Origin of Flashpoint Joker
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2019
- Today on Variant, we kick off Villains Month 2019 with a look at one of the most unique takes on the Crown Prince of Crime in DC history, when Martha Wayne became the Joker!
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Like joker said: "all it takes is one bad day"
👏👏👏
Your right about this, joker a Savage
I spilled my Starbucks order on my catseat once and I'm already considering becoming the joker.
Well, I kind of think Joker is a bit off base here comparing his incident to that of Martha, while a myriad of characters who suffered one bad day didn’t wind up like this.
I mean, Gohan was like 5 and lost Piccolo, but wound up okay. Goku on the other hand destroyed a whole ass army, so I guess different strokes.
eric shun oof
so batman and the joker have canonically kissed and been married. amazing
not only that but batman put his pee pee in joker's cha cha. yikes
@Boredom Is Mood
That’s a beautiful comment you wrote. The format of the text really adds to the tone...
UndertakerU2ber lol
Ace😭😭
@@UndertakerU2ber p e e p e e I n t h e c h a c h a
Joker: "Bruce."
Batman: "How do you know that name?"
Joker: "Our sons have the same name. Besties?"
It's:
"WHY did you say that name"
🦇👉🏽 👈🏽 🤡
Know the Unknown 🤢🤮
The dog Who is suspicious of everything it’s not sexual it’s the spider man meme when they see each other dressed like spider man😂
Bruh I just died laughing from this comment 🤣
Thomas: He...He follows in his father's footsteps.
Martha: He's a doctor?
Thomas: No
Martha: Oh God
Sparks Legends: "No, he married a Martha" :D
that gave me chills
(sees martha)
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder what she was thinking
@@purplespark8 Hmmmm!!!! Why Did you say that name!!!!
Gosh, I'd love a full version of a Martha Wayne Joker.
Put it on the Big Screen
S Miller lol nah the world ain’t ready for that yet homie 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Daniel Appleton ew no
Me too.
@Daniel Appleton no, the timeline won't make sense.
My favorite part of these two characters is when they meet on the anniversary of the shooting peacefully.
i mean, if bruce gets to mourn his parents death peacefully, then thomas and martha should have that privilege. they call a truce for the time being! :D
Joker: "Bruce..."
Batman: "wHy diD yOu sAy tHaT nAmE?!?!"
Joker: "It's my son's name.."
Batman: "Oh yeah right."
Dude who decided Bruce dying would make Thomas Batman AND Martha Joker, stroke of genius. Actual brilliance. That single sentence concept makes me instantly fascinated by and attached to Flashpoint Batman
I like how Selena Kyle Oracle has tonnes of cats
V B no she’s just oracle
She was cat woman in that universe but Martha shot her
Hope the killing joke (2016) does not happen.
I remember reading about that . Thomas runs into catwoman but he spears her life thinking that Bruce would have been the same age as her if he lived , he offered her to help him fight crime . They worked together taking down villains like scarface and the ventriloquist but It all stopped when joker ( Martha ) shot Selena in the spine, and she became Oracle after that . Your welcome
Martha Wayne Joker is creepier than the actual Joker, in my eyes.
@V B who'd play her though?
@Jerry Glen lovell Maybe Michelle Pfeiffer
@@lovellhorrors1586 Lauren Cohen, who played her in BvS.
That seems true to me too.
Meanwhile the main joker: three take it or leave it
Thomas's suit always was one of my favorite batsuits
Same
Martha's suit was one of my favorites. Kinda reminds me of Heath Ledger.
Man imagine if dc created a comic where prime earth batman, flashpoint batman and flashpoint joker fights the batman who laughs together.
Iver Trionnic Flores Blazingwell that can actually happen but flashpoint joker die so they need to create a character that Martha became bat woman in there universe
@@ZackFlairr yeah too bad flashpoint joker died, but i do hope that the events in flashpoint may altered and somehow revive flashpoint joker and the other heroes in the flashpoint timeline
@@ivertrionnicblazingwell1757 yes but Thomas did bring Martha Wayne with him to the New 52 / reboot
Bruh
Martha wouldn't hurt The Batman who laughs because it's still Bruce Wayne (her son).
Flashpoint Batman: *appears*
Red Hood: *Grandpa?!*
Mr.Froody Fezbeer LMAOOOO
Would love to see an animated film of this 3-part comic!
+K S
Especially if Thomas and Martha Wayne are voiced by Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan) and Lauren Cohen (Maggie) from The Walking Dead & BvS respectively.
There IS an animated Flashpoint Paradox film Warner Brothers made; however it doesn't show much of Martha Joker other than her going crazy after Bruce's death. There's lots of Thomas Wayne Batman though and it's dope!
Go watch the Flashpoint Paradox film! Its friggin great
@Kevin Grou @Tommy yes, watched it numerous times! Its riveting and I wish they do more continuation. Aside Suicide Squad: Hell to pay.
@Christopher Beriont Why? Live action hinders supernatural stories.
Just imagine if this joker and the main joker had a child.
Ithe Batman who laughs
No
Batman's lil stepbro
Oh shit. That would be BAD.
Batman would have a stroke
Does anyone else notice that every time he finishes his sentences he opens his eyes👀 really wide.
Holy shit i can't unsee that now
oh god
Darth Cnsco 😂
Probably because he slightly looks up after reading the script
Favorite version of the Joker is Mark Hamill’s. A interesting side note about his name,
mARK HAMill.
Oh I didn’t notice that that’s cool lol
Arkham.
People have been noticing for years. You must be new to the party.
mill
Know the phrase should be can't spell Mark hamill without Arkham
You ruined the joke
"Batman's greatest enemy is his wife"
*insert Al Bundy quote about Peg*
MW Joker: Hi honey, did ya miss me?
TW Batman: With every bullet so far.
@@SWyrick366 lmao
MW Joker: you know Batman I always wanted to be a ballerina
TW Batman: Well you’re certainly my Nutcracker
Whoa, this is darker and more brutal than I expected and I love it!
Same a rated r story at its finest
Me too
Ah man, that whole kid murder thing, that's.... that's f*cked up.
but you have got to admit this reality of Martha joker is interesting
Honestly, I love those twisted DC timelines. For example, in the batman metal series, batman who laughs gives black kryptonite to superman that turns him mad and he kills his family( and I luv it)
Same with the injustice joker(great story overall one of mah favs)
@@xavierdestremau5732 "Why did you say that name?!"😂
Sorry I couldn't help it
That's what Flashpoint universe is like
You can be happy that this is a another timeline
.....at the end of the day, the only person to blame is Barry Allen. 🤷🏽♂️😂
Barry always fucking up the timelines lmao
I think it was actually Dr Manhattan who was behind all of this.
That's not how Doctor Manhattan is spelled.
@Daniel Appleton I suppose so
@@AmazingSpider-Man well Flashpoint was all Barry, The New 52 was both Barry and Manhattan. Dr Manhattan used Flashpoint as an opportunity to to change how events play out in the DC Universe, without Barry doing this Dr Manhattan couldn't have created the new 52, also Dr Manhattan can't effect the speed force that well and the speed force can keep you safe from Manhattans changes when OG Wally came out from it, Dr Manhattan made it so that shouldn't be possible
I like the version of joker where he becomes a great stand up comedian. So much so that he is able to heal everyone with is great humor and reminds us that we are all in this together :)
Imagine a Joker having mood swings when that day of the month comes. Scary shit indeed.
Daniel Appleton literally no one cares that you said “no one would be safe”
@@petrutorlac7840 not trying to troll. Im pretty sure that statment is false. The period is a failed baby. Every month an egg is sent into position and if not fertilise in the monthish time it gets ejected. So until menopause she will keep haveing a period reguardless of if she had a baby or naw.
What if... she actually turns normal, i.e. sane, when she menstruates?
Petru Torlac you are an idiot
Petru Torlac Women still have their periods after giving birth idiot. They keep having them till they go through menopause. They just don’t have them while pregnant.
thomas: you should smile more honey
martha: ok *I'M SMILING*
Martha:(cuts her face) THERE! YOU HAPPY NOW!? YOU HAPPY!?
and now i see the funny side.. now im alWAYS SMILING
Why so serious
Martha: Oh Thomas Thomas. I love you and all. But you need to work on your joke. For example, an alien, a millionaire, and an Amazon walk into the bar.
Thomas: Oh no
We need this as a Rated R Batman movie on the big screen.
Why do i feel like a woman Joker would be a lot scarier
Rocky YIT worse for that time of the month...
FEMINISM
Because bitches be crazy
Because women are already crazy?
Guess you haven't seen Joker's Daughter
Joker is the most scariest. The most powerful. The greatest villain ever created in DC comics.
dark rose slayer super Saiyan 4 most powerful now thats a lie
Joker did twisted things. Overdosed himself with Titan killed so many people. He's a evil and powerful Maniac and my favorite villain
dark rose slayer super Saiyan 4 cool but he aint the most powerful darkseid is
The scariest yes but the most powerful no. If Joker does something to Louis for example, Superman literally kills him in a microsecond.
Catwoman being oracle sounds awesome for some reason.
This so need to be a movie goddamnit!
Do a history of clayface.
+Grey World
That'd be awesome!
Grey World it is a movie, but not live action
oh yeah i would love to see an movie of flashpoint batman/ joker, it is way more effed up and interesting
Flashpoint paradox. It is a movie just not all Batman more so Flash
@@thunter992 more of that universe would be interesting
It’s still the same. Batman still has a damaged, edgy, romantic relationship with the Joker.
Batman isn’t gay tf
@@seriousnesstv7902 he most definitely is
@@seriousnesstv7902 tell that to 1950's Karens.
Except this one was alot more literal,
@@seriousnesstv7902 its a different kind of relationship.
not all relationships are "romantic"/"sexual".
any type can still be disturbing.
I read the title on the thumbnail as “Batman becomes Joker’s mother”😂
lol
XD
I've always wanted to know about this since Flashpoint Paradox. They hinted at it, but never showed her full Joker.
As Heath Ledger said:
Madness you know, is like gravity,
You gotta give it a little push!
Seems that everyone Batman knows will eventually become The Joker (first Alfred, now his mom,...)
Unfortunately, Bruce is dead while his mother is the joker. And his dad becomes Batman. I wonder how this'll go.
You forgot the most important person to become the Joker, the person who batman knows the best. Batman himself
It’s called the Bat effect
Wait, when did Alfred become the joker?
@@sonicgen20 In the Gotham series, Alfred is sprayed with a special mixture of laughing gas. Alfred starts laughing and he puts some Heath Ledger scars on his mouth. (But it was a fear toxin hallucination)
7:48 that scene and what Bruce tells Thomas is heart wrenching
Female Joker reminds me of a asian mom
Martha: Does our son become a doctor?
Thomas: No
Martha: Nooooooooo!!!!!
Would rather die than see your son become a failure lol
cant tell if this a joke or not
I'm sorry, are you calling the fucking Batman a failure?
@@benharkin4909 no i think its actually a reference to parents who have high expectations of their children to get a high paying job as a doctor, engineer or a lawyer but the child got another job which dissapoints the parents
mmhhmm Usually Asians expect their children do.
sooooo trueeee...
“It wasn’t hard. Insanity, as you know, is like gravity! All it takes is a little. . PUSH!!” 😂 😂 😂
The best comic UA-cam show ever!
Dinamite What about comicstorian?
I wish Lauren Cohan play Martha Wayne again in the flashpoint movie
+Pain
That'd be hella awesome!!
She's do amazing
You guys are amazing. Great content that just gets better. I really love when you do specific story arcs in comics Breakdown and thank you for the new podcast. .
Thomas Wayne is my favourite batman and this story is just amazing!
“Bruce Wayne’s casino...”
In this alternate universe, he has a casino, not big company.
ROCKRAJA949 but in this universe Bruce Wayne is dead
@@moistedits4455 oh shit thought you wrote thomas waynes casino sorry lol
ROCKRAJA949 It’s fine
Amazing video! DC just has a way with alternate realities.
I thought that was Marvel Comics.
Yea yea Female Joker all crazy and all but the worst thing is...
*Spanish Mom Joker*
The legendary mexican joker
She gonna throw her chancla at you
Spanish Mom Joker gains the power of the chancla
*Uh oh*
Oh no
Flashpoint and Batman Who Laughs are my favorite alternative versions of Batman and Joker.
Man this channel is so awesome! U guys consistently put out amazing and informative videos! Keep up the good work!
What if in flashpoint Harvey’s twins became two face. Where one twin is deformed and the other controls the twins action by a flip of a coin
Gives a whole new to meaning when joker said “you complete me.”
*"Knight of Vengeance"* is the only Brian Azzarello story I ever loved. It's a shame it was only three issues long.
“Did I ever tell you how I got these scars??”
Well I am the joker baby!
“No but I know how you got these “
"Sometimes i remember it one way, sometimes another, if i'm going to have a past i'd prefer it to be multiple choice" -The Joker
Wow even though I somewhat knew this story I didn't know how much DEEPER it went, I'll be stopping by my favorite comic book store and pick up all of the issues.
"would become freaking the Joker"
hey, no need for "the" in that sentence.
Would become the freaking Joker
Ninja Ned better than mine too.
Huh
@@NedBaker Goddamnit, I'm late again?!
@@livestreamgaming420 would become fricking joker?
Never stops being sad.
Bruce's Mom becoming the 🃏 joker what a nightmare.
This Joker needs to be in Mortal Kombat 11 as a premier skin
I always thought it be cool to see a movie just based on these two DC characters
Imagine if Bruce went to that reality realizing that his dad is Batman and finds out his mother became the joker
Amazing I was looking for a breakdown of this story everywhere
I’m so excited for the podcast. I’m sure many have seen the nerd sync podcast and I was huge fan of that. So excited!!!
I just love this story or alternate story so much. You can really feel the emotions and the heart of the author page by page.
Just like you "Literally Gasp" when you read the Comic the first time, I Literally just Gasped myself watching you show me who Jim Gordan accidently just shot in this video I just watched.... Holy Shit!!
Its like Mr and Mrs. Smith all over again
I'm still waiting for the animated movie about Thomas as Batman and Martha as the Joker.
this brought me to tears, what an incredible movie this would be.. wow
Closest we have to a live-action female Joker, I think, is Villainelle ("Killing Eve")
I wish we got to see Bruce meet his Flashpoint parents. Bruce would likely fight his father over his father's lethality, and his mom would either regain her sanity or be pushed further down into insanity.
Great video! Loved how you summarized it. Keep it up!
Yaaaaaasssss!!!! I've been waiting for this!!!!
Should do the Origin of Red Robin ?
It'd be interesting to see what kind of Killing Joke-like flashbacks Martha would've had (it'd probably be extra tragic seeing how Thomas and Bruce could've been her only anchors to stability). And part of me wonders what her interactions with Yo-yo (Harley Quinn's counterpart) would've been like!
LOVED THE VID, I REALLY FELT LIKE I WAS IN THE COMIC WITH YOU READING IT
@7:44 I'm crying, the thought of watching the light and life drain from my boy's little body...just the thought
Even in her insanity, she understands the horrors that comes with being batman. She doesnt want her son to live a life where hes mentally scarred to the point where he puts himself in danger every night in an endeless crusade.
Did anyone else notice that the company from 'The boys' TV show 'Vought international' has the exact same logo and opening as Variant?
now THAT is a story worth screaming MARTHAAAAAAAA
I remember this story but hadn't seen nor read it for a while. This recap was great. Thanks!
When Thomas tells Martha what becomes of Bruce, the panel on where he says no is freaking frightening, because there is no red eyes, you just see The Batman, both Bruce Wayne and Thomas Wayne, what they both have become.
Imagine if this version of Martha met The Batman Who Laughs....
One of them is gonna snap out of it
I always wanted to know if they made a comic of this alternate timeline and I LOVE IT!!
This is total movie potential.
Wow
I’ve always wanted THISSSSD
The art by Eduardo Risso is just so insane in this comic. It reminds me a lot of the noir style he brings in 100 Bullets.
Loved Flashpoint one of the best alternative universes
2:50 Skyline limo
With the Joker(being rated R),
Thomas Wayne as Batman is the movie we need next
Great recap as always, Arris!
I swear the opening doesn't sound complete without the laugh at the end. Just that extra bit really pulls it together.
This is so cool and sad at the same time
Flashpoint Paradox: Batman's mom becomes Joker
Batman's dad becomes BvS Batman...
Daijinryuu Itsutsu actually Batman’s dad becomes The Punisher mixed with Batman.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr The only thing that him and The Punisher share, is that they both kill, which BvS Batman also does
No zero f***s given a man who wear advanced bat suit - Robot Chicken writer
Thanks for the break down on the issues means alot n eay to follow
Man DC is amazing!!!
Now that he’s on titans can we get a organ of Jericho
DAMN. I wanted to see Martha's reaction if he met his son bruce. She shouldnt have fallen in the pit.
Same
chills man, literal chills.
thanks brother - great summary. much appreciated
Ever since I saw the Flash Point anime, I loved the Thomas Wayne Batman and wanted to know more about the Martha Wayne Joker. Thanks for the vid Variant. . .😁🤩👍
Damian knows that his grandmother becomes the Joker in this timeline. Does Bruce? He usually knows all these things.
This is one of the very best Batman/Joker stories I have ever read.
Arris. A big fan