If you want something too in depth or tailored for you, I will be doing a stream tomorrow (Dec. 6th) to break things down for you guys and get you prepared for KR release! And day 1 I am going 24h+ on stream so be sure to be there to not miss out on the action! P.S These numbers could get updated, but if any updates are of major significance on the builds, I will update that later!
Hi Bro! Thank you for your work. I would really like to take a closer look at the build of the tank with daggers. I will be very grateful to you. First of all, what to wear, what stats to pump, and the build itself with rotation. I am grateful in advance.
I'm lvl 29 and dagger main with crossbow..but 8 out of 10 I see online people say that build is not as good as other build.. I don't want to change my build now.
I would like to see if possible Sword and dagger build for PVP more in details I mean items like armors where to look what rings to use etc. If possible was really good to know more. Thank You
I just started I’m lvl 9 chose daggers and shield. Do you know what skill points are good I think I messed them up and what skills to upgrade.. looking for some help
Might be a silly question but i'm missing frenzied sword dance and I can't see how you get it anywhere. Anyone know? Do you have to do something extra?
I found out how you get them, it says obtainable in resistance event shich is scheduled for the 31 Jan after the last livestream from the devs @@Shikku1996
Wand has really good dmg and same does bow, and Wand/Bow is the best support. However, this game is NOT solo friendly to ANY weapons in any way, shape or form as the game's main focus is parties and guilds and building a community basically, so I recommend having a constant party, and even better, join a big active guild!
Big question, most of the guild members are saying g my build won’t be as good as it could because I wanna play dagger/bow and not bow/dagger or dagger/xbow. I’m a l2 massive old school fan since C1 and for me a dagger full cannon has only 1 result, kill someone and instantly dies I love the fact to be able of reset hide skill or the blink what can be used as offensive/defensive. That being said would mind helping me with some info regarding what gear stats to aim for ?? Cheers
@@Shikku1996 got it, I’m level 32 at the moment mainly lvling dagger skills and a few on the bow binding active and passive. Is it too late to change the whole build and follow your advice ?? Thanks
When you say mainingg xbow first what does that include? I just started today, lvling up the X bows skills first?? Also what stat's should I focus on being xbow/Dagger then transitioning into dagger/xbow
@@AMSFITNESSx Meaning level up your Xbow skills and weapon first, and I would recommend getting Quick Fire and Mortal Mark to Blue then to Purple ASAP. At end game, you pretty much become BOTH a Dagger and an Xbow bow main since this build is a hybrid build but the reason you push Xbow early is because it's much better than dagger throughout the early stages of the game and makes your leveling easier. (both suck compared to some other weapons though during leveling sadly lol)
Can not wait to play. Sword and Shield / Great sword as I have played Tank in so many games. Will be looking for a guild . Not sure to play on PC or X Box. What do you suggest? Great video.
May not know until we see numbers... Might be worth looking at data, but things will probably change by the release in the west... But play style it seems to be very synergistic.
Great content bro! Just checked out your Twitch stream I think I'm going for GS/SnS. One question though, Do you think Davinci's courage is worth taking in PVP to make yourself even tankier? it gives you an extra 1500 HP for 20 secs at max level but I think you mentioned somewhere it's been nerfed Also just curious how many times you can level up a skill at max
@@Shikku1996 Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong but you can upgrade each of your skills like from green to blue and then to purple, etc., right? And I think I saw somewhere that within each grade there are five levels? So does it count up to 20 levels in total, or no?
looking for something more in depth for SnS/daggers, is it good for PvE? As I would like to level up both weapons. Or is SnS/GS better for PvE? Eventual focus is PvP
Tanks are never good in PvE except for well, tanking. So my tip for tanks and healers as always as follows: 1-Level up 1 DMG skill or 2 to get you through the initial content 2-DO NOT play solo lol
Is there any need for dedicated healers in this game tho? Since there are quite a few popular dps builds with tome as secondary (main even), there will be a lot of players who can just toss a heal or two whenever...meaning that you'll always have someone in a party who can heal. Wouldn't that make someone who specialises in just healing be completely useless? Asking mainly cuz I wanted to play the main heal build, but I'm worried it will leave me with no teams to play and progress with.
Actually dedicated healers and tanks are on VERY high demand in the game cause they're so scarce, and an off healer is never anywhere as good as a player who is committed to support!
I would recommend holding that question off until tomorrow and asking me later again here or on stream as there is a very high chance the meta will be changed completely tomorrow.
Really? 2 handed sword is probably also used by some because of the buffs, I think there are a couple healer combos and each has pros and cons. What you end up playing is more a matter of flavor.
I want to play dagger/crossbow but I see mixed messages about it online. Some people say it's bad. How has your experience been with that build now that you've played for a while?
It’s ABSOLUTELY terrible at early game, meh mid game, and end game it gets A LOT better once you have enough gear and stats for it. Just as a tip: Main Xbow until end game, and main dagger once you get your purple weapons
@@Shikku1996 one last thing on gts/dagger combo why we choose perception man stat and dexterity second and not using strength stat? Or is it because we go for full crit dps bulid so strength doesn't give us so much value?
@@aspylos12 GS/Dagger DEX is the main stat not Perception You will get perception to 20 or so then start putting everything into DEX And STR is bruiser style rather than Crit which is what we aim for in this build
Great video! One question, dont u think that the dps combo of greatsword and dagger could be better using plate armor and focusing con strength? Because i think that with de poison and the stun i already have a lot of crits, and with the movement skills i have a lot of evation. So if i focus on strength i think i would do a lot of damage, have a lot of hp, and very nice defense. On the other hand, if a focus on dex, of course i will have more crits and evation, but i dont know if thats worth more than the hp and defense. What do u think about that?
The issue here is, the only armor type that gives you BOTH magic and range evasion in this game is leather armor, and guess who is your worst enemy in mass PvP? Yup, range and magic, that’s why leather is my preferred choice! For PvE and/or small scale PvP though I can definitely see your idea working well!
@@Shikku1996 Thanks! Are you planning on doing guides for specific builds where you show which skills and stats to lvl, as well as which skill tree follow?
Really interested in SnB + Dagger off meta tank build. Seems like coulr be extremely fun in pvp. Just wondering if stats would be spread too thin between STR/DEX/PER. A SnB + GS could soley focus on STR/PER. Would the dagger passives for evasion be enough without pumping dex? Could you main tank as easily in pve?
To be fully honest even though I spent hours theorycrafting a PvP build, I think I need to wait until I see how all the changes play out on release before I can recommend a solid PvP build, so stay tuned for one in the future!
Shikku, man you are such a lifesaver, great job on the weapon build video. I need help with my GS/Dagger build. So just a few questions, 1) I see you did not take the willbreaker skill, i understand the base dmg is nerfed now however they buffed the def reduction to 400. Is there a reason why you are not including this skill in the build? Is it only useful in like pve situations? How significant is 400 def reduction? 2) Mana issues, the mana cost on both GS & dagger still looks pretty high, how bad will mana consumption be for a full melee build? Some footages i saw melees had long gaps between skills and just auto-attacking because they are constantly running out of mana. 3) The only "mana" skill/passive we have is Victor's morale "Upon dealing dmg with skills, restores 19 mana". Is this passive per skill or per hit as i understand some skills might have multiple hits like valiant brawl. Copium i hope its per hit
1-Actually I am simply very skeptical about that skill as the numbers seem very small, but since I don’t know what changes could have taken place on base defensive stats do play around with the skill and see if it’s worth it, I will be keeping an eye out too! 2-Mana issues can be really annoying indeed but I think the mana regen passive should make life a lot better and passive procs even on skills! Hope this helped ♥️
In every Korean based RPG you go long bow. Every other built makes no sense since u get mostly rooted or don’t even have the chance to get an enemy’s close enough. Bow and great sword
SnS / Wand build is pretty much out of touch with reality and how skills works in general. Leveling this build would be a nightmare, not even speaking pvp wise.
@@eziafterglow23 Yaah, but the problem is thst isn't strong enough and its tough loosing valuable passive slot for reflection, taunt range is a bit meh and you have better option to generate agro tbh
If you want something too in depth or tailored for you, I will be doing a stream tomorrow (Dec. 6th) to break things down for you guys and get you prepared for KR release!
And day 1 I am going 24h+ on stream so be sure to be there to not miss out on the action!
P.S These numbers could get updated, but if any updates are of major significance on the builds, I will update that later!
@9:10 Staff and Wand build - for me to reference back to later :)
I just remembered I forgot to add time stamps…
I apologize!
I really love being the magic guy in the party 😊
@@Shikku1996 what stats i need to put for staff and wand?
do you have video for ‘skill point “ allocation like how many in dex, str etc ?
Will make one soon!
@@Shikku1996 waiting to see
is there a wiki for the actives passives?
More details about sns and dagger? Heavy or lether armor? Str or dex more? Thx
Daggers and bow if there are hot dots for the bow switch back to daggers to do more damage.
if you go with that, bow is better being your main and dagger secondary and make use of crit build and use the crit passives from dagger
You gonna do some updated video of this?
I might close to release!
Hi Bro! Thank you for your work. I would really like to take a closer look at the build of the tank with daggers. I will be very grateful to you. First of all, what to wear, what stats to pump, and the build itself with rotation. I am grateful in advance.
Great video, I was anticipating this. I am curious how the buffs/nerfs to the skills will affect the builds.
I went over the changes and so far not much, I will make sure to update you once I feel like I need to.
Great video man!
Can you do a more in-depth guide for the box/xbow build please?
Which skills do you recommend to level for GS in a GS/Dagge build?
im using long bow and crossbow what stats points need up?
thanks for the video.
Can you do recommended stat build next? I'm playing Bow x Wand
I'm lvl 29 and dagger main with crossbow..but 8 out of 10 I see online people say that build is not as good as other build.. I don't want to change my build now.
Ignore people and play what you enjoy, I will play xbow/dagger too and it’s tons of fun!
How much different is the meta builds vs other builds that you might think are fun. Are all builds valid, just maybe less known?
What stats should i put points in for paladin?
Sword and board is a no brainer if you’ve tanked MMO’s before.
I would like to see if possible Sword and dagger build for PVP more in details I mean items like armors where to look what rings to use etc. If possible was really good to know more. Thank You
Will probably make that soon ♥️
Thank You ☺@@Shikku1996
How about main Longbow secondary Greatsword?
To make as much dmg you can from far and then finish off with Melee.
Is sword and shield + wand having also 2 heals and does it do some nice dps or its mainly shields and heals
I just started I’m lvl 9 chose daggers and shield. Do you know what skill points are good I think I messed them up and what skills to upgrade.. looking for some help
Mate i dmed you on discord can you recommend gear for bow gs build?
Might be a silly question but i'm missing frenzied sword dance and I can't see how you get it anywhere. Anyone know? Do you have to do something extra?
All weapons last skill and last passive will b3 available later in the future!
I found out how you get them, it says obtainable in resistance event shich is scheduled for the 31 Jan after the last livestream from the devs
@@Shikku1996
why do you have different passive skills than me? They look completely different and I only have 7 and not 8 passives
hi I'm trying the following combination: gs+dagger, but I don't know how to put points on the statistics need 30 dex minimum or strength?
I personally would put 25 Perception - 20 STR and rest dexterity and make leather gear for more DEX
Hi man, I don’t really understand how I need to split my level point, I mean dex str etc if I want to play wand and dagger
How is solo leveling as a pure support though? Will it be hard to do damage that you need to clear mobs?
Wand has really good dmg and same does bow, and Wand/Bow is the best support.
However, this game is NOT solo friendly to ANY weapons in any way, shape or form as the game's main focus is parties and guilds and building a community basically, so I recommend having a constant party, and even better, join a big active guild!
@Shikku1996 I'm thinking I will try out staff/wand as I want to do damage and be able to do mass pvp and 1v1s.
@@zanies6882 Staff/Wand is a DPS and an Off support but not a proper support so you can do that
Big question, most of the guild members are saying g my build won’t be as good as it could because I wanna play dagger/bow and not bow/dagger or dagger/xbow.
I’m a l2 massive old school fan since C1 and for me a dagger full cannon has only 1 result, kill someone and instantly dies I love the fact to be able of reset hide skill or the blink what can be used as offensive/defensive.
That being said would mind helping me with some info regarding what gear stats to aim for ?? Cheers
If you love daggers like me, then go with Xbow
Preferably main Xbow until end game, then transition to Dagger being your main at end game!
@@Shikku1996 got it, I’m level 32 at the moment mainly lvling dagger skills and a few on the bow binding active and passive. Is it too late to change the whole build and follow your advice ??
Thanks
When you say mainingg xbow first what does that include? I just started today, lvling up the X bows skills first?? Also what stat's should I focus on being xbow/Dagger then transitioning into dagger/xbow
@@AMSFITNESSx Meaning level up your Xbow skills and weapon first, and I would recommend getting Quick Fire and Mortal Mark to Blue then to Purple ASAP.
At end game, you pretty much become BOTH a Dagger and an Xbow bow main since this build is a hybrid build but the reason you push Xbow early is because it's much better than dagger throughout the early stages of the game and makes your leveling easier. (both suck compared to some other weapons though during leveling sadly lol)
Great advice what about Stats wise? I assume around 20-30 pre then rest on DEX? @@Shikku1996
does the weapon have different skills if its the main weapon vs offhand weapon?
No you always choose which skills you want regardless of main hand or off hand
Nice video. Keep them coming!
I am necromancer lover so dose this game have necrm?
Can not wait to play. Sword and Shield / Great sword as I have played Tank in so many games. Will be looking for a guild . Not sure to play on PC or X Box. What do you suggest? Great video.
both consoles will be supported so play on the one you're more comfortable on lol
I personally just prefer PCs
make a tier list of weapons? Im torn between bow/dagger , crossbow/dagger, bow/crossbow.
Will do soon!
@@Shikku1996what do you think is better?
@@0xNobody bow/dagger > xbow/dagger > bow/crossbow
@@Shikku1996 any sort sum why is that? Im curious. I'll be good with whatever I'll play. Thanks
What is the best platform to play on?
Would Crossbow main and daggers offhand work for crit rate/damage build?
May not know until we see numbers... Might be worth looking at data, but things will probably change by the release in the west... But play style it seems to be very synergistic.
Why is there no GS/Staff ? Please tell me this is not garbage because it's the build I wanna do when the game will finally be out in Europe.
Because it’s only good for PvE grind but comes PvP it’s meh
What website is Shikku looking at in this video that shows the skills and abilities, or, is that his own info and graphics he's compiled.
Try google my friend. If you type "Throne and Liberty Skill Builder" youll get some good results ^^
Wish I could use this video but the games not even out yet lol....
Hi Shikku do you have attributes allocation together with the skills?
I sadly do not but will make guides in the future!
Ok what should I lean to im using staff and wnt.
Great content bro! Just checked out your Twitch stream I think I'm going for GS/SnS. One question though, Do you think Davinci's courage is worth taking in PVP to make yourself even tankier? it gives you an extra 1500 HP for 20 secs at max level but I think you mentioned somewhere it's been nerfed
Also just curious how many times you can level up a skill at max
Thank you ♥️
As for Davinci’s definitely play around with it still but on paper, it’s nerfed.
What do you mean with the last question though?
@@Shikku1996 Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong but you can upgrade each of your skills like from green to blue and then to purple, etc., right?
And I think I saw somewhere that within each grade there are five levels? So does it count up to 20 levels in total, or no?
You are indeed correct, you can upgrade skills to higher tiers and max lvl for each tier is lvl 5.
looking for something more in depth for SnS/daggers, is it good for PvE? As I would like to level up both weapons. Or is SnS/GS better for PvE? Eventual focus is PvP
Tanks are never good in PvE except for well, tanking.
So my tip for tanks and healers as always as follows:
1-Level up 1 DMG skill or 2 to get you through the initial content
2-DO NOT play solo lol
I decided I will focus SnS/GS as I'm mostly a pvp player and it's better for locking people down@@Shikku1996
Is there any need for dedicated healers in this game tho? Since there are quite a few popular dps builds with tome as secondary (main even), there will be a lot of players who can just toss a heal or two whenever...meaning that you'll always have someone in a party who can heal. Wouldn't that make someone who specialises in just healing be completely useless?
Asking mainly cuz I wanted to play the main heal build, but I'm worried it will leave me with no teams to play and progress with.
Actually dedicated healers and tanks are on VERY high demand in the game cause they're so scarce, and an off healer is never anywhere as good as a player who is committed to support!
@@Shikku1996 Oh, that's amazing to hear! In which content are they needed? Just massive pvp/ node wars, or all of PvE and PvP?
@@mithrey Every content lol
They make life easier, we always find ourselves asking for healers/tanks in every thing, PvE, PvP, bosses, etc...
@@Shikku1996 amazing, thank you so much for answering! Can't wait for EU release then, and I know what I'll be playing then haha!
@@mithrey feel free to come join us and bring any friends you may have for EU if you're hardcore!
For bow and daggers which mastery skill tree do you recommend?
I don't remember the full mastery tree of Bow by heart so DM me on discord a screenshot of it and I will help out
i probably want to try both sns/gs and sns/wand.
both are solid!
Sir, could you tell me the website to check all the weapon skills?
tlbuilds.app/profile/shikku96
Which stats should i increase for staff and bow? 🤔 Wisdom and perception?
I would recommend holding that question off until tomorrow and asking me later again here or on stream as there is a very high chance the meta will be changed completely tomorrow.
just found your stream and youtube channel looking forward to thsi game
Aren't wand and two-handed staff better than healers?
I haven't seen anyone with a bow either.
I've seen a lot of bows and it's hella strong, but staff is also good
Really?
2 handed sword is probably also used by some because of the buffs, I think there are a couple healer combos and each has pros and cons.
What you end up playing is more a matter of flavor.
I want to play dagger/crossbow but I see mixed messages about it online. Some people say it's bad. How has your experience been with that build now that you've played for a while?
It’s ABSOLUTELY terrible at early game, meh mid game, and end game it gets A LOT better once you have enough gear and stats for it.
Just as a tip: Main Xbow until end game, and main dagger once you get your purple weapons
@@Shikku1996 Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it! Just got an account and gonna start playing.
How easy is it to swap weapon builds?
As a f2p player, not easy at all, as p2w it's pretty easy
Bow main and dagger second should i go dexterity main and perception secondary stat?
That's right!
@@Shikku1996 one last thing on gts/dagger combo why we choose perception man stat and dexterity second and not using strength stat? Or is it because we go for full crit dps bulid so strength doesn't give us so much value?
@@aspylos12 GS/Dagger DEX is the main stat not Perception
You will get perception to 20 or so then start putting everything into DEX
And STR is bruiser style rather than Crit which is what we aim for in this build
@@Shikku1996 ohh ok i got it,ty a lot bro keep up the good work
not sure if they change something but some skill are missing here.
they indeed changed a lot of the skills!
What do you think about GS ( main) / cbow ?
You can try that if you want to tbh but play around with full crit build leather armor in that case, let me know how it worked for you if you try!
nice, getting ready for west launch:)
dagger+bow or dagger+2h sword best for debuff and high damage?
As long as Dagger is your off-hand in those 2 builds yes they're solid!
you mean by offhand is the secondary weapon or main weapon?@@Shikku1996
Great video! One question, dont u think that the dps combo of greatsword and dagger could be better using plate armor and focusing con strength? Because i think that with de poison and the stun i already have a lot of crits, and with the movement skills i have a lot of evation. So if i focus on strength i think i would do a lot of damage, have a lot of hp, and very nice defense.
On the other hand, if a focus on dex, of course i will have more crits and evation, but i dont know if thats worth more than the hp and defense. What do u think about that?
The issue here is, the only armor type that gives you BOTH magic and range evasion in this game is leather armor, and guess who is your worst enemy in mass PvP? Yup, range and magic, that’s why leather is my preferred choice!
For PvE and/or small scale PvP though I can definitely see your idea working well!
Ty for the answer
what skills do you recommend to lvl for bow+crossbow?
Zephyr, Strafing , and your bow mark early on and make sure you get some perception in to land your root from your bow!
@@Shikku1996 Thanks! Are you planning on doing guides for specific builds where you show which skills and stats to lvl, as well as which skill tree follow?
Which mastery skill tree will you level for crossbow?
For me, I am going the last mastery tree!
Really interested in SnB + Dagger off meta tank build. Seems like coulr be extremely fun in pvp. Just wondering if stats would be spread too thin between STR/DEX/PER. A SnB + GS could soley focus on STR/PER. Would the dagger passives for evasion be enough without pumping dex? Could you main tank as easily in pve?
stats for GS and dagger?
SnS and wand, stat build please
Hi can u explein me diferent b/n GS+ Sword/shild and Sword/Shild + GS
Just a matter of what you main and what you enjoy doing lol
What stats for great sword s&s ?
if you're going tank then make sure you have decent perception and the rest can go into STR/Wisdom
as sns gs what stats i should level up ? just strength ?
STR and Perception
What stats would you have for GS and Dagger
start with getting Perception to 20 and rest DEX
Leather gear
Bro shield and sword pve and pvp build please ? help me ?
PvP dagger/crossbow build please ❤
To be fully honest even though I spent hours theorycrafting a PvP build, I think I need to wait until I see how all the changes play out on release before I can recommend a solid PvP build, so stay tuned for one in the future!
What site did you use for the abilities?
tlbuilds.app/
is it possible to play it for free? is it hard?
What stats would you have for Longbow and Dagger?
DEX for sure!
Make sure you get your perception up too though for higher hit rate and higher chance to land cc and poison and all
@@Shikku1996 Thank you!
it's good combo? dagger + staff?
Yup!
Thanks man... Good work😎
Loving dagger/Xbox - some rogue or hunter RP
Keep it up my friend great video!
Looking foward to see your streaming the game :b
Regards
By: Ang3L
Thank you Ang3L
Great video!
bor why u have 10 skills and i have 9 only ?
We all have 9 skills in game, the 10th skills will be unlocked for us in the future!
Shikku, man you are such a lifesaver, great job on the weapon build video. I need help with my GS/Dagger build. So just a few questions,
1) I see you did not take the willbreaker skill, i understand the base dmg is nerfed now however they buffed the def reduction to 400. Is there a reason why you are not including this skill in the build? Is it only useful in like pve situations? How significant is 400 def reduction?
2) Mana issues, the mana cost on both GS & dagger still looks pretty high, how bad will mana consumption be for a full melee build? Some footages i saw melees had long gaps between skills and just auto-attacking because they are constantly running out of mana.
3) The only "mana" skill/passive we have is Victor's morale "Upon dealing dmg with skills, restores 19 mana". Is this passive per skill or per hit as i understand some skills might have multiple hits like valiant brawl. Copium i hope its per hit
1-Actually I am simply very skeptical about that skill as the numbers seem very small, but since I don’t know what changes could have taken place on base defensive stats do play around with the skill and see if it’s worth it, I will be keeping an eye out too!
2-Mana issues can be really annoying indeed but I think the mana regen passive should make life a lot better and passive procs even on skills!
Hope this helped ♥️
In every Korean based RPG you go long bow. Every other built makes no sense since u get mostly rooted or don’t even have the chance to get an enemy’s close enough. Bow and great sword
Gooooood
SnS / Wand build is pretty much out of touch with reality and how skills works in general. Leveling this build would be a nightmare, not even speaking pvp wise.
This is my build though. I like gathering enemies and taunting them. With the reflect skill or passive(copium) of SnS that would be great.🙏😁🔥
@@eziafterglow23 Yaah, but the problem is thst isn't strong enough and its tough loosing valuable passive slot for reflection, taunt range is a bit meh and you have better option to generate agro tbh
❤ tremendous
No axes and hammers? I was hyped for this game. Not anymore.
maybe soon lol
I play swofd and crossbow and its the best period
U are amazing, ty!
You are!
i need an account pls :(
doing giveaway on stream tomorrow
Is this a p2W game ?
it is pretty p2w but it keeps getting better for f2p players and next month it will be even better for f2p
@@Shikku1996 not my type p2W game. But thanks for the reply. I won’t even bother to download then.