocks, you don't actually need dupe's of the same item, you just need ANY chest piece with the same trait to upgrade the trait tier.
i feel like this is important to address because you make it sound much more p2w than it is, that it's basically out of range of f2p but it's not, it's slower yes, but it's doable.
@@loxybee2411 hey thank you for info :) it’s just, when this video was made, there was different systems in the game
The game will be next to TRAHA GLOBAL they will closed in how many months you know why? Because both TRAHA and THRONE AND LIBERTY HAS NO PLAYER TO PLAYER TRADE there is no purpose of playing a game where on the developer and company are earning
You know you can trust the video when:
Slavic name: Check
Slavic accent: Check
Korean game: Check
Refereces L2: Check
welcome to lost ark 2.0
Can you fly in this game? Not glide or fly for 10 seconds lol but with big open world games I like to fly
bdo veteran here (7 years) we have similar p2w things ! and there are people like this dude defending it by saying the same ....it's expensive to p2w u need to pay a lot to get one item. that excuse been used every time someone ask if bdo is p2w.....yet everyone p2w and game added more p2w items throughout the years. now even healing is p2w sadly.
i see this game going that route. not a game to invest ur time into ! i thinkt his game just to try and move on to next mmo.
@@mindshifter5772 well yeah, probably you are correct)
Is the game tab targeting or like New world ?
You choose mode, it could any of those
It looks like a grind for EVERYTHING (with boring quests like every other MMO)... no thanks from me
how did you get to play it? did you use proxy or something? and this game is mostly pvp? yea i'm out
Where you play? Global release is 12.09
@@saxider9144 on Korea )
@@AndreyPLK can you make some video how play on korea with vpn? 😊
i played 200h and i got enough. P2W pve game with mini game of pvp. 90% of the time u just do same pve contracts, dungeons and rune dungeons. Conveyor like feeling, open world grind is meaningless, even if you want to grind for gear, you are limited and can do 2 co-op dungeons, 10 contracts and thats it for day, all progression is from these daily things, while p2w isnt capped. PvP is crap in general, you either miss everything or one tap. These daily tasks take ~2h max to complete, world events are useless in terms of rewards (all of them give same reward, just some give more gold than others). If you want to progress faster, you will need multi accounts. They added "rune" system just to add some longevity to game, since it is brainless grind of going through same dungeon over and over and if you dont want to grind same dungeon like a zombie, you will fall behind. Got myself 4200 gs and sold acc. Also, EVERYTHING in this game is rng, from pvp to rewards, crafting and all.
They could have easily called this Lineage 3
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question is how you get chance to play the game, i cant find a way to enter in game
It was Korean Release man
you buy from g2g a accoutn for 6$ or so and change all the info on it so u fully own it, than you get a vpn and connect it to south korea in order to play.
If the gear power disparity is anything like ArcheAge you’re dramatically understating what a whale can do. Even glass cannons aren’t really glass if overgeared and they can one shot entire groups of enemies if they have AoEs.
Hopefully these developers are smarter than to allow that kind of disparity. But they’re both pay to win Korean grinder games so….
when is global release?
Неплохо разговариваешь на англ. так держать)
Йо!
I'm a PVE only player I don't enjoy PVP, so is this game not worth it for me?
Can the screenshake be turned off in this game ?
Yes
i like how u described the p2w of this game.
Good video overal, but P2W take is brainded/big cope. The fact that most pvp activities is mass PVP doesn't change shit, nothing is stops guilds to have restrictions to invite only whales, we've seen that a lot in past, which end up those guilds dominate mass PVP. Yeah you right 1 whale can't do shit against 3 average F2P gamers, but 100 whales will shit on 300 average F2P gamers and it's not even close.
That is definitely paid to win. The point is will anybody take advantage of it. Typical mobile games that are paid to win are pretty expensive I've spent five grand and still wasn't in the top 10 with some people on my server spending $100,000. I don't see a rich whale spending that kind of money for a console game. I could be wrong though. I'm just excited for the game I can't wait to play.
p2w TL;DR: you can pay to win but expect to die when 3 people come to kill you.
WHEN IS COMING OUT? 🤩🤩🤩
Sad. Im not a fan of "guild most content games" but im sure, others will have fun with it.
the immersion...work in real life to make it in the game life.
So basically this is a water down Aion. Better graphics but it has all the same objectives aion had except, from what I see, Aion pvp was more exciting that what I've seen in this off spring. But I'm in the CBT. It's alot like how NCSofts Aion.
Is it just me or does the ui style look like lost ark?
Yo, what is Hi style?)