Suspension - Titan Swap Overview and Install on Nissan Frontier Pro-4X
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
- On this video we provide a general overview of the Titan Swap as well as show a video of us doing an install.
Titan Swap Guide: www.alldogsoffroad.com/alldog...
Titan Swap Product Page (Frontier) www.alldogsoffroad.com/alldog...
Titan Swap Product Page (Xterra)
www.alldogsoffroad.com/alldog...
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro/Titan Swap Overview
3:54 - Shocks
14:08 - Titan Swap Install
25:29 - Titan Swap complete
27:28 - Final Thoughts
John is so dreamy
@17:25
I'm a Sequoia guy but I can definitely apply some of the concepts on your channel to my rig. Thanks for all the details!
I didn't know people did this but truly not surprised. Very cool!
Perfect explanation. I was always thinking about it but knowing the purpose, for me I wouldn't need it. I'm okay with the lift I'll get but down the line maybe a better set up. Not much offroad to do here anyways. Thanks for making this video.
Thanks for the video and I plan on ordering my parts from you guys in the future for my 14 Xterra that is currently sitting on the Advanced lift from PRG with alcans in the rear.
Great vid. Really taught me alot about this option for a Frontier.
Motivation & Goals are what I see 👊🍻👍
I have the same snapon light, ment for your neck, but i wear it the same way LOL Great video, can't wait to be able to complete my titan swap.
Awesome video man!
awesome video, very educational. Am considering doing a full titan swap, that is both diffs and engine w/transmission which am hoping the new 9 speed will fit. would like to run 37s and with bumpers and gear I figured I upgrade everything so the added weight doesnt eat up the power or fuel and break my now 10 yr old diffs and axles.
I’m using junkyard lca’s with new bushings, no problems on and off the trail
Heads up for anyone trying to use a Titan coil over on the frontier. It does work, just need to get a frontier bolt pattern top hat and it works. I’m currently running Titan swap sway away coil-overs on my frontier. It’s an amazing ride can jump the truck with ease and keep up with raptors.
So does that mean you have Sway-A-Way coil overs that are to Titan dimensions but they can install a top with the Frontier bolt pattern?
Amazing. I can't wait to do this to my 15 Xterra Pro-4X!
Do you guys also know how to do a Titan engine swap? I'd love to see a guide and parts list like the in ones linked here to see what I'm up against and how much everything costs.
You guys are awesome. 💪💪
Good stuff. Did my Titan Swap at the house. Air tools HIGHLY recommended. I would recommend rear wheel spacers to give a little better track to the front.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Hopefully one day one day... I can do this to my Nissan Xterra .. once I have this in budget lol ... it would be a an awesome upgrade and another fun project to do and record as well
Can you look into and cover swapping the rear diff and axles from a titan... I believe it'd be going from the frontier c200k axles to the m226 ones? That would pair well with the front titan swap..!
Awesome i need to do this to my 2018 pro4x
Me: *thinking i can head to me local junk yard
All dogs: nope 😂😂😂
really appreciate these videos so much good information without wading through the forums
I'm looking to do a swap soon and have some questions. I will find a doner Titan for the majority of the parts. Can I swap my gears into the Titan diff? Also do I need to use wheel spacers for the rear or will the Titan rear end fit? 05 Xterra
That awesome. Wonder how different the pricing would be to ship to Australia
Pathfinder in the background at 26:25
So what do you do for the rear after doing titan swap infront?
After titan swap can I do a lift kit to go higher like 1.5"?
Awesome and motivation video.
Is there a better upgrade than mounting an M205 on the front for the Frontier's?
From what I read while it is much louder than R180 with stroger CV's , but it is not so durable that it does not break with 35 tires.
For me who live in Greece is an expensive conversion is it worth it?
I have one Nissan Navara D40 3.0lt v6 Dci auto with 280hp and 58 kgf·m (419,51 ft·lb) .
I am run 35's tires and I have 4.10 nitro gears and front ARB locker on R180.
Very helpful videos! Good thing i saw your channel. Hope you can see this comment. I do have a question in doing a titan swap in an np300 d25 navara... I am currently on fox2.0 coilovers. Are they compatible with the swap or do i need to get radflos? P.s. I am not aiming to increase ride height, just the track width... Thank you and keep it up! This really helps ALOT!
What is the least amount of parts you would need to pull off a titan swap?
What are those gold wheels on the nav at the end ????
What’s the part # for the titan lower control arm? Or what titan does it come off of .
Cool vid! I installed new bilsteins front and back for an Xterra, could I still do a Titan swap later?
Don't forget about the axle varieties. Rugged Rocks or Qx56 w/r180 vs Titan w/m205. Only one gear ratio matches m205, Titan big tow + auto off road/p4x =3.36. Also the hub differences with the Titan vs frontier spindles.
Yessir! All of that will be covered in the next video :)
Have you done a 2wd Frontier? I assume it's the same but wanted confirmation. Great Video, Thanks!
You can get more travel cutting off the coil bucket. It's pretty standard tossing the coil bucket over here in Cali.
I'm more into the titan's... Did a coilovers and bypass shock on the titan.
Now gonna do a custom frontier using some of the stock titan stuff.
Nissan usually sticks to a 2:1 suspension travel. If I had to guess shock travel is 5" giving wheel travel of 10"
Meaning if you cut off the coil bucket and weld a new mount point with 3" of more LCA... I think you'll be at 14" of travel. That's equal to a stock ford raptor Numbers
What would the potential cost be for a titan swap (no diff)
What kinda wheels / size are those? I'm diggin them.
Has anyone tried the Bilstein 6112s with the titan swap or just on a stock pro 4x. I have a 2013 with a hefty fabworks aluminum front bumper and winch and i run 285 75 16 Wrangler duratrac tires (which are incredible, wont buy anything else. I do a lot of 4wd probably 30k out of the 118k on my truck. before I buy the 6612, if they ever stock them want to know if I should do a titan swap and what are the downsides. Ive heard it makes the frontier have worse steering and how bad is the body roll without the sway bar? I know lots of questions. Thanks in advance.
nice video, nice cb antenna mount, care to share what mount that is?
I have a 2012 Nissan Xterra, can I use the titan swap kit on your website?
Can you still do a titan swap w the 5100
Is the NI8433 axles the same length on both sides?
Wish y’all had a shop in Dallas.
Originally saw the Ry video about changing out the leaf springs. Liking the idea of the extra lift from the BROverland pack and adding a 2" lift. Also like the idea of adding Bilstein's for increased performance on the road in Denver alone. I don't do much off-roading, but there's an incentive to do more right there! Now that I've looked into what a Titan swap actually is, having seen the term on your site, I'm thinking that one may be in order. Even if it is just for S&G's. I'm going to have to do everything in stages, but if I get the original leaf and general suspension work done, throwing in a space on the rear tires, I can then set myself up for the front end work after acquiring all parts, especially since I've been considering doing front end work to my X anyway. Might as well swap.
Why does no one address the rear wheels? The fronts are now 3 inches out per side, so they stick out more than the rear... How do you fix this?
This is addressed with wheel spacers at the rear to get closer to even.
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop
This is not a true “Titan swap”. Where’s the VQ56 powertrain?
in this video you mention the titan shocks won't work. also, mention the coilovers being 18" length. Do you mean fully extended 18" or compressed?
Also, (2018 frontier RWD) I want to do a 6" lift and found fully extended 18" and 22" coilovers. which one will I need for the 6" lift.
I want front and back wheel extending to fender evenly.
Will this solve the frontier suspension squeak??
Hi there.i am in middle east.just put the ome shocks and spring and got a 1.5 to 2 inch lift.isbit enuff if i do the titan swap
Wheels and tire size used on Titan swap upgrade
Does the Titan steering rack offer any benefits?
What year model titan stuff went into the white frontier? I only ask because here in Australia we have the frontier only it’s called a Navara. And I had no idea a Titan was even a thing until a couple of years ago when they started getting imported here brand new but the looked like Nissan’s answer to a 2500 Silverado but powered with a v8 Cummins. These titans look too big to be bolting componentry straight into a Frontier/Navara
So badass! I own a stock 2017 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X, come out here to the Yukon in Northern Canada and Titan Swap my truck and we'll go off-roading in some amazing countryside. :-)
That's what he said!
I was always curious what goes into a Titan Swap, but I will probably never do it on my frontier. It'd be nice, but not really needed for my use. Thanks for compiling all the info here and sharing! How are the ADO UCAs coming along? How do you feel about buying/selling used 5100s from folks that swap?
Unfortunately we aren't in the used parts business. I'm sure you would be able to sell your parts locally if you decided to go down the Titan Swap path!
UCAs are coming along nicely. No ETA yet unfortunately
Based on all the parts you recommended in this overview, how much should one budget for a Titan Swap?
We need nissan frontier pro4x with nissan gtr nismo engine in it and borla 3" exhaust system with 305-65R18 tyres
Did you guys use spacers on the rear to achieve matching track width with the front?
Yessir, 1.5" wheel spacers. It gets the width closer without looking too goofy.
Hi bother, just asking if can swap the front and rare CVA, and UCA and LCA from armada or titan to 2012 pathfinder?
What are the wheels on the frontier in the thumbnail?
How about gear ratio? I own a 2008 Pathfinder, I want to go to 33 tires.
I believe my gear ratio is 3.13 , and there is a formula for that. Awesome video. Please help with info.
F Alpha platform is so underrated.
I have a 2011 nissian xterra pro 4x a/t is there a kit i can buy with all of the components in it? If so what is it lol.
What’s this like for a daily driver and regular 3 hour road trips? Maintenance?
All nice but i can not find 1 video off a nissan frontier S 4x4 MT model 2022 how too lift front and back . Wich has a single arm suspension in the back with a spring.
Only videos with a tradicional suspension
Great video I like the actual cam footage of the work being done. That's helpful for my brain. Can a person Titan Swap a 2004 Xterra V6 2WD?
The 2004 would still be the first generation xterra which the titan swap doesn't work with unfortunately, that's only for the second generation xterra (05-15)
1) I have a 3" (2.5") lift in my front end. does this add to the titan swap front end or does the titan swap front end already is at 3"?
2) can I do a titan swap on my 4x2?
3) what are the parts I will need?
thank you for your help
Why would you even bother doing that to a 2WD? The main reason for doing all of this work is for better off-road performance! On second thought maybe you should do the Titan swap with 4 inches of lift and then mount some super swampers!
I upgraded the shocks on my frontier to fox 2.0s. Would these work with a Titan swap?
The Fox shocks for Frontier are too short for a Titan Swap unfortunately
V8 pathy with front would be awesome... What about an Armada rear? Is there a 4 way long arm? Lol
How did you fix the difference in lengths from the front differential to the rear differential? Because I see that the front tires are more out than the rear ones
Most people run wheel spacers in the rear to come closer to even. 1.5" Spacers are a good compromise.
very slick idea & comment 77 showing meaning & I #78:
We need Titan engine inside frontier 2022
Can you use the titan struts with the upper and lower control arms
You cannot
What is the minimum amount of lift you would want to run on an xterra with titan lift? Trying to keep in in the garage
Really depends on where you set the coilovers, but we would recommend at least 2.5" for adequate amounts of compression travel
Would you recommend the titan swap on a 2wd frontier
That all depends on what your goals are with the truck. If you offroad the truck enough to need the increased wheel travel it's worth it. But if you don't do lots of offroading, there are more cost effective options
So with a quick calculation I'm under $600 with upper and lower control arms inner and outer tie rods, axles and brake lines. So only thing else is to figure out what struts to use. What other options is there besides the $1,000 radflow's
You cannot use oem titan ucas. And you extended axle shafts, or the m205 with titan cvs. You are not doing this swap for under $1200.
What tire size are you running on the White Frontier?
The white Frontier is running 285/75/16!
What do you do about the back rims how do you match the front theybstick out pretty well
Most people run a 1.5” wheel spacer to try to get them fairly close
What kind of rims are those they look great on the truck
Thank you! They are Black Rhino Stadiums. You can check those out here - www.alldogsoffroad.com/black-rhino-17-x-85-stadium-alloy-wheel-for-2nd-gen-nissan-frontier-xterra
Hi, I’m thinking of doing this to my 2016 desert runner 2x4. I kinda want to make it a little better pre running kinda truck cause it doesn’t have the 4x4 package. I guess it’s all the same just with no front axles?
That's correct!
So if I do the control arms and tie rods and from coil overs can I still put I 5”liftkit
you need a specific length coilover for this kit. you can add a titan swap to a drop bracket lift but it requires special order suspension to fit.
I have a problem connecting the sway bar link do i need a titan sway bar and sway bar links or the frontier should fit?
On a titan swap you would need a titan sway bar.
So everything used in the installation in the video is the stage 2 titan swap on your website? Any extras or options I need to select?
Base kit is a good starting point. Reach out if you need help with config!
The Sway Bar Link, is the same or I need a titan one?
I do not think a titan sway bay will work. I know the xterra/frontier sway bar will not work. I do not know of anyone running a sway bar with the Titan swap.
Hello I'm Brad, my question is what if you're not taking your Frontier off road with the Titan swap and you keep the sway bar, will it be a nice ride or would the sway bar hinder the turning radius ?
Thank you,
Brad.
Hey Brad! It's often times not worth Titan Swapping if you don't plan on going offroad, but yes there are people who have Titan Swapped with a sway bar and are happy with the ride
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop
First of all thank you for getting back to me !
That's really good to hear! I'm planning on hopefully finding a 2020 Pro4x in December . I know that Frontier you were shooting had a body lift , But what would the height be after the Titan swap on the stock tires on The Frontier and would it look ok ?
Thank you,
Brad.
What recommendation for track width for the rear axle? Swapping in a titan rear axle? Or just chucking 3" spacers back there?
Everyone seems to overlook this part. I dont think i can trust 3inch spaceers on my X. A titan axle would require welding on new mounting points to fit a frontier or xterra, at the least.
@@justin_ogre I have an x too. 2012 pro 4x.
@@GACowboy86 mines an 06 offroad, with 230k miles.
why do you not use the titan spindals and larger brakes?
You can do it, but it requires a bit more work and goes beyond the scope of this video. It's something we will discuss on one of our more in-depth Titan Swap videos :)
Once Titan Spindles come into the picture you also have to worry about mismatched bolt patterns, titan brake boosters, etc. Be sure to keep an eye out of that video!
I have rancho ready lift struts in my frontier. Will those work if I just swap the control arms?
no. the titan swap require a certain length front coilover and that shock will not be long enough.
Can you use the ADO UCAs instead of the SPCs in a Titan swap
ADO UCA’s for a Titan swap are in the works
where do you go for alignment thereafter once youre done? I asked brakes plus and firestone years ago about lifted trucks and they say they wont do them.
- what about width on the rear wheels. are people just adding wheel spacers to extend them out?
- also if someone cant purchase everything at once, do you sell each of the parts individually?
- are there noticeable bumpsteer issues when doing this? or nonexistent?
try to find a shop that will work with you on a modded vehicle. most people run 1.5 or 2 inch wheel spacers on the rear. we do sell everything individually. also the vehicle is more stable because of the added track width
Does the spindle needs to be swapped from a titan too?
Nope!
do you need to run a spacer in the rear?
You don't have to but you can! We'd recommend 1.25-1.5" hubcentric if you go that route
Can Frontier SV 4x4 do Titan Swap? Or only Pro-4X?
The Titan Swap is compatible with any Frontier 05+ regardless of trim level! :)
What do you recommend to extend width in the rear with?
We recommend 1.5" hubcentric wheel spacers :)
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop gotcha.. what i was thinking...just so many mixed feeling due to wear on the truck.
@@Nathan-pw1rh 1.5 " wheel spacers will not dramatically increase wear on your truck :)
What about xterras? 🤔 they need love too 😔
Do you need to change the frint cv axle!?
Yes you need longer CV axles
How does it change the sway bar setup?
it deletes it
What tire size is John running? Looks like a 33! Thanks keep the videos coming!
John is running a 285/75/16
I agree, they look perfect. Anyway we could get the backspacing on the wheels too?
Nevermind, I found it. They are 4.75.
Have you removed the front sway bar? how does it ride at highway speeds?
sway bars are usually removed on titan swaps. the added track width helps with highway driving.
Didnt hear any mention of the clicking that you guys addressed with new bolts you guys offer.
This video is an introduction to the Titan Swap. There are an infinite amount of topics which could be covered but in an effort to keep the video under 1 hour we had to pick and choose what to put in the video. We'll make sure to cover that in the next Titan Swap video
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop look forward to it. You guys are definitely informative.
Will the Titan Swap work on the Frontier Pro4x
yes. both trucks here are Pro4x models
Can I just use the Titan upper control arm instead of purchasing a aftermarket one or swapping both upper and lower arms just to do a slight lift?
it's not ideal. the factory titan uca does not allow for the extended travel of a titan swap. also you can't just swap arms. it has to be an all or none decision.
Cool thanks. There’s not much I can do for the first gen I guess, my frontier is an 02 thank you
I did a 3" lift my 2005 frontier and new tires 285/75/16 AT new upper & lower control arms etc. But tires are rubbing against the fender. What do i need to do?
Sounds like you need to trim your fenders!
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop Okay trim fender and bumper. Let me try that. Thanks