1) Correction: I just saw the Gamers Nexus video about there not actually being liquid metal on the CPU. So the bit where I say that apparently it has on it is incorrect. 2) Check out your brand new SmartDesk with a 5% discount (21DAWID5) at: rb.gy/b4oa5g 3) I forgot to mention why the Top Top is a lier. Basically none of the sexy Bios features that I showed in its video did anything. I spent a couple days trying to get it to apply any of those settings to no avail. 😅
@@aiyaz379 "The Crow" is a movie starring Brandon Lee. From Wikipedia: "1994 The Crow Eric Draven Shot and killed as a result of negligence during filming. Special effects and a stand-in were used to complete Lee's remaining scenes. Released posthumously."
I got a gaming laptop on Facebook marketplace with a gtx 1650 that was selling for only $300 because it had a broken screen. That's my own mini gaming pc. Hooked it up to a monitor and never thought about that broken screen again.
Nearly lost my marbles when Dawid said "I don't think becoming intimately acquainted with your devices mortality before powering it up for the first time makes for a good user experience."
Easily The Verge's PC build because it was misleading with bad advice and didn't even run the RAM in dual channel mode. It also nearly ruined the presenter's life because he was given a ridiculous deadline to do the video in with almost no information, so sure he looked inept, but it was because of extremely poor editorial control and management. LinusTechTips actually did a co-op "re"-build with him and they talked about how much of a mess it was behind-the-scenes.
I watch a lot of tech channels, and have for a while. All the usuals, plus some retro, and some others. I think it's safe to say this is my all around favorite. And it's purely because of Dawids way of describing things. And Thiddy.
Someone find me a video where he DOESN'T manage to say "Thiddy". ... Also, no one tell him that Canada is still technically part of America. The north one to be exact.
they are laptops without screens... and keyboards and touchpads. Thermals are usually a bit better than laptops. I still like them, though. Wish I could buy one.
Wait, Dawid got a computer with dual channel RAM! Nothing in this Universe makes any sense to me anymore… That was the opposite result to what I was expecting. Way to go, TopTop.
It's intended differently. It has a CPU mostly found in $1500-2500 laptops but does not have the dGPU, screen or battery. It has tons more ports than a laptop, room for three internal SSDs, and a hardwired 2.5GbE networking. It's more for workstation, media PC and/or home server usage. It's definitely not for everyone. Also right now, there's a lot riding on whether they got the manufacturing sorted out or will shipped product have the wrong thermal paste like the prototypes do.
I love the small form factor but both are bad value since a laptop with an 1650 is around $700 too. Considering that the toptop is basically a laptop motherboard put into a mini pc case.
for 800 USD I've got a 9750H and a 1660Ti. So yea, you're about right. Thankfully that ALSO came with a 144hz display on it. Keyboard was disappointing though since the key rollover is 2 keys...so playing anything requiring WASD movement was unfortunate, so you might find yourself dropping like 50 dollars on an external keyboard with mine.
@@entryofemotion12 Or you can go buy a Salvation Army PC with a 4 or 5yr old CPU for $100 then buy a 6700xt and drop it in for INSANE performance for about $800 total (and thats scalper priced)
This was an amazingly timely video. I had completely forgotten about the Top Ton, and preordered an HX90 on the 1st, when their ship date still said mid-September. Well, after checking this video I checked for updates on the HX90... Now the ship dates are available in detail and my order won't ship until the end of October. So for $8 more than the HX90 config I preordered, I got the i9 variant (I value the cores a bit), and their sure to be slow RAM that I can swap out at my leisure.
Incidentally, it's supposed to be WAY easier to get the board out. Minisforum's ram/ssd installation video shows that they suggest pushing against the lobes of the drive tray while pulling slightly on the case plastic. It just popped right out.
I got the toptop PC with i7 after watching this video. Absolutely love it. I thought the case would look tacky but it's actually not too bad. Price is very reasonable and the portability/space saving is insane.
When I think of how much I paid for my Canyon Lake NUC w/ an I7-8705G & Vega 6 graphics (over $2000 CDN including 16GB memory and 1TB SSD), and I see prices in the $900 - $1000 range for these two units, I really want to cry. Now, I DID buy it as a HTPC, not a gaming PC, so I am still happy with the purchase (and it does OK playing Portal at 1080p), but in just over 2 years mini PC's have certainly improved AND plummeted in price. But mine DOES have programmable skull lighting on the case, so there's that. (of course I shut it off immediately after my intial "oooh")
I believe the newest NUC is amazing in its power and capabilites. It can take a 2 slot desktop graphics card and everything. Im pretty sure it is also very expensive and doesn't come with a graphics card at all, so good luck getting a 3060 or a slim 6700xt to put in there. By the time you are done with it, you will probably have spent $2500 to have a small desktop with worse thermals than a comparable mini itx computer.
my mini pc is a acer veriton n4640g i3 6100t 16gb of ballistix ddr4 laptop ram but it has full size pcie slot at the moment its got a gt 545 powered by external psu this is my main gaming rig as I am off grid.
@@rossclutterbuck1060 no, of course not. But it would still be nice to see some comparisons to things in the same price range, even if it's not windows. Doesn't all have to be AliExpress crap
@@rossclutterbuck1060 it would be if you use ps2 slim model, there is barely space in it. Forget about putting any high end laptop cpu or graphics card. In best case you will have to go with apu. That would be a definitely complex chalange.
I watched the gamers nexus review of the hs90 before coming here. There is liquid metal everywhere but not on the cpu.miniforum is straight up lying and incompetent, watch the gn review. Edit: spelling.
Thank you for the video and for your insights. Just ordered the Topton mini pc with the 9750H cpu as you recommended. It's priced now for 585$ (Bareboned) shipped which is a good deal for those specs.
Huh something weird happened when manufacturing the RAM stick resist lacquer, it's too thin on one of them, resulting in completely different seeming PCB colour!
Very unfair comparison. The HX90 has an iGPU, of course it's going to suffer more with gaming. You can't compare apples and oranges, Dawid. It's not fair to compair price and CPU only, you MUST take other hardware to consideration. I know this comment will be drowned in the others. But holy fuck, the audacity to compare a iGPU and a DGPU
Bought HX 90 then added a 27" Samsung TV (monitor) absolutely love it. Had a HP all in one with windows 7 for a long time. Super slow with todays standard. What is nice is the TV has nice speakers built in. All I had to do was Blue tooth mouse and keyboard and was up in running in less than a half hour. Super FAST really pleased.
Are you sure Dawid that the HX90 using Liquid Metal for the CPU? Gamers Nexus and Jays2Cents are finding that the Unit is using REGULAR CPU thermal paste. you may want to check that
I don't think most people would buy a mini-pc to act as a gaming machine when you can get a nicer gaming capable desktop PC for less money. I think these are nice for home theater PC or maybe a work environment where space is an issue. I would much rather have the 5900HX to use as a development machine than I would the other PC with nvidia graphics, plus I would have much better support in Linux for the AMD graphics.
What's odd, his temperatures are lower than some of the other reviews. Der8auer showed that if liquid metal was used as intended the temps would max out in the 70s instead of the low 90s. They have a premium cooler (twin-heatpipe polished nickel plated copper) designed for liquid metal, I think the assembly process just wasn't ready for it because installing liquid metal is far more involved than squeezing a paste tube. It's a rough position some idiot at Minisforum put this growing brand into....the HM80 and several others showed promise.
I wish Rembrandt apu close the gap to gtx1650 We really need a capable 1080p apu these days Considering nxt year rdna3 will be a big jump from top to bottom Rx7500xt shud be close to 6700xt
Your analogy of the huge but pointless crab arm is such an accruate way to describe the overpowered CPU in the HX. I'd like to see how it would perform with a GPU strapped on!
EVERYTHING Minis Forum makes is crap. Their "gaming" PC's are an absolute joke. They'd probably be considered shit by Chinese internet cafe's. And that's saying a lot in throwaway china. They will NOT stop a production line if they see an issue with the 2nd piece of a 1000 unit run. They don't build mockups for testing but once a design is ok'd go full production. I've got one of these "gems" that I only use for email and UA-cam videos. $600 later. Very loud too.
Yea I'm not too excited for companies to start using liquid metal. I love how system builders either use the crappiest thermal paste or the extremely niche liquid metal. Just use some good MX-4 or Artic silver and be done with it.
Having done laptops and ITX in the past, Arctic Silver has some of the same concerns of protecting the board against short circuits. But I take your point that unless it's an advertised feature the cooling transfer media is a cost-cutting area.
Just watched Gamers Nexus video about the minisforum hx90. He was not impressed at all. They did use liquid metal but not on the cpu it was all over the inside of the case, and the motherboard.
I have just begun my research into mini PCs, looking to build or buy one that is low power and low heat for use as a gaming dedicated server for game like dayz, valhiam, 7 days to die. Any suggestions would be wonderful.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff can we, as in you, test that? Even a 1650 in the hx90, vs 1650 laptop sweat box edition would be fun to watch I dont know this eta prime you speak of. Mainly here for the thiddies and jokes I'd expect from the uncle you're told not to be alone with
@@anthonylong5870 yeah the newer Nuc Extremes can utilize a much more powerful graphics, with significantly better cooling. I worked on one before and its actually a really cool design.
I feel like the HS 90 is a nice Wolkswagen gold GTI diesel turbo : a little car not many care about who can actually kick in some pretty insane high-gear but looks like nothing. The Top Top, on the other end, is like a pawnshop-style modified car : It looks a bitch much on the outside, much more ridiculous on the inside, no one knows what it is, it's missing at least a screw and can blow up from overheating, and might cost the same, but is waaaaay cooler :D
I do believe AMD's Rembrandt CPUs with RDNA based graphics are rumoured to be in mass production. But RDNA based APUs won't happen until AMD adopt DDR5 (which is what Rembrandt is using)
Does the holes on the motherboard match that of the ATX standard? If yeah, could it mean it can be attached on some cases maybe ITX? (might have to remove that 2.5" drive bay'ish bracket)
@@attilathehun79 Could be many reasons, maybe making use of that extra chassis fan header or something. Maybe years later or in very rare cases where the shroud does get compromised, so you'd want to know if it can have an easy replacement. But mostly just for the sake of knowing out of curiosity.
@@Yosuru This whole system point is the small form factor, so curiosity or not, you could buy a 5800x with any size of a motherboard, with a used gtx 1660 for the same price that the barebone cost.
They should be capable. Microsoft isn't advertising this, but you can still install and use Windows 11 by doing a fresh install of it on the system. They just won't allow you to upgrade from 10 to 11 without those features. It's supposedly something "For businesses to evaluate Windows 11" or some such garbage.
you should get an m.2 to pcie 16x adapter for the HX90, put a good desktop class gpu in there and compare it in gaming to a similarly specced laptop
Yo how tf is that a thing
Sup
Good idea
Dapz try to make a video on buying a gpu in 2021 I bet you wont
Yeah do this
1) Correction: I just saw the Gamers Nexus video about there not actually being liquid metal on the CPU. So the bit where I say that apparently it has on it is incorrect.
2) Check out your brand new SmartDesk with a 5% discount (21DAWID5) at: rb.gy/b4oa5g
3) I forgot to mention why the Top Top is a lier. Basically none of the sexy Bios features that I showed in its video did anything. I spent a couple days trying to get it to apply any of those settings to no avail. 😅
a l l h a i l d a w i d
I'd love to see what could be done strapping a desktop GPU to the 5900HX using an NVMe adaptor
@@RorzXrctXcam That is a good idea, however ETA Prime had done that video like a week ago. 😅
@@DawidDoesTechStuff hmm, I must have subconsciously absorbed the idea
Chuwi is coming out with more mini PCs that have decent GPUs... aka Ryzen iGPUs.
the sheer stupid bravery of taking it apart BEFORE the gaming/testing…
don’t ever change
lol, there's no way he did the opening part before the testing.
@@SSJfraz Let's say I definitely didn't do the opening part before the testing. 😅
Souldnt matter unless he took off the cooler
@@andresacosta5318 The coorel you mean! It's cooling croes after all, not cores, which require a cooler
Coorel is an excellent word. Those bargain boys know how to sell a man.
As a AliExpress user, I can tell you there are tons of mini gaming PCs that have graphics cards in them. They are scattered everywhere.
Indeed, with the right search terms you can find them
@@darknessblades good sir what term would you use for best results?
@@nghit183376 A custom build ITX pc.
There is indeed a huge selection of those PC's on there. Aliexpress shopping is always a good time.
@@hansbehrends438 gtx 1030?
Dawid…. Install a 2.5ssd to boot from, then use your 4x to 16x pci cable and attach a 3080 to the hx90…. For science purposes
Yeah, that'd work peachy!
I did think of doing that, however ETA Prime did that video like a week ago. 😁
@@DawidDoesTechStuff but still its worth it many peopel will want others
@@DawidDoesTechStuff try it and show us many people will probably like it
@Matty Wyett-Simmonds hey bro try can u post a vid with benchmarks
Ok, but the real question is.
Which one is the best to strap to your back and use for a VR Headset?
Probably the Top Top
How big of a battery does one need to wear with it?
The Top Top
What about electricity
@@werter490 a power cable plugged into the ceiling.
I'm shocked that auto-correct or spell check didn't catch that "CROE" error.
CROE architecture lmaoo
@@aiyaz379 I loved that movie. Brandeon Lee is a legend.
@@megan_alnico I'm so confused, what movie
@@aiyaz379 "The Crow" is a movie starring Brandon Lee. From Wikipedia: "1994 The Crow Eric Draven Shot and killed as a result of negligence during filming. Special effects and a stand-in were used to complete Lee's remaining scenes. Released posthumously."
@@wargamingrefugee9065 gotcha👍
"liquid metal" on the heatsink, actually means they spray tiny droplets of liquid metal all over the motherboard.
I got a gaming laptop on Facebook marketplace with a gtx 1650 that was selling for only $300 because it had a broken screen. That's my own mini gaming pc. Hooked it up to a monitor and never thought about that broken screen again.
Thinking outside the box ?
Hard Times call for hard decisions lol good thinking!
Fair, I can respect that.
Prime example of think smarter not harder
5Head
iFixit Kit: Contains MANY dedicated prying tools.
Dawid: Uses the non conductive tweezers and is surprised when they snap o.O
I saw the CSgo benchmark results and thought, 'that's disgustingly embarrassing'
you know what that goes for all the benchmarks
Nearly lost my marbles when Dawid said "I don't think becoming intimately acquainted with your devices mortality before powering it up for the first time makes for a good user experience."
I dont know what was worse, Verg's PC build or this disassembly.
Easily The Verge's PC build because it was misleading with bad advice and didn't even run the RAM in dual channel mode. It also nearly ruined the presenter's life because he was given a ridiculous deadline to do the video in with almost no information, so sure he looked inept, but it was because of extremely poor editorial control and management. LinusTechTips actually did a co-op "re"-build with him and they talked about how much of a mess it was behind-the-scenes.
I watch a lot of tech channels, and have for a while. All the usuals, plus some retro, and some others. I think it's safe to say this is my all around favorite. And it's purely because of Dawids way of describing things. And Thiddy.
I love how Dawid was too lazy to Google what the dimensions would be in metric to better understand the difference of height for his sponsor lmao
Someone find me a video where he DOESN'T manage to say "Thiddy".
... Also, no one tell him that Canada is still technically part of America. The north one to be exact.
*Mini pc’s are laptops without screens*
Change my mind
they are laptops without screens... and keyboards and touchpads.
Thermals are usually a bit better than laptops.
I still like them, though. Wish I could buy one.
Couldn't agree more
@@jeyendeoso Ik they’re kinda neat but would still opt for a normal gaming pc or then again it depends on what you’re gonna sue it for :D
Wait, Dawid got a computer with dual channel RAM! Nothing in this Universe makes any sense to me anymore…
That was the opposite result to what I was expecting. Way to go, TopTop.
iirc Tech Jesus mentioned it's 3200 MHz, but CL22 ??? I think I'd rather buy better ram myself.
Thank you bro these crappier pc series is amazing love that you throw upgrades in them too
so it has all of the negative points of a laptop without the display or keyboard
Haha!! Pretty much.
It's intended differently. It has a CPU mostly found in $1500-2500 laptops but does not have the dGPU, screen or battery. It has tons more ports than a laptop, room for three internal SSDs, and a hardwired 2.5GbE networking. It's more for workstation, media PC and/or home server usage. It's definitely not for everyone.
Also right now, there's a lot riding on whether they got the manufacturing sorted out or will shipped product have the wrong thermal paste like the prototypes do.
I love the small form factor but both are bad value since a laptop with an 1650 is around $700 too. Considering that the toptop is basically a laptop motherboard put into a mini pc case.
for 800 USD I've got a 9750H and a 1660Ti. So yea, you're about right. Thankfully that ALSO came with a 144hz display on it. Keyboard was disappointing though since the key rollover is 2 keys...so playing anything requiring WASD movement was unfortunate, so you might find yourself dropping like 50 dollars on an external keyboard with mine.
iirc its a desktop version 1650, if so itll outperform a mobile 1650
@@sumi7065 with a 3+1 power delivery, absolutely not, it's pretty much a laptop
@@entryofemotion12 Or you can go buy a Salvation Army PC with a 4 or 5yr old CPU for $100 then buy a 6700xt and drop it in for INSANE performance for about $800 total (and thats scalper priced)
@@anthonylong5870 I've literally never seen a PC at a salvation army
The HX90 has recently had a revision released with an RX 6600 on board, so check that out sometime
This was an amazingly timely video. I had completely forgotten about the Top Ton, and preordered an HX90 on the 1st, when their ship date still said mid-September. Well, after checking this video I checked for updates on the HX90... Now the ship dates are available in detail and my order won't ship until the end of October.
So for $8 more than the HX90 config I preordered, I got the i9 variant (I value the cores a bit), and their sure to be slow RAM that I can swap out at my leisure.
Dude cancel that order and get the Top Top
Incidentally, it's supposed to be WAY easier to get the board out. Minisforum's ram/ssd installation video shows that they suggest pushing against the lobes of the drive tray while pulling slightly on the case plastic. It just popped right out.
its nice watching this knowing you'll never be able to afford anything more expensive than an hp elitebook. Makes the vid all the more valuable
I got the toptop PC with i7 after watching this video. Absolutely love it.
I thought the case would look tacky but it's actually not too bad.
Price is very reasonable and the portability/space saving is insane.
Where did you order from? AliExpress worries me.. mostly fear of the unknown as I've never used before
When I think of how much I paid for my Canyon Lake NUC w/ an I7-8705G & Vega 6 graphics (over $2000 CDN including 16GB memory and 1TB SSD), and I see prices in the $900 - $1000 range for these two units, I really want to cry.
Now, I DID buy it as a HTPC, not a gaming PC, so I am still happy with the purchase (and it does OK playing Portal at 1080p), but in just over 2 years mini PC's have certainly improved AND plummeted in price.
But mine DOES have programmable skull lighting on the case, so there's that. (of course I shut it off immediately after my intial "oooh")
I believe the newest NUC is amazing in its power and capabilites. It can take a 2 slot desktop graphics card and everything. Im pretty sure it is also very expensive and doesn't come with a graphics card at all, so good luck getting a 3060 or a slim 6700xt to put in there. By the time you are done with it, you will probably have spent $2500 to have a small desktop with worse thermals than a comparable mini itx computer.
I love how u uses medical terms for sufferage makes me laugh all the time
my mini pc is a acer veriton n4640g i3 6100t 16gb of ballistix ddr4 laptop ram but it has full size pcie slot at the moment its got a gt 545 powered by external psu this is my main gaming rig as I am off grid.
Yay dawid is back....oh hell yeah
Now throw in the M1 mac mini and see how they do.
you seem to have mistaken this channel for something serious...
@@rossclutterbuck1060 no, of course not. But it would still be nice to see some comparisons to things in the same price range, even if it's not windows. Doesn't all have to be AliExpress crap
@@rossclutterbuck1060 nah, they aren't wrong, I was also thinking about m1 Mini
3:17 "It's destroying my little splooger"
Make a pc inside of a PS2 that’s ur new challenge
that's not even a challenge
@@rossclutterbuck1060 it would be if you use ps2 slim model, there is barely space in it. Forget about putting any high end laptop cpu or graphics card. In best case you will have to go with apu. That would be a definitely complex chalange.
Dawid you should cram a GTX1660 in the HX90 😂
The Minis teardown was by fare my favorite one you've done so far and I've watched most, if not all of your videos.
Why are you saying top top when it says the name of the pc is Topton, am i missing anything here? haha
Mispronunciation for entertainment effect
Waaaaa
Haha!! Apparently I'm stupid. Genuinely didn't realise.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff It just made me a little confused, no big deal and i think everyone understand what you mean anyway. Love your videos 👍
"...the manual is aggressively unhelpful." Made me spit my drink across my laptop laughing. Well done sir. Thank you.
Appreciate the honesty. Good hands-on review and comparison 👍
The i9 just got slapt in the face by the ryzen 9 on cinabench
I dont love this mini pc .
but i love your videos
I watched the gamers nexus review of the hs90 before coming here. There is liquid metal everywhere but not on the cpu.miniforum is straight up lying and incompetent, watch the gn review. Edit: spelling.
Oh dayum! Yeah I saw. That's crazy, they really went to town on the little HS90. Thanks for letting me know.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I like your video nevertheless. Sometime it is ridiculous how hard companies fail.
Thank you for the video and for your insights. Just ordered the Topton mini pc with the 9750H cpu as you recommended. It's priced now for 585$ (Bareboned) shipped which is a good deal for those specs.
Did it come with games on it ?
@@ceddygwap2795 Dude?😐
@@jay9icest some of them are just the pc and don't have games on it so it's a valid question
Huh something weird happened when manufacturing the RAM stick resist lacquer, it's too thin on one of them, resulting in completely different seeming PCB colour!
Very unfair comparison. The HX90 has an iGPU, of course it's going to suffer more with gaming.
You can't compare apples and oranges, Dawid. It's not fair to compair price and CPU only, you MUST take other hardware to consideration. I know this comment will be drowned in the others. But holy fuck, the audacity to compare a iGPU and a DGPU
Bought HX 90 then added a 27" Samsung TV (monitor) absolutely love it. Had a HP all in one with windows 7 for a long time. Super slow with todays standard. What is nice is the TV has nice speakers built in. All I had to do was Blue tooth mouse and keyboard and was up in running in less than a half hour. Super FAST really pleased.
Steve from GN just eviscerated the HX 90
Hahaha!! Yeah, their's was in really bad condition. Dat Liquid Metal Bukkake.
DerBauer has his video out now too.
Are you sure Dawid that the HX90 using Liquid Metal for the CPU? Gamers Nexus and Jays2Cents are finding that the Unit is using REGULAR CPU thermal paste. you may want to check that
nevermind I just seen your comment on Gamers Nexus.
I don't think most people would buy a mini-pc to act as a gaming machine when you can get a nicer gaming capable desktop PC for less money. I think these are nice for home theater PC or maybe a work environment where space is an issue. I would much rather have the 5900HX to use as a development machine than I would the other PC with nvidia graphics, plus I would have much better support in Linux for the AMD graphics.
4:20 deserves a disclaimer that they claim to used liquid metal but just use normal thermal paste
What's odd, his temperatures are lower than some of the other reviews. Der8auer showed that if liquid metal was used as intended the temps would max out in the 70s instead of the low 90s. They have a premium cooler (twin-heatpipe polished nickel plated copper) designed for liquid metal, I think the assembly process just wasn't ready for it because installing liquid metal is far more involved than squeezing a paste tube.
It's a rough position some idiot at Minisforum put this growing brand into....the HM80 and several others showed promise.
Dawid you forgot to add thubderbolted Egpus into account.... Please make another video like round 2: what if these beasts had outside muscle help ?
Do you happen to have any updated recommendations on a super fast mini pc with Excellent GPU USB port & multiple hdmi around the same price points.
I wish Rembrandt apu close the gap to gtx1650
We really need a capable 1080p apu these days
Considering nxt year rdna3 will be a big jump from top to bottom
Rx7500xt shud be close to 6700xt
Love your vids dawid, shame you dont make them 5 times a day lol. Joking, keep up the good work
The pc is junk.It has no carbon fiber or liquid metal.It is just a scam from the manufacturer.And many great youtuber have shown that.
Haven't you seen Steve's video on the HX 90? It doesn't even actually use liquid metal.
regarding @4:20 liquid metal : HX90 has liquid metal problems : ua-cam.com/video/V4eazJIqRHg/v-deo.html
You need to find a way to integrate that Zen3 Croe architecture with the Coorel cooling solution for the ultimate PC experience!
Now I want a top top
More of a bottom man myself.
Your analogy of the huge but pointless crab arm is such an accruate way to describe the overpowered CPU in the HX. I'd like to see how it would perform with a GPU strapped on!
You should be careful or Dawid might just zip tie a 1030 to it
@@dannybrennan31 This is true! We know how much he loves getting to play with a 1030.
EVERYTHING Minis Forum makes is crap. Their "gaming" PC's are an absolute joke. They'd probably be considered shit by Chinese internet cafe's. And that's saying a lot in throwaway china. They will NOT stop a production line if they see an issue with the 2nd piece of a 1000 unit run. They don't build mockups for testing but once a design is ok'd go full production. I've got one of these "gems" that I only use for email and UA-cam videos. $600 later. Very loud too.
Is it decent for audio production? I can get one for around same price ($630).
FIRST
Ok
nice gg gamer
Wait people still do this?
The one with Superman's body because it ain't facing Batman
Yea I'm not too excited for companies to start using liquid metal. I love how system builders either use the crappiest thermal paste or the extremely niche liquid metal. Just use some good MX-4 or Artic silver and be done with it.
Having done laptops and ITX in the past, Arctic Silver has some of the same concerns of protecting the board against short circuits. But I take your point that unless it's an advertised feature the cooling transfer media is a cost-cutting area.
GamerNexus Doesn’t not approve of MiniForums pc
Water cooling for the top top ?
Pretty sure I see 2 drops of liquid metal on the ram at 4:05 also a little on the cpu cooler maybe.
can you open them both up and see if they really do put liquid metal
Check for liquid metal jazz all over the Forum, thanks Gamers Nexus
Have you seen Gamers Nexus take on the Minisform HX90?
Please get a 5700G and put it in the hx90 and compare again.
hx90 is much better as server
Just watched Gamers Nexus video about the minisforum hx90. He was not impressed at all. They did use liquid metal but not on the cpu it was all over the inside of the case, and the motherboard.
I have an Autonomous desk lamp for painting and crafting and its pretty amazing.
Gamers Nexus just released a video on the HX90 calling it Utter Incompetence. No liquid metal for the CPU.
i sense a video coming with that fan header 👀👀
Davie504 would want you to SLAP that base next time. You know, for science.
At least do a base battle with it. SMH!
33rd comment and also hi Dawid I love your video's
Yay I'm early
My PC doesn't want to boot anymore wat should I do?😔
Burn incense and recite prayers to the Omnissiah
put some faster memory in the HS 90 run your benchmarks again against the top top it'll make for interesting UA-cam video :)
I would LOVE to know if this can do Rocket League at 240 or 360 fps on 1080p low settings.
the HS90 does not have liquid metal cooling.
Maybe you should try an eGpu on the HX 90.
That will beat the Top Top one by alot!
It won't have thunderbolt it's an amd design.
@@mkkohls he means by using the nvme port instead which... It works. Eta prime did it but it doesn't look great.
ECC ram is compatible n that ryzen device?
I love your humour! It's subtle and hilarious, just bought a Asus g14 and love it but loving your VIDs even more haha
Jay and Steve found no Liquid metal in there's
I have just begun my research into mini PCs, looking to build or buy one that is low power and low heat for use as a gaming dedicated server for game like dayz, valhiam, 7 days to die. Any suggestions would be wonderful.
Nice David504 cameo btw!
OMG! Mindblowing!
Could an external video card on the hx90 be done? I know it's not thunderbolt, but it would be worth a shot
Oh for sure. ETA Prime already did a video on it. It works very well. 👍
@@DawidDoesTechStuff can we, as in you, test that? Even a 1650 in the hx90, vs 1650 laptop sweat box edition would be fun to watch
I dont know this eta prime you speak of. Mainly here for the thiddies and jokes I'd expect from the uncle you're told not to be alone with
Have you looked at the Intel Nuc Extremes?
Yeah i was thinking that. Nuc would polish these both i think
@@anthonylong5870 yeah the newer Nuc Extremes can utilize a much more powerful graphics, with significantly better cooling. I worked on one before and its actually a really cool design.
I feel like the HS 90 is a nice Wolkswagen gold GTI diesel turbo : a little car not many care about who can actually kick in some pretty insane high-gear but looks like nothing. The Top Top, on the other end, is like a pawnshop-style modified car : It looks a bitch much on the outside, much more ridiculous on the inside, no one knows what it is, it's missing at least a screw and can blow up from overheating, and might cost the same, but is waaaaay cooler :D
I just bought the 9300h tontop for $502 without coupons for my lil bro
Hopefully it's a big jump over his 2200u laptop
I just looked up the HX90 and thought it's $500 was a bit much, but in the time of this vid it was $1000 - ouch -.
The gaming performance of the 5900HX really drives home how badly Zen3 needs some RDNA2 iGPUs.
I do believe AMD's Rembrandt CPUs with RDNA based graphics are rumoured to be in mass production.
But RDNA based APUs won't happen until AMD adopt DDR5 (which is what Rembrandt is using)
@@riven4121 The steam deck custom chip seems to be the test platform for this setup. 4 cores, rdna igpu, ddr5, sounds like a 6300U to me.
Does the holes on the motherboard match that of the ATX standard?
If yeah, could it mean it can be attached on some cases maybe ITX? (might have to remove that 2.5" drive bay'ish bracket)
And why would you want to put it in a case?
@@attilathehun79 Could be many reasons, maybe making use of that extra chassis fan header or something.
Maybe years later or in very rare cases where the shroud does get compromised, so you'd want to know if it can have an easy replacement.
But mostly just for the sake of knowing out of curiosity.
@@Yosuru This whole system point is the small form factor, so curiosity or not, you could buy a 5800x with any size of a motherboard, with a used gtx 1660 for the same price that the barebone cost.
@@attilathehun79 I guess you have not watched many "Dawid Does Tech Stuff" videos? I'll leave it at that.
Are they both Windows 11 capable? I'm seeing the Chinese bios makers really dragging their feet adding in Secure Boot and TPM functionality.
They should be capable. Microsoft isn't advertising this, but you can still install and use Windows 11 by doing a fresh install of it on the system. They just won't allow you to upgrade from 10 to 11 without those features. It's supposedly something "For businesses to evaluate Windows 11" or some such garbage.
The new studio space is looking great!
Ok now eGPU the hx90!
The davie504 bass joke killed me
Anyone here can tell me the name of the motherboard in the Top Ton pc? Or something very similar in case, looking to build my own mini pc
So basically TopTop is on the Top?