I keep hearing people ask for this to change to Primordial Wave, wouldn't that just massively reduce how often we make ancestors? Ele at least has Prim Wave CDR on their lava bursts. We'd just get ancestors way less. Personally I'm happy to see Unleash Life getting some additional power/usefulness but to each their own
Call of the Ancestors really should work for both Undulation and Unleash Life, sick and tired of mandatory talent choices. Give us a little flexibility.
Ancestral Swiftness is just a buffed Natures Swiftness. That's the capstone? It's nice but I was expecting a lot more than that. Hydrobubble seems neat but not being able to control the target is going to lead to a lot of waste and just feels bad. Farseer needs to go back in the oven.
As always i appreciate your takes. I Think the nodes are quite strong. Reducing Riptide cd and giving Riptide a chance to proc an ancestor seems realy strong. If u like pet healing ofc. And i hope the pets are smart. Lets wait and see what the totemic has in store for us.
Yes I totally agree that using UL as the trigger is really weird. If they don’t plan to rework the tree also in ww. I’m with you that pwave is a lot better and more flexible for both raid and m+. Me as a m+ player is a bit worried
i like the theme here, but in practice it has too little interaction. it doesnt have anything really interesting. i was hoping that the last node would be some banger that would close the tree in great way and make everything above come together. but it just doesn't. im glad my preferred healer is Mistweaver, cause Conduit of the Celestials looks fantastic !
And we can use only 1 side? Or we can make hybrid? For example (Right side +1 riptide , Middle 15%chance for spawn Ancestor when use Riptide, left side 15% chance for again spawn Ancestor after he expire, next left side Every called Ancestor reduce Riptide cd by 2 sec)= lot of Ancestors(or longer time if he can be spawned only 1 and his spawn time can stack) and more Riptides.
Hoping it's just an oversight that AS does not say anything about mana cost reduction. Replacing NS with an ability that doesn't reduce mana cost would be really bad. Also not a fan of the mountains of rng. The point about pet cloudburst healing is another important one, by current logic it shouldn't feed cbt, hope they're gonna change that.
Rework is definetly incoming in the next weeks otherwise there is no reason why Unleash Life should be the multiplicator for hero talents. Otherwise the whole tree doesnt make a lot sense imo
Coming from an elemental perspective I hate this tree. Focusing in Pwave which is a 45 second flame shock cooldown (useless button bloat) and pigeon holes us into fire is stupid. If tier set focuses on lightning this hero tree will not be used
I'll be the odd man out here and say that I like it. I am not really looking forward to Hero Talents in general and this doesn't seem like it is too overwhelming. I don't need any more buttons or weakauras.
Damn this doesn't really feel like a very interesting tree, I really wish there were some real choices in there or talents that affect gameplay or rotation at all.
This is so bad. This is far worse than i thought. I don´t realy care about numbers and output i just do my KSM and get the mythic transmog, it´s gonna be fine but... Covenants 2.0 Farseer ? Here is the skill you have to use. Unleash my a$$. I don´t need natures swiftness either. I have enough buttons. I already click some of them like a caveman because i ran out of keybinds. The worst thing about this, is the fact that the 3rd riptide stack is burried in this garbage. So i´m gonna be a Farseer idiot who doesn´t use Farseer talents but hey, i have 3 riptides. Gonna feel amazing.
I keep hearing people ask for this to change to Primordial Wave, wouldn't that just massively reduce how often we make ancestors? Ele at least has Prim Wave CDR on their lava bursts. We'd just get ancestors way less. Personally I'm happy to see Unleash Life getting some additional power/usefulness but to each their own
Call of the Ancestors really should work for both Undulation and Unleash Life, sick and tired of mandatory talent choices. Give us a little flexibility.
Really want to come back to R Sham but after seeing Prevoker Ht’s may just stick with it.
Ancestral Swiftness is just a buffed Natures Swiftness. That's the capstone? It's nice but I was expecting a lot more than that. Hydrobubble seems neat but not being able to control the target is going to lead to a lot of waste and just feels bad. Farseer needs to go back in the oven.
I already saw Shaman as being a little overloaded with RNG for a healer. Seems like the dev disagrees.
Totemic probably won’t feed into cloudburst no? Totem healing doesn’t go into it, though that might be something they specifically allow for the tree?
As always i appreciate your takes. I Think the nodes are quite strong. Reducing Riptide cd and giving Riptide a chance to proc an ancestor seems realy strong. If u like pet healing ofc. And i hope the pets are smart. Lets wait and see what the totemic has in store for us.
Yes I totally agree that using UL as the trigger is really weird. If they don’t plan to rework the tree also in ww. I’m with you that pwave is a lot better and more flexible for both raid and m+. Me as a m+ player is a bit worried
i like the theme here, but in practice it has too little interaction. it doesnt have anything really interesting. i was hoping that the last node would be some banger that would close the tree in great way and make everything above come together. but it just doesn't. im glad my preferred healer is Mistweaver, cause Conduit of the Celestials looks fantastic !
Yeah fully agree. Could be good with a few changes but for now it's pretty stale
And we can use only 1 side? Or we can make hybrid? For example (Right side +1 riptide , Middle 15%chance for spawn Ancestor when use Riptide, left side 15% chance for again spawn Ancestor after he expire, next left side Every called Ancestor reduce Riptide cd by 2 sec)= lot of Ancestors(or longer time if he can be spawned only 1 and his spawn time can stack) and more Riptides.
You get every node, the only choices to make are the choice nodes
Hoping it's just an oversight that AS does not say anything about mana cost reduction. Replacing NS with an ability that doesn't reduce mana cost would be really bad.
Also not a fan of the mountains of rng. The point about pet cloudburst healing is another important one, by current logic it shouldn't feed cbt, hope they're gonna change that.
Yeah, didnt notice that until afterwards but I hope it still removes the mana cost or it'd feel pretty bad
Rework is definetly incoming in the next weeks otherwise there is no reason why Unleash Life should be the multiplicator for hero talents. Otherwise the whole tree doesnt make a lot sense imo
Coming from an elemental perspective I hate this tree. Focusing in Pwave which is a 45 second flame shock cooldown (useless button bloat) and pigeon holes us into fire is stupid. If tier set focuses on lightning this hero tree will not be used
I'll be the odd man out here and say that I like it. I am not really looking forward to Hero Talents in general and this doesn't seem like it is too overwhelming. I don't need any more buttons or weakauras.
I have the same opinion
Yeah I don’t hate it being simple, I don’t think it’d take many changes for it to be alright. It’s just a little bland is all
This is literally embarrassing for a game people are going to spend $50 for an expansion and $15 a month to play.
Damn this doesn't really feel like a very interesting tree, I really wish there were some real choices in there or talents that affect gameplay or rotation at all.
This is so bad. This is far worse than i thought. I don´t realy care about numbers and output i just do my KSM and get the mythic transmog, it´s gonna be fine but...
Covenants 2.0 Farseer ? Here is the skill you have to use. Unleash my a$$. I don´t need natures swiftness either. I have enough buttons. I already click some of them like a caveman because i ran out of keybinds. The worst thing about this, is the fact that the 3rd riptide stack is burried in this garbage. So i´m gonna be a Farseer idiot who doesn´t use Farseer talents but hey, i have 3 riptides. Gonna feel amazing.
That tree is so lame compared to others. Pet healing is so lame.
These devs are bad at their jobs.
This is so ridiculously boring and lazy by blizzard