Chinese Theater Restroom - Standing Ovation . . . . . . True Story. I saw heat at the Chinese Theater in Los Angeles in 1995. 3 Hour Movie. Afterwards the audience rushes to the restrooms. The Chinese Theater men's restroom has a wall of 30+ Urinals. All the men line up, not a word is spoken, just letting it wiz after holding it for 3 hours. In the silence, in this crowd of 50+ men, a lone voice is heard, "Fuck, that was a GREAT Movie!" . . . . Suddenly, the men in unison start banging on the wall, with random voices yelling, "Hell ya, man" - a standing ovation in the Chinese Theater Restroom.
Just wanted to make a note on a "What aged the worst" subject. You said Justine just rattles off a great speech after she is left at dinner. In the movies defense, consider how long she has been sitting there. Have you ever rehearsed an argument before it happens or thought about what you will say when you see somebody? I have. I find her pre conceived sounding speech is accurate because she has thought about this speech for hours. She is angry and hurt and gone over all the things she wants to tell Vincent whenever he comes back for her. That is my hot take.
Great point. Also, it is WILD how bad their pronunciations are, especially Bill. Chris gets dinged for his pronunciations too, but more so for not addressing Bill’s confusing pronunciations that completely derail his stories. I totally lose him when he says “sex guys” and while you’re asking urself what a sex guy is three sentences later, u realize he said “six guys”.
@@DemocracyFirst2025 Bill's brain isn't fully hooked up to his mouth. Lots of befuddled misstatements, maybe it's all the weed he constantly says he smoked in the 90s. Meanwhile I never stopped and - flawless diction.
I mean, OK, but NO actual human being speaks that way, thought out or not. Same goes for all the caricatures in this movie though. That's why it's entertaining, everybody from Pacino to Ashley Judd is this hamfisted stereotype from 90s action central casting
Favorite line for me is when Pacino says: “I have tactical command that supersedes your rank, they will walk away and you will let them. FUCK!” Great acting.
Great line. “It’s because I got to hold on to my angst. I preserve it .. because I need it. It’s keeps me sharp, on the edge; where I gotta be”. Is equal to that one IMO. Pacino was a bad dude in this movie.
FYI, have a close friend actor of mine who worked with Michael Mann's action trainer/military coach MICK GOULD, and to answer to what you're saying about Tom Sizemore, which is a very accurate thing, about why we dont see him that much shooting and all, it;s because Sizemore fucked up pretty bad during the training, pointing gun at Gould, Gould make it sure that Sizemore wont be seen with a loaded. gun anytime soon on the set, which is why Cerrito is always used at the minimal
Horrible scene, imho. Al Pacino's acting in that scene, and many scenes throughout Heat, suits something like Dick Tracy and not Heat's gritty street drama.
Gregory Tyson disagree, he’s the only one who isn’t somewhat wooden in this film. Almost like he has to make up for lack of emotion in this film even though it’s one of my favorite movies
Especially with firearms. Now a days weapons sound like pee shooters, like in John Wick. In Mann’s films he makes sure the weapons are intimidating and bombastic
I love the scene where Pacino is at the young girls murder scene and has the encounter with the girls mother, just holding her and trying to comfort her.
"I'm sorry if the god damned chicken got......over cooked!" Love that writing. He could have been lazy and just put in the word "Cold" but the word cold would imply that it was his fault for being late. But that's not the character, he instead says "overcooked" which puts it back on Justine. just little things like that are why I love this film.
Explain that little detail about no helicopters being at the bank heist?.. lol.. Or why in the world Al Pacino would marry that woman?.. Looked good, sounded good, technically sound for sure.. Story was laughable..
@@jacobjones5269 The police task force watching all members of McCauley's crew were completely taken off watching them the night before (Pacino complains about this). Pacino and his officers don't even know the robbery's is happening until it is fully in progress as they get a late tip. They scramble squad cards and head to the bank hoping to catch them coming out. If they sent helicopters ahead, it would have tipped the robbers off and perhaps blown their chance to get them. The resulting shootout probably would have had helicopters there, but most likely news helicopters. Even if you look up the North Hollywood Shootout that went down in LA in 1997, the helicopter footage is from News helicopters who are not trained to persue. So while I do think you're right, there would have been police helicopters to persue them (The LAPD had about 15 helicopters in it's fleet in 1995), it's not such a glaringly obvious missed detail as it would be in 2022. In fact, the real life North Hollywood shooting completely changed how the LAPD handle armed robberies.
@@steveerl1443 Ok, scramble a fucking helicopter, then.. Look, dude, I’m not stupid, ok.. Professional crews don’t take on people sight unseen, they just don’t do the job.. They don’t take that guy to a full diner to sweat him down, only to try and whack him in the parking lot.. lol.. I don’t need 6 poorly written women characters dragging a bank heist movie into hour 3, I don’t wanna watch LAPD Robbery Homicide get fooled by a missing ponytail.. And I certainly know for a fact, they’re not gonna treat the POS thief wife like a queen, while they constantly harass the guy who fingered her to them.. And hipster Jon Voight was about as fucking laughable a character as I’ve ever seen.. I’m sorry you’re a sucker.. I’m not..
I just watched this movie again and had the exact same thought. Brilliant writing to put the blame back on her with a subtle word choice that I assume many people don't notice or appreciate. I love the movie for so many reasons but things like that are the gems that make a good movie great.
Heat is a masterpiece. So many memorable moments. Neil: I am alone but I am not lonely. Cameos galore. Henry Rollins! Also, Pacino kicking the TV out of the car.
I don't know how "humble" or underrated he's been, but he is awesome. Heat is the best heist movie because it's so much more than a heist movie. It prefigured "The Wire" by setting up parallel families between criminals and cops. It's a stunningly beautiful portrait of a Los Angeles (and U.S.) in steep decline after the Reagan era. It's arguably the first Internet movie-- they get the plans for one of the heists from "the air." A full and total mood. Now I want to see it in the theater again...
@@jasonhill2348 One man's "bloated" is another's "postmodern baroque!" And I'm not talking about his other movies, or "Miami Vice," but this one in particular. And I don't think it's a genre movie-- it's at least three, intersecting and interrupting each other: heist, cop flick, and thriller (Waingro, not the cash, is the ultimate object of desire).
HEAT is now one of the great American films, up there with THE GODFATHER. And it's interesting to see HEAT's ongoing influence in modern commercial films from THE DARK KNIGHT to CAPTAIN AMERICA: WINTER SOLDIER. Like LA CONFIDENTIAL, another weirdly ignored 90s Crime film, only gets better & more important through the years.
Heat isn't ignored, its a cult movie that's become massively popular, it was slept on when it came out, tv and dvd it'd ascended to one of the greatest movies of All time. I went see it in 1995 with two school friends and really liked it, everybody else said it was boring
Best line of the movie for me is Pacino giving the one police guy saying they are not walking...."Thats exactly whats gonna happen "they're gonna WALK"..I have tactical command of this operation which supercedes your rank..THEY ARE GONNA WALK..and you will let them..FUCK!!"..
1990-Goodfellas 1990-The Awakening 1991-CapeFear 1993-A Bronx Tale 1995-Casino 1995-Heat talk about burning up silver screen year after year when cruise, hanks, cage are kissing academy a55es for awards. thats one masterpiece after another. DeNiro got shot outta cannon with THE UNTOUCHABLES (1987).
All that being said... 2 issues, the last robbery the time-line from the phone tip to getting there in time to catch them leaving was shaky and Pacino chasing Deniro at the end was iffy. Bob was wayyy ahead and it was dark and a yuge area and yet Pacino followed him perfectly. Still... 10/10
I have to agree. I never get sick of this movie. Followed by No country for old men and Shawshank Redemption. A multilayered movie. Love the fact 5hat it went deep into the characters interpersonal relationships.
Heat is my favorite movie and this is my favorite line : I'm angry. I'm very angry, Ralph. You know, you can ball my wife if she wants you to. You can lounge around here on her sofa, in her ex-husband's dead-tech, post-modernistic bullshit house if you want to. But you do not get to watch my fucking television set! - Vincent
Quick note. Chris mentions Michael moving across from Waingro at the diner. I read it as watching so that he doesn't try to run off with no one next to him in the booth when Trejo gets up. This makes the moment when he slips away from Neil even more tense in the parking lot. The rat seems completely cornered and still gets away.
Big simmons fan..love alot of the ringers stuff and a huge movie fan. With work and family didnt have time for the Rewatchables (besides Good Will Hunting) but being laid off due to Covid and catching up to some home projects Im now on my 4th one and its making time alot easier. Thanks for the content.
trufiend138 just saw this response what’s more realistic? Consulting Ex con Edward bunker. An actual thief. Weapons training No cgi Best gun audio ever Most aunthentic ex cons ever on screen Perfectly Detailed You didn’t say a movie in your comment What crime movie is more realistic? Goodfellas? Godfather? They’re great. They’re nowhere near the realism of what happens in this movie.
Great analogy Chris I felt the same way! This was an accident and everyone is integral to the story, if Wayne gro doesn't get serato to fink then no movie, if Haysbert(forgot the characters name sorry Dennis) isn't at the coffee shop at that moment no movie, if Voight(again sorry forgot the characters name lol) doesn't ruin everything by telling Neil where Wayngro is then no ending!
Damn. I really want to be a guest on this show. You guys speak my movie language. I have conversations like this on a daily with my friends. It's a shame I just discovered this podcast last week. This is amazing. Thank you for this.
Ted Vandross The best! Just turned my 20 year old son onto it. Loves all the same things about it. Dafoe tells a good story on Inside the Actors..... about printing counterfeit 😊
Damn,I hope so! I like To Live And Die in L.A. better than Heat. I mean,I see the latest Rewatchable is Boomerang. Surely there are thousands of movies they could do that are better than that...
Years ago, when the NHL was about to go through a lockout or strike (I can't remember which), a co-worker asked me, "What are they arguing about?" and I responded, "Not enough steaks in the freezer." He paused for a second and then said, "Is that from 'Heat'?"
When I was in college I had 3 roommates splitting a row house in the city where we went to school. When Heat came out we all saw it together in the theater and had a blast. (I loved Moby at the time too and most of my roomies were annoyed I kept talking about Moby on the way home in that ending scene and how effective is was). So, when the dvd came out my roomie bought it. He owned the entertainment center in the main room with these huge tower speakers. The house we rented had these huge windows that slide up almost from the floor on the first level. So, one summer Saturday we are all upstairs watching the street and James (roomie) says he is gonna do this. He pauses Heat on the final gunfight scene, raises the first floor windows, turns the speakers around and the volume all the way up and presses play. We were upstairs dying laughing as randoms on the street walking by were hitting the deck. It was hilarious.
Among the seeming millions of great parts of the movie that I love, it's in the beginning when Val Kilmer's character turns off the radio before the first robbery that tells me that this movie means business.
I recently saw this movie for the first time, a couple weeks ago. I just fell in love with it! I was blown away by Al Pacino's performance! Like you guys said, he's the engine of this movie. Loved you guys' impressions of the characters. I laughed so hard. I'll definitely watch more of your episodes! "All I am is what I'm going after. One of my favorite lines!
'Fate Scrapes' is one of the best part of the score. It played when Neil McCauley and Nate were on the hill after talking to Kelso and when the crew meet to decide whether to take the bank down
loved the episode and thought I'd throw in a few extra points. surprised the guys didn't mention that Haysbert's boss was Bud Cort famous for Harold and Maude. he was almost unrecognizable since in Harold and Maude he was so young. the Jon Voight character was based on a former con who got into acting. his name was Edward Bunker and his most famous role was Mr. Blue in Reservoir Dogs. when you pull up a pic on IMDB it's pretty obvious Jon Voight's look is from this. loved the call to Kilmer losing a fortune on the Super Bowl and the time frame puts it at Niners vs Chargers. the spread was the highest in SB history at 18 points and if you remember the final score was 49-26 with the Chargers scoring late to close the gap. there was a interception in the end zone that closed out the game or maybe the Chargers cover and Chris would have won big. this is one of my top 5 flicks all time and I could have listened to another couple of hours of this podcast. please do my 2nd all-time favorite Mann movie sometime Manhunter.
It's expanded out to other movies now. So far they've done Last of the Mohicans, All The President's Men and Inherent Vice. One about Zodiac is coming soon.
Those final shots and the ending soundtrack by moby was so perfect. I still get sad over the shit hahaha. Everytime I watch it. Heat is incredible it's hard to put into words it deserves more than "classic". In my opinion it's one of those rare perfect films.
This movie is so F’ing awesome! One of my favorites as well. There’s only so much you can say about the heist scene when the characters are shooting at police in the streets but undoubtedly that is one of the very best scenes in cinema ever. The suspense is absolutely intoxicating and the choreography of that scene is astounding. It’s like John Wick, but much more believable. The whole movie is awesome and the ending is about as good as it gets in movies, when it’s not a Disney-esque storybook ending. It is a bittersweet ending, but it still feels right and the suspense is palpable all the way to the end. This movie is a classic and the performances are as close to perfect as I’ve ever seen in a film for all the actors collectively. This analysis is also mind-blowing. I’ve always wanted to review movies, but I couldn’t cut even close to as deep as these guys. I’m jealous of their ability to analyze film. Nonetheless, great movie and THE BEST heist movie ever. There are many great heist movies, but this easily takes the cake. Michael Mann is probably the most underrated person in the film industry ever and I say that knowing that many film lovers have a deep love and respect for him. It’s all about Christopher Nolan, Scorsese, Tarantino, and Spielberg, but guys like Michael Mann are what make movies so awesome. I obviously love all of those other guys as well, but Mann’s filmmaking style is unique and leaves you with the feeling of “that was awesome”. He’s a complete filmmaker. 10/10 film and while I enjoy many films, I almost never give movies a 10/10. This movie is as deserving as any for the reasons I listed before. I’m really glad I came across this video. “Best heist movie”? Maybe the best ACTION MOVIE ever made.
Every 10 years there is a film where everyone at the height of their powers all show up to just create an elite level film. The Social Network is a great example of this. I don't know where this would rank as I only watched it recently, but holy fuck. I literally have no flaws with this movie.
my recollection when it was first released was it disappointed a lot of people. The Pacino/Deniro thing was over hyped and everyone I knew was disappointed with the diner scene. I also remember how I thought the shoot out was unrealistic. It took a few years to start to appreciate this film fully....I do not remember anyone loving it immediately. I was also a huge THIEF fan and I refused to say HEAT was better than THIEF. Anyway, its one of the best films of the nineties for sure.
rusty wood shootout unrealistic?? Literally the most realistic shootout and movements along with Saving Private Ryan ending. Baffling how u thought that. Glad you like it now.
I think the time period it came out in played into it's early critique. Pulp Fiction had just come out a year earlier and Hollywood seemed to be pushing out multiple crime-drama copycats of that movie. Heat seemed to be more grounded.
So agree with your point about the dissapointment, Rusty. Was just chatting with a friend and, no disrespect to Simmons and Ryan, but totally disagree with their call that the De Niro Pacino meet-up scene is the most memorable. In fact, I would argue it was such a let-down on first watch -- why so many of us went to see the thing in the first place -- that I actually had to rewatch the flick a good few times to have it grow on me and become my fave heist movie ever. I'm okay with the scene now but I think it's everything around it that is so good. The scene itself was not what it was hyped to be.
Chris doesn't ask the guys on the basketball court where he can get some bread.... he asks them if they know if there's any place TO RENT around there. How this could be misheard is beyond me.
About 10 years before this movie was made, I began dreaming of a 4-way faceoff with DeNiro, Pacino, Hoffman, and Keitel. So, Heat, though in retrospect the best of its type ever made, despite the anticipatory excitement, still had a pre-ordained measure of disappointment to overcome, in my mind. And now for 25 years and counting, it's not been settled as to whether it has. I suppose that's why I'm here. Great job, men.
I LOVE Heat, but Michael Mann's best movie is The Insider. There's nothing extraneous in that movie. The acting is pitch perfect, it's Crowe's best performance; it's shot amazingly and even its pickup scenes and framing are perfect.
I agree with that,Insider #1. I love Heat,but I actually prefer Thief to it as well,probably James Caan's best performance,fantastic score by Tangerine Dream and great neon cinematography
Wow, De Niro SUCKS so hard in that movie...repeating himself over and over like the moron he is. What an embarrassment. He ruined the whole movie. He was so nauseating.
Ironically Heat is my 2nd favorite movie ever sandwich in between the first 2 Godfather movies. Part 2 being my favorite movie of all time & part 1 being my 3rd favorite movie of all time
***Deniro has a wife in Goodfellas, she's Mickey Conway. She's in the courtroom scene and she also tells the story early in the film when she hosts the wives at her house about the kid who died in the card game.
You guys missed one of THE best lines from al pacino, when he walks in on his girlfriend and Ralph, and then Ralph says "I should probably go" and Al Pacino says "shutup Ralph, SSSSIITTTTT DOOOWWNNNNN" . That is my personal absolute top line from him in this movie.
Incidentally, the actor that played Ralph (Xander Berkeley) was the only actor to appear in both Heat and L.A. Takedown. In L.A. Takedown, he was the original 'Waingro'.
I always assumed there was a relationship directly in the sorry lines if not a just stylistic connection to collateral, where the colors and names seem so exact it would be silly to think they weren't implying some sort of shared fabric between Vincent from collateral and Neil from Heat
Certainly one of my favourite films as well. You don't even notice the length which is always a good sign for a film. This and Collateral are great Mann films where the crime is incidental. Apart from the amazing cinematography, his films are all essentially about the worklife balance of these guys. It's all about how their personal lives are affected by what they do. Edit: even the names like Wayne Gro or Van Zant (probably got the spelling wrong) are iconic and immediately remind me of this film. Edit: that is actually very true about De Niro not having great chemistry with actresses generally despite being a brilliant actor. Never thought of that before. Travis.. Taxi Driver? 😭
"For me the sun rises and sets with her, man." One of the most underrated lines of that movie.
Chinese Theater Restroom - Standing Ovation . . . . . . True Story. I saw heat at the Chinese Theater in Los Angeles in 1995. 3 Hour Movie. Afterwards the audience rushes to the restrooms. The Chinese Theater men's restroom has a wall of 30+ Urinals. All the men line up, not a word is spoken, just letting it wiz after holding it for 3 hours. In the silence, in this crowd of 50+ men, a lone voice is heard, "Fuck, that was a GREAT Movie!" . . . . Suddenly, the men in unison start banging on the wall, with random voices yelling, "Hell ya, man" - a standing ovation in the Chinese Theater Restroom.
“You can get killed walking your doggie!”
Best crime drama ever made...
Lol
Friend of mine, her son was killed walking his dog. 😮
Just wanted to make a note on a "What aged the worst" subject. You said Justine just rattles off a great speech after she is left at dinner. In the movies defense, consider how long she has been sitting there. Have you ever rehearsed an argument before it happens or thought about what you will say when you see somebody? I have. I find her pre conceived sounding speech is accurate because she has thought about this speech for hours. She is angry and hurt and gone over all the things she wants to tell Vincent whenever he comes back for her. That is my hot take.
Great point.
Also, it is WILD how bad their pronunciations are, especially Bill. Chris gets dinged for his pronunciations too, but more so for not addressing Bill’s confusing pronunciations that completely derail his stories.
I totally lose him when he says “sex guys” and while you’re asking urself what a sex guy is three sentences later, u realize he said “six guys”.
@@DemocracyFirst2025 Bill's brain isn't fully hooked up to his mouth. Lots of befuddled misstatements, maybe it's all the weed he constantly says he smoked in the 90s. Meanwhile I never stopped and - flawless diction.
I mean, OK, but NO actual human being speaks that way, thought out or not. Same goes for all the caricatures in this movie though. That's why it's entertaining, everybody from Pacino to Ashley Judd is this hamfisted stereotype from 90s action central casting
I'd be totally OK if Justine was left out of the movie altogether, it would be a better film.
Heat stole my girlfriend from me, and got her on the right track
Favorite line for me is when Pacino says: “I have tactical command that supersedes your rank, they will walk away and you will let them. FUCK!” Great acting.
Great line.
“It’s because I got to hold on to my angst. I preserve it .. because I need it. It’s keeps me sharp, on the edge; where I gotta be”.
Is equal to that one IMO. Pacino was a bad dude in this movie.
They will Waaallk..and you will let them 😆
@@Snipes-76 I gotta hold on to my angst.
FYI, have a close friend actor of mine who worked with Michael Mann's action trainer/military coach MICK GOULD, and to answer to what you're saying about Tom Sizemore, which is a very accurate thing, about why we dont see him that much shooting and all, it;s because Sizemore fucked up pretty bad during the training, pointing gun at Gould, Gould make it sure that Sizemore wont be seen with a loaded. gun anytime soon on the set, which is why Cerrito is always used at the minimal
This and The Town are the best rewatchables episodes.
Scream episode is hilarious
TopGun
Totally agree! Blood Sport and The Fast and the Furious are great too.
They are the ones who show up in my auto play the most. That and “Wolf Of Wall Street.”
And I listen to the whole thing every time. 😆
My favorite rewatchable episode is the one of Shawshank Redemption... It features Bill's dad,, he's so chill...
1:10:58 Val Kilmer wasn’t wearing Piven’s shirt….DeNiro was
"Cause she's got a GREEAAT ASS!"
That line alone puts Heat in the Mt Rushmore of films.
Horrible scene, imho. Al Pacino's acting in that scene, and many scenes throughout Heat, suits something like Dick Tracy and not Heat's gritty street drama.
Gregory Tyson disagree, he’s the only one who isn’t somewhat wooden in this film. Almost like he has to make up for lack of emotion in this film even though it’s one of my favorite movies
@@gregorytyson995 he's high on coke you have to watch it in that context
@@brgreg8725 agree. He's the only levity in the movie. Without him the movie isn't nearly as entertaining which is the entire point of a movie
JV stuff I think
"the action is the juice."
It should be the juice is the action
I roll with you Neil. Whatever.
Thomas Cousins ‘Not on this one Michael, on this one you’re on your own.’
That's from the movie Heat.
“I’m in. “
Michael Mann has THE BEST sound and sound editing in his movies
Tangerine dream
Especially with firearms. Now a days weapons sound like pee shooters, like in John Wick. In Mann’s films he makes sure the weapons are intimidating and bombastic
His gunshots are the best. They sound loud like real gunshots.
@@lpr5269 Collateral, alley scene, the sound of his gun was PERFECT
The quote I repeat the most is after Tone Loc gives Pacino his information, his reaction is "Well I am...over-fucking-whelmed"
You’re looking to rid yourself of your competition!
I love the scene where Pacino is at the young girls murder scene and has the encounter with the girls mother, just holding her and trying to comfort her.
Great point!
Liking this based entirely on the title
Love this podcast - the best parts are the Pacino imitations by Bill and Chris.
"I'm sorry if the god damned chicken got......over cooked!" Love that writing. He could have been lazy and just put in the word "Cold" but the word cold would imply that it was his fault for being late. But that's not the character, he instead says "overcooked" which puts it back on Justine. just little things like that are why I love this film.
brilliant observation!
Explain that little detail about no helicopters being at the bank heist?.. lol.. Or why in the world Al Pacino would marry that woman?..
Looked good, sounded good, technically sound for sure.. Story was laughable..
@@jacobjones5269 The police task force watching all members of McCauley's crew were completely taken off watching them the night before (Pacino complains about this). Pacino and his officers don't even know the robbery's is happening until it is fully in progress as they get a late tip. They scramble squad cards and head to the bank hoping to catch them coming out.
If they sent helicopters ahead, it would have tipped the robbers off and perhaps blown their chance to get them.
The resulting shootout probably would have had helicopters there, but most likely news helicopters. Even if you look up the North Hollywood Shootout that went down in LA in 1997, the helicopter footage is from News helicopters who are not trained to persue.
So while I do think you're right, there would have been police helicopters to persue them (The LAPD had about 15 helicopters in it's fleet in 1995), it's not such a glaringly obvious missed detail as it would be in 2022. In fact, the real life North Hollywood shooting completely changed how the LAPD handle armed robberies.
@@steveerl1443
Ok, scramble a fucking helicopter, then..
Look, dude, I’m not stupid, ok.. Professional crews don’t take on people sight unseen, they just don’t do the job.. They don’t take that guy to a full diner to sweat him down, only to try and whack him in the parking lot.. lol..
I don’t need 6 poorly written women characters dragging a bank heist movie into hour 3, I don’t wanna watch LAPD Robbery Homicide get fooled by a missing ponytail.. And I certainly know for a fact, they’re not gonna treat the POS thief wife like a queen, while they constantly harass the guy who fingered her to them.. And hipster Jon Voight was about as fucking laughable a character as I’ve ever seen..
I’m sorry you’re a sucker.. I’m not..
I just watched this movie again and had the exact same thought. Brilliant writing to put the blame back on her with a subtle word choice that I assume many people don't notice or appreciate. I love the movie for so many reasons but things like that are the gems that make a good movie great.
It's so good. Just watched it AGAIN in 2024 before seeing this podcast.
The single best thing about this movie was the sound.
No way the sound could’ve and should’ve been better
No the best thing was the free refills
Heat is a masterpiece. So many memorable moments. Neil: I am alone but I am not lonely. Cameos galore. Henry Rollins! Also, Pacino kicking the TV out of the car.
I've been saying that for over a decade and never realized it was from heat lol
Great line neil
Black hat mike Mann j mile and thief great not good but great
Survived a lot of heat and thief
m Mann finally recognized
Michael Mann is a pure humble genius. Maybe the most underrated director.
I don't know how "humble" or underrated he's been, but he is awesome. Heat is the best heist movie because it's so much more than a heist movie. It prefigured "The Wire" by setting up parallel families between criminals and cops. It's a stunningly beautiful portrait of a Los Angeles (and U.S.) in steep decline after the Reagan era. It's arguably the first Internet movie-- they get the plans for one of the heists from "the air." A full and total mood. Now I want to see it in the theater again...
The best
Collateral and HEAT is a great double feature
@@SuperRobertoClementeit’s a bloated piece of work. Mann makes good but not great genre movies. It’s not one of the great heist films
@@jasonhill2348 One man's "bloated" is another's "postmodern baroque!" And I'm not talking about his other movies, or "Miami Vice," but this one in particular. And I don't think it's a genre movie-- it's at least three, intersecting and interrupting each other: heist, cop flick, and thriller (Waingro, not the cash, is the ultimate object of desire).
HEAT is now one of the great American films, up there with THE GODFATHER. And it's interesting to see HEAT's ongoing influence in modern commercial films from THE DARK KNIGHT to CAPTAIN AMERICA: WINTER SOLDIER. Like LA CONFIDENTIAL, another weirdly ignored 90s Crime film, only gets better & more important through the years.
Hahaha. No.
Heat isn't ignored, its a cult movie that's become massively popular, it was slept on when it came out, tv and dvd it'd ascended to one of the greatest movies of All time. I went see it in 1995 with two school friends and really liked it, everybody else said it was boring
Heat is not one of the best heist films. It is the quintessential heist film, and one of the best movies ever. Period
Best line of the movie for me is Pacino giving the one police guy saying they are not walking...."Thats exactly whats gonna happen "they're gonna WALK"..I have tactical command of this operation which supercedes your rank..THEY ARE GONNA WALK..and you will let them..FUCK!!"..
It's absolutely criminal that Heat didn't get any oscar nominations, it's my favourite movie by far, the whole movie from start to finish is perfect
Hahaha. It’s horrible. I laughed my ass off the whole time.
agree, it looks GREAT but it's laughable, especially Pacino's performance. Im sure it all made more sense in 95
@@DJTomOke The back story was that Pacino's character did coke so that's why he was so crazy but they didn't show it in the movie.
this is a Fermentation process
Incubation
takes many years to PROVE Excellence
and the Void around it...
might want to check your pulse, film is comedic@@EyeTunz
I hope this podcast stuff works out for you fellas so you can afford some indoor heating.
For me, it's more about re-heating some delicious leftovers.
Vanzant wants his bonds back. He’s a major drug money mover but he’s chillin 😎
They could at least invest in a mobile heater 😂
The bank heist shootout is so memorable due to the sound, it’s so visceral and loud it makes you want to dive for cover
What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone. ⚒
Irons! ⚒️
1990-Goodfellas
1990-The Awakening
1991-CapeFear
1993-A Bronx Tale
1995-Casino
1995-Heat
talk about burning up silver screen year after year when cruise, hanks, cage are kissing academy a55es for awards. thats one masterpiece after another. DeNiro got shot outta cannon with THE UNTOUCHABLES (1987).
You mean ‘Awakenings’.
De Niro sucks.
Couldn’t agree more
I laughed for about 30 minutes at the idea of Val Kilmer betting against Steve Young’s 49’s to lose all the steaks in the freezer.
He was just one Stan Humphries miracle away from being able to give up his life of crime.
This is hilarious! I love Heat as much as these two. How about when Trejo says nonchalantly “Yeah, sure” when asked if he’s in on the bank job.
December 1995. I remember watching Heat. Casino and Nixon. 3 long movies that I really enjoyed
This is the best of the series. Bill and Chris love this movie
Heat is beyond a classic... so good. GIMME ALL YA GOT !!!!
All that being said... 2 issues, the last robbery the time-line from the phone tip to getting there in time to catch them leaving was shaky and Pacino chasing Deniro at the end was iffy. Bob was wayyy ahead and it was dark and a yuge area and yet Pacino followed him perfectly. Still... 10/10
Never thought about the SLICK theory.. def horse shit.
I have to agree. I never get sick of this movie. Followed by No country for old men and Shawshank Redemption. A multilayered movie. Love the fact 5hat it went deep into the characters interpersonal relationships.
Val Kilmer should’ve won supporting actor. Military and law enforcement rave about his technical skills in the gun scenes.
Bill and Chris...don't ever break up. Ok?
Keep producing content together and put it out there when youre 80.
They need to be able walk out on each other in 30 seconds flat if they feel the heat around the corner
@@jonastronaut2942 lmao
Heat is my favorite movie and this is my favorite line
: I'm angry. I'm very angry, Ralph. You know, you can ball my wife if she wants you to. You can lounge around here on her sofa, in her ex-husband's dead-tech, post-modernistic bullshit house if you want to. But you do not get to watch my fucking television set! - Vincent
Shut up Ralph...SIT DOWN!
He was OK with the balling of his wife, but watching his television was the last straw.
heat and collateral are my 1 and 2. id love to see you two go in depth on collateral.
They did Collateral last year in August.
@@woodside4life thank you i will look it up
Both are great movies with really boring endings
What the fuck are you still doing driving a cab?
Correction - Heat is the greatest movie of all time, period.
Totally agreed. A mystery why it was ignored by the Oscars
Quick note. Chris mentions Michael moving across from Waingro at the diner. I read it as watching so that he doesn't try to run off with no one next to him in the booth when Trejo gets up. This makes the moment when he slips away from Neil even more tense in the parking lot. The rat seems completely cornered and still gets away.
I think you're right, good call-
What I don’t get is that it looks like he’s leaning on the table, but he’s not next to it?
Big simmons fan..love alot of the ringers stuff and a huge movie fan. With work and family didnt have time for the Rewatchables (besides Good Will Hunting) but being laid off due to Covid and catching up to some home projects Im now on my 4th one and its making time alot easier.
Thanks for the content.
Director
Writing
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Cinematography
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No Oscar noms.
2 hours 50 minutes
The most realistic crime movie ever made
Ya i agree and possibly Deniro for acting, he didn't play a character like that before Heat
trufiend138 just saw this response
what’s more realistic?
Consulting Ex con Edward bunker. An actual thief.
Weapons training
No cgi
Best gun audio ever
Most aunthentic ex cons ever on screen
Perfectly Detailed
You didn’t say a movie in your comment
What crime movie is more realistic?
Goodfellas?
Godfather?
They’re great. They’re nowhere near the realism of what happens in this movie.
trufiend138 also I’m 29
Interesting to learn that Heat is a remake of L.A. Takedown, a TV movie directed by Michael Mann in '89
Asphalt Jungle, Rififi, The Killing, Bob le Flambeur, Le Cercle Rouge, Peckinpah's The Getaway etc...
Great analogy Chris I felt the same way! This was an accident and everyone is integral to the story, if Wayne gro doesn't get serato to fink then no movie, if Haysbert(forgot the characters name sorry Dennis) isn't at the coffee shop at that moment no movie, if Voight(again sorry forgot the characters name lol) doesn't ruin everything by telling Neil where Wayngro is then no ending!
Seen Heat over 75 times!! And just getting started. Now that Mr Mann is making his novel, Heat 2 into a movie, should be interesting to see
FIght Club, 8 mile, 25th Hour, super bad or knocked up, everybody wants some. Lots of great options still on the board.
Damn. I really want to be a guest on this show. You guys speak my movie language. I have conversations like this on a daily with my friends. It's a shame I just discovered this podcast last week. This is amazing. Thank you for this.
It's pretty great, I love these guys. Especially Chris, he's really the star
If this is your favourite film, then surely you can do a rewatchable of my favourite film which is a mad pre cursor to Heat: To Live And Die In LA
Ted Vandross The best! Just turned my 20 year old son onto it. Loves all the same things about it. Dafoe tells a good story on Inside the Actors..... about printing counterfeit 😊
Damn,I hope so! I like To Live And Die in L.A. better than Heat. I mean,I see the latest Rewatchable is Boomerang. Surely there are thousands of movies they could do that are better than that...
To Live and Die in LA is incredible! One of my favorites.
Do you know that the boss from the diner is Bud Cort from “Harold & Maude”!
Years ago, when the NHL was about to go through a lockout or strike (I can't remember which), a co-worker asked me, "What are they arguing about?" and I responded, "Not enough steaks in the freezer." He paused for a second and then said, "Is that from 'Heat'?"
I’ve always liked the scene with Al Pacino and tone loc....slick
When I was in college I had 3 roommates splitting a row house in the city where we went to school. When Heat came out we all saw it together in the theater and had a blast. (I loved Moby at the time too and most of my roomies were annoyed I kept talking about Moby on the way home in that ending scene and how effective is was). So, when the dvd came out my roomie bought it. He owned the entertainment center in the main room with these huge tower speakers. The house we rented had these huge windows that slide up almost from the floor on the first level. So, one summer Saturday we are all upstairs watching the street and James (roomie) says he is gonna do this. He pauses Heat on the final gunfight scene, raises the first floor windows, turns the speakers around and the volume all the way up and presses play. We were upstairs dying laughing as randoms on the street walking by were hitting the deck. It was hilarious.
Discussing my favorite movie of all time in detail?! Yup, you got yourself a subscriber. Appreciate y'all. 🙌🏾🙏🏾
Among the seeming millions of great parts of the movie that I love, it's in the beginning when Val Kilmer's character turns off the radio before the first robbery that tells me that this movie means business.
I recently saw this movie for the first time, a couple weeks ago. I just fell in love with it! I was blown away by Al Pacino's performance! Like you guys said, he's the engine of this movie. Loved you guys' impressions of the characters. I laughed so hard. I'll definitely watch more of your episodes! "All I am is what I'm going after. One of my favorite lines!
'Fate Scrapes' is one of the best part of the score. It played when Neil McCauley and Nate were on the hill after talking to Kelso and when the crew meet to decide whether to take the bank down
You can ALMOST take "Heist" out, and just say "greatest movie ever". It's in my top 5 all time for sure... of ANY genre.
R.I.P. Tom Sizemore
Just found this channel while searching for the Heat Making of! You guys are great!
"I don't know why Edie doesn't have a boyfriend."
-Heat deep thoughts
loved the episode and thought I'd throw in a few extra points. surprised the guys didn't mention that Haysbert's boss was Bud Cort famous for Harold and Maude. he was almost unrecognizable since in Harold and Maude he was so young. the Jon Voight character was based on a former con who got into acting. his name was Edward Bunker and his most famous role was Mr. Blue in Reservoir Dogs. when you pull up a pic on IMDB it's pretty obvious Jon Voight's look is from this. loved the call to Kilmer losing a fortune on the Super Bowl and the time frame puts it at Niners vs Chargers. the spread was the highest in SB history at 18 points and if you remember the final score was 49-26 with the Chargers scoring late to close the gap. there was a interception in the end zone that closed out the game or maybe the Chargers cover and Chris would have won big. this is one of my top 5 flicks all time and I could have listened to another couple of hours of this podcast. please do my 2nd all-time favorite Mann movie sometime Manhunter.
Pacino should have been nominated for Heat.
Thanks Mom
No kidding
Check out the podcast "One Heat Minute" where each episode breaks down each minute of Heat. Michael Mann even joins them for the last episode
It's expanded out to other movies now. So far they've done Last of the Mohicans, All The President's Men and Inherent Vice. One about Zodiac is coming soon.
They mentioned it in 8:25
Watched Heat again after a few years. Wow . so glad this is here to take it in to a greater extent
Totally down with your observation of deniro and Lewis in cape fear 😂
Best quotes: "leave the bank book and the car keys in the kitchen on your way out!"
Those final shots and the ending soundtrack by moby was so perfect. I still get sad over the shit hahaha. Everytime I watch it. Heat is incredible it's hard to put into words it deserves more than "classic". In my opinion it's one of those rare perfect films.
This movie is so F’ing awesome! One of my favorites as well. There’s only so much you can say about the heist scene when the characters are shooting at police in the streets but undoubtedly that is one of the very best scenes in cinema ever. The suspense is absolutely intoxicating and the choreography of that scene is astounding. It’s like John Wick, but much more believable. The whole movie is awesome and the ending is about as good as it gets in movies, when it’s not a Disney-esque storybook ending. It is a bittersweet ending, but it still feels right and the suspense is palpable all the way to the end. This movie is a classic and the performances are as close to perfect as I’ve ever seen in a film for all the actors collectively. This analysis is also mind-blowing. I’ve always wanted to review movies, but I couldn’t cut even close to as deep as these guys. I’m jealous of their ability to analyze film. Nonetheless, great movie and THE BEST heist movie ever. There are many great heist movies, but this easily takes the cake. Michael Mann is probably the most underrated person in the film industry ever and I say that knowing that many film lovers have a deep love and respect for him. It’s all about Christopher Nolan, Scorsese, Tarantino, and Spielberg, but guys like Michael Mann are what make movies so awesome. I obviously love all of those other guys as well, but Mann’s filmmaking style is unique and leaves you with the feeling of “that was awesome”. He’s a complete filmmaker. 10/10 film and while I enjoy many films, I almost never give movies a 10/10. This movie is as deserving as any for the reasons I listed before. I’m really glad I came across this video. “Best heist movie”? Maybe the best ACTION MOVIE ever made.
Every 10 years there is a film where everyone at the height of their powers all show up to just create an elite level film. The Social Network is a great example of this. I don't know where this would rank as I only watched it recently, but holy fuck. I literally have no flaws with this movie.
There wouldn't be a GTA without Heat. Most popular game of all time. No mention :/
my recollection when it was first released was it disappointed a lot of people. The Pacino/Deniro thing was over hyped and everyone I knew was disappointed with the diner scene. I also remember how I thought the shoot out was unrealistic. It took a few years to start to appreciate this film fully....I do not remember anyone loving it immediately. I was also a huge THIEF fan and I refused to say HEAT was better than THIEF. Anyway, its one of the best films of the nineties for sure.
rusty wood shootout unrealistic??
Literally the most realistic shootout and movements along with Saving Private Ryan ending. Baffling how u thought that.
Glad you like it now.
I think the time period it came out in played into it's early critique. Pulp Fiction had just come out a year earlier and Hollywood seemed to be pushing out multiple crime-drama copycats of that movie. Heat seemed to be more grounded.
So agree with your point about the dissapointment, Rusty. Was just chatting with a friend and, no disrespect to Simmons and Ryan, but totally disagree with their call that the De Niro Pacino meet-up scene is the most memorable. In fact, I would argue it was such a let-down on first watch -- why so many of us went to see the thing in the first place -- that I actually had to rewatch the flick a good few times to have it grow on me and become my fave heist movie ever. I'm okay with the scene now but I think it's everything around it that is so good. The scene itself was not what it was hyped to be.
Anchorman, Pulp Fiction, Terminator 2, Predator, Coming to America, The Matrix, Superbad, Ferris Bueller, etc.
Terminator 2 is pure fire.
Chris doesn't ask the guys on the basketball court where he can get some bread.... he asks them if they know if there's any place TO RENT around there. How this could be misheard is beyond me.
Yeah these guys always get the dialogues wrong.
About 10 years before this movie was made, I began dreaming of a 4-way faceoff with DeNiro, Pacino, Hoffman, and Keitel. So, Heat, though in retrospect the best of its type ever made, despite the anticipatory excitement, still had a pre-ordained measure of disappointment to overcome, in my mind. And now for 25 years and counting, it's not been settled as to whether it has. I suppose that's why I'm here. Great job, men.
Pacino is my favorite actor. Having said that, he's so ridiculously over the top in this movie
But in a very very VERY good way.
Absolute Genius! Heat is THE ONE!
I've never seen any of those other movies from the Oscars that year. Not even Braveheart. The movies I love don't necessarily make the Oscar's list.
Knowing Tarantino is listening makes this pod ever. Just knowing he wants to jump in with like 50 things on every single line.
Wait wtf, he does?
Tom was getting older then
You do a caper and get pulled over and nobody has I’d your hearts like pounding still feeling it today fifty years ago
No to the question about catching him
That ass part sucks separates bob and Al
No doubt; phenomenal movie. I would argue that Mann's "Last of the Mohicans" eclipses this in terms of being "rewatchable".
In the diner scene, Michael gets up and sits at the counter to not make it obvious that he needed to get up so Neil could sit next to Weingro.
THE TOWN!.. that's a great comparable bank heist film
The best movie of all time period. .
HEAT is absolutely one of the greatest movies ever made! My favorite action/crime film second only to 'DIE HARD'!
I LOVE Heat, but Michael Mann's best movie is The Insider. There's nothing extraneous in that movie. The acting is pitch perfect, it's Crowe's best performance; it's shot amazingly and even its pickup scenes and framing are perfect.
I agree with that,Insider #1. I love Heat,but I actually prefer Thief to it as well,probably James Caan's best performance,fantastic score by Tangerine Dream and great neon cinematography
Pacino was fabulous in The Insider. I think I also enjoy that movie more than Heat.
One of the greatest movies ever made ❤️ 🙌
Mann's 2022 novel "Heat 2" is such a great prequel and sequel to the movie!
If you haven’t done De Niro’s Ronin you need to do that
It has legit De Niro Natasha mchelone chemistry and the best car chase ever.
Ronin is epic
I need to see this
@@JudgeDredd_ along with the rock it is the best action film of the 90s that isn’t a Jackie Chan film
Wow, De Niro SUCKS so hard in that movie...repeating himself over and over like the moron he is. What an embarrassment. He ruined the whole movie. He was so nauseating.
This was THE best rewatchables
I guess I gotta be the guy...its not "Jump Around" that plays in the club.
Ironically Heat is my 2nd favorite movie ever sandwich in between the first 2 Godfather movies. Part 2 being my favorite movie of all time & part 1 being my 3rd favorite movie of all time
I always remember the commercial for DVD as a format showed the clip of the getaway car being shot over the "the sound is infinitely clearer" bit.
***Deniro has a wife in Goodfellas, she's Mickey Conway. She's in the courtroom scene and she also tells the story early in the film when she hosts the wives at her house about the kid who died in the card game.
I saw Heat four times at the cinema while I was living in London.
Ya'll missed how Eady dropped "I've seen you in the store a couple times" she definitely been scoping out Neil for a while lol
The GREAT ASS scene was also crazy as well lol he could have been coked up for that one
You guys missed one of THE best lines from al pacino, when he walks in on his girlfriend and Ralph, and then Ralph says "I should probably go" and Al Pacino says "shutup Ralph, SSSSIITTTTT DOOOWWNNNNN" . That is my personal absolute top line from him in this movie.
Incidentally, the actor that played Ralph (Xander Berkeley) was the only actor to appear in both Heat and L.A. Takedown. In L.A. Takedown, he was the original 'Waingro'.
I always assumed there was a relationship directly in the sorry lines if not a just stylistic connection to collateral, where the colors and names seem so exact it would be silly to think they weren't implying some sort of shared fabric between Vincent from collateral and Neil from Heat
Saw heat in 1995 in granada hills and walked out of the theater saying, thats the greatest movie I've ever seen and I'm a movie buff
Certainly one of my favourite films as well. You don't even notice the length which is always a good sign for a film. This and Collateral are great Mann films where the crime is incidental. Apart from the amazing cinematography, his films are all essentially about the worklife balance of these guys. It's all about how their personal lives are affected by what they do.
Edit: even the names like Wayne Gro or Van Zant (probably got the spelling wrong) are iconic and immediately remind me of this film.
Edit: that is actually very true about De Niro not having great chemistry with actresses generally despite being a brilliant actor. Never thought of that before. Travis.. Taxi Driver? 😭
DeNiro is the ultimate men’s man
Heat is in my perfect movie list, but it was never gonna beat Braveheart , another perfect movie.