You have to admire Lars' creativity. He may have not been the best drummer ever, but he beat boxed his ideas and would then learn it. I think that shows his composition abilities.
He didn't need to be the best drummer ever, but he was a great one. The Lars bashing nonsense is exactly that. The nonsense of a bunch of dumb sheeple.
I totally agree with you, typical thrash sound of those years, it also reminds me a lot of the sound of Dave's guitar that he had on the Peace sells album, very sharp and "ferocious." 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Yes and its wrote by Cliff ... almost the whole song was actually written by him ... from the band that was the last dedication for him as his last song ... also he wrote the lyric for that song ... so basically all credits goes for him for writting that song ... sadly they not really playing tht song live anymore ...
this sounds like my apartment in the 80s.....then my house in the 90s, then........i looked back and here i am 50 yrs old with nothing to show for my life but some really kick memories and some really kick ass nights with my brothers jammin, gettin high wasting a big part of our lives away...hummm...
I'm 35 but am in the same boat (still make music, of a very different kind if you check my channel, thats irrelevant though I think) but the fact that we played, really played music and made it good and loud I think that's really all that matters: who's grass would you rather have been greener, the folks looking at us saying 'damn I wish I could have played music'? Or us looking at some famous musicians saying damn those 'people had a lot of money/fame'? I'd say us. Because what the fuck is money and fame at the end of the when you shared with your best friends the actual real life magic of jams? I'm not exactly expressing myself all that well but I think you know what I'm saying.... ;) Just my thoughts on the matter...
jsogman This is a fantastic point. I've heard so many people who walked more "professional" paths in their lives (office workers, lawyers, etc.) who say "I wish I had just stuck to playing music because it's what I had fun doing". Even if you don't quote-unquote "make it" as a musician the same way that guys like Mustaine or Lars did with all the fame and money, that hardly matters when you remember that those guys got into music because they enjoyed it, not because they were looking for worldwide success. So long as you enjoy playing, there's no need to regret choosing that path, those memories and good times will stay with you longer than money will
BVD same boat man ..we walk a different path..👊👍 how many computer programmers say ..i remember this time we were programming...extra extra...i would rather be a broke guitarists than a boring guy with a Toyota prius and some hag thats just there for your money. .
@@fjnenterprises2359and a lot of DiamondHead!¡ Ps Warner had one of my piss ants videos bänned lol. If anything my video made people listen to more Diamond Head! Oh well HAHA. Napster killed the Radio star :/ ua-cam.com/video/bV5I_JiGCKM/v-deo.htmlsi=DWRSOqrkhI012Nw7 Warner probably did me a favor really, prolly 3 strikes in this video alone. :/
@@fjnenterprises2359 7:30 Sid Vicious wasn’t pleased with this photo, it ( secretly )was why Dave got bounced. Sid on an island with Elvis, gave an order through Frank Sinatra, to HOOK EM’ off the stage!¡! :/
That first riff sets the tone, amazing stuff. Although we all heard it before in their songs, it stays amazing. Just imagine to listen to this back in the day, must be incredible.
6:10 Chosen One (Dave) 6:35 Lucretia (Dave) 10:20 Blood of Heroes (I guess Dave. If this was Dave, riff belongs to Blood of Heroes, however if this was James this study would turn into Until It Sleeps) 12:59 To Live is to die (James) Edit 5:58 The fourhorsemen slow part intro riff (Dave) 8:40 Seek & Destroy last riff (James because he picked up and down with some wrong notes. He had not yet had precise hands for picking. Dave had the precise hands at those days) 2:18 Skull Beneath The Skin First Rough partition (slower) (Dave) 4:53 Ride The Lightning bridge riff between intro and vocal partition (This one is rough. Check this in Rİde The Lightning 32th seconds. In Ride The Lightning you can see notes are pretty same but different stroke and pick) (Absolutely Dave) 8:52 Battery riffs were coming from this study. At 9:42 the bridge transition riff (James)
@@LoePenzz No Judas Priest song is a fully structured thrash song LMFAO. Everything from Motorhead to Angel Witch to JP to 1982 Venom was proto thrash. 'No Life Till Leather' is the first true thrash metal sound, as acknowledged by literally every rock musician from that era. The tone, the attitude, the tempo, riffs, *SOLOS* , vocals were all radically fresh.
@Per Skarva nah Queen of Megadickriders, get over yourselves. Mustaine failed Metal when he got rid of Friedman, fired Menza when he had cancer and repeatedly let go of Ellefson (this doesn't count not giving a shit about Gar dying or treating Poland like shit when they all did drugs and drank), dude is toxic.
Man they really have been living in that sound Dave was creating right here in 1982... There still chugs and the way he was opening on riffs that they've just kept.. It is the way James learned which was from Mustaine so it would make sense.. Buts it crazy to think.. He is so important to what Metallicas sound became.. On albums well past his time with them.. Credited or otherwise.. Mustaine is the man that inspired an entire genre to evolve out of what he did with Metallica and then continued with Megadeth.. Just epic man.
@@metallicaandjustice1 No he had one song Hit the Lights which was from his previous band called Leather Charm.. Which Mustaine then turned into a Thrash song.. Hetfield was a vocalist only.. You'll also see that all their band shots with their respective roles and Hetfield is holding a the mic stand.. No guitar.. He knew basic cords and things but wasn't a guitarist.. Mustaine taught him to play the guitar his way, over 1982.. Hetfield started playing guitar in 1983 about 4 to 5 months before Mustaines exit.. You'll also notice that Ulrich got his name on the credits for Hit the Lights as well as a number of other songs he had no hand in creating.. Jump in the Fire was one of Mustaines first ever songs he wrote in his previous band Panic.. And guess what Ulrich stuck his name on it as well... They guy is a prick.. He stole shit and claimed credit constantly.. One final thing.. A couple of years ago Mustaine got a call from Hetfield asking him if he would OK the release of No Life Till Leather officially.. But Lars wants to have his name added to some of the songs credits namely Mechanix.. To which Mustaine said... Go fuck yourself you aren't getting credits on things he have no part in making.. And if Lars wants it so bad he should be the one calling not using Hetfield as a winch. They could have released it unchanged credits wise... But Lars refused unless he got credits added to the songs... And that folks is the type of person Lars really is.
@@metallicaandjustice1 And here is that quoted from Mustaine personally "James contacted me 2 years ago. We were going to officially release the "No Life Till Leather" demo as a record, w/27 tracks, pics, the whole enchilada, and the talks broke down because Lars wanted credit on two songs I wrote every note and word to. I have the texts. I passed."
Let’s not pretend like the songs Dave wrote or helped write were Metallica’s best songs. Did Dave write Master of Puppets? Creeping Death? Enter Sandman? Nothing Else Matters? Nope. All those songs are staples at Metallica’s shows, those songs turned them into a household name. Dave is awesome, he’s super talented and I’m a Megadeth fan but I get so annoyed of the notion that Metallica only became who they are because of Dave. It’s nonsense
@@PhantomDeth no there is a demo on metal massacre with has Lloyd grant on it’s still a thrash song. This is pre mustaine and james is playing rhythm on it and this was before Dave mustaine joined.Phil ansemo wrote the riff mouth for war for pantera so vocalists can write riffs. Metallica’s origins are to do with both james and Dave but hit the lights was always a thrash song even before Dave was involved. He is not solely responsible for their sound this is just something megadeth fans say because the love Dave mustaine. Dave did not teach James how to play guitar lol do your research.
Cristian Sosa Has I disagree , The breakup was inevitable, James and Lars simply could not play the music Dave would go on to Write , Mustiane had to go get World Class Virtuosos To Record his music , while Metallica peaked very early and then declined into mainstream rock .... somewhere around the time cliff died and The well of Mustiane dried up
@@frankpeltier7711 indeed, ALL THE GOOD SONGs on Kill em al are from Mustaine, as for Cliff Burton being the other genius! after his death u could CLEARLY HEAR how important both men were, even with Justice album the ROCK sounds begins, same as the Black album: Great rock music man! ever since 1990 or so metallica has been playing rock music, only first 3 albums were pure METAL ART thanks to Mustaine and Burton. imagine ALL the music from megadeth pomped into metallica until 1990! if Burton NEVER died they would have been LEgends, unlike this rockband playing rock music.
I think James and Lars wanted to keep control of the band to themselves. Dave was too strong character and they were worried that he will take a leading role.
Ado Podrinje there is only one thing that doesn’t make sense to me, Dove got kicked out because of drinking problems and irresponsible behavior but yet he succeed doing the same and more No to mention that Metallica gain reputation on the early days thanks to Dave’s talent
What some of you people don't realize that James was there as well, and wrote a lot of their riffs. More importantly, this is something I learned, this is likely several jams recorded over a space of time. You can even hear the tape being shut, to finish recording.
7:00 I know I'm probably on crack, but I hear the intro/riff of Sweet Amber being mouthed out by Lars here. If it did somehow resurface from him 20 years later, it was definitely subconscious lol.
HeWolf 587372 , If I had to wonder, I'd say Dave kept it for about 30 years or so and used it for a handkerchief to cry into & wipe his tears - until they all finally attempted to try & bury the hatchet when they had that 1st reunion publicly on stage. Of course, James, Lars, Kirk, Roberto T. & even Jason & Rob McGovney were all there when Dave showed up wearing that old, original, former 'employee uniform' T-shirt that day before any of them actually went out on stage. Lars & James both were shocked to see he still had it. The six guys (besides Dave) all kinda chuckled & sneered a bit at him and James said,"Dave, you can't wear that on stage with us!". Dave, with big, tear filling eyes asked," Well..well why not? You guys called me & invited me here today, didn't you?...Lars, I know that was your own voice on the phone that said I could come jam with you guys!... Why can't I wear my favorite band T-shirt?....🙏pretty please!". In his whiney little begging voice, "It's gonna be just like the old days!". With a dumfounded & slightly irritated face, James replied,"NO... IT'S NOT. Dude, stop your crying. We aren't taking you back in the band. We,re just letting you back on stage for 1 or 2 songs so that fans think we get along now. Jason, same as you! We're not taking YOU back either. You two are back in the cab backstage & out of here as soon as 2 songs are done!... I'll give you another bus ticket instead, Dave. If you're wanting to re-live old memories....and Jason, no singing. Only I get to use a mic! This is just for a publicity stunt and extra money! Now Dave, wear this pink shirt & let's all get out there & get this shit over with!" Wait, one of you two "Roberts" gotta hang a minute backstage here & put more ice on these beers- they're fucking warm! Then wait for me to call you out on stage after I talk to the fans about Cliff for a couple minutes, got it? .... Alright guys, let's go!" 🎸👊💥😂😂😂
Lurtzi so Dave playing the song , earlier doesn’t count ..?.. don’t you understand what plagiarism is ? It’s Dave riff (as we can plainly hear) , so why no credit ..? ... you know why, because Lars and James are as Fake as it comes
Damn... I miss the days of jamming in my buddy's garage... my mismatched CB 700 drums with homemade cymbal stands... recording on an old boombox... circa 1992
Ohhh Yeahh!! Sounds Cool!! I love it, reminds me a session lives of Dave Mustaine is playing some kind of blues in tokyo 1998. ua-cam.com/video/Um-Cc9h1cEk/v-deo.html
***** It wasnt a Child saint, a band called child saints stole it from mustaine and made a song called "child saint" and it was rust in peace polaris. Dave tells that in alex jones interview.
Definitely Mercyful Fate and quite unbelievable, they sound from Melissa album but the latter wasn't yet released. Probably neither their first EP (Nuns Have No Fun) came out at that time.
yea he showed them , RattleHead, the Conjuring, last rites....But They Couldn't Steal Those songs for Killem all....Because They Could Never Play them , not then or Now , You 'tallica rulz' cretins, are a joke
Too hard and complex, also the riffs were so not James style, James style was more seek and destroy, creeping death, fight fire with fire, battery, master of puppets... Just different styles
dave wrote half the songs on that album lmao. he even has writing credits on it. and on a couple of songs on ride the lightning. so i guess you like dave's writing after all ;D
Naw, Hetfield wasnt even playing guitar in Metallica's early days. Mustaine and Holt invented the style. Mustaine's songs on Kill'em All are the stand out tracks.
@@777Eliyahu You do realise Hetfield wrote like 6 of the songs on Kill Em All? 😂😂. Also how did Mustaine and Holt create the genre when Megadeth and Exodus didn’t release their first album until 1985?
@@DarkHallwayz I do "realize" that Hetfield contributed many songs to the album. Quality versus quantity, I prefer Mustaine's songs. Using album dates as a reference for the creation of the genre is a silly, especially in a scene that revolved around tape trading and demos in its early days. Exodus and Metallica with Mustaine were releasing music and playing shows way before any proper albums came out. So no, you're making a bad argument and showing lack of knowledge about early thrash metal.
@@777Eliyahu I’m struggling to see how playing underground shows with small amounts of spectators created a genre, when Metallica released the first actual album of that genre. It’s like saying Candlemass didn’t invent doom metal even though they made the first ever doom metal album
This reminds me of back in the 1990s when I took up guitar and wrote songs with dreams of being in a band. I recorded my guitar parts on to a cassette tape. I recently got it out and converted the tape to MP3 for the fun of it. My timing was all over the place, even editing on audacity to try and fix mistakes, and the intonation of the guitar was off in some songs and others were slightly out of tune. But I shouldn't have given up on the dream after a few failed attempts to form a band. People around the world could have been looking back at that demo the same way they're looking back at Lars' guitar noises on this, if I was ambitious enough.
True but a lot of Metallica's success stemmed from being the right band at the right time with a barely competent drummer (at the time) having connections and early access to a music scene that barely hit the U.S shores. The staggering thing is how Lars winded up running into Mustaine/Hetfield and then brought a long Burton. That much talent winding up with each other and spearheading such a movement is having the stars align. It's not just them being one of the first either. Even if Metallica would've come a bit after Exodus, Slayer and Anthrax etc. Their music still would've stood out among the pack to my ears. They wouldn't have exploded quite like they did but with such songwriting that ended up on RTL-MOP-AJFA, they would've eventually grinded their way to the top regardless imo.
Or ambiguous enough? Once you find a band the inner dynamics have to meld or you will just end up like the Beatles anyway? Don't beat yourself up about it, it is what it is, whom knows what hardships that you missed? It is all water under the bridge. Vanity of vanities, all is vanity. People whom push, will be pushed also. Like movie stars whom think they are above God.
friend, I know it's been 3 years but you should upload those demos to youtube it would be interesting to hear your musical ideas as a teenager, I would listen to it
Cliff. I think that to live is to Die was mostly based on ideas from Cliff. There is some video where Cliff is jamming on a tape some of the riffs in to Live is to Die, before it became a song.
Ja Ova lol..... yea Lars’s humming would have really come In Handy , Megadeth Has So my better and sophisticated songs than this , and when you guys say shit like that ? I know you’ve missed out Big time ....
Frank Peltier I Know Megadeth’s catalogue. But its a cool idea, because Lars has a great ear for music. I have heard everything Megadeth has to offer 80s to early 00s Megadeth was great with the exception of Risk. their new stuff is just whatever not my thing the producing is so average and it sounds like most metal bands out.
Ja Ova lol , so lame , why pretend you’ve even listen ? End game is epic , Dystopia is Epic , United Abominations is Epic , 13 is Killer and The system has failed is A Monster ... what the fuck are you taking about man , Metallica died with Cliff , it was obviously All Dave and Cliffs Music and inspiration , when that left they went mainstream radio pop metal.... Metallica is just a marketing logo like Macdonalds or Walmart
Frank Peltier endgame was average, so was 13... I agree with United Abominations and The system has failed being great. Metallica’s only weak album is St Anger in reality. It seems like Megadeth’s fans have a superiority complex cause deep down they know Megadeth will forever live In Metallica’s shadow as the band from the guy who used to be in Metallica. Unfortunately people will never know the genius of Megadeth especially when fans like you put off people. Megadeth fans are just like Tool fans. My favorite Albums are Peace Sells But Who’s Buying and So far So Good.. So what both masterpieces Rust In Peace a close third
Ja Ova at the end of the day Megadeths musicianship will be remembered over all , Metallica bullshit popularity is just that POPularity , live in their shadow ?? Lol only to you mainstream radio, fake pose bots You think pop metal like the black, load loads , lulu, Mega-netic - death (like we didn’t see that one ) and soft weird to implode are “good” ? those clowns shit out albums and you idiots eat it up , Megadeth is a Galactic Mile Past , the marketing logo called Metallica
12:58 idk if Cliff was in the band at this time but thats some freaky shit. Imagine being in a band and then they come up with a riff that ends up on a tribute song about your death
This was in mcgovneys garage in LA the bassist before cliff. They hadn't moved to San fran yet so cliff wasn't in the band just yet What song did the riff end up being in ?
I’m late on this video I don’t know if anyone would see this. But consider this. If they never fired Dave they never would have hired Kirk. Now imagine if cliff and Dave had certain sleeping arrangements on a certain day that would led to Dave get thrown out of a certain bus that ended his career early. We’d still have cliff but everything you hear about him now would be getting said about Dave. Crazy shit
Some of these riffs sound primitive compared to now , but thats how I like it ! Plus I know they were just bouncing ideas around too . I love it . Very cool to hear my friend . It was a very different time then . Born in 78 I missed it by a few years as it comes to playing in bands . But I was still inspired by both bands . I became a metal head young in 86 at 8 yrs old and still holding the torch for metal ! At least trying to keep it kindled lol !
Hahaha, the only reason 'Chosen Ones' and 'Poison Was The Cure' didn't become Metallica songs on RTL was coz Lars and James were searching for tabs of Mustaine's jam tracks.
No megadeth song is as well written as Metallica songs from the same era. It’s just a fact. Megadeth is more technical though, and that appeals to some. Only exception is the ‘00-‘10s
barebare looking down the cross, mary jane, five magics, good mourning/black friday, my last words, and set the world afire are some really well written and structured songs
Thank God they didn’t because it would have made the album a lot worse. Imagine replacing Creeping Death or For Whom The Bell Tolls with those shitty songs 😂😂😂😂😂
Rory Gallagher crest of a wave predates paradise city. Slash wasabig fan of his. Also a song by the Nazz has a similar riff but I can't remember the title.
Look up zero the hero by Ian Gillan era Sabbath, pretty sure Slash said that's where he got the riff from. I know that's randomly a lot of metal heads' favourite Sabbath album like Lars and Slash
Nah, son. James practically wrote everything. Burton had a few songwriting credits, but his playing definitely contributed immensely to their sound. Hence the drop in quality after he died.
SepticSchizo955 aren’t you listening ? Ohhhhhh it’s you Pussy !!! BAHAHAHHAHAHA , And here we are, Dave Teaching James , and Lars so called “writing songs” , by humming , So Fucken Cheesy , Metalica Never Gave Dave enough credit , on any of their first four albums , which only makes sense since Dave was the Best and most creative member ...
you guys probably didnt know bu5 alot of the riffs you hear were written years before they were used. like most of ride the lighting and master was made during kill em all days
i swear on my life, the riff at 13:00 is what would become one of the riffs in "To Live is to Die." it's the exact same rhythm, almost the same chords, just in the key of E instead of F#. and that's James talking to Lars, not Dave.
Sam Weisberg 😜. Why mention it was James talking ? So we all know that Dave isn’t on AJFA ? Well he is , and that was him talking to Lars and jamming for Lars , and Metallica was always and will always be a Dave Mustiane Cover Band .... well ,up To AJFA, then they become Pop Metal
@@dan3424vcs super collider was an album made just to go on tour and nothing else , as for cryptic writings marty friedman gave the idea to go more pop and risk was dave's idea to go mainstream and their producer worked on it ... Poor producer after that he may have had his ass kicked by dave 🤭😂 and it was a horrible album that its main goal was to better than the black album i have looked for this shit enough in the internet however i don't think they are 100% true it's just from my perspective and no matter what fails each band of them has done doesn't mean they suck shit from the toilet for some mistakes.
You have to admire Lars' creativity. He may have not been the best drummer ever, but he beat boxed his ideas and would then learn it. I think that shows his composition abilities.
He didn't need to be the best drummer ever, but he was a great one. The Lars bashing nonsense is exactly that. The nonsense of a bunch of dumb sheeple.
He's sounded good on One and was badass compared to other radio friendly glam metal drummers 88 89 90.
No! He had no ideas. He's a hack!
@@E.C.2 Tommy Lee outbeats him, in any way!
definitely the richest drummer of all time
Even after all these years. Lars’ voice literally sounds the exact same I love it
and his drumming is just as bad too...
I mean it’s up for debate,
JPX64 pretty low bar 🤷♂️
@@creepingcrawley6520 James' talking voice sounds the same too.
@@Sugar_K It's actually better here, and that's saying something..
2:18 = perfect Thrash guitar tone.
MARSHOMEWORLD treble 10 mid 0
Old Marshall. Probably a JMP master volume.
2:07 **
MARSHOMEWORLD 1:38 i think thats the best
Beautiful
6:34 What a gorgeous thrash tone.
I Agree 👌🤘🖤
I totally agree with you, typical thrash sound of those years, it also reminds me a lot of the sound of Dave's guitar that he had on the Peace sells album, very sharp and "ferocious."
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Marshall
6:10 - Totally Megadeth feeling!
that's because it's a megadeth song, chosen ones.
early workings of the Chosen Ones. Glad they didn't steal this lick.
jlopez47 even if they did, Dave would’ve still used it and used it better \m/
@@mycustomyoutubechannel2539 It's not quite Chosen Ones, but it's probably the riff that led to the song.
jlopez47 they couldn’t even play the mechanix up to speed. No way in hell they were stealing that. Too complex for bitch boy James and midget Lars.
They sound like Bevis and Butthead.
eh heheh hehehehehe
Fire fire fire......
THE MURPHY SHOW! I NEED TP !
Timestamp pls
@@onutube6392 7:26 lol!
7:30 rust in peace polaris
That's what I was thinking XD did he share that riff with them?
@@Super.AmmarI0 and they think sucks xd
12:57 is straight out of "To Live Is To Die".
Danny Russell Damn, you're spot on bro !!
Yes and its wrote by Cliff ... almost the whole song was actually written by him ... from the band that was the last dedication for him as his last song ... also he wrote the lyric for that song ... so basically all credits goes for him for writting that song ... sadly they not really playing tht song live anymore ...
nah it's not straight out of it, slightly different chords.
12:12 you can definitely hear lars mumbling the riff from to live is to die(4:00-4:30)
Err, wasn't Ron McGovney still the bassist at the time of this jam? TLITD does have also Cliff's ideas but not that riff (probably James).
this sounds like my apartment in the 80s.....then my house in the 90s, then........i looked back and here i am 50 yrs old with nothing to show for my life but some really kick memories and some really kick ass nights with my brothers jammin, gettin high wasting a big part of our lives away...hummm...
BVD does that make you wish you had done things differently?
I'm 35 but am in the same boat (still make music, of a very different kind if you check my channel, thats irrelevant though I think) but the fact that we played, really played music and made it good and loud I think that's really all that matters: who's grass would you rather have been greener, the folks looking at us saying 'damn I wish I could have played music'? Or us looking at some famous musicians saying damn those 'people had a lot of money/fame'? I'd say us. Because what the fuck is money and fame at the end of the when you shared with your best friends the actual real life magic of jams? I'm not exactly expressing myself all that well but I think you know what I'm saying.... ;) Just my thoughts on the matter...
jsogman This is a fantastic point. I've heard so many people who walked more "professional" paths in their lives (office workers, lawyers, etc.) who say "I wish I had just stuck to playing music because it's what I had fun doing". Even if you don't quote-unquote "make it" as a musician the same way that guys like Mustaine or Lars did with all the fame and money, that hardly matters when you remember that those guys got into music because they enjoyed it, not because they were looking for worldwide success. So long as you enjoy playing, there's no need to regret choosing that path, those memories and good times will stay with you longer than money will
BVD amen brotha..
BVD same boat man ..we walk a different path..👊👍 how many computer programmers say ..i remember this time we were programming...extra extra...i would rather be a broke guitarists than a boring guy with a Toyota prius and some hag thats just there for your money. .
6:36 I didn't know Dave wrote the Welcome to The Jungle riff lol
Paradise city i think
@@jesussoto6855 Oh shit, you right man lol good lookin' out brother.
@@nonexistenceisbliss9528 i though ur gonna hate on me
@@jesussoto6855 Nah man, I can accept when I make a mistake, unlike most of these moronic egotistical meat-heads.
@@nonexistenceisbliss9528 cool
You can hear Dave’s influence on Kill EM’ ALL that is absent in later albums is here for sure. This is a gem!!! 💎
Very Punk Metal right?
@@karlsalocks You can also hear the last of Cliff’s influence on And Justice For All…
@@fjnenterprises2359and a lot of DiamondHead!¡ Ps Warner had one of my piss ants videos bänned lol. If anything my video made people listen to more Diamond Head! Oh well HAHA. Napster killed the Radio star :/
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Warner probably did me a favor really, prolly 3 strikes in this video alone. :/
@@fjnenterprises2359 7:30 Sid Vicious wasn’t pleased with this photo, it ( secretly )was why Dave got bounced. Sid on an island with Elvis, gave an order through Frank Sinatra, to HOOK EM’ off the stage!¡! :/
@@fjnenterprises2359I also hear a lot of Patti Smith PUNK ;)
That first riff sets the tone, amazing stuff. Although we all heard it before in their songs, it stays amazing. Just imagine to listen to this back in the day, must be incredible.
6:10 Chosen One (Dave)
6:35 Lucretia (Dave)
10:20 Blood of Heroes (I guess Dave. If this was Dave, riff belongs to Blood of Heroes, however if this was James this study would turn into Until It Sleeps)
12:59 To Live is to die (James)
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5:58 The fourhorsemen slow part intro riff (Dave)
8:40 Seek & Destroy last riff (James because he picked up and down with some wrong notes. He had not yet had precise hands for picking. Dave had the precise hands at those days)
2:18 Skull Beneath The Skin First Rough partition (slower) (Dave)
4:53 Ride The Lightning bridge riff between intro and vocal partition (This one is rough. Check this in Rİde The Lightning 32th seconds. In Ride The Lightning you can see notes are pretty same but different stroke and pick) (Absolutely Dave)
8:52 Battery riffs were coming from this study. At 9:42 the bridge transition riff (James)
Chosen one was kinda close but the rest sound nothing like those songs. I have no idea how you connected 6:35 with Lucretia especially.
@@Britishwolf89 to live is to die is very similar
Not at all mate
Not at all
Not lucretia or to live is to die lmao
6:11 is chosen ones by megadeth
How? Which part of Chosen Ones?
Pre solo
Fucking glorious riff, imagine a metallica song with that riff
David Garcia yes they couldn’t steal it because they could never play it
It sounds more like countdown to extinction
Need this as my phone ring tone. 1:14
Timmayyboy Just in case 2005 calls you up?
barebare what does that mean
Jack Reading can’t seem to remember a single person with a non standard ring tone or vibration only since ‘05. Except maybe for some elderly people.
That sound completely like Walk by Pantera
That riff appears in Ride the Lightning. The song Escape
That opening riff is so tasty man ❤ Dave is a great great guitarist ❤
9:29 Spit out the bone?
Omg yes
OMG no
Sounds like it
11DNA11 metal Militia?
Maybe. Some of the riff from hardwired is recycled riff from old stuff
1:50 ba-delanta-bu-piss...da-delanta-de-dah...da-delanta-de-dah...da-delant-anna-anna! xD Yeah that's how it goes!
Lars could rival Bobby McFerrin here! ;)
Lars' contribution to the song writing credits involving Metallica. Lol
+Gern Holy shit ,that is fucking funny!!! Classic comment!!!!!!!
Gern Blanston and nothing much has changed since
Cameron aka Killa Cam Aka Cam Tha Man Aka Cambo yeah I totally agree
Thats the beginning of thrash
JOHNNYwxw I think symptom of the universe by black Sabbath was the first thrash sound I'm music
Sorta, it can also qualify as heavy metal. More proto thrash. Venom made the first real thrash metal songs.
Along with Sabbath and Motörhead. Some say Venom and Exodus as well. Slayer took it to another level but Metallica definitely perfected it.
If Metallica had kept Dave in the band they would’ve been the Beatles of Thrash for sure. Kirk was great but we all know Dave is 10 times better.
@@LoePenzz No Judas Priest song is a fully structured thrash song LMFAO. Everything from Motorhead to Angel Witch to JP to 1982 Venom was proto thrash. 'No Life Till Leather' is the first true thrash metal sound, as acknowledged by literally every rock musician from that era. The tone, the attitude, the tempo, riffs, *SOLOS* , vocals were all radically fresh.
Would like to thank Metallica for giving dave mustaine the opportunity start the greatest thrash metal band of all time
ABSOLUTELY!!!
@@Rugiet hey, come on not all of us lol. and dave is still (always) salty.
@rezargamer is that why your mad over a year old comment
@rezargamer ikr
Yeah listen to any recent Megadeth record and listen to any recent Metallica record Megadeth is still killing it Metallica is already dead
6:10 that's how the king plays
King of losers
@Per Skarva nah Queen of Megadickriders, get over yourselves.
Mustaine failed Metal when he got rid of Friedman, fired Menza when he had cancer and repeatedly let go of Ellefson (this doesn't count not giving a shit about Gar dying or treating Poland like shit when they all did drugs and drank), dude is toxic.
Man they really have been living in that sound Dave was creating right here in 1982... There still chugs and the way he was opening on riffs that they've just kept.. It is the way James learned which was from Mustaine so it would make sense.. Buts it crazy to think.. He is so important to what Metallicas sound became.. On albums well past his time with them.. Credited or otherwise.. Mustaine is the man that inspired an entire genre to evolve out of what he did with Metallica and then continued with Megadeth.. Just epic man.
Kinda bollocks James wrote some of the songs that appeared on kill em all before Dave joined.
@@metallicaandjustice1 No he had one song Hit the Lights which was from his previous band called Leather Charm.. Which Mustaine then turned into a Thrash song.. Hetfield was a vocalist only.. You'll also see that all their band shots with their respective roles and Hetfield is holding a the mic stand.. No guitar.. He knew basic cords and things but wasn't a guitarist.. Mustaine taught him to play the guitar his way, over 1982.. Hetfield started playing guitar in 1983 about 4 to 5 months before Mustaines exit..
You'll also notice that Ulrich got his name on the credits for Hit the Lights as well as a number of other songs he had no hand in creating..
Jump in the Fire was one of Mustaines first ever songs he wrote in his previous band Panic.. And guess what Ulrich stuck his name on it as well... They guy is a prick.. He stole shit and claimed credit constantly..
One final thing.. A couple of years ago Mustaine got a call from Hetfield asking him if he would OK the release of No Life Till Leather officially.. But Lars wants to have his name added to some of the songs credits namely Mechanix.. To which Mustaine said... Go fuck yourself you aren't getting credits on things he have no part in making.. And if Lars wants it so bad he should be the one calling not using Hetfield as a winch.
They could have released it unchanged credits wise... But Lars refused unless he got credits added to the songs... And that folks is the type of person Lars really is.
@@metallicaandjustice1 And here is that quoted from Mustaine personally "James contacted me 2 years ago. We were going to officially release the "No Life Till Leather" demo as a record, w/27 tracks, pics, the whole enchilada, and the talks broke down because Lars wanted credit on two songs I wrote every note and word to. I have the texts. I passed."
Let’s not pretend like the songs Dave wrote or helped write were Metallica’s best songs. Did Dave write Master of Puppets? Creeping Death? Enter Sandman? Nothing Else Matters? Nope. All those songs are staples at Metallica’s shows, those songs turned them into a household name. Dave is awesome, he’s super talented and I’m a Megadeth fan but I get so annoyed of the notion that Metallica only became who they are because of Dave. It’s nonsense
@@PhantomDeth no there is a demo on metal massacre with has Lloyd grant on it’s still a thrash song. This is pre mustaine and james is playing rhythm on it and this was before Dave mustaine joined.Phil ansemo wrote the riff mouth for war for pantera so vocalists can write riffs.
Metallica’s origins are to do with both james and Dave but hit the lights was always a thrash song even before Dave was involved. He is not solely responsible for their sound this is just something megadeth fans say because the love Dave mustaine.
Dave did not teach James how to play guitar lol do your research.
Mustaine is the best, no question
At what?
@@redrick8900 en llegar borracho y ser poco profesional. 😅😅😅.the champion of the World. 😂😂😂😂😂😂...muy borracho noooooo, un poquito siiiiiiiii.
@@migueljuanino7917 I don't speak stupid.
@@redrick8900 Making riffs, composing and arranging songs, and also being a dickhead.
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I'm glad Dave got kicked out of Metallica.. Otherwise we wouldn't have had Megadeth.
Cristian Sosa Has I disagree , The breakup was inevitable, James and Lars simply could not play the music Dave would go on to Write , Mustiane had to go get World Class Virtuosos To Record his music , while Metallica peaked very early and then declined into mainstream rock .... somewhere around the time cliff died and The well of Mustiane dried up
@@frankpeltier7711 indeed, ALL THE GOOD SONGs on Kill em al are from Mustaine, as for Cliff Burton being the other genius! after his death u could CLEARLY HEAR how important both men were, even with Justice album the ROCK sounds begins, same as the Black album: Great rock music man! ever since 1990 or so metallica has been playing rock music, only first 3 albums were pure METAL ART thanks to Mustaine and Burton. imagine ALL the music from megadeth pomped into metallica until 1990! if Burton NEVER died they would have been LEgends, unlike this rockband playing rock music.
Can you guys stop comment like this😂
I think James and Lars wanted to keep control of the band to themselves. Dave was too strong character and they were worried that he will take a leading role.
Ado Podrinje there is only one thing that doesn’t make sense to me, Dove got kicked out because of drinking problems and irresponsible behavior but yet he succeed doing the same and more
No to mention that Metallica gain reputation on the early days thanks to Dave’s talent
What's that pic at 3:33? Dave decided to save time and pour the beer directly into the urinal?
autocrow No, he filled it up for Lars bec Lars likes his warm
That was my job. Bringing a hammer and nails for the drum stage.....
RonMcGovney I known Lars is a good drummer but is he real bad dumb? he really seems that way.
RonMcGovney hi
Is that really you?
Wow! If that really is you Ron, Hi man! Hope you are well and continue to stay that way!
nodonny8 it looks like it. Check the other vids on his account
6:10 that riff is fucking awesome!!! Oh right it’s megadeth duh...
What song?
Lol !!!
@@colonelaid5206 all of them !!!
@@colonelaid5206 Chosen Ones (around 1 minute into the song). Not the exact riff, but a different version.
@@Maggiethegsd or killing is my business
7:30 holy shit that's rust in peace ... polaris :D i didn't know it goes way back
What some of you people don't realize that James was there as well, and wrote a lot of their riffs.
More importantly, this is something I learned, this is likely several jams recorded over a space of time. You can even hear the tape being shut, to finish recording.
It really is a shame that they had to let Dave go. Music wise, i think they all worked well together especially James and Dave.
Can’t have three guys all trying to be the boss… it was for the best.
@@PerfectSense77I always thought Lars knew if he didn’t kick out Dave then in the future Dave would have kicked him out Metallica 😂
@@danielvazquez392 interesting perspective.
@@danielvazquez392 well, Dave wouldn’t have been able to kick Lars out, because Lars owns the band. He also owns the rights to the name Metallica
@@anakinlowground5515 oh ok didn’t know that then nvm my opinion 😂
4:20 - high speed dirt breakdown solo?
sammael55 Nah, just a blues lick. Same scale. Marty plays that anyway.
Maybe....
2:10 is that part of the black friday riff?
It is 😩😩🔥
6:37 sounds like dave jamming on wake updead
I think that's James playing a riff that would end up being changed a little to be the intro riff of NO REMORSE.
emannikufesin sounds a bit like paradise city by guns n roses too lol
@@emokiller907 holy shit that's so paradise city 😂
@@emokiller907 wow they really unknowingly played paradise city years before it was recorded. Amazing
@@emokiller907 Lol that's true
7:00 I know I'm probably on crack, but I hear the intro/riff of Sweet Amber being mouthed out by Lars here. If it did somehow resurface from him 20 years later, it was definitely subconscious lol.
Anyone else wondering if Dave still has that Metallica t-shirt?
He does. He keeps it with pride somewhere. And God knows how many Kill 'Em All vinyls.
HeWolf 587372 , If I had to wonder, I'd say Dave kept it for about 30 years or so and used it for a handkerchief to cry into & wipe his tears - until they all finally attempted to try & bury the hatchet when they had that 1st reunion publicly on stage. Of course, James, Lars, Kirk, Roberto T. & even Jason & Rob McGovney were all there when Dave showed up wearing that old, original, former 'employee uniform' T-shirt that day before any of them actually went out on stage. Lars & James both were shocked to see he still had it. The six guys (besides Dave) all kinda chuckled & sneered a bit at him and James said,"Dave, you can't wear that on stage with us!". Dave, with big, tear filling eyes asked," Well..well why not? You guys called me & invited me here today, didn't you?...Lars, I know that was your own voice on the phone that said I could come jam with you guys!... Why can't I wear my favorite band T-shirt?....🙏pretty please!". In his whiney little begging voice, "It's gonna be just like the old days!". With a dumfounded & slightly irritated face, James replied,"NO... IT'S NOT. Dude, stop your crying. We aren't taking you back in the band. We,re just letting you back on stage for 1 or 2 songs so that fans think we get along now. Jason, same as you! We're not taking YOU back either. You two are back in the cab backstage & out of here as soon as 2 songs are done!... I'll give you another bus ticket instead, Dave. If you're wanting to re-live old memories....and Jason, no singing. Only I get to use a mic! This is just for a publicity stunt and extra money! Now Dave, wear this pink shirt & let's all get out there & get this shit over with!" Wait, one of you two "Roberts" gotta hang a minute backstage here & put more ice on these beers- they're fucking warm! Then wait for me to call you out on stage after I talk to the fans about Cliff for a couple minutes, got it? .... Alright guys, let's go!"
🎸👊💥😂😂😂
@@m.c.ruckus2032 cool story bruh
Doubt it. He has plenty of superior megadeth t’s.
@@m.c.ruckus2032 Tell me you envy Dave Mustaine wtithout telling me you envy Dave Mustaine.
3:30 Escape.
Strange, because they claim they wrote that song in a couple days before RTL was released
Droideca88 that’s Because they are Full of Shit .... plagiaristic Assheads .
@@frankpeltier7711 Perhaps that's a riff that they first scrapped but when they had to make escape they used it.
Lurtzi so Dave playing the song , earlier doesn’t count ..?.. don’t you understand what plagiarism is ? It’s Dave riff (as we can plainly hear) , so why no credit ..? ... you know why, because Lars and James are as Fake as it comes
Frank Peltier are you Dave's girlfriend or something? Why are you so defensive about something that doesn't matter? lol
11:10 Been humming this all day. Thanks, Lars!
this is a fucking guitar tone!!! this is what real metal sounds like not that downtuned bullshit this is what it means to be heavy!!!!
which guitar tone?
bellabugs EXACTLY ... FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS
bellabugs becouse low or fast doesn't means heavy
JoeyDavelleTV i think he is talking about this 1:50
bellabugs I like downtone whats wrong about it its just a tune man
Damn... I miss the days of jamming in my buddy's garage... my mismatched CB 700 drums with homemade cymbal stands... recording on an old boombox... circa 1992
That little bluesy riff at 4:23 reminds me so much of the one in High Speed Dirt.
It does sound extremely similar! Not just the style of it but the arrangement too.
Ohhh Yeahh!! Sounds Cool!! I love it, reminds me a session lives of Dave Mustaine is playing some kind of blues in tokyo 1998. ua-cam.com/video/Um-Cc9h1cEk/v-deo.html
7:28 Doesn't that remind you of Rust in Peace... Polaris ???? Could it be
***** It wasnt a Child saint, a band called child saints stole it from mustaine and made a song called "child saint" and it was rust in peace polaris. Dave tells that in alex jones interview.
Aamunen 13:01 frayed ends of sanity?
No, it's To Live is To Die's rhythm, with a slightly altered progression.
Fillisel
If you're gonna steal, steal from the best :)
11DNA11 just like Metallica did
i like their humming so much omg
No one:
Me in the kitchen making a sandwich at 4 am 12:12
Must b a nice sandwage or just doin yer whistle to occupy u until you gave made it
Killer tone !!! Marshall 800 pushed by a tube screamer straight up no bull shit
2:50 Sounds a lot like Escape “life’s for my own” section
So Dave wrote also that song?! Wrote em all fr😂
10:22 = extremely Mercyful Fate -influenced.
They also played I think Satan's Fall in the beginning
Jason Pizzolato is like curse of the pharaos
First part sounds Sabbath influenced to me. I know I heard this riff from them before or something similar
Hard
Definitely Mercyful Fate and quite unbelievable, they sound from Melissa album but the latter wasn't yet released. Probably neither their first EP (Nuns Have No Fun) came out at that time.
9:00 Like Spit Out the Bone
the difference is in the "gallop movement" of riff, but the secuencies and chords are the same
You don't understand :/
Mr. Problematic savage
I hear that Spit Out The Bone vibes
Spit out the bone (Intro) !
8:50 sounds like Spit out the bone riff’s end sect. Such a cool slide.
Bro that sounds so close..
Is james or mustaine?
"Knock! Knock!
"Who's there?"
"Dave!"
"Dave's not here!"
5:47 is Wake Up Dead - Megadeth - the part where it gets fast after Polands solo, its the transition into the second speed picking on the second fret
The early demo of wake up dead was "blood and honour"
Poland has one little 4 second solo on wake up dead That's the close of a longer solo by dave
this kinda originated Wake up dead and Ride the lightning apparently
The sound of the riff at 12:59 makes its way into to live is to die
Which part of to live is to die is this? i cant hear it when i listen to the song
@@HarshanSandhu-c4r 2:33 of to live is to die. this version is in the key of E, but to live is to dies key is F#
Title says Dave Mustaine and Lars Ulrich jamming RARE FOOTAGE!
Thumbnail: *Cliff Burton and Dave Mustaine*
and james was there too
You can hear a lot of killing is my business on here, must've been the other guys in Metallica didn't like how it sounded
Must have been to hard and furious for them haha
yea he showed them , RattleHead, the Conjuring, last rites....But They Couldn't Steal Those songs for Killem all....Because They Could Never Play them , not then or Now , You 'tallica rulz' cretins, are a joke
Too hard and complex, also the riffs were so not James style, James style was more seek and destroy, creeping death, fight fire with fire, battery, master of puppets... Just different styles
Happy they didn’t use them I hate that fucking album kill em all riff are already good enough.
dave wrote half the songs on that album lmao. he even has writing credits on it. and on a couple of songs on ride the lightning. so i guess you like dave's writing after all ;D
poison was the cure omg metallica with dave sound amazing
Too bad it's Chosen Ones.
lol..... they (meaning James and Lars ) could never Play poison was the cure , you imbecile
Dave Mustaine, Gary Holt, James Hetfield, and Cliff Burton are the pillars of thrash metal...big emphasis on Mustaine and Holt
Even bigger emphasis on Hetfield
Naw, Hetfield wasnt even playing guitar in Metallica's early days. Mustaine and Holt invented the style. Mustaine's songs on Kill'em All are the stand out tracks.
@@777Eliyahu You do realise Hetfield wrote like 6 of the songs on Kill Em All? 😂😂. Also how did Mustaine and Holt create the genre when Megadeth and Exodus didn’t release their first album until 1985?
@@DarkHallwayz I do "realize" that Hetfield contributed many songs to the album. Quality versus quantity, I prefer Mustaine's songs.
Using album dates as a reference for the creation of the genre is a silly, especially in a scene that revolved around tape trading and demos in its early days. Exodus and Metallica with Mustaine were releasing music and playing shows way before any proper albums came out. So no, you're making a bad argument and showing lack of knowledge about early thrash metal.
@@777Eliyahu I’m struggling to see how playing underground shows with small amounts of spectators created a genre, when Metallica released the first actual album of that genre. It’s like saying Candlemass didn’t invent doom metal even though they made the first ever doom metal album
6:10 one of the best riffs of all time
And played SO cleanly
Human beatbox Lars Ulrich. The jazz roots from his father and godfather Dex Gordon shines through
This reminds me of back in the 1990s when I took up guitar and wrote songs with dreams of being in a band. I recorded my guitar parts on to a cassette tape. I recently got it out and converted the tape to MP3 for the fun of it. My timing was all over the place, even editing on audacity to try and fix mistakes, and the intonation of the guitar was off in some songs and others were slightly out of tune. But I shouldn't have given up on the dream after a few failed attempts to form a band. People around the world could have been looking back at that demo the same way they're looking back at Lars' guitar noises on this, if I was ambitious enough.
True but a lot of Metallica's success stemmed from being the right band at the right time with a barely competent drummer (at the time) having connections and early access to a music scene that barely hit the U.S shores. The staggering thing is how Lars winded up running into Mustaine/Hetfield and then brought a long Burton. That much talent winding up with each other and spearheading such a movement is having the stars align. It's not just them being one of the first either. Even if Metallica would've come a bit after Exodus, Slayer and Anthrax etc. Their music still would've stood out among the pack to my ears. They wouldn't have exploded quite like they did but with such songwriting that ended up on RTL-MOP-AJFA, they would've eventually grinded their way to the top regardless imo.
Or ambiguous enough? Once you find a band the inner dynamics have to meld or you will just end up like the Beatles anyway? Don't beat yourself up about it, it is what it is, whom knows what hardships that you missed? It is all water under the bridge. Vanity of vanities, all is vanity. People whom push, will be pushed also. Like movie stars whom think they are above God.
friend, I know it's been 3 years but you should upload those demos to youtube it would be interesting to hear your musical ideas as a teenager, I would listen to it
13:58 old version of To Live is to Die?! There is a bunch of riffs in here used on later recordings that were not finalized. I wonder who wrote that?
Albee213 Lars!!!😁
? ahaha yea , Lars Cant Play Guitar , making your idiotic comment, Quite Lame !
Cliff. I think that to live is to Die was mostly based on ideas from Cliff. There is some video where Cliff is jamming on a tape some of the riffs in to Live is to Die, before it became a song.
@@Atlas65 how to find it?
6:10 that's how it is
Mustaine'em all!!
Lars and Dave have so much chemistry wonder what would of been written if Dave hadn’t left the band 🤔
Ja Ova lol..... yea Lars’s humming would have really come In Handy , Megadeth Has So my better and sophisticated songs than this , and when you guys say shit like that ? I know you’ve missed out Big time ....
Frank Peltier I Know Megadeth’s catalogue. But its a cool idea, because Lars has a great ear for music. I have heard everything Megadeth has to offer 80s to early 00s Megadeth was great with the exception of Risk. their new stuff is just whatever not my thing the producing is so average and it sounds like most metal bands out.
Ja Ova lol , so lame , why pretend you’ve even listen ? End game is epic , Dystopia is Epic , United Abominations is Epic , 13 is Killer and The system has failed is A Monster ... what the fuck are you taking about man , Metallica died with Cliff , it was obviously All Dave and Cliffs Music and inspiration , when that left they went mainstream radio pop metal.... Metallica is just a marketing logo like Macdonalds or Walmart
Frank Peltier endgame was average, so was 13... I agree with United Abominations and The system has failed being great. Metallica’s only weak album is St Anger in reality. It seems like Megadeth’s fans have a superiority complex cause deep down they know Megadeth will forever live In Metallica’s shadow as the band from the guy who used to be in Metallica. Unfortunately people will never know the genius of Megadeth especially when fans like you put off people. Megadeth fans are just like Tool fans. My favorite Albums are Peace Sells But Who’s Buying and So far So Good.. So what both masterpieces Rust In Peace a close third
Ja Ova at the end of the day Megadeths musicianship will be remembered over all , Metallica bullshit popularity is just that POPularity , live in their shadow ?? Lol only to you mainstream radio, fake pose bots
You think pop metal like the black, load loads , lulu, Mega-netic - death (like we didn’t see that one ) and soft weird to implode are “good” ? those clowns shit out albums and you idiots eat it up , Megadeth is a Galactic Mile Past , the marketing logo called Metallica
9:21 Those are the guys that really made metallica's sound.
Kirk did ok in ride the lightning and then it got old fast. Id say hes the reason that kill em all doesn't sound as thrash as it was meant to sound
Bullshit. Part Of but Not all.
Am I the only one that thinks Kirk and Dave have a really similar style?
@@Jimb1264 yes
@@fatherlandchild2780 they were both bluesy fellas and had similar tendencies. At least then they did.
12:58 idk if Cliff was in the band at this time but thats some freaky shit. Imagine being in a band and then they come up with a riff that ends up on a tribute song about your death
This was in mcgovneys garage in LA the bassist before cliff. They hadn't moved to San fran yet so cliff wasn't in the band just yet
What song did the riff end up being in ?
@@JohnSmith-fm3pn the riff ended up in to live is to die
I’m late on this video I don’t know if anyone would see this. But consider this. If they never fired Dave they never would have hired Kirk. Now imagine if cliff and Dave had certain sleeping arrangements on a certain day that would led to Dave get thrown out of a certain bus that ended his career early. We’d still have cliff but everything you hear about him now would be getting said about Dave. Crazy shit
They have all probably talked about these scenarios.
1:14 *don't deleto... don't deleto... don't deleto* 🇲🇽
I thought he was saying total metal total leather
Glad Mustaine got a better drummer. Lol
First thing I noticed... Sounds like cassettes from my bands when I was in my teens, bad drumming, guitars all over the place
12:55 To Live Is To Die...
Thanks dude
Some of these riffs sound primitive compared to now , but thats how I like it ! Plus I know they were just bouncing ideas around too . I love it . Very cool to hear my friend . It was a very different time then . Born in 78 I missed it by a few years as it comes to playing in bands . But I was still inspired by both bands . I became a metal head young in 86 at 8 yrs old and still holding the torch for metal ! At least trying to keep it kindled lol !
08:35 - ending part of Seek & Destroy, slightly changed.
James was there too. He wrote a lot of great riffs too.
who ever said he wasn’t there
And I thought I sound dumb mouth riffing :P
2:18 best rhythm tone !! can any of you tell me the gear dave was using at the time of this?
He was using a BC Rich Bich guitar with Seymour Duncan pickups , I think the JB and the 59 , but I don't know the amp he used with Metallica.
Probably a RAT pedal into a Marshall.
marshall 800 pushed by a tube screamer
Hahaha, the only reason 'Chosen Ones' and 'Poison Was The Cure' didn't become Metallica songs on RTL was coz Lars and James were searching for tabs of Mustaine's jam tracks.
Sainandan Ramakrishnan poison was the cure is basically hit the lights, but done properly.
or, because the early albums don't need those songs because they aren't as good as the other Metallica songs.
No megadeth song is as well written as Metallica songs from the same era. It’s just a fact. Megadeth is more technical though, and that appeals to some. Only exception is the ‘00-‘10s
barebare looking down the cross, mary jane, five magics, good mourning/black friday, my last words, and set the world afire are some really well written and structured songs
Thank God they didn’t because it would have made the album a lot worse. Imagine replacing Creeping Death or For Whom The Bell Tolls with those shitty songs 😂😂😂😂😂
This had more Bass in it than and justice for all
7:00 is “I Ain’t Superstitious” and 7:30 is “Rust in Peace... Polaris”
So cool different bits and pieces of classic songs in weird tempos and shit.
9:30 sounds more like James
Dave and Cliff 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
7:30 rust in peace melody
Noone stole anything. Dave wrote the riffs, so he has rights for them, but he wrote them in Metallica, so Metallica also has rights for them.
True. It's on record.
EmulatorNoob you're dumb
***** no, I just know how things go in the bands
I'm sure of it.
EmulatorNoob how would you know? are you the fucking manager or something?
6:33 Dave also created the fast part in paradise city it seems :v
El Padrino well him and slash did jam a lot haha
Rory Gallagher crest of a wave predates paradise city. Slash wasabig fan of his. Also a song by the Nazz has a similar riff but I can't remember the title.
Look up zero the hero by Ian Gillan era Sabbath, pretty sure Slash said that's where he got the riff from. I know that's randomly a lot of metal heads' favourite Sabbath album like Lars and Slash
4:31 tornado of souls riff
3:25 sounds a lot like master of puppets
9:20 These guys were Metallica.
Walamonga 1313 no, James and Lars is Metallica
Hell no...
James
Lars
Mustaine
Cliff
Kirk
Ron
Loyd grant
Robert
Newsted
And that's about it I think :''')
Nah, son. James practically wrote everything. Burton had a few songwriting credits, but his playing definitely contributed immensely to their sound. Hence the drop in quality after he died.
SepticSchizo955 aren’t you listening ? Ohhhhhh it’s you Pussy !!! BAHAHAHHAHAHA , And here we are, Dave Teaching James , and Lars so called “writing songs” , by humming , So Fucken Cheesy , Metalica Never Gave Dave enough credit , on any of their first four albums , which only makes sense since Dave was the Best and most creative member ...
That Mustaine and Lars should release an album, they got some good guitar and drums playing
2:30- Escape from RTL
you guys probably didnt know bu5 alot of the riffs you hear were written years before they were used. like most of ride the lighting and master was made during kill em all days
@Audible Quest yeah alot of it was and they gave credit to what he has written.
09:30 The chords reminds me of some stuff in ”Spit out the bone” (But slower here and not exactly the same)
3:33 dave wrote escape too?
I think that’s James because you can hear lead in the back
@@mrcaesar3123 Yup Dave is noodling in the background
@@clinteastwood6875 yeah that’s what I meant to say I just realized
@@mrcaesar3123 Yup I know what you meant you were right
9:20 the most serious skill Metallica ever had....
3:15 Escape ?
Around 13:18, I hear a riff that sounds like some riff from To live is to Die around 2:33, or am I the only one....?
Yea it's lars and James
yes that is
14:35 sounds just like mercyful fate
7:53 - 8:49 The crunchy guitar tone sounds like Destruction on their "Live Without Sense" album.
12:58 To Live is to Die riff
Dave!!!!!!!
i swear on my life, the riff at 13:00 is what would become one of the riffs in "To Live is to Die." it's the exact same rhythm, almost the same chords, just in the key of E instead of F#. and that's James talking to Lars, not Dave.
Sam Weisberg 😜. Why mention it was James talking ? So we all know that Dave isn’t on AJFA ? Well he is , and that was him talking to Lars and jamming for Lars , and Metallica was always and will always be a Dave Mustiane Cover Band .... well ,up To AJFA, then they become Pop Metal
@@frankpeltier7711 "pop metal" LMFAO, you are so correct.
@@frankpeltier7711Metallica become pop metal? have you listen Risk, Cryptic writings or Super Collider?
@@dan3424vcs super collider was an album made just to go on tour and nothing else , as for cryptic writings marty friedman gave the idea to go more pop and risk was dave's idea to go mainstream and their producer worked on it ... Poor producer after that he may have had his ass kicked by dave 🤭😂 and it was a horrible album that its main goal was to better than the black album i have looked for this shit enough in the internet however i don't think they are 100% true it's just from my perspective and no matter what fails each band of them has done doesn't mean they suck shit from the toilet for some mistakes.
@@frankpeltier7711 You megadeth fangirls are so gullible haha
So cool!!! Thanks for posting this 🤘🤘🤘
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