"After Death No One Judges Us" | Death Researcher Robert Christophor Coppes in Conversation
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Robert Christophor Coppes is one of the most internationally renowned death researchers of our time. He holds a doctorate in economics, was born in Venezuela, grew up in the Netherlands and has been intensively involved with near-death experiences for many years - also as an author.
One of his lectures has the title "Near-death Experiences Change the World". This lecture was the occasion for this conversation. It deals with central research results of thanatology, and Christophor Coppes also tells a lot about his personal approach to the topic of death and the afterlife.
Information: www.bobcoppes.com
Book: www.amazon.de/-/en/Robert-Chr...
Contents:
00:00:00 Preview
00:01:19 Why might near-death experiences change the world?
00:02:35 Veridical observations
00:06:04 The search for evidence and the AWARE study.
00:09:02 The individuality of near-death experiences.
00:10:37 "After death, no one judges us"
00:13:24 Love as the absolute standard
00:14:02 The essence of religions
00:15:31 The concept of "God"
00:17:03 The life review in near-death experiences
00:20:22 Hyperreality
00:22:53 The task in life
00:29:30 The change of religiosity through near-death experiences
00:30:52 Unconditional love
00:33:44 Why are we so far from experiencing love and oneness?
00:36:10 Development - and the (possible) meaning of life
00:39:29 Near-death experiences and the nature of consciousness
00:41:50 Free will and future vision - how do they fit together?
00:43:46 Does thanatology always start over again?
Credits:
Interview: Werner Huemer
Director: Heike Sucky
Translation: Werner Huemer
Original subtitles: Heike Funke
Editor: Werner Huemer
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I once only believed in science. Until I had my experiences that changed me. I learned LOVE and that we are ONE. I knew nothing about any of this beforehand, I had nothing to go off of. Interesting that this is explained in this video. I am Thankful for the gift of knowing. The Holy Spirit is LOVE💖💖💖 I know this now.
i am similar to you in that I used to be scientific and skeptical about things like OBEs/NDEs UNTIL I have the experience myself, and then it completely changed my point of view.
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I love science and am also very spiritual. Science isn't a "belief."
What does science have anything to do with what you're saying? Science has done more than anything else at unraveling God. Science has shown more or less how God creates in our reality. Science is not the enemy & assuming that it is absolutely makes no sense whatsoever I'm sorry.
@@mygirldarbyamen to that
What a great interview! As a physician, it's a struggle for me to share this knowledge. We are legally liable at the office, outside we are faced with people in a state of deep forgetfulness, some of them are aggressive to know about consciousness, and a percentage will actively fight and ridicule you. It's important to know when to communicate and who to leave alone. When someone is receptive, I think it's important to find the courage to speak about it. We got deeply lost here in many cases, a realistic game is fine, but the level of suffering at some points is extreme.
It's good to hear this human perspective from someone in the medical community. I lost my sister recently and it was so deeply impersonal and cold.
@@ruckbogerHUGGZ! ❤😢 Sending you BLESSINGS
What a wise, thoughtful man.
Thank you for that compliment
"There is no death. Only a change of worlds." - Chief Seattle
A very interesting interview. Mr Coppes is clearly passionate about the topic. The idea that everyone is loved equally, regardless of behaviour, is a good antidote to the religious beliefs that state that humanity is hopelessly flawed. It is interesting to observe how the NDE phenomenon has evolved over the years and I am quite sure it is changing the collective God image, regardless of the small minority who choose to interpret their experiences through existing belief systems. The interviews on this channel are exceptional.
NDE/Past life Experiences: The deciding factor why I'm an Ex-Christian.
@@JustReed I believe that Jesus is the highest of the high, but I do not believe Christians are the best spokespeople for Him. Does this make me (or you) an Ex-Christian? Who says you have take the Bible literally to be a Christian? Can a person believe in Jesus while denouncing Christianity? I say YES!
Thank you. He conveys such warmth and gentleness.
Thank you. Sweet of you to say.
Great guest ❤. Thank you 🙏
I've had two NDEs: he's right about no judgement. We will experience the effects of our actions on everyone, but we're accompanied by light beings.
The love is more enormous than anything in this realm. Take care, everyone.
Blessings and thank you both, Werner and Mr. Coppes.
Can you share with us your NDE experiences in more detail please?
Can you describe more of what is ment by "but we are accompanied by light beings"?
@@amind1317beings of light, people or "angels", figures emanating light, spirit guides, relatives souls made of light, guardians.... there are many words put to these.... beings/people/figures of glowing light.
@@nomad9338Hi, I'm just seeing your comment. I'll be brief 🍃🦋
In my first one, I was 4 and fell off a third floor balcony. I was greeted by wingless flying beings with light where their faces would have been. They were joyful and familiar.
In the second one, I was 19 and dying from an undiagnosed ectopic pregnancy. I was greeted by my great-grandfather and an old family dog. Tbh, the love alone was enough reason to stay there, but I wasn't given a choice. 😊
That was over 40 years ago and I've had a lot of STEs (spiritually transformative experiences) as well that I attribute to the d
NDEs. I urge folks to know their angels are always present - they have nothing to do with religion... but are part of life itself.
Wishing you every blessing.
BB in Los Angeles
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I want to use the word 'angel' because that's what they are, but they're not affiliated with religion. (Tho I'm sure there are belief systems across the veil, too, it's not part of my experience.
I experienced something personal with Jesus and it was the exact opposite of a Jesus connected to religion, as well.
Light on the other side functions in ways that are impossible to fully understand, but I think some levels of it are actually spirits our eyes aren't powerful enough to see.
It's obviously too big a topic for me to address wisely.
It's why I'm glad there are so many good videos and books about the subject.
Blessings to you!
As someone who has experience beyond maximum intensity in the NDE-C Scale or Greyson Scale, I am impressed with this summary and presentation acumen.
People's accounts and the general information in the the subject have helped me to color in a lot of the context to my own experience and the subject phenomena as a whole being investigated in this video. The scope of most experiencers' experiences do not seem to embody as much of the subject as some experiencers' experiences do.
People like Christopher Coppes temporarily alleviate some of the senses of what almost feels like a burden of peerless experience. People like him are impressive.
Thank you for your wonderful compliment
Thank you so much for the english version! Love it!! ❤
Thank you for looking at it
I have been thinking of some of these questions for years. About the purpose of life: I think it is to evolve God. We are a tiny drop of water from the ocean, a tiny particle of God, and come here to expand that particle. So when we go back into the ocean, we take a particle of upgraded software with us and so evolve God. The more people there are, the greater God evolves because there are more good people growing in life. The people who do not upgrade themselves, or who do not learn much go back as they came in - that is, somewhat limited. But the net gain for God is an upgrade of "his" perfection! The question of seeing the future, which is the same as reincarnation and the same as "pre-birth planning" and the same as past-lives happens because there is no time in non-local space. All potential is already there and we see all potential when we are on the other side. But when we come back, we do not know how to describe , say, seeing another life, which is just another potential in the afterlife, so we say it is a past-life or a future life. But it is just everything happening at once. We do not have words to describe this, so we do a little embellishment to make sense of it. My name is Zoe Windeler.
Enjoyed this very much! Many thanks to Christopher Coppes and Thanatos for presenting this speaker!
Thank you. You are most welcome.
Great conversation! Like how he explains oneness around the 38:00 mark.
Glad you liked it. There is another comparison I like. We are all 8 bin cups of water scooped out of the Ocean. When a child is born, a new cup is scooped out of that ocean. If someone dies, the cup is thrown back into the ocean. Eventually, we are all the same matter and we are ONE.
Yes! No one judges you! And unconditional love is true. I'm very glad to find this channel. Thank you
"After Death No One Judges Us"
Don't count on it.
Most NDE’s are not talking about Hell, but many do. This interview seems to ignore Jesus, tho a great many NDE’s do have Jesus as their Lord. Quite a lot of those include Jesus warning of Hell by showing what happens there.
The physicist and consciousness explorer Tom Campbell has some very interesting ideas about free will and predicting the future. He maintains futures are probable, some more than others, and all that changes as time moves forward and people make choices. I explain it poorly, but he's a fascinating man (and also advocates love, cooperation, helpfulness, and patience as key). Great thanks to Thanatos TV for these videos!
Marvelous interview; thank you gentlemen.
I am glad you talked about being 'happier there and here, if we add more love to the world'...otherwise it's easy for (some) people to think they can do what they like, including to others, and there are NO consequences. That thinking does not make for a better world, right here right now. Thanks for the broadcast.
Once I stopped focusing on religion (or spirituality if you like it's all the same to me). I started focusing on what was taught "Treat others the way you would like to be treated love your enemy as you love yourself and pray for them" My life got so much easier.
That is the essence of Christianity 😊
It is actually there in the Old Testament - "the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it"- so it points out that the body returns to the dust, and the spiritual essence returns to God.
Do away with the manmade bible
The Old testament is full of god killing people for trivial reasons, full of sexual inequality, racial hatred, slavery, animal cruelty, revenge mentality, wicked n hideous character of the manmade god
*The LIGHT is "LIFE The Real Self" ! I was pronounced "DEAD On ARRIVAL" at a medical center in 1973. More than half an hour passed, then my heart started again. During that time I, "LIFE The Real Self", entered the WHITE LIGHT, and have remained in the WHITE LIGHT to this day. Those who claim to have returned, have NOT recognized WHAT, The WHITE LIGHT actually is. When you do, and accept it, you shall remain in The LIGHT as I have.*
So, how being in the light does affect you ?
Thank you.
@@E-Kat *One is Self Aware of LIFE... I also have access to The ALL ! But in saying this I want for nothing....*
I became a neuroscientist because I hoped it would give answers about life. However, it didn't. No physical science can. Answers lie within ourselves, through deep introspection.
The message that we're all one has the power to solve all our problems and bring universal happiness. It just needs to be repeated and pondered over time. It's true that all religions teach this at their core, but there is a relatively new and little known religion called Baha'i which has this teaching at it's core. Baha'u'llah, the Prophet of the Baha'i Faith, also makes the statement that "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." Not only are we one spiritually, but now is the beginning of a new planetary civilization in which we will become one people on the earth. This might sound impossible now, but who would have thought back in 1850 that the warring European countries would eventually form a union? Baha'u'llah's explanation of what happens at the time of death is very consistent with NDE experiences. He explained the impossibility of explaining our condition after death by comparing this to the baby in the womb being unable to ever understand the world it will be born into. The fetus develops all the various physical organs, like eyes, ears, arms and legs without knowing how these will be vital when he is born into the world. In the same way we grow spiritual virtues such as compassion, love, generosity, empathy, etc. which will be like our spiritual "organs" which will allow us to experience the spiritual worlds and accomplish whatever is needed in that new condition.
Great wisdom about our spirituality. Our soul is God’s essence, which is unconditional love. We already are what we’re searching for - God. All is everything, and everything - is one.
Exactly! Thanks for listening to me
Lovely!!
there already has been a study that shows we leave our bodies, it was conducted in the 1970’s by Robert Monroe. he’s written three books about it. they are fascinating. (all of us leave our bodies every night while we sleep;)
There are more things in heaven and earth than we can ever imagine. 🥰🥰🥰
I loved the question you asked, Mr. Huemer, "and why are we so far away from that (love, and the experience of Oneness) in our lives?"
Very good interview
*Off The Left Eye* is a channel about Swedenborg. He was about 300 year before all this NDE. Swedenborg says that the love is there but you are not allowed to misbehave among others in heaven, that will be taken care of.
An important topic, thanks
Thanks so much for this enlightening interview...Indeed a missionary work done by Mr. Christopher. Shall wait to read the book once it's published and available in India. Many thanks to Thanatos TV
It's already available
thank for this very informative.
Thank you for this, I had a very cruel mother and even though she died 4 years ago I can still feel the anger about it, I can now forgive her and let it go
I too had a cruel mother. She was very verbally abusive and physically too 😢 I haven't forgiven her as of yet. She died 12 yrs. ago.
Great program. Loved listening to the author, he was very kind and gentle in sharing this sensitive information. Having had a Distressing NDE, I know that what he is speaking about is true!
Are u able to share a bit? Did you see anything that seemed like hell? Thank you ❤
misfitinhelltoheavenexpat -- Could you respond please?
I wrote down the quote by Christina; what a beautiful message, during a tragic incident....
One interesting thing I noticed working with people from different cultures, every corner of the globe, is that everyone had essentially the same concept of a heavenly afterlife. Whether this person was religious or not, whether they believed it or not, the concept itself is universal and ubiquitous.
Time 19:45: Very interesting! We always have options, and we need to choose the option that brings love
What has never lived can never die. Remembering good times…
What is dead can never die - Game of Thrones :)
Or what has always been can never not be ;)
Sorry for your losses lads but this stuff implies it won't be a permanent parting
when a common consciousness experiences an atomic phenomenon it knows self doubt, and when it pulls away it reunites. We are that part of the greater self, the part that continues to remember that experience.
No one judges us neither living nor dead, until the Judgement Day comes - for all to experience it…
There is no judgement, that is what I learned from NDErs. Judgement Day is in the Bible, it is not what is said by NDErs. If someone judges you, it is you.
The tabernacle of unity hath been raised; regard ye not one another as strangers. Ye are the fruits of one tree, and the leaves of one branch - Bahá’u’lláh
It was a fantastic interview, as Mr Cooper was trying to be as objective as possible about all NDEs he knew personally or read about, which made more sense. The questions were excellent and well-prepared, as they're the kinds of questions that most people think about regarding NDEs. However, many people in general still wonder about the unfairness, cruelty and suffering worldwide, which mostly happen to good people, innocent children and helpless animals. Then we hear that it might be a game we're here to develop. It's all about love. Many people refuse this idea as they see that some people, animals and children just lived to suffer and then died, even in cruel ways sometimes. How and why. As Mr Cooper said, it could be a game, but it's not for those suffering the most. Anyway, I agree that as we live in 4 dimensions and limitations, we might not be able to see the whole picture, not even a tiny part. It makes sense that the more love and understanding towards others, the more we put love in this world, but many other questions remain unanswered
I agree, it is difficult to understand why there must be suffering in this world. What I understand from some NDErs is that this world was created with its limitations to make it possible for people to practice love. Imagine that you live in a perfect world, then there wouldn't be any chances to do good. It all is good. Therefore, if it is a limited world, with fewer dimensions, then we have more opportunities to choose from. But no-one really knows the real answer, yet...
If an alien came to earth and asked 50 people around the globe what their life is like, they'd get 50 different answers... but with similarities.... just like death. Life and death... different for everyone
I believe the second you take your last breath, your soul leaves your body. The soul continues on and what is left is absolutely a shell.
I don't understand that researcher's point of view: even though they seem to be rare, some say their NDE's are very negative experiences. Why doesn't he take these into account?
In quantum physics it is possible for a particle to be in two places at the same time. If it is possible in the quantum world, it is possible in the spiritual world too.
I am not sure it's a "spiritual world", as you describe, but more likely the next life is about exploring the different infinite levels of reality, and perhaps the cosmos. I read about people who during their NDEs travel to other planets, and other dimensions, but I am not sure they're a "spiritual world" though I could be wrong. Think of it like a cake with many different layers...well perhaps there are infinite "layers" once we leave the body.
Absolutely, I believe the same way. You do judge yourself wholeheartedly and you need to come to terms from the reality of life
Your on a different realm right here on earth. Just in another space but your soul is here among the living in a whole different world
Doing any heinous atrocity against the humanity, whoever commits this still go to heaven bestowed with full love and graceful benevolence!?
I believe you have a choice before your born, and understand the meaning of coming in to the world.
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I’m catholic and we are told that when you die that is exactly when do get judged. Worrying to say the least.
I am also catholic and judgement is a construct which instills fear and social control .
What is worrying? On the contrary. It is wonderful that there is no judgement and that we all are loved unconditionally. Even the people that you thing cannot be loved. God/Spirt/the ONE is bigger than any religion.
@heavenisforall It's a dangerous myth to think you can do what you want without consequences. I believe that, yes, we judge ourselves but we will also know when in spirit form that we deserve punishment for our wrongdoings
True.
I do wonder what sort of unconditional love Hitler felt in the next life. He made MILLIONS suffer the most horrendous fear, heartache and misery. I do hope before he felt unconditional love, he was made to feel all of that despair that he created on earth. Think of the little children being torn apart from their parents in the concentration camps. Hitler advocated that.
On the other hand, I do believe we are all ONE. I will just never understand "EVIL" people who live time on earth and do horrendous things. Why were they allowed to do that? What lessons or tasks were they part of? Why do people have to suffer in such a horrible way?
We will not know this while being on Earth. We will understand when we are united with ONE. What we know from Life Reviews in NDEs is that people will be able to see and feel what they have done to others as if they are those others (because we are ONE).
I believe they are in a different realm
❤❤❤ there is only love, and God is love🦋❤️
Do people who committed heinous crimes get away with it after death?
If I die and I am a “higher spirit or being” that was just existing on Earth as the person I am today and I return to that place out there somewhere and remember who I really am and also the experiences and lives of the people I once was as well in this life and others - then that is fine and acceptable. I will still be me, but also more: I will be the real me who is also other people that once lived on Earth. I continue.
But if I die and am like a water returning to an ocean and merging with it… then I cease to be and the ocean takes me back in and I, the person that is right now on Earth just becomes a memory or recording stored in the ocean. The ocean continues, but I do not. I am, for all purposes “dead.” I die. I cease to exist as a thinking, personal being. This is, of course, for all intents, the same as what materialists (physicalists) believe death is. The end.
Yet, if we do return to the ocean then how is it that people remember previous lives in their NDEs? There must be some greater “Self” that continues on and remembers every life and person they have been all wrapped into one grand being: you. Your true “Self.” So how can both the Ocean (or God if you prefer) and Individuality exist simultaneously? How can it be both? Are you an Individual and connected to the Ocean (which is everyone else?) as well? This aspect of what people describe in NDEs confuses me deeply and I wish there were better explanations from NDErs.
But maybe the individual ceases to exist, because the essence of any person is God/spirit/the ONE. There are quotes in my book that point in that direction. One person said: even the consciousness disappears and we dissolve in whatever we call the Godhead (p.160 of Impressions of Near-Death Experiences)
Not everyone experiences a loving NDE. About 10% have a terrifying hellish experience
So 90% of people are not sinners or they were "forgiven" and only 10% go to hell? Those are pretty good odds, lol.
In my book I have a whole chapter about distressing NDEs. One conclusion: it is wrong to say that "bad" people get distressing NDEs and "good" people get blissful ones. There must be another explanation. In my book I follow Nancy Evans Bush in her ideas.
@@mygirldarby That's not quite how it is. In my book I have a whole chapter about distressing NDEs. One conclusion: it is wrong to say that "bad" people get distressing NDEs and "good" people get blissful ones. There must be another explanation. In my book I follow Nancy Evans Bush in her ideas.
Most people don't want to admit having a hellish NDE, so there are more of them than are documented .
No one was judged because the judgment day hasn't arrived. It's important to recognise that the next world is not all one stop. And that NDEiers reach different stages in their journey.
The last judgment will occur when the last person makes that last judgement
No we.do.have.to go thru.sufferings for.our bad deeds.and vice versa..Dont we c.all kinds of good and.bad people go thru on earth.Our souls.r pure.so Uncondtional.love up there but on earth.the.Consequences of.our.actions every action has a reaction
Never the same. That is the center point of your entire life.
What is the purpose of babies being born to die from cancer?
Why two days of a wait? 😑
its alive now
Kann nicht auf deutsch umstellen.help
The interviewer doesn't know much about the Life and Teachings of Christ if he thinks that religious people would be surprised that God loves everyone unconditionally!
Some religious people believe you will go to hell for eternity unless you are their specific religion. That's not unconditional love.
You are right. There is little understanding about what Jesus actually said. Religions have distorted it.
And that is not the teachings of Christ@@mygirldarby
religions are too distorted interpreted and re-interpreted to the point that the truth about what God/Jesus actually said and did has become fiction unfortunately.
Philosophically, in my opinion, anecdotal verification is every bit as scientific as laboratory-controlled studies. The crucial point is whether all variables are accounted for--not whether they are "controlled." In other words, it doesn't matter who controls the variables, the circumstances or human beings, so long as they cannot have influenced the results. The belief that laboratory-controlled studies are "more scientific" is a myth.
there is the illusion of free will ;)
Time 32:20, "But other sinful people experienced hell in their NDE. You cannot kill people and you expect love."
Well, I'd say this gentleman only gives a summary of what he has heard and read about nde experiences. He hasn't experienced anything like a near death or out-of-body experience, he is a doctor in economics, has been ''involved'' in nde research and he wrote books on the topic; how can his professional background make him an expert in that field???
I agree with you.
People like him are helping to organize a sort of general consensus from experiencers. For better AND for worse, our species is entering the millennium of the last religion.
Historically, the biggest churches have always been the ones that understand how to generate objective interest in spiritual subjectivity for the masses of nonexperencers.
I became an expert in this field because of my interest. I have spoken to hundreds of NDErs and read/listened to many more. What I did is organize a lot of quotes in categories that are apparent from NDEs. Anyone can do this. I did it, and wrote it in a book. You don't need to have had an NDE to get an impression of what it is. You just need to hear/read/see a multitude of people talk about their NDE. In any case: thank you for your comment.
NDE researcher.... extensive research and data collection = expert knowledge aquired on the subject.
What's your problem with that?
Every NDE is different, but clearly, there are common points. Taxonomy is important. It would be great to see the development of a database collating NDE testimonies professional NDE study centres, classifying experiences according to a range of experiential criteria.
You can't talk about science and not have a database!
I'm sure IANDS have the most extensive database.
No Islam doesn't describe God as a third entity, Coran says that "God is closer to you than your jugular vein".
Thanatos is the god of death
All this till we get to know about japanese NDE .They dont meet inconditionnal love no love just a light. No beloved dead ones are met, no heavenly being, no life revew sic...
Fascinating!!!! I wish we had answers to why the cultural differences when otherwise there are so many similarities across cultures ans continents.
This is not true. Read the study, there is a feeling of unconditional love for some of the subjects and euphoric happiness/contentment for others.
It is called karma.
The reason nde don’t get judged is because that happens at the end of Armageddon not before. We will all stand in Judgement don’t be fooled.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but by him.
Come on please, the appropriate authorities already know that it's real they just have other authorities to dismiss everyone as to keep everything under their control
Social control is the foundation of all governments and religions.
Time 14:47, I disagree. In Islam, God is every where. He's very close to us. The quran says: "Indeed, it is We Who created humankind and fully know what their souls whisper to them, and We are closer to them than their jugular vein"
I wonder if he has cherry-picked the NDEs he chose to analyze as there are also plenty of NDEs from different religious or nonreligious backgrounds who have described being sent to Hell. A full picture of NDEs would include these examples as well.
It's extremely rare to hear of people going to hell during an nde. I think some Christians make it up to scare people.
No, he has a chapter about hellish experiences in his book he says
Ignoring the teachings of Jesus is not wise. There are basically two destinations; Heaven or Hell.
So many many testimonials report both of these.
How can you have unity with some of the evilest of people? I dont like that bit of the afterlife if true.
what a mean channel. Yesterday I posted a polite comment in which I reported the Italian studies on this topic and the evidence of a scientific team, and you banned it! Ridiculous!!!!!
we do not delete polite or factual comments. There must have been another problem
Earthly life wonderful? Compared to the other side? NO comparison! It is much better to leave the earth and stay away from it for eternity. This place sux big time!
I disagree with a lot of your Theories.
My Gut wrenches when i see how you invent excuses for God, his neglectance, his abandonment of us.
Our religious Gods are most likely imposters and attentionseekers.
The Creator of all that is, is most likely beyond our intellektual grasp.
If you tell us that there is nothing bad, i recommend a closer look at Poltergeist-incidents.
No thanks. I've seen what humans mean by "love" and want nothing to do with it, and I can't imagine I'm the only one. I wonder if there is an option for opting out of this experiment. Give people a choice between "love" and eternal unconsciousness and you'd see very few takers for the former.
People chose to opt out as best they can with suicide attempts... only to get to heaven and be sometimes sent back, sometimes reminded that they agreed to their mission and volunteered to experience parts lf their life on earth 🌎 before they came/ were born into physical human bodies....
I personally think of it all a bit like a computer game or simulation. We created our characters and picked out a few of their attributes and hardships before we came, we volunteered ourselves for the mission... we put on our virtual reality headset and entered the physical world
...we all want to take the headset off and abort the game 🎮 but then we are reminded whatever was so attractive about the game in the first place... the experience, the challenge, the unknown...
It seems Heaven must be boring if people volunteer to come to Earth to experience horrendous suffering in some many cases, and lives cut short.....
It only makes sense of it's all game. What we experience as suffering is actually recreation... the avatar in a video game getting injured doesn't mean the real player feels a thing. It seems the only explanation for it all is one big game. 🤷🏼♀️
@@gracebateman777 The road to hell is paved with good intentions. This experiment is nothing more than utter cruelty, and is a judgement on this being...entity..."thing" that deigns to call itself "god". No good can come from this. No reward is worth this sacrifice. It should never have happened. Edit: I do not believe you are wrong. I am not criticising you personally. But without mercy, this is nothing short of torture.