67 - Definitive Guide to GLUE for Woodworkers Woodworking 101 lesson 3
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- 67 - Definitive Guide to GLUE for Woodworkers Woodworking 101 lesson 3
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What kind of glue is best for what application? And Why?
What are the differences between PVA & Polyurethane glue?
When do you need epoxy? Is epoxy stronger?
What is C/A Glue? When do I use C/A glue?
How about hide glue? Why isn’t that used much anymore?
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How long should I leave boards clamped up?
Why does James at King’s Fine Woodworking use so much glue?
What is the difference between Titebond- 1,2, & 3?
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Just found you today, I teach woodworking to Students in the carribean, I will link all of them to your channel as its very informative. Thank you. Subbed.
I am interested in Titebond 3 giveaway.
C.W P, thank you. I’m very honored!
VERY informative and presented greatly. If I learned as much from every other YT video, I'd be a great woodworker, indeed. IF I m lucky to be a winner, l'd like the epoxy with the dispensers.
is there a clue you can use in steaming applications?
Best, most informative 40 minutes I’ve spent all week! Thanks for sharing your considerable knowledge on the the subject. Epoxy is next in my glue education!
I am in Australia and there is no point in entering your competition for glue. However I do enjoy your videos and have learnt a lot from them.
Brand new to wood working, and I really found this video to be very informative. I would love to try the epoxy.
Thank you for that happy glueing. Big Joe
I use the CA glue in both the model and wood shop....thanks again for the review...well done.
Love watching your videos James. I've learned a ton! Thanks
I'd love to try the Titebond III
Good information. I've been picking glue based on bond strength, and set time, but never really did a decent deep dive on the various types. This helps a ton. I was wondering what the best choice of glue for making cutting board would be, and now I know.
LOL photo bomber having a fit at the end. Thank you I found this very informative and interesting.
I think it was a new dance move she saw on the internet
Best discussion about glues I've ever seen. It answered some questions I wouldn't have known to ask. My preference is for epoxy or TiteBond PVA. Thanks.
Very informative video and would like to try any of the glues you talked about in this video. Just starting out as a woodworker.
Would love to try the CA glue. Thanks again.
Thanks for the video James. I like using Titebond II. I don’t usually have any complicated glue ups, so 5 min open time is usually plenty of time for me. Epoxy is something I haven’t tried before and i would be interested in trying that out.
Thanks for watching!
Epoxy Please!! Thanks for the awesome content. You guys are great!!!!
Use titebond III for cutting boards and it lasts at least two years in a stored in a hot garage. Thanks for the video.
Hey James great job the Epoxy is interesting and something I will try again thank you for all you do
Love your channel epoxy
Many thanks for that James. Very informative. A couple of things I thought about while listening to you: First: The one property of epoxies that I really like is its machinability. Its so easy to file or saw or drill or whatever. Second: Gorilla glue seems to become exceptionally weak if you do not clamp your pieces really tight. Also, once I've opened the gorilla glue bottle it goes off quite quickly, despite having the bottle tightly closed. Now I'm just wondering if one would have similar problems with other polyurothane glues.
I live in good old Ireland, where finding a really good glue is not always easy, so if there is not someone else who really needs it badly, you could maybe ship me a small bottle of Titebond III. But you talked me into it - so if I don't hear from you in the next fortnight or so, I'll just have to try Amazon.
Many thanks again and please keep up the good work.
Cheers.
Thank you!
Like to try the ca glue. Thanks James
James - great review of all glues. I learned a lot. I've used epoxy previously, but not in woodworking. I'd love to receive some of these if possible. All the best.
I’d like to try the epoxy. Great descriptions and explanations!
Hi James. Thank you for yet another great video. I actually had that question about what the differences between TItebond I, II and III was, but now I have my answer. Tell Titebond that I'm located in Europe (Denmark to be exact) and in Denmark, "wood glue" means PVA glue, but after watching a few of your videos a few months ago, I got hooked on wanting to use Titebond. Now that they gave you a barrel for free as a "thank you", they doubled their number of stars they got from me.
Apart from Titebond, I also noticed the GluBot. This is something we don't have in Europe either. What does a GluBot typically cost in the US ? (I think there are two variants, maybe more; I've heard about GluBot and BabyGluBot).
And before I forget, I think it's important to let you know that when working with acetone, please use gloves (I recommend nitrile). I've been told that acetone goes right through your skin and into the blood streams and do damage. We don't want that to happen.
Thanks for sharing the information. I’d love to try out some epoxy.
Very well executed thank you
Great educational video James, clearly explained and demonstrated. This is going straight into my save/like file for future reference.
If I was going to enter for the giveaway I’d go for the Titebond 1416 Ultimate Wood Glue from Franklin, but I live in the UK.
Looking forward to your next video👍🏻
Thank you!
I just started turning pen. I have gotten into segmenting pens. I would like any type of glue. I also have a home shop making every thing I can do in wood. Enjoy your training tapes. Thank you for taking the time to put together a great video.
Would love to try the CA glue
I would love to try the epoxy glue
Thank you for an informative video. I'd be interested in one of the epoxy kits. Thank you.
Since you're just giving it away. I'd love to try some epoxy. I've never really gotten into the stuff since it's a little more expensive and complicated but it seems like I could find some good uses for it.
Hello James, Loved you very informative video here. I never knew all the differences between all of the glues out there. I am really interested in trying out the Epoxy glue. I am thinking I would like to make a river table. Hope all is well with you and yours.
Hi Felix! Thank you!
Awww i missed the giveaway. It's okay, still like your videos :) ...and the Sketchup vids are super awesome too.
Great video, informative and well presented as always. I would be thankful to win any of the glues.
Beautiful lesson James.
I am of your own opinion on the use of the various hills.
As I use them (I am a hobbyist) my biggest problem is the durability in the bottles, the PVA in 1 kg pack (more or less 2lbs) lasts me more than a year!
so packs like the ones you showed CA and Epoxy for my uses would be wasted.
I managed to throw away half a bottle of 20 grams of CA!
The one you talked about the least is the polyurethane glue.
knowing that it reacts to the humidity of the air I think it has a short enough life once the vial has been opened (in the Po valley it is easy to have relative humidity above 60%) but, I understood correctly? Does the fully cured glue become a foam? if so, you should always use the clamps for gluing with this glue!
here I found a two-component polyurethane glue (like the epoxy but it is stated on the polyurethane packaging) very thick that you can work as filler grout as well as glue and it works well even if much more expensive than the other glues.
See you in the next videos
Some guy told me about how to use a little salt to keep pieces from sliding so much. Wait...that was you! The gluru of woodworking.
I would love to try the epoxy kit I am an avid user of Titebond I, II, III and have used CA glues the only epoxy I have used is very small 5 minute syringe kits. Thanks for the opportunity to win some and try it.
I would like to try CA glue
I am interested in Titebond pva Glue Very informative video.
Do you have experience with (5%) acetic acid or formaldehyde or aluminium sulfate to make the glue stronger or harder or more moist resistant?
Hi there! nice videos BUT I cannot hold myself. You see, in 00:04:17 you nailed it! The Greek word KOLOS means ASS. I am Greek so I just wanted you to know you made me laugh. The Greek word for GLUE is KOLLA. Nice videos keep it up
The epoxy would be a pretty neat glue to get so I can try it on an end table before I do it on the wife’s dinner table. I’ll need a lot of practice lol.
most glues if used correctly will work fine. However the most important thing for your wallet is CHECK THE GLUE DATE. You have no idea if you don't check how long the stuff has been sitting on the shelf. If its more than two months old go buy it some place else!
Probably a bit late. The hide glue would be great.
Hi James, I've been a follower of your channel since I ventured into woodworking upon my retirement a couple of years ago. I felt compelled to thank you for the fine service you provide this wonderful community of woodworkers. The knowledge, experience and talent you and your lovely family bring to this community are vast and extremely valuable. I fully understand the time and effort it takes to produce a single video for our consumption and when I look at the catalogue of topics you've tackled to share it's easy to be impressed.
It's individuals like yourself that make this community one that is healthy and thriving even when our economy is not. Thank you so much for your dedication and love of this artform and sharing what information you can for our benefit. Cheers my friend and God bless you and your beautiful family.
Oh my, your sweet daughter made me laugh out loud with her sweet “photo bomber” antics. You family is priceless James; you’re truly blessed.
Hi Judi, thank you! You are very kind.
You may never see this comment James due to the length of time between making the video and now, but seeing your family at the end of the video and how happy they are provided me with one giant smile and a moment of joy. Thank you brother.
Hi Russell, I see them all. I don’t always have time to respond. But I always read them. Thank you for your kind comment.
Absolutely Fantastic, science based, comprehensive glue tutorial. This is by far the best educational material on glue I have ever come across and the presentation style and information is delivered so well it kept me engaged throughout the entire presentation. You are a first class educator. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience with the rest of the world!
PS
Love the family involvement!
I’d love to try the epoxy'
Thank you for these videos. As a novice, it’s incredibly helpful.
I very much appreciate your Woodworking 101 Lessons... I recently retired and now setting up my dream shop in my 2 car garage. I have purchased new the whole works with regard to 'machines'; jointer, planer, table saw, dust collection, band saw, etc. I already had a few machines that were less than 'shop' worthy :-) Since I am an 'older' woodworker just setting up shop I purchased my 'life long' equipment. My dream, link many of us, began in 9th grade woodshop... and then along comes 'life'. Now I am able to enjoy after working 40 years toward this opportunity !
I especially like your in-depth lessons on topics, recently "glue"... my nature is to know how and why things work ! Along with quality and focus on the end product. I will be a faithful viewer of your channel as I dive into my new shop ! Also it is great that you have brought your family into your passion for woodworking, what a wonderful legacy to pass on !
Since I am just beginning my new shop I of course would put to use ALL of the glues you spoke of in this lesson... but I would not be that selfish or presumptuous to ask for [or would I :-) ]... So narrowing it down to one I would be most interested in the Epoxies followed by the Tight Bond products...
Thanks again for you 'Lessons' and I look forward to advancing my skills in my new dream shop !
Hi Michael. Thank you for commenting!
This is without a doubt the best technical education seminar I've heard in my working career; technical information given to support the presentation at the layman level and written detail provided for those that want/need verifiable source data.
Gerry Smith (retired)
Houston
Hi Gerry, Thank you!
Your math is off. You cannot just add up forces on a board like that.
See physics.stackexchange.com/questions/423996/woodworking-clamps-does-force-add-up/424086
Hi. It is outstanding that you are so interested in the physics of what is going on in this clamping process. I took the time to read all of the comments in that exchange. And I am talking about pressure, which is force per unit area. So I am trying to get the total clamping force spread out over the whole board to come close to what I need.
If I need 200 pounds of force for each square inch and I have 35 square inches then I would like to have my total force at 7000 pounds. I don't want 7000 pounds under any one clamp I just want to add up the amount that each clamp contributes to the total pressure. And ideally I would like that pressure to be uniformly spread. I know that is impossible because the pressure under each clamp is certainly greater than the pressure between clamps.
However, force is certainly additive.
I noticed you used Newtons in your example which is great because that is a unit of force. But what I am ultimately trying to achieve is Pascals. Which is pressure. A Pascal, as you probably know, is a Newton per Square Meter. Remember, my original goal was to try and get close to Titebond's requirement of 200 psi, which is pounds per square inch. Which is a pressure measurement, not a force measurement.
So in your example you should have explained that I was trying to use 8 clamps of 300 pounds each covering 120 square inches (for example), to achieve an average pressure of 200 pounds per square inch over the entire surface.
I hope that makes more sense. Thank you for commenting. We would love to have you in our community group on Facebook. If you are interested.
facebook.com/groups/KingsFineWoodworkingCommunity/
~James
Very informative James. I am 74 years old and have been a woodworker for several years. I also have been using Titebond glues for years. But recently started using Titebond III due to your influence.
I would be interested in the epoxy giveaway as I do have a project in mind that would require an epoxy application.. Thank you for your consideration.
Your channel is very inspiring, motivating, and intellectually stimulating. You are a great teacher! Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much!
You really have the skill of teaching. Appreciate your work.
Very interesting video, I was not aware of the difference in all of the flies. My self I prefer the tight bond three. I use it for all of my projects, I have been woodworking about twenty years. After watching your video I may try some of the others. The one thing I was curious about is when using the epoxy glue is it hard on like planer blades or saw blades . Will it cause the blade to fill prematurely? The tight bond dose not cause any problems. Also how will the epoxy sand, so when you apply your finish coat you don't see any glue . I don't like change that well so probably will stay with what I'm used to. I tried your idea for using straws to remove excess glue. It works really well. Before I watched your video on glues I watched the one where you built a tool cart for your sander and grinder. Very nice project. I want to try and build one myself . One thing I noticed is how through you are with your videos. You cover everything very well
Please keep the projects coming and all of the good info. Thank you. H Burch
Fantastic...another video. We’ve been jonesing for another King’s installment.
Hi Tim, Thank you!
great vid as always. I too use the bond ||| but I always have issues with opoxy and figure out which is best to thanks for clearing that up for me. I would really be interested in the opoxy give away. Love your channel and your kids are great!!!
Really informative - thanks a lot. A question: a lot of musical instrument makers recommend Titebond Original because of its lack of 'cold creep' once dry. Hot hide glue is still used by many luthiers, myself included, because of this property (and its ease of disassembly when needed). Does anyone have any hard information about the 'cold creep' property of the Titebonds (i.e. is Original actually any better than II or III in this respect)?
Hi james, I am just getting into woodworking and setting up a designated woodshop. I dont have any practice with a table saw and EXTREMELY limited practice with a circular saw....so i was wondering is there something or multiple somethings that i can use in place of those two tools? As like you i am also in a wheelchair and any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. thank you.
I'm sure it's too late to ask, but after finding your channel last week I've been BINGE WATCHING all of your videos and just finally found this giveaway. I teach Stagecraft/Woodshop at a Title 1 (low income) Public High School (Desert View HS) in Tucson, AZ and we could sure use some of that glue! LOL. I'm sure they alreay found good homes. Anyway, Love your channel and your family!
Man this is crazy. I love woodworking videos. I started watching a cutting boards video with your girls. I really thought, man I recognize this shop. Your voice also sounded like one I had heard before. After that video I went to this one and put it all together. I did many inspections including the finals on your shop! Looks awesome. Just subbed.
On Titebond: "This is sounding like a commercial. I guess it kinda is because they gave me a sample for free, but whatever, I've always used it anyway."
On Total Boat: "For a woodworker, all epoxy is the same. You can get this, or something else, just look at cost and ease of use. They gave me this sample."
Your honesty is awesome. You're obviously not changing your rhetoric based on who's paying or sponsoring you, which is SERIOUSLY appreciated. Makes for a product reviewer I can trust.
Wow! I thought I knew a decent amount about glue...I was wrong. But NOW I know a decent amount about glue lol.
QUESTION: can you tell me the reaction that takes place the determines the end of a pva glues shelf life? Found a gallon of titebond III I forgot I had. Bought it just over 5 years ago.
The top area of the gallon (and the full glue bottle I found with it) started getting brown. I shook up the bottle and squeezed some out. Looked like the right color and consistency of TB3. I also glued 2 scraps of poplar together and it seems to be holding (although I haven’t REALLY tried to break it apart. Wanted to ask you before I tear into it.
Thanks for the super informative video!!!
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I know this is a huge faux pa, but construction adhesive can be super useful. But I would really recommend Locktite Max. Can fill huge gaps, it holds its shape and SUPER stong. Plus, it works on everything. It can also take repeated movement (I set my lathe tools in the handles with it). Plus water proof.
This is a lot of great information. Thank you. The one thing that I don't use Titebond III for (in my limited experience) is if I'm gluing up layers of wood for a bandsaw box out of light colored wood. As I understand it, Titebond III has ground up walnut shells in it, and it dries a bit dark, so it can show up at the joints of the box (even at such a thin layer thickness of
Does bonding strength [referencing Titebond] depend on *clamping pressure* ? That is *one* brilliant class. Thank you, James.
34:32 Gosh - I'm an idiot. There's my answer..
James,
Your videos are well educated, but how can I see all your videos for the crash courses vid 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc, the sequence are all randomly and do not fall sequence order, are all videos mounted on you tube , I tried looking for them as I only seen video 1, and 3, then it jumps to #5.
Frank.
CA glue's shelf life can be extended by refrigerating it, though I would never put in with food. At my previous work, we bought Loctite 444 in one pound bottles and refill the small bottles from that. Kept it in the same fridge as our leaded solder paste, so no worries about food (we had a RoHs exception).
That was an amazing piece of information packing. Really amazing, this video deserves an award. Couple of things, first, please feel free to talk more about the chemistry aspects of woodworking. That's fascinating stuff and it hardly appears at all in the woodworking literature. Second, I did wish you would talk a bit about the tools used to manage glue. I've seen you have a variety of applicators and brushes and such, specialized for gluing use, and it would help to know more about them.
Excellent series keep up the good work, you've reinvigorated me to do woodworking again. Your lessons are great, and no matter how much you think you know, you never stop learning.
About your Amazon links, noticed its only Amazon.com, is there a way to support you using Amazon.ca(Canadian version)?
Love your videos. Very helpful to new woodworkers like me. I have been using tightbond 2 on my native american style flutes, but would really like to try out the epoxy. Though I am curious as to how you deal with squeeze out from epoxy? Will it wipe off like the tightbond?
Hi James.. thanks for the video and the download! Was wondering if you have ever used Cascamite, which comes in a powder form and has to be mixed with water before use. Like a lot of things there are some health concerns (chemical composition) so whilst it is available in the UK it may not be in the US. Used correctly it is incredibly strong, has a long open time, is waterproof and is gap filling. Possible downside is it dries ‘rock’ hard and therefore cleanup can be a problem if you leave excess squeeze out to fully cure...
Thank you for providing me more info on glue . I’ve been using the standard go to wood glue for my projects . Now I know what’s available to me . I’d be interested if selected to use the tight bond 3 PVA glue if I selected . Great job on your videos . Thank you .
I've been using Titebond and Titebond III for a couple of years now and would not switch for anything. I have recently been looking at a couple of outdoor projects that I need epoxy for, especially as a finish. Never had much luck with spar. I would love to have the epoxy for a test finish as well as use on the feet to eliminate wicking and help with wear. I'm subscribed and find all your videos very interesting. I've also purchased some plans to try.Keep up the good work as I never tire of learning, Thanks.
I started woodworking 65 years ago at the age of nine usjnd salvaged wood and nails from produce crates. My time and interest has fluctuated over the years, but retirement has allowed much more time in the shop. Most projects are for kids, grandkids. And a nonprofit i work with. In recent years titebond 3 has been my go-to glue. I can remember when just white glue was used extensively. I have thought about epoxy for some projects but the cost wasn't with the experiment. I would love to try some
Pretty good microphone
GREAT VIDEO! I have never used hide glue. I like how you discussed the different applications and how you can heat it to remove it. Sign me up for the hide glue!
Hello i just found your channel low what iv seen so far very informative. I love how your whole family is involved even the dog gets camera time LOL. I will be watching all your videos and using your links to purchase stuff. I'm sure your give away is over but if not i would love to try some of the epoxy. OH and love the THOR Hammers.
I would love to try the PVA Glues... Been using Titebond Original and just finished using my FIRST bottle!
Wow. New to woodworking and more than I could know about the different types of glue and their usage. Would love to try the 5:1 epoxy. Please keep up the woodworking lesson for us newbies. Thanks so much.
Is there anything titebond original has over 2? Price is very close.
What I mean is there a reason to buy original over 2 considering the gallons are less than $2 different?
3 is 1.5x the price so I can see a reason why some wouldn't go for 3. But just curious if there are things you would use 1&2 for differently or even 3 and why not just use 2 and 3 for everything or just 3 if cost wasn't the only driving issue?
Awesome video man, and family, you cover all the base’s especially with stuff I didn’t even know about glue, great great job…
Why don't you create free downloadable PDF with all the tools and other products you use with purchase links As you in the beginning videos...
Greg Nicharico
James, I've been watching your videos for some time now. I fine them very informative and hope to duplicate your tech for making a large, deep throat C clanp.
Thank you for that video on glue. I too have been using titebond 3 for years and have been really pleased with it. I like a longer open time and wish it was longer. I try to build a good joint so it is not all on the glue to hold it together. Thank you for all the technical information on the differences. I found the epoxy very interesting, especially the measuring by pumps. I don't build river tables so I don't want / need very much at a time. However, I saw you put those epoxy filets in you assembly table video and that got me thinking. I don't think that would work very well with titebond 3. Oh, and I consider polyurethane glue to be a mess - I think that I have it all cleaned up and then the next thing I there is more foam and it is really hard to sand away after it dries. But like you said it does stick to everything. Anyway, thank you for your videos.
I am having trouble in segmenting. Wood, cooper or acrylic, credit card, wood. I would like to try the two part epoxy. Also if you could get me the large size I have a blanket chest I am working on, It is made of Alder and have several large knot holes I would like to fill.
great informative video for a begining woodworker recently retired; would love TITEBOND ii and TITEBOND III
Very informative, this in conjunction with the live cast you did with Ferry, I learned quite a bit. I'm a titebond II manmyself. Never tried any large scale epoxy application due to budget restraints but I'd be interested to see it vs the result and ease of use when I'm constructing my laminated table tops.
I was excited about signing up to your woodworking community, unfortunately, Facebook is involved and has Facebooked your Facebook group. I do not know if it was your intention, but Facebook is making your community group look like a data mining operation.
whats the difference between CA glue and loctite super glue. cause man i keep buying them loctite glue cause they are good. but they are expensive like $4 for 1/10 oz
In regards to titebond wood glues: out there somewhere is a fool who thinks that saving a little change or is patriotic to glues of the past, but that's just what they are. The past and so the problems that came along with them are also the past. Not so new but still young considering how long man and, woman, have been working with woods in history, the titebond company brings new light and a new way of joining your projects together in a way that allows you to work easier allowing you to bring together pieces of absolute beauty. Treasures once considered mere garbage are now priceless and collector's will kill for them. This is why I use titebond to adhere my projects that they don't just grow legs and walk away. They stay put and together they will be here many moons to come after me. Thanks for the consideration and patience to listen to me tell my fellow man my little secrets of Mastering wood glue ups. Thanks titebond for thinking about me and my fellow man. Your great and don't forget to send me some magic sticky icky icky. Chris out.
Gracias por la información me podrias decir en que tiendas venden esos PRODUCTOS
Just found your UA-cam channel and they are very helpful. The lesson on glue was especially helpful and included lots of info I needed. I also just joined your community fb page and look forward to reading all the input from lots of sources. Thank You!
Really good review of the shop glues...I have a general shop and a small model hobby shop and glue is a big part of both...would love to try some of the epoxy...it is what I have used the least.
I recently bought 400 bf of rough sawn poplar, it has a lot of character to it that I'd like to preserve, knots, some old worm holes. I was wondering what I'd do to preserve them, now I know, thanks to this. I'd be interested in trying some of the epoxy
Judging by your previous videos, if you used hide glue, rabbits would be an endangered species, lol! I'd like to try the CA glue, thanks.
I use Titebond now, have tried Expoxy in the past (which I really like) but would like to try some CA glue since I have never used that.
Best instructional video about woodworking glue I've seen. Very informative and well presented. Thank you
Per your comment here is another request. I am trying to glue several types of wood in thin strips. all have different grain patterns. I would like to try some Super Glue (CA)
Thank you for the information, it was very helpful. Please consider me for the CVA glue giveaway.