The Controversial Music Genre of Barber Beats

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 1 тис.

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington  Місяць тому +6

    *NEW VIDEO!* My Top 10 Barber Beats Albums: ua-cam.com/video/WbFc_bJl9gw/v-deo.html

  • @blameitonyaboi
    @blameitonyaboi Місяць тому +727

    wow the graphic design for these covers are so good. i feel like maybe 50% of the reason for its popularity

    • @aceambling7685
      @aceambling7685 Місяць тому +64

      It is. The music itself is pretty mid, the covers get you to click.

    • @Paul.......
      @Paul....... Місяць тому

      ​@@aceambling7685not mid

    • @braedonsdayoff9409
      @braedonsdayoff9409 Місяць тому +8

      It’s ok. Doesn’t say anything about the music it’s just Behance core

    • @Paul.......
      @Paul....... Місяць тому

      @@aceambling7685 not mid

    • @Paul.......
      @Paul....... Місяць тому

      Im literally being censored for the simplest reply f this platform

  • @TunaSam2314
    @TunaSam2314 2 місяці тому +1213

    I think of the people who compile these mixtapes as curators rather than full blown musicians. But I think their work is another form of art that lives side by side with music artistry.

    • @Hozokauh
      @Hozokauh 2 місяці тому +58

      undersaken phrased is at such: curation as an art form

    • @suop1234
      @suop1234 2 місяці тому +71

      agreed, i just wish more barber beats mixes contained a tracklist of original names somewhere... at least most people don't actively delete comments of the original tracks (cough, macroblank, cough)

    • @Esirre
      @Esirre 2 місяці тому

      i think the process of curating/separating the wheat from the chaff is valuable as it takes someone with eclectic taste and a deep love for the genre/subgenres to find the good stuff (and it's very time-consuming to even get say 12 samples together) However; I think original source material should also be listed. So yeah, I agree with @suop1234

    • @blackgoat9826
      @blackgoat9826 Місяць тому +4

      they might not be full blown musicians but what they do is a really strong form of art and it speaks how good of a visual and musical taste those people have ❤️

    • @fernandogesteve1942
      @fernandogesteve1942 Місяць тому +14

      its almost like they jockey disks, dont you think?

  • @latrace1986
    @latrace1986 2 місяці тому +1664

    Barber beats aka the music they play during evening dinners at Dorsia

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 2 місяці тому +181

      Now let's listen to Paul Allen's barber beats

    • @claymccoy
      @claymccoy 2 місяці тому +76

      Nobody goes there anymore.

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 2 місяці тому +9

      @@claymccoy 😂😂😂😂🍻

    • @dabidosan
      @dabidosan 2 місяці тому +15

      Too Black Sounding For Me

    • @claymccoy
      @claymccoy 2 місяці тому +11

      @@dabidosan To each his own...

  • @Comrade.Question
    @Comrade.Question Місяць тому +632

    Vaporwave started off criticizing capitalism through the recontextualization of corporate muzak and pop hits and now a decade later people are using the genre to make money by reselling other people's music. What a world.

    • @seemysight
      @seemysight Місяць тому

      Punk is in fact born dead

    • @andrewhooper7603
      @andrewhooper7603 Місяць тому +71

      The disco elysium arc.

    • @YellowJelly13
      @YellowJelly13 Місяць тому +51

      That's not how Vaporwave started. Eccojams had nothing to do with that, for example.

    • @LockheedMartinEnjoyer
      @LockheedMartinEnjoyer Місяць тому +19

      🌎 👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

    • @JJMcCullough
      @JJMcCullough Місяць тому +144

      They never claimed to be criticizing capitalism. The genre was simply about sentimentality, including sentimentality about consumer society.

  • @GODSPEEDSOUND
    @GODSPEEDSOUND 2 місяці тому +651

    Yo, thank you for the massive shoutout! HFM and Macroblank are the reason I'm here, so to peg me as someone who helped push the genre to where it is today is wild to me, I appreciate it a ton

    • @luddite_music
      @luddite_music 2 місяці тому +7

      Hey I remember one of your tracks opened the Blast Pit mix from Hungry Skull, it's a nice tune! Always fun to see how much artists are out there working on fresh barberbeats everyday. Keep up the good work :)

    • @skullington2616
      @skullington2616 2 місяці тому +12

      Your tracks and albums are the titties, stellar work, keep it up!

    • @djsugarc1075
      @djsugarc1075 2 місяці тому +1

      Macroblank is a copycat

    • @youtubefriends384
      @youtubefriends384 2 місяці тому +2

      so to what you ?

    • @edenfalling
      @edenfalling Місяць тому +3

      love ur music dawg

  • @crossingtheline2189
    @crossingtheline2189 2 місяці тому +607

    Haircuts for men seriously helped me sleep when i only had a few hours at a time. Cant say enough good stuff about those early collections

    • @burdensofparasol
      @burdensofparasol 2 місяці тому +1

      True comment

    • @ArbitraryOutcome
      @ArbitraryOutcome 2 місяці тому +1

      Holy shit same wtf

    • @Harshal378
      @Harshal378 Місяць тому +6

      HFM help me secure good grades

    • @Jchot
      @Jchot Місяць тому +1

      most people have fans or white noise generators

    • @piehed4
      @piehed4 Місяць тому

      HFM appreciation thread

  • @talkingmudcrab718
    @talkingmudcrab718 Місяць тому +117

    Honestly the best part of Barber Beats are the "album covers." I love so many of their art styles. The music is ok. Its relaxing.

    • @francofx
      @francofx Місяць тому +2

      Yes, i love the artstyle, its so good

  • @basketcaseface813
    @basketcaseface813 2 місяці тому +427

    modest by default is my favorite to be born out of the genre, but HFM, the og, will never be topped.

    • @mexicocity3956
      @mexicocity3956 2 місяці тому +14

      Haircuts for Men is insanely good. Classic sounds.

    • @user-qs6np6hh5r
      @user-qs6np6hh5r 2 місяці тому +5

      love me some mbd

    • @xilpes6254
      @xilpes6254 2 місяці тому +4

      HfM really has his own vibe

    • @edenfalling
      @edenfalling Місяць тому

      modest n gore are prolly my favs

    • @danloool74
      @danloool74 Місяць тому

      Best fucking track by modest would have to be kisses so good man

  • @naokocoed
    @naokocoed 2 місяці тому +370

    everyone gangsta
    until pad weighs in on barber beats

    • @PadChennington
      @PadChennington  2 місяці тому +41

      thats right

    • @itsenzo3000
      @itsenzo3000 2 місяці тому +6

      Eyyyy Naoko in the building

    • @Dubwolfer
      @Dubwolfer 2 місяці тому +1

      i don't think anybody should beat their barber

    • @jooojas
      @jooojas 2 місяці тому

      but what if my barber beats me?

    • @itsenzo3000
      @itsenzo3000 2 місяці тому +3

      İ usually barber my beats

  • @fawkesmccloud8059
    @fawkesmccloud8059 2 місяці тому +251

    A fun trivia piece is that HFM's bio used to just say "i take no credit. everything is plundered." , but he changed it to take some credit after he uploaded his original gabber work, northern labour camps. You can check it on the wayback machine.

    • @the_trash_mane5875
      @the_trash_mane5875 2 місяці тому +12

      HFM did gabber? Am I reading this right? That's insane

    • @fawkesmccloud8059
      @fawkesmccloud8059 2 місяці тому

      @@the_trash_mane5875He actually has a whole second alias called "forbidden creme" that he uses to publish electronic works, but yeah, he has dabbled in gabber under the hfm name as well. I highly recommend northern labour camps, it's the thing that got me into gabber.

    • @darman2429
      @darman2429 Місяць тому +8

      must've been recent since i still thought it was the "everything is plundered" line

    • @fawkesmccloud8059
      @fawkesmccloud8059 Місяць тому

      @@darman2429May of 2021. Like I said, you can verify this on the wayback machine.

    • @IcarusBPM
      @IcarusBPM 7 днів тому

      I rember

  • @hypersleep9336
    @hypersleep9336 2 місяці тому +104

    i just hate that they flood the bandcamp vaporwave tag, its hard to find anything actually unique sounding these days

    • @Personarose
      @Personarose 2 місяці тому +23

      That’s the only real complaint I have with barber beats for as much as I enjoy it I wish other sub genres like mallsoft or vapor funk wouldn’t be lost in the shuffle.

    • @hypersleep9336
      @hypersleep9336 2 місяці тому +9

      @@Personarose EXACTLY its so hard to find good mallsoft man, its annoying

    • @josephs.3372
      @josephs.3372 2 місяці тому

      Oh great, good to know it's lazy thievery that also makes finding actual musicians even harder... it's like AI slop clogging up your feed.

    • @ionescuflorin7307
      @ionescuflorin7307 2 місяці тому

      @@Personarose Or you could just use RYM to find recent mallsoft or future funk

    • @jaimebondoza3710
      @jaimebondoza3710 Місяць тому

      @@hypersleep9336what is good mallsoft

  • @orlandosantosjunior7720
    @orlandosantosjunior7720 Місяць тому +12

    I didn't even know Slowerpace was Brazilian! I'm so proud!

  • @rooxg
    @rooxg 2 місяці тому +29

    I get the aesthetic appeal of the genre, and i do dig the sound, but as someone who writes music themselves , i can't help but get riled up when i see a single guy dropping a 15 track album every week just by slowing down 8bars from an old takanaka tune and adding some fx to it, while other talented producers and musicians spend tens of hours into a single tune and get basically no attention for their original piece of music. Now i'm far from being against sampling and sample editing of any sort, but i think this whole genre just takes it a bit too far. What i'd like to see though is actual musicians creating this type of music from scratch. Writing an 8/16 bars loop/chord progression really isn't that hard and with that little bit of effort i think it could push the genre in a really great direction.

    • @ionescuflorin7307
      @ionescuflorin7307 2 місяці тому +8

      Now there are also sample-free barber beats producers like ROMBREAKER, Message Me Later, Telenights, Mabisyo, DEvSEb, Machina Pensant, etc.

    • @rooxg
      @rooxg 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ionescuflorin7307 can't say I know much of these , but I stumbled onto mabisyo's yt Channel a while ago in which the description mentions it's music mostly made of samples ?

    • @lenathemaid
      @lenathemaid 2 місяці тому +5

      As someone who also writes music
      Stealing is good and ur a prude

    • @howlinnadeaux766
      @howlinnadeaux766 Місяць тому +2

      your music is great @rooxg subbed!

    • @rooxg
      @rooxg 23 дні тому

      @@howlinnadeaux766 hey thank you so much for checking me out ! 🤟👽

  • @JoeEmb776
    @JoeEmb776 2 місяці тому +122

    As a barber beats enjoyer, I tend to see them as just chill mixtapes and the makers to be an indie dj of sorts, and because of how small scale and indie it is it's mostly harmless. (Though I myself am quite the pirate with artistic media even though I'm an artist myself so I can relate to this kinda paradoxical passion for a medium as well)

    • @2thiccOG
      @2thiccOG Місяць тому +4

      the only problem is it’s not as small scale as it once was

    • @dandrechesterfield5411
      @dandrechesterfield5411 Місяць тому +3

      It's not small scale if they're making thousands from bandcamp

    • @2thiccOG
      @2thiccOG Місяць тому

      @@dandrechesterfield5411 i’m saying

    • @JoeEmb776
      @JoeEmb776 Місяць тому +11

      @@dandrechesterfield5411 so they get a month's rent from making a mixtape. Big fuckin' deal.

    • @Ocarina654
      @Ocarina654 Місяць тому

      @@JoeEmb776Yeeeeeah. I've made original music and gotten nothing for it, lol. Maybe I should have made some mixtapes of chillout music and actually made money.

  • @mauhu
    @mauhu 2 місяці тому +157

    it's crazy how macroblank can slow down hundreds of tracks, and release them under different names. It would be 1000% better if they just release it as mixes.

    • @thecrapehanger24
      @thecrapehanger24 2 місяці тому +7

      Better for who?

    • @ArcticaQuantum
      @ArcticaQuantum 2 місяці тому +6

      yeah i don't think taking one of the most unique aspects of macroblanks work away would make "it" ""better""

    • @mauhu
      @mauhu 2 місяці тому +26

      @@ArcticaQuantum they can still make his edits to it, but I think they shouldn’t release them under a different name. UA-cam usually recognises most of the songs used but about 30% of all songs go uncredited. That’s assuming that everyone scrolls down the description.

    • @ArcticaQuantum
      @ArcticaQuantum 2 місяці тому +13

      @@mauhu a good portion of the artists sampled are completely defunct and if his track were released as a remix it would never be found or played. i agree there should be room for crediting the original artists and more edits, but doing away with the artist name / the album format decontextualizes the tracks so they don't blend as a cohesive piece.

    • @ArcticaQuantum
      @ArcticaQuantum 2 місяці тому +6

      give the original artists a cut of the revenue (if any. most of the bb artists make next to nothing) in the same manner hiphop artists do

  • @rhoansuede7938
    @rhoansuede7938 Місяць тому +25

    I just had a SHORT listen on some of them, basically it's just Nu Jazz/Trip Hop named differently (Correct me if I'm wrong)? You got Thievery Corporation, Tosca, Kruder and Dorfmeister, Fila Brazilia, Kid Loco, early Bonobo, Air etc.

    • @omarnsimpson908
      @omarnsimpson908 Місяць тому +12

      Yeah, there are some Barber Beats projects that truly are doing something new or innovative but so much of it just sounds like Gen Z kids who found somebody’s old collection of late 90s and early 2000s Cafe Del Mar and Trip-Hop compilations and pulled a Steamed Hams with it.

  • @cloudbloom
    @cloudbloom 2 місяці тому +52

    Around 5 years ago I got really into barber beats, however as with many genres like chillwave it started to come with lots of imitators who barely put effort into making the music unique. Basically it got oversaturated quickly and it's harder to find the true gems in the genre

    • @faloel
      @faloel 2 місяці тому +1

      omg its mr. cloudbloom

    • @cloudbloom
      @cloudbloom 2 місяці тому

      @@faloel which running gag on a youtube channel comment section do you know me from?

    • @faloel
      @faloel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@cloudbloom not youtube but this one berserk group somewhere else 🤫

    • @cloudbloom
      @cloudbloom 2 місяці тому +2

      @@faloel ah nice, probably the group berserk shitposting arc on facebook. I actually stopped using all social media (besides youtube) the day I found out Miura died so I haven't been on there since

    • @Paul.......
      @Paul....... Місяць тому

      ​@cloudbloom why did a manga artist's death cause you to quit social media?

  • @T_D_B_
    @T_D_B_ Місяць тому +12

    This isn't really sampling. More like entire tracks slowed and maybe filtered, and EQed... I'm not against it, but let's be clear. Terms like sampling have meanings.

  • @suss2484
    @suss2484 2 місяці тому +118

    There are so many on the rise barber beat artists, it's crazy. Slowerpace, Dirty River, Oblique Occasions, there's so many great artists with huge discographies 🦑💜

    • @trueno8743
      @trueno8743 2 місяці тому +5

      absolutely loved punishment, can't wait to see what OO does next 🎉

    • @user-qs6np6hh5r
      @user-qs6np6hh5r 2 місяці тому +12

      OO isn't on the rise, he's one of the OGs lol

    • @trueno8743
      @trueno8743 2 місяці тому +1

      @@user-qs6np6hh5r im aware, i just like their most recent project lol

    • @trillconfirmed
      @trillconfirmed 2 місяці тому +16

      Easy to have a huge discography when you're just sampling without any edits lol

    • @idaten-dragonsoul
      @idaten-dragonsoul 2 місяці тому +1

      OO’s semi recent Ketamine series really impressed me, I had fun listening to almost all of them (Ket 5 was just okay) absolutely love the guy

  • @dynamicdingus7003
    @dynamicdingus7003 2 місяці тому +6

    I have been listening to slowerpace and macroblank a bit. I also like a Chilean guy called Mabisyo. However, I listen to his jazzy atmospheric stuff more. It's so good. "Sun colored eyes" and "In the dreams of a dragon" are amazing

  • @TUPPERWAVE
    @TUPPERWAVE 2 місяці тому +97

    Pad “MF” Chennington - the realest

  • @lpharmer3496
    @lpharmer3496 Місяць тому +5

    It's desert sand feels warm at night is a interesting artist since he makes entirely original music but then slows it down to a snail's pace plus reverb

    • @hydrophobia936
      @hydrophobia936 Місяць тому

      Love their stuff. I use desert sand's music for sleep aid.

    • @truestory2990
      @truestory2990 Місяць тому +3

      His most played and well known track is literally just a Taiwanese pop song slowed down and stretched to 20 minutes

  • @knownartiste
    @knownartiste 2 місяці тому +59

    hey there, i saw some of my thumbnails! nice video. barber beats to me is like dadaism; it sort of spits in the face of decorum but allows artists to express and recontextualize as they see fit. it's sharing, it can be poetic, it is not held up by a central theme or hierarchy. there are ways to elevate and inject more 'artistic integrity' back into a project too. that's up to the artist.

    • @Hozokauh
      @Hozokauh 2 місяці тому +7

      𝐺𝑂𝑅𝐸 said it best: all art is recycled

    • @OutHere1
      @OutHere1 Місяць тому +3

      ⁠@@Hozokauh said it best: all art is recycled

  • @JukeboxHistory
    @JukeboxHistory 2 місяці тому +52

    Oh man this is awesome. I’ve seen these in my feed on UA-cam for years and had no idea what it was so I’m happy you uploaded this. Also love to see you doing a topic that is very clearly up your alley. Huge fan of all your videos but this topic screams “Pad Chennington”. Killer stuff

  • @Red4mber
    @Red4mber 2 місяці тому +11

    I kinda treat barber beats like mixes more than albums
    Nobody would get angry at a dj set because it's just plundered songs, it's here to set up a mood, it's the same for barber beats and they absolutely deliver
    As per selling records, i don't really know what to think about that, because to be fair, if my favorite mixes started selling on records, i'd probably buy a few of them, but i would expect them to be honest about it
    I mean not just telling that they plundered everything, but putting the actual songs in the tracklist

    • @TheMrShnickers
      @TheMrShnickers Місяць тому

      My same thoughts, it's pretty hypocritical for people to dissapprove of Barber beats mixers and not DJs who always play around with the music

  • @snoopypoopie849
    @snoopypoopie849 2 місяці тому +7

    One of the reasons I love vaporwave is because once u hear a mix that u definitely love and cannot get enough of u look for the sample and by listening to the sample it’s as if u are rediscovering the song again and you get excited waiting for that samples part to come up,, I love how vaporwave lets you discover artists with amazing tracks that u might’ve not even be able to have a chance to come across

  • @ColdFuse96
    @ColdFuse96 2 місяці тому +44

    I just found your channel, and wow. I love it!!! These things like psychedelic or existential musical genres really interest me, but I thought everything was just an offspring of Vaporwave, but you made me realize there's way, way more to it than that. It's a whole world of music, and you do such an excellent job documenting and explaining it all. Godspeed on your future uploads!!!!

    • @E3T7
      @E3T7 Місяць тому +1

      Fantastic channel, been here a few years and hope you’ll stay with me a few more :)

  • @smugdancinghatkid5047
    @smugdancinghatkid5047 Місяць тому +1

    One Album that always really reminds of this vibe and kind of sample based production is Devon Hendryx's "Dreamcast Summer Songs" . The fascinating part is that this came out in 2009, before Vaporwave and similar genres where even a thing, which is why some people call it the first Vaporwave album. It's also heavily inspired by videogames and anime. I don't really think of it as a vaporwave record but Hendryx really was ahead of his time with this dreamy and nostalgia-based sound. Given it's recent rise in popularity, due to him becoming popular under the name Jpegmafia, I guess some people in the barber beats community may have been heavily inspired by it. It's a phenomenally produced album, definitely worth checking out :)

  • @JHanrahan
    @JHanrahan Місяць тому +3

    I don’t think it’s even remotely up for debate that posting someone else’s work as your own is just theft if you don’t even change it.

  • @BarbWaltersMusic
    @BarbWaltersMusic 2 місяці тому +35

    Rory Macdonald on a cover hits different

  • @remembernavarro5344
    @remembernavarro5344 Місяць тому +3

    I had listened to a bunch of Haircuts for Men and Macroblank and thought there was some sampling involved and that was it... had no idea a lot of the songs are literally lifted from other artists, barely edited. I see in the comments that some people try to take the high road and call them/themselves "curators" but if that was the case then they would credit the original artists appropriately instead of being cheeky and translating everything to japanese to make it harder to find the original songs, selling their albums and even selling merch! Kinda like the NFT/AI bros of the music world...

  • @sweetwheatsy
    @sweetwheatsy 2 місяці тому +14

    Dude. As an avid Haircuts for Men-listener for many years by now, this was really fascinating. At first I had no idea what to make of it and just bought it at face-value as someone who actually constructed these chill beats - or perhaps added a saxophone on it, since so many of the tracks had a sax. But then I heard the one mixtape where they use Windowlicker by Aphex Twin and I knew something was up.
    I think the Coronamix they made is my favorite, because it's straight up a sort of DJ-set where they make all the tracks flow well into each other, so it's both more of a original product and also really good at the same time.
    Fascinating nonetheless. Can't resist the chill vibes at times though.

  • @ScoutLuke
    @ScoutLuke 2 місяці тому +26

    Shoutout to DΛRKNΣSS! My favorite artist dabbling with this genre 🖤

    • @acouphene01
      @acouphene01 2 місяці тому +3

      The GOAT himself, doesn't get enough credit

    • @skog9944
      @skog9944 2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah Darku is really the GOAT

    • @saadvon
      @saadvon Місяць тому +2

      REAL!!!

  • @Lose-Yourself-To-Dance
    @Lose-Yourself-To-Dance 2 місяці тому +34

    I think we can call them "musical curators" and if they edit samples - "producers" as well.
    With how much music there is, spotlighting good music becomes an important task. And that is what they do.

    • @Hozokauh
      @Hozokauh 2 місяці тому +6

      we are, at best, humble curators. at worst, petty pilferers.
      undersaken has called barber beats curation as an art form

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 Місяць тому +1

      It's really no different from hip hop remixes from the 80s

  • @algernonsblackwoods5859
    @algernonsblackwoods5859 Місяць тому +2

    I found Macroblank and a dude called Middle MGMT last year and they hooked me. Driving barber beats, jogging barber beats, chilling out barber beats yeah i think you get the point.

  • @tHatGuYdubs
    @tHatGuYdubs Місяць тому +3

    Seeing it discussed like this makes me think of barber beats as more of a subgenre of plunderphonics that evolved its aesthetics heavily from vaporwave. Considering a lot of plunderphonics artists also don't know whether to call themselves DJ's/Producers/ or simply music curators the connection there is strong. Not to mention the headache that is sample clearing a heavily sampled release, a lot of the plunderphonics crew don't monetize their stuff at all, except for maybe the bigger names like The Avalanches who spent years trying to get projects released.

  • @Gabriel_mendes360
    @Gabriel_mendes360 2 місяці тому +10

    Babe… wake up! He’s back!

  • @Estmaraver
    @Estmaraver 2 місяці тому +12

    Been seeing you on the Slowerpace comment sections. You've been consuming this like Skittles.

    • @PadChennington
      @PadChennington  2 місяці тому +9

      seriously can't get enough of slowerpace, every release is such a banger. loved the latest one pyromaniac

    • @Estmaraver
      @Estmaraver 2 місяці тому

      @@PadChennington The music is so good for BGM. I loved Pyromaniac, especially due to the Shadowrun cover art, but my personal favorites are Bellum Divinum and Barbershop Simulator.
      The first track of Bellum Divinum, Duellum Gigantum, has an intensity quite uncommon in the genre.

  • @justnvm.
    @justnvm. 2 місяці тому +2

    Ah yes Barber Beats, the Classical Music of Vaporwave, glad you could finally cover it

  • @matthew_thefallen
    @matthew_thefallen Місяць тому +1

    I remember reading a comment in one of these playlists saying "Barber beats is how i always imagined vaporwave to feel and sound like" and i felt that.

  • @ryhu8344
    @ryhu8344 2 місяці тому +3

    I appreciate the Trip Hop revival the sound has, but it would be better if there were new artists who could recreate the “barber beats” sound with a clean slate instead of sampling other artists and slapping their own name on it.
    The vibe and aesthetic is nice. The potential is promising. But the plagiarism aspect needs to go in order for it to be the next incarnation of Trip Hop.
    When it comes to VapourWave bringing back Trip Hop, George Clanton gets it right.

  • @xXBocephusXx
    @xXBocephusXx Місяць тому +3

    I absolutely love barber beats! The remember a year or two ago seeing Macroblanks mix with the Nazgûl on the front and thinking I had to see what it was. I’ve been hooked ever since then.

  • @TheRealVRA
    @TheRealVRA Місяць тому +2

    Its great as far as being a curator of music goes.
    I really wish people didnt compare it to actual beat making though. This is just making a mixtape and making album art.
    I dont really know if its an art form explicitly, but its cool.

  • @vvalentine99
    @vvalentine99 2 місяці тому +2

    holy shit, haven't seen you pop up on my feed for years. glad to see you're still around man. time to catch up on what i've missed.

  • @EeveeEuphoria
    @EeveeEuphoria 2 місяці тому +27

    i'm an artist myself, not a musical artist, but my take is that it's pretty cool. the only thing i wish for was more attribution to the original artists, but it's otherwise a fascinating genre. i have many of macroblank's albums that i downloaded before bandcamp shut them down, and i continue to listen to them pretty regularly. and hey, it's nice to see people start to do sample-free takes on the genre, the one album you showed briefly is one that i'll definitely buy soon.

  • @ZephY2K
    @ZephY2K 2 місяці тому +11

    This is the classic Pad content I stay around for! Lol
    Love barber beats, I’ve been listening to soooo much slowerpace lately

  • @johnasimakis7970
    @johnasimakis7970 Місяць тому +9

    Why not just give credit to the original artist? For example, have the cover art state the name of the original or something.

  • @Xz_Detrix707_zX
    @Xz_Detrix707_zX 2 місяці тому +3

    I am freaking out! I am not the only one in the world that knows about this stuff omg.
    I really, really like their music and didn’t realised the “history” around them. - Even though they can be still considered “lazy” i still really like them and i feel like i would’ve never even thought of hearing the originals without it. - the reason i feel like it can make productive is because of the whole nature of it, the music make you feel like your getting ready to work at your “million dollar company” or “getting dressed/groomed for a action movie.” Makes you in a very productive type of mood where you are ready to get things done. One of my favorites is haircut’s for mens : Nothing special, nothing wonderful (especially the track “sweatpants”) is one of my favourite songs or things ever. This video was really good and i really like it a lot ! I really like this type of content and i hope you continue it! Also hi from Brazil

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington  2 місяці тому +254

    What are your thoughts on Barber Beats? Do you dig em or nah?

    • @harmonyinultraviolet
      @harmonyinultraviolet 2 місяці тому +39

      A bit of a confessional moment.
      I don't want to be the guy who shouts "these people steals other people's work into their own stuff" or whatever, because realistically I also use samples in my music.
      Barber beats legit made me jealous as an artist because the amount of work they put in is way little than other producers - I would say even compared with vaporware artists who do intricate micro-sampling arrangements. Yet they gained lots of popularity in the scene. I'd say that - but I can't really control the factor of popularity in general.
      Understandably barber beats was made in favor of making a playlist of already-existent songs but with different vibe and feel, and producing a whole new music is whole another thing.
      But at the end of the day, the existence of barber beats taught me to actually be a better producer who can actually compose music, who can actually flip samples creatively, because when people recognize my work, I know deep in my heart that I actually constructed those music piece by piece, and not just stretching and reverbing music.

    • @polygonplus9999
      @polygonplus9999 2 місяці тому +42

      barber beats producer (savant shadow) here:
      recently i've changed my opinions on albums in the genre. while i think they're cool as music despite their "lazy" nature, i don't consider them albums so much as mixes. as such i've switched my position as an "artist" to "mixer" or even an "mp3 jockey."
      morally is a different story. i've recently tried to credit those who i "sample", as i've tried to switch to a more mix-oriented style. while it's undoubtedly questionable in terms of morality, one can argue that any morph in a song can classify it as "original." at the end of the day, i'd say crediting samples in vaporwave in general is better, i want people to not only see our side but the original side of things.

    • @scaacacsc
      @scaacacsc 2 місяці тому +44

      Barber beats is the music graphic designers make when they make a sick album cover but they suck at actually producing.

    • @lava-yq7tf
      @lava-yq7tf 2 місяці тому +11

      I personally don't mind them but I kinda laugh to myself when people get sad that their favorite barber beats albums get taken down but the album is just unknown jazz songs that are slowed down.

    • @Gloin1994
      @Gloin1994 2 місяці тому +2

      There is nothing better for me to listen at work. Calm and relaxing.

  • @contextiseverythingmediane2816
    @contextiseverythingmediane2816 2 місяці тому +3

    The Patreon email of a NEW Pad video is always a good vibe 😌

  • @seanrogers449
    @seanrogers449 5 днів тому

    I remember showing HFM to friends in 2019 and it genuinely blew some people away who were NOT your typical Vaporwave enjoyers. When MACROBALNK popped up for the first time I remember the words shared between them and HFM were pretty bitter. It's been nice seeing the genre grow more, especially in ways that stray away from what made HFM's sound so iconic.

  • @CeladonPlaza
    @CeladonPlaza 2 місяці тому +22

    Long Live Barber Beats. ✌

  • @danielfishburn7042
    @danielfishburn7042 2 місяці тому +97

    Vaporwave: a genre literally based on slowing down music and selling it on a cassette.
    R/vaporwave: this is wrong :((((

    • @l1ghtning334
      @l1ghtning334 2 місяці тому +25

      Slowing down your own created music.Look, I'm not someone to complain about sampling in music and vaporwave is far from being the only genre that uses samples extensivly and i do believe that people can impove the work of others but there has to at least be some acknowledgement of the original

    • @josephs.3372
      @josephs.3372 2 місяці тому

      Vaporwave: shoving FX up the ass to make a song sound different from the original
      Barberbeats: reuploading the song, or detuning it a half-step
      are you 16 years old? do you have kid-brain still?

    • @jacobjb
      @jacobjb 2 місяці тому +11

      I think this is an oversimplification, yes vaporwave at it's core is based on slowing down music but there is a lot more done to it with effects, production and chopping. Artists like Macroblank and Haircuts for Men do not get a pass because they do the bare minimum of slow it down and that's literally all they do. The cuts are simple to nonexistent and add nothing, the effects are not there or barely add anything. The samples are a crutch not a tool with a lot of these barber beats artists. I will not say it is all of them but with a lot of them it is.

    • @lemonheins2720
      @lemonheins2720 2 місяці тому

      @@l1ghtning334 This. jesus christ.

    • @grimmerjxcts2206
      @grimmerjxcts2206 Місяць тому +1

      Reddit 💩

  • @Zaburino
    @Zaburino Місяць тому +11

    I discovered this subgenre a couple years ago through Macroblank and loved it, I've been listening to vaporwave since Eccojams Vol.1. But it didn't take long until I saw in the comments people posting names of the barely edited source songs, and alarmingly, other people complaining that their source lists were being deleted. I can get behind these "albums" being more considered as mixtapes and the artists being more like DJs or curators, but actively hiding the names and artists of the songs they use feels more unethical than straight up piracy to me. I'm honestly glad a few Barber Beat "artists" got all their stuff scrubbed from Bandcamp, if only to push the rest of the scene to be a bit more innovative and creative.
    While I don't think fair use legally applies to any of this, I use the idea of a "transformative work" as a guiding star when evaluating a genre like this. As I listened to Macroblank that first few days, for every beat that I loved grooving to, there was another that sounded like a lazy flip of slowed-down Balearic downtempo or jazz. While with classic vaporwave there were enough elements in a song or edits to a sample that, even though many famous samples are easily recognizable, the end result felt like an actual new song. Very few Barber Beat tracks meet this standard.
    And then I step back and think about people decrying any sampling being used in the 80s and 90s and how ridiculous I thought they looked, and all the gigabytes of mp3s I pirated before Spotify came to the Western Hemisphere, and several famous examples of theft-as-art in the Visual Arts; even though I find fault with the ethics of these artists, I'm ultimately very excited to follow this new evolution of Vaporwave wherever it leads us. Watching a new genre or subgenre grow and spread in real-time is one of my favorite pastimes as a music nerd, even when it is seemingly growing itself into an ouroboros.

  • @brunoite1101
    @brunoite1101 9 днів тому

    "i like to think of Barber Beats as audio coffee" sums it up pretty darn well

  • @Yhvhfollower
    @Yhvhfollower 2 місяці тому

    This popped in my recommended today, haven't seen your vids in a while and you've really improved your writing over the years, good job man

  • @SkyIsTumbling
    @SkyIsTumbling 2 місяці тому +54

    the type of sounds in barber beats is really way more complex than you can make it out to be on surface level, it’s a perfectly balanced mixture of tons of different genres like jazz, world music, jungle, downtempo, shoegaze, trip hop, gnawa, like barber beats to a certain point can have almost every other genre inside of it and it can work.
    the best albums will organize and blend completely different genres together track to track, to almost weave a narrative out of different genres and samples.
    haircuts for men’s original vision is really imbedded in this imo, and alot of new artist’s completely disregard a big part of the genre’s identity by just calling it lounge or just sampling the same lounge artists they have been over and over again.
    you can really sample anything in barber beats, as long as you know the limits of what you can do in the genre. honestly it can be one of the coolest vaporwave genres when you see how it can make hauntology out of any genre, culture, and history.
    but honestly, there are so many different views and perspectives on this genre that i can see anyones view as valid.
    i’ve seen the genre rise and grow since it was just haircuts for men, from tokyo to honolulu, & and | nothing | back in 2018-2020.
    i really love the genre, it’s molded and shaped my whole music tastes as it has led me to discover tons of new genres and artists i love, just from finding samples used in barber beats.
    it’s the most beautiful form of hauntology and sharing cultural memories and even just best way to find new music for me.

    • @dffgffffffdddddddddd
      @dffgffffffdddddddddd 2 місяці тому +15

      It's literally looped triphop that's slowed down the songs are literally copyright on all their "albums"

    • @SkyIsTumbling
      @SkyIsTumbling 2 місяці тому

      @@dffgffffffdddddddddd ❤️

    • @polygonplus9999
      @polygonplus9999 2 місяці тому +7

      @@dffgffffffdddddddddd the dude ur replying to creates original barber beats, if anything he'd know more on the genre

    • @deathwave8375
      @deathwave8375 2 місяці тому +6

      reading your description, gen z literally made "Thievery Corporation: the genre" lmao

    • @sergedotcom
      @sergedotcom 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@deathwave8375 we need to go back we did these kids wrong

  • @Armrongeddon
    @Armrongeddon Місяць тому +5

    Elevator music.

  • @MediaBoy13
    @MediaBoy13 Місяць тому +1

    Always love seeing a new video from you, especially on genres I haven't heard of before. I also find your videos on these genres inspiring to create my own music and art

  • @whizthesugoi
    @whizthesugoi День тому

    i think it's really funny you specifically said "plundered" here, as in Macroblank's bio
    a lot of these songs feel kind of "stolen", but i love a lot of them, and specially the way they put the songs together

  • @TheDarkYoshi64
    @TheDarkYoshi64 2 місяці тому +4

    “It’s time for the moment you’ve been waiting fooooor!”

  • @drewbullinger5825
    @drewbullinger5825 2 місяці тому +6

    Love the Snowpoint Lounge shoutout

  • @Vampyroteuthis
    @Vampyroteuthis 2 місяці тому +1

    Pad youre videos scratch such a niche itch for me and i love you for it!!!

  • @calvinguile1315
    @calvinguile1315 Місяць тому +1

    It’s basically buying a various artist compilation of the same genre of music, which is/was always fun

  • @spacecatet1754
    @spacecatet1754 2 місяці тому +5

    I have enjoyed many Barber Beats albums throughout the years that it's existed. For the most part, I wish Barber Beats "producers" were more up front about their source material. I always find myself wanting to find the original tracks and artists who made the songs in the first place. Sure, youtube does pretty well with copyright detection of these tracks (as stated in the video). But there are always certain tracks in these albums that I am unable to identify and I feel like it is a disservice to the original creators.

  • @Intrepid_Wolf
    @Intrepid_Wolf 2 місяці тому +1

    I was waiting for you to cover Barber Beats. I absolutely love the genre and the creators that are apart of it. The community is really great and I certainly enjoy hearing what each creator mixes up next!

  • @timbull194
    @timbull194 2 місяці тому +1

    The fact every cover has so much style is probably the main reason I like it. It's just so vibes

  • @VANITAS567
    @VANITAS567 2 місяці тому +4

    yo! thanks for showing BARBER BEATER PT 2 シ​ャ​ー​プ​な​カ​ッ​テ​ィ​ン​グ​コ​ー​ム's cover art in the beginning of the video!
    i wanted to point out that this album, and BARBER BEATER 床屋を打ち負かす音楽, is a reaction to the genre. part 1 reacts in heavily chopping sampled tracks making them non detectable. for part 2 everything is sampleless & slowed as a barberbeats/vaporwave artist in traditional sense would. the Barber beater albums tries not to be lazy. :)
    i also want to add that these reactions are very inspired by the genre and in no way a form of disrespect. barberbeats has become the new sound and is very catchy. the lazy edits actually inspired me to make these. it's way harder to keep stuff minimal and keep it lazy than you think! curious where it will take vaporwave ❤

    • @artlover7770
      @artlover7770 2 місяці тому +1

      You had some unholy amount of subscribers so I fixed it ;)

    • @VANITAS567
      @VANITAS567 2 місяці тому

      @@artlover7770 welcome nr 667! thats luck on top 💕

  • @GO-tq6hs
    @GO-tq6hs 2 місяці тому +3

    for me personally barber beats is about the curation and not creation. i think the original artists should get the majority of the kickback, but at the same time lots of these tracks are things people would never generally hear. I know lots of tracks were coming from like licensed generic dj library albums, basically contract work for the original artists. So the only chance you might have had to hear some of these is if you were at a live event they were played at, or if you are digging for samples on obscure catalogs. I know everyone is different, but personally if i was one of the original artists and my track blew up because it was on a macroblank album I'd be really thankful that people were listening to it and enjoying it. That being said, I'd still want credit. I think most barber beats producers operate on the whole "beg for forgiveness instead of ask for permission" which maybe if that changed the genre wouldn't be so controversial.

  • @KrazyKaiser
    @KrazyKaiser Місяць тому +1

    Regardless of how much effort they put into the music, they sure do put a lot of effort into the artwork/aesthetic.

  • @ohwell2088
    @ohwell2088 2 місяці тому

    Pad you partially got me thorugh the pandemic and your content is strangely nostalgic to me now, I was in your streams 3 to 4 years ago. Thanks for puttingo out such in depth and interesting videos.

  • @SundreeOFFICIAL
    @SundreeOFFICIAL 2 місяці тому +28

    I love Barber Beats to be honest. It's been one of my top favorite vaporwave subgenres over the past couple of years; and I own more Barber Beats cassettes than vaporwave ones at this point. But gosh I really would love the genre even more if I could use their music in my videos- and if 95% of the genre wasn't wrecked by UA-cam's content ID system.
    Also ROMBREAKER MENTIONED LETS GOOO‼🔥🔥

  • @claymore6170
    @claymore6170 Місяць тому +3

    To me the people that make barber beats are curators, their work is similar to the one of a dj in the sense that they capture an aesthetic with purposely picked and manipulated tracks or samples. While the music by it self is clearly not original, with the manipulation and in conjuntion with the other tracks or samples a new body of work is created with a ditinct meaning/feeling diferent to the original material, that in my opinion has its own merit. They are the new djs of the digital bootleg era.

    • @GunShark0
      @GunShark0 Місяць тому

      Good points and well said.

  • @lolhuman25
    @lolhuman25 2 місяці тому +2

    Dude, I got so many of these albums recommended to me and the album covers looked metal af. So I gave one or two of them a listen at them expecting some sort of heavy music and what I find are mild beats to relax/study to, I got tonal whiplash.

  • @puzzlepuddles6712
    @puzzlepuddles6712 Місяць тому

    how do you always seem to make videos on the obscure genres of music i like?? amazing!

  • @Mysticalturkey
    @Mysticalturkey 2 місяці тому +3

    Wake up.. Pad Chennington uploaded..

  • @miguelpatino3856
    @miguelpatino3856 2 місяці тому +7

    It's like vaporwave... but now 70% lazier! (no hate, I say this as a vaporwave fan)

  • @hungryyelly
    @hungryyelly 4 дні тому

    Fantastic video! I got recommended macroblank about 2-3 years ago and have been down the rabbit hole ever since. I only recently discovered modest by default like 3 weeks ago and permaculture is a real treat.
    I love barber beats because they let me keep my focus clear and concise especially when I'm doing certain monotonous things at work.
    Barber beats are absolute motivation starters for me and I try and click any new ones the youtube algorithim recommends me.
    Another artist that I've been enjoying thats a bit closer to nujabes as opposed to barber beats is Vanilla. Summer is my absolute favourite track they've made.
    The soundscapes get even deeper when you get a newer piece of audio equipment.
    I remember I got my first pair of IEMs and relistened to some vanilla and macroblank and it just made my jaw drop.
    Fantastic video mate
    👍

  • @joaobellesneto1180
    @joaobellesneto1180 3 дні тому +1

    The sound track of my day is Modest by Default ❤

  • @JasonKim1
    @JasonKim1 2 місяці тому +3

    Once again, love your music writing

  • @ben7047
    @ben7047 2 місяці тому +3

    Lets go! I was waiting for this one :)

  • @GriefBurrito
    @GriefBurrito Місяць тому

    Great video, it's a genre we all stumbled on and I'm so grateful for the breakdown of where it's come from

  • @eyjeymusic
    @eyjeymusic Місяць тому +2

    Superb content quality, please keep up the incredible work!! 👏🏼

    • @PadChennington
      @PadChennington  Місяць тому

      Thank you homie! Got a lot more videos planned for 2024, stay tuned!

  • @radiak55
    @radiak55 2 місяці тому +18

    I've listened exclusively to HfM since 2018 and didn't know there was more until last year. I think that Vapor wave is the decade defining music of this era.
    Because one thing is to have these re-revivals of Past decades creeping up like first with the 80s, then the 90s (which was a revival of the 70s) into being a sort of placebo effect of the thing many millenials and Gen Z look fondly on their early years. Now turned into more of commercializing nostalgia.
    I think that Vaporwave is a true attempt to use all of these ties that we have to the past and make the remix an actual choice. The fact that the barber beat offshoot to me looks like the midpoint of being a creative mixtspe from a fully realised album was a happy coincidence.
    Maybe too much thinking into this but the same way oeoo younger than 40 can't achieve the apparent hallmarks of adulthood like being a homeowner, stable income etc and then drift their expenses and interests elsewhere (the whole thing of milenials killing X industry is more because their interests are different from past generations)

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 Місяць тому

      I agree, vaporwave is very much a reaction to the the cultural death of the West and gen millennial onward's coping and lamenting of that. All of our faded memories of better times and our desperate attempt to go back to when our societies still seemed to function and produce works worthy of being called art

  • @SnakeBush
    @SnakeBush Місяць тому +10

    uhm i dont think you get it bro

  • @theDurman
    @theDurman Місяць тому +1

    The artwork is awesome too. Such a good style, across so many albums and artists. Been enjoying haircuts for years

  • @PortervilleMusicSociety
    @PortervilleMusicSociety 2 місяці тому

    SUCH an honor to see this genre getting some attention!!! I am such a big fan of this genre and I totally love Pad so BIG WIN! And for my birthday today too!!! yesssss

  • @snoopypoopie849
    @snoopypoopie849 2 місяці тому +5

    I discovered HFM during COVID when we had all of our classes online it really helped me get through most of my assignments and from there on I started listening to barber beats the rest of my school years I thank HFM, Macroblank and Oblique Occasions for helping me graduate couldn’t done it without them literally

  • @foamq
    @foamq 2 місяці тому +16

    haircut for men carried me during corona times
    i never knew the genre name until now, absolutely wonderful for more people to find more music with the same style like haircuts for men and macroblank
    thank you for covering the history and the nuance behind the genre.

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 Місяць тому +1

      Unfortunately a lot of these esoteric alt music genres are never known by name. Like jungle

  • @MisterW00D
    @MisterW00D Місяць тому

    Yo, thank you for the massive shoutout! HFM and Macroblank are the reason I'm here, so to peg me as someone who helped push the genre to where it is today is wild to me, I appreciate it a ton (0.75x)

  • @MR.FREEDMAN
    @MR.FREEDMAN Місяць тому +1

    I've been waiting for someone to cover this.

  • @mohabexpert123
    @mohabexpert123 2 місяці тому +17

    Ayyy Big Daddy Paddy! Macroblank goes crazy

  • @codybassett112
    @codybassett112 2 місяці тому +1

    thank you for introducing me to a new genre. looking into this and boombap now.

  • @Demiero1
    @Demiero1 20 днів тому

    I got into this "genre" of music a long time ago starting with basic video game chip music, evolved to synth wave and I slowly found myself exposed to these types of music more frequently. Each of these releases are something the artists want to showcase, even if the idea is as simple as "What if this song was slower with a few sound effects here and there?" and instead of throwing these experiments away as attempts of plunder, we should encourage impressive and more experimental, thoughtful pieces of tracks, so this way like how we came from vaporware to here, we can evolve even further.

  • @Hozokauh
    @Hozokauh 2 місяці тому +15

    French philosopher Roland Barthes in 1967 wrote in Death of the Author, discussing the importance of detaching words from the author (or art from the artist), "The explanation of a work is always sought in the man or woman who produced it, as if it were always in the end... the voice of a single person, the author 'confiding' in us... We know now that a text is not a line of words releasing a single meaning, but a multi-dimensional space in which a variety of writings, none' of them original, blend and clash. His only power is to mix writings, to counter the ones with the others, in such a way as never to rest on anyone of them... To give a text an Author is to impose a limit on that text, to furnish it with a final signified, to close the writing... we know that to give writing its future, it is necessary to overthrow the myth: the birth of the Reader must be at the cost of the death of the Author."

    • @Hozokauh
      @Hozokauh 2 місяці тому +2

      it is, of course, not a direct comparison, but nonetheless: let the listener revel in the art, not the artist. barber beats 4ever

    • @josephs.3372
      @josephs.3372 2 місяці тому

      If they did this with Billie Eillish music you know their bitch asses would get the ban hammer immediately. There's no way around the unethical fuckery of what they do. It's literally copyright infringement. @@Hozokauh

    • @user-tp8ut7cs6j
      @user-tp8ut7cs6j 2 місяці тому +3

      I recommend you watch the documentary on YT called "Everything is a Remix," it's all about the current culture of sampling and remixing. It argues that this is basically how we have always created new things, by combining and reusing old creations. I'm also reminded of a quote that I read once (I think it was by Aldous Huxley) that said that we shouldn't look at the works of Shakespeare as being only the works of Shakespeare but a culmination of all of the culture of Elizabethan England. We are all simply reflections of the larger zeitgeist, endlessly reflecting each other in a kind of ever shifting hall of mirrors. Culture is always going to be a shared thing, no matter how much the market and the law tries to restrict that process.

    • @josephs.3372
      @josephs.3372 2 місяці тому

      @@user-tp8ut7cs6j all they have to do is credit the right creators. Why is it only a big ask for BB enthusiasts? You'd scream to high hell if you saw that in any other medium.

    • @Hozokauh
      @Hozokauh 2 місяці тому

      @@user-tp8ut7cs6j I will 100% check out this documentary. You are referencing TS Eliot in Tradition and the Individual Talent in 1919, where he discusses how the truest art is the most impersonal. He has a great analogy about a chemical reaction which I think is relevant. I debated between using that quote and the quote that I did in my above comment. :)

  • @ShinjiGetsGrounded
    @ShinjiGetsGrounded 2 місяці тому +26

    elevator music for zoomers

    • @Noizzed
      @Noizzed Місяць тому +1

      It's definitely more somber than you average elevator music lol

  • @voyanc
    @voyanc 2 місяці тому +1

    I think it's funny the coined term "Barber Beats" summoned from the fact Haircuts for Men was cancelled from Aloe after posting a Joker meme during the riots in 2020, then Macroblank, among others, took over.

    • @voyanc
      @voyanc 2 місяці тому

      And yet Oscob, does the same type of shitposting on twitter but is still getting releases made from Aloe.

  • @HazelSolitaire
    @HazelSolitaire 16 днів тому

    I literally just started making barber beats and I agree with the conundrum of whether or not I should consider the music "barbers" and I also entirely agree with the problem of people not giving credit to the original artists. The genre owes an immense amount to often unknown, underdog or even forgotten Downtempo artists. Barber beats is great imo as a recontextualization of tunes already out there and it's pretty much what I see it as. I've already made the mistake of calling my first piece of work an "album". You're right, it's a mixtape. Thank you for weighing in on this and humbling the genre a bit.

  • @william_vanhoof
    @william_vanhoof 2 місяці тому +4

    I love the sound of barber beats, but more often than not these are just self-made compilations/mixes of other people’s work - oftentimes work that is provided royalty free. For a barber beats compiler to place their name on those tracks instead and then have the gall to sell them online is a bit of a slap in the face to the artist(s) who originally made those tracks. And hey, I get it. Copyright is flawed. It’s not easy to clear samples. And if there’s a fairly strong transformative element to the track other than slowing it down x0.5 then maybe there’s firmer ground to stand on.
    I’m cool with spreading the joy this music brings and having compilers display it in a fun and organized fashion for free (if the original samples/tracks included are free originally), but these barber beats compilers should do the bare minimum and at least credit the samples or the entire track. If they’re going to sell a track that didn’t involve any further mixing, reach out to the original artists and arrange for proper compensation. Otherwise, just don’t include the track.
    Just saying “Most of this was plundered” or something to that effect is like when somebody reposts art online with the description “Credit: Google” or “Credit: idk.” These guys know the names these songs originally had. They know the names of the original artists. And if they don’t provide it, they shouldn’t be surprised when the UA-cam algorithm finds out for them.

    • @josephs.3372
      @josephs.3372 2 місяці тому +2

      Finally, someone else with some god damn sense. Barber beats makes Vaporwave's "plunder" look like divinely inspired original music. There's so many ways to skirt copyright laws and get away with making something unique from others' works, so I'm shocked that barber beats managed to be so fucking lazy and deceiving given how much you can do with DAWs now.

    • @Zoahhh
      @Zoahhh Місяць тому

      Spot on