Grab a sip here: reverb.com/item/28499955-video-2008-gibson-les-paul-standard-50s-neck-lp5-rootbeer?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly 0:18 - What is a Standard? 1:10 - Golden Era Standards 1:34 - New Colors 2:11 - Chambering 3:30 - 2019 VS 2000s Standards 4:19 - Inside Look / Specs 8:15 - Tone Test 9:36 - Final Thoughts 10:02 - Condition 11:37 - Blacklight Test 12:25 - Case
I'm not even joking, Trogly has to have one of the best comment sections of any channel I've ever watched. You guys are awesome, and I love how everyone can actually say their opinion without being badgered in the replies. Congrats Trog, you've brought together an amazing community of guitar players and not just that everyone seems good hearted and seem to know what their talking about. Thank you Trogly, been around since the carpet and I've got to say that I don't think I've ever found a more genuine channel than yours. Love the vids keep it up. 🖒
Very attractive finish! I would definitely pass on the other finishes in the series, though. I'm all for non-traditional finishes, but boy, those were ugly! Also, I'm really impressed by how much you've improved as a guitar player over the past month or so. The demo portions have been great lately!
Definitely the best finish of the series. I was surprised at how long the gecko and latte finishes lasted on the market. This example has an extra wide variation in tone between the pickup settings and that came across in the clean/dirty sound demos.
Speaking of brown, would you ever consider demoing/reviewing an ES-325? I'm a huge Kings of Leon fan and would love to see you demo Caleb Followill's favorite guitar!
I have that very guitar with the 60s neck . A 2008 model with a chambered body. My top is much more flamed. Much more flamed. I love the chambered body. Mine came with a pick guard but not installed. I actually drilled and installed it on mine for a while but took it back off. Mine is all original. Haven't changed a thing. Haven't needed to. It plays and sounds great.
Hearing you talk about this era makes me really regret not buying one when it was at such a great price. I bought an emerald green studio because I didn't want to spend the extra $100 for the burst standard
I have a Gibson les paul standard elite.made at this time era. It has a 50’s style ebony neck, and sante fe sunrise body. Every body loves the tones of this guitar. Went to three different guitar centers. Then went aanother music store in Kent
All of the Traditional models, which is what the 2019 Standards are, have been really good in my experience. I picked up a 2009 “Lightburst” Traditional in August and like it more than the 10 or so ‘19 Standards I’ve played. The Lightburst is similar to the new Unburst 60’s Standard, just a shade darker amber. I’m buying up the Traditional and 19 Standard husks on eBay because I have a pile of parts to use up too. Great way to find a guitar for cheap if you have parts laying around.
Oh, the ‘09 Traditional is a “Plus Top” too, which isn’t available for the ‘19 Standard. You have to hunt down a ‘19 with a good top, unless the retailer is selecting tops for a markup, Which I appreciate if the markup isn’t exorbitant.
2:20 You're exactly right, it's 100% the electronics. The only difference in tone with chambering is MAYBE (solid maybe, just a notch below snake-oil) SLIGHTLY less sustain. That might be detectable to the human ear if you regularly hold a note for like a minute through a clean amp channel, but it's completely contrived 99.99997% of the time. Solidbodies sound the way they do because of pickups, electronics, bridge, fret material, nut material, and fingerboard material. In that order.
Not a lot of “Standards” with thicker necks, especially what is listed “50’s Rounded” profile that can be deceiving. Many are less than .85 at the first fret. This one is close to R9 at .87, I was rather surprised this one is that thick. I really like how your measure the neck sizes. Makes a huge difference for someone like me on the fence buying a guitar. This one is a Very cool guitar!
For what it's worth. The best lespaul I own is an 08 standard that has the clambering. It doesn't feel lighter. It just rings out a little more than others.
One thing that interests me (not a criticism) - you rarely talk about neck relief, intonation or tuning stability on the Gibsons that you review / resell, yet we all know that this is a regular focus point due to the historic design. Clearly with travel and temperature, the wood (and neck) moves and it would be impossible for every one of these guitars you buy to be perfect out the box without any tuning instability or string buzz. I just wondered if you set the truss rod, clean / lubricate the nut, adjust the string height and intonation, tighten tuners etc before you do the playing demos? It's the first thing I would look at on a Gibson after inspection before I considered gigging the guitar. You could argue that string height is a personal preference but not if you have buzz because of a bow, badly levelled frets or a poorly cut / worn nut. Thanks for the regular insight - best wishes from England.
I don’t do professional set ups but I do check to make sure the rod works and set it straight/with slight relief - properly wrap and stretch the strings, clean the fretboard and polish the frets.
Love the root beer color! Regarding the price, I guess the term "affordable" is subjective. To me, $2,500 for a Standard Gibson Les Paul is not affordable though maybe compared to a custom it is cheaper. I have a 2019 LP STD 60s and am happy with it. Again it is all relative.😎
That is exactly why there is no such thing as the right guitar, as soon as we get one, it's "Oh, why didn't I get it in this or that color". My most stupid moment? When Epiphone was having their guitars build in Indonesia, I just bought the Ebony LPJ for $100 and I could have bought them all in 5 different colors for the price of a shit Chinese built LP Pro. The Chinese built that I've bought since? All 5 are crap, but that Indo built LPJ is just fantastic. I literally can't describe the difference in quality. That was a huge error on my part, you can hardly even get LPJ's now and none at $100 per. Frickin' Gibson, the 4-5 hundred dollar Epi's are on par with the crap Maestro I bought from "Made by Gibson" at Walmart for my (at the time)unborn grandchild. She'll be able to beat on it until she's old enough to respect her gear. When, boy WHEN? Are you going to get your shit together? Fuck China, go back to the indonesian factories, they actually take pride in their work! China just plays, "Give me the diagram", slap some plywood down and fuck the customer.
Looks close to my 2004 amber LP standard. Mine wasn't drilled for a pick guard either and I can't bring myself to put holes in it to add the guard. The root beer is sweet!
Root beer is a great color. I'd rock the heck out of it. I sanded the top off my first setneck epiphone lp when I was around 20 years old. I stained the top brown. I wanted it to turn out like this. It's cool, but it didn't look like this.
Hey dude like your show you seem to know what you are talking about awesome I recently bought a 70’s hormone les Paul copy as a project having a hell of a time finding parts for it do you have any advice for where to find parts keep up the good work
A Lot has been changed about that guitar. I have a 2008 Standard spec made in 2011 with no modifications and that guitar has been gutted among other changes. It originally had a PCB board style elecronics mounting with solderless pots and the truss rod cover has the word "Standard" printed on it. It's interesting to see the variations in the models as mine has a 1-piece mahogany back and the rosewood fretboard is near ebony darkness. It should have Gibson Burstbucker Pro pickups and Grover locking tuners, but strangely, I've seen some without the Grover locking tuners. They also had locking Neutrik input jacks and Tonepros bridges. Nonetheless, that guitar you have there has been changed quite a bit. You already caught the knob replacement but yeah, it's been changed a lot.
Super late reply, but to add to the record...I just became the 1 millionth owner of this exact guitar (I'm still waiting for it to ship)...but I did some digging around because I was curious about the same thing. 2008 was a wild year for Gibson...they tried a bunch of stuff out like you're saying (PCB, Neutrik output jack, etc). My investigation revealed that the "new" 2008 year models were released in late July / early August of 2008. It appears that guitars with birthdays earlier than late June/ early July shipped with 2007 specs This guitar has a birthday of May 29th and appears that it would have shipped as shown here (minus the mentioned replaced Schaller double ring tuners, lightweight tailpiece, truss rod cover)...regular output jack with cream plate, burstbucker pros, hand-wired pots. Can't wait to check it out. It's my first standard AND my first Trogly guitar! Also curious why it's been passed around so many times (at least 8 times including me...and that's just what I could find on Reverb. The very distinctive top made it super easy to track down).
@@RUSS312 Oh wow well you just taught me quite a lot right there! Thank you for that info. I thought that guitar had been seriously modified by a purist! lol! Well then, congrats on a really nice guitar! This stuff can get so confusing. I'd say that it makes your Les Paul a bit unique!
@@visionop8 I was ALSO educated! I love getting into nerdy details about this stuff...which is why Trogly is a GIFT. Either way, I was happy with it...it was either mostly unmodified or modified by someone who REALLY CARED. Both have their advantages. Word on the street from the FIRST Reverb listing I found was that this guitar was given to a Gibson-endorsed blues musician by Gibson. Could just be a story, but there's a faded stencil of a name on the case I can't quite make out in photos. Looking forward to uncovering that mystery as well once it gets here :).
@@visionop8 The name was completely rubbed off the case by the time it got to me..then I forgot...I just hit it at a weird angle with a blacklight and it says GABI MARTINEZ. Looked him up. Dude can shred.
I tried a bunch of new and old Les Paula. Ended up buy a 2004 root beer standard. At 10lbs, it's a bit heavier than yours but a lovely guitar. I like the alnico 5 burstbucker pros on these. You don't get alnico 5 on the traditional looking 2019 Les Pauls.
Have you heard that Epiphone is rumored to have headstock changed to open book style, TBA at NAMM 2020 ? Cesar kinda teased it on his instagram page a while ago, and Mark Agnesi talked about some exciting stuff coming from Epiphone in the Andertons interview.
Hi, i found with google a picture in the 1960 gibson catalogue and it looks like they were calling the Les Paul the 'Les Paul Standard' already back then. www.vintageguitarandbass.com/gibson/catalogues/1960_10.php Btw. Do you think the different neck angle of an old Les Paul or a Custom Shop compared to i.e. a more recent Traditional makes a difference in sound? I came across this because the pickupheight already looks so different on old and new models. Same on my 2016 Trad. where my pickups stick out quite a bit when setting them to my taste.
How about vintage tiescos Kingston airline harmony vox everyone reviews Gibson and fenders I like my Gibson's but nothing sounds like my Kingston swinger or my harmony rocket and my Kingston bass is out of this world
Wyatt Johnson a kid in my school used to bring in his dads old vox guitar and I’ve never seen another one like it since. It was kind of similar to one of those natural neck through Ibanez guitars from the 70s. Too bad he couldnt play it lol
Austin - is the Gibson Les Paul Standard "hand made"? I priced a 2019 at about $2,400 is that also accurate? I notice a difference when you are playing a model you really like or are getting into, such as this one. Your playing is a bit more aggressive and more accurate and a harder rock edge to it. Yeah, I notice these things lol. I like that color, the red is OK with it but yeah why use black if everything else is cream?
@@acemew3255 Yeah that's the same info I have. I was watching a Darrel Braun video yesterday and he was comparing the Eastman single cut to the Gibson les Paul standard. he was telling his viewers that both guitars are hand made and that the Gibson costs about $1,000 to $1,500 more than the Eastman. He summarizes his review by saying the Eastman is a better guitar. I have long said Braun was just anti- Gibson and the misinformation he gave yesterday helps prove that. The Eastman IS hand made, all of it. So to compare that with a more machine made guitar is not a fair comparison and the Eastman goes for about $2,200 so with the Gibson going for $2,500 that certainly is not a price difference as large as the one Braun says lol. Hey thanks for the info I appreciate it!
BTW earlier this week my Gibson 1958 reissue les paul arrived and I’ve been playing it every single day and I’m very happy with it, got it for roughly $2500 used, a much better investment than a “hand made” CHINESE guitar :3
@@acemew3255 - I hear ya! is this the guitar you said UPS was taking it's sweet time delivering? I wish there was a way to share pictures on You Tube.Someone needs to invent a new You Tube, one that does not discriminate as the current one does, but then have on each channel a place where people can talk and share. Sort of like a You Tube/ Facebook amalgamation lol. I would love to see pictures of the different guitars guys like you have.
Nice guitar but I still prefer my '05 Trans Amber 50's neck LP. One piece back. Same pickups (& almost identical readings) . Scooping out all that mahogany just seems wrong to me .
Yes it does. You can find a ton of people who will play through an amp with enough electronic help involved that will "prove" it doesn't affect the tone, but it most definitely does. I brought my 1977 Standard into a local guitar shop here and played it against a few chambered Les Pauls, and whether it's a sound you like or not, it does affect the tone of the guitar. I prefer zero weight relief and have been playing Les Pauls for 30 years at this point and the weight has never affected my back or anything like that at all (maybe I've just been lucky, but nope, no strain on me physically) and I much prefer the sound of my solid body Les Pauls
It does, but I think it makes it more interesting. My 08 is super resonant and loud acoustically and it has an airier, more complex tone than say my 10lb 2013 Traditional. But it also has very slightly less sustain.
@10:00 Weird Color Combination? Better then an aLL Flamed PRS!!! Really what would they do? Color Theory says the back should be blueish, as blue is the opposite (aka Complementary Color) of orange (red and yellow) But that might be a little too pretty/jewel-like/PRS for me too... Maybe a rootbeer float with more head then beer? Or some kind of color that would suggest a CLEAR GLASS MUG? I really don't know, but you are right, THE RED BACK IS WRONG. IMHO
Love the look and the tone of this. Sounds very chunky and meaty. I hate root beer (never had one till I was 30 cos its not really sold here in the UK except for those shops that import US candy and drinks, so I eventually tried one and it tastes like mouthwash, eww) but I love root beer finish. This guitar seems to be in great condition too. I'd love an SG ith this maple top and finish
@@hkguitar1984 nope, it was root beer, because it said root beer on the label. I actually then tried a handful of other brands of root beer. They all taste of mouthwash. I'm not the only one who thinks fhat, watch the video by Ola Englund where he tries a root beer for the first time (it's a guitar channel too but he does jokey vids where he tries American food for the first time, cos he's Swedish). It did taste sweet, as you say, but then actual mouthwash also tastes sweet. Some of my friends have also since tried root beer, and they all say it taste like either mouthwash or cough syrup. We have ginger ale/ginger beer in the UK, the root beers I tried taste nothing like ginger beer, I could see myself eventually liking root beer if I had it enough. But yeah to us Europeans, root beer is one of those weird things yanks like to eat that we don't quite understand, like for example donuts with bacon on top. That similarly sounds bizzare, like how root beer seems bizzare when you first taste it, but then it actually is probably delicious because mixing salt and sweet, the salty bacon with the sweet dough and the sugary icing of the doughnut, would probably work surpsingly well. Another weird one was peanut butter and "jelly" (we call it jam) sandwiches. It sounds bizzare, but I eventually made one and it turned out to be delicious, it tastes like peanut M&M's. American cuisine often seems bizzare but then turns out to be great. If root beer was avaliable in the UK outside of all those American food import shops that have popped up over recent years, I'd probably buy it a lot and grow to love it. It tastes like mouthwash but is strangely moreish. Like talking about it now makes me want to get some again. Mouthwash iand cough syrup are tasty anyway Oh that reminds me of another bizzare thing Americans do, put ice cream in root beer, a "float" I belive you call it. Ice cream in a soda? Weird. Oh and I thought of another one, you guys dip fries into milkshakes!? But again that's probably nice, mixing salty and sweet
Sweet axe Trog! I really think the "Chambered" thing is over played by traditionalist.. If Gibson did it without saying it was chambered you would never have heard a thing about "tone" difference.. Its a solid body.. 75% of tone comes from the pickups, 20% from your amp and the last 5% you can split up with nut, bridge and wood. That guitar is awesome.. I have BB pros in my Standard and Im not crazy about them (cleaner tones) but I have heard worse in a Standard.. I find they sound better set a lil lower to nix some of the edgy bite.. They kinda like having mic too close to your mouth- back it off a bit and it smooths the tones edge. Thanks Trog..another fine display! The AC/DC sounded really good!
Grab a sip here: reverb.com/item/28499955-video-2008-gibson-les-paul-standard-50s-neck-lp5-rootbeer?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly
0:18 - What is a Standard?
1:10 - Golden Era Standards
1:34 - New Colors
2:11 - Chambering
3:30 - 2019 VS 2000s Standards
4:19 - Inside Look / Specs
8:15 - Tone Test
9:36 - Final Thoughts
10:02 - Condition
11:37 - Blacklight Test
12:25 - Case
What picks do you use Austin lad? Cheers.
i love it
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Root Beer= not really beer but very delicious, not unlike the finish on this LP. Root Beer is a hands down winner, great color!
Root Beer Float!
LOL
I would like to see this same guitar with the brown/natural to the back and sides.
A very handsome guitar indeed
I think this guitar would be even better with hotter pick-ups if you ask me.
I'm not even joking, Trogly has to have one of the best comment sections of any channel I've ever watched. You guys are awesome, and I love how everyone can actually say their opinion without being badgered in the replies. Congrats Trog, you've brought together an amazing community of guitar players and not just that everyone seems good hearted and seem to know what their talking about. Thank you Trogly, been around since the carpet and I've got to say that I don't think I've ever found a more genuine channel than yours. Love the vids keep it up. 🖒
Very attractive finish! I would definitely pass on the other finishes in the series, though. I'm all for non-traditional finishes, but boy, those were ugly!
Also, I'm really impressed by how much you've improved as a guitar player over the past month or so. The demo portions have been great lately!
Definitely the best finish of the series. I was surprised at how long the gecko and latte finishes lasted on the market. This example has an extra wide variation in tone between the pickup settings and that came across in the clean/dirty sound demos.
I love my 2008 Standard!! I also love the chambering bc it's sooo much lighter. The asymmetrical neck fits your hand nicely too.
Speaking of brown, would you ever consider demoing/reviewing an ES-325? I'm a huge Kings of Leon fan and would love to see you demo Caleb Followill's favorite guitar!
I have that very guitar with the 60s neck . A 2008 model with a chambered body. My top is much more flamed. Much more flamed. I love the chambered body. Mine came with a pick guard but not installed. I actually drilled and installed it on mine for a while but took it back off. Mine is all original. Haven't changed a thing. Haven't needed to. It plays and sounds great.
That color is great! Exactly what you need for getting that, "brown sound."
Really love being able to see the wood figure on the top. Nice looking guitar, sounds good too.
Beautiful example Austin ,thanks for sharing !
Hearing you talk about this era makes me really regret not buying one when it was at such a great price. I bought an emerald green studio because I didn't want to spend the extra $100 for the burst standard
Keep up your playing and practicing. You’re definitely sounding better more and more every new video.
I have a Gibson les paul standard elite.made at this time era. It has a 50’s style ebony neck, and sante fe sunrise body. Every body loves the tones of this guitar. Went to three different guitar centers. Then went aanother music store in Kent
Dang you, Trogly. Been looking for a root beer LP. Loved the video and she is already gone. All well. Keep up the great videos!
All of the Traditional models, which is what the 2019 Standards are, have been really good in my experience. I picked up a 2009 “Lightburst” Traditional in August and like it more than the 10 or so ‘19 Standards I’ve played. The Lightburst is similar to the new Unburst 60’s Standard, just a shade darker amber.
I’m buying up the Traditional and 19 Standard husks on eBay because I have a pile of parts to use up too. Great way to find a guitar for cheap if you have parts laying around.
Oh, the ‘09 Traditional is a “Plus Top” too, which isn’t available for the ‘19 Standard. You have to hunt down a ‘19 with a good top, unless the retailer is selecting tops for a markup, Which I appreciate if the markup isn’t exorbitant.
I love the color of this, one of my favorites.
Great video! Love the knowledge you drop.
I like the latte finish, I hope you can document one Trogly.
Not so rare on a Danelectro. Imho, I thinks it looks beautiful on an old Dano but a bit cheap on a Les Paul.
2:20 You're exactly right, it's 100% the electronics. The only difference in tone with chambering is MAYBE (solid maybe, just a notch below snake-oil) SLIGHTLY less sustain. That might be detectable to the human ear if you regularly hold a note for like a minute through a clean amp channel, but it's completely contrived 99.99997% of the time. Solidbodies sound the way they do because of pickups, electronics, bridge, fret material, nut material, and fingerboard material. In that order.
Not a lot of “Standards” with thicker necks, especially what is listed “50’s Rounded” profile that can be deceiving. Many are less than .85 at the first fret. This one is close to R9 at .87, I was rather surprised this one is that thick. I really like how your measure the neck sizes. Makes a huge difference for someone like me on the fence buying a guitar. This one is a Very cool guitar!
Love the root beer stain on the wide flame and heavy grain top.
For what it's worth. The best lespaul I own is an 08 standard that has the clambering. It doesn't feel lighter. It just rings out a little more than others.
One thing that interests me (not a criticism) - you rarely talk about neck relief, intonation or tuning stability on the Gibsons that you review / resell, yet we all know that this is a regular focus point due to the historic design. Clearly with travel and temperature, the wood (and neck) moves and it would be impossible for every one of these guitars you buy to be perfect out the box without any tuning instability or string buzz. I just wondered if you set the truss rod, clean / lubricate the nut, adjust the string height and intonation, tighten tuners etc before you do the playing demos? It's the first thing I would look at on a Gibson after inspection before I considered gigging the guitar. You could argue that string height is a personal preference but not if you have buzz because of a bow, badly levelled frets or a poorly cut / worn nut.
Thanks for the regular insight - best wishes from England.
I don’t do professional set ups but I do check to make sure the rod works and set it straight/with slight relief - properly wrap and stretch the strings, clean the fretboard and polish the frets.
Definitely love this finish.
Love the root beer color! Regarding the price, I guess the term "affordable" is subjective. To me, $2,500 for a Standard Gibson Les Paul is not affordable though maybe compared to a custom it is cheaper. I have a 2019 LP STD 60s and am happy with it. Again it is all relative.😎
This guitar reminds me visually of the Eastman antique varnish SB59 Les Paul style model
I just passed on a Rootbeer Supreme and went with a White one instead. Kinda regret it.
That is exactly why there is no such thing as the right guitar, as soon as we get one, it's "Oh, why didn't I get it in this or that color". My most stupid moment? When Epiphone was having their guitars build in Indonesia, I just bought the Ebony LPJ for $100 and I could have bought them all in 5 different colors for the price of a shit Chinese built LP Pro. The Chinese built that I've bought since? All 5 are crap, but that Indo built LPJ is just fantastic. I literally can't describe the difference in quality. That was a huge error on my part, you can hardly even get LPJ's now and none at $100 per. Frickin' Gibson, the 4-5 hundred dollar Epi's are on par with the crap Maestro I bought from "Made by Gibson" at Walmart for my (at the time)unborn grandchild. She'll be able to beat on it until she's old enough to respect her gear. When, boy WHEN? Are you going to get your shit together? Fuck China, go back to the indonesian factories, they actually take pride in their work! China just plays, "Give me the diagram", slap some plywood down and fuck the customer.
Made me thirsty just looking at the finish!😁 Thanks Austin. Very nice looking and sounding Les Paul.Have a great weekend!🎸🎸🎶🎶
i gotta a late 70s washburn hawk that has a very similar rootbeer burst kinda look..i love it
Nice top and color. Although maybe it needed a walnut stained back instead of red mahogany?
Love me some brown guitars.
Yeah, I'm planning to get an SG and I'm gonna get a walnut one. Just that natural brown wood finish. I think they're beautiful
THE ROOT BEER BARREL SURE IS A VERY COOL FINISH
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Another beauty. Thanks Austin.
I'd love to see you get your hands on some jazzmasters
Hey Austin, I'd really be interested to hear your thoughts on Sweetwater's new roasted maple neck exclusive Telecasters
Looks close to my 2004 amber LP standard. Mine wasn't drilled for a pick guard either and I can't bring myself to put holes in it to add the guard. The root beer is sweet!
I preferred the Desert Burst myself.
Root beer is a great color. I'd rock the heck out of it. I sanded the top off my first setneck epiphone lp when I was around 20 years old. I stained the top brown. I wanted it to turn out like this. It's cool, but it didn't look like this.
There was a Rickenbacker 4001 called the Rootbeer burst or something to that effect. And I want one.
Hey dude like your show you seem to know what you are talking about awesome I recently bought a 70’s hormone les Paul copy as a project having a hell of a time finding parts for it do you have any advice for where to find parts keep up the good work
Too late on this one. Really liked the look and tone of this LPS... would have been a nice upgrade from my '09 Studio
What a beautiful finish. They could release them again as a limited run.
i saw a rootbeer studio on craigslist. dude was charging $2,000
A Lot has been changed about that guitar. I have a 2008 Standard spec made in 2011 with no modifications and that guitar has been gutted among other changes. It originally had a PCB board style elecronics mounting with solderless pots and the truss rod cover has the word "Standard" printed on it. It's interesting to see the variations in the models as mine has a 1-piece mahogany back and the rosewood fretboard is near ebony darkness. It should have Gibson Burstbucker Pro pickups and Grover locking tuners, but strangely, I've seen some without the Grover locking tuners. They also had locking Neutrik input jacks and Tonepros bridges. Nonetheless, that guitar you have there has been changed quite a bit. You already caught the knob replacement but yeah, it's been changed a lot.
Super late reply, but to add to the record...I just became the 1 millionth owner of this exact guitar (I'm still waiting for it to ship)...but I did some digging around because I was curious about the same thing. 2008 was a wild year for Gibson...they tried a bunch of stuff out like you're saying (PCB, Neutrik output jack, etc). My investigation revealed that the "new" 2008 year models were released in late July / early August of 2008. It appears that guitars with birthdays earlier than late June/ early July shipped with 2007 specs This guitar has a birthday of May 29th and appears that it would have shipped as shown here (minus the mentioned replaced Schaller double ring tuners, lightweight tailpiece, truss rod cover)...regular output jack with cream plate, burstbucker pros, hand-wired pots. Can't wait to check it out. It's my first standard AND my first Trogly guitar! Also curious why it's been passed around so many times (at least 8 times including me...and that's just what I could find on Reverb. The very distinctive top made it super easy to track down).
@@RUSS312 Oh wow well you just taught me quite a lot right there! Thank you for that info. I thought that guitar had been seriously modified by a purist! lol! Well then, congrats on a really nice guitar! This stuff can get so confusing. I'd say that it makes your Les Paul a bit unique!
@@visionop8 I was ALSO educated! I love getting into nerdy details about this stuff...which is why Trogly is a GIFT. Either way, I was happy with it...it was either mostly unmodified or modified by someone who REALLY CARED. Both have their advantages.
Word on the street from the FIRST Reverb listing I found was that this guitar was given to a Gibson-endorsed blues musician by Gibson. Could just be a story, but there's a faded stencil of a name on the case I can't quite make out in photos. Looking forward to uncovering that mystery as well once it gets here :).
@@RUSS312 Did you ever find out who owned that Les Paul?
@@visionop8 The name was completely rubbed off the case by the time it got to me..then I forgot...I just hit it at a weird angle with a blacklight and it says GABI MARTINEZ. Looked him up. Dude can shred.
I tried a bunch of new and old Les Paula. Ended up buy a 2004 root beer standard. At 10lbs, it's a bit heavier than yours but a lovely guitar. I like the alnico 5 burstbucker pros on these. You don't get alnico 5 on the traditional looking 2019 Les Pauls.
Gorgeous - want one!
Beauty for sure. My preference has always been the tobacco burst.
Awesome!,thanks Trogg!
is that good wood thing plausible for SGs too? i have a 2008 SG Special Faded in my collection and it has crazy wood grain.
Nice guitar , hang on to it 👌
It’s beautiful 😍!
Ever wonder why they didn't do the asymmetrical neck on the thicker neck profile?
It's beautiful.
Love the natural wood look.
Have you heard that Epiphone is rumored to have headstock changed to open book style, TBA at NAMM 2020 ? Cesar kinda teased it on his instagram page a while ago, and Mark Agnesi talked about some exciting stuff coming from Epiphone in the Andertons interview.
I would buy one with the open book headstock. The ugly epi headstock really turns me off to otherwise great guitars.
I heard about the IG thing, but it was then deleted. Sounds like they are going back to the old Epiphone headstocks. Should be interesting...
The lack of binding between the black headstock face and and mahogany headstock has always looked wrong to me.
Mr. Pibb; Drink Authentic! :)
Hi, i found with google a picture in the 1960 gibson catalogue and it looks like they were calling the Les Paul the 'Les Paul Standard' already back then.
www.vintageguitarandbass.com/gibson/catalogues/1960_10.php
Btw. Do you think the different neck angle of an old Les Paul or a Custom Shop compared to i.e. a more recent Traditional makes a difference in sound? I came across this because the pickupheight already looks so different on old and new models. Same on my 2016 Trad. where my pickups stick out quite a bit when setting them to my taste.
Tell you this twice now,
what you think about gibson labels with the point of the "i" letter that touch the "G" letter?
Thanx.
I've tasted root beer several times, it really smells like varnish for wood. How you Americans can drink it?:)
That maple top is thick!
You are gonna make me buy a les Paul
Damnit
PLEASE REVIEW A FIREFLY LP!!
Have you documented the Gibson Les Paul Classic Custom Guitars they brought out when the FBI seized their Rosewood stock?
How about vintage tiescos Kingston airline harmony vox everyone reviews Gibson and fenders I like my Gibson's but nothing sounds like my Kingston swinger or my harmony rocket and my Kingston bass is out of this world
Wyatt Johnson a kid in my school used to bring in his dads old vox guitar and I’ve never seen another one like it since. It was kind of similar to one of those natural neck through Ibanez guitars from the 70s. Too bad he couldnt play it lol
5:13 What does PW in Bridge mean?
I brought the ice cream... Rootbeer float anyone??? Very nice color , I like it..
Austin - is the Gibson Les Paul Standard "hand made"? I priced a 2019 at about $2,400 is that also accurate?
I notice a difference when you are playing a model you really like or are getting into, such as this one. Your playing is a bit more aggressive and more accurate and a harder rock edge to it. Yeah, I notice these things lol. I like that color, the red is OK with it but yeah why use black if everything else is cream?
The LP Standard (non custom shop) is not hand made, only the custom shop ones are, the 2019 lp standard retails for $2500 iirc
@@acemew3255 Yeah that's the same info I have. I was watching a Darrel Braun video yesterday and he was comparing the Eastman single cut to the Gibson les Paul standard. he was telling his viewers that both guitars are hand made and that the Gibson costs about $1,000 to $1,500 more than the Eastman. He summarizes his review by saying the Eastman is a better guitar. I have long said Braun was just anti- Gibson and the misinformation he gave yesterday helps prove that.
The Eastman IS hand made, all of it. So to compare that with a more machine made guitar is not a fair comparison and the Eastman goes for about $2,200 so with the Gibson going for $2,500 that certainly is not a price difference as large as the one Braun says lol. Hey thanks for the info I appreciate it!
BTW earlier this week my Gibson 1958 reissue les paul arrived and I’ve been playing it every single day and I’m very happy with it, got it for roughly $2500 used, a much better investment than a “hand made” CHINESE guitar :3
@@acemew3255 - I hear ya! is this the guitar you said UPS was taking it's sweet time delivering? I wish there was a way to share pictures on You Tube.Someone needs to invent a new You Tube, one that does not discriminate as the current one does, but then have on each channel a place where people can talk and share. Sort of like a You Tube/ Facebook amalgamation lol. I would love to see pictures of the different guitars guys like you have.
Ron Just Ron umm I’m not sure who said that but there even isn’t such a thing as UPS in Europe so it definitely wasn’t me
damn i would love to buy it but im driving tonight
Nice guitar but I still prefer my '05 Trans Amber 50's neck LP. One piece back. Same pickups (& almost identical readings) . Scooping out all that mahogany just seems wrong to me .
Beautiful
This is not a 2008 spec. Where are the Bourne gold pots, locking tuners etc. Longest tenon? I don't understand?
Does the clambering really effect the tone? 🤔
Clambering ? Probably significantly . I wouldn't take it rock climbing if I were you 😁
Yes it does. You can find a ton of people who will play through an amp with enough electronic help involved that will "prove" it doesn't affect the tone, but it most definitely does. I brought my 1977 Standard into a local guitar shop here and played it against a few chambered Les Pauls, and whether it's a sound you like or not, it does affect the tone of the guitar. I prefer zero weight relief and have been playing Les Pauls for 30 years at this point and the weight has never affected my back or anything like that at all (maybe I've just been lucky, but nope, no strain on me physically) and I much prefer the sound of my solid body Les Pauls
@@shaunw9270 Ha.... I just now noticed the typo!! I'd imagine clambering probably gives at more echoing riot like sound 🤓
It does, but I think it makes it more interesting. My 08 is super resonant and loud acoustically and it has an airier, more complex tone than say my 10lb 2013 Traditional. But it also has very slightly less sustain.
@10:00 Weird Color Combination? Better then an aLL Flamed PRS!!! Really what would they do? Color Theory says the back should be blueish, as blue is the opposite (aka Complementary Color) of orange (red and yellow) But that might be a little too pretty/jewel-like/PRS for me too... Maybe a rootbeer float with more head then beer? Or some kind of color that would suggest a CLEAR GLASS MUG? I really don't know, but you are right, THE RED BACK IS WRONG. IMHO
I thought it looked good with the pick guard myself.
I'm a pickgaurd on bloke 👌
Love the look and the tone of this. Sounds very chunky and meaty. I hate root beer (never had one till I was 30 cos its not really sold here in the UK except for those shops that import US candy and drinks, so I eventually tried one and it tastes like mouthwash, eww) but I love root beer finish.
This guitar seems to be in great condition too. I'd love an SG ith this maple top and finish
Sounds like you tried a Ginger Ale, not a Root Beer! Root Beer is sweet, not like Mouthwash or Ginger Ale.
@@hkguitar1984 nope, it was root beer, because it said root beer on the label. I actually then tried a handful of other brands of root beer. They all taste of mouthwash. I'm not the only one who thinks fhat, watch the video by Ola Englund where he tries a root beer for the first time (it's a guitar channel too but he does jokey vids where he tries American food for the first time, cos he's Swedish). It did taste sweet, as you say, but then actual mouthwash also tastes sweet. Some of my friends have also since tried root beer, and they all say it taste like either mouthwash or cough syrup.
We have ginger ale/ginger beer in the UK, the root beers I tried taste nothing like ginger beer,
I could see myself eventually liking root beer if I had it enough. But yeah to us Europeans, root beer is one of those weird things yanks like to eat that we don't quite understand, like for example donuts with bacon on top. That similarly sounds bizzare, like how root beer seems bizzare when you first taste it, but then it actually is probably delicious because mixing salt and sweet, the salty bacon with the sweet dough and the sugary icing of the doughnut, would probably work surpsingly well.
Another weird one was peanut butter and "jelly" (we call it jam) sandwiches. It sounds bizzare, but I eventually made one and it turned out to be delicious, it tastes like peanut M&M's. American cuisine often seems bizzare but then turns out to be great.
If root beer was avaliable in the UK outside of all those American food import shops that have popped up over recent years, I'd probably buy it a lot and grow to love it. It tastes like mouthwash but is strangely moreish. Like talking about it now makes me want to get some again. Mouthwash iand cough syrup are tasty anyway
Oh that reminds me of another bizzare thing Americans do, put ice cream in root beer, a "float" I belive you call it. Ice cream in a soda? Weird. Oh and I thought of another one, you guys dip fries into milkshakes!? But again that's probably nice, mixing salty and sweet
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Sweet axe Trog! I really think the "Chambered" thing is over played by traditionalist.. If Gibson did it without saying it was chambered you would never have heard a thing about "tone" difference.. Its a solid body.. 75% of tone comes from the pickups, 20% from your amp and the last 5% you can split up with nut, bridge and wood. That guitar is awesome.. I have BB pros in my Standard and Im not crazy about them (cleaner tones) but I have heard worse in a Standard.. I find they sound better set a lil lower to nix some of the edgy bite.. They kinda like having mic too close to your mouth- back it off a bit and it smooths the tones edge. Thanks Trog..another fine display! The AC/DC sounded really good!
It is surprisingly balzy sounding.
I think Ice Tea is tastier than Root Beer.
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Thanks for telling us
HAVE A DRINK ON ME....ROOT BEAR THAT IS!!!!
Pardon my spelling of BEER not bear lol
Ha might as well go 4 a Soda, Trogly lol... Xheers! likd 110
Nice..👍🇦🇺
Rootbeer float, LoL
Howdey
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Who gives a shit
I still can’t believe it ❗️❗️who in the fuck is still wearing a belt buckle playing the guitar within the last 10 years ❓❓ who ❓❓❓
Shirt buttons make worming marks as well a rivets on pants
Have a drink on me awesome
Affordable? Hahahahaha
really? custom shop is all that? nope. I own gibson custom shop guitars and gibson standard guitars and the standards are better within my herd
Affordable??!! 😂😂😂
As compared to Custom shop*
Boooooring!!!
Epiphone 5/10
Gibson USA 9/10
Custom shop 10/10