The Who "Bargain" live 2002 Hollywood (1st show after John Entwistle's death)

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  • @fredmccaskill5476
    @fredmccaskill5476 8 років тому +195

    Pete was their brains Roger was their voice Keith was their heartbeat and John was their soul. That is IMMORTALITY.

    • @shonenmarc1569
      @shonenmarc1569 8 років тому +10

      Fred McCaskill couldn't have said it better myself ☺

    • @catherinefitzpatrick9144
      @catherinefitzpatrick9144 8 років тому +10

      Marc_ RKO And, then Fred went and took the words right outta my mouth! I will always say: Long Live The Who; wherever they may be, and however older they're getting (aren't we all?), as long as I have breath, and, Dear Lord; ears for hearing them, I will always want to be listening to The Who; the International Treasure that I treasure with all my heart!

    • @RSTI191
      @RSTI191 7 років тому +3

      Well said..

    • @mattneff6770
      @mattneff6770 7 років тому +8

      Fred McCaskill great to see Roger and Pete hug

    • @christinelackey1794
      @christinelackey1794 5 років тому

      And I'm the FORCE in the dark behind the veil...behind it all n behind you...looking for ewes to get behind me... Can ya get behind it man..or is it BEYOND U..

  • @w1lf1ewoo
    @w1lf1ewoo 4 роки тому +46

    In Pete's autobiography he says the real reason they carried on was because The Who's insurers would not have covered them for J.E's death , it being largely due to his cocaine and alcohol intake. He says " While the fans would have understood if we had cancelled the tour, the insurers would not and they would have had to refund all the tickets"... and while Pete (and perhaps Roger) could have afforded to return home without pay, their huge dedicated road crew could not and so they came to the financial and philosophical conclusion to go ahead...must have been very tough!

  • @bamboosa
    @bamboosa 9 років тому +82

    Pete is a badass on that guitar solo. Death is an illusion. Transforming from the physical to the non-physical can really bum one's friends and/or family. See ya later Thunderfingers.

  • @socallowbrow8851
    @socallowbrow8851 11 місяців тому +6

    Me and bro were there. I was 20. He was 19. Best show. John. Miss ya.

  • @mooville32
    @mooville32 2 роки тому +6

    I was at that show. My first Who concert. It was still a magical evening.

  • @nigelsanford7136
    @nigelsanford7136 2 роки тому +20

    What makes this so emotional aside the obvious reason is Pete's solo. John encouraged and pushed him to play all the guitar himself, thus giving him the push needed to be a guitar god. What a solo. May the ox rest in the arms of eternity.

  • @johnharrison4421
    @johnharrison4421 7 років тому +26

    I was there and I remember after the 3rd song roger turned to his right for the first time and said "FUCK". The most emotional Who concert I have ever been to.

  • @MrRhmccabe
    @MrRhmccabe 7 років тому +39

    Pete was devastated here,they wanted the best bass player in the world for Entwistle's place,and got him...the guy is great.

    • @synthonaplinth5980
      @synthonaplinth5980 5 років тому +10

      Yup, sad thing is that Pino does not get nearly enough credit.

    • @seahawkjoe4038
      @seahawkjoe4038 4 роки тому +3

      He could have gotten Geddy lee or Chris Squire

    • @jokkergar
      @jokkergar 4 роки тому +9

      @@seahawkjoe4038 I don't know if you know this but both of them have their own bands, what makes you think they would quit to them and accept the role of substitute?

    • @seahawkjoe4038
      @seahawkjoe4038 4 роки тому

      Erion they wouldn’t have to quit

    • @seahawkjoe4038
      @seahawkjoe4038 4 роки тому

      Erion Geddy lee played with yes for RnR hall of fame

  • @braydenfletcher8159
    @braydenfletcher8159 7 років тому +26

    Petes guitar solo expressed how we all felt. Just filled with passion and pain. The band has carried in without Entwistle and they still sound good! But nobody can replace Moon The Loon and Thunderfingers

  • @mitchuritz4954
    @mitchuritz4954 5 років тому +10

    I was there. They played with such fire that night.
    They played for John.

  • @billymusicwb
    @billymusicwb 10 років тому +42

    I've seen The Who one time, and it was this concert. The Counting Crows opened, which was a truly thankless job. The news had come out the death in Las Vegas of "The Ox." I remember the moment in Bargain when Pete broke up a little singing about what I remember as "one and one is three" or something. Watching this video, I understand. Pete gave a little speech I haven't found yet recorded. He thanked the Hollywood crowd and said he was glad they were playing this first concert after Entwistle's death for this particular crowd because at least half of the audience would know that this is the last place they'd like to be right now. They had a contractual obligation, and most of the crowd knew what it was like to sign a contract to perform. Bargain was the song I remember where Pete broke a little emotionally. This was such a privilege to be there, and it was a sad occasion.

    • @Fretless99
      @Fretless99 9 років тому +7

      Billy Sheppard Bless Pino Palladino for filling in for John

    • @billymusicwb
      @billymusicwb 9 років тому +5

      Fretless99 Yes! That was a tough job done at the last minute. I would include opening band Counting Crows for special mention since events had so completely overshadowed them they might as well have been singing nursery rhymes. They played well. Palladino did one song playing exactly what Entwhistle had played and the audience went wild. Good job, Fretless! Credit where credit is due....

    • @Fretless99
      @Fretless99 9 років тому +3

      Billy Sheppard Thank you, Billy, you are very kind :)...John is sadly missed; he was a huge influence on my playing......

    • @georgeprice7922
      @georgeprice7922 7 років тому +5

      3:25 "In life,one and one don't make two,one and one make one"......

    • @kurtduvel4345
      @kurtduvel4345 5 років тому +2

      @@georgeprice7922 "I'm looking for you, I'm looking for you...." 😢

  • @Twotontessie
    @Twotontessie 6 років тому +17

    Zak had that great touch his dad had. Damn Townshend was going for it on guitar during the 2000s.

  • @jeffgoodwilling9479
    @jeffgoodwilling9479 9 років тому +79

    I love Zak Starkey. He's a perfect fit for them.

    • @markhaus2830
      @markhaus2830 5 років тому +8

      Ringo's son

    • @LaughingStock_
      @LaughingStock_ 4 роки тому +3

      Not really. 2 key members gone is NOT "The Who". To carry on under that banner was a contravention of the Trade's Description Act.

    • @ViscountVile
      @ViscountVile 4 роки тому

      Well, the public decides whether they buy tickets or newer recordings. I've heard at least one interview with Pete in which he has explicitly said that "The Who" is a brand rather than a band.

    • @wolfpat
      @wolfpat 3 роки тому +4

      I like his playing. He has a great combination of his dad and his "Uncle Keith".

    • @garycrothall901
      @garycrothall901 3 роки тому +1

      @@LaughingStock_ Garbage.

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt 2 роки тому +5

    It must've been beyond weird performing without John those first few weeks and months. The Who were 4 corners. And Zak is the only one to come close to keeping the drumming corner together. Christ Pino was brave taking that gig.

  • @viewerenthusiast
    @viewerenthusiast 9 років тому +30

    Not only do we miss the thundering sound, but also the powerful stage presence of John Entwistle. The man may not have moved a muscle other than his fingers, but you could always tell that he was there. He was hard to miss--visually, musically, and humorously. RIP John Alec Entwistle (9 October 1944; London, England-27 June 2002; Las Vegas, Nevada).

  • @gillianholmes923
    @gillianholmes923 3 роки тому +3

    So very very sad and so touching. How they must have missed John that night. Gone but never forgotten John. xxxxxx

  • @gordongrant8351
    @gordongrant8351 6 років тому +13

    Thanks, Roger for working on your voice, taking care of it and learning how to sing again. Outstanding.

  • @GaryBook
    @GaryBook 5 років тому +19

    I can’t imagine how difficult it must have been for them. I am totally impressed with Zak’s drumming, a Keith Moon clone.

    • @norbertk9595
      @norbertk9595 5 років тому +7

      Keith gave Zak lessons and a drumset when Zak was a kid.

    • @MattSmith-iq1ld
      @MattSmith-iq1ld 5 років тому +4

      @@norbertk9595 +1 Roger felt The Who RETURNED when Zak joined the band.

    • @norbertk9595
      @norbertk9595 5 років тому +3

      @@MattSmith-iq1ld Right. Too bad they didn't hire Zak immediately after Moon's death.I know hewas very young at the time, but...

    • @brianjacob8728
      @brianjacob8728 Рік тому

      @@norbertk9595 Townshend needed a break from the who. It worked out ok.

    • @Kpengie
      @Kpengie Рік тому +1

      @@norbertk9595 He was also his godfather and Zak called him "Uncle Keith," due to his closeness with Ringo.

  • @toto384
    @toto384 11 років тому +14

    Makes me so emotional. Pete is sweet.

  • @TheBerndude
    @TheBerndude 7 років тому +52

    You've gotta have big, big balls to replace The Ox.

    • @norbertk9595
      @norbertk9595 5 років тому +18

      And he simply hasn't been replaced. Pete & Roger give it their all, but there is an enormous void in the left side of the stage.

    • @shootingstar7915
      @shootingstar7915 3 роки тому +1

      A great show, miss our big John 🙏🏼R I P

  • @chgobrd
    @chgobrd 2 роки тому +5

    Roger started to talk about John after their last song. Started getting choked up and Pete came out on stage and pulled him back stage.

    • @sralyn
      @sralyn Рік тому

      Poor Boo 💔

  • @ashe984
    @ashe984 9 років тому +12

    I love the who and always support them

  • @butseriouslyfolks6111
    @butseriouslyfolks6111 8 років тому +4

    livin in the past...i guess....the best times ever...never too late to say RIP John Entwistle...One of my favorite songs.

  • @paullecomtenz
    @paullecomtenz 11 років тому +4

    I was there, my first ever Who gig. Can't believe I never say The OX live, but what a gig - blood emotional & bloody spectacular.

  • @61tnt
    @61tnt 7 років тому +4

    Was there too. Was certainly a poignant and special night and a privilege to be there! Thanks for posting this.

  • @nyshortline
    @nyshortline 4 роки тому +7

    There will NEVER be another John Entwistle. EVER. But one thing that surprised me was that they didn't call on Suzi Quattro. Excellent bassist in her own right and her voice I think would have blended very well with Townshend while singing backup. Just a thought.

    • @keithroberts4952
      @keithroberts4952 3 роки тому +4

      No disrespect to miss quatro but I don't think her style of playing matches the who. Pino is a quick study. One minute, he is playing for d'angelo, the next he plays for the Who! He is that good!

  • @Number-tk8lk
    @Number-tk8lk 8 років тому +7

    Just saw them in concert a couple days ago and Roger sounded as good as he did in this video!!

  • @winnyxxx
    @winnyxxx 10 років тому +7

    Thanks for posting. RIP John

  • @joadhenry
    @joadhenry 7 років тому +9

    that was beautiful Pete

    • @RSTI191
      @RSTI191 7 років тому +2

      Damn, who the fuck knew Pete could solo like that?

  • @ozzye9950
    @ozzye9950 11 років тому +2

    so beautiful yet sad. thanx for sharing.

  • @toonietom
    @toonietom 11 років тому +2

    Great clip this song is from Who's next it's like the greatest hits of the Who every song is great. Thx

  • @grahamnunn8998
    @grahamnunn8998 2 роки тому +1

    Just been reading Townshend's biography and the section about losing John was hard to read. I was lucky enough to to them a little while before in the UK.

  • @sralyn
    @sralyn 4 роки тому +7

    I wanted to hug Petey at 3:27...

  • @gordongrant8351
    @gordongrant8351 6 років тому +4

    Wow. Just heard the solo and ending. Jesus. What a tribute to John. Pete and all of them were playing like their souls fucking depended on it. Maybe they did...

  • @Luileadolfo
    @Luileadolfo 8 років тому +5

    Must have been really hard and sad to play this first show without John Entwistle.....

  • @PDXDrumr
    @PDXDrumr 5 років тому +3

    I was at this show. Felt strange, and it was sad, it was a good show though though.

  • @HarryJoiner
    @HarryJoiner Рік тому +1

    Zak is perfect for this role

  • @MattSmith-iq1ld
    @MattSmith-iq1ld 5 років тому +4

    I love Jim Ladd as a DJ, but for him to call the act of the band playing this gig as being DISGUSTING really revealed his true colors. He wasn't a true fan. Every person at the Hollywood Bowl that night wanted the group to continue, as I did. This was a night of mourning, but it was also a nigh of triumph. John LIVED for live performance. He would have pissed if the band had stopped due to his passing. Like with Cincinnati, the show must go on. There is healing element to rock music that is so crucial.

  • @shootfirst2097
    @shootfirst2097 2 місяці тому

    What the opening doesn't show is before Pete hugged Roger, he said, "Sorry, for the delay. We had a problem
    with our bass player. Typical." The show was postponed for a couple days for the funeral.

  • @abigal3508
    @abigal3508 3 роки тому +4

    Yep. Pete tears up at 3:20 ish

  • @Andy-ok7ev
    @Andy-ok7ev Рік тому

    That is magical

  • @martyc2637
    @martyc2637 Рік тому

    Whos Next was a masterpiece.

  • @TracyGreenwood
    @TracyGreenwood 7 років тому +3

    I hope that hug was genuine. Those guys were at odds for years.

    • @markhaus2830
      @markhaus2830 5 років тому +6

      Not at odds anymore

    • @charliehustle1540
      @charliehustle1540 3 роки тому

      They actually became close friends again after John’s death

  • @jorgedelacadena4963
    @jorgedelacadena4963 6 років тому +1

    Im a fan of Who but no one will ever replaced Jhon the Ox

  • @Wolfdragon92584
    @Wolfdragon92584 3 роки тому

    Even though he was just shy of 60 at his death, I still feel John died short of his years. He wasn't overly self-destructive like Keith Moon, Kurt Cobain, or Ian Curtis. He should have lived to have been a badass old guy like Roger or Pete. The partying lifestyle definitely takes its toll and loved ones/fans left behind will hurt.

  • @babaoriley7986
    @babaoriley7986 3 роки тому

    Damn, i shouldn't open this video, it makes me wanna cry when i saw the bass place was replaced.

  • @YouzTube99
    @YouzTube99 8 років тому +1

    If you're interested in Pete's impressions of John, check out this interview:
    ua-cam.com/video/2s25n0kWkng/v-deo.html
    They were like brothers. In the last segment Pete makes it clear that John's encouragement was crucial to his development as a musician and composer.

  • @daveh9335
    @daveh9335 3 роки тому

    Long Live Rock !

  • @cindyburrell2173
    @cindyburrell2173 8 років тому +4

    O.k. Yes sound guy needs to be sacked,however,coming of age in the early 70's this drummer is spot on for Keith ,and yes roger was the voice,Pete was the soul

  • @johndaugherty4127
    @johndaugherty4127 Рік тому

    I saw them in '81 and the 2012 Quadrephenia tour with Zak Starkey and John Entwhistle on jumbotron playing a solo together, with my best friend who died not too long after the show. The Who are the best.

    • @sralyn
      @sralyn Рік тому

      No 'h' in ENTWISTLE. Get it outta there.

  • @vitaobassbr
    @vitaobassbr 6 років тому +1

    oh man =(

  • @leyneyleyendecker5813
    @leyneyleyendecker5813 6 років тому +13

    It's not the who without John Entwistle

    • @norbertk9595
      @norbertk9595 6 років тому +4

      Agreed. The other bassists they've used just haven't worked out.

    • @TheSushiSnatcher
      @TheSushiSnatcher 5 років тому +2

      Once a member dies, it’s never the same. Rick Wakeman from Yes wanted to use a different name after Chris Squire died

    • @ViscountVile
      @ViscountVile 4 роки тому

      True, but on that basis, they had not been The Who for 23 years!

    • @si5883
      @si5883 2 роки тому +1

      John was the master on bass and can never be replaced! 👊

  • @4beer5beer
    @4beer5beer 6 років тому +1

    Zak is great too

  • @heynow4512
    @heynow4512 5 років тому +1

    Took my two kids & wife to this concert. Great concert tho lots of meaningful tears at this 1. After they played 1st song my teenage son replied "they're not 1/2 bad." To which I screamed "r u kidding me? These guys r legends!" Hey man,1/2 WHO is better than no Who. & nobody can replace Keith Moon, but that drummer Zak Starkey is Ringo's son, taught by Moon, is their best replacement. Better than them other 2 guys, Kenney Jones & Simon Phillips.

    • @mudstone6497
      @mudstone6497 5 років тому

      Zak Starkey

    • @heynow4512
      @heynow4512 5 років тому

      @@mudstone6497 Ur rite. Ray is/was an actor. Was in the movie The Star-maker

    • @mudstone6497
      @mudstone6497 5 років тому

      Hey Now Huh? I just commented you wrote Ray Starkey in referring to Zak Starkey, which I see you corrected, what’s all this about a movie?

    • @heynow4512
      @heynow4512 5 років тому

      @@mudstone6497 I tried to "Google" Ray Starkey/ The Star maker, nothing came up. When I find that movie or the actor I'll let u know. My memory is failing me in me old age. U caught me again...hey now

    • @kimoneill5676
      @kimoneill5676 3 роки тому

      Actually, Zak was taught to play by Kenney Jones, not Keith.

  • @ashe984
    @ashe984 9 років тому +14

    Not the same without John and keith

    • @BritPopLivesOn72
      @BritPopLivesOn72 8 років тому +1

      hmm... I wonder why

    • @robertbykowski1398
      @robertbykowski1398 6 років тому +2

      I can understand them carrying on without Keith - losing a drummer (even if he is one of the greatest) shouldn't mean the end of a band. But when you stop creating new material AND you lose the greatest rock 'n roll bassist of all time and thus become reduced to only two members of the original band...that's a good time to call it a day. Unless you're only in it for the money.

    • @MrSparklespring
      @MrSparklespring 5 років тому +1

      @@robertbykowski1398 Not at all and you are proven to be wrong. Listen to their new "Who" album. The best in years!

    • @sralyn
      @sralyn 3 роки тому

      The ones that got away

    • @5jerry1
      @5jerry1 3 роки тому +1

      @@robertbykowski1398 ~ Tell that to Led Zeppelin.

  • @Jjonathanhart
    @Jjonathanhart 9 місяців тому

    Roger's got the perfect unique rock voice. Unfortunately this isn't like the studio version with a continuous tempo except for the end.

  • @UncleChillGuitar
    @UncleChillGuitar 9 місяців тому

    The Ox forever

  • @jokkergar
    @jokkergar 6 років тому +10

    The drums sounds like trash here, not the drummer's fault, some in the production messed up

    • @victormlyon
      @victormlyon 5 років тому +2

      Limiter failed and pegged the meter

    • @no1nestandsalone387
      @no1nestandsalone387 4 роки тому

      BenediKt dude that’s ringos son you are talked about. You better shut up. I’ve seen them in concert with him and he plays good!

    • @jokkergar
      @jokkergar 4 роки тому +4

      @@no1nestandsalone387 pal what part of "not the drummer's fault" don't you understand. Do i really have to explain you the role of a sound engineer?.

  • @MichaelCrutcher
    @MichaelCrutcher 2 роки тому

    This was clearly set for video. Why isn't the sound better? Is trhe whole set available?

  • @spinalcrackerbox
    @spinalcrackerbox 4 роки тому +1

    Awful board mix and camera avoiding Pino for almost all of it. Why?

  • @alann5003
    @alann5003 Рік тому

    Why did they omit the beautiful bridge?

  • @youkyouk7471
    @youkyouk7471 5 років тому +1

    How I miss Keith on this song ! ( sorry for this platitude....)

    • @Andy-ok7ev
      @Andy-ok7ev Рік тому

      I. Feel the same very hard shoes to fill

  • @SteveBoltz
    @SteveBoltz 5 років тому

    Go on The Ox x

  • @richardtharris
    @richardtharris Рік тому

    My brother, his son (a teenage drummer), and I (bassist), attended this show on a typical canyon July evening. It was cold! Our intent was to expose his son to how a world class rock rhythm section functioned. Well, best laid plans, you know. Fortunately, Pino stepped up, and saved the day. What was it again, hookers and blow, that sent Mr Entwhistle to Rock and Roll Heaven? We really, really wanted to share the majesty of thunder fingers steamrolling the bowl with my nephew. But not to be. RIP Ox.

    • @cocktailsandrocktales
      @cocktailsandrocktales Рік тому

      No. it was a woman he knew for 13 years that was with him. That would be me. If you want the ONLY truth out there, find me on here. Its been in my book which came out in 2014. I sued Roger and others for calling me the slanderous and absolutely false words. If you goggle woman with John entwistle....there i am. Research and educate yourself. Don't degrade out of ill educated lies. Yes, I was a stripper when we lost John, but I was not when he and I met backstage in 1989. And was never a hooker...period. so sick of this ignorance.

  • @delphinazizumbo8674
    @delphinazizumbo8674 8 місяців тому

    yeah........Mr Businessman Pete wouldn't stop that tour for his OWN demise
    this is the year i FORGOT about Peter Townsend
    the year the band played on after Ox passed away,
    a hooker on his left, pile cocaine to the right.....a Boss

  • @18winsagin
    @18winsagin 8 років тому +1

    what caused his death? Really didn't know he passed.

    • @WillyDude-r2l
      @WillyDude-r2l  8 років тому +2

      +18winsagin This is from wikipedia: The Clark County medical examiner determined that his death was due to a heart attack induced by cocaine.[16]

    • @18winsagin
      @18winsagin 8 років тому +1

      +wk19781 hmm thank you for your effort, sad I didn't realize he had passed away.

    • @RSTI191
      @RSTI191 7 років тому +4

      A few factors.
      He was on collision course. Probably didn't even realize it.
      Years of smoking, arteries were mess, blow at the time was the catalyst that triggered a heart attack.
      He went in his sleep, never even knew it happened.
      Lucky fuck..
      That aside, as a bassist, he was a hero to me. Had to pleasure of meeting him once. He was hilarious, loved his brandy.
      I have a great memory (and a couple of cool pics with him) of the time I will cherish for life..

    • @robertbykowski1398
      @robertbykowski1398 6 років тому +7

      The actual truth of why he passed is that, after rehearsals prior to the first scheduled show in Vegas in 2002, he was having sex with a Las Vegas show girl in his hotel room and doing cocaine with her at the same time. He already had a diagnosed heart condition, and the combination of sex and coke caused him to have a fatal heart attack. All one can really say is that he definitely died a rock star's death.
      And somehow, some way, Keith Richards keeps going and going and going like the Energizer Bunny.

    • @Mineminemine8
      @Mineminemine8 6 років тому +2

      Robert Bykowski The woman John was with wasn’t a show girl, she was a stripper and a groupie. She wrote a book, which was pretty interesting, if you can get through the complete lack of editing.

  • @pranavsarpal8899
    @pranavsarpal8899 3 роки тому

    The vid quality is so pathetic.....RIP Entwistle!

  • @no1nestandsalone387
    @no1nestandsalone387 4 роки тому

    Thank god roger got that surgery on his throat.. he sounded WAY better when I saw him and he sang this song lol

  • @YGroadcapitain
    @YGroadcapitain 7 років тому

    horrible sound on this video!!!

  • @clarkthesharkshow9944
    @clarkthesharkshow9944 Рік тому +1

    the drumming is so horrible ,..that i really can't watch this ,, lol

  • @jamesmuir8747
    @jamesmuir8747 3 роки тому

    Missing Keith Moon up in there. bleah!

  • @Andy-ok7ev
    @Andy-ok7ev Рік тому

    I. Think. Moon d. Sended 4. This. Song

  • @jamesgorski1398
    @jamesgorski1398 Рік тому

    I liked it better when Roger punched Pete in the face
    But okay 👍🏻 I guess Mates …

  • @risefm001
    @risefm001 4 роки тому +1

    John could snort for miles and miles and miles...

    • @timculhane625
      @timculhane625 3 роки тому +2

      I don't think you'd be laughing if you were him or any of his loved ones. Do yourself a favor and find a conscience and some respect while you're at it

    • @risefm001
      @risefm001 3 роки тому

      @@timculhane625 John could snort for miles and miles and miles....

  • @christinelackey1794
    @christinelackey1794 5 років тому

    Difficult? Bwahaha ....easy as 123..peace of cake n never to late to saveyoyr(saviour) asses just in the NICOTINE. 🚬 em if ya got em... 🔥 it ☝