Cora Puts Thomas In His Place | Downton Abbey
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2019
- Cora questions Thomas when he tries to throw Baxter under a bus and get her fired.
From season 5 episode 1: Robert and Carson are dismayed when a Labour government takes power in the general election of 1924.
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I love Cora.
When she's putting people in their place she is so soft spoken and quiet but absolutely savage
Thomas is in reality the luckiest person in the series because he's done enough to get fired just about every season from any job let alone this one
lol right? I love Thomas but up until the last couple seasons, he's a pretty nasty person. But that's what makes him such an enthralling character.
Milfuelle100 he didn’t really get interesting until season 2 for me when you see how nice he can be but even then he’s possibly at his worst there. When Sybil does and the arrival of James is when his character really starts to shine
He is tall and had good looks, and seem to be a good servant, so that was always what the family saw, even if they didn't quite knew everything about whatever goes on below stairs.
@@en1909s9iah well even then, he was more than likely going to get fired in season one but he left to join the war, after that he was only able to get a job at Downton because he helped when Carson got sick and the only reason he was made a Valet then despite the stealing was because someone found Isis after he lost them, and the only reason he wasn't fired here was because the place was literally on fire
I can tell you exactly why. It is because he is tall, young and handsome and carries himself with dignity in the presence of the family. If he wasn't, he'd have been dismissed long ago.
Cora here showed she is a lot smarter than she let's on. She saw through his whole scheme in like 2 minutes.
Don't let her meek, sweet, and gentle demeanor fool ya. Cora is as sharp and nearly on par with Dowager Countess. There are some instances where her Ladyship admits this too.
Yeah, so why did she let that obvious liar and schemer Mrs. OBrien manipulate her and lie to her for years?
That is only thanks to Baxter having told her beforehand, though. She is a lot smarter than she let on, but there is no reason why she wouldn’t have believed Thomas when he said he had only just learned of Baxter’s criminal record.
Cora is such a calm and collected lady who always knows what to say! her manners are elegant and seemless.
I love Cora. I love how kind she is, how always elegant and graceful she appears.
Clearly my role model.
Good role model!
Yes, she is lovely to look at, graceful and kind.
An elitist with heart is still an elitist 🐷.
@@zyxw2024 stop being prejudiced. Just because some are born rich, doesn't mean they're bad. There's a lot of poor people who are bad. It goes both ways, not just one side.
@@zyxw2024 says the suppose humanist. Who doesn't believe in Christ. You know what you're all Hypocrites every single one of you. What do you know about Christians today anyway.
Thomas' mistake here is to assume Baxter wasn't brave enough to reveal her secret to Cora before he does. But thanks to Molseley she was. Despite his cunning mind, Thomas doesn't think things through enough and it often backfires...
Lonely Rat Girl he also assumes the worst and that everything someone does is a plan against him. He thought Bates was hired to spy on the downstairs and he thought the surprise Lady Rose had planned involved people getting let go. His back and forth with Bates is his own doing just about every time.
@@BucketThinkTank14657Nerd Like Ms. Baxter once said, he's his own worst enemy. Half the bad things that happened to him while at Downton are his own doing. It's sad he felt this was the only way to protect himself. He could've had a good time in that place if only he had understood sooner that not everyone would despise him for his homosexuality or try to get advantage of their knowledge for their own gain.
Lonely Rat Girl him being gay was sort of the worst kept secret but until he’s essentially accused of trying to rape James it’s the only time it’s a problem for anyone as it’s all very “ don’t ask don’t tell”. People will tell you he’s nasty, rude, mean, and downright vindictive but that’s it.
@@BucketThinkTank14657Nerd I know but that still was what Thomas thought, that it was a secret to protect at all cost, hence his nastiness and him spying on the upstairs lot, etc.
Had Baxter not revealed her past to Cora, Thomas would have held it over her head to control her.
Ive never seen a threat executed so elegantly Cora is something else
Oh Barrow, I love you forever, but you totally had that coming.
🎶He had it comin, he only had himself to blame🎶
@@ladywhistledownton 😂
This is exactly the sentence I utter very often during the show ;)
Thomas is lucky Edith accidentally set fire to her room, or else he might've been kicked out of the house.
This sentence is amazing out of context
@@CakeHeater 🤣
Cora spooks me. She just sits there..speaks with soft and quiet voice and looks others under her brows..and somehow THAT is what makes her sooooo scary! LoL!
Because out of everyone she is the true powerholder of the household and family, she doesn't have to play it up, she can say volumes, doom lives, with the shadow of her eyelashes.
Cora may not have the, witty stance of the dower or even Mary but gosh Cora is amazing at getting people in line! I kinda love it when Cora gets with a bit of a temper! 😂😍💜
Love Thomas and he's possibly my favourite character but he totally deserved this mini lecture from Cora. It's a miracle he was never fired. He's done so many awful things to deserve it (being gay is obviously NOT one of them). I love his character development.
That whispering voice she has while reprimanding is more efficient than the loudest scream, and such elegant!
Baxter scores! Back of the net!
Loved how Thomas’s nasty little scheme backfired. He looked astonished as Cora ripped into him.
Bravo :)
So strange to see Thomas and Baxter fighting, knowing that they will end up caring about each other
Yes, it's funny. I think that Thomas didn't want to hurt Baxter. He wanted to intimidiate her, but then he would convice Cora not to release her.
But why was he blackmailing her? I thought Barrow never conspires against anyone who’s genuinely kind to him. (Sorry, but I haven’t seen much the show)
@@craigarkensaw He got her the job, on the terms that she would keep him informed about what was happening up- and downstairs (since nobody liked or trusted him enough to confide in him). When she arrived, she refused to follow through, and he saw that as a betrayal.
They knew each other growing up, though. So there may be missing information from back then, too...
She saves his life.
Now there's a boss every employer should aspire to become. There are those that just need one person on their sideto keep them on the right side of conscience
It's a real shame that she didn't see through O'Brien sooner.
She is the soul of Downton Abbey
I can't believe Thomas is still there. Alerting the household about the fire withstanding.
1:01 They literally act like siblings! 😂 Baxter eavesdropping as Thomas tells on her. Cora even acts as if she's their mom! I love this kind of relationship. 🥰
I don't think she was eavesdropping, she was just going upstairs as Cora was ready for bed.
There could easily be a compilation of Thomas scoring own-goals
Cora is so flinty. She's always composed and soft spoken, yet she'll let you know in no uncertain terms that she's nobody's fool. I love how she can cut someone down to size with the simple truth.
I wish Cora existed in real life.
Barrow is sexually frustrated and takes out his frustration through power games, sarcasm and intrigue. All he needed was a good...
Shame the Barron wasn't either Man enough or out of the closet enough to continue to give Thomas the '1st and 10' attention he so needs or wanted to give Jimmy, who would have made a great 'puppy' for him to love.....lol
You mean the Duke?
... hug? 😜
I'd volunteer, but I'm a woman.
@@Milfuelle100 Your sacrifice to the cause is noted and greatly appreciated. Stay strong, sister!
Clicks off of christmas shopping cause i see “thomas”
Elizabeth McGovern is a treasure!
All these comments are such cold takes on Thomas's character lmao he literally had the most interesting character arc and him getting the position as Butler closed that off very nicely
The best is when people's manipulation backfires on them.
You tell 'im, Cora.
I love downton
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy 😂🤣😂
Has anyone of his schemes ever worked? Because usually it comes back to bite him?
What a class act 👌
I love barrow too 🧡🧡
Why didn't Baxter tell her the full story as it would have made her look better as she needs to make herself look as innocent as possible so she doesn't get sacked!?
I think she felt shame over the fact that she was naive enough to believe Coyle loved her and let him manipulate her to do his dirty work. She wasn't ready to admit that to Cora just yet.
I think we may also have to consider the morals of the time. Revealing why she did what she did would mean revealing that she was seduced and had an out-of-wedlock relationship, which was a pretty big deal back then. There was no way for her to keep hiding the fact that she was a convicted thief, but she may have thought that revealing that she was not only a thief but also a "fallen" or "disgraced" woman was even worse.
Thomas Barrow gets completely annihilated by Cora ASMR
You can tell that Cora is Martha Levitson's daughter.
Thomas is lucky Lady Edith chose to set fire to her room as Mary would say. Thomas and his antics sometimes were his own worse enemy.
Oh Thomas... I love you but you've GOT to stop making the same mistakes ✋
Thomas would definitely be sorted into Slytherin
I love Cora
cora is just and fair to all people !! she always knows bullshit when the is faced with it.
Thoams is mad because Cora told him off about his behavior. He had that coming and he deserved harsh words.
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... just need to see Barrow find his man in London... they sooo need to do a 2nd feature movie, and tie up all the ends, left open after recent feature movie... After watching Barrow reminds me of part one of The Man in Orange Shirt, that BBC drama a year or so ago
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I love barrow
And Mosley
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It's crazy to see this actress go from Ms. Baxter to Hecate Hardbroom!
Did Baxter ever acknowledge any extenuating circumstances for her stealing? I don't really think I saw this whole story.
We all think of something evil that we can do to someone, especially someone who's hurt us but the difference between someone who's evil and one who's not is that the evil person actually does it.
1:34 hahahahahaha
But then Cora never takes any action against him. She's known him to be a rogue more than once. In the end he rewarded by the position of a butler!
He only turned around shortly thereafter and saved Lady Edith when she set her room on fire. So, there was that.
@@fancybrooks3156 What happened after is can't influence what happened before, can it?
And the show does have some writing that simply favours keeping Thomas in the story, right from end of the war to him becoming butler.
@@delivererx What happened after that episode can most certainly influence Cora's decision to forgive and forget Thomas' treachery. And yes, it's all in the writing that Thomas happened to be the one passing by Lady Edith's room, smelled and saw smoke, sounded the alarm, and got Lady Edith to safety. When you compare one event to the other, the one comes up far short of getting rid of him because of his past. Thomas was the most senior male servant after Mr. Carson. After WWI. a LOT of young people, male and female, were leaving service. Not that he had his pick of offerings as butler, but Downton Abbey did well to retain him.
@@fancybrooks3156 What I mean is that Cora didn't take a prompt decision and the story waited for Thomas to do something positive. But never mind, have a nice day.
Thomas saved the children from that verbally abusive nanny too.
Hasn’t he learned his lesson. He is messing with the wrong people. Hasn’t he learned his lesson with O’Brien. He tried to ruin her life but his plan backfired and she ruined his life. He is lucky that Baxter is kinder than O’Brien. Unlike Carson, he doesn’t think things through. He is only causing a scandal by doing this. At least Carson thinks things through before exposing people’s Crimes.
So, did Baxter ever tell why she committed her crimes??
I'm intrigued and want to know.....
I think it had to do with a guy Ms.Baxter knew and he got her to steal
Cora leaves her decision hanging over her like the sword of Damocles
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I am so much as Cora. No yelling no attitude. Understanding sweet humble loving etc 🤗 must b 4 being a godly women. 😘😘
Not to brag or anything...🙄
Even if he kills a million of unicorns, I'd still love him 😍
He wouldn kill unicorns, Rob (actor who did thomas) said he loves unicorns
Thomas is rasputin in mansion downton abbey.
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The blackmailer (Thomas) deserved his comeuppance.
God don't like ugly, Thomas
Ho barrow was such a git, Baxter is so sweet, and cora such a strong lady ❤️😁
All stuff like this six seasons yet at the end they make Barrow the new head of staff when Carson retires. Huh?????
Because he still did tons of good stuff to... plus there other options as butler are Bates, Andy and Mosely.. Thomas was the best option
@@GoldenRose116 I think Bates or Moseley would have been a far better choice for butler. Especially Bates.
British snark has nothing on a good old-fashioned American tongue-lashing.
Like Mary, I don't understand why anyone likes Barrow
To me, because even if he can be ill-minded, he's relatable to a lot of us. Especially gays and LGBT who lived in fear, even today.
@@Hiro_Trevelyan Still no reason to be an asshole just for the fun of it tho.
The actor, Robert James - Collier knows more about his character than we do.. and whenever someone calles Barrow evil, he always corrects them and says "misunderstood." Also, Thomas is gay, and in that time, being gay is illegal. His father didn’t treat him well as a child either. He was pushed around and made fun of in his childhood too. So I can understand moments like this. In the end however, you can see why he acts this way. Before Mathew died, Mary had no excuse to act like a bitch, but after, I understand.
@@masteryoda6221 also, he shows that he really is capable of being selfless with no expectation of any returns, such as in his friendship with Jimmy Kent. Barrow is just trying to survive most of the time and it's only too easy to overlook his good side that's hidden inside.
Because he lives in a place and time where he has to hid his feelings or he get killed/arrested all while having to live serving people that can do basicly whatever they want.
why didn't Baxter tell the whole truth?
What's wrong with Cora's neck? Always bent down. Poor actress
What I love about Cora is how she supports women who have been placed in awful positions.
Thomas is one the most disgusting character in this show. Bates is the reason he had the chance to stay in downtown and he is still after him and bullying Baxter while he is at it. He will be a even more disgusting valet. He should be fired.
Finally! Someone who dislikes him as much as I do. I fast forward thru most his scenes.
Barrow becoming the butler of downton abbey is so ridiculous. He Should have been fired from the beginning. Actually, they should've Fired him every season.. Always had had some dark twisted Game. I don't care of whatever he had become.. That suddenly become pure hearted and wonderful man.. And become everyone's favourite Characters will Never make sense.
I agree with you 100 percent.
I've read somwhere that the character of Thomas Barrow was supposed to die after the first season, but they liked him so much they kept him till the end.
I was so sick of him...