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When you said Beretta has been in business for 500 years I laughed out loud for a second because it sounds like an exaggeration but it's true! Pretty crazy!
One advantage of the tip-up barrel not mentioned is that it can be unloaded and reloaded without having to worry about bullet setback after many rechamberings
Hey Sootch I had a friend who served as a Sky Marshall on Israel's El Al Airlines. He said they were issued Beretta Tip Up .22 pistols. They were trained extensively to make headshots at long distances inside the airliner.
@@enricomandragona163 Yes, that was the reason they were armed with .22 pistols. I am not sure they had frangible rounds that broke up on impact in the 70's or 80's. He said they trained a lot and all became very good marksmen with the Beretta .22 pistol.
Thank you so much for sharing older and rarer models. Your depth of knowledge is impressive. Fun to see such beautiful classics. Cheers to the Patron who lent you this one!
I worked at a gun shop 20+ years ago and passed on one of the M86 Cheetah's brand new in the box for $475 at the time. Been kicking myself about it to this day.
I'm not a user of .380, however I've always loved the look of the Beretta handguns, and the Cheetah's are some of the most handsome pistols around, along with the CZ 75 series of handguns. I really wish Beretta would re-introduce these handguns though, as I think they'd sell decently!
The 1911 made a complete resurgence. The hi-power and ppk are on a similar path. Just give it time and our favorite guns from the 80s/90s will start to be remade and sold at a premium. Im waiting patiently on a p230 myself.
Love Beretta guns. This is an amazing example. Sure it is big for a 380 pistol, but I would take one of these over a S&W Shield EZ in 380 everytime! You have a great Beretta collection, sootch00!
.... I am quite surprised at how great condition the pistol in this video is in... Every single one of these pistols I’ve ever seen has been very well used, but functional and reliable... Interesting pistol and great video 👍🇺🇸
I have an original Blued model 84 B with the rounded trigger guard, double stack in .380. Holds 13 + 1. It's One of my favorite carry guns. I would love to have one of these 86's for my collection. I wish Beretta could make a 9 mm in EXACTLY the same size as the Cheetah series. It would take over the market. The perfect size carry gun & beautiful to boot. Love Beretta's.
I have a Mod 86 bought it brand new for my Daughter to shoot because at the time She was to young to rack the slide. The pop up barrel was perfect for her to use and learn on and the reduced recoil helped her a lot also. She is LEO now and shoots better than I do, but we still enjoy shooting this pistol from time to time. Thanks for this video sootch00 Be Safe
A couple of things to note: The date code on the frame (BU) indicates this pistol was manufactured in 2004. That being said, not going to be a blued slide, but more likely a Bruniton finish. This would likely account for how this pistol is also in such great condition. Beretta makes a dang good pistol.
I just finally got one. Thing shoots good. Have 84fs cheetah and couple 81bb Berettas. It's definitely cool. Guess I got to get the rest of the cheetahs.
If Beretta made one in 9mm Para, I'd have gotten one back in the 90's. Awesome design. Got a 21A in .25, love it. Had a Tomcat in .32, and it never fed right, so Beretta cut me a check.
No way to do a 9mm parabellum tip up barrel pistol its a feature only for non lock breach guns. The barrel its fixed and the slide should be super heavy to keep up with the the task of delaying the opening of the breach during fire.. Cheers.
Man sootch. I wish you wouldn’t have put this video out. I’ve been trying to find one of these for a couple years to make my beretta collection a little more complete . Now that everyone knows they exist I’ll never be able to find one especially at a half way decent price. Nice video as always. Thanks for putting a video out on this gun
I have owned my 86 fit about 8 years. When I picked it up the first time I fell in love. I also have a Bobcat and have owned a Tomcat. My wife has a nickel 84 and I did have a 85 but opened my mouth and sold it. Love the Berettas.
Just a note on most Beretta 80 Series pistols. You can easily remove the magazine disconnect feature. Beretta shows you how in the owners manual. They sometimes get an unfair rap regarding this issue in other reviews. I removed it from my magnificent 85f over 30 years ago and haven't put it back yet (which appears to be easy as well).
Colonial Williamsburg Williamsburg Virginia at the powder magazine there's a bunch of Beretta flintlock muskets that we use during the revolutionary war so he is right about being a very old company I think it's more like 600 years old but I could be mistaken
Now get your hands on an Astra A-60. I use Cheetah mags as a base to mod them for use in A-60's. Both are that special weird mash up of features that you just can't get these days.
Wow. Last time I watched this channel I was dipping matches wrapped in tissue paper in wax to create a firestarter. Probably six years ago. Glad to see he’s still providing great content 👍🏻
I think with its tip up barrel, it will do great for a more fragile hand with reduced recoil on a medium frame format. This one’s, I believe, good for concealed carry as well
I bought one of these about 8 years ago, when I first saw it I knew I had to have it. The one thing I can’t bring myself to do is fire it, it’s just too darn nice to shoot.
I just sold one of these after having it for decades. Shocked at how much I sold it for compared to what I originally purchased it for. If beretta was smart they would reissue these since .380 is making a huge come back.
I need to get a tomcat. Also, some may dismiss 32 ACP as a defense round, but if you load it up with European .765 Browning labeled rounds such as the Sellier & Bellot, they are loaded noticeably hotter.
Just FYI-The early Tomcats had a frame that would crack-especially if you used hotter than recommended loads. To beat that, you’d want an Inox model with the stainless steel frame.
I remember being at a gun show in Denver back around 2004 and I held one of these Cheetah 86 tip up barrels in my hands , I fell in love with it ! It was selling new for $415 and I thought it was too much …. I soon realized what a mistake I had made by not buying it and I never could find another one for that price , and eventually not at all . I ended up buying a Cheetah 84FS some years later which I still have brand new in the box never fired ( the box has a sticker on it that says “ celebrating 💯 years , 100th Anniversary “ but there’s no markings on the pistol that says it’s an Anniversary series ) I think you’re right that they discontinued the Cheetah series though. Still today I keep looking for one of these 86 tip up Cheetahs to show up at a gun show .
I always wondered how they worked I worked security at a apartment complex the landlord had a pistol for almost 20 years and never fired it so needed some help cleaning it checking if it still functioned at the time I had never seen a tip up barreled pistol so I never knew how it worked.
That was one of my first guns I bought, after the 92F. Only thing I don’t like about it is the trigger will not fire with the mag out. Only time I ever had a unwanted discharge was with this gun.😮 This was my carry gun for about 15 years, and I may go back to it as it’s a small gun that fits my large hand. Oh and the other thing is the round in the chamber will not eject if the mag is out😱
Beretta is my favorite manufacturer of them all, if someone was to ask me could I live with having nothing but Beretta's? I believe I could, I love the 92 series, the cheetah series, their double barrel shotguns, and many others they just make some of the best guns in the world, in my opinion
I didnt know they made a tip up 380. I really like these pistols, especialy the double stack 84. Tisas makes a beretta authorized copy of the 84 for under $400 new.
I'm pretty sure as a kid I had a cap gun that was based on this gun. It did the pop up barrel thing and that's where you would load the ring of caps. Actually met and befriended another kid who was carrying the exact same toy with them walking about town. lol We're were dorks back then, but still a funny coincidence.
Sure. HK Vp9/40, HK P30, HK USP/P8 series, Hipower, Glock series, Beretta 90 series, Beretta 80 series, Walther PPQ/Q5 M1 series, CZ competition single actions & Sig classic series (original series not plastic).
That looks like a shorter version of the Beretta 92 with a tip up barrel and I would love to own that pistol or have one of them thanks for the video scooch
I just like the idea of the gun. Instead of cocking it you can keep the magazine full and have an extra bullet in your pocket for quick break action-like barrel loading. It does suck that its stuck in .380, so good luck finding extra magazines for it
The most reason for tip up barrel is for unload the gun, that gun doesn't have the extractor piece, if the shooter needs to unload a chambered round, the main way is tip up the barrel
This video was evil! I thought they were back in production! haha! Great watch man, thank you, and by the way, I'm also one of those who bought the 21 Bobcat in .25ACP... probably less of us than tip-up 86's - hahah! 🤣😂
Ah, Beretta ... beautiful and amazing firearms ... and for 500 years. Like so many kids that grew up in the 80's, I knew that someday I'd start buying 'em ... 'cause I'm a huge fan. Well, I was. Beretta USA just doesn't seem to be living up to the reputation of their parent company. I bought my 92X RDO/FR at the beginning of July. It failed at the range, right out of the box due to light primer strikes ... confirmed by the range's armourer. I had it for a few days, the gunshop I purchased it from had it for a few more. Beretta USA has had it for 2 and a half months. Despite my attempts to contact them in order to determine when ... or if I'll be getting my handgun back, their customer service department seems bent on refusing to communicate with me, regardless of what I try. This weapon was purchased so my wife could have some protection in our at-home office. I hate to think what would've happened if she had needed to use it. In conclusion, I'm happy to see all those enjoying their collectibles, I truly am. But this 1st in my collection of Berettas will be sold the moment it's returned to me. Finally ... you should read their FaceBook complaints page ... this seems to be a growing problem.
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When you said Beretta has been in business for 500 years I laughed out loud for a second because it sounds like an exaggeration but it's true! Pretty crazy!
It looks like brand new. Somebody loves that firearm.
Great looking pistol. Wow.
One advantage of the tip-up barrel not mentioned is that it can be unloaded and reloaded without having to worry about bullet setback after many rechamberings
Never saw the tip-up version (86) of the Cheetah 81 model! 😲Nice!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍😊
Hey Sootch I had a friend who served as a Sky Marshall on Israel's El Al Airlines.
He said they were issued Beretta Tip Up .22 pistols. They were trained extensively
to make headshots at long distances inside the airliner.
Yes so the round won't go through the aircraft or a window!!
@@enricomandragona163 Yes, that was the reason they were armed with .22 pistols. I am not sure they had frangible rounds that broke up on impact in the 70's or 80's.
He said they trained a lot and all became very good marksmen with the Beretta .22 pistol.
Thank you so much for sharing older and rarer models. Your depth of knowledge is impressive. Fun to see such beautiful classics. Cheers to the Patron who lent you this one!
Thanks Scott! There's something about these classic that are just cool.
I worked at a gun shop 20+ years ago and passed on one of the M86 Cheetah's brand new in the box for $475 at the time. Been kicking myself about it to this day.
I bought mine in 95 for 360.00 and love this gun.
I'm not a user of .380, however I've always loved the look of the Beretta handguns, and the Cheetah's are some of the most handsome pistols around, along with the CZ 75 series of handguns. I really wish Beretta would re-introduce these handguns though, as I think they'd sell decently!
Agreed 👍 I have an M-9 and a,84FS
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They still manufacture them, but they are rarely imported new. It's mostly surplus
Yeah but that's a pretty big 380 considering all the little tiny ones like...
Pico,P238,Mustang, LCP, even the Bersa is still smaller than that
@@zzxxooooxxzz4964 Tom & bobcat !!!
One of Beretta's true gems, really wish someone would bring the design back
The 1911 made a complete resurgence. The hi-power and ppk are on a similar path. Just give it time and our favorite guns from the 80s/90s will start to be remade and sold at a premium. Im waiting patiently on a p230 myself.
Sds imports makes one
Girsan mc12 or something
The Tomcat 3032 big brother! I’m drooling.
Love Beretta guns. This is an amazing example. Sure it is big for a 380 pistol, but I would take one of these over a S&W Shield EZ in 380 everytime! You have a great Beretta collection, sootch00!
Well it's worth a lot more than an EZ so who wouldn't 😉
I must have watched this video 6 times since its been uploaded. I hope to one day own one of these. Imo the best looking firearm ever
.... I am quite surprised at how great condition the pistol in this video is in... Every single one of these pistols I’ve ever seen has been very well used, but functional and reliable... Interesting pistol and great video 👍🇺🇸
I have an original Blued model 84 B with the rounded trigger guard, double stack in .380. Holds 13 + 1. It's One of my favorite carry guns. I would love to have one of these 86's for my collection. I wish Beretta could make a 9 mm in EXACTLY the same size as the Cheetah series. It would take over the market. The perfect size carry gun & beautiful to boot. Love Beretta's.
I have a Mod 86 bought it brand new for my Daughter to shoot because at the time She was to young to rack the slide. The pop up barrel was perfect for her to use and learn on and the reduced recoil helped her a lot also. She is LEO now and shoots better than I do, but we still enjoy shooting this pistol from time to time. Thanks for this video sootch00 Be Safe
A couple of things to note: The date code on the frame (BU) indicates this pistol was manufactured in 2004. That being said, not going to be a blued slide, but more likely a Bruniton finish. This would likely account for how this pistol is also in such great condition. Beretta makes a dang good pistol.
I can confirm what he said about the little Beretta model 21. It is one of the most tip-up barrel Berettas. 2:01
lmfao
Bought a Beretta M9 3 months ago 17yrs later after getting rid of the last 2 i had. Always loved Berettas.
You’re going to be excited about the new Girsan MC14T
I just finally got one. Thing shoots good. Have 84fs cheetah and couple 81bb Berettas. It's definitely cool. Guess I got to get the rest of the cheetahs.
If Beretta made one in 9mm Para, I'd have gotten one back in the 90's. Awesome design. Got a 21A in .25, love it. Had a Tomcat in .32, and it never fed right, so Beretta cut me a check.
No way to do a 9mm parabellum tip up barrel pistol its a feature only for non lock breach guns. The barrel its fixed and the slide should be super heavy to keep up with the the task of delaying the opening of the breach during fire.. Cheers.
Man sootch. I wish you wouldn’t have put this video out. I’ve been trying to find one of these for a couple years to make my beretta collection a little more complete . Now that everyone knows they exist I’ll never be able to find one especially at a half way decent price. Nice video as always. Thanks for putting a video out on this gun
What a treat! The model 86 is sweet, but including a the others, (especially the mouse guns) was a pleasant surprise!
Thanks for stopping by Brother
Pistol in perfect condition! Beautiful gun. 👍👍
I have owned my 86 fit about 8 years. When I picked it up the first time I fell in love. I also have a Bobcat and have owned a Tomcat. My wife has a nickel 84 and I did have a 85 but opened my mouth and sold it. Love the Berettas.
Just a note on most Beretta 80 Series pistols. You can easily remove the magazine disconnect feature. Beretta shows you how in the owners manual. They sometimes get an unfair rap regarding this issue in other reviews. I removed it from my magnificent 85f over 30 years ago and haven't put it back yet (which appears to be easy as well).
I'm no expert, but I am an enthusiastic collector! I love all their stuff!
How du you price
Yup bought two 86’s for my wife and I about 10 years ago for our old age when we can’t rack the slide. Paid $1000 each. Both were in new condition.
Colonial Williamsburg Williamsburg Virginia at the powder magazine there's a bunch of Beretta flintlock muskets that we use during the revolutionary war so he is right about being a very old company I think it's more like 600 years old but I could be mistaken
Now get your hands on an Astra A-60. I use Cheetah mags as a base to mod them for use in A-60's. Both are that special weird mash up of features that you just can't get these days.
Have one still new in box unfired. Bought it for 400 dollars 5 years ago from an estate. Would love to shoot it but i just can't.
Looking Gooooooood !! 🤛
That is a gorgeous handgun and your review 1st class as usual. Thank you so much
Wow. Last time I watched this channel I was dipping matches wrapped in tissue paper in wax to create a firestarter. Probably six years ago. Glad to see he’s still providing great content 👍🏻
I think with its tip up barrel, it will do great for a more fragile hand with reduced recoil on a medium frame format. This one’s, I believe, good for concealed carry as well
it can be helpful. However some people with weak hands might have an issue with the DA trigger pull
I've always admired the beretta cheetahs. My dad has one he keeps at his computer desk
I bought one of these about 8 years ago, when I first saw it I knew I had to have it. The one thing I can’t bring myself to do is fire it, it’s just too darn nice to shoot.
I just sold one of these after having it for decades. Shocked at how much I sold it for compared to what I originally purchased it for. If beretta was smart they would reissue these since .380 is making a huge come back.
I have a 3032 Tomcat flip up barrel in .32 which is used for concealed but your 380 is pretty darn nice!
I need to get a tomcat. Also, some may dismiss 32 ACP as a defense round, but if you load it up with European .765 Browning labeled rounds such as the Sellier & Bellot, they are loaded noticeably hotter.
Just FYI-The early Tomcats had a frame that would crack-especially if you used hotter than recommended loads. To beat that, you’d want an Inox model with the stainless steel frame.
Have the Tomcat in 32ACP. Great functioning gun, but it's like holding a firecrackers in your hand when it explodes when shooting it my pistol.
Perfect.
Bought a tomcat. Loving it. Thanks
I remember being at a gun show in Denver back around 2004 and I held one of these Cheetah 86 tip up barrels in my hands , I fell in love with it ! It was selling new for $415 and I thought it was too much …. I soon realized what a mistake I had made by not buying it and I never could find another one for that price , and eventually not at all . I ended up buying a Cheetah 84FS some years later which I still have brand new in the box never fired ( the box has a sticker on it that says “ celebrating 💯 years , 100th Anniversary “ but there’s no markings on the pistol that says it’s an Anniversary series )
I think you’re right that they discontinued the Cheetah series though.
Still today I keep looking for one of these 86 tip up Cheetahs to show up at a gun show .
I always wondered how they worked I worked security at a apartment complex the landlord had a pistol for almost 20 years and never fired it so needed some help cleaning it checking if it still functioned at the time I had never seen a tip up barreled pistol so I never knew how it worked.
Glad to help out!
That was one of my first guns I bought, after the 92F. Only thing I don’t like about it is the trigger will not fire with the mag out. Only time I ever had a unwanted discharge was with this gun.😮 This was my carry gun for about 15 years, and I may go back to it as it’s a small gun that fits my large hand. Oh and the other thing is the round in the chamber will not eject if the mag is out😱
Why won’t it eject without a mag?
@@cesarsaavedra1051 you’ll have to ask Beretta about that
How did that unwanted discharge happen?
Oh, I have an 84F too. Great lil' guns. ❤️
You had me at ‘Too Many Guns And Not Enough Funds’, but Beretta makes/made excellent .380 ACPs.
Beretta is my favorite manufacturer of them all, if someone was to ask me could I live with having nothing but Beretta's? I believe I could, I love the 92 series, the cheetah series, their double barrel shotguns, and many others they just make some of the best guns in the world, in my opinion
Cool you covered so many of the micros with tip-up barrels.
I didnt know they made a tip up 380. I really like these pistols, especialy the double stack 84. Tisas makes a beretta authorized copy of the 84 for under $400 new.
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I'm pretty sure as a kid I had a cap gun that was based on this gun. It did the pop up barrel thing and that's where you would load the ring of caps. Actually met and befriended another kid who was carrying the exact same toy with them walking about town. lol We're were dorks back then, but still a funny coincidence.
I love the 86, always wanted a 86 with a shorter barrel similar to the short length of the other tip-ups.
I had two Baretta Minx .22 back in the 80s. Both of them went full-auto on me.
I have an 81bb and it is my favorite handgun I own. 32acp 12+1
what a beautiful gun...
I love the Beretta 85 and 86. they are beautiful
Call me crazy but I am .380 all day! Love the ppks, sig 365 .380, and this beretta.
I have a Tomcat in .32 ACP. Excellent pocket pistol.
this is a discontinued model in the US. This was my first pistol purchased back when I turn 21. still have it.
i gotta get one of these ... have just got a minx stamped with 1955 22 short longer barrel and the bobcat treaded ... thanks again for these vids
She has a beautiful design
I have an 87BB in 22LR. That’s another unicorn. Not many out there.
This is the best 80 series pistol & the one they should have kept producing. If one hand gets injured you can still run the gun.
I have a friend who has one of these. It’s a damn good gun. I’m kind of envious over it
I'm not into guns but it's beautiful. I can see the craftsmanship.
This may be one you want to check out. Just seeing if it to be released next month.Girsan MC 14T
I have the originals of the 21a and 3032. Love them
The EAA MC14T .380acp based on the Beretta model 86, how does it compare?
This is the dream, I'm from Vietnam
Thanks for another amazing review. I always thought I wanted a Cheetah, now I know I need one. This pistol is a work of art.
لو سمحت اسمو إيه السدس ده ،،،؟
That is a really nice example. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Ray!
Beautiful piece! The price is definitely up there, current bid on one for $1,450 🥵
Model 76 ??? What a beauty !!!
My top 10 best semi-auto pistols list:
1 - Beretta 92FS
2 - SIG P226
3 - Glock 17
4 - HK P2000
5 - IWI Jericho 941
6 - CZ 75
7 - Ruger P95
8 - Springfield XD
9 - Browning HP-35
10 - Taurus PT-92
Does anybody here disagrees with me?
Sure. HK Vp9/40, HK P30, HK USP/P8 series, Hipower, Glock series, Beretta 90 series, Beretta 80 series, Walther PPQ/Q5 M1 series, CZ competition single actions & Sig classic series (original series not plastic).
That looks like a shorter version of the Beretta 92 with a tip up barrel and I would love to own that pistol or have one of them thanks for the video scooch
I can't find this automatic in gunstores anywhere. I'm sure it cost a fortune. I've heard its one of the best guns you can own.
For those, who don't know:- the italian ammo 380 acp has the same power like 9*18 Makarov- bullet 6,1 g.,and velocity 315 m/c.
Thanks for showing it sootch
A beautiful pistol for any nice collection!
Love this gun channel 👍 You always have the best most awesome guns.
The M9 9mm was my side arm in the army, never failed me......that 86 model is fuckn wicked 🔥
I just like the idea of the gun. Instead of cocking it you can keep the magazine full and have an extra bullet in your pocket for quick break action-like barrel loading. It does suck that its stuck in .380, so good luck finding extra magazines for it
Tisas has the faith model. An exact copy of this weapon. Much cheaper and reviews are very good.
This is super cool!
Thanks for watching Hope!
Il give you 1100 for the cheetah.
Zo i can compleet my collection.
Upper left i had a bersa was just like it
Thanks for your review. Awesome as always!!! Fantastic looking firearm.
The most reason for tip up barrel is for unload the gun, that gun doesn't have the extractor piece, if the shooter needs to unload a chambered round, the main way is tip up the barrel
nice. always wanted one and was never able to get one.
This video was evil! I thought they were back in production! haha!
Great watch man, thank you, and by the way, I'm also one of those who bought the 21 Bobcat in .25ACP... probably less of us than tip-up 86's - hahah! 🤣😂
Wish I could get one.have the 22lr..
Super cool to see all those Berettas. Hope I can own one someday.
Beautiful.... Qualifies as a Forgotten Weapon but Ian hasn't done a review on it!!! Nice collection!
Best hand guns ever
Ah, Beretta ... beautiful and amazing firearms ... and for 500 years. Like so many kids that grew up in the 80's, I knew that someday I'd start buying 'em ... 'cause I'm a huge fan. Well, I was. Beretta USA just doesn't seem to be living up to the reputation of their parent company. I bought my 92X RDO/FR at the beginning of July. It failed at the range, right out of the box due to light primer strikes ... confirmed by the range's armourer. I had it for a few days, the gunshop I purchased it from had it for a few more. Beretta USA has had it for 2 and a half months. Despite my attempts to contact them in order to determine when ... or if I'll be getting my handgun back, their customer service department seems bent on refusing to communicate with me, regardless of what I try. This weapon was purchased so my wife could have some protection in our at-home office. I hate to think what would've happened if she had needed to use it. In conclusion, I'm happy to see all those enjoying their collectibles, I truly am. But this 1st in my collection of Berettas will be sold the moment it's returned to me. Finally ... you should read their FaceBook complaints page ... this seems to be a growing problem.
unfortunately beretta usa has abysmal customer service
Caption during shooting red targets at just past 17 minute mark says Fiocchi 9mm 115gr FMJ
Beautiful design pistol.
Awesome! You've got a lot of Berettas!
Only one I've got is a 92fs, and I love it.
I feel for Robbie there at the end. I've had hot brass go down in side the neck of my shirt! Not fun! Ouch! Lol