What is Canon in Devil May Cry?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 84

  • @Intermediary1
    @Intermediary1 9 місяців тому +83

    Nah, I’d win.

    • @dante.son.of.sparda93
      @dante.son.of.sparda93 9 місяців тому +9

      Win?I'd nah

    • @Sabinator3000
      @Sabinator3000 9 місяців тому +3

      are you the strongest because you’re nah i’d win? or are you jogoat because you’re the one who left it all behind

    • @zeallexandre
      @zeallexandre 9 місяців тому +1

      Be proud

    • @Aswero21
      @Aswero21 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes, you'd lose.

    • @BBK113
      @BBK113 9 місяців тому +1

      nah you get bodied by Sakuna

  • @majinrebornx2220
    @majinrebornx2220 9 місяців тому +46

    I think the DMC1 Novel was retconned to be BEFORE the DMC3 Manga. Because Dante gets ebony and ivory in the novel from Nell and already has them in the DMC3 Manga. Also, Nell and the events of the novel are mentioned in canon material like DMC5 so it definitely happened. This means it was likely before the DMC3 manga

    • @Aripuni1
      @Aripuni1 9 місяців тому +5

      Alot of retcon

    • @SleepyEvelen
      @SleepyEvelen 9 місяців тому +4

      It was never retconned to be before the Manga since the novel came out first. The Manga retconned parts of the first Novel, for example, most of the parts about Gilver being Vergil, and how long it had been since Dante had seen Vergil.

    • @majinrebornx2220
      @majinrebornx2220 9 місяців тому +5

      @@SleepyEvelen you are right to a certain degree, but it has to have happened because the characters and events are mentioned in DMC5. Not to forget the interviews.... So we have to assume it happened before DMC3 manga or how else would it fit?

    • @SleepyEvelen
      @SleepyEvelen 9 місяців тому +1

      @@majinrebornx2220 you aren't wrong but I meant more like it couldn't change the storyline since it came after the first game. I meant it more like it was every other novel and game retconned the what the first novel had.

    • @majinrebornx2220
      @majinrebornx2220 9 місяців тому +1

      @@SleepyEvelen Yeah, I do I know what you mean. But for continuity sake we have to assume that the retcons are in place to make the timeline fit together because of the weird releases and lore building over the years

  • @Rman94
    @Rman94 9 місяців тому +16

    Like how Trish was made in the image of Dante's mother Eva, Gilver was made by Mundus in the image of Virgil.

    • @MotivatedSonOfSparda
      @MotivatedSonOfSparda 9 місяців тому +8

      „Why do you always stick your nose into other family's business? Come on dude, don't you have any hobbies?“
      ~Dante

  • @drako.g
    @drako.g 9 місяців тому +16

    Oh good to know. I thought Peak Of Combat was a non canon game which had some parts that were canon one of them being the existence of Pluto.

    • @Hedron1027
      @Hedron1027 9 місяців тому

      As in the Roman god of the Underworld Pluto? If so that’s cool.

    • @drako.g
      @drako.g 9 місяців тому +9

      @@Hedron1027 No, but dmc takes inspiration from it. Because they made A demon named Pluto the first ruler of the underworld.

    • @Hedron1027
      @Hedron1027 9 місяців тому +2

      @@drako.g Oh that’s cool actually. I’m surprised there’s nothing related to Hades not counting Cerberus and King Cerberus.

    • @Sonu_the_pocupine
      @Sonu_the_pocupine 9 місяців тому +1

      And now I have to listen to people saying thAT DoNtE is ( dimEnsiOnaL and except their right, thanks a lot Capcom

  • @collinthesage7436
    @collinthesage7436 9 місяців тому +14

    Actually IF you watched the livestream recently you’d know that POC is canon the developers mentioned it I have a screen recording too if you want it
    Also the anime lands in the same year as the DMC2 novel and game

    • @The_WIll_OF_D99
      @The_WIll_OF_D99 9 місяців тому

      Can you upload it and link it here? I would LOVE to see It.

    • @WildYelectric
      @WildYelectric 2 місяці тому

      Me too! That would silence the nay sayers

  • @bloodmoontalon
    @bloodmoontalon 8 місяців тому +2

    You better cut that peak of combat segment from the video, its a fucking gacha game with 0 story whatsoever

  • @melmentereoldridge6919
    @melmentereoldridge6919 12 днів тому

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  • @razenhell9721
    @razenhell9721 9 місяців тому +3

    I just want more info on Pluto was really the beginning like the first thing to ever exist or was there like a series of gods as well like maybe other gods that he trapped or something?

  • @abdelrahmanmohamedsalah8566
    @abdelrahmanmohamedsalah8566 9 місяців тому +2

    so does the order go like this?
    dmc 1 novel
    dmc 3 manga
    dmc 3 game
    dmc poc
    dmc 1 game
    dmc anime
    dmc 2 novel
    dmc 2 game
    dmc 4 novel
    dmc 4 game
    dmc 5 novel
    dmc 5 game/visions of V manga

    • @collinthesage7436
      @collinthesage7436 5 місяців тому

      Pretty much tho technically it's DMC4/DMC4 Novel the novel just fleshes out the things we don't see in the cutscenes because DMC4 just like most DMC games is always unfinished lmao

  • @elitspartan3054
    @elitspartan3054 4 місяці тому +1

    Wait, what about CD Dramas?

  • @destruidordemundosghostofspart
    @destruidordemundosghostofspart Місяць тому

    Well, I find the DMC canon very strange.
    I don’t remember it being stated that the DMC 2 novel takes place before the game. Yes, it is mentioned in the novel, but only in the English version, and I couldn’t find the original version to see if that information was actually there.
    I find it very unlikely that the DMC 2 novel is canon, since the events were never mentioned again. After all, I think going to another universe and facing an alternate version of Mundus should at least be mentioned more than once or in the recap of Devil May Cry 5, considering even the anime is mentioned. So, it’s hard to consider it canon, especially since it contains contradictory information, such as demons being able to cause fear, insanity, etc., just with their presence, and common humans not being affected by this. There's also an interview where it’s said that some novels are canon, but since it’s not specified and since it’s never mentioned again, you could say that this novel is not canon.
    The DMC 1 light novel is complicated, as Nell Goldstein is mentioned in a tweet. Nelo Angelo is a different case; they say he was retconned to be a clone of Vergil, but I haven’t seen any confirmation of this. However, Grue and Jessica are mentioned in Before the Nightmare. So, for me, it’s a kind of secondary canon.

  • @DivineXK
    @DivineXK 8 місяців тому +1

    Me currently playing the dmc definitive edition not caring bc im one of those weirdos who has it as their favorite dmc…..right after dmc3. Im sorry I juss actually enjoy the reboot and something abt young black haired Dante goin crazy gives me a reason to play

  • @Devilcrow299
    @Devilcrow299 9 місяців тому +2

    Can you do a video on Kratos’ speed feats cause there is a bit of confusion as to how fast he generally is, and would love some more god of war content

  • @dante9535
    @dante9535 9 місяців тому +2

    I understood the timeline in a video but there were information that were unclear thanks to your information. The reboot is not connected to the Devil May Cry Canon or whatever they call it but it’s another timeline. Same characters but different Personality’s and Story Eva instead being Angel than Human and Sparta not being a Legendary dark Knight but just a Demon. We have seen Angels in DMC4 but they are Robots and the not real angels and they are instead call Angelos

    • @MotivatedSonOfSparda
      @MotivatedSonOfSparda 9 місяців тому +3

      The „angels“ in dmc4 are demons/evil spirits in Angelo armors. Those armors are forged by Machiavelli, the best smith in the demon world. There is absolutely nothing angelic about those „angels“.
      Pretty sure itsuno even stated that there’re no angels nor heaven in dmc. Kinda weird considering that fallen priests exist in dmc3.

    • @DevilHunter-777
      @DevilHunter-777 9 місяців тому

      ​@@MotivatedSonOfSparda the angelo armours are basically copy of the armours Machiavelli made.

  • @oneJXV
    @oneJXV Місяць тому

    How come dmc5 isn’t mentioned?

  • @Retr0_DeD0
    @Retr0_DeD0 9 місяців тому +2

    (Video Idea)
    What if Dante consumed Qliphot Fruit? Because Vergil unlocked his SDT when he consumed the Fruit, while Dante unlocked his while he merged Sparda's Demonic sword and Rebellion. How powerful would Dante be?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @arturikartur9955
      @arturikartur9955 9 місяців тому +1

      Did Vergil get his SDT by consuming fruit?

    • @Retr0_DeD0
      @Retr0_DeD0 9 місяців тому +2

      @@arturikartur9955 Yes because when Urizen consumed the fruit he was more powerful, when V and Urizen Merged together Vergil came back with SDT

    • @Retr0_DeD0
      @Retr0_DeD0 9 місяців тому

      And Fruit affected Vergil too

    • @MotivatedSonOfSparda
      @MotivatedSonOfSparda 9 місяців тому

      @@Retr0_DeD0 he actually got his sdt after accepting his weakness. Now how ironic is that? The visions of V manga show it better

    • @Retr0_DeD0
      @Retr0_DeD0 9 місяців тому

      @@MotivatedSonOfSparda didn't read Manga's

  • @metallicsnake.
    @metallicsnake. 9 місяців тому +2

    You should go over with every crossover and see if any are Canon or could be. Like after dmc2 Dante does SMT 3 and beats lucifer then he becomes the devil arm wielded by Dante in Dmc 4

    • @tarisoala9717
      @tarisoala9717 9 місяців тому +1

      Lucifer the Devil Arm was got from Berial.

    • @DevilHunter-777
      @DevilHunter-777 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tarisoala9717 nah according to the deadly fortune novel, Dante already defeated a demon called Lucifer and got his devil arm before the order somehow acquired it.

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 3 місяці тому

      ​@@DevilHunter-777Dante does sell his devils arms and weapon he acquired so maybe that's how the order obtain the Lucifer Devil's Arm.

  • @Fictionfan364
    @Fictionfan364 9 місяців тому +1

    V is supposed to be all human being the human half of Vergil right, so how come he can still control demons

    • @The_WIll_OF_D99
      @The_WIll_OF_D99 9 місяців тому +1

      It's more of what makes him human and Demon
      Just because they re split in half doesn't mean V can't use his Demon powers. He is just extremely weak. In the Manga to cover up that weakness he had to make a Pack with the DMC 1 Demons (that's how he got those tattoos)
      But in DMC 5 it also states that When V was dying he was running out of Demonic energy to keep himself together.

  • @crimsonflame4496
    @crimsonflame4496 9 місяців тому +1

    My boy VERGIL!!!

  • @thejokerz9751
    @thejokerz9751 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for making this video I cleared up a lot of confusion.

  • @ThisJWord
    @ThisJWord 9 місяців тому

    the only canon is Dante and Vergil are still competing non stop

  • @innekekaawoan5813
    @innekekaawoan5813 7 місяців тому

    I'll just treat poc as a spin off game

  • @skullkrusher-dx4kg
    @skullkrusher-dx4kg 5 місяців тому

    My biggest issue with DMC 2 is dantes personality being dead. Not sure if this was ever explained.

    • @collinthesage7436
      @collinthesage7436 5 місяців тому

      Nah originally it was at the end of the timeline so we assumed it was because everyone he known was dead but comes to find out he's just depressed in DMC2. Since DMC2 takes place in the same year as the anime we see Dante depressed and drinking a lot then he is somewhat depressed after Patty leaves and in the DMC 2 novel he makes jokes but is still shown to be somewhat depressed.

  • @faiqanwar9712
    @faiqanwar9712 9 місяців тому

    just sub kinda worth it

  • @Anactualrealperson
    @Anactualrealperson 9 місяців тому

    …….anyone 26 and older knowing it wasint suppose to make sense, it was built like a one shot wonder when it came out. They just started putting a story together on the 4th and 5th games because they wanted to make more money with more games….anyways there’s the simple answer. Y’all ain’t gotta watch this video of this kid explaining it.

    • @DivineXK
      @DivineXK 8 місяців тому +1

      Still a cool vid. I mean if your 26 and older HERE on this vid I can only assume Yu WANTED to invest in knowin the lore. It’s ok dude go be a scrub somewhere else and hate

    • @DivineXK
      @DivineXK 8 місяців тому

      Like no one said your old self had to click on the vid nice try bro Juss wanted to start chattin ina comments to get attention

    • @Anactualrealperson
      @Anactualrealperson 8 місяців тому

      @@DivineXK child you should shut up now. When your mind can’t conceive what I said, you just got offended.

  • @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
    @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 9 місяців тому

    i'm sorry but this video is awful and just makes me more confused.
    i think that a good place to start might be listing all of the dmc material in release order and then in chronological order. after that, you can do a deep dive into the things that may cause confusion

  • @steampunkrex3360
    @steampunkrex3360 7 місяців тому +1

    So….are angels canon or not? In my mind Nero is 1/4 demon, 1/4 angel, and 2/4 human. Half demon father and a half angel mother. This is why he is so powerful, can regenerate body parts, and why his DT looks like a demonic angel.

    • @collinthesage7436
      @collinthesage7436 5 місяців тому

      TECHNICALLY a long time ago there was a statement that angels and gods did not exist however DMC 2 lore says otherwise that they existed however were turned into Demons. Which adds up with a lot of the lore since it mentions gods a lot of time.

  • @galan_galantine
    @galan_galantine 9 місяців тому

    Peak of combat really canon?

    • @Aripuni1
      @Aripuni1 9 місяців тому

      Its mobile game made by Chinese company and design to play as gacha game, idk why people think its Canon lol

    • @MotivatedSonOfSparda
      @MotivatedSonOfSparda 9 місяців тому +8

      @@Aripuni1 because capcom supervised it and poc stated itself that it is considered to be canon.

    • @Vitor20XX
      @Vitor20XX 5 місяців тому

      No it's not, a dev said it's not 100% canon and is a alternative universe, the dude who made up the PoC upgrade fooled everyone with fake scans.

    • @collinthesage7436
      @collinthesage7436 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Vitor20XX What developer said this? I have the actual video where they state that Capcom supervised it and they are keeping the lore as close as possible to the console games so what dev said this?

    • @juansaucedo6456
      @juansaucedo6456 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Vitor20XXthat was said in a stream that was later hidden and now it’s not possible to see it again and “confirm” that

  • @camgeorge6222
    @camgeorge6222 9 місяців тому

    Ive seen people who played the game and alot say its non canon. Hell one article online says non canon.

  • @caniputmyballsinyojaw
    @caniputmyballsinyojaw 9 місяців тому +2

    9:05 Worth noting that Nero talks to a God figure near/at the end of DMC4 about his arm