When an Actor Is Too Passionate - Edward Norton

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
  • Edward Norton is a little too passionate. When he burst onto the scene in the 90s with Primal Fear, American History X and Fight Club, you think he'd have very successful career. But things really slowed down since The Incredible Hulk and when you look at the behind the scenes stories you start to see why. Norton walks the fine line between being overly passionate and controlling.
    We'll be looking through Edward Norton's career when he was at his most passionate and controlling. From creating a different cut of a film that made the director denounce Norton in a 35 page ad, to getting kicked out of the MCU for not being very “collaborative”. It's said that Norton often comes to set with rewrites to whatever film he's in, but almost always his changes improve the film.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:57 - Rise to Fame
    02:31 - American History X
    04:51 - More Controlling Stories
    07:10 - The Incredible Hulk
    09:45 - After Hulk Slowdown
    Edward Norton. Primal Fear. American History X. Fight Club. Brad Pitt. The Incredible Hulk. Bruce Banner. MCU. Red Dragon. Marlon Brando. The Score. Rounders. Tony Kaye. Controlling Actor. On set issues. 90s actor. Frida. The Italian Job. Kevin Feige. Pride and Glory. Oscar nominated. Motherless Brooklyn. Birdman. Wes Anderson. Moonrise Kingdom. The Grand Budapest Hotel. Glass Onion Knives Out.
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  • @downhill2629
    @downhill2629 4 місяці тому +1700

    To me, the fact that he has done five movies with Wes Anderson proves that he isn't a control freak, Anderson is one of the most meticulous directors in the world, and every actor he works with talks about the warm and family-feel of his sets. No grouch like Norton supposedly is would work with him again and again.

    • @duckieg420_4
      @duckieg420_4 4 місяці тому +189

      It also sounds like Norton can feel out an amateur/weak person and try to wrest control from them and better highlight the ideas brought forth by the producers. So in a way, if you know how you want your actors performing, the sets and moods are perfect and how you want them, etc. you can control Norton because there’s already a Head in charge

    • @leighfoulkes7297
      @leighfoulkes7297 4 місяці тому +87

      More like, Wes Anderson is just a great artist that a control freak like Norton feels right at home and in need to assert himself.

    • @m4ttyp4nts
      @m4ttyp4nts 4 місяці тому +106

      I've heard Bill Murray praise Wes Anderson for always having a clear vision of his films and what needs to be accomplished each day. I'm guessing that in an environment like that, with a true auteur in control, there's no vacuum for Edward Norton to expand into; he can just be an actor.

    • @EphemeralProductions
      @EphemeralProductions 4 місяці тому +16

      I couldn’t tell he’s meticulous. All of his movies are BIZARRE. I’ve never seen a Wes Anderson film I’ve either understood or liked.

    • @BRILTHY
      @BRILTHY 4 місяці тому +17

      Wes Anderson is most likely just as meticulous and probably plans out his screenplays in great detail, making the actors jobs a bit easier.

  • @ThirdEyeScribe
    @ThirdEyeScribe 4 місяці тому +1095

    I had the privilege of meeting Edward Norton and his (then) fiancée at the hotel I worked back in 2012. I got into the elevator and he was standing behind me, his fiancée next to me. I hadn’t seen him yet and his fiancée was eating from a big bag of Smart Popcorn and I joked about how addictive it was. She and Norton laughed and he made a comment. I then turned around I said “you sound just like Edward Nor…” saw it was him then finished “…ton!”. He just gave me that slick smile of his and said “that’s because I am Edward Norton”. We joked around for a couple mins, even talking more outside while his fiancée finished paying the hotel bills. I mentioned how much I loved him in ‘Death to Smoochy’ and especially in ‘The 25th Hour’ and he was shocked because “most people bring up ‘Fight Club’. I asked him how it was working with Spike Lee as he’s one of my favorite directors, etc. He was super cool the whole time, really seemed to enjoy the conversation. I wasn’t like a gushing fanboy or anything like that. I’ve met tons of celebrities through my work and sooo many can be demanding and hectic but Norton was the complete opposite.

    • @DHGxMcFlurry
      @DHGxMcFlurry 4 місяці тому +68

      That's definitely cool. Some people need to separate how someone acts on set, especially when they can tell the product won't turn out well..And how they act in just normal day to day life with other people

    • @quesovadotas3050
      @quesovadotas3050 4 місяці тому +62

      And then everyone clapped

    • @richardbruton1224
      @richardbruton1224 4 місяці тому +3

      @@DHGxMcFlurry Doesn't mean they can act like a dick on set. Imagine if your coworker was like that because his day was going badly.

    • @j.peters1222
      @j.peters1222 4 місяці тому +25

      Glad you had a positive experience with him. People forget sometimes that actors are human just like the rest of us.

    • @KingC89
      @KingC89 4 місяці тому +15

      Then everybody stood up and clapped.

  • @SpencerJ289
    @SpencerJ289 4 місяці тому +710

    I’ve always enjoyed Edward Norton. He’s one of those actors that draws you to the screen, and gives it his all every time. I never knew he was so difficult to work with. Kinda sounds more so like he’s just super passionate

    • @14192jn
      @14192jn 4 місяці тому +9

      That's not just passion, though. That's also ego, self-importance and a feeling of entitlement. For someone to turn up to a project they are lucky to even get in the first place and to turn up and be like "if I'm in this then it goes MY way". Sad, too. Great actor but who would want to be on set with that?

    • @FloatingWeeds2
      @FloatingWeeds2 4 місяці тому +18

      ​@@14192jn it's the other way around. You're lucky to have Ed Norton on a project.

    • @14192jn
      @14192jn 4 місяці тому +7

      @@FloatingWeeds2 both can be true at the same time.

    • @FloatingWeeds2
      @FloatingWeeds2 4 місяці тому +16

      @@14192jn recall from the video that the projects where Norton stepped in and made his voice heard in an assertive manner the end result was a much improved product that received rave reviews. The only thing standing in the way of this track record of improvement is the ego of other actors and the assigned director. Those are the people with the egos, not the person who is selflessly adding content to the writing and not even requesting a co-directorial credit when he improves the cut.
      If the video elucidates the facts about a high value add to a production, I would be blessed to have Edward Norton work on a project with me that he chose to participate in

    • @14192jn
      @14192jn 4 місяці тому +3

      @JBlandie Nah, they might have worked out well but at then end of the day it is a negative trait to turn up to work and demand the job is done your way because you know better than everyone. That's 100% ego, you're only defending it cause you're bias because you like him as an actor and you're showing celebrity worship.

  • @Bingo_the_Pug
    @Bingo_the_Pug 4 місяці тому +837

    Honestly he dodged a bullet by not continuing as Bruce Banner/Hulk. I can’t imagine him performing in that She-Hulk show like a dancing monkey under Disney’s control

    • @LykeArgy
      @LykeArgy 3 місяці тому +28

      We dodged another great preformance =( if he was there maybe he'd make sure after Avengers 1 that the rest were actually good ... but oh well

    • @TaxinGigs
      @TaxinGigs 3 місяці тому +52

      Avengers movies will age like milk. Over saturation of CGI

    • @thegaminggods1937
      @thegaminggods1937 3 місяці тому +4

      Agreed so hard, he would leak it and marvel would try to sue him

    • @jeffersonhassan4558
      @jeffersonhassan4558 3 місяці тому

      Oh look,the soyboys have arrived

    • @footballtomorrow9343
      @footballtomorrow9343 3 місяці тому +3

      given his composure and heightened self-confidence, he would have probably pressed the sceptre down on the ground given once they asked him about doing those horrid dance movies. actors like him should always be appreciated, their respective behaviors encouraged and advocated for, since they not only demonstrate their dignity and passion for acting and content production, but their vehement detest for abhorrent content as well

  • @Joecbg100
    @Joecbg100 4 місяці тому +341

    I can't hate someone like him even if it's a thin line between control and passion. He's still an incredible actor.

  • @crashburn3292
    @crashburn3292 4 місяці тому +258

    Norton's come out performance in Primal Fear has to rank among the all-time best in motion pictures. It blows me away every time I watch that movie.

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia 4 місяці тому +8

      It's funny because that movie js considered to be rather lackluster, and yet I agree, Norton is acting circles around multiple established legends in the industry.

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 4 місяці тому

      ​@@6tiple6ix6afia It's a very good movie.

    • @aWomanFreed
      @aWomanFreed 4 місяці тому +13

      He carried that film….his performance made the plot twist possible/believable.

    • @Borkeman06
      @Borkeman06 3 місяці тому +1

      Cool twist in that movie I remember seeing it in cinema

    • @toolatetothestory
      @toolatetothestory 3 місяці тому

      He absolute owned that movie. It's just his.
      And Richard Gere is by no means a bad actor, but Edward just stole the show.

  • @vb_blokeboi7251
    @vb_blokeboi7251 4 місяці тому +534

    Man American History X is one of the best films of all time. I had no idea it was actually Norton's cut and Kaye lost his mind over it. He should be thanking him and Furlong. They both turned in incredibly moving performances and the cut is what makes that film so good; the past in black and white and the present in colour is so prescient and it defines the message of the film. Without some of those familial flashbacks you lose so much character development too.

    • @FilmStack
      @FilmStack  4 місяці тому +62

      Agreed! Yeah apparently Kaye’s cost was very loosely put together, didn’t have much structure. More of an art film kind of vibe, where as Norton’s cut made it have an easier to follow along story

    • @reptongeek
      @reptongeek 4 місяці тому +15

      I actually read an article around the time of the films release and Tony Kaye was dicking around with New Line Cinema quite a bit. I can't remember the details as it was a long time ago

    • @bobbressi5414
      @bobbressi5414 4 місяці тому +19

      Kaye seems like the unstable one.

    • @anneominous7172
      @anneominous7172 4 місяці тому +6

      A brilliant performance from Norton, no mistake - but it absolutely would have been a better, more powerful film with its original ending.

    • @nl3064
      @nl3064 4 місяці тому +5

      @vb_blokeboi7251 ...something tells me you haven't watched enough movies to make that claim. American History X is literally one of those basic cable showings that people think is good when they haven't actually seen anything.

  • @daboos6353
    @daboos6353 4 місяці тому +78

    He's not a control freak, he's a super smart guy who knows how to improve what he's working on. He's been on a bunch of great films that he hasn't changed because they were already great.

    • @acutecloudd7970
      @acutecloudd7970 2 місяці тому +4

      You can admire someone and also admit they have faults. Love edward norton but his fans are celeb worshipers

  • @korbindallas8224
    @korbindallas8224 4 місяці тому +78

    Ending every single sentence with that same note is really tough to listen to for longer than a few minutes

    • @jimbarrett5462
      @jimbarrett5462 4 місяці тому +16

      @korbindallas8224 - THANK YOU! I was scrolling through these comments looking for anyone else that felt the same way. There is no self awareness or control whatsoever in their inflection. It’s constant gas, no brakes.

    • @thatguymatt5816
      @thatguymatt5816 4 місяці тому +18

      Oh god, now that you said it I can’t stop hearing it. It’s killing me

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin 4 місяці тому +8

      I didn't even notice until you brought it up.

    • @dmstewart66
      @dmstewart66 3 місяці тому +2

      lol hey, at least his sentences are in key

    • @user-jn4hf5jo2t
      @user-jn4hf5jo2t Місяць тому +1

      sounds like AI to me

  • @justinyates5558
    @justinyates5558 4 місяці тому +163

    Honestly my favorite movie he was in was the Illusionist, which got overlooked because of the Prestige. I hope he gets more work as a script writer because that seems to be where he thrives with the writing AND performance.

    • @FilmStack
      @FilmStack  4 місяці тому +13

      Yeah such an unfortunate coincidence that those two movies released so close to each other. Came at a time where he needed a hit the most. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s working on another film of his right now. He has the funds to produce one and he seems to really care about the art of film more than the monetary aspect of it

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia 4 місяці тому +3

      That is super disingenuous. You have every right to love that movie, but it would not have been well received no matter what happened with The Prestige. If it sucked, or never came out, even if Christian Bale looked at the camera and said "BY THE WAY GO SEE THE ILLUSIONIST!" the movie would have remained average, if not below average.

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 4 місяці тому +11

      ​@@6tiple6ix6afia Nah. The Illusionist is a very good movie.

    • @toolatetothestory
      @toolatetothestory 3 місяці тому +5

      Both Prestige and Illusionist were great movies, love them both.

    • @ciri_riannon235
      @ciri_riannon235 3 місяці тому +5

      Same, I love that movie. The score is amazing, Edward Norton, Paul Giamatti and Rufus Sewell are phenomenal in it.

  • @AA-lq5pu
    @AA-lq5pu 4 місяці тому +23

    I remember the first time I saw Edward Norton in a role. I was visibly shaken to my core. No one had had that type of effect on me before.

  • @6tiple6ix6afia
    @6tiple6ix6afia 4 місяці тому +33

    American History X was the first Norton film I ever watched, and I actually was convinced that he was a legitimate tough badass. If you know anything about Edward Norton's personality in real life, you begin to understand why making you believe he is a tough guy is a perfect example of hlw insanely talented he is as an actor.

  • @Neero13
    @Neero13 4 місяці тому +44

    In my opinion Norton should just move on to directing his own films, that way he can have full control over his own projects.

    • @jdcaprio2000
      @jdcaprio2000 4 місяці тому +8

      He did

    • @the-berries-and-cream-dude
      @the-berries-and-cream-dude 8 днів тому

      it looks like he can direct as long as someone’s is there to help him because the movies he has directed alone, haven’t done very well.

  • @patanouketgersiflet9486
    @patanouketgersiflet9486 4 місяці тому +111

    It's a pity having glossed over The 25th hour, cause man is this movie an absolute gem, and Norton stellar in it. His best performance in my book.

    • @mongolianqwerty123
      @mongolianqwerty123 4 місяці тому +4

      Absolutely. The cast is stacked! Barry Pepper, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Brian Cox and Anna Paquin all do great work in it. 25th Hour is quietly one of the best films of the 2000's

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 4 місяці тому +2

      That movie was the 2nd movie I saw with him, before that it was Incredible Hulk
      Even back 12-14, I saw how great as an actor he was

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 4 місяці тому +3

      @@mongolianqwerty123 Stellar cast indeed. Plus Lee's directing is top notch, the story is gripping and the sountrack rocks. Absolutely agree, one of the best movies of that decade, hands down.
      For some reason, Sidney Lumet's Before the devil knows you're dead is quite reminiscent of The 25th hour, if you enjoyed that one, you could very well end up liking Lumet's last movie.

    • @milanaisms
      @milanaisms 4 місяці тому +3

      I rarely see anyone mention Before The Devil Knows You’re Sleep; it’s a brilliant movie and Ethan Hawke’s performance is superb (of course Phillip Seymour-Hoffman too)

    • @blu3622
      @blu3622 4 місяці тому +3

      Agreed. The 25th Hour was one of those movies that resonated with me and truly captured how it felt in a post 9/11 NYC.

  • @milesteg8183
    @milesteg8183 2 місяці тому +12

    His best role is in Kingdom of Heaven as King Baldwin. Never see his face but his dialogue is exquisite.

    • @ludiaraxi2881
      @ludiaraxi2881 2 місяці тому +2

      So so so true. He nailed that role. 💯🔥

  • @SairajRKamath
    @SairajRKamath 4 місяці тому +211

    Norton's Hulk movie is a masterpiece compared to the nerfed Hulk we have right now.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou 4 місяці тому +30

      💯 Norton was definitely the better Hulk.

    • @whatzittooya98
      @whatzittooya98 4 місяці тому +8

      facts, he was so good as bruce banner and his Hulk is still the best one we've seen

    • @6tiple6ix6afia
      @6tiple6ix6afia 4 місяці тому +8

      Gotta love revisionist film history. That movie fucking SUUUUUCKS and it was one of Norton's ONLY bland outings.

    • @matthewtrauger3683
      @matthewtrauger3683 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@whatzittooya98 the Bruce Banner from the TV show is better than Norton's bland Hulk. How many Hulk comics have you actually read? My guess would be zero

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 4 місяці тому +11

      ​@@6tiple6ix6afiaNah. The Incredible Hulk is a very good movie.

  • @chokingmessiah
    @chokingmessiah 4 місяці тому +65

    Norton "just okay" in Rounders? His performance is one of the reasons I continually return to that film.

    • @swaymcthunder1219
      @swaymcthunder1219 4 місяці тому +21

      Some people cant tell the difference between playing an annoying character and bad acting. Norton was great in rounders. That just ok annoyed me as well.

    • @TaxinGigs
      @TaxinGigs 3 місяці тому +8

      Yeah Norton was fantastic in Rounders.

    • @entheo302
      @entheo302 3 місяці тому

      Yeah it’s not even an amazing film, but his acting in it makes me come back to it time and time again

    • @apodipl4596
      @apodipl4596 2 місяці тому +3

      I really hated Norton's character "worm" in the Rounders. Which just shows how great actor he is. He was the best actor in the movie and the movie had Turturo and Malkovich who are both brilliant (+Matt Damon) +Martin Landau

    • @TaxinGigs
      @TaxinGigs 2 місяці тому

      @@apodipl4596 100 percent correct. You just want to punch him in his ribs like 7 different times in that movie. He performed exceptionally.

  • @equanimity92
    @equanimity92 4 місяці тому +44

    3:50 hearing that American History X was almost directed by Humpty Dumpty is probably my favourite sentence/fact of all time 😂😂😂

  • @AlkonKomm
    @AlkonKomm 4 місяці тому +65

    Norton is a great actor with a very consistent performance that starred in a lot of mid movies. how about Sam Rockwell next? freaking love that guy

    • @FilmStack
      @FilmStack  4 місяці тому +18

      Oh that’s be a good idea! Probably one of the most underrated modern actors

    • @Thechairman04
      @Thechairman04 4 місяці тому +2

      FIght Club, Primal Fear, 25th Hour, Rounders and Birdman are decidedly not mid movies that I would put up against most actors top 5.

    • @perryjones7771
      @perryjones7771 4 місяці тому +2

      @@FilmStackhim and Allison Janney and Toni Collette.

  • @turkeyman631
    @turkeyman631 3 місяці тому +9

    When someone continually done what he has done and continually gets it right, I'd call it more of being meticulous and caring than controlling.

  • @jessenunez7205
    @jessenunez7205 4 місяці тому +9

    Norton is just passionate imo. The fact he changed the Hulk script and it’s one of my favorite movies of all time shows the potential he could’ve brought the MCU. He cares about a good story, not what sells and makes money. Money is important but the man values integrity which is far more admirable than riches

  • @WarioSaysSo
    @WarioSaysSo 4 місяці тому +9

    Edward Norton is a great actor, a very passionated actor for his works he takes on. All his roles are iconic.
    I will never-ever change my mind on him being better Bruce Banner/The Hulk then what whiny Mark Ruffalo ever could be. I know there was some conflicts that made him walk away, but what I have seen Norton was the one who was right on the money (!). He knew the character & comics and wanted to make the movie focus more on Dr. Bruce Banners struggles and inner demons in that movie. How Banner was chased by the Army all the time and how his struggle for a cure always failed. How his love life with Betty Ross was shattered and how they both suffered from this. The Hulk should then in a follow-up be more the dominant one seen on screen and now more accepting his fate and role as the Incredible Hulk, at the same time new mutant enemies like the Leader, Absorbing Man etc. enters the sceen to be battled.

  • @carllyngholm5568
    @carllyngholm5568 4 місяці тому +32

    I thought Norton killed that part in "Rounders", it was substantially better than "just ok" imo...

    • @alextj7940
      @alextj7940 4 місяці тому +3

      I was looking for a comment like this, edward norton played the character worm so perfectly

    • @blu3622
      @blu3622 4 місяці тому +1

      Seriously, I felt compelled to comment on that as well. Edward Norton and John Malkovich were both great in Rounders.

    • @swaymcthunder1219
      @swaymcthunder1219 4 місяці тому +1

      @@alextj7940 I was looking for this comment as well, it actually aggravated me quite a bit. I hate when people find a character annoying, and then blame it on the actor saying he/ she wasnt very good. His character wasnt meant to be liked, and i thought he was fantastic as well.

  • @bluechalk6275
    @bluechalk6275 4 місяці тому +54

    Tony Kaye seems a bit...intense

    • @jegr3398
      @jegr3398 4 місяці тому +7

      Yeah he needs to relax. What a complete lunatic.

    • @j.peters1222
      @j.peters1222 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah...He needs to chill the f*ck out lol

    • @P1CKL3_RICK
      @P1CKL3_RICK 3 місяці тому +3

      he just got outdone and was utterly seething over it lol, guess that's what happens when you're a sore loser

    • @TheLowest
      @TheLowest 7 днів тому

      Basically he wanted the movie to show how great of a director he was, got all insecure about Edward norton improving it and then acted like a big baby about the whole thing. He's a child-minded dim wit with stupid earrings

  • @ElvisRose_
    @ElvisRose_ 3 місяці тому +6

    Keeping The Faith is such an underrated cleverly written witty romantic comedy and one that I regularly watch when I need a good laugh. Edward Norton is a fabulous actor. Primal Fear is still one of the best acting performances in a film debut for any actor I've ever seen. I don't know anyone who doesn't love Edward Norton.

  • @mikeoppart
    @mikeoppart 3 місяці тому +6

    Don't forget his uncredited role in Kingdom of Heaven which is an amazing performance that made the film memorable.

    • @ludiaraxi2881
      @ludiaraxi2881 2 місяці тому +1

      SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! 🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯☝️☝️

  • @GobelZachuration11
    @GobelZachuration11 3 місяці тому +4

    I've always wondered why I felt so connected to the guy and now it makes sense... I miss the days when it seemed he was in everything or that any movie I liked he was in it...but... that's kinda what makes his work special is that he prefers the passion projects. I understand not wanting to be a part of something if you cant have your hands in the control of it... it's a blessing and a curse. So much for collaborations and ensembles...
    And you have to respect the fact he isnt a part of the MCU..maybe he wishes he could have been a part of film history but he Probably would have lost himself in the shuffle...lost who he truly is being surrounded by such powerhouses in the marvel movies. Hell I even wish Terrence Howard didnt leave marvel ...I much preferred him as war machine.
    And we will always have the big what if...if Norton would have stayed the hulk...him and Robert Downey jr. Together on screen would have been fucking great.
    But this video really made me like the guy even more knowing that passion can complicate things yet he has other areas in life to direct that passion. We need more norton's in this world and I hope to see him in future projects

  • @Grandmaster-Kush
    @Grandmaster-Kush 4 місяці тому +14

    He's really great in so many diverse roles didn't know he was the adult embodiment of the kid that always sticks after class to ask about homework haha

  • @shinigamiauthor
    @shinigamiauthor 2 місяці тому +2

    I love Nortons work. Even movies I otherwise would find uninteresting, he elevates every single one of them

  • @DesertDawg-oq5fg
    @DesertDawg-oq5fg 3 місяці тому +4

    Fun fact: Edward Norton’s acting partner at Yale was Paul Giamati (whose father was the President of Yale)

  • @SelfishFew
    @SelfishFew 4 місяці тому +11

    Never confuse being an asshole with "passion".

    • @fannie255
      @fannie255 8 днів тому

      lots of assholes are passionate

  • @leighfoulkes7297
    @leighfoulkes7297 4 місяці тому +6

    Edward Norton was such a great addiction to the world of Wes Anderson, fits perfectly in it. Definitely one of my favorite actors in late 20th to 21st century.

  • @chrisberg5964
    @chrisberg5964 4 місяці тому +34

    Did you just say Robert de Nire wasn't handsome? 😂

    • @FiveSigma72
      @FiveSigma72 4 місяці тому +7

      He's not someone you immediately think of as handsome in a leading man sense, even back in the day when he had a completely different face. He would never have had a career based solely on his looks, like a lot of actors have had. Clint Eastwood for example....zero acting range whatsoever, played the exact same part spanning decades and genres, but y'know, he was good at it and that's fine. I totally get why they would say that.

    • @bagel1612
      @bagel1612 4 місяці тому +3

      Noooaooooooo Robert de niro is my ultimate crush ❤😂

    • @lavasharkflowers
      @lavasharkflowers 4 місяці тому +1

      Dude that's exactly what I thought 😂

  • @91MoonKnight
    @91MoonKnight 4 місяці тому +17

    I like Edward Norton as Banner and the Hulk. The Incredible Hulk movie has a version of the Hulk which is better than the version of the Hulk and Banner we're getting recently.

    • @gunsup0331
      @gunsup0331 2 місяці тому

      and jennifer connolly hoo

  • @0749Rockystar
    @0749Rockystar 4 місяці тому +26

    Edward Nortons Hulk is the best version. I remember watching The Avengers in theaters and saying out loud "Who the fuck is that guy?". When Mark Ruffalo showed up.

    • @IAmTheDoctor00
      @IAmTheDoctor00 3 місяці тому +4

      Lol I feel that honestly but Mark is a good actor and he's been in some of my favorite movies, most notably he plays a large part in "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind" I would've loved to see Norton's hulk meet the rest of the avengers though.

  • @levi6801
    @levi6801 4 місяці тому +15

    One of the greatest actors of all time!

  • @mrjagrown
    @mrjagrown 4 місяці тому +5

    What's interesting is that I've never once thought of who directed American history x, and I love that movie.

  • @uzetaab
    @uzetaab 4 місяці тому +3

    Another great video, thanks!

  • @rosscampbell1173
    @rosscampbell1173 3 місяці тому +4

    They glossed over his lineage. He’s the grandson of James Rouse, who wasn’t just a developer but created the town of Columbia Maryland, to make the ideal American town, and it’s 15% more expensive than the surrounding area. He invented the term “urban renewal”.

  • @mjt7231
    @mjt7231 5 днів тому +3

    Fight Club might have been a commercial flop but describing it as a flop and not as one of the most popular cult classics of the 90s is a wild description. It might not have done well in theaters but it’s literally a generational cult classic. If you were around in the 90s. You know what I’m talking about. Or maybe you don’t. Because we’re not supposed to talk about it.

  • @AlkisenSuper
    @AlkisenSuper 4 місяці тому +13

    His performance in Rounders was "just okay"? Did we watch the same movie?

  • @nrgao
    @nrgao Місяць тому +1

    I was a kid when Primal Fear came out… me and my dad watched it together one night for the first time… I can remember laying on a blanket in the dark, the fire crackling and watching that movie. That moment of the big reveal scared the hell out of me as a kid for some reason. My dad thought it was one of the best film twists he had seen at the time. It’s a core memory of mine.

  • @brandonryder5873
    @brandonryder5873 4 місяці тому +4

    I really like Kingdom of Heaven but had no idea Norton played the king. No wonder it's a good character.

  • @ProductBasement
    @ProductBasement 4 місяці тому +5

    I might have cared about the Avengers movies if he kept playing the Hulk

  • @jdcaprio2000
    @jdcaprio2000 4 місяці тому +3

    You can tell by Edward Norton's different kind of role he had which has proven how talented and brilliant actor he is,unlike some of other actors out there who have similar and stereotypes kind of role which is predictable.
    So imagine while he's working behind the scenes.

  • @skystryker2037
    @skystryker2037 Місяць тому +3

    Calling him a “control-freak” is one perspective, but another way to look at it is that he was more concerned about making sure the movie is actually good, whereas the writers had hurt egos because they were afraid of losing their credit 🤷‍♂️

  • @halloweenlady4073
    @halloweenlady4073 4 місяці тому +5

    Seems like for the most part the more control he gets the better the movie is. They might be the ones with the ego issues.

  • @Suedetussy
    @Suedetussy 3 місяці тому +3

    Even if he was very passionate and often enough has improved a movie with his changes, i think everyone should stick to their role. I see it as overstepping other people’s boundaries.
    If he knows better than the director or script writer, then he should start out as a director or writer instead of as an actor.

    • @channel45853
      @channel45853 2 місяці тому +1

      exactly

    • @jenniferb.awesome
      @jenniferb.awesome 2 місяці тому +2

      That's exactly how I feel too. Everyone is saying he's just "passionate" but it seems more like ego. To walk on to a set as an actor and instantly think he will just start taking over other people's jobs and demanding they do things his way seems more like arrogance than passion.

  • @penazas3116
    @penazas3116 Місяць тому

    Great video, I had no idea Norton was this passionate, damn. Also I wanted to suggest to include bits of the interviews mentioned and showed on screen, like on 9:40 I would've liked to listen to him actually talking about the movie for at least a phrase. I think it breaks up the video nicely and makes it more dynamic, while actually showing some of the stuff said.
    p.s.: I realize how ironic it is to give video-making advice in a video about a guy who is borderline a control freak in stuff he's not meant to do, but I'd thought I should still say it lol

  • @aVerveQuest
    @aVerveQuest 22 дні тому +1

    The MCU not wanting to work with Norton is a high compliment to Norton, them saying someone is "anti collaborative" is hilarious

  • @bettyblu8115
    @bettyblu8115 2 місяці тому +1

    The character Norton played so well in Birdman is a strong indicator of both his sense of humour and self-deprecation. I though Motherless Brooklyn was a great adaptation, a brilliant film and very underappreciated.

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee 4 місяці тому

    The activism visual towards the end Lolol American history terror juxtaposition well done

  • @ChohanKnight
    @ChohanKnight 4 місяці тому +18

    Norton's passion is sadly his own curse

  • @artoisr2
    @artoisr2 4 місяці тому +7

    Wonder why he isn't on Kingdom of Heaven's credits as King Baldwin. He was the best character in that gem of a movie by far.

    • @Adlore
      @Adlore 4 місяці тому

      He's fantastic in it. Might have something with never seeing the face

    • @minecrafttroller1000
      @minecrafttroller1000 4 місяці тому +1

      He said he didn’t want to be in the credits to add a bit of mystery and to give more credit to the other actors in the film if I remember correctly. If you watch any video essays on the movie nearly all of them say the reason behind it

    • @ludiaraxi2881
      @ludiaraxi2881 2 місяці тому

      Frfr. I was shocked when i learned he played the role of King Baldwin. I loved his performance sm

  • @calebfoster7148
    @calebfoster7148 4 місяці тому +4

    He fit the character of Hulk way better than Ruffalo does. Thank goodness Disney decided to assassinate Hulk's characters so that he can fit Mark Ruffalo better

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 4 місяці тому +2

      Eh Norton would have made a better Reed Richards imo. He looks more like Reed Richards and he is a passionate and obsessed with filmmaking like Reed is a passionate and obsessed Richards is with science.

  • @eatdrinkwineguy
    @eatdrinkwineguy 4 місяці тому +2

    He’s such a great actor. I’ll watch anything he is in and I think there are only 2 o 3 movies I haven’t seen of his. Everyone approaches their art differently. Sometime it works, sometimes it doesn’t. I think it’s totally fair if actors or directors don’t want to work with him. So be it.

  • @pcprinciple3774
    @pcprinciple3774 Місяць тому +2

    Given how shit the quality of films has been in the last 2 decades, it's not surprising that a passionate actor would start to fail

  • @alexplorer
    @alexplorer 4 місяці тому +2

    Lots of parallels between him and Bill Murray. I recently read someone relate a behind-the-scenes story of Murray being a nightmare and exasperating a co-star, but the director basically said, "Yeah, it's going to be rough, but this always happens, and the project always comes out better." Similarly, Murray wouldn't collaborate if he thought the project wasn't up to his standards (hence, no Ghostbusters III; he reportedly shredded a script sent to him and mailed it back in that form). Both Murray and Norton are big Wes Anderson regulars as well. Unlike others in that circle (e.g., Willem Dafoe, Angelica Huston, Jeff Goldblum) who don't work on every film, Murray was in 9 consecutive projects with Wes (i.e., all except his first film and most recent film); Norton has been in the last 5 consecutive projects. It's possible to be both unprofessional and exceed in your profession at the same time, although if probably helps if you're only working with people who know how to channel your talent and yield to the right ideas. Wes seems to be able to do that. Personally, I enjoy Murray and Norton's work, but I wouldn't want to be on a project with either.

  • @VividhKothari-rd5ll
    @VividhKothari-rd5ll 3 місяці тому

    That’s incredible! It got me thinking about that movie, ‘Birdman.’ You know, the one where he played a role pretty similar to his real-life self? Makes me wonder what went down during filming.
    Must be hard for the crew to tell when he is in character and when's not, lol
    EDIT: I wrote this before watching the last part of the video where you did mention Birdman.

  • @brad6576
    @brad6576 3 місяці тому +2

    I always thought that Ed Norton and John Cusack should play brothers in a movie.

  • @filhanislamictv8712
    @filhanislamictv8712 4 місяці тому +4

    Of the 2000 actors who auditioned for Primal fear were Matt Damon and his buddy Batman😂

  • @seancroft7939
    @seancroft7939 4 місяці тому +1

    I didn't go to film school but American History X feels like a perfect film in regards to pacing, and editing. It goes back and forth in time it goes from color to Black and White (but it's not distracting distracting). Showing an incomplete seen interjected throughout the film until it is shown in completion.And the payoff. Both horrific and disturbing but that build up makes sure the importance of the scene is not disregarded. The Hulk was fast-paced.. it's not trying to waste time anywhere showing an origin that's already been shown or.. and I appreciate that it pays homage to Bill Bixby, and Lou Ferrigno. And I think he's the only one that did! He seems like somebody that would be cocky and hard to work with but he also seems very competent. He was great in Red Dragon. He had an edge to him.. primal fear blew me away! It's too bad it's the movie goers loss at the end of the day.

    • @yeetnama9094
      @yeetnama9094 23 дні тому

      Except for the heavy-handed, moralistic woke proselytizing.

  • @NoNameNo.5
    @NoNameNo.5 4 місяці тому +3

    Death to Smoochy is an underrated unsung masterpiece….robin Williams is hilarious

  • @iantburrell
    @iantburrell 3 місяці тому +1

    Imo, Motherless Brooklyn is WILDLY underrated. To some degree, I can understand the complaints about its length, but I was so absorbed the entire time. There was clearly a vision in mind, and I think Norton executed it so well. Not to mention that we got a masterpiece of a song out of it all by Thom Yorke, "Daily Battles." One of the very few songs written for a film nowadays that I've played since watching the film.

  • @uzetaab
    @uzetaab 4 місяці тому

    I have a question that might make a good topic for one of your videos. Where did iconic music start? People often refer to movies from the 70s and 80s, like Superman, Star Wars, Jaws and Indiana Jones. The only older iconic sound that comes to mind is the "Rrrttt, Rrrttt, Rrrttt" from the knife scene in Psycho. Were Full Orchestras a thing before these movies? Who started it? Who Perfected it? Is John Williams the greatest movie composer ever?

  • @redmustangredmustang
    @redmustangredmustang 4 місяці тому +3

    The thing is when you are too difficult to work with, you know the saying perception is reality. If you are unworkable with others, studios are going to stay away from you. They don't want that mess causing production delays which means time is money. So you get blackballed. Getting blackballed takes years go ask Brendan Fraiser who that went. It years for him to get back into the starting roll and when he finally did, it paid off. For Edward it might take years for him to get back into a main role.

  • @Yokoso-kj7ij
    @Yokoso-kj7ij 16 днів тому +1

    Shame you didn't mention Kingdom of Heaven. Edward suggested that his name and image to be omitted from he movie to give the character more impact and mystery, and Ridley Scott agread with his vision. The result was one of the greatest depictions of a historical character in cinema.

  • @MattDay-qz6xm
    @MattDay-qz6xm 13 днів тому

    The guy grew up getting whatever he wanted, went to Yale and continued to get whatever he wanted like most actors. No wonder he is what he is.

  • @scarymonsters9130
    @scarymonsters9130 Місяць тому

    Can’t believe his Kingdom of Heaven was brushed off despite having his face covered the entire movie he delivers an amazing performance with his voice body language and eye movements half the time you can’t even tell it’s Norton like no way it’s him

  • @magiko7176
    @magiko7176 2 дні тому

    So that explains everything. All I knew before this video was that Norton being replaced as the Hulk had something to do with his passion and how much he cared about the character.

  • @CrookedRosePOD
    @CrookedRosePOD 28 днів тому +1

    The score is amazing

  • @SirGrit
    @SirGrit 4 місяці тому +1

    Questioning his madness while ignoring his methods, about sums up his career.

  • @Kruppt808
    @Kruppt808 4 місяці тому +2

    Two of my favorite actors of all time, Edward Norton and Michael Pitt. Is it a coincidence they both can be...... difficult to work with?
    :P

  • @zyourzgrandzmaz
    @zyourzgrandzmaz 19 днів тому

    He's genuinely a genius, and being that intelligent tends to make you very unlikeable

  • @user-ic7cx4ox2m
    @user-ic7cx4ox2m 4 місяці тому

    I’ve always loved Edward Norton. I wish he was in more films.

  • @TheSavageBountyHunter
    @TheSavageBountyHunter 3 місяці тому +2

    Control freak or not .
    He is my favorite actor ❤
    Also.. his hulk is the best

  • @notthegreatestdetective
    @notthegreatestdetective 4 місяці тому +4

    i'm afraid to say anything even remotely unflattering as to avoid ruffling any feathers, don't want to fight or argue with anyone, not saying i haven't enjoyed some of the films he's been in at one point or another, just, i wouldn't want to work with him myself were i an actor or director etc., passion might seem great but it can be alot to handle for someone like me

    • @FiveSigma72
      @FiveSigma72 4 місяці тому

      I dunno I hear ya, but part of me would kind of feel good knowing there was someone with immense talent and drive doing their best to make a success out of a project, once he's committed to it. Would be different if it were "my baby", so to speak...someone coming in and making changes etc would feel awful no doubt, but at least with Mr Norton I get the feeling it would not be about ego, but the best outcome for the movie. I think ideally you would want him involved from the ground up, honing a script in a collaborative way, fully understanding what he brings to the table.

    • @notthegreatestdetective
      @notthegreatestdetective 4 місяці тому

      i get that, i see what you're saying, i guess i just fear he isn't doing it without ego involved, or without disrespecting those he works with, even for the sake of the project, its like how Mike Meyers supposedly is really good at ideas but can be difficult to work with@@FiveSigma72

  • @tahimwaicij
    @tahimwaicij 27 днів тому +2

    biggest crime of this video is calling Robert de niro unattractive:(
    other than that, great video!

  • @Mrkti
    @Mrkti 4 місяці тому +3

    This felt a lot like you want to praise him, despite him being horrible to be around, at least professionally.

  • @VerveQuest72
    @VerveQuest72 4 місяці тому +2

    When your main critics are Kaye, Feige, Nolte, and Voigt, id think that says alot

  • @Jasonmakesvideo
    @Jasonmakesvideo 3 місяці тому

    my favorite actor and a fellow baltimoron

  • @brandiepop
    @brandiepop 28 днів тому

    it feels like this man had a choice to direct or act and just never actually finished his decision

  • @leticiapalomino5319
    @leticiapalomino5319 4 місяці тому +4

    I love him.

  • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
    @GustavoSilva-ny8jc 4 місяці тому +2

    4:59 WHAAAAAAT????? That's outrageous

  • @alphadog1961
    @alphadog1961 3 місяці тому

    One of my Favourite Actors.His movies are usually as good as they are because of his acting.

  • @MyOwnPersonalFantasy
    @MyOwnPersonalFantasy 3 місяці тому +3

    Robert De Niro not being a handsome man? Holy shit. Hollywood is brutal. Lol😂

  • @j.peters1222
    @j.peters1222 4 місяці тому

    I like Edward Norton as an actor. You know that no matter what project he is in, he will put in a great performance.

  • @DrCheeks
    @DrCheeks 3 місяці тому +2

    Apparently Kaye’s version of the film was edited like a music video and was not coherent. Also, watching some of his actions and speech, he seems really unstable

  • @HowlingMoonDriveIn
    @HowlingMoonDriveIn 12 днів тому

    Ive heard the stories about how controlling and demanding he can be on set, but Ive also heard he was one of the most hardworking actors on set and gives it his all and fully commits to the role.

  • @Noodlyk18
    @Noodlyk18 25 днів тому +1

    Calling De Niro not the most handsome guy is crazy ngl. Dude looks straight up beautiful in Taxi Driver and Godfather lol

    • @BernardAl
      @BernardAl 19 днів тому

      I agree. He is gorgeous in Taxi Driver.

  • @joseluki
    @joseluki 4 місяці тому +1

    There is a reason why you do not see him much anymore. Because directors are not for leaving an actor hijack their film.

  • @zovalentine7305
    @zovalentine7305 4 місяці тому +3

    ❤ Edward Norton ❤
    🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

  • @BrogenJohnson
    @BrogenJohnson 21 день тому

    The fact that fight club wasn’t received well just shocks me….. I was only 2 when it was released. I was 11 when hulk released - that was my fight club 😆

  • @davidsweeney7837
    @davidsweeney7837 3 місяці тому

    I love ed Norton, great actor overdue recognition. Plus I’m a Wes Anderson nerd too

  • @TC-dx3vv
    @TC-dx3vv 3 місяці тому +1

    I liked him in "Rounders" and thought he was good and compelling as Worm. Also I would like to see him and Ryan Eggold co-starring in something sometime. There is an age gap there - maybe uncle and nephew or mentor and mentee etc. Eggold (especially in "The Blacklist") reminded me a lot of young Norton.

  • @_Just_John
    @_Just_John 13 днів тому +1

    9:15 - "Actor who embodies collaborative spirit." - So Kevin Feige basically want someone who does as he want. How unsurprising for Disney.

  • @user-dh2iz7ew7t
    @user-dh2iz7ew7t 3 місяці тому +1

    I would love to meet Edward Norton one day

  • @basicfeelings8375
    @basicfeelings8375 3 місяці тому

    His career didn't slow down only due to that, it feels like Norton just loves doing good projects he actually believes it

  • @kbreviews7785
    @kbreviews7785 Місяць тому

    It is literally the most frustrating thing for a director to have to deal with an actor that thinks they can just take control of a set. The whole job of a director is to craft the narrative, and the actors job is to interpret their character within the story. If a director wanted someone to step on their toes every step of filming they'd hire a co director or work for marvel.

  • @redtrinitygirl
    @redtrinitygirl 4 місяці тому +1

    I love him as a actor!!