Near-Death Experiences in Eastern Cultures - What We Know
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- In this episode of "Thanatology Up-to-Date", we talk about near-death experiences in international comparison. Do such experiences also occur in Eastern cultures? How are they experienced there? What influence does religion have? Are there elements of experience that occur independently of religion?
The Swiss physician and thanatologist Dr. Reto Eberhard Rast is our discussion partner.
Contents:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:50 General differences between Eastern and Western Cultures
00:05:26 China and the features of NDEs
00:06:42 Thailand and NDEs
00:08:52 NDEs in India
00:11:17 The mix-up in the Middle Ages
00:12:18 NDEs in the Islamic world
00:14:02 NDEs and the importance of religious imprinting
00:16:48 NDEs as evidence for life after death?
Credits:
Director: Heike Sucky
Translation: Katrin Salhenegger-Niamir
Voice-over: Aryan Salhenegger-Niamir, Werner Huemer
Editor, Interviewer: Werner Huemer
℗ Mediaservice Werner Huemer
© 2023 Thanatos TV EN
I am from the Eastern culture,from İstanbul.It's not so different than the Western cultures.For example,the peace and the forgiveness feelings are just the same.People don't want yo go back to the Earth but they are said "You have things to do on Earth and you must go back".One of our celebrities shared it on UA-cam.She is called Esra Oflaz Güvenkaya
I believe that may because it's something we agreed too, before coming into a body. I don't know for sure of course but it makes sense. Why maybe reincarnation exists. We agreed to come here and fulfil something we agreed with and if we leave early (Murder, suicide, accidents...) We are reincarnated.
Thanks for confirming what I've always believed! Religion is man's made but God and our spirituality are universal ❤
Do you have any link in english or spanish of her experience?. O cannot find any. Thanks. 😊
@@veronkasagoShe is a famous businesswoman in Turkey.Her name is Esra Oflaz Güvenkaya,but I don't know how to share a link.I am not good at technology.Sorry for this
@@veronkasagoua-cam.com/video/S5njNTEYBCM/v-deo.html
At the age of five or six I drowned in creek. Breathing in the water was painless, I was instantly out of the body without a care. Suddenly having enhanced vision, and amazingly aware of everything around me, a man appeared wearing what looked like a dark bathrobe which I found strange.
We were speaking telepathically, and gave me the opportunity to go with him. He also showed me the hardships my family would experience with my body's passing. Not wishing to bring such pain on my family, I went back into the body instantly.
There was no bright light, no angelic, winged creatures, nor was there heavenly music playing. But later on, I was reading something about childrens' NDEs and realized the man in the robe was St. Francis.
Breathing in water may have been painless to you but there is a period of pain and that’s when your lungs feel like they’re on fire before you go unconscious from lack of oxygen. Something I’ve experienced first hand.
The reason for the darkness is because you didn't travel to the astral plane you were in a place held what they call limbo and your spirit-guide be it Saint Francis came and reassured you and comforted you will probably meet him again to your journey back home. May God bless you on your journey 🙏
NDE’s are subjective, you see what you need to help with the transition to source
As my preacher passed away in the hospital his wife kept asking him questions and he told her to leave him be because he was about to "cross the river" and that "they were waiting on him on the other side" Happened in America.
I'd love to see someone put out a book that compiles the most recent studies on NDEs in relation to culture, among other factors, such as age, gender, etc. So much of what I see are UA-cam interviews or books by individuals on their personal experience, or references to the Moody work and other works that seem dated. I'm hoping to read research-oriented publications more up to date that flesh out some of the things Dr. Rast discusses here.
I had a very strong dream warning me of my Grand Mother's passing even thought I lived in California and her in Morocco . I was not close to her . The people passing the message in the dream were dressed as the ancient Moroccan People . I was Very surprised about that aspect . So listening to You on the Cultural differences was quiet sparkly to Me . I thank you for this interesting interview. This had happened to me in the early 90's . I also am quiet taken by the telepathic aspect of communication in NDE. Since very young i had this very strong feeling of communication. I fo not know why . It seemed natural
Maybe you should look into doing telepathy, since that feeling is so strong.
The people in traditional clothes may have been your ancestors
If you ever watch the movie mothman prophecy he asks the being what do you look like and he says “it depends on who’s looking”. Reminds me of this
Interesting! Sounds a little bit like what they're talking about in quantum physics
I was watching a documentary about Vietnam they interviewed a Vietnamese soldier who said , he thought he tripped and when he arose there was a big White House in front of him, “he had actually been shot”, he concluded he was in heaven,he went inside and there was a huge table with food on it and he knew if he had eaten some food he would not be able to return, so he refused and returned. This seems like these experiences are tailored to the individual and culture,
Iam looking forward to see Eastern people nde experiences on UA-cam.never see their videos.
There are plenty available on UA-cam
I've always been very curious about how other cultures experience NDE's....somehow I don't think they'd see beings with long white robes or cathedral type buildings that are a part of western culture. I've not been able to find too much published research, or even just first hand stories online, so am really looking forward to this video.
good point, but i listen to alot of NDE's and not too too many of them actually do talk about robes and roman structures, yea a few do say the hall of records looks like that and a few see Jesus, but for the most part it sounds purely spiritual. unless it's on a christian based channel, then i take those accounts with a grain of salt because there is too much dogma
Ffs death T. V
A lot of nders have described heaven written just like the Bible. The golden brick road and big marble buildings. Jewels/crystals are also mentioned and people see that as well. And these are people who didn’t read the Bible before their experiences.
Btw, that Japanese film Dr. Eberhard mentioned is called "After Life". ✨
This a was fascinating interview! Now I hope to hear more about international NDEs. ✨🌙🌈
If I may, please, because it reminded me of cultural differences in these very important events: the 2010 Brazilian film 'Nosso Lar' ('Astral City' w/ English subtitles) was taken from the famous medium Chico Xavier. His spirit guide gave his account of his crossing over and subsequent experiences beyond where NDEs can go, obviously.
A striking aspect of screenplay are the characteristics that overlapped with afterlife reports from other renowned international mediums. And ALL of it was written long before the internet. In other words, the experiencers had no way to compare accounts.
These differences in NDEs - west vs east and along cultural lines - make perfect sense.
In that vein, the NDE I had at 4 was very different from the one I had at 19. What they had in common was a feeling of love so immense that it almost needs another name.
The main trait that NDEs share is the fact that we all came back - lived to tell the tale.
Blessings to all.
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I love the film Afterlife, the Japanese film. So good, amazing perspective. Can't find it now.
There vocabulary , culture, memory , etc.. would have an impact on how they describe what there NDE experience was. In my opinion there are probably more things in common with NDEs across all cultures. It’s just how each individual uses there own vocabulary, education, and, cultural bias to describe them.
After years of having Out of Body Experiences I am fairly certain that consciousness is "non-local", namely, it is somehow part of AND separate to the body. Consciousness and the brain seem to be integral components to one another, and yet I feel the true essence of consciousness (pure consciousness to so speak) is MORE than the brain and is somehow connected to the universe. I also think there are MANY altered states of consciousness. I don't believe there are "other worlds" as such, but it's more to do with other levels of existence which consciousness somehow becomes part of. I think consciousness is infinite. I do not think it's as simple as saying Neuron produces Awareness and that's it. That doesn't add up to me. The only things I am baffled about is why we seem to have no recollection of "pre-birth" life, and why people who have anaesthesia appear to go into oblivion. Saying that, I know people who have had anaesthesia and their consciousness has actually expanded, and left the body. Very strange and mysterious. My gut feeling is we won't understand it until we die, and until consciousness is "released".
I "astral project" myself. Question. Can you observe real world things out of body that there is no way you could know? I cannot, and I'm pretty sure neither you or anyone else cam either. That in and of itself raises serious questions about the idea of "non local" consciousness
That's a Buddhist view. Although I am a Christian. I think NDEs do not tell the whole view of the after life world. Those NDErs will encounter different experiences when they die.
@@geoffreyporter530there many stories where people can relate things they saw while out of body. A.big part of ndes stories have such confirmation. You just should understand that the astral world is a very controlled space and that can be used for us mostly to spiritual growth and not for scientific investigation. If you have a very pro experimental mindset probably your experiences are being restricted by others at the other side
Thank you for making this video. This is exactly what I’ve been looking for.
I have been waiting for this analysis for some time.
Curiously in the NDE experiance of Atheist Jose Hernandez-ATHEIST DIES AND IS SHOCKED BY WHO HE SEES IN HEAVEN 2.4 million hits Mr Hernandez saw Yama the Godess of death & his Rainbow body.
I also viewed an NDE of an anesthesiologist from India living in America who died,& was greeted with archangel Michael.
Past life associations.?
Interesting interview! Thank you Thanatos!
Very interesting talk, thank you both.
This video is heart breaking to me. I had wrapped my hopes around the loving presence of god and my deceased loved ones in the after life. I try to console myself with the experience done at Virginia University where NDErs are subjected to a lie detector and shown death signaling image like snakes etc...The experiencers dont show any signs of anxiety and fear. Non experiencers them do express negative fear emotions.
Why is it heart breaking?
What study are you referring to? The one with a lie detector and somehow snakes are involved?
Thank You So Much💖🙏🏻💖
Would have liked to hear of the after effects of the experience on these individuals. Do they become less materialistic? Are they suicidal? etc...
Valuable information.
It makes sense to draw from our own physical experience to try to comprehend and express, a non physical experience such as an NDE. Maybe it would be like trying to describe a smell to someone who cant smell, or a color to someone who has never seen. I assume what you would get are descriptions relating to what best represents what you are trying to describe. Maybe a person trying to describe the smell of smoke to someone without a sense of smell may say heat, becuse they relate it to fire, whereas another may describe smoke as the fire itself, both are relating smoke to fire, one uses heat instead, the other is more literal and uses fire. Fire is not the only option to relate smoke to, nonetheless, no option is actually a representation of smell. This is where I see many limitations to our communication and expression of non physical experience when observing different cultural discriptions. I most certainly believe our physical representation of a non physical experience is incomprehensible. Do I belive NDE experiencees are providing their experience? Yes. Do I belive it is a true expression of what they experienced? not even remotely. What is facinating is the experience in and of itself. The commonality that it happens, and has been happening speaks. I enjoyed the video.
as a 2x nde i believe that our nde are extremely personal and uniquely individual experiences , no two are the same . there's something to be said about how the person changes , that is a big surprise your like a different person .
The experiences could also be created in a setting for each individual
This is the only opinion that matters so far.
Very interesting video. I look foreward to about this subject. But I hate "talk-over-thing", why not let the persons speak, and then supply with english texting?
Gibt es das Interwiev auch ohne simultane Übersetzung?
Ja, auf unserem deutschsprachigen Kanal: ua-cam.com/video/UdJA2P88qS8/v-deo.html
An NDE has to be tailored to the experiencer because the spirit must choose the correct language to communicate with. They also choose to greet us in a human body instead of a body from another planet. But I am curious if Mohamed greets those of the Islam faith with same frequency that Jesus greets Westerners?
Language is not needed. Typically these are more telepathic and more precise than language
Brian, Yes, I agree with David. Language is a physical world construct. I’m pretty sure telepathy uses something like imagines and sensations
@@davidnorwood5685language doesnt necessarily mean words and sentences.
I agree, we do not know much about how telepathy works, but they know a lot about us when we get there. From what planet we came from down to the smallest detail of our life. My second question is: Why is it commonly Jesus that greets us, or someone who looks like Him? After listening to about 1,000 NDE's I have never heard of Mohammad or Buddha greeting someone. Why?
No most don't see prophet Mohammed, some speak with Allah (God) and small percentage see and intract with Islamic honorable figures, but I have only heard of one where he saw the prophet.
In Islamic experiences its kind of focused on the place and actions not with who they meet.
Hardly any actual info on the actual experiences in hindu or buddhist cultures.
This is a repost, isn't it?
Not remembering or even telling every detail about peoples NDE does not say they did not experience them. They just did not remember or they do think they are not relevant. Because they have to translate their 4D experience into a 3D story, they have to do that, of course, with the symbols of their culture.
We know it is not literally a river, so the imagery should vary.
We don’t know this, but I understand what you are saying.
Everyone has to come back, haven’t we noticed this?
Well it is an NDE - not a D!
Of course, that's how we learn what happened to them.
Abrahamic religions have same experience, while dharmic religions have different NDE
The difference in genes is more important then upbringing ? That's complete pseudo scientific speculation.
Genes are definitely important. Maybe even just as important as one's upbringing
Why I believe most peoples of faith and cultures (Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Hindu's...) see the figures/people that they do. (Jesus, Mohmand, Buddha, Mom & Dad or Family...) They're there to comfort them before getting set back. The hellish/negative experiences may be the FEAR one caries over from there conditioning from what they been taught, but soon find out they are shown the power of their 'Free Will' and they choose to get sent back. If one actually had a hellish experience, you think Satan, the Devil would let you go? I believe NDE's/Past life experiences are showing humanity the real truth of this life. Religion has it all wrong.
If it is showing the reality why is it experienced differently by culture? Is reality that people just see what they expect to see?
Moody didn't stydy Buddhist and Hinduist NDE, because in these religiona there is Yama God of death
Sounds like DMT experience. Apparently your brain releases DMT when you die,maybe to cope with it all.
What evidence do you have that genetics has anything to do with it? If you have none, then why talk about it.
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Because he can and it's an interesting supposition! Relax buddy!
This was a waste of time