Disappointing 👀 Outcome! - Wood Turning
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- I've turned lots of Alder from this property and it wasn't anything like this. Mine must be slow growing due to all the shade from the Fir trees. I think this piece is young and fast growing. Could not get a decent shellac finish!
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Absolutely beautiful!
Thank you, Dianne, I'm glad you think so. 😊
I like the simplicity of it. The grain is lovely, and the missing piece of bark looks like it came that way
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I absolutely love the grain, bark and areas without bark. The bowl has a naturally distressed look with some bark missing.
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Well, Phil, I think you have to look at this piece in this light. All of your turnings are one of a kind, and this is one of them. I like it.
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Your advice for woodworking can be applied to life in general. Take little bites, enjoy the process! Thanks for the video again!
There ya go, Kristi! 😊
I don’t know why you’re disappointed, it looks good. It’s a nice color and the finish looks shiny! Thanks Phil!
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The process, technique and commentary are my primary reasons for following your work, Phil. A beautiful finished piece of art is the gravy when things work out. Still a nice bowl in my opinion.
Thank you, Hubert! 😊
I like the 'simplicity' of the figure and color. The 'soft' look of the finish complements the figure/color. Very nice bowl, Phil.
Thank you, Louis! 😊
You are harder on yourself than anyone else! Not every baseball player makes the hall of fame and not every bowl will either. Doesn’t mean either one doesn’t have value or an important job to do. This is a very nice bowl that could hold a ball of yarn and crochet hook for a project…maybe a warm beanie to keep your head warm until spring finally gets here. 😉 I like it as do many others who watched this video. 👌 And if you don’t, there’s always another chunk of wood waiting to be turned that will be spectacular! In the meantime, I know there’s many of us that would be happy to take this bowl off your hands and put it in a place of honor in our homes! 💕😊👍💕
Thank you, BobbieJean! It's mostly the finish, I just couldn't get it right on this piece. 😊
I respectfully disagree, I think the finish is just about right. @@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop
😮well the grain isn't as pretty as some pieces you've turned. I do like the area with missing bark it adds a realistic look to the bowl. Your usual great turning job. Thanks for sharing. 😊
Thank you, Mary! 😊
Hi Phil, Dan here. I'm recovering from shoulder replacement surgery, watching an artist like you is like a pleasant tonic. Love this piece, feel like you let the wood have an expression. When I get back to turning, I think I'll invest in a sand o flex. Think one would come in handy. Don't stop being you, love this channel. Thanks.
Thank you, Dan! Speedy healing! 😊
Same here reverse socket it’s not going well for me it has just dislocated three times My surgeons has a different idea I have upcoming meeting with him Wish you well
Hope your healing plan works...Dan
An artist like yourself is hard to please himself,perfection is what your looking for. Some pieces your never satisfied with but everyone else loves it. So you have pleased many, many people. I watch a lot of your videos and absolutely love your work. You are truly a wood artist. There are different types or wood working artist ,ofcourse your not carving dragons out of a log or carving animals in a tree trunk , your the type of wood artistry we all can appreciate because we can learn by watching and your work is something we all can have . To me you are the ground 18:58 country living came from. You still do the work our ancestors did maybe a bit faster and cleaner. I remember my Granny making biscuit in a wood bowl her father made for her mom. Along with wooden spoons. She also had smaller bowls he made. He did this after the farm work was done and they sat around the candle light before bed. You just bring back so much history ,and making history for our future generations. Thank you so much.
I've watched videos where they put colored stuff in cracks and holes it's pretty but I rather have wood in its natural form ,like you. Thanks again for your work ,keep on as long as you can and I'll be watching.
@@patriciaglove8201 I so much appreciate your comment, Patricia! I feel like I was there in the candle light! Thank you, you get me!😀
A very nice bowl, Phil. I could live with it!
Thank you kindly 😊
I would leave the pieces off. The grain looks good. It's always interesting watching different types of wood that aren't from my area of the country. I like the shape of the bowl. Again, Phil, thanks for sharing with your UA-cam family
Cool, thanks, Doug! 😊
I like it, Phil. It has a nice natural look. The Alder I have worked with has always been fairly soft.
Thanks, Billy! 😊
I actually like the look of the 'ghost' edge, what's left behind after the bark falls off.
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I would say you got the best that piece had to offer Phil. Like you said it is mostly used for firewood and this piece has been saved from that by a fine wood turner.
Our son has acres of Alder. I think I have a piece of Ricks stash as well. Hope to get back at the lathe and turn a piece.
So you said maybe you are a speeder.....well I watched you riding the Mukkpet Tank and I would have to say yes you are LOL
Take care my friend,
Gary
Haha, well, it's hard not to speed on a bicycle, Gary, especially when it has a motor to help you along! Thanks, buddy! I've turned a lot of Alder that just wasn't soft like this piece. Maybe if I would have been ready for that I could have done a better job. 😊
Our son has acres of Alder. It is pretty soft.
Phil. I think you did an excellent job of turning this piece. What do you usse to apply your sanding sealer and schlock to your turnings. Some times I think you use a paper towel and other times I think it is a cloth. Would it be good to buy some shop towels and cut them into pieces. Hope your weather starts to warm up soon. I have a heated and air conditioned shop
Cotton cloth rags, Dave. 😊
I think it came out beautifully. Nice finish. Not all turnings are graintacular. Sometimes they are just a nice bowl.
Ok, if you say so, Jeff. Thanks! 😊
The grain reminds me of turning Ash. Nice grain patterns in both species. I like what you did with the piece. keep on keeping on.
Thanks, Chris! 😊
I think the bowl is quite lovely...I like how simple it is.
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What's not to like, simple but nice anyway. I like the missing bark.
Thanks, Doc! 😊
thanks for the break im having sooo much fun shoveling the three feet of snow and ice i hate winter just saying i think its wonderful you do good work
Oh, my, I would not care for that weather, Debra! Maybe hot cocoa time? Or, maybe something a little stronger? Thanks for taking your break with me! 😊
Phil, on the video the finish looks very nice. I like that you didn't put the bark back on. We are our worst critics, that's for sure. Another great piece!!👍
Thanks, Ron! 😊
Still a beautiful looking bowl Mr. Anderson! Nice job as always!
Thanks, Cap! 😊
Hi Phil. This is a beautiful live edge bowl. 😊 you did the best you could possibly do. I like it. I also love where the bark is missing. The color of the “natural edge” wood is awesome. 🤩
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I not noticed before how you applied the seal coat, which is my goto sealer. I like the squeeze bottle idea. I have been dipping shop rag material cut into 2”x4” strips but your method doesn’t contaminate the can. Thanks for the tip.
@robertnorthrup1914 you prefer cotton rags vs paper towel to apply a finish?
Every time I have a question about what you are doing, or why, you always answer it. You do amazing videos.
Wow, how cool is that! Thanks, David! 😊
Very NATURAL,,, I like it ❤️
Thank you! Cheers! 😊
It's gorgeous. Calm and peaceful. Love it!
Thank you! 😊
I like it with less bark. I don’t think you should be disappointed with this project. I think it’s perfectly acceptable. I like the grain and tones.
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Доброго времени суток Фил. Отличная чаша. Чисто отполированная древесина. Только, я не понял, что за дерево Вы использовали. Работа мне очень понравилось. Жду новых видео.
Спасибо! Это ольха. 😊
Western Red Alder: Alnus Rubra (Betulaceae)
Normally I love the bark on live edge pieces, but this one…not so much. I think it’s the whitish areas that I don’t care for. If it were me, I’d remove all the bark. I do like the bowl itself, and I like the look of the wood on the edge without the bark. It’s too bad it won’t cooperate with you for the finish you want, but from here the satiny finish looks really nice. 😊
Fair enough, Marcia, thanks! 😊
Beautiful bowl, ❤❤
Thanks, Maddie, I'm glad you think so. 😊
I love the simplicity of it, it's really quite beautiful
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The bowl is beautiful. Bark and lack of bark looks natural. A great bowl.
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Not sure why you’re disappointed, Phil. It looks good to me, buddy. Very enjoyable video! 👍👍
Take care,
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Just couldn't get the end grain to finish up, Gord. Just kept soaking up sealer and I even brushed it on many times! Thanks, buddy! Be well. 😊
I think the missing bark makes it very unique. It's such a beautiful piece. ❤
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I like it. I also don't mind the missing bark. The bowl looks fine to me. I would add pebbles about a third cup and water, and it would make a fine bird bath for finches and such. It's a beautiful Phil. Thanks.
Thanks, Kersi! 😊
A piece of live edge missing ,ahhhhhh. Just gives it character. Beautiful wood an bowl. When they fly apart like a cherry bowl, like mine then its disappointing. Wife had me clamp an glue it back together.
I think we all have a few pieces with glue lines, Bobby! LOL! 😊
I love the way this turned out. Beautiful piece.
Thank you, Kay! 😊
So not disappointing. The contrast of color is beautiful.
Yeah, that's about the only good thing! Thanks! 😊
It's lovely:) I like the missing bark...maybe it doesn't have quite as much character as your other pieces, but still lovely:)
Thank you, Becky, I'm glad you like it! 😊
Maybe not up to Phil Anderson standards but still a beautiful, live edge bowl. A very pleasant grain color! Thanks, Phil!
You bet, Greg, thanks for watching! 😊
Sometimes the wood just doesn't cooperate. I have half a dozen pieces that just didn't work out lying around on my garage floor waiting to be used as campfire wood this summer. Anywho happy turning my friend ☺️
Thanks, Edward! 😊
Hi 👋, Phil from Phil, nice job, a great pity that the bark came off, stay safe, keep up the great work, from the moulin
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Still pretty. Thank you, as always.❤
Thank you! 😊
It looks better than anything I've ever turned Phil. Id love to send you some buckthorn. I know you did a buckthorn rootball or gnarly piece a while back. You should see what it looks like after being hit with a torch before finishing.. you won't be sorry...
I need to use a torch on some of my turnings at least once! 😊
I personally love the look of that wood. And since you asked, I am think the bowl would look beautiful without the bark. Bark is beautiful for sure but I just know that it will eventually fall off so my take is to just make it look as beautiful as you can without it.
Still the bowl as you've done looks great! Well done!
Thanks, Tom! 😊
You know what, Phil? This piece might not have finished as you wished, but the sanding and the smoothness you’re able to obtain is fantastic. That bowl has other points of beauty!
Thank you, Danella! 😊
Bark looks good the way you did it, this wood makes a good hollow form in my experience, but definitely difficult to finish.
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still looks good -- from this view the finish looks good --I do agree about the bark
Thanks, Lynda! 😊
I think the piece looks great as it is. To my eye, the finish is without issue. It isn't the least bit disappointing.
I'm glad you like it, Vicki, thanks! 😊
Im not disappointed in the outcome at all. Looks good Phil. 😎❤✌
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IT LOOKS GREAT PHIL!
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It looks good! Sometimes they just don’t do what you want and that’s ok! Great job…
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I think it's special. I kind of like how it looks without all the bark.
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I like the bark! 👍👍
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Still a very beautiful bowl Phil!!!
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Another unique creation. Just spending time with you and the wood and the lathe was a pleasure ✨
Thank you! 😊
Sharing some wise words at the start there, Maestro! Even for experienced turners, hearing a gouge master talking about gouge technique is always educational.
I love this piece. I really like what you did with the base, the shaping around the recess looks beautiful. I have some alder drying in my store, and I haven't turned it before (used it for small boxes though, I kinda like the 'plain' grain), should be usable in about 4-5 months, so this was a good watch. Always an education ;) It looks like it fuzzies up quite a lot... with it drinking the finish, asking for your experience, would a bath in finish to let it really soak in help?
14:00 I have a few pieces that I've lost some bark, and just smoothed the transition, from wood to bark, and I love it. Especially with some shallow bark species like holly or birch. I like the drama this piece has though... that hard angle suits it!
I'll stop rambling... another beauty, Phil. Happy Friday!
Jay
I didn't give it a bath but I did apply many coats, allowing overnight to dry. It just didn't help. I like your idea of smoothing the transition. I wish I would have done that. Thanks for the great comment! 😊
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop Glad it's starting to warm up for you there too... still frozen here in the highlands. It didn't get above -1c (30f) today, was too cold in my workshop, even with a heater running. Bad times!
The maker is always more critical than the average viewer.
Justifiably. 😊
Hi Phil, thanks for showing us :)
You bet! 😊
Some of us need a little bit of a tutorial and or tips. So thank you for that moment near the beginning.
You're welcome, Jack, thanks for watching! 😊
It is good. I really like the shape.
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Lovely bowl Phil. I really like the finish. The satin luster seems right somehow. I wonder if another coat or 2 of shellac would bring up a bit more gloss. No matter. As far as the bark, I kind of agree that leaving the gap wider looks better than the small gap. But I’m also thinking that taking it all off would look even better. No matter, you’re the artist here. It’s what is right in your eye that matters most. Excellent work on a lovely bowl my friend.
Thanks, Doug! 😊
Howdy Phil it’s sometimes hard to know what to do when the bark doesn’t corporate, still a pretty cool looking piece I love natural edged bowls, enjoyed the video! 👍
Thanks, Buddy! 😊
The piece you made is really nice. I liked that it was Alder. I'm down near Mapleton Oregon on 12 acres of mixed Alder, Big Leaf Maple, and Doug Fir.
Alder and Maple make for some good turning, Jim! 😊
C'mon Aussie c'mon c'mon Aussie Aussie oi oi oi You little ripper Phill fantastic video easy peasy, ( for you that is ) Keep the dream alive son Aussie Aussie Aussie GDAY MATE from brisbane Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
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🙋♂️🏴 Hi Phil anyone who doesn't like this must be "barking mad" look at what you started with. And I really loved your advice to new turners although I'm not a wood turner I get what you are saying. Thanks Phil see you soon.
Thanks, John! 😊
ha Phil I love the color be proud of it and I like the missing bark!........Larry God Bless
Ya can't make me be proud of it, Larry, but thank you! 😊
Thank You Phil, Thank You Rick Chapman...Common wood with you Phil but I do not seem to see it around my area or I just do not know what I'm looking at?...Way too hard on yourself Phil "Disappointing Outcome!"?? your finish looks pretty darn nice to me😊 TM
Thanks,Tuffy! You might not say that if you were holding it! 😊
I don't know Mr. Phil, I really like the finish. I Love the natural wood. Too many woodworkers finish all the nature out of their projects. Yup, I liked it!
OK, thank you, John! 😊
don't mind the finish...and although I'm a bigger fan of live edge bowls, in this case, the edge without bark looks better than with bark...I like the texture (of the edge without bark) and think the piece would've been benefitted without (rare)...anyway, stay calm and keep turning...ha
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Hello there! I’m glad you left the bark off. It looks better without it. This is a pretty bowl, but I’m just not feeling it. I can’t quite figure out why. 🤔 oh well, it’s still a nice bowl. I hope everything is good for you up at your home. Say hi to the trees for me. 😉😆 See you next time! Ciao! 💫✨ Roma 🦕 🌲💚🌳 🦅
I'm not feeling it either, Roma. Oh well, next time, right? See ya then! 😊
Thanks for the gouge instructions! I've learned to do that by watching many of your videos. Enjoyed the video!!!
Great to hear! Thank you, Garry! 😊
Good evening, Phil.
I'm running behind this week. Your alder bowl oil is wonderful. "Relax" is a good word. Something I'm attempting in my turning. The results have been very pleasing. See you next time around.
That's great, Ray! 😊
Sorry Phil I'm watching this at the wrong end of the day today. Thanks for the lesson, I've only ever had one lesson at turning and although I had fun I never quite understood what I was doing 😂. You just explained it beautifully, thanks.🙏
Oh yeah, nice to see Stubby back at work too 😁
That seemed more interesting on closer inspection there at the end. I think you're right about the bark, it does look natural without those bits that fell off. Lovely colour too. 👍
Thank you very much, Jude! 😊
Lovely bowl Phil, just turning my first natural edge bowl. Taking it very slow. I’m amazed at how different it is to turning a ‘normal’ bowl. Cheers and all the best from down under🇦🇺
It is different, Jenny. Slow is good. It's easy to remove too much material. I like to stop often and spend some time looking the piece over before I go on. I'm glad you are trying something different! 😊
Howdy Phil
I never use that edge ... always use the side ... than I never have to sharpen ! ..LOL
That wood reminds a lot of sagamore you guys have so much of ...beautiful wood .
I have made the edge like that many times ... I sand the end a little ,nothing will catch . Maybe a little CA just to hold the end better . Rustic look to me ..
That half moon " crack " looks like a smile at you !
keep on turnin'
It does look like a smile, Bruce! 😊
Hi Phil WOW that is magnificent and the Alder wood is beautiful the grain and colour, it looks really smooth. The live edge bowl is magnificent. You are too hard on yourself I just wish you could see what I see. I really enjoy your videos and your commentary. Amanda xx
Many thanks, Amanda! 😊
I learn something every time I watch you your inspiring. Would like to know where you get your 2" sanding discs and pads from? I'm not having much success with the pads I've been getting. They come apart on me. Thanks in advance.
My soft pads will come apart over time, too. It goes with the territory of turning the kinds of pieces I like to turn. 😊 They take a lot of abuse. I fix mine a couple times with CA glue before I finally toss them. Everything I use for 2" disc sanding comes from this page including the Apprentice Backing Pads: woodturnerscatalog.com/collections/sanding-discs-pads
Looks good, that missing piece of bark doesn't do any harm at all. as always you found it's character, good piece of advice right at the beginning. All the best from Lincolnshire UK
Thanks, Gary! 😊
I wouldn't be disappointed atall Phil. You've made a piece that looks good with a good finish on screen. Obviously you've got it in your hands but I'm impressed. Hope you're well sir.
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I don't know why you were disappointed. To me this is a lovely bowl. Maybe not as spectacular as some of your crotch turning but still a beautiful piece
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Nice work again Phil. That piece must have been 2% moisture which would burn real good although rapidly! You can call that piece "spongewood".
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Hello Phil; thanks again for all your videos. I like the warm, light-brown color of this piece. And, the oval shape is rather nice as well. The appearance may be unexciting, but it is pleasing.
I am curious why you made the decision to try for a shiny finish, rather than a matte finish. (My background is in photography rather than woodworking, so I don't know whether wood will even take a matte finish.).
Let us just say that if someone gave me a piece just like that one as a present, I would be delighted with it.
It's the same finish I use most often, Deirdre. I never try for a shiny finish, semi-gloss is about as shiny as I like. The problem with this was the soft end grain, just couldn't get it to stop soaking the finish up so it is duller than the rest. 😊
I think your right that it might be a faster growing wood than you might have had in the past. They grow crazy fast around here. The bark likes to come off. I just used my sandoflex to sand a live edge fireplace mantle and I had to glue the bark on. You know I'll be looking for another few pieces of alder to drop by. Maybe a crotch piece. 😊 we call alder "poor mans cherry:" i liked it Phil. Your too hard on yourself.
Haha, well, it just wasn't what I was expecting, Rick! Not sure what I would have done differently if I had known. 😊
I agree with your philosophy of taking finer cuts. You can cause a lot of problems if you try to gouge the material. That’s true with any material, hard or soft. I like this bowl. Sometimes, the extra work is appreciated more once you’re done. Great job. I love it.
Well said! Thanks, Stewart! 😊
Beautiful as always phil...question...Did you alter the bevel on your gouges or use them with existing shape?
I regrind all the bowl gouges the first time I use them. 😊
G’day Phil, you are too hard on yourself or in this case Alda.
That is one of the nicest pieces of Alda I’ve seen finished. I’ve turned very little Alda down here in Oz and yes it is a very uninspiring timber with a flat dirty appearance. But that is not the case with this piece.
Pity you didn’t show your sandoflex sanding, I love to see that as I don’t have one as as mentioned earlier too expensive here in Oz to get from USA.
As usual a great instructional video.
Tell me Philwhy didn’t you attend to fixing that bark earlier. I’ve used shellac sealer on bark early on in turning then CA glue to repair so that it’s stable and doesn’t leave CA staining on wood.
Thanks for sharing and yes in this case I
Bark missing I think does look better.
Thanks, Greg! Hmmm, I'm wondering if we watched the same video? I agree, CA after sealer. But, in this case, I did not fix it! 😊
Fantastic work as usual Phil! You have been an inspiration to me for well over a year now, I have actually went back thru your library and watched every one of your videos. One of these days I'll hit you up for your address and send you a big chunk of my spalted pecan I've been saving and see what you can do with that!
Thanks again for your inspirational and impressive work.
Ron Fowler
Thank you so much, Ron! 😊
Not all projects can make it to the hall of fame. It's a good piece of turning, and the video was quite instructional, especially the info about nibbling. One question: For a softer wood like that, especially with plain grain, could applying an alcohol dye, then sanding it back before the shellac finish, make for a more interesting piece?
Maybe that would help, Douglas. I don't know. I never use any stain or dye. 😊
I not noticed before how you used a squeeze bottle to apply the seal coat, which is my goto sealer. I will be using your tip. I have been using a shop rag in a box material cut into 2”x4” strips but finding it contaminates the can. Thanks!!
Oh, yeah, these squeeze bottles are the only way to go, Robert. 😊 I bought two kinds, one is good and the other not so much. Let me see if I can find the link...... These are the good ones: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXH8J9H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&th=1
Hey, Phil. Its not as eye-grabbing but it ended up looking pretty nice. I like its simplicity. The finish looks like a nice satin finish, I dont know how it actually feels but to me it looks really nice. The missing bark gives it a bit of extra interest, I agree the bark that flew off made a better impression than the way it came to you. Its a nice job, Phil! Thank you.❤
Thank you, Texana! 😊
Beautiful looking bowl Phil. Alder does grow in my area, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada however I have never seen it grow as large as this. About 4 inches is the largest I have seen.
Thanks, Jack! 😊
Nice bowl Phil. Did a couple of your style over last weekend. Natural edge Red Elm and Flaming Box Elder
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It looks good Phil. I personally like the missing bark. Keep the videos coming.
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While this might not be the flashiest bowl you've ever made, it is an attractive and useful one. It's a good size for a few pieces of fruit, on the table, as an after school snack for the kids. It's a good size for gamers to use, for tokens, in a board game. Such are appreciated, believe you me! For these, the flashiest wouldn't be used, for fear of damaging it. This is one which could even become a treasured heirloom, through constant, and daily, use!
Cool, thanks, Stephanie, I like the way you think! 😊
Western Red Alder is such a fast growing tree, that the wood is mostly softer summer wood with less winter hard wood. I found that sanding sealer raises the grain, requiring another light sanding to get it smooth again. Yup, plain grain unless you work with crotch wood to get some feather. And you know I want to come over there and pop the rest of that bark off to reveal the pretty natural edge underneath. But I will restrain myself and let you keep it your way! You can always go out and cut a chunk of bark from a standing tree and glue it all back on! 😁 A nice bowl just the same. Hmmm, I just happen to have some wipe on dye……
Haha, you are just full of suggestions, Valerie! 😊
Must be Aussie wood, we have a reputation for enjoying a drink. Thank you for another interesting video Phil.
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Phil, I think this is one of those times when the video might look better than the reality because your finish sure looks fine to me! I’m afraid I think it would have been better to remove the bark. The natural edge that we can see looks great and maybe if the whole rim looked like that, it would be cool? Also thanks for reminding me I put a few huge blocks of alder in my shed last year. Hopefully they’re still OK. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Rick
I hope you have better luck with yours, Rick! 😊