Thank you so much for making this video! We just had our Jane Magnolia planted 3 weeks ago and noticed ants crawling all over it. When we asked the landscaper about it he said it must have been infected after it was planted as it was inspected before they purchased it. I honestly have my doubts, but at least now I know what to get to treat it.
Thanks for watching. Most reputable growers will check their trees regularly for scale and other insects. That being said, it can be hard to see scale, especially on younger trees. One thing to note is that scale has a multi-year lifecycle. The white scales will pop open on an infected tree in fall, crawlers will emerge and feed on the infected tree and potentially travel to nearby trees, then the crawlers will feed enough until they mature, create a scale, and repeat the cycle next year. With this in mind, if your tree was planted 3 weeks ago, and you have visible, mature, adult scales on the tree, they would have to have been on the tree since Fall of 2023 (previous year cycle). If the infestation is not too bad, you could try contacting your landscaper and see if they are willing to supply you with Systemic Insect Spray by Bonide (or similar brand Imidacloprid Leaf Spray), to spray on the tree this fall and protect the infestation from getting worse. If it is a more severe infestation, and the tree was just planted a few weeks ago, I would contact your landscaper and ask for a replacement, since newly planted trees should not have scale.
Great question - the insects' life cycle spray timings will most likely start a week or two earlier, especially in a warmer year like this one has been, in a zone 6b area.
I just began with the ground-level treatment and I would like to do step 2 and spray the crawlers in late August/Sept. but our magnolia tree is about 30 feet tall! I think I caught this scale in year one or two so the branches are not severe yet but I think spraying the crawlers will be important and I can only reach the lower branches even with a ladder. I live in NH and cannot find any companies to spray the tree canopy for me. Our tree seems otherwise healthy but I am seeing stress on some of the leaves now. I'm so sad this is happening. We just moved into our home 2 years ago and we are doing our best to care for this tree.
If you can't spray the whole tree, try to spray what you can. If it is not a severe infestation, spraying any crawlers on the lower branches should be somewhat helpful to the tree. Your best option with a tree that tall is to make sure you apply the drench on time each year. The drench (ground-level treatment) is best applied in spring / early summer, so that it has time to take effect and traverse the way throughout the entire way.
I know our magnolia has had scale previously (and has been treated), but can you tell me if the scale causes the leaves to turn brown and fall from the tree prematurely? It seems that soon after our tree leafs up for the season, I have brown leaves falling on the lawn below.
The magnolia scale insect produce a byproduct that can turn leaves black. Their damage from sucking the nutrients out of trees could cause leaves to turn brown as well. I recommend continuing to treat the tree with the 3 step process if you are still seeing visible scales, as well as adding BioPak Stress Relief fertilizer into your care regimen. www.wasconursery.com/product/biopak-plus-stress-relief-fertilizer/
Thanks for the video. If the limbs look dead, should we cut them off? I have left my tree untreated for too long and I think it's got some death to it.
Thanks for watching! If the limbs have had no leaves on them, you can prune them off. If they had leaves this spring, but lost them, scratch the bark gently to see if there is still green. If so, leave the branch on until next spring, and see if it leafs out then.
Great video with clear and to the point info, thanks. Am going to start with the Annual drench right away and since it's almost late august, will also spray the systemic to kill crawlers maybe a week later.
Thanks for watching! I would try to order the spray soon, because the crawler stage might come early this year due to the heat and humidity. The drench would be good to apply now.
What step would you recommend starting with now, in mid-late September? Or should I wait until spring and begin from there? I wiped off any many white clusters as I could reach on my Tripetela but they go higher than I can reach.
Great question! The Annual Tree & Shrub Drench can still be applied now: www.wasconursery.com/product/annual-tree-shrub-drench/ The Dormant Oil can be applied during the winter, and then you can spray for crawlers next year (starting in mid-late summer).
Exactly what I needed to know for my 20 year old Magnolia. Does it make sense to do the drench now on August 25th? Or just do the spray now and drench in the spring?
It would be best to spray the tree, if you see the crawlers on it. If you do not see crawlers, I recommend waiting until Winter to apply the Dormant Spray, then starting the cycle in the spring once the tree starts to leaf out.
Thanks! Exactly what my Magnolia tree has. Just found this video..hope I can save this old tree. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to send a picture of it
Thanks for posting this video and for continuing to respond to everyone’s questions! My saucer magnolia has many branches exactly like the one in your video, so it appears to be a severe problem. I want to do the systemic drench but I’m concerned how it might affect a very healthy, beautiful, and blooming hydrangea, which is planted directly in front of the magnolia. Could the systemic drench harm the hydrangea?
You're welcome! We are always happy to help. If your saucer has several branches that look like the ones in the video, it will need to be treated asap this year. The drench can be applied now, and the spray can be applied when the crawlers hatch and start feeding (Late August for Northern IL). Neither of these products will harm the health of the hydrangea. If it is a fertile-flowered hydrangea (i.e. Lacecap Smooth Hydrangea or Oakleaf), I recommend removing the blooms, to avoid affecting pollinator populations. If it is a mostly sterile-flowered hydrangea (i.e. Bloomstruck, Incrediball, or any others that ONLY have "showy" petals) then there is no need to remove blooms, since pollinators will not visit that plant heavily.
Thank you very much for your great informative video! Can you please let me the products details that you are showing in your video. The brand name of the product. I am in Canada, so I can try to source it online. Thank you.
Thanks, we have the scale! I applied the systemic drench a month ago (July). Would insecticidal soap work on the crawler nymphs? I have a large tree. Spraying means a lot drips down, sometimes on me. If the soap is just marginally effective, I will need to find a way to spray the insecticide. What do you think?
I have what looks exactly like that along the branches of my willow cherry tree. I've been told it's scale by an arborist and coop extension master gardener. Can the scale on the magnolia be on other types of trees? And, will the insects that cause scale damage the plants around them? Thank you, Sue
There are many different types of Scale Insects. Magnolia Scale targets only Magnolia Trees. You may have a different type of scale on your tree. The treatment is fairly similar for most scale insects, the main difference is the timing of the "contact insecticide" will differ depending on what time of year the "crawler" stage is.
Great video! My large magnolia that is over 20 years old and is well over 20 feet tall, has this same problem. I hope to have my tree checked out by a company that specializes in tree maintenance. One question I have though is that the tree also needs to be pruned. Is it best to wait until the Spring to do this or can it be done in Sept or October? Will the insect scale enter the areas that are pruned and weaken it further? I’m in NW Illinois, Zone 5. Thank you for any advice you can provide.
Sorry for the slow reply, for some reason some comments were hidden from me on youtube. The trimming will not impact the insect activity so no need to worry.
I didn't find it any store here in Canada last year 2020...Is it available this year 2021 in Canada? Could you please mention what else I could use to remove scales from my beautiful Magnolia tree?
this video was excellent. It described precisely the problem with our Star Magnolia bush. I couldn't find the exact root treatment recommended in the video. But i applied this: BioAdvanced 12 Month Tree and Shrub Protect & Feed Concentrate I hope it works as well.
Thanks for watching! BioAdvanced's product contains the same active ingredient as the one mentioned in the video. We recommend a 3 step approach for heavy infestations, using the products (or similar ones) in our Magnolia Scale Bundle: www.wasconursery.com/product/magnolia-scale-treatment-bundle/ As per the video, we are about to come up on the "Crawler Stage" of the insect's life cycle. If it is able to be sprayed, you will want to spray it with Bonide's Systemic Spray in Late August, Mid September and Late September.
Hey Jonathan, Connecticut has fairly similar growing conditions to ours here in Illinois. The pest's timing should be about the same. You can apply a systemic drench at any time in the Spring as a preventative, otherwise you will want to try and get them during their crawler stage toward the end of summer and into early fall. Here is a link for more info: www.wasconursery.com/plant-issues/magnolia-scale-treatment/
I also found out your video today, November 2. My young magnolia Suzan had few dead brunches. Other brunches leaves are still intact however some are yellow and seen black dots on green leaves. There were white dots all over the brunch, tried remove with my finger however didn’t seems coming off. Not sure they are young scale. Shall I pour tree and shrub insect control around root area now? Or shall I wait till early spring? I live northern suburb of chicago.
Should I scrape off any of the adult scales of my fairly small magnolia? I am planning to buy the tree and shrub insecticide at the base now in September. Is it necessary to prune any branches. I really don’t want to cut too many branches off since the tree is only 2 years old.
Pruning and scraping off *DEAD* Adult Scales is not necessary. If you are able to scrape off the living scales without damaging the tree, then you should do so. Doing the systemic drench during the early spring (after leaves come out), will be one of the best things you can do. If your infestation is very bad, I recommend following our full 3-step method in 2024.
There is not - you'd just have to rely on the other two (the dormant spray and then spray the crawlers during August / September ... check the timing for your area as well).
Hello, Thank you for this video. What time of the year should I give the liquid one, the one I am going to pour in the bucket and give to the roots? Any time?
yes, any time during the growing season. As long as the ground is not frozen or saturated. Keep in mind it takes 4-8 weeks for the tree to take up that chemical.
Currently have this on our magnolia tree and have noticed increased bees and flies to the tree now! Is there anything we can spray now to help since some of these treatments aren't recommend until Aug/ September?
Great question! The Bonide Systemic Drench can be applied now. The Bonide Insect Spray does not get applied until Late August, Mid September, and Late September.
@@WascoNursery okay thanks! can I spray anything on the tree to help with the flies and bee problem though or do I have to deal with them until Aug/September? Or will the root treatment help with the flies?
@wasconursery We have the same thing with flies and bees. So many!! Anything we can spray to get rid of them after we French and before end of august for the crawler spray?
@@indiaasmuth546 The bees / flies will not really be treated by the drench. You could try cleaning the sap off, just make sure to not use any chemicals that can damage the bark (i.e. use warm soapy water).
@@eringawlick8772 You could try cleaning the sap off with warm soapy water, or try using fly paper. The drench won't do anything for the bees or flies, unfortunately.
OK, I know I need to get tomorrow. But will the spray or the disease affect other flowers that are around my tree I noticed the black onmy mum leaves like you had stated.
@@WascoNursery I hope I am not bothering you but once again I just received my tree and shrub insect control the one that you said to use first you use with the watering can. I understand how to do it but my question is we just had a massive rainfall up to 3 inches so the ground is really really wet , I don’t know if I should wait. If anyone has an answer, I ordered all three though just like the videos tells us.
Thats great, i'm glad to hear! Acephate applied during the crawler phase (Late August - September) is definetly effective against scale. We recommend Bonide Systemic Spray, since it is easier to apply (comes in hose-hookup bottle), but we also carry Acephate in a concentrate. Both products are equally effective, when applied at the correct time of year.
Bought a gallon of the Bonide drench to apply now, Sept. 9, since I didn’t see any crawlers. Per the instructions, it states to measure the circumference of the tree at chest height or about 4.5 feet up from the soil. We are to mix 1oz of drench for each inch of circumference to 1 gallon of water. Here’s the issue; our magnolia tree separates into 6 different trunks at about 2 feet up from the soil, so I am not sure how to determine the appropriate ratios of drench(ounces) vs. water. I don’t want to over apply or under apply the product. FYI: the circumference of the tree at 2 feet up, before it splits into the 6 different trunks, was 84 inches. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Great question! If you have a multi-trunked magnolia, the best way to figure out how much to apply is to find the circumference or diameter (whichever is easiest) of each trunk and then add them together. For example, if you have 5 trunks on your magnolia that are all 5" diameter or ~15" circumference, you would add them together and dilute the appropriate amount per the label instructions, based on a 25" diameter tree (or 78" circumference). Make sure to measure each of the trunks individually, rather than wrapping a tape measure around all of the trunks at once.
Just found scale on my.magnolia today and found your video. I just ordered the drench product, but was wondering in the meantime what is the best way ti deal with the honeydew. The tree is near my house and mostly above concrete, don't want the mildew and the ants; do I just periodically spray with hose to wash?
Thanks @WascoNursery looks like the drench was pretty effective. I'm about to go to step 2 for the crawlers, but have some concerns because the magnolia hangs over the house, and there are other shrubs and bushes underneath the magnolia. Reading the description for the spray it says it will not wash off in the rain once dried(which sounds great for the magnolia but not so much for the roof on the garage or the shrubs) Should I use another product or will the spray be okay to apply?
I kept seeing a gazillion flies. Bees and wasp were in the grass but no clover, my doorbell camera was constantly detecting bees or wasps or birds trying to eat them. So I thought: What in the National Geographic is going on?! More flies, bees and wasp were all over my tulip magnolia! The tree is near covered in these bumps, which thanks to your video I now know is definitely, scale.
Drenches will take a few week to work their way all throughout the plant, so it should start to be effective soon. In the winter or spring, you should be able to remove some of the dead scale using a scrub brush.
@@ffbeardedprince8693 You can call in or stop by to pick up the products. If you would like them shipped to you, we can do that for certain products if you call in to our main phone number: 630.584.4424
No. It didn't work for me at all. I've used several different types and brands of neem oil and yes, made sure to even get the pure cold pressed oil to no avail. However, you may have luck where I didn't. Just letting you know my opinion and experience. If your tree is heavily infested and affected. I wouldn't waste time, money, or put the tree thru anymore stress by testing out several ineffective "organic treatments." As by the time you find something that helps the tree could be dead. A good systemic insecticide will save your tree without harming the life and environment around. I try to be as organic as possible, and hardly ever use chemicals. As organic methods work fine for prevention along with hard work. But when it comes to established infestation, or serious infection I would weigh the life of my trees to be worth the use of a more heavy treatment.
“Use THIS now”. “Use this in the fall.” Ok fine BUT WHAT exactly is “this” or “that”? You don’t state the exact of the manufacture along with the active ingredient within the chemical. Is this not basic info for someone looking to fight this type infestation? I thought that info would have been a given to include within a video on dealing with this scale
The products referenced are manufactured by Bonide. The names of the products are given (starting at 2:52) and easy to read. However, here's a handout as well. www.wasconursery.com/plant-issues/magnolia-scale-treatment/
Hit my magnolia three with 2 of the three earlier in the year,,, just about ready to use systemic insect spray here in late august and again twice in a months time,,, hope this does it and nukes the scale out of my magnolia tree (From southern California.)
EXACTLY what I am going through. Thank you for making this video!
You're Welcome!!
Super helpful video! My star magnolia in IL has this; its rather devastating to discover. Your video gives me hope!
I'm so glad!
Thank you so much for making this video! We just had our Jane Magnolia planted 3 weeks ago and noticed ants crawling all over it. When we asked the landscaper about it he said it must have been infected after it was planted as it was inspected before they purchased it. I honestly have my doubts, but at least now I know what to get to treat it.
Thanks for watching. Most reputable growers will check their trees regularly for scale and other insects. That being said, it can be hard to see scale, especially on younger trees.
One thing to note is that scale has a multi-year lifecycle. The white scales will pop open on an infected tree in fall, crawlers will emerge and feed on the infected tree and potentially travel to nearby trees, then the crawlers will feed enough until they mature, create a scale, and repeat the cycle next year.
With this in mind, if your tree was planted 3 weeks ago, and you have visible, mature, adult scales on the tree, they would have to have been on the tree since Fall of 2023 (previous year cycle). If the infestation is not too bad, you could try contacting your landscaper and see if they are willing to supply you with Systemic Insect Spray by Bonide (or similar brand Imidacloprid Leaf Spray), to spray on the tree this fall and protect the infestation from getting worse.
If it is a more severe infestation, and the tree was just planted a few weeks ago, I would contact your landscaper and ask for a replacement, since newly planted trees should not have scale.
thank you so much! We are in New York Zone 6b - would our months for treatment be about the same as you have described for IL?
Great question - the insects' life cycle spray timings will most likely start a week or two earlier, especially in a warmer year like this one has been, in a zone 6b area.
I just began with the ground-level treatment and I would like to do step 2 and spray the crawlers in late August/Sept. but our magnolia tree is about 30 feet tall! I think I caught this scale in year one or two so the branches are not severe yet but I think spraying the crawlers will be important and I can only reach the lower branches even with a ladder. I live in NH and cannot find any companies to spray the tree canopy for me. Our tree seems otherwise healthy but I am seeing stress on some of the leaves now. I'm so sad this is happening. We just moved into our home 2 years ago and we are doing our best to care for this tree.
If you can't spray the whole tree, try to spray what you can. If it is not a severe infestation, spraying any crawlers on the lower branches should be somewhat helpful to the tree.
Your best option with a tree that tall is to make sure you apply the drench on time each year. The drench (ground-level treatment) is best applied in spring / early summer, so that it has time to take effect and traverse the way throughout the entire way.
Thanks for the info! We have this right now. Didn’t know we could do something now for it!
Glad we could help!
I know our magnolia has had scale previously (and has been treated), but can you tell me if the scale causes the leaves to turn brown and fall from the tree prematurely? It seems that soon after our tree leafs up for the season, I have brown leaves falling on the lawn below.
The magnolia scale insect produce a byproduct that can turn leaves black. Their damage from sucking the nutrients out of trees could cause leaves to turn brown as well.
I recommend continuing to treat the tree with the 3 step process if you are still seeing visible scales, as well as adding BioPak Stress Relief fertilizer into your care regimen.
www.wasconursery.com/product/biopak-plus-stress-relief-fertilizer/
Thanks for the video. If the limbs look dead, should we cut them off? I have left my tree untreated for too long and I think it's got some death to it.
Thanks for watching! If the limbs have had no leaves on them, you can prune them off. If they had leaves this spring, but lost them, scratch the bark gently to see if there is still green. If so, leave the branch on until next spring, and see if it leafs out then.
Great video with clear and to the point info, thanks. Am going to start with the Annual drench right away and since it's almost late august, will also spray the systemic to kill crawlers maybe a week later.
Thanks for watching! I would try to order the spray soon, because the crawler stage might come early this year due to the heat and humidity. The drench would be good to apply now.
What step would you recommend starting with now, in mid-late September? Or should I wait until spring and begin from there? I wiped off any many white clusters as I could reach on my Tripetela but they go higher than I can reach.
Great question!
The Annual Tree & Shrub Drench can still be applied now: www.wasconursery.com/product/annual-tree-shrub-drench/
The Dormant Oil can be applied during the winter, and then you can spray for crawlers next year (starting in mid-late summer).
@@WascoNursery thank you SO MUCH! I appreciate the guidance!
Exactly what I needed to know for my 20 year old Magnolia. Does it make sense to do the drench now on August 25th? Or just do the spray now and drench in the spring?
It would be best to spray the tree, if you see the crawlers on it. If you do not see crawlers, I recommend waiting until Winter to apply the Dormant Spray, then starting the cycle in the spring once the tree starts to leaf out.
Thanks! Exactly what my Magnolia tree has. Just found this video..hope I can save this old tree. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to send a picture of it
Thanks for watching! Feel free to let us know if you have any questions regarding the treatment steps shared in the video.
Thanks for posting this video and for continuing to respond to everyone’s questions! My saucer magnolia has many branches exactly like the one in your video, so it appears to be a severe problem. I want to do the systemic drench but I’m concerned how it might affect a very healthy, beautiful, and blooming hydrangea, which is planted directly in front of the magnolia. Could the systemic drench harm the hydrangea?
You're welcome! We are always happy to help.
If your saucer has several branches that look like the ones in the video, it will need to be treated asap this year. The drench can be applied now, and the spray can be applied when the crawlers hatch and start feeding (Late August for Northern IL).
Neither of these products will harm the health of the hydrangea. If it is a fertile-flowered hydrangea (i.e. Lacecap Smooth Hydrangea or Oakleaf), I recommend removing the blooms, to avoid affecting pollinator populations.
If it is a mostly sterile-flowered hydrangea (i.e. Bloomstruck, Incrediball, or any others that ONLY have "showy" petals) then there is no need to remove blooms, since pollinators will not visit that plant heavily.
Thank you for your video that answers my questions. Really helpful!!
Thank you very much for your great informative video! Can you please let me the products details that you are showing in your video. The brand name of the product. I am in Canada, so I can try to source it online. Thank you.
Thanks, we have the scale! I applied the systemic drench a month ago (July). Would insecticidal soap work on the crawler nymphs? I have a large tree. Spraying means a lot drips down, sometimes on me. If the soap is just marginally effective, I will need to find a way to spray the insecticide. What do you think?
Soap is marginally effective. Neem Oil (also organic) would be relatively effective against the crawling stage.
I have what looks exactly like that along the branches of my willow cherry tree. I've been told it's scale by an arborist and coop extension master gardener. Can the scale on the magnolia be on other types of trees? And, will the insects that cause scale damage the plants around them? Thank you, Sue
There are many different types of Scale Insects. Magnolia Scale targets only Magnolia Trees. You may have a different type of scale on your tree. The treatment is fairly similar for most scale insects, the main difference is the timing of the "contact insecticide" will differ depending on what time of year the "crawler" stage is.
Just what I need. I am surprised by my diagnosis and Happy I now have a plan.
Thanks for watching, glad we could help!
Great video! My large magnolia that is over 20 years old and is well over 20 feet tall, has this same problem. I hope to have my tree checked out by a company that specializes in tree maintenance. One question I have though is that the tree also needs to be pruned. Is it best to wait until the Spring to do this or can it be done in Sept or October? Will the insect scale enter the areas that are pruned and weaken it further? I’m in NW Illinois, Zone 5. Thank you for any advice you can provide.
Sorry for the slow reply, for some reason some comments were hidden from me on youtube. The trimming will not impact the insect activity so no need to worry.
I didn't find it any store here in Canada last year 2020...Is it available this year 2021 in Canada? Could you please mention what else I could use to remove scales from my beautiful Magnolia tree?
Can you find a drench product with imidicloprid in it? If not, spray with permetherin in summer application and horticultural oil during late winter.
Where to buy the one you recommended? Thanks
this video was excellent. It described precisely the problem with our Star Magnolia bush. I couldn't find the exact root treatment recommended in the video. But i applied this: BioAdvanced 12 Month Tree and Shrub Protect & Feed Concentrate I hope it works as well.
Thanks for watching! BioAdvanced's product contains the same active ingredient as the one mentioned in the video. We recommend a 3 step approach for heavy infestations, using the products (or similar ones) in our Magnolia Scale Bundle: www.wasconursery.com/product/magnolia-scale-treatment-bundle/
As per the video, we are about to come up on the "Crawler Stage" of the insect's life cycle. If it is able to be sprayed, you will want to spray it with Bonide's Systemic Spray in Late August, Mid September and Late September.
Just seeing your video in December in Connecticut. Do I wait until spring to begin treatments? Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Hey Jonathan, Connecticut has fairly similar growing conditions to ours here in Illinois. The pest's timing should be about the same. You can apply a systemic drench at any time in the Spring as a preventative, otherwise you will want to try and get them during their crawler stage toward the end of summer and into early fall.
Here is a link for more info: www.wasconursery.com/plant-issues/magnolia-scale-treatment/
I also found out your video today, November 2. My young magnolia Suzan had few dead brunches. Other brunches leaves are still intact however some are yellow and seen black dots on green leaves. There were white dots all over the brunch, tried remove with my finger however didn’t seems coming off. Not sure they are young scale. Shall I pour tree and shrub insect control around root area now? Or shall I wait till early spring?
I live northern suburb of chicago.
hi i live in central fl and justed notice magnolia scale, when should i put the liquid down now i imagine, thanks, Ray
Should I scrape off any of the adult scales of my fairly small magnolia? I am planning to buy the tree and shrub insecticide at the base now in September. Is it necessary to prune any branches. I really don’t want to cut too many branches off since the tree is only 2 years old.
Pruning and scraping off *DEAD* Adult Scales is not necessary. If you are able to scrape off the living scales without damaging the tree, then you should do so.
Doing the systemic drench during the early spring (after leaves come out), will be one of the best things you can do. If your infestation is very bad, I recommend following our full 3-step method in 2024.
Will the scales fall off? What should the trees look like after sprayed and healthy again? Thanks
The scale will eventually fall off - sometimes it takes a season or two to fall off. The tree should bounce back within a season or less.
@@WascoNursery awesome! Thanks for the help!
I live in Connecticut and the first soaking treatment you recommend is banned here. Is there an alternative?
There is not - you'd just have to rely on the other two (the dormant spray and then spray the crawlers during August / September ... check the timing for your area as well).
Thank you so much for this video! You’re saving my two royal star magnolias here in Chicagoland😊
Hello, Thank you for this video. What time of the year should I give the liquid one, the one I am going to pour in the bucket and give to the roots? Any time?
yes, any time during the growing season. As long as the ground is not frozen or saturated. Keep in mind it takes 4-8 weeks for the tree to take up that chemical.
Currently have this on our magnolia tree and have noticed increased bees and flies to the tree now! Is there anything we can spray now to help since some of these treatments aren't recommend until Aug/ September?
Great question! The Bonide Systemic Drench can be applied now. The Bonide Insect Spray does not get applied until Late August, Mid September, and Late September.
@@WascoNursery okay thanks! can I spray anything on the tree to help with the flies and bee problem though or do I have to deal with them until Aug/September? Or will the root treatment help with the flies?
@wasconursery
We have the same thing with flies and bees. So many!! Anything we can spray to get rid of them after we French and before end of august for the crawler spray?
@@indiaasmuth546 The bees / flies will not really be treated by the drench. You could try cleaning the sap off, just make sure to not use any chemicals that can damage the bark (i.e. use warm soapy water).
@@eringawlick8772 You could try cleaning the sap off with warm soapy water, or try using fly paper. The drench won't do anything for the bees or flies, unfortunately.
caught the neighbourhood squirrels _LICKING/nibbling along the branches_ last week 😂 knew it was time to do something
When do you put down the tree and shrub? You said takes 4 to 8 weeks to start working?
anytime the ground is not frozen or saturated.
So helpful thank you
You're welcome! Please let us know if you have any recommendations for future videos!
Thank you!
Is the soil drench safe for honey bees when used on magnolias in July, since it won'tbloom til spring?
Yes it is. Pollinators will not visit the tree post-bloom, so it is safe to use it on the tree after they are finished blooming.
OK, I know I need to get tomorrow. But will the spray or the disease affect other flowers that are around my tree I noticed the black onmy mum leaves like you had stated.
Neither the spray nor the disease will affect nearby plants.
@@WascoNursery TY
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I hope I am not bothering you but once again I just received my tree and shrub insect control the one that you said to use first you use with the watering can. I understand how to do it but my question is we just had a massive rainfall up to 3 inches so the ground is really really wet , I don’t know if I should wait. If anyone has an answer, I ordered all three though just like the videos tells us.
Should I do the drench product every year after? Or just keep up with the spraying in the spring and late summer with the spray products?
drench each year thereafter. only spray during the summer if an "outbreak" occurs.
@@WascoNursery Great, thanks. I will stop by and pick some up. Along with some more plants. Love Wasco nursery!
Tried a few different systematic insecticides with no luck. Then tried Acephate 97UP sprayed twice and had no scale for 3 years.
Thats great, i'm glad to hear! Acephate applied during the crawler phase (Late August - September) is definetly effective against scale.
We recommend Bonide Systemic Spray, since it is easier to apply (comes in hose-hookup bottle), but we also carry Acephate in a concentrate. Both products are equally effective, when applied at the correct time of year.
Bought a gallon of the Bonide drench to apply now, Sept. 9, since I didn’t see any crawlers. Per the instructions, it states to measure the circumference of the tree at chest height or about 4.5 feet up from the soil. We are to mix 1oz of drench for each inch of circumference to 1 gallon of water. Here’s the issue; our magnolia tree separates into 6 different trunks at about 2 feet up from the soil, so I am not sure how to determine the appropriate ratios of drench(ounces) vs. water. I don’t want to over apply or under apply the product. FYI: the circumference of the tree at 2 feet up, before it splits into the 6 different trunks, was 84 inches. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Great question! If you have a multi-trunked magnolia, the best way to figure out how much to apply is to find the circumference or diameter (whichever is easiest) of each trunk and then add them together.
For example, if you have 5 trunks on your magnolia that are all 5" diameter or ~15" circumference, you would add them together and dilute the appropriate amount per the label instructions, based on a 25" diameter tree (or 78" circumference). Make sure to measure each of the trunks individually, rather than wrapping a tape measure around all of the trunks at once.
Does the horticultural oil get rid of the adults? Or do they just go away in the Winter?
it helps with overwintering insects - this insect will not "go away in the winter" like other insect infestations.
Just found scale on my.magnolia today and found your video. I just ordered the drench product, but was wondering in the meantime what is the best way ti deal with the honeydew. The tree is near my house and mostly above concrete, don't want the mildew and the ants; do I just periodically spray with hose to wash?
Not much you can do about the honeydew…a little dawn dish soap and water in a sprayer would help a bit and would be safe.
Thanks @WascoNursery looks like the drench was pretty effective. I'm about to go to step 2 for the crawlers, but have some concerns because the magnolia hangs over the house, and there are other shrubs and bushes underneath the magnolia. Reading the description for the spray it says it will not wash off in the rain once dried(which sounds great for the magnolia but not so much for the roof on the garage or the shrubs) Should I use another product or will the spray be okay to apply?
You need to put these products up full screen so people can copy them down.
Thanks! They are added to the description now.
I have that scale on my Serviceberry! Is that the same insect? Can I use the same treatment? P.S. My Magnolia doesn't have it!
There are other scale that could be affecting a Serviceberry, but this insect is host specific and only attacks Magnolia
It's June 22 is it too late to use the drench?
No, it’s not too late.
Can I use the systemic insect control as a soil drench?
Yes, Optrol makes a great annual systemic drench for big trees: www.wasconursery.com/product/optrol-tree-shrub-protection/
@@WascoNursery Thank you when is the best time of the year to apply it?
@@user-fx3fd5cy1z May / June is the best time to apply. Anytime after the leaves come out is good.
@@WascoNursery ok thank you! Very helpful!
Thank Youuuuu ❤ for this video. 5:30
I kept seeing a gazillion flies. Bees and wasp were in the grass but no clover, my doorbell camera was constantly detecting bees or wasps or birds trying to eat them. So I thought: What in the National Geographic is going on?! More flies, bees and wasp were all over my tulip magnolia! The tree is near covered in these bumps, which thanks to your video I now know is definitely, scale.
Me too! Have a million ants on it. Scale is hard and very ugly. Just drenched it with the product you recommended. Fingers crossed!
Drenches will take a few week to work their way all throughout the plant, so it should start to be effective soon. In the winter or spring, you should be able to remove some of the dead scale using a scrub brush.
Sure would be nice if you listed the products
Hey Sue, here is a link to our website where we have the products listed: www.wasconursery.com/plant-issues/magnolia-scale-treatment/
@@WascoNursery still do not see the product list on website
@@ffbeardedprince8693 You can call in or stop by to pick up the products. If you would like them shipped to you, we can do that for certain products if you call in to our main phone number: 630.584.4424
That a plumeria behing you?
yes :)
would neem oil work for this issue
No. It didn't work for me at all. I've used several different types and brands of neem oil and yes, made sure to even get the pure cold pressed oil to no avail. However, you may have luck where I didn't. Just letting you know my opinion and experience. If your tree is heavily infested and affected. I wouldn't waste time, money, or put the tree thru anymore stress by testing out several ineffective "organic treatments." As by the time you find something that helps the tree could be dead. A good systemic insecticide will save your tree without harming the life and environment around. I try to be as organic as possible, and hardly ever use chemicals. As organic methods work fine for prevention along with hard work. But when it comes to established infestation, or serious infection I would weigh the life of my trees to be worth the use of a more heavy treatment.
good answer from Kat.
“Use THIS now”. “Use this in the fall.” Ok fine BUT WHAT exactly is “this” or “that”? You don’t state the exact of the manufacture along with the active ingredient within the chemical. Is this not basic info for someone looking to fight this type infestation? I thought that info would have been a given to include within a video on dealing with this scale
The products referenced are manufactured by Bonide. The names of the products are given (starting at 2:52) and easy to read. However, here's a handout as well. www.wasconursery.com/plant-issues/magnolia-scale-treatment/
Out of Market in Canada this yr. 2020
not sure what that means.
Hit my magnolia three with 2 of the three earlier in the year,,, just about ready to use systemic insect spray here in late august and again twice in a months time,,, hope this does it and nukes the scale out of my magnolia tree (From southern California.)
best of luck!