Sonny was never an addict, seen his wife saying someone killed him, that it had to be more than one person. He was scared of needles, and "she knows an addict when she sees one." I believe her
She would say different things in different interviews, other times she acted surprised at the idea that it was suspected he was murdered, saying he wasn't in anyone's way and they were about to go to Japan for him to referee a fight.
Sonny Liston was mentioned in the Munsters episode with the drag car Dragula. Granpa says “Sonny Liston once said “ It’s not how you play the game that counts,Winning is what counts”
Sonny liston invincible & bonecrushing punching power 1950/ very early 1960s;; :: rocky Marciano retired at 32 years :::::: same age sonny liston fought muhammad ali 32
@@hassanx9423 cannot change history; either way ;; sonny liston made a living out the mob:::I rather talk rocky Marciano vs sonny liston; before rocky Marciano retired like 1955;; or prime sonny liston bonecrushing punching power 1950s/very early. 1960s:: 1960 / ; 1962 invincible
I cannot imagine anyone strong enough to hold down Sonny Liston I giving him a shot in his arm that man could break bones in people's face with his hands.
Don't technically have to hold him down, if he's cornered by several guys with guns and they tell him to inject it or something happens to his wife he doesn't really have much of a choice.
@@kevthegoat8774 THANK YOU, some people are so naive, it had to be at least four to six guys in that house that day. The police did a shoddy investigation.
Man, for real. You know you have an interview, silence the cell phone or pull the cord on the landline. He's a reporter too, you think he'd realize how distracting it is to have someone's phone ringing while you're trying to talk
I met Sonny a few months before he died. I was playing blackjack ($100. per hand) at the International Hotel in Las Vegas. It was around 3:00 am and I was the only player at the table. All of a sudden Sonny pulls out the chair next to me and sits down and smiles at me. I shook sonny's hand and continued to gamble. After a few winning hands, Sonny nudges me with his elbow and says "hey man how about you put me in the game" I just looked at him but didn't know what to say. Sonny got his face right into my face and said "put me in the game" his face changed and I got to see the look that turned other men into mush. I gave Sonny a few chips and as soon as he made a bet I got up and left, real fast.
@@RonnieMinh interesting- that means back in 1970 you had 100 per hand to spend at the age of 21. How you had that kind of money in that era where money was worth a lot more than today would be the interesting story to tell (assuming everything you stated is true). Not to be insulting, but I'll take this tale with a grain of salt.
When I was growing up, their was nothing like the heavyweight division in Boxing. Muhammad Ali I considered the greatest boxer I ever saw. I never saw Louis, Marciano, etc. Mayweather wasn't heavyweight. Sugar Ray Leanord, Hagler, Mayweather were great boxers. Ali, Forman. Frazier, Norton, Tyson, Holyfield etc. Ali went through troubled times. He was the greatest.
Here they talk about the death of Charles "Sonny" Liston,not about how great was Ali,why you do not take your love for Ali to a video where he is the main protagonist.You have no respect for Liston.
I honestly couldn't agree more with you, I truly believe no one has ever beat Liston fairly. Liston only lost fights when he was told to, Liston fought in a era when the mob had just as much control as the American government.
These men definitely did their research ...100% true, My Father did meet JFK and was also subject to tremendous pushback on giving Liston a chance at the title. My Father's logic was: What is the title worth, if those who deserve a chance, are denied such.
I remember seeing a picture of a smiling Sonny Liston at a Italian parade wearing one of those old kiss me I'm Italian bottoms a happy picture of Sonny, RIP SONNY you were very misunderstood
My consensus is maybe someone else was there in that house of course I can be wrong then she stated the lawyer told her to call the cops but she said they came a few minutes later. If she didn’t who did I will reassess her interview again.
As soon as you know sonny liston was being managed by the MOB , there’s your answer to how he died. The heroin thing is funny, liston snorted cocaine he was petrified of needles…
And personally I no so do a lot off others. At that time!!! He sonny was way ahead mentally off that time. At least 10 years ahead. Mentally. He was sharp quick witty funny and he didn’t intimidate anyone. It’s just the way he looks. But the media have to write some Ba about us every time they get a chance too.
He got much of it right. However, I discount anyone who writes about or discusses Sonny Liston who doesn't know that the first fight with Ali was also fixed. Sport's Illustrated, one of the biggest names in sports, called the first Ali/Liston fight one of the top ten events in sports history. How embarrassing for them, that they don't know that the first Ali/Liston fight was fixed.
Big charles Spnny Liston was rumoured to be in his mid Forties when he gave Clay an opportunity to Fight for the heavyweight champian back in 1962....There was much speculation the Sonny Never went to school very much, and unfortunately was for the most part part ilterate....sonny was the # 20th child out of 22 siblings, and his Father was an extremely Harsh, angry & abusive man....mr. Liston treated Sonny terrible, and used Sonny as an animal thus, Reducing Sonny to essentially an animal for pulling the plow when their literal Mule dies!......Anyway, back to the original narative, Big Sonny may have been about 40 when he faught Clay( not trying to minimize Cassus's Clay's awsome tallent) so it is unclear how a much younger Sonny wouldve performed had he Fought a more even aponent,in terms of youthfuLness.....i believe Clay probably would have defeated Sonny Nonetheless, but wouldnt it have been intesting to watch a boxing match between these great pugilis when voth were kn their early twenties?.....im thinking that Sonny wouldve deopped Clay like Snoop would say, "drop him like its hot"?
I feel the same way about the credibility of his wife..waaaay too much funny stuff. 1. ok I get visiting your folks for the Holiday's, we all have done that at one time. But why be away from your spouse for that long period of time that you been married to for well over a decade. 🤔 who wouldn't want to get away huh! It can be a joke or it can be serious. 2. they both knew hundreds of people. Family friends etc. Why on God's green earth are you not going to phone a friend or relative and tell them "hey go check on my husband" " he's not answering the phone after three or four days" 🤔😮 let alone two weeks that passed! 😮 3. what role did she play? Because if you give Hollywood any credit then in the Liston movie played by Ving Rhames his wife had every right to be hurt and full of anger and hate. Thats if you give any credibility to that. But some how it ties into the strange accounts of the unexplained. 🤔 3. why not call the police right away. Who calls a Lawyer! Now think about that. What does a lawyer do? What is his/her role? To defend or represent right! At such a time why would there be a need for one and your husband is dead. Guilt? Protection? Help on what to do? Advise? Apparently you can't help your husband so how could a lawyer assist you In a time the police and ambulances/ coroner is needed before anyone else. 🤔 4. She knew what she smelled as soon as she hit that front door! Who in their right mind would leave food or trash out for days to stink up the place! So why would she make that statement! Simple she knew what happened to Sonny and was apart of it. That would be the most logical thing to say what she said as if she were coached. 5. Who ordered the scene to be so well controlled? You have the Boogeyman of boxing hated by most around that time and no photographer no photo's no news? There was something to hide and the risk of going back to reveiew things would hurt? No nothing not even on Google images. 🤔 she definitely knew more than she lead on IMO. I think Sonny was dead b4 she left and they lied to throw people of with that newspaper and milk crap. Just to add credibility to a hatched scene created..and her phoning the Lawyer was her way of keeping her out of the mix and not telling it all. She is just as guilty as the ones who helped her or did it by themselves..thats my theory..
Ali usually had respect for his opponents he used to put on a show to promote the fight he knew Sonny was dangerous and didn't underestimate Liston even saying later in his career Sonny Liston was a good fighter He went overboard with Joe Frazier but had alot of respect for Joe as far as Frazier he built a hatred for Ali but still knew Ali was a great fighter The only time I ever seen Ali show true hatred towards a fighter was Earnie Terrell who kept taunting Ali by calling him Cassuis Clay Ali punished him Ali himself said after his career he never truly thought he was the greatest he used to like to build the fight up and then he praised Joe Frazier saying nobody's that great
He most likely had enemies it wasn't alot easier back then to get away with murder. Pretty sad. He was mean so it's no surprise that people didn't like him
@@therealdeal8277 something happened murders sometimes go unsolved for many yrs. It's sad but that's kind of the negative side of sports. Rocky Marciano was too nice of a man also a great boxer
I think the muslim brotherhood paid the mob for throwing the fight,and also the mob did huge from gambling, winning from both sides.And in the second was maybe something about regarding Sonny to be KO in the first round.
Sonny was never an addict, seen his wife saying someone killed him, that it had to be more than one person. He was scared of needles, and "she knows an addict when she sees one." I believe her
We all hate needles, but Sonny still had to get bloodwork before he fought.
@@calista2000 incorrect, anabolic steroids werent a banned substance until 1976
@@lovelyhiphop7528 Who's talking about steroids?
She would say different things in different interviews, other times she acted surprised at the idea that it was suspected he was murdered, saying he wasn't in anyone's way and they were about to go to Japan for him to referee a fight.
@Phil Wilson I agree
Sonny Liston a enigma wrapped up in a mystery, from birth to death, sad hard life, abuse, used and vilified. RIP Charles 'Sonny' Listen
Sonny Liston was mentioned in the Munsters episode with the drag car Dragula. Granpa says “Sonny Liston once said “ It’s not how you play the game that counts,Winning is what counts”
In the Flintstones cartoons too;; he was black not too many blacks 📺 in the 60s::
There was another episode where lily mentions Sonny liston .
sonny was taking. advantage of by the mob.he was a great heavy weight.
Sony Liston was the best fighter of all time
Sonny liston invincible & bonecrushing punching power 1950/ very early 1960s;; :: rocky Marciano retired at 32 years :::::: same age sonny liston fought muhammad ali 32
Without the mob, you or nobody would have ever heard of Sonny Liston z
@@hassanx9423 cannot change history; either way ;; sonny liston made a living out the mob:::I rather talk rocky Marciano vs sonny liston; before rocky Marciano retired like 1955;; or prime sonny liston bonecrushing punching power 1950s/very early. 1960s:: 1960 / ; 1962 invincible
@@lloydkline1518 exactly what I said … there would be no Sonny without the mob.
Great book sonny s life is complicated and intriguing now going to read it again 4th time
Sonny was a destroyer no heavy today would last long
I cannot imagine anyone strong enough to hold down Sonny Liston I giving him a shot in his arm that man could break bones in people's face with his hands.
Don't technically have to hold him down, if he's cornered by several guys with guns and they tell him to inject it or something happens to his wife he doesn't really have much of a choice.
@@kevthegoat8774 THANK YOU, some people are so naive, it had to be at least four to six guys in that house that day. The police did a shoddy investigation.
Might of had guns on him ,geese
A women doesn’t have to over power a man she can seduce him and have him even more vulnerable than he would be if he was overpowered.
Wow, never witnessed a man have such trouble controlling phones ringing in the background
Man, for real. You know you have an interview, silence the cell phone or pull the cord on the landline. He's a reporter too, you think he'd realize how distracting it is to have someone's phone ringing while you're trying to talk
I met Sonny a few months before he died. I was playing blackjack ($100. per hand) at the International Hotel in Las Vegas. It was around 3:00 am and I was the only player at the table. All of a sudden Sonny pulls out the chair next to me and sits down and smiles at me. I shook sonny's hand and continued to gamble. After a few winning hands, Sonny nudges me with his elbow and says "hey man how about you put me in the game" I just looked at him but didn't know what to say. Sonny got his face right into my face and said "put me in the game" his face changed and I got to see the look that turned other men into mush. I gave Sonny a few chips and as soon as he made a bet I got up and left, real fast.
So basically he pressed up on you for some chips? I believe he started shooting dope out of despair and frustration
nice story but that would have been 51 years ago - I doubt you were even born then.
@@biff408 I was born in 1949
@@RonnieMinh interesting- that means back in 1970 you had 100 per hand to spend at the age of 21. How you had that kind of money in that era where money was worth a lot more than today would be the interesting story to tell (assuming everything you stated is true). Not to be insulting, but I'll take this tale with a grain of salt.
Wow; lucky met sonny liston;: bonecrushing punching power
How is civil rights politics, that's just being a good human being
He was terrified of needles.... They absolutely kyld him
When I was growing up, their was nothing like the heavyweight division in Boxing. Muhammad Ali I considered the greatest boxer I ever saw. I never saw Louis, Marciano, etc. Mayweather wasn't heavyweight. Sugar Ray Leanord, Hagler, Mayweather were great boxers. Ali, Forman. Frazier, Norton, Tyson, Holyfield etc. Ali went through troubled times. He was the greatest.
Here they talk about the death of Charles "Sonny" Liston,not about how great was Ali,why you do not take your love for Ali to a video where he is the main protagonist.You have no respect for Liston.
I honestly couldn't agree more with you, I truly believe no one has ever beat Liston fairly. Liston only lost fights when he was told to, Liston fought in a era when the mob had just as much control as the American government.
Great researched book
These men definitely did their research ...100% true, My Father did meet JFK and was also subject to tremendous pushback on giving Liston a chance at the title. My Father's logic was: What is the title worth, if those who deserve a chance, are denied such.
I remember seeing a picture of a smiling Sonny Liston at a Italian parade wearing one of those old kiss me I'm Italian bottoms a happy picture of Sonny, RIP SONNY you were very misunderstood
Fascinating work here. Thanks 👍
My consensus is maybe someone else was there in that house of course I can be wrong then she stated the lawyer told her to call the cops but she said they came a few minutes later. If she didn’t who did I will reassess her interview again.
As soon as you know sonny liston was being managed by the MOB , there’s your answer to how he died. The heroin thing is funny, liston snorted cocaine he was petrified of needles…
A tragic figure was Sonny Liston......Absolutely great book ! 👍..Subscribed..
Sonny threw the Clay fight due to the gambling debts he accumulated. His gambling vice was his demise.😢
The audio book is f’ing fantastic
I’ve listened several times through
What audio book do tell please.
@@Tamara-ny2ey the Murder of Sonny Liston by Shaun Assael
I need to improve on my personality I am not a people person. Maybe it's hard for me to open up. Everyone is different
Eh ?
And personally I no so do a lot off others. At that time!!! He sonny was way ahead mentally off that time. At least 10 years ahead. Mentally. He was sharp quick witty funny and he didn’t intimidate anyone. It’s just the way he looks. But the media have to write some
Ba about us every time they get a chance too.
Indeed! Sonny was the original intimidator! Liston would've beaten Ali ten years earlier when he was in his prime & 30 years old.
You got one job. Make sure we can hear the person being interviewed.
I think the mob killed him yes
He got much of it right. However, I discount anyone who writes about or discusses Sonny Liston who doesn't know that the first fight with Ali was also fixed. Sport's Illustrated, one of the biggest names in sports, called the first Ali/Liston fight one of the top ten events in sports history. How embarrassing for them, that they don't know that the first Ali/Liston fight was fixed.
Good point re crimes that can be solved. Thank you for posting this.
Big charles Spnny Liston was rumoured to be in his mid Forties when he gave Clay an opportunity to Fight for the heavyweight champian back in 1962....There was much speculation the Sonny Never went to school very much, and unfortunately was for the most part part ilterate....sonny was the # 20th child out of 22 siblings, and his Father was an extremely Harsh, angry & abusive man....mr. Liston treated Sonny terrible, and used Sonny as an animal thus, Reducing Sonny to essentially an animal for pulling the plow when their literal Mule dies!......Anyway, back to the original narative, Big Sonny may have been about 40 when he faught Clay( not trying to minimize Cassus's Clay's awsome tallent) so it is unclear how a much younger Sonny wouldve performed had he Fought a more even aponent,in terms of youthfuLness.....i believe Clay probably would have defeated Sonny Nonetheless, but wouldnt it have been intesting to watch a boxing match between these great pugilis when voth were kn their early twenties?.....im thinking that Sonny wouldve deopped Clay like Snoop would say, "drop him like its hot"?
I feel the same way about the credibility of his wife..waaaay too much funny stuff. 1. ok I get visiting your folks for the Holiday's, we all have done that at one time. But why be away from your spouse for that long period of time that you been married to for well over a decade. 🤔 who wouldn't want to get away huh! It can be a joke or it can be serious. 2. they both knew hundreds of people. Family friends etc. Why on God's green earth are you not going to phone a friend or relative and tell them "hey go check on my husband" " he's not answering the phone after three or four days" 🤔😮 let alone two weeks that passed! 😮 3. what role did she play? Because if you give Hollywood any credit then in the Liston movie played by Ving Rhames his wife had every right to be hurt and full of anger and hate. Thats if you give any credibility to that. But some how it ties into the strange accounts of the unexplained. 🤔 3. why not call the police right away. Who calls a Lawyer! Now think about that. What does a lawyer do? What is his/her role? To defend or represent right! At such a time why would there be a need for one and your husband is dead. Guilt? Protection? Help on what to do? Advise? Apparently you can't help your husband so how could a lawyer assist you In a time the police and ambulances/ coroner is needed before anyone else. 🤔 4. She knew what she smelled as soon as she hit that front door! Who in their right mind would leave food or trash out for days to stink up the place! So why would she make that statement! Simple she knew what happened to Sonny and was apart of it. That would be the most logical thing to say what she said as if she were coached. 5. Who ordered the scene to be so well controlled? You have the Boogeyman of boxing hated by most around that time and no photographer no photo's no news? There was something to hide and the risk of going back to reveiew things would hurt? No nothing not even on Google images. 🤔 she definitely knew more than she lead on IMO. I think Sonny was dead b4 she left and they lied to throw people of with that newspaper and milk crap. Just to add credibility to a hatched scene created..and her phoning the Lawyer was her way of keeping her out of the mix and not telling it all. She is just as guilty as the ones who helped her or did it by themselves..thats my theory..
i like many other believe sonny was murdered for sure and he took a dive against ali second fight
Ali usually had respect for his opponents he used to put on a show to promote the fight he knew Sonny was dangerous and didn't underestimate Liston even saying later in his career Sonny Liston was a good fighter He went overboard with Joe Frazier but had alot of respect for Joe as far as Frazier he built a hatred for Ali but still knew Ali was a great fighter The only time I ever seen Ali show true hatred towards a fighter was Earnie Terrell who kept taunting Ali by calling him Cassuis Clay Ali punished him Ali himself said after his career he never truly thought he was the greatest he used to like to build the fight up and then he praised Joe Frazier saying nobody's that great
He most likely had enemies it wasn't alot easier back then to get away with murder. Pretty sad. He was mean so it's no surprise that people didn't like him
No he was great guy that was takin and used as a fuccin weapon I believe him and Marciano were murdered
@@therealdeal8277 something happened murders sometimes go unsolved for many yrs. It's sad but that's kind of the negative side of sports. Rocky Marciano was too nice of a man also a great boxer
L.O.L
That's the golden GLOVES, not the Golden globes.
I think the muslim brotherhood paid the mob for throwing the fight,and also the mob did huge from gambling, winning from both sides.And in the second was maybe something about regarding Sonny to be KO in the first round.
She was n on it
SONNY LISTON WE LOVE. YOU.F WHAT DA OTHER BBN PEOPLE SAY.PERIOD
Next time you have an interview...CUT THE PHONES.
Lmao 😂 white snow 17:41 heroin? And white snow ? Sorry mate. Nice try. He’s a martyr end game.
Fear
Great researched book