It's because you can change your lineups up to the start of the last game. No one's lineups are complete or lock until the last game starts so therefore they cannot have that information to give you.
Hoyer was a Back up QB who wasn't even starting. He came in at the 3rd Quarter when the starter got hurt and went for 200 plus with 3 T.D. The first place guy had Hoyer???? LMFAO, WHO STARTS A BACK UP QB who only got in the game because of injury? This Shit flat out cheats.....
I fuckin remember that... I said the same thing, like who the fuck picking hoyer in the first place when you gamble... what that's like a billion to 1 odds... but it happens every week....
I had Matt Ryann with 47 points after all the games finished. After several minutes when I looked at Matt Ryann score again it changed to 43. They could have made a mistake or be cheating. I've seen players scores change before a while after game is over. I emailed draft kings but got no response.
After week one I looked at the 120.000 winner. Not only did he start Fitzpatrick. He had the Top scorer at every position within the salary range. He had the best possible line up. I am starting to think they keep you hooked by throwing out a few bucks but don't ever expect to hit a jackpot
I have hit jackpots.. The odds are stacked against you, it's GAMBLING. That's what gambling is.. It's not supposed to be easy to gamble and win, it never is
I def believe there's some bs going on but it's the the fantasy pros mostly and the sites tolerate it because they spend so much I've hit 20k,10k,5k so it's possible but not easy
You can download the CSV file right at lock though. Because if what you were saying was the case you could just download the CSV file when the LU's lock and then compare it afterwards to see if those players have the same lineup at the end of the night.
I came in first place in the NBA playoffs last year with a weird lineup, but over 80 other people had the same lineup. I should have had 100K but only received 1.4K
@Heywood JM really who has the time to look through hundreds to thousands of lineups with names like crvdex65011 to see if it's fake? If it's duplicates you can easily switch players around unnoticeably.
guys, forget about cheating and just work on improving your own game, that's all you can control. I talk about some of the things I focus on in my NBA videos but it might be able to help nfl dfs players too, particularly the main one on my profile that talks about my process for building a team. good luck!
I have been watching kind of the same thing. I was noticing a person that was always in the same tournaments as me all the time so I started looking at his lineup as soon as the games started to see how close we were in players. The reason I watched him is because he always seem to be winning so I wanted to see his strategy etc... well multiple times before the games would end I would go look at his lineup again and somehow he wouldn’t be in the tourney any more because his team was not in the money. I also noticed the the percentage of players that were in lineups would change during the games and that shouldn’t be able to happen either. I sent draftkings a email to please explain and never heard back. Maybe this is something that needs to be investigated by the authorities ?
I've realized this last night. I bet on the bears Redskins game. The top players had a third string wr as their captain. Who starts a third string wr when he's been cold all year... last night he just happened to have 3 td.. We should start a lawsuit
I had $81.60 after my last round Robin I put in right before the 2nd fight during the ufc event last night, all of a sudden 10 min later I had $82.26...Couldnt figure out how it went from 81.60 to 82.26.. At the end of the night all my round Robbins lost except 1 and I won 66 cents from it. It's like they knew what the outcomes were gonna be and accidentally payed me early? I didnt cash anything out early either.. They woulda had to know the main event was gonna be cancelled/voided also cause one of the legs on all the parlays was Krylov.
I put in multiple lineups probably like everybody else, why the hell am I always down by 50 or more points within the first quarter and never catch up.
This happens to me all of the time lol. You literally have to have the best line up to win ANYTHING. And even then you may not win money because someone behind you will magically pass you. I like playing draft kings but its literally like playing the lottery its one big ass gamble.
Honestly i see a lot of people that only put like 3 tops and they win money. I can put in 20 the max and not win a damn cent. And most of the time i get at least 200 points in the nfl which isnt the best but its a good ratio to hopefully one day win something decent. I think my problem is the games im playing i need to find some that give you the best chance to win something. But have yet to find that kind of tournament
I been playing for 3 years now.. very regular guy. I play maybe 10 bucks max in a day and (knock on wood) I win fairly often ..never nothing in the realm of a million dollars or no shit. But over a thousand at least 30 times .. I won 1500 2 days ago playing 5 bucks
I entered a double up with top 10 paying out. I noticed that 12 entries with different user names had the exact same lineup. I noticed this happen before years ago in a nascar contest. Now, I make sure I enter a contest with a huge number of entries so this won't happen to me again.
I only came in 2nd place once on DFK and won $300.00 off a 50 cent bet. 🏆 But after that, I never one a big sum of money again and I've been playing for 4 years! I know I am good at picking players vs teams and cannot understand why I can't win a dime sometimes. I recognized how the NBA and NFL control players in games to limit how much fantasy points they get. I even noticed how DFK has poor updates and gives fantasy players misinformation about certain teams and players to throw off lineups. The NFL and NBA are the real sharks here. They have partial ownership in all the major sports betting platforms. They're taking fans money! The sharks swimming in those giant fish bowls above the stadium are the only ones winning!
Nevermind that so much. I thought about using my cellphone to tape people's lineups as the night progressed, and then compare the winning rosters with what they started with. Like you said, I think they are subbing in top players on the night, figuring nobody will remember who had who on their team + did you notice that say between periods of a hockey game, points are still changing, even though the games are on break smh
You may have not had any remaining players left in one of the later games. Therefore the people that had players in the late games passed you up. Happens all the time. also at the end of all games there are always stat adjustments correcting any errors or missed points. That usually wont throw you down too far though. Its usually the late games
@@CL-nc8rr I would of been checking to see who had a chance yet ya know. I won 4k on baseball one night. I was in 3rd place and then one of the last batters up at last game hit a walk off homer and none of the 2 people in front of me had him. I knew then I won top prize.
If you click "Export Lineups to CSV", which is available anytime after a contest begins (I believe, although I mostly play golf where lineups lock at one set time), export the lineups to excel at the beginning of the contest and end of the contest and cross reference them.
Your opponents remaining players are not locked until that game starts. So I could have a lineup with 4 players playing the one o'clock game and not even chose players for the 4 o'clock game until just before kickoff. Until players are locked, they are hidden from their competitors. Therefore, sorting of a hidden field will give inaccurate results. There may be some cheating going on in DFS. However, your argument is weak and doesn't prove anything.
Bruh my shit is saying they having difficulties with the website when I click Live but when I check my Contest on DK it shows the points I have. Definitely some funny business going as I speak.
I've won $3K twice in the past 3 weeks on DK in NBA. The first time I had the most PMR and knew I had a good shot. Took 1st in a GPP with 1500 entries. Didn't get overtaken by bots. I also won a satellite for the $888 in a 68 entry field full of sharks/bots. I took that and finished 49th out of 1200 for $3K in the actual GPP. I was in 10th in a qualifier for the NFL FFWC three weeks ago with by far the most players remaining and it still didn't work out, finished 22nd. I get what you're saying. It's possible, but it hasn't stopped me from taking down GPP's.
I have been playing dfs for 5 years. I hate how high the rake is but I also hate people crying “rigged” with no actual evidence. I have a PhD in statistics. I have complicated algorithms that run projections and my selection of gpp lineups. I do not win every week but I am a winning football and nba player. My biggest score was 25,000 in football. The things this guy is talking about aren’t even accurate. I’ve won at the last minute and lost at the last minute. It’s frustrating but it’s not evidence of cheating. Often times people who aren’t very good at this want to believe that their gut feelings can outperform those of us with sophisticated skill sets. It’s just not true. Everyone can get lucky but only a very very small few can beat the game in the long run.
Update: Did Fanduel on thurs. night football Rams vs Vikings. Had a pretty decent lineup going and I’d notice sometimes when I keep gaining points towards the winning cap I’d suddenly go down even after gaining, and I never lose anything from a player. It’s pissing me off
If you really suspected this, you could download the csv file at the beginning of the contest and at the end of it. Compare for discrepancies. Even with late swap, the salaries still have to add up, so bounce any changes off the salary sheet & you’ll have your answer.
Tim Chapin you’ll probably have to use the desktop version, but I can’t confirm that FD will provide a csv of the entries since I don’t play there. I do know they have a salary sheet, but I don’t know about the contests themselves.
Sometimes I feel that way. But if in contest that allows 250,000 plus to enter. Your chances are slim unless you can afford multiple entries. Also, if pick a player that starts game at 4 PM and contest starts at 1 PM you can change player before it starts. Draftkings allow that but think Fanduel everything is a lock. play contest for a single game then see if changes being made within game.
when I first started playing i was suppose to win top prize because no body was even close to my lineup in NBA tier and and somehow this lineup came out of nowhere and went 20 points ahead of me i still won a couple hundred but thanks for the video. They need to have a site with all the winners holding a check with a picture to prove people can win. And the game was also the last one of the night.
I agree I honestly never thought of that they should make that law have the winner of the tournament to take a picture with the check especially the big ones I think that will come a lot of people fears about cheating going on on theses sites great point brandon tedder.
Jake...I see that as well. It seems like they have a delay in algorythm which picks the highest point total of each producing players in their line up. Every time near the end of the games, one may be clearly in the lead on the leader board,.. then out of nowhere comes someone else who is not even seen near the point total of the leader board.
Naa I could of said the same thing yesterday...... but no some of these games just dont go the way you'd expect. For example last night I hit a 333. And I have players from a team that went into overtime.... and a game that was a blow out..... it helped me and hurt me..... and I always look to see who can catch me and it just so happened the guy I lost too had players from the same games.... he just anticipated a blow out... and I didn't.... but the guy I was afraid of losing too the guy who I thought would beat me got beat too..... so well just never know.... but I will say I've won fair and square and I ain't nobody special it's not easy..... you have too put in hours of hours of work...... I know a lot of people do this for fun... but its alot of us who do a ton of research and still pick one wrong player and yes you'll lose if you make one mistake.... but I dont just chalk it up to it's all rigged .... even if its rigged what happens when you have the same lineup and the rigged winner..... you sti win. But for example..... last night black griffen scored like 85 fantasy points...... if you didn't have I'm in your line up.... you didn't even come close to winning no matter who you had.... and he was only like 19% owned...... it bees like that sometimes...... you just have to have the most information so you can make the best available decision's....... nothing is guaranteed....... I use to think all the slots on online gambling sites were fake too.... until I hit for like 5 grand on a $5 spin..... hey it he's like that sometimes...... just remember the gambling isn't the sin...... Greed is.....
I thought that also. I won 10,000 on Golf. Didn't know anything about golf. Picked two underdogs in my lineup and they came in 1st and 2nd. On a $33 bet. So I said yet you can win.
I believe this is legit... During the Milwaukee vs. Dodgers the starter Wiley pitched one inning but the first place guy had woodruff on his ticket who wasn't even due to start... I'm like wtf
I have plenty of screen recordings of live bets and they just kicked me out of the entire app resulting into big money loses and they will say oh we see you be kicked we will get Back to you. Even promotion they don’t follow through either. A deposit in and was supposed to receive my 20% bonus 2 different times. I contact them and I never get through lmao.
DraftKings is not legit. I just sent an email saying I know that something is up because I know that all those players or bots can’t draft that well every tournament. I am not even winning my money back in these tournaments. I threw up 340 points in a nba tourney and didn’t even profit. Not only do they restrict you from filtering the lineups but if you looked at the owned percentage of a particular player that disappears throughout the tournament because that number is going to fluctuate since they are adding new lineups. It’s complete bull plus they just locked my account and will not respond to me. They need to put out of business because they are advertised as a game of skill well creating lineups and stealing people’s money isn’t a skill based game it’s fraud
They sent me an email saying they are the Fraud Team. So they know they are bad people. Maybe they will change but i doubt it. Bad means stupid. They can have all the money in the world but there are plenty of cops and hitmen after those idiots.
You can download the entire entry list at the beginning of the tournament. You're losing because you're playing multi every gpp's. It's essentially a lotto ticket.
What I can’t figure out is how are the scores for single entry contests just as high as those for multiple entry contests if cheating is not going on? Scores should be lower for these contests but they aren’t. NBA contests for example: the winner is gonna have a couple of studs and a couple of above average guys and then a couple of random low scoring guys that have an amazing game. I see how that can happen in a contest with 120 entries per player or 50 or whatever. But in a 20,000 player single entry contest how are there 300-400 people that have chosen these crazy lineups? 300 people scoring 340 or above in single entry contest??? No way.
so the winning scores are usually just as high, but the difference is, for example if you come in 75th place in a mass multi entry gpp it will be top 5 in the single entries. like high winning scores but not as many super high scores. plus those single entry teams are usually the proffessional or semi-pros optimal team. So its alot of great players best team if that makes sense at all.
I agree. I think there is a good amount of cheating that goes on. Last year I entered 600 lineups into 4 gpps during the conference championship for NFL. There was 2 contests and I was running dual accounts (I know... Cheating). Anyway, it's a 2 game slate. How the fuck did none of my lineups even make it near the top 10. You can't say "oh do your research" Bitch 600 lineups for 2 games I think I pretty much covered most possibilities. Every lineup different btw
Also notice how there's a guaranteed prize pool and it needs a hundred thousand more people to make the contest full with 20 minutes left. When the contest starts almost everytime contest is full.
Have anybody ever notice them editing the points after the game has been over for awhile. Ill be in some money but barely sometimes. All of the sudden some of my players points would flash red cause they have lost points way after the game is over. But then first place players would go up a little at the end. Crazy! If the game is over you shouldn't be able to change around points.
Its a stat correction but i had the same problem. I realized "stat correction" never pushed me up in rankings only down. I made multiple complaints about them regenerating lineups mid game and post game to push average players down the ranks. Suddenly I began winning 1st place and multiple top 5 finishes when i threatened an investigation. Seems suspicious to me. Draftkings is trash. Im 100% convinced employees hack and regenerate lineups after lock.
A couple things are going on here. The first claim which could be legitimate is DK and FD are putting their own lines I'm so that they get to keep as much of the prize pool as possible. If true, which I have done know research into, then this would be wrong and should be addressed. Also if they are modifying lines after lock this should be a very big offense. With that being said when you are looking at these big GPPs regular skilled players will be playing off the wall plays. It's called leverage and it is a tactic you have to use if you want to win these things. Playing Williams when Bell is healthy is a perfectly reasonable GPP strategy. Sure it won't work 90% of the time but the 10% of the time it does you give yourself a chance to win. If you eat chalk there is no way for you to win because too many other players take advantage of that play too. Hopefully we can get a regulatory body into DFS soon to clean up anything that may be going on.
Ok was just winning 3 grand dropped to 2036, I seen guys behind me had a player left so I said I’m going down a little I made it my mission to check the next 400 people only 2 games left nobody could of dropped me lower than 250 bucks. Somehow I’m below 30 bucks now I’m all set
I just recently lost a game that I was winning. It was only two remaining points left and my opponents lineup were all on the bench. One of the players accumulated last minute points!!! How can this happen without the player being in the game?
Quit playing the big tournaments. Stick with the smaller games like head to head or 50/50 with less people. I only play games that I can see everybody rosters.
Michael it’s not really a scam. It’s how Vegas is ran. You can’t compete with people who play thousands a dollars a night. Some competitions you can put up to 150 lineups in a game. These are called sharks. You can’t beat them so stay away from Big competitions. I only play head to head or 3 man league now or sometimes 5 man league. Sharks hate single entry games
@@joshua4023 If you put in that much money into every contest you will miss the mark aka big prizes on 99.9% of the lineup entries you submit. So on a 150 entries at $3 a piece you end up donating almost all your money 💰 accept for a few pushes and $6 winners. I've thrown down many entries in various contests and the best I did was make a third of my money back. It's scam dude.
Marvin Moore playing nuñez is practical. It’s the WS. You know they’re gonna pinch hit. And even then it’s usually only 1 PA that determines your players Fppts. It’s no different than if you get a Leadoff homerun and then nothing for the rest of the game
When I got 4th in a 50k to 1st basketball tournament won 5k. I was first and some guy with 2 of the same lineups came and took first and second in the last 2 minutes.
Bro I believe this with everything in my soul. I'll be winning the whole night and at the end of the contest I'll go from 17th place to out of money placing. It's bullshit.
I dont think they cheat, but if anyone is worried they do then just start a league with your friends and that way you know everyone in the contest and cheating is out of the question
Its just like the stock market. The people with the money, are taking it from the people that don't have a whole lot to play with. They max enter, cuz they can afford to, and use a lineup organizer. So their chances of winning skyrocket compared to someone who enters only 1 or a few lineups. That's how they make it their job. If someone enters 150 lineups, all it takes is 1 of those to win or to cash huge. The other 149 can flop and they'd still win big. So if you play with the idea of only entering 1 or a few lineups, it's basically a lottery at that point. But if you can afford to lose or play say 2 to 300 a night and still be fine, eventually the odds will always be in your favor and you'll hit.
Heres what they do i have figured it out over the years. The DFS player-base has dropped dramatically since they were talking about banning DFS in the USA a few years ago. Theres maybe like 50k people playing during the weekdays and then probably 100-150k on the weekends so with that said there is no way !! they can fill up all these lineups every single day and pay millions in guarantees every night. A few years ago when i was winning a bunch was when DK first came out there were millions of people playing and lineups would get filled instantly almost. So now a days when theres like 1, 2, or 3 games left the contest that's when they throw in lineups with bot accounts behind closed doors. Which is why you will see your lineups start to tank alot of times towards the end of contest. Its rigged pretty badly.. i trust online poker more than DFS to be honest.
Chiplote gives a percentage of his winnings to DK and FD every week. Same with the other sharks. Thats how they operate. They rig the contests so only their insiders win so then DK and FD can get a cut. Even with 200-300 lineups its utterly impossible to win every single week in a contest with 100-200k people that's like winning the lottery every fucking week you have much better odds than other people with that many lineups for sure. But thats less than a 5% chance to win its so rigged.
God damn you're a fuckin idiot. I have won tournaments multiple times, and I am just a regular guy. If you can't win with 200-300 lineups, then you are a complete and utter jackass of a human being. I put in 50-100 lineups and win. I once put in 10 lineups into a NBA tournament and won 6,000 dollars. Why don't you stop smoking crack and come back to reality
I don’t know, it’s hard to say. It’s possible, but I do have a childhood friend that won $100,000 on an NFL lineup he submitted last season. And I know he isn’t an employee or affiliated with them. At the very least, there are average joes winning big 🤷🏻♂️
I have been playing DFS for 4 years and haven't even come close to winning a big payout. Haven't won more than $50 at one time. Closest i came was second place in a winner take all tourney. Wtf am i doing wrong? I've had NFL lineups go off for 200 points, yet i only barely win my money back. It is incredibly frustrating and demoralizing.
you either looking at the wong sites for info, not considering ownership, not picking players that can possibly go off. idk, if you want a change you should subscribe to oneweekseason membership that might turn your game around(for NFL) or sign up for topfantasyplays on twitter
For every line up you make they create duplicates so in case you do hit the cash line you will have to split it or even fall out of cash ranks. Just play any tournament and watch the very end. It's always some pictureless odd named players that always happen to creep up in ranks final minutes and just so happened to pick all the best Players for the night in one line-up no matter how cheap or inconsistent they are scoring. They already get 20% off each dollar inserted per tournament and that's still not enough for the elites. I scored almost 400 fps one night and won only $1.50 on a dollar game. So I stopped playing tournaments that have more than 300 contestants because it's just too many contestants to keep track. I study players and the game of basketball so I can pull rank anywhere under 1000th out of 20+ thousand contestants easily. Out of 1200 players I can't even make the cash line with 11 lineups. Law applies to everyone except the wealthy. I know the feds are definitely involved in this because draftkings even avoid taxes by using loops holes that will make you responsible for any winnings even if you lost money.
On Facebook they would give away weekly millionaire tickets, without fail either the poster above me or after always won, that's when you see the same bots even in Facebook... this is the new Vegas I'd even assume the NFL and commentators are plugged into this... how hard is it to kill 79% 90% of cards if you call in a injury on Julio Jones because the large % picked him... The NFL is almost obvious at calling games these days...
I have won 3 tournaments, one for 6,000, another for 3,000 and another for 500.. I was at the top by myself. Your theory is wrong, why? Because I have won tournaments, that's why
It happened to me two years ago in football I was in first in a lot of 50/50s and a few tournaments under 5000 entries. Monday night a lineup that was no where near me beat me and only had a under priced te but I was so far ahead of everyone in every line up [ Thursday to Monday] classic slate
Its like a slot machine, one yard makes or breaks you and its because someone has inside info on someone starting that you never imagined would take a snap.
Also the players winning their from draftkings members they took 1st and 2nd places 3rd and the rest of places they let it go to the players.. Cause 1st and 2nd are valuable Prize I notice that,i agree with you bro they can change the players on their own systems
Guys. My good friend is now a post tax millionaire playing fantasy. He puts in 1000s of lineups in throughout different events. Someone would have Fitzpatrick and etc etc cuz they hedged their bets basically by playing every possible lineup and outcome. It's quite possible that happens. I've seen it so o I know. People are just babies when someone else has a Better anything.
Last night i was in 10 place for first to 10 win 25 last game almost over i am up 6 point and the next 3 player behind me have no playwr and i said i won when i open drafting king to check i came in 11 place lol
I've won tournaments multiple times in every sport on both draftkings and fanduel. I have zero connections, I'm just a regular guy. I used to be suspicious when I first started, until I started winning. Just like anything, it takes time and knowledge to be successful outside of the occassional dumb luck.
fanduel cheats like hell too....i mean i win sometimes but theres a bunch of bot accounts there that wait to see what everybody else plays before they submit there lineups....somebody please expose these companies for the fuckery
Yes its obvious bots, and or employees are adding or changing lineups. Ive had same thing happen many times in basketball. And, i have entered a lineup 5 minutes before stary, with at least 25% percent not filled, then contest starts and its filled lol. Eventually they will get caught, sued, and we will all be a part of a class action
it can be an old code left over from prior years when contests wouldnt lock after the first game. this allowed you to make adjustments during a contest with the slots you had remaining.
Man, I was in an NFL lineup. My players were scoring but I was dropping in rank? Shit is awful. How all of a sudden I'm 7 pts from 50k top 10 but then I get smacked out of top 5500 spots to not make any money? So now all I'm doing is H2H games
if you get get a bad beat on your lineup...get a lineup with a timestamp on when it was made. The way people (GOVERNMENT) feels about gambling already..if they smell CHEAT ..they will close you down and you will be doing this is another country
And you all have to realize ppl Play 150 lineups in one contest often. Ppl Are gonna hit 🔥 plain and simple. I wouldn’t be skeptical of bots. I used to be but I’m not buying it from a huge company like draftkings. They make a ton on rake in each contest
I had one was winning 5000with one game to go ... a guy with 20 entries a polar bear picture...took down the 5 top paying spots think he won 7500 I ended up breaking even.he had all the spots covered somehow
Right after posting this the night after ...I found a free .25 cent entry...I entered it in a NFL contest with a lot of players and spots to win...sure enough .they pay me off 11.00
Ive been playing on Draft Kings for about 4 years now. I was probably down about 7 or 8k until.... Back in April this year I had 4 entries in a $10 per entry NBA contest(150 max entries). I finished in 1st place out of 46,000+ entries. I won $100,000 for winning that contest, so they didnt cheat that night. I got very very lucky. Maybe Draft Kings forgot to cheat that night. LOL
Total scam. They always add 3 or more bots at the end or close to the end of the contest that will suck up half of the prize money. I wouldn't doubt your big name plays are in on it too. They will just start to magically having a bad game after having a great game all day/night.
I always had my suspicions. I was doing okay in the beginning... but it seems like after I cashed out. Last year, no matter what I do, I can't win anymore. I've been getting a gut feeling that their cheating. I scored 185 on a 50/50 and could not win. I thought has to be fixed. How hard would it be to make algorithms ... No very.
That's probably why I'm not seeing advertising for Draft Kings or FanDuel anymore. They're losing money. A few years ago, I saw a Draft Kings employee in one of the advertisements pretending to be nervous. How do I know? I saw a employee group photo with same guy in the commercial touching his face pretending to be nervous. I guess trying to win something big in daily fantasy is like trying to win the mega millions.
Yeah, there I have my suspicions as well. I've noticed on their fantasy football that the numbers keep flashing long after the game has finished. I'm thinking and if I'm wrong somebody correct me....when you see numbers flashing does that mean opponents are scoring during live games. Why does it continue to flash after games are completed.
Adjustments are made after games end for lost yardage, etc... that's why payouts don't happen immediately. The difference in coming in 1st and 4th or cashing or not cashing is often less than a point.
I've had the same suspicions, until I hit 5th place and one of their big tournaments..... I was convinced..... but then logic hit me like..... let's say it is rigged right? What's stopping you from picking the rigged winning lineup..... I'd say if there cheating then the major sport leagues have to be cheating aswell... I see some of the weirdest things happening in games... and I'm just like .... somebody must of bet slot of money on this game because unexplained things keep happening..... like JR Smith not knowing its crunch time In a NBA finals game..... gtfoh.... like no if he puts that ball back up like anybody would.... somebody in the betting world wins that's not in on the scheme......
JR has plenty of brain farts in small games too. Hell there is a compilation of him doing dumb things. Do you remember him trying to give a friend a handshake during the game and the team scored years ago?
OK..... 100% rigged. On 2-9 I was playing NBA and I was in 1st place very early tied with 1 other person. Right now with 6 minutes in the 4th to go, I am NOW TIED WITH 2 OTHERS. ALL OF US WITH THE EXACT SAME LINEUP !!! TOTAL BULLSHIT.
If all you heard from this was that he called PMR power, then you have a very short attention span. I have seen many tournaments begin short several thousand entries. DK would not be able to make a profit if they do not fill all of the slots. They are only keeping 10%. To cover the unused entries they are definitely putting in their own entries. I have to agree with Jake that they are inserting these lineups during game play by looking at who has performed. I have watched many contests very closely and have seen major changes in standings even when every play that just happened included my players.
This is probably why I can only win when I play single game contests. Put together a million dollar lineup and get smoked by a guy who started Robby Anderson, Hoyer etc.
I won 1st on a Thursday night captain mode game with a 10 dollar entry. First prize was 250k. I was winning first all by myself until it was almost the end of the game and magically there was multiple entries with my same line up and had to split it with multiple people. I ended up only winning 4200 so you do the math with how many people I had to split 250k with. There’s definitely something up with the way the system is ran.
I was playing NBA last year and Goran Dragic was a must play on the slate. I picked him and 1 hour before the game started he was listed as out. I tried to take him out the lineup and somehow an error kept popping up all the way until tip-off and BOOM I could see my lineup but I couldn't change nothing....ripoff!
Last night, the guy who placed 1st in a Draftking tournament, had the backup quarterback from the losing team in his lineup. The starting quarterback got hurt in the 1st quarter. Hmm.....how did he know the starter would get hurt!? Anyway......To make it even worse, the backup quarterback he played, was the 3rd string quarterback. It wasn't even the actual backup. It was the backup, to the backup. And by the way.....the entry's profile has no pic on it. Which could make me believe it is a bot, and lineups get changed during the game. I also checked to see if they had multiple lineups, but couldn't find any.
you are absolutely right man, I was winning an MLB lineup until the 8th inning Eduardo Nunez (Red Sox) pinch hit and hit a 3 run homerun, I looked at the winning lineups and they all had him in even tho he was on the injury report and not a starting player!! He was .01% owned!! I call bullshit
Yup I was in 1st in a mlb contest and bottom of the 8th I looked at lineups under me and above me and nobody had my same lineup and I finally got the hit I needed last second and I check and I’m tied for 1st with two other people
I'm in a Monday-Thursday contest in Draftkings right now. It's Tuesday so the Monday game is over and the Thursday game hasn't started yet. I can still filter the "Power" as you call it just fine.
Not in basketball during the contest. I am wondering why you can in NFL. Especially since they emailed me and said they do not have those capabilities....hummmm
It's because you can change your lineups up to the start of the last game. No one's lineups are complete or lock until the last game starts so therefore they cannot have that information to give you.
right lol. I don't play DK but I play FD and I've won plenty of times.
Hoyer was a Back up QB who wasn't even starting. He came in at the 3rd Quarter when the starter got hurt and went for 200 plus with 3 T.D. The first place guy had Hoyer???? LMFAO, WHO STARTS A BACK UP QB who only got in the game because of injury? This Shit flat out cheats.....
I think this happened last week with Baker Mayfield against the jets.
brian goodie this happened the week before when Tyrod got hurt vs steelers lool
I fuckin remember that... I said the same thing, like who the fuck picking hoyer in the first place when you gamble... what that's like a billion to 1 odds... but it happens every week....
I had Matt Ryann with 47 points after all the games finished. After several minutes when I looked at Matt Ryann score again it changed to 43. They could have made a mistake or be cheating. I've seen players scores change before a while after game is over. I emailed draft kings but got no response.
With stuff like this I think it's because people put in auto generated line ups so they miss stuff like this last week I almost played Baker
After week one I looked at the 120.000 winner. Not only did he start Fitzpatrick. He had the Top scorer at every position within the salary range. He had the best possible line up. I am starting to think they keep you hooked by throwing out a few bucks but don't ever expect to hit a jackpot
David Lindstrom I'm thinking the same thing
you realize the winner will always have the best possible lineup right? that's why he/she won
I have hit jackpots.. The odds are stacked against you, it's GAMBLING. That's what gambling is.. It's not supposed to be easy to gamble and win, it never is
I def believe there's some bs going on but it's the the fantasy pros mostly and the sites tolerate it because they spend so much I've hit 20k,10k,5k so it's possible but not easy
with 250k people making lineups someone is gonna hit all over
You can download the CSV file right at lock though. Because if what you were saying was the case you could just download the CSV file when the LU's lock and then compare it afterwards to see if those players have the same lineup at the end of the night.
How do u do download that file? What is a csv file?
It is a type of excel file. You can see it right in the video at bottom of the standings box. It says export to CSV.
Thanks. Good to know
@@hectorvaltierra7072 There is green text right on the screen at the beginning that says Export Lineups to CSV.
I came in first place in the NBA playoffs last year with a weird lineup, but over 80 other people had the same lineup. I should have had 100K but only received 1.4K
We should start a class action lawsuit
U should. I don't play there but i see similar shit on fan duel.. its not right and it dont make sense.
Agree I'm down for it
@Heywood JM really who has the time to look through hundreds to thousands of lineups with names like crvdex65011 to see if it's fake? If it's duplicates you can easily switch players around unnoticeably.
guys, forget about cheating and just work on improving your own game, that's all you can control. I talk about some of the things I focus on in my NBA videos but it might be able to help nfl dfs players too, particularly the main one on my profile that talks about my process for building a team. good luck!
I'm in!! I want my $5 back!
I have been watching kind of the same thing. I was noticing a person that was always in the same tournaments as me all the time so I started looking at his lineup as soon as the games started to see how close we were in players. The reason I watched him is because he always seem to be winning so I wanted to see his strategy etc... well multiple times before the games would end I would go look at his lineup again and somehow he wouldn’t be in the tourney any more because his team was not in the money. I also noticed the the percentage of players that were in lineups would change during the games and that shouldn’t be able to happen either. I sent draftkings a email to please explain and never heard back. Maybe this is something that needs to be investigated by the authorities ?
He prolly playing 150 lines bro some niggas got a bank roll for it every night
What contest? How many max entries was it?
Single entry is all I play !
Do you have screenshots or video? I'd love to see it.
Dam
THE SAD THING ABOUT RICH PEOPLE IS THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER BECAUSE OF ALL THE MONEY THEY OWE US.
only play the 50/50's myself. i feel the tourney's and other big competitions just never work out and have my suspicions as well.
what are 50 50s
Last night some random player had Marcus Mariotta in the lineup as the captain because he somehow knew Carr would get injured in the 2nd quarter lol
Lol Bruh. They Got Me Tonight, I Caught They Cheating Ass
It’s not “power” it’s PMR which means “ player minutes remaining”
Yes, I know. I was new at the time. player minutes, or power..... either way, it is fishy.
Lol
It is weird tho.
Thank you for clarifying the abbreviation.
Not the point.. You sound like the grammar police after someone makes a valid argument.
I've realized this last night. I bet on the bears Redskins game. The top players had a third string wr as their captain. Who starts a third string wr when he's been cold all year... last night he just happened to have 3 td.. We should start a lawsuit
I had $81.60 after my last round Robin I put in right before the 2nd fight during the ufc event last night, all of a sudden 10 min later I had $82.26...Couldnt figure out how it went from 81.60 to 82.26.. At the end of the night all my round Robbins lost except 1 and I won 66 cents from it. It's like they knew what the outcomes were gonna be and accidentally payed me early? I didnt cash anything out early either.. They woulda had to know the main event was gonna be cancelled/voided also cause one of the legs on all the parlays was Krylov.
I put in multiple lineups probably like everybody else, why the hell am I always down by 50 or more points within the first quarter and never catch up.
Because you are playing against thousands of people.. The odds are stacked against you to win, it's not easy to win
This happens to me all of the time lol. You literally have to have the best line up to win ANYTHING. And even then you may not win money because someone behind you will magically pass you. I like playing draft kings but its literally like playing the lottery its one big ass gamble.
Honestly i see a lot of people that only put like 3 tops and they win money. I can put in 20 the max and not win a damn cent. And most of the time i get at least 200 points in the nfl which isnt the best but its a good ratio to hopefully one day win something decent. I think my problem is the games im playing i need to find some that give you the best chance to win something. But have yet to find that kind of tournament
You just have to get lucky point blank
I been playing for 3 years now.. very regular guy. I play maybe 10 bucks max in a day and (knock on wood) I win fairly often ..never nothing in the realm of a million dollars or no shit. But over a thousand at least 30 times .. I won 1500 2 days ago playing 5 bucks
This is why I never play anymore...yes, I have my suspicions too.
My last 30 dollars in my account I played today if I win Il cash out and never play again
I entered a double up with top 10 paying out. I noticed that 12 entries with different user names had the exact same lineup. I noticed this happen before years ago in a nascar contest. Now, I make sure I enter a contest with a huge number of entries so this won't happen to me again.
That’s why I play 80-90% of my games as $1 head to heads lol
I'm building a program that will track each user's lineup continuously from start to finish of a contest.
Kenny Fogal please keep us informed on your findings
There’s a thing called fantasy cruncher that already does that. Stop being a sore loser
@@jamesmartini4332 no need to explain things to these fish sir. Let em keep crying
How's that build coming 2 years later? You crack the "rigged" case
I only came in 2nd place once on DFK and won $300.00 off a 50 cent bet. 🏆 But after that, I never one a big sum of money again and I've been playing for 4 years! I know I am good at picking players vs teams and cannot understand why I can't win a dime sometimes. I recognized how the NBA and NFL control players in games to limit how much fantasy points they get. I even noticed how DFK has poor updates and gives fantasy players misinformation about certain teams and players to throw off lineups. The NFL and NBA are the real sharks here. They have partial ownership in all the major sports betting platforms. They're taking fans money! The sharks swimming in those giant fish bowls above the stadium are the only ones winning!
Nevermind that so much. I thought about using my cellphone to tape people's lineups as the night progressed, and then compare the winning rosters with what they started with. Like you said, I think they are subbing in top players on the night, figuring nobody will remember who had who on their team + did you notice that say between periods of a hockey game, points are still changing, even though the games are on break smh
I will pay someone to screen shot every team on the slate at the beginning of a slate. He is onto something here.
If you look in the contest details , you can see that in some games you can enter multiple times. Take advantage of different options
I went to bed and won 12 thousand on nba . When I woke up it changed and tied with 40 people and made like 350 dollars. How does that happen....
You may have not had any remaining players left in one of the later games. Therefore the people that had players in the late games passed you up. Happens all the time. also at the end of all games there are always stat adjustments correcting any errors or missed points. That usually wont throw you down too far though. Its usually the late games
@@CL-nc8rr I would of been checking to see who had a chance yet ya know. I won 4k on baseball one night. I was in 3rd place and then one of the last batters up at last game hit a walk off homer and none of the 2 people in front of me had him. I knew then I won top prize.
@@Jbuss0679 well that does suck if it is true. I guess I just can't believe it until I see it.
That happens all the time. They check errors after games. I have been 4th and hours after the contest I have been 2nd. It's not a conspiracy...
Same thing happened to me
If you click "Export Lineups to CSV", which is available anytime after a contest begins (I believe, although I mostly play golf where lineups lock at one set time), export the lineups to excel at the beginning of the contest and end of the contest and cross reference them.
And yall scrolling right past this Gem of Knowledge!
Your opponents remaining players are not locked until that game starts. So I could have a lineup with 4 players playing the one o'clock game and not even chose players for the 4 o'clock game until just before kickoff. Until players are locked, they are hidden from their competitors. Therefore, sorting of a hidden field will give inaccurate results.
There may be some cheating going on in DFS. However, your argument is weak and doesn't prove anything.
Johnnie Pettiford ua-cam.com/video/2hvVuaPbF-I/v-deo.html
Bruh my shit is saying they having difficulties with the website when I click Live but when I check my Contest on DK it shows the points I have. Definitely some funny business going as I speak.
I've won $3K twice in the past 3 weeks on DK in NBA. The first time I had the most PMR and knew I had a good shot. Took 1st in a GPP with 1500 entries. Didn't get overtaken by bots. I also won a satellite for the $888 in a 68 entry field full of sharks/bots. I took that and finished 49th out of 1200 for $3K in the actual GPP. I was in 10th in a qualifier for the NFL FFWC three weeks ago with by far the most players remaining and it still didn't work out, finished 22nd. I get what you're saying. It's possible, but it hasn't stopped me from taking down GPP's.
This sounds like a bot
if you can get that line up were they cant beat you they usually tie with you. i only took down college basketball 3 times first place.
Shit help me this season plz
Hey brother please help me win too, I'll give you half, it's a win win for both of us
I have been playing dfs for 5 years. I hate how high the rake is but I also hate people crying “rigged” with no actual evidence.
I have a PhD in statistics. I have complicated algorithms that run projections and my selection of gpp lineups. I do not win every week but I am a winning football and nba player. My biggest score was 25,000 in football.
The things this guy is talking about aren’t even accurate. I’ve won at the last minute and lost at the last minute. It’s frustrating but it’s not evidence of cheating.
Often times people who aren’t very good at this want to believe that their gut feelings can outperform those of us with sophisticated skill sets. It’s just not true. Everyone can get lucky but only a very very small few can beat the game in the long run.
Update: Did Fanduel on thurs. night football Rams vs Vikings. Had a pretty decent lineup going and I’d notice sometimes when I keep gaining points towards the winning cap I’d suddenly go down even after gaining, and I never lose anything from a player. It’s pissing me off
Saav even plays like sacks can count towards another players defense if they have that teams defense drafted. Its actually simple
You are correct. I see it too. Winner 🏆 pop up out of nowhere.
This is called when someone else has a player you dont, and they score points
Stephen Wilson Holy shit you do not get it lol. Those ppl literally had just the same players as me🤣😂
If you really suspected this, you could download the csv file at the beginning of the contest and at the end of it. Compare for discrepancies. Even with late swap, the salaries still have to add up, so bounce any changes off the salary sheet & you’ll have your answer.
How do you do that on fan duel? Or is it obvious if I go look at it. I only use my phone app so maybe it's not on there.
Tim Chapin you’ll probably have to use the desktop version, but I can’t confirm that FD will provide a csv of the entries since I don’t play there. I do know they have a salary sheet, but I don’t know about the contests themselves.
@@bigwilly43729 thanks. I'll let you know next week. Or after tomorrow night to see if I could pull it off.
Did it work
I’ve won multiple contests on DraftKings, but I’ve always suspected they are cheating.....
Sometimes I feel that way. But if in contest that allows 250,000 plus to enter. Your chances are slim unless you can afford multiple entries. Also, if pick a player that starts game at 4 PM and contest starts at 1 PM you can change player before it starts. Draftkings allow that but think Fanduel everything is a lock. play contest for a single game then see if changes being made within game.
when I first started playing i was suppose to win top prize because no body was even close to my lineup in NBA tier and and somehow this lineup came out of nowhere and went 20 points ahead of me i still won a couple hundred but thanks for the video. They need to have a site with all the winners holding a check with a picture to prove people can win. And the game was also the last one of the night.
I agree I honestly never thought of that they should make that law have the winner of the tournament to take a picture with the check especially the big ones I think that will come a lot of people fears about cheating going on on theses sites great point brandon tedder.
Mr. Tedder, what video are you talking about, Please school me.
Jake...I see that as well. It seems like they have a delay in algorythm which picks the highest point total of each producing players in their line up. Every time near the end of the games, one may be clearly in the lead on the leader board,.. then out of nowhere comes someone else who is not even seen near the point total of the leader board.
Naa I could of said the same thing yesterday...... but no some of these games just dont go the way you'd expect. For example last night I hit a 333. And I have players from a team that went into overtime.... and a game that was a blow out..... it helped me and hurt me..... and I always look to see who can catch me and it just so happened the guy I lost too had players from the same games.... he just anticipated a blow out... and I didn't.... but the guy I was afraid of losing too the guy who I thought would beat me got beat too..... so well just never know.... but I will say I've won fair and square and I ain't nobody special it's not easy..... you have too put in hours of hours of work...... I know a lot of people do this for fun... but its alot of us who do a ton of research and still pick one wrong player and yes you'll lose if you make one mistake.... but I dont just chalk it up to it's all rigged .... even if its rigged what happens when you have the same lineup and the rigged winner..... you sti win. But for example..... last night black griffen scored like 85 fantasy points...... if you didn't have I'm in your line up.... you didn't even come close to winning no matter who you had.... and he was only like 19% owned...... it bees like that sometimes...... you just have to have the most information so you can make the best available decision's....... nothing is guaranteed....... I use to think all the slots on online gambling sites were fake too.... until I hit for like 5 grand on a $5 spin..... hey it he's like that sometimes...... just remember the gambling isn't the sin...... Greed is.....
@@lazajuansmusick Paragraphs help.
I thought that also. I won 10,000 on Golf. Didn't know anything about golf. Picked two underdogs in my lineup and they came in 1st and 2nd. On a $33 bet. So I said yet you can win.
@@Nagz45 man I could doing a thousand things sometimes when I'm typing on here. I ain't giving a fuck about no paragraphs.
I believe this is legit... During the Milwaukee vs. Dodgers the starter Wiley pitched one inning but the first place guy had woodruff on his ticket who wasn't even due to start... I'm like wtf
Bro that’s different, it was playoffs so it’s obvious the starters are not gunna go for long and relievers will get in
@@thecardplug9625 not after one batter
Miley
I play relievers all the time.
I have plenty of screen recordings of live bets and they just kicked me out of the entire app resulting into big money loses and they will say oh we see you be kicked we will get Back to you. Even promotion they don’t follow through either. A deposit in and was supposed to receive my 20% bonus 2 different times. I contact them and I never get through lmao.
DraftKings is not legit. I just sent an email saying I know that something is up because I know that all those players or bots can’t draft that well every tournament. I am not even winning my money back in these tournaments. I threw up 340 points in a nba tourney and didn’t even profit. Not only do they restrict you from filtering the lineups but if you looked at the owned percentage of a particular player that disappears throughout the tournament because that number is going to fluctuate since they are adding new lineups. It’s complete bull plus they just locked my account and will not respond to me. They need to put out of business because they are advertised as a game of skill well creating lineups and stealing people’s money isn’t a skill based game it’s fraud
They sent me an email saying they are the Fraud Team. So they know they are bad people. Maybe they will change but i doubt it. Bad means stupid. They can have all the money in the world but there are plenty of cops and hitmen after those idiots.
You can download the entire entry list at the beginning of the tournament. You're losing because you're playing multi every gpp's. It's essentially a lotto ticket.
How to download the entire list at the beginning of the tournament? we can only download our own entries only, right?
What I can’t figure out is how are the scores for single entry contests just as high as those for multiple entry contests if cheating is not going on? Scores should be lower for these contests but they aren’t. NBA contests for example: the winner is gonna have a couple of studs and a couple of above average guys and then a couple of random low scoring guys that have an amazing game. I see how that can happen in a contest with 120 entries per player or 50 or whatever. But in a 20,000 player single entry contest how are there 300-400 people that have chosen these crazy lineups? 300 people scoring 340 or above in single entry contest??? No way.
so the winning scores are usually just as high, but the difference is, for example if you come in 75th place in a mass multi entry gpp it will be top 5 in the single entries. like high winning scores but not as many super high scores. plus those single entry teams are usually the proffessional or semi-pros optimal team. So its alot of great players best team if that makes sense at all.
Great point!!
Greg it dosnt mattet the amount of multiple entries there is the same amount of total teams .its simple math dude
I agree. I think there is a good amount of cheating that goes on. Last year I entered 600 lineups into 4 gpps during the conference championship for NFL. There was 2 contests and I was running dual accounts (I know... Cheating). Anyway, it's a 2 game slate. How the fuck did none of my lineups even make it near the top 10. You can't say "oh do your research" Bitch 600 lineups for 2 games I think I pretty much covered most possibilities. Every lineup different btw
Also notice how there's a guaranteed prize pool and it needs a hundred thousand more people to make the contest full with 20 minutes left. When the contest starts almost everytime contest is full.
Isn't this because it is late swap? You don't know remaining minutes in late swap because it can be changed until the last game starts.
You can't filter pmr before all games start because before the game starts you can still change the players in your lineup.
A few years ago a lot of DK employees were fired for leaking out player ownership BEFORE the contests went live
Have anybody ever notice them editing the points after the game has been over for awhile. Ill be in some money but barely sometimes. All of the sudden some of my players points would flash red cause they have lost points way after the game is over. But then first place players would go up a little at the end. Crazy! If the game is over you shouldn't be able to change around points.
Its a stat correction but i had the same problem. I realized "stat correction" never pushed me up in rankings only down. I made multiple complaints about them regenerating lineups mid game and post game to push average players down the ranks. Suddenly I began winning 1st place and multiple top 5 finishes when i threatened an investigation. Seems suspicious to me. Draftkings is trash. Im 100% convinced employees hack and regenerate lineups after lock.
A couple things are going on here. The first claim which could be legitimate is DK and FD are putting their own lines I'm so that they get to keep as much of the prize pool as possible. If true, which I have done know research into, then this would be wrong and should be addressed. Also if they are modifying lines after lock this should be a very big offense.
With that being said when you are looking at these big GPPs regular skilled players will be playing off the wall plays. It's called leverage and it is a tactic you have to use if you want to win these things. Playing Williams when Bell is healthy is a perfectly reasonable GPP strategy. Sure it won't work 90% of the time but the 10% of the time it does you give yourself a chance to win. If you eat chalk there is no way for you to win because too many other players take advantage of that play too. Hopefully we can get a regulatory body into DFS soon to clean up anything that may be going on.
was there not a scandel similar to this on smallworld which eventually became the sporting news n still owes me money!
Ok was just winning 3 grand dropped to 2036, I seen guys behind me had a player left so I said I’m going down a little I made it my mission to check the next 400 people only 2 games left nobody could of dropped me lower than 250 bucks. Somehow I’m below 30 bucks now I’m all set
You understand people actually do this for a living right? They play DFS full time.
Adam Dowell What does that mean. Most of us do
@@Excuse_The_Hebrew no....you dont.
Anaxagoran yes
Most people do not do this for their full time jobs....smh
Adam Dowell I’m not you and you not me
I just recently lost a game that I was winning. It was only two remaining points left and my opponents lineup were all on the bench. One of the players accumulated last minute points!!! How can this happen without the player being in the game?
Quit playing the big tournaments. Stick with the smaller games like head to head or 50/50 with less people. I only play games that I can see everybody rosters.
Michael it’s not really a scam. It’s how Vegas is ran. You can’t compete with people who play thousands a dollars a night. Some competitions you can put up to 150 lineups in a game. These are called sharks. You can’t beat them so stay away from Big competitions. I only play head to head or 3 man league now or sometimes 5 man league. Sharks hate single entry games
@@joshua4023 If you put in that much money into every contest you will miss the mark aka big prizes on 99.9% of the lineup entries you submit. So on a 150 entries at $3 a piece you end up donating almost all your money 💰 accept for a few pushes and $6 winners.
I've thrown down many entries in various contests and the best I did was make a third of my money back. It's scam dude.
They won't let me see other rosters until the games start
@@craigrich1349 that's so you and others don't cheat...
I have been watching this for the last 2 years and also im 100% sure you are absolutely correct.
A guy won a baseball tournament last night when Eduardo Nunez came off the bench to hit three-run dinger. Imagine that!
Marvin Moore playing nuñez is practical. It’s the WS. You know they’re gonna pinch hit. And even then it’s usually only 1 PA that determines your players Fppts. It’s no different than if you get a Leadoff homerun and then nothing for the rest of the game
It was a one game slate. You have to look for low owned guys.
When I got 4th in a 50k to 1st basketball tournament won 5k. I was first and some guy with 2 of the same lineups came and took first and second in the last 2 minutes.
Bro I believe this with everything in my soul. I'll be winning the whole night and at the end of the contest I'll go from 17th place to out of money placing. It's bullshit.
even though I won $4500 once, I think they do have inside ppl working in those contests
will864sya I caught pokerstars doing it like ten years ago after I lost 3,000. Crazy world
I dont think they cheat, but if anyone is worried they do then just start a league with your friends and that way you know everyone in the contest and cheating is out of the question
or you can even create your own contest!
BTW do you really think DK needs to cheat? They do big, big #'s everyday!
Is this because of late swap???
Its just like the stock market. The people with the money, are taking it from the people that don't have a whole lot to play with. They max enter, cuz they can afford to, and use a lineup organizer. So their chances of winning skyrocket compared to someone who enters only 1 or a few lineups. That's how they make it their job. If someone enters 150 lineups, all it takes is 1 of those to win or to cash huge. The other 149 can flop and they'd still win big. So if you play with the idea of only entering 1 or a few lineups, it's basically a lottery at that point. But if you can afford to lose or play say 2 to 300 a night and still be fine, eventually the odds will always be in your favor and you'll hit.
Heres what they do i have figured it out over the years. The DFS player-base has dropped dramatically since they were talking about banning DFS in the USA a few years ago. Theres maybe like 50k people playing during the weekdays and then probably 100-150k on the weekends so with that said there is no way !! they can fill up all these lineups every single day and pay millions in guarantees every night. A few years ago when i was winning a bunch was when DK first came out there were millions of people playing and lineups would get filled instantly almost. So now a days when theres like 1, 2, or 3 games left the contest that's when they throw in lineups with bot accounts behind closed doors. Which is why you will see your lineups start to tank alot of times towards the end of contest. Its rigged pretty badly.. i trust online poker more than DFS to be honest.
Chiplote gives a percentage of his winnings to DK and FD every week. Same with the other sharks. Thats how they operate. They rig the contests so only their insiders win so then DK and FD can get a cut. Even with 200-300 lineups its utterly impossible to win every single week in a contest with 100-200k people that's like winning the lottery every fucking week you have much better odds than other people with that many lineups for sure. But thats less than a 5% chance to win its so rigged.
God damn you're a fuckin idiot. I have won tournaments multiple times, and I am just a regular guy. If you can't win with 200-300 lineups, then you are a complete and utter jackass of a human being. I put in 50-100 lineups and win. I once put in 10 lineups into a NBA tournament and won 6,000 dollars. Why don't you stop smoking crack and come back to reality
Rick Grimes I could use help making a lineup to make a little money I need some insight because I only usually do 1 lineup
I don’t know, it’s hard to say. It’s possible, but I do have a childhood friend that won $100,000 on an NFL lineup he submitted last season. And I know he isn’t an employee or affiliated with them. At the very least, there are average joes winning big 🤷🏻♂️
And honestly, he should have won the 1 Million dollar first prize, he cane in third with a wide receiver finishing with only 6 points!
I have been playing DFS for 4 years and haven't even come close to winning a big payout. Haven't won more than $50 at one time. Closest i came was second place in a winner take all tourney. Wtf am i doing wrong? I've had NFL lineups go off for 200 points, yet i only barely win my money back. It is incredibly frustrating and demoralizing.
maybe you just suck lol
Lol
you either looking at the wong sites for info, not considering ownership, not picking players that can possibly go off. idk, if you want a change you should subscribe to oneweekseason membership that might turn your game around(for NFL) or sign up for topfantasyplays on twitter
Stop playing in contests with thousands of people. Play single entry
I've been playing for over 4 years and have accumulated over 100k. When I was 18 my biggest win was winning nba slam
For every line up you make they create duplicates so in case you do hit the cash line you will have to split it or even fall out of cash ranks. Just play any tournament and watch the very end. It's always some pictureless odd named players that always happen to creep up in ranks final minutes and just so happened to pick all the best Players for the night in one line-up no matter how cheap or inconsistent they are scoring. They already get 20% off each dollar inserted per tournament and that's still not enough for the elites. I scored almost 400 fps one night and won only $1.50 on a dollar game. So I stopped playing tournaments that have more than 300 contestants because it's just too many contestants to keep track. I study players and the game of basketball so I can pull rank anywhere under 1000th out of 20+ thousand contestants easily. Out of 1200 players I can't even make the cash line with 11 lineups. Law applies to everyone except the wealthy. I know the feds are definitely involved in this because draftkings even avoid taxes by using loops holes that will make you responsible for any winnings even if you lost money.
I see that as well.
On Facebook they would give away weekly millionaire tickets, without fail either the poster above me or after always won, that's when you see the same bots even in Facebook... this is the new Vegas I'd even assume the NFL and commentators are plugged into this... how hard is it to kill 79% 90% of cards if you call in a injury on Julio Jones because the large % picked him...
The NFL is almost obvious at calling games these days...
I have won 3 tournaments, one for 6,000, another for 3,000 and another for 500.. I was at the top by myself. Your theory is wrong, why? Because I have won tournaments, that's why
Adeoye Yilu he’s lying.
Wrong.
It happened to me two years ago in football I was in first in a lot of 50/50s and a few tournaments under 5000 entries. Monday night a lineup that was no where near me beat me and only had a under priced te but I was so far ahead of everyone in every line up [ Thursday to Monday] classic slate
Its like a slot machine, one yard makes or breaks you and its because someone has inside info on someone starting that you never imagined would take a snap.
Also the players winning their from draftkings members they took 1st and 2nd places 3rd and the rest of places they let it go to the players.. Cause 1st and 2nd are valuable Prize I notice that,i agree with you bro they can change the players on their own systems
I play FanDuel and you can see everybody’s full lineup so it can easily be done
This is Ultimate Bet poker scandal all over again if true. So how do you prove this? Wait for a disgruntled employee to spill the beans?
Build a program to track each user's lineup from start to finish. Then analyse for any changes in the data(Or build the program to do that as well).
@Heywood JM By who? Any data to back that claim up?
Guys. My good friend is now a post tax millionaire playing fantasy. He puts in 1000s of lineups in throughout different events. Someone would have Fitzpatrick and etc etc cuz they hedged their bets basically by playing every possible lineup and outcome. It's quite possible that happens. I've seen it so o I know. People are just babies when someone else has a Better anything.
I won 3,000 one time on a NBA game slate
You can win, yes but they do cheat
I agree they do cheat, but you can still win.
Who said you couldn't win..... Some of you people make me laugh
How?!?!?!?!?!?! Pure luck????
@Gamer1Wolf what was the winning lineup?
everything nowadays is rigged
TheRealJimmytheGreek Greek yeah it is
TheRealJimmytheGreek Greek it’s called greed
Last night i was in 10 place for first to 10 win 25 last game almost over i am up 6 point and the next 3 player behind me have no playwr and i said i won when i open drafting king to check i came in 11 place lol
I've won tournaments multiple times in every sport on both draftkings and fanduel. I have zero connections, I'm just a regular guy. I used to be suspicious when I first started, until I started winning. Just like anything, it takes time and knowledge to be successful outside of the occassional dumb luck.
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fanduel cheats like hell too....i mean i win sometimes but theres a bunch of bot accounts there that wait to see what everybody else plays before they submit there lineups....somebody please expose these companies for the fuckery
Yes its obvious bots, and or employees are adding or changing lineups. Ive had same thing happen many times in basketball. And, i have entered a lineup 5 minutes before stary, with at least 25% percent not filled, then contest starts and its filled lol. Eventually they will get caught, sued, and we will all be a part of a class action
it can be an old code left over from prior years when contests wouldnt lock after the first game. this allowed you to make adjustments during a contest with the slots you had remaining.
I have the same theory. And try not to submit your team until lock??
Man, I was in an NFL lineup. My players were scoring but I was dropping in rank? Shit is awful. How all of a sudden I'm 7 pts from 50k top 10 but then I get smacked out of top 5500 spots to not make any money? So now all I'm doing is H2H games
100% RIGGED ..... JUST PLAY HEAD TO HEAD or TOP 10/20
if you get get a bad beat on your lineup...get a lineup with a timestamp on when it was made. The way people (GOVERNMENT) feels about gambling already..if they smell CHEAT ..they will close you down and you will be doing this is another country
Remember DK and FD is paying New Jersey a cut!
You know nada. The government is legit and protecting the rights of the sheeple.. That's a good one 😂
And you all have to realize ppl
Play 150 lineups in one contest often. Ppl
Are gonna hit 🔥 plain and simple. I wouldn’t be skeptical of bots. I used to be but I’m not buying it from a huge company like draftkings. They make a ton on rake in each contest
I had one was winning 5000with one game to go ...
a guy with 20 entries a polar bear picture...took down the 5 top paying spots think he won 7500 I ended up breaking even.he had all the spots covered somehow
Right after posting this the night after ...I found a free .25 cent entry...I entered it in a NFL contest with a lot of players and spots to win...sure enough .they pay me off 11.00
Ive been playing on Draft Kings for about 4 years now. I was probably down about 7 or 8k until.... Back in April this year I had 4 entries in a $10 per entry NBA contest(150 max entries). I finished in 1st place out of 46,000+ entries. I won $100,000 for winning that contest, so they didnt cheat that night. I got very very lucky. Maybe Draft Kings forgot to cheat that night. LOL
Total scam. They always add 3 or more bots at the end or close to the end of the contest that will suck up half of the prize money. I wouldn't doubt your big name plays are in on it too. They will just start to magically having a bad game after having a great game all day/night.
I always had my suspicions. I was doing okay in the beginning... but it seems like after I cashed out. Last year, no matter what I do, I can't win anymore. I've been getting a gut feeling that their cheating. I scored 185 on a 50/50 and could not win. I thought has to be fixed. How hard would it be to make algorithms ... No very.
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."... WOPR, 'War Games' 1983
So your telling me theres a chance
That's probably why I'm not seeing advertising for Draft Kings or FanDuel anymore. They're losing money. A few years ago, I saw a Draft Kings employee in one of the advertisements pretending to be nervous. How do I know? I saw a employee group photo with same guy in the commercial touching his face pretending to be nervous. I guess trying to win something big in daily fantasy is like trying to win the mega millions.
Yeah, there I have my suspicions as well. I've noticed on their fantasy football that the numbers keep flashing long after the game has finished. I'm thinking and if I'm wrong somebody correct me....when you see numbers flashing does that mean opponents are scoring during live games. Why does it continue to flash after games are completed.
Adjustments are made after games end for lost yardage, etc... that's why payouts don't happen immediately. The difference in coming in 1st and 4th or cashing or not cashing is often less than a point.
I've had the same suspicions, until I hit 5th place and one of their big tournaments..... I was convinced..... but then logic hit me like..... let's say it is rigged right? What's stopping you from picking the rigged winning lineup..... I'd say if there cheating then the major sport leagues have to be cheating aswell... I see some of the weirdest things happening in games... and I'm just like .... somebody must of bet slot of money on this game because unexplained things keep happening..... like JR Smith not knowing its crunch time In a NBA finals game..... gtfoh.... like no if he puts that ball back up like anybody would.... somebody in the betting world wins that's not in on the scheme......
JR has plenty of brain farts in small games too. Hell there is a compilation of him doing dumb things. Do you remember him trying to give a friend a handshake during the game and the team scored years ago?
Maybe they don't allow the PMR filter because people are allowed to change the lineups up until the start of the match?
OK..... 100% rigged. On 2-9 I was playing NBA and I was in 1st place very early tied with 1 other person. Right now with 6 minutes in the 4th to go, I am NOW TIED WITH 2 OTHERS. ALL OF US WITH THE EXACT SAME LINEUP !!! TOTAL BULLSHIT.
hypothetically speaking those line-ups shouldve been right with you the entire time
If all you heard from this was that he called PMR power, then you have a very short attention span.
I have seen many tournaments begin short several thousand entries. DK would not be able to make a profit if they do not fill all of the slots. They are only keeping 10%. To cover the unused entries they are definitely putting in their own entries.
I have to agree with Jake that they are inserting these lineups during game play by looking at who has performed. I have watched many contests very closely and have seen major changes in standings even when every play that just happened included my players.
I think your right, i play a golf contest and was amazed of the top 100 winners selections.
u lost me at “power” 💀💀💀
Scott Cooper lol rookie mistake he made
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This is probably why I can only win when I play single game contests. Put together a million dollar lineup and get smoked by a guy who started Robby Anderson, Hoyer etc.
Because if you catch a hot cheap QB...its a long shot but allows way more options in your lineup..
I agree, I've observed multiple times in GPPs shady things occurring. Its super frustrating. Do you think FD has the same?
I won 1st on a Thursday night captain mode game with a 10 dollar entry. First prize was 250k. I was winning first all by myself until it was almost the end of the game and magically there was multiple entries with my same line up and had to split it with multiple people. I ended up only winning 4200 so you do the math with how many people I had to split 250k with. There’s definitely something up with the way the system is ran.
I was playing NBA last year and Goran Dragic was a must play on the slate. I picked him and 1 hour before the game started he was listed as out. I tried to take him out the lineup and somehow an error kept popping up all the way until tip-off and BOOM I could see my lineup but I couldn't change nothing....ripoff!
Email them and they will refund you in some way. It happens sometimes that their site is crashed somewhat. I do this for living and never an issue.
you can download the lineup after the contest starts and compare it to the winning lineup then you will know
Make sure you screen record and screen shot. Trust me a suit is coming soon I promise you and u may be getting paid as well
Last night, the guy who placed 1st in a Draftking tournament, had the backup quarterback from the losing team in his lineup. The starting quarterback got hurt in the 1st quarter. Hmm.....how did he know the starter would get hurt!? Anyway......To make it even worse, the backup quarterback he played, was the 3rd string quarterback. It wasn't even the actual backup. It was the backup, to the backup. And by the way.....the entry's profile has no pic on it. Which could make me believe it is a bot, and lineups get changed during the game. I also checked to see if they had multiple lineups, but couldn't find any.
you are absolutely right man, I was winning an MLB lineup until the 8th inning Eduardo Nunez (Red Sox) pinch hit and hit a 3 run homerun, I looked at the winning lineups and they all had him in even tho he was on the injury report and not a starting player!! He was .01% owned!! I call bullshit
Yup I was in 1st in a mlb contest and bottom of the 8th I looked at lineups under me and above me and nobody had my same lineup and I finally got the hit I needed last second and I check and I’m tied for 1st with two other people
I'm in a Monday-Thursday contest in Draftkings right now. It's Tuesday so the Monday game is over and the Thursday game hasn't started yet. I can still filter the "Power" as you call it just fine.
Not in basketball during the contest. I am wondering why you can in NFL. Especially since they emailed me and said they do not have those capabilities....hummmm