Nowadays, I take it to mean you’re literally watching every video but just say you haven’t because you want to make it look like you don’t care. No one’s fooled, hunbot…
@@cmbwtheliel I think that’s true for bosslee for example, her straw men she argues against are at least somewhat based on real things people say. This woman though is just spewing nonsense lol
I had this happen to me recently. A monat hun i know was trying to deny that Monat products are not the reason other’s hair aren’t healthy… Yada yada and I have NEVER ONCE had the cheapest shampoo give me a rash. Monat gave me a rash on my scalp.. Thanks for downplaying my experience. Gaslighting 100%
@@maelovesdogs Literally, They always try putting oil in their hair because it's dry AF after using their products. You are NOT supposed to constantly put heavy oil on your hair (specifically these white women, black women have different texture hair that needs oils to stay luscious) These bitches need a LIGHTWEIGHT MOISTURIZER for they hair like a deep conditioner. That's why they all wear hats, they think "If I make enough money, it doesn't matter what my hair looks like because I can get wigs and expensive hair treatments!" They will LITERALLY do anything for a sale, they will even buy it FOR you as long as it's in YOUR name. Edit: Spelling
I’m so tired of seeing MLMs at our makers/crafts/vendors markets. I’m about to start a petition that MLMs shouldn’t be allowed at these events. It’s so annoying and it’s awkward
Omg yes! It’s so freakin annoying. I sometimes sell stuff at art/craft fairs and there’s always a ton of mlm Huns about. Like you didn’t make it and it’s not “your” business so please leave.
Agreed!! It’s definitely like that it Canton First Monday Trade Days, too. I see young living and abornne the most. All mlms need to be banned from outdoor vendors and markets.
Does she not grasp that you can feel pressured or even forced to do something without being physically threatened? or is she just ignoring it to fit her narrative
Listening to her rant about how her boss “can’t make” her put something in alphabetical order felt very adolescent to me. Refusing to do something logical that your supervisor asks you nicely to do just because you don’t want to answer to a boss is teenage drama.
"I've NEVER been bullied in high school, so idk why you're crying that 'you're being bullied.'" 🙃 Mam, it's almost like.....people have different life experiences.... who freaking knew???????
From what this Hun has said so far she seems like the exact kind of person to tell someone in an abusive relationship, "It's your fault because you don't just leave!"
OR "He loves you! You need to take it like a woman and be there for your man, you're obviously doing something to piss him off because he's a GOOD PERSON!" 🙄
I can guarantee she has been verbally abused many many times but she was made to believe it was ‘tough love’ so in her mind she hasn’t been made to do anything or abused her .
Her boss told her to do something and she was like “I’m not doing it.” That’s a sure fire way to lose a job. She seems like another young woman who doesn’t know much about life yet
When she implied that they’re not going to look through the files and expect them to be in alphabetical order…yes, they are, that’s why they told you to do it that way. I work an office job now, and when I don’t find a name because it’s out of order, it’s a little disorienting. The disrespect is unreal.
If organizing files was part of her job, she needed to organize the files. She seems very immature and self centered, unable to understand that life means doing what helps your organization, family, and community function well. That company is well rid of her.
She's obviously just incredibly entitled and privileged. Someone who does not have that sort of privilege would NEVER question their boss unless it was for something inappropriate or uncomfortable because they need to make money and can't risk losing their job. She doesn't have to listen because she's already got everything she needs in life, this is just extra. She is very likely a trust fund baby, a lot of them act super entitled and are "know-it-all's" without any real-world experience. Edit: Spelling & grammar
I just worked a ten hour shift as a baker at Panera, which I work full time there. As of an hour and a half ago it’s my birthday.. my Officially 32.. woo..😑😑. Tomorrow, I’ve got an appt for my daughter, and another ten hour shift.. buuuuut.. I absentmindedly forgot to bake one thing &; tomorrow morning- first thing- I’m going to go in, &; bake the item I forgot to bake. Because it’s my job. It’s not someone else’s to bake something on top of handling the massive amount of shit they already need to handle for the morning rush. Also, because not having that item will lose my cafe out on money. &; that won’t make or break my cafe, obviously. But this isn’t just my livelihood- but all of my co-workers. I’m going to make sure I handle my job so others won’t have to pick up the slack. I’m the only baker at my cafe. No one else should have to do my job. No one is telling me I have to go back in and bake the item I forgot. I’m taking it upon myself to be adult and correct a mistake I made- like an adult. That’s what having accountability is. She’s extremely entitled for refusing to do what she’s getting fucking paid to do😑😑😑
It's so frustrating to listen to someone speak when it's clearly apparent they haven't prepared what they were going to say at all. You can tell that the girl oftentimes began a sentence without knowing how she was going to end it.
The ignorance here is so funny. She just admits multiple times to not understanding the opposite argument and not seeking out any media about it and it trying to argue against it. It's the same mentality as "well that friend didn't do anything wrong to me" when another friend tells you about some horrible shit that was done to them. It's blatant ignorance
When I was in Herbalife one highly traumatic experience that I remember very clearly was during a training: being taken to the grocery store next-door and forced to make contacts with 10 strangers before I could go home. This girl seems to have a great experience with Monet but that is NOT THE NORM. A lot of up-lines REQUIRE proof of work or you are ostracized.
I had a strange woman approach me in Michael's of all places with a "business opportunity". There was a man standing a few feet away watching us. My first thought was that they were part of a s*x tr*fficking organization. Now I realize it was probably just an MLM. 😂
She seems proud to be ignorant. Girl, it's ok to learn and change your mind; if your beliefs hold water they'll stand up to scrutiny. But to bury your head in the sand and sing, "lalala, can't hear you" then you have already lost. Life is all about growth, not constantly being right.
Yes! It’s hard to have a productive conversation with someone like this; we have neither the time, patience or crayons to explain reality to someone like her 😂
I hate how she keeps saying "I've never been screamed at" "I've never been throw out" "my upline has never belittled me" what a weird fucking flex. Imagine saying with pride "my boss has never treated me with aggression". What the heck are your standards??
For the love of god, don’t hurt yourself trying to convince people that you’re not in a cult. CALL YOUR DAD. You are in a cult. And Chelsea!! You debunked every single one of her points with such grace. Thank you for this refreshing video🫶🏻
She was told at a previous job to put certain files in alphabetical order and she refused? My file clerk soul is weeping. Alphabetical order makes finding files/information so much easier. Unless there is a different coding system in place. Ugh. Her files must've be chaos.
Exactly!!! She and whoever had to help/relieve her must have wasted so much time! She would not be my employee for long. I’m not a micro-manager. I understand that my way isn’t always the best way. But alphabetical filing systems are the standard for a reason.
@@keisakura9014 I would bet it makes things faster and more efficient too. These Karens are too privileged to understand the necessity of staying organized. Can't find something? They can just buy a new one!
Homegirl REALLY should be reading from a script because this off-the-cuff thing is not working for her. She is coming across as very unintelligent; using words that don't even exist (pressur-y) and incorrect phrases "in my perspective"... Yikes.
@@maxgarcia1454 That's because her cognitive ability is still stuck at the level of a middle school child. When all your needs are met and an early age, you don't need to continue learning and maturing because your brain thinks "I have everything I will ever need!" bottom line, her privilege stunted her cognitive function.
I use $3.99 Trader Joe’s shampoo and I’m just aghast at the behaviors of the shampoo cult ladies. Every time. She starts the gaslighting. “I have never experienced ______” and her eyes get big which tells me she’s lying.
She thinks that people just call it a cult because they simply don’t like the company or had a bad experience. She is obviously just uninformed on the fact that there are literal outlines on what categorizes an organization as a cult. We don’t just go around calling everything we don’t like a cult 😂
it's so bizarre to me and really sad how so many of these reps wholeheartedly try to argue something and firstly not even read/watch what they are trying to refute.... then proceed to use really condescending, gaslighting, and patronizing language.... and it'll ALWAYS baffle me how any of them think behavior like this would be appealing to ANYONE on the fence about joining them or any other MLM
Oh my god this girl is still with Monat. She’s the girl who made a product post on the day of the Breonna Taylor trial. She also was “embarrassed” for us antiMLMers. Glad to see she’s still brainwashed 🥴
@@erinkerr6965 the post said, and I quote: “good morning. It’s a beautiful day to arrest the officers who killed breonna Taylor. Also the grab bag sale is going on. That is all.”
I think there are many people that don't actually understand what cults are, how they manipulate people, and the various tactics used. I was talking to a friend the other day and she had never heard the term "gaslighting" before. It was eye opening that there could be many people out there like her that are completely uninformed. This is why I'm so so glad for channels like this that shed so much light on the topic. Chelsea, you are so BANG ON with cult & manipulation info. Your extensive research is clearly evident!
Okay, this is just my personal opinion, but I dislike her trying to act "nice" while insulting and belittling people vs just being honest and openly mean. It makes her seem even more disingenuous and condescending and ultimately even meaner, like you're either too stupid to realize how she's treating you or too scared to call her out on it.
Latina friend here… 👋🏼 Picante is more like a salsa in most translations…. The words I’d choose would be “quedate” for stay and picosa/picoso for spicy 🌶 I’m not a pro or anything but I grew up speaking Spanish and still moderately fluent… I went the opposite direction as you and married a white man haha. Just my suggestion. Thanks for the great content as always!!!
If a) you took it personally and it wasn't about you, b) are defending it this hard without having all the information (information control, much?) and c) are victim blaming...you're likely in a cult or cult-like atmosphere.
Yikes. This was…something. Perfect example of someone being in a cult and proving WHY they’re in a cult. She was an easy target for them, that much is obvious. Edit to add: ma’am- your upline is NOT your friend. The moment you quit, you are cut off! I’d imagine her upline was being passive aggressive when she mentioned she didn’t see her posting about the business because that’s what they do to manipulate people to post more. JFC.
Do they not see how sad it is that they have to make these videos in the first place? If it's such a great business with a great community, this wouldn't be needed.
I love how she spends all this time trying to tell us it's not a cult, then finishes the video by stating that she can now hang out with her friend because she has joined the business. 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I hate the “how?!” With no attempt or desire to find the answer. She openly admits to not looking into or researching what she’s talking about, and then yells about how she doesn’t understand. No duh.
The thing about "you're gonna buy the product anyway" doesn't work for me. Could you imagine interviewing and Nike and getting that? "We think you'll be a great fit here, we just need you to buy between 200-400$ of sneakers first!" Oh and you're gonna need to get a pair or two each month to stay active here... you need shoes anyway right? Lol
She must’ve been a great employee. If my boss asked me to do something simple like put files alphabetically I would’ve done it. It’s very strange to actively go against your boss just bc you don’t feel like listening to them.
Why did she spend 45 minutes talking about how she doesn’t understand why people think its a cult when she could have spent her 45 minutes actually listening to videos that answer that exact question. smh
I was thinking this same thing. She seems like one of those girls that has a credit card that parents pay for, and doesnt realize whats really happening.
Someone doesn’t need to straight out “threaten” you or “be mean” for their behaviour to be abusive or manipulative. A big piece that she’s missing lol.
I’m so happy you’re doing better girl! Clean the house get that new energy. Go for a walk tomorrow. Take a bath. YOU GOT THIS. New podcast episode out Wednesday and a new video too 🤍🤍
I love that you started this video saying you weren’t going to put on makeup because you were going to the gym and ended the video with an almost full beat. 😂
Monat Hun: I thought about writing down my thoughts and being prepared with a coherent argument but I decided word vomiting would be more persuasive. Me: Incorrect!
A person at your job tells you to file alphabetically and “she can’t make you.” True…but then you get fired if you don’t. So what’s her point? I’m so confused.
When she gave the first definition of a cult I immediately typed in common possible misspellings...oh dear, hun. At least she ended up learning something new, though! If she has so little info regarding what a cult is that she didn't think what came up seemed off...then she may be beyond help at the moment. She should look up "coercive control" next! 🤦🏼♀️
wait, she really did just look at the real definition and immediately fumble over her words then say she is ending the live. She 100% realized its what she is in but is so brainwashed that she wont admit it.
That Hun is like, "I see people all the time saying murder is wrong, blah blah, but let me tell you _my_ perspective." Yeeeeah scamming people isn't a matter of perspective, Hun, let's see you try that next time you're in court for a traffic ticket.
My company paid for me to go to Ireland for 2 months for training. I paid nothing for that trip except for extra things that I did like gifts and museums. These girls need to learn that with most companies you don’t earn work trips, work trips are just a part of certain jobs
4 years in and only MMB that’s why she doesn’t feel the pressure. Her upline knows that she’s never going to go beyond that so why bother? I just got out and my heart breaks for her because she’s so incredibly brainwashed. She’s going to look back one day and be so embarrassed by everything she said in that video
This girl is just extremely young. Until she gets out of the same town (she reminds me so much of those back home and even myself at 18-20). I finally snapped out of realizing my perspective is not correct, nobodies is. It’s everyone separate perspectives and experiences. People always say to put yourself in someone’s shoes, yet we can do that and still walk in their shoes how WE would, not them. Just because you think you’re strong willed and not brain washed does not mean others have the same mental well being, or state to take things the same way and not be manipulated
"It's not a cult, why would anyone think that?? So crazzyyyyyy" *reads definition of cult* "Oh. I guess I get that... but I still don't think it's a cult." lol
Hi Chelsea, I was driving and listening to one of your videos today and I got to wondering-when these MLM members say they are "working" in bed, or "working" by the pool...what exactly is this work?? Are they literally messaging people on Instagram & Facebook for 8 hours straight, is this their work? Sorry if it's been covered in past videos, but I still do not 100% what their "work" is. Are they making spreadsheets, running business automation, are they on Zoom meetings? What do they actually do when they say "been working since 6 a.m.!!!"?
Can I just say I absolutely love your well wishes today. Miss Chelsea wants me to get a nap in, touch the grass and stay grounded, have nice weather, and great snacks. Describing such a lovely day! Lol ❤you
Love how you call them out. I got out of NWM 2 years ago. Don't get me wrong I made some mates for life but the cult side messed me up and took me back years worth of mental health wise. And when you do leave most of the teams just bully you. These people are not your mates (most of them)(rare to find the ones I did) they want you for your money and as soon as you stop they show who they are.
I'm going with she is playing dumb and the whole scattered thing is part of the act -- all these accusations about the company are absurd I can't even wrap my head around them, using "confusion" as a cover for having to make coherent counter arguments .And that this is the company's new damage control tactic and there will be lots more videos like this coming out from those who didn't join the exodus.
Holy crap that was a lot of words for her to say she doesn’t know what cults are or how feelings work. She’s like, “who made you feel that way?” or “who told you to feel that way?“. No sis, people who are not in cults feel feelings based on their actual experiences, not based on what someone else told them to feel.
It’s almost painful to watch. They keep saying they don’t know much about cults, or understand why people object to this business format - yeah, that much is clear! The lack of understanding and research is painfully naive. No matter what you believe in, job, morals, religion, politics - It is always beneficial to criticise and reevaluate often. Life is full of grey areas. It is hard to watch someone argue a point when they do not know what they’re arguing about. 😳 I can understand why you chose to discuss this!
This screams - “oh she’s never been mean to me so I don’t have anything bad against her” when the person is literally so toxic and hurtful to everyone around you.
The way she's talking like her timber and sound of her breathing sounds to me that doing this despite her personal desire to do so. Like her way of speaking right then makes me think of how I talk when I have an anxiety attack during public speaking.
“I don’t wanna belittle or diminish anyone’s experience”
*continues to belittle and diminish other’s experiences*
Have you ever listened to a 10 year old trying to sound smart and convince you they know something? That’s it. That’s the comment.
Spot on
And I-- when you --- did you ever -- Have you ever had -- did you -- uh, and -- did you ever had a dream that you -- that you -- and -- yeah.
Yes
"I don't know...I don't even read the stuff." Ah, yes. Because it's always good to not know the argument you're debating.
Nowadays, I take it to mean you’re literally watching every video but just say you haven’t because you want to make it look like you don’t care.
No one’s fooled, hunbot…
@@cmbwtheliel I think that’s true for bosslee for example, her straw men she argues against are at least somewhat based on real things people say. This woman though is just spewing nonsense lol
Love how this Hun's "perspective" and "not being mean" is denying, mocking, downplaying, and victim-blaming people's experiences.
I had this happen to me recently. A monat hun i know was trying to deny that Monat products are not the reason other’s hair aren’t healthy… Yada yada and I have NEVER ONCE had the cheapest shampoo give me a rash. Monat gave me a rash on my scalp.. Thanks for downplaying my experience. Gaslighting 100%
@@maelovesdogs p
@@maelovesdogs Literally, They always try putting oil in their hair because it's dry AF after using their products. You are NOT supposed to constantly put heavy oil on your hair (specifically these white women, black women have different texture hair that needs oils to stay luscious) These bitches need a LIGHTWEIGHT MOISTURIZER for they hair like a deep conditioner. That's why they all wear hats, they think "If I make enough money, it doesn't matter what my hair looks like because I can get wigs and expensive hair treatments!"
They will LITERALLY do anything for a sale, they will even buy it FOR you as long as it's in YOUR name.
Edit: Spelling
@@maelovesdogs sorry that happened to you
I’m so tired of seeing MLMs at our makers/crafts/vendors markets. I’m about to start a petition that MLMs shouldn’t be allowed at these events. It’s so annoying and it’s awkward
Omg yes! It’s so freakin annoying. I sometimes sell stuff at art/craft fairs and there’s always a ton of mlm Huns about. Like you didn’t make it and it’s not “your” business so please leave.
Yuppppppp
I can’t imagine how cringe and annoying that would be 🥲
Agreed!! It’s definitely like that it Canton First Monday Trade Days, too. I see young living and abornne the most. All mlms need to be banned from outdoor vendors and markets.
They should be handled the same way it would be if Walmart tried to have a table - not permitted
Even in a "traditional" cult, no one is FORCING anyone to do anything. They're BRAINWASHING them to want and choose to do it.
Does she not grasp that you can feel pressured or even forced to do something without being physically threatened? or is she just ignoring it to fit her narrative
Yes, I think she was missing the whole point
Willful ignorance
THIS COMMENT
This woman is the definition of "Ignorance is bliss."
Listening to her rant about how her boss “can’t make” her put something in alphabetical order felt very adolescent to me. Refusing to do something logical that your supervisor asks you nicely to do just because you don’t want to answer to a boss is teenage drama.
I feel very bad for the person who took on that job after her. Having to sort through all those misfiled folders...
Yea, that made no sense... An alphabetical order makes sense and is like that everywhere... Why would you not do it... She's ridiculous
"I've NEVER been bullied in high school, so idk why you're crying that 'you're being bullied.'" 🙃
Mam, it's almost like.....people have different life experiences.... who freaking knew???????
From what this Hun has said so far she seems like the exact kind of person to tell someone in an abusive relationship, "It's your fault because you don't just leave!"
She'd also say, "What did you do to make him angry enough to treat you like that?"
@@ladyv5655 This Hun: "He's never been mean to _me_ and _I've_ never seen him be mean to you, so you must be lying about the abuse."
OR "He loves you! You need to take it like a woman and be there for your man, you're obviously doing something to piss him off because he's a GOOD PERSON!" 🙄
Amber heard of monat?
Exactly. And because she doesn't see it as being a cult means that it isn't... that everyone else is wrong...
I can guarantee she has been verbally abused many many times but she was made to believe it was ‘tough love’ so in her mind she hasn’t been made to do anything or abused her .
Monat doesn't give her cult vibes.... but she didn't know what the definition of a cult was ??? Oh dear.
I am 4 minutes in, and this girl has not finished a sentence…
LOLL
Not one
We love a run-on sentence with no ending lmao
That's because the entire 40 minute video was one sentence 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
9 minutes in...I'm exhausted and couldn't tell you one thing she's said.
Her boss told her to do something and she was like “I’m not doing it.” That’s a sure fire way to lose a job. She seems like another young woman who doesn’t know much about life yet
When she implied that they’re not going to look through the files and expect them to be in alphabetical order…yes, they are, that’s why they told you to do it that way. I work an office job now, and when I don’t find a name because it’s out of order, it’s a little disorienting. The disrespect is unreal.
If organizing files was part of her job, she needed to organize the files. She seems very immature and self centered, unable to understand that life means doing what helps your organization, family, and community function well. That company is well rid of her.
She's obviously just incredibly entitled and privileged. Someone who does not have that sort of privilege would NEVER question their boss unless it was for something inappropriate or uncomfortable because they need to make money and can't risk losing their job. She doesn't have to listen because she's already got everything she needs in life, this is just extra. She is very likely a trust fund baby, a lot of them act super entitled and are "know-it-all's" without any real-world experience.
Edit: Spelling & grammar
Fr, but like, even a 17 year old working a student job knows better than her. She seems like a cool person overall, but she's ignorant.
I just worked a ten hour shift as a baker at
Panera, which I work full time there. As of an hour and a half ago it’s my birthday.. my
Officially 32.. woo..😑😑. Tomorrow, I’ve got an appt for my daughter, and another ten hour shift.. buuuuut.. I absentmindedly forgot to bake one thing &; tomorrow morning- first thing- I’m going to go in, &; bake the item I forgot to bake. Because it’s my job. It’s not someone else’s to bake something on top of handling the massive amount of shit they already need to handle for the morning rush. Also, because not having that item will lose my cafe out on money. &; that won’t make or break my cafe, obviously. But this isn’t just my livelihood- but all of my co-workers. I’m going to make sure I handle my job so others won’t have to pick up the slack. I’m the only baker at my cafe. No one else should have to do my job. No one is telling me I have to go back in and bake the item I forgot. I’m taking it upon myself to be adult and correct a mistake I made- like an adult. That’s what having accountability is. She’s extremely entitled for refusing to do what she’s getting fucking paid to do😑😑😑
She gives me "well, what were you wearing???" vibes
Does she think that people in cults, think that they are in cults? 🤔
It's so frustrating to listen to someone speak when it's clearly apparent they haven't prepared what they were going to say at all. You can tell that the girl oftentimes began a sentence without knowing how she was going to end it.
This also screams Amber Heard🤣
100%. All the verbal pauses (like, um, uhh, etc) and then not even finishing a sentence.
She is NOT trying to put herself in someone else's shoes. I can't believe she said that. She isn't even trying to understand where we're coming from.
It's the privilege speaking...
The ignorance here is so funny. She just admits multiple times to not understanding the opposite argument and not seeking out any media about it and it trying to argue against it. It's the same mentality as "well that friend didn't do anything wrong to me" when another friend tells you about some horrible shit that was done to them. It's blatant ignorance
When I was in Herbalife one highly traumatic experience that I remember very clearly was during a training: being taken to the grocery store next-door and forced to make contacts with 10 strangers before I could go home. This girl seems to have a great experience with Monet but that is NOT THE NORM. A lot of up-lines REQUIRE proof of work or you are ostracized.
H o l y f u c k I would DIE!!
I had a strange woman approach me in Michael's of all places with a "business opportunity". There was a man standing a few feet away watching us. My first thought was that they were part of a s*x tr*fficking organization. Now I realize it was probably just an MLM. 😂
..... that's literally kidnapping wtf 😳
@@lisajackson9431 Amway power couple 🤣🤣🤣 did she compliment your shoes?
She's fullachit.
She seems proud to be ignorant. Girl, it's ok to learn and change your mind; if your beliefs hold water they'll stand up to scrutiny. But to bury your head in the sand and sing, "lalala, can't hear you" then you have already lost. Life is all about growth, not constantly being right.
Yes! It’s hard to have a productive conversation with someone like this; we have neither the time, patience or crayons to explain reality to someone like her 😂
I LOVE the saying that you used, makes you think!!
I hate how she keeps saying "I've never been screamed at" "I've never been throw out" "my upline has never belittled me" what a weird fucking flex. Imagine saying with pride "my boss has never treated me with aggression". What the heck are your standards??
because obviously anyone with a 9-5 or in the cOrPeRaTe wOrLd gets beaten senseless for being 1 minute late
For the love of god, don’t hurt yourself trying to convince people that you’re not in a cult.
CALL YOUR DAD.
You are in a cult.
And Chelsea!! You debunked every single one of her points with such grace. Thank you for this refreshing video🫶🏻
She was told at a previous job to put certain files in alphabetical order and she refused? My file clerk soul is weeping. Alphabetical order makes finding files/information so much easier. Unless there is a different coding system in place. Ugh. Her files must've be chaos.
Imagine the days she called in sick. Her poor coworkers probably wasted so much time digging through files.
Exactly!!! She and whoever had to help/relieve her must have wasted so much time!
She would not be my employee for long. I’m not a micro-manager. I understand that my way isn’t always the best way. But alphabetical filing systems are the standard for a reason.
same! i cant even imagine. my file folders being neat and organized is one of the biggest parts of my job
We put product in alphabetical order by product type on our shelves. It makes it easier for inventory and for customers to find.
@@keisakura9014 I would bet it makes things faster and more efficient too. These Karens are too privileged to understand the necessity of staying organized. Can't find something? They can just buy a new one!
Homegirl REALLY should be reading from a script because this off-the-cuff thing is not working for her. She is coming across as very unintelligent; using words that don't even exist (pressur-y) and incorrect phrases "in my perspective"... Yikes.
How old is she? Because she talks like a middle schooler and looks like the third Girl Defined sister
@@maxgarcia1454 oh my lord you’re right! Girl defined vibes 💀
She gives me hard core "light are on but no ones home" vibes.
@@maxgarcia1454 That's because her cognitive ability is still stuck at the level of a middle school child. When all your needs are met and an early age, you don't need to continue learning and maturing because your brain thinks "I have everything I will ever need!" bottom line, her privilege stunted her cognitive function.
Does anyone remember her IG?
I’m sorry she didn’t want to file alphabetically, pure chaos
LOL
Only 4 minutes in and she’s said so many words without actually saying anything at all. Astounding.
she acts like the only people who call it a cult are people who left monat and not literal cult psychologists who are saying it
I use $3.99 Trader Joe’s shampoo and I’m just aghast at the behaviors of the shampoo cult ladies. Every time. She starts the gaslighting. “I have never experienced ______” and her eyes get big which tells me she’s lying.
Just because someone is nice to you does not mean that they are nice to everyone.
She thinks that people just call it a cult because they simply don’t like the company or had a bad experience. She is obviously just uninformed on the fact that there are literal outlines on what categorizes an organization as a cult. We don’t just go around calling everything we don’t like a cult 😂
Dude literally!! BITE model who???
it's so bizarre to me and really sad how so many of these reps wholeheartedly try to argue something and firstly not even read/watch what they are trying to refute.... then proceed to use really condescending, gaslighting, and patronizing language....
and it'll ALWAYS baffle me how any of them think behavior like this would be appealing to ANYONE on the fence about joining them or any other MLM
Oh my god this girl is still with Monat. She’s the girl who made a product post on the day of the Breonna Taylor trial. She also was “embarrassed” for us antiMLMers. Glad to see she’s still brainwashed 🥴
Was the post about the trial or referencing it? I’m definitely anti MLM but like not everyone knows about every trial going on lol
@@erinkerr6965 the post said, and I quote: “good morning. It’s a beautiful day to arrest the officers who killed breonna Taylor. Also the grab bag sale is going on. That is all.”
@@erinkerr6965 she basically made a Justice for Breonna Taylor post, and advertised a flash sale in the caption....
It sounds like she's been subtly told to recruit, but she's so oblivious it just goes right over her head
She straight up at the beginning acknowledged that she starting to feel the pressure.
I can hear the gears in her brain grinding to a halt every time she tries to make a point
Girl it’s okay I do it too but maybe prepare 😂
ESPECIALLY before making AND POSTING a video! 😂 lmaoooo
I think there are many people that don't actually understand what cults are, how they manipulate people, and the various tactics used. I was talking to a friend the other day and she had never heard the term "gaslighting" before. It was eye opening that there could be many people out there like her that are completely uninformed. This is why I'm so so glad for channels like this that shed so much light on the topic. Chelsea, you are so BANG ON with cult & manipulation info. Your extensive research is clearly evident!
thank you love! I appreciate that
“I don’t know what a cult is…..”
"U took the bait" one of most honest things I've heard one of these girls say!!
✌💜
Okay, this is just my personal opinion, but I dislike her trying to act "nice" while insulting and belittling people vs just being honest and openly mean. It makes her seem even more disingenuous and condescending and ultimately even meaner, like you're either too stupid to realize how she's treating you or too scared to call her out on it.
thats a form of manipulation as well.
You read my mind! This is exactly how I saw it too!
Latina friend here… 👋🏼 Picante is more like a salsa in most translations…. The words I’d choose would be “quedate” for stay and picosa/picoso for spicy 🌶 I’m not a pro or anything but I grew up speaking Spanish and still moderately fluent… I went the opposite direction as you and married a white man haha. Just my suggestion. Thanks for the great content as always!!!
Her; “I had no idea”
You still don’t, girl. 🙄
If a) you took it personally and it wasn't about you, b) are defending it this hard without having all the information (information control, much?) and c) are victim blaming...you're likely in a cult or cult-like atmosphere.
Rep: Okay I've been wanting to talk about this for a while
Also rep: Has absolutely no talking points planned
Yikes. This was…something. Perfect example of someone being in a cult and proving WHY they’re in a cult. She was an easy target for them, that much is obvious.
Edit to add: ma’am- your upline is NOT your friend. The moment you quit, you are cut off!
I’d imagine her upline was being passive aggressive when she mentioned she didn’t see her posting about the business because that’s what they do to manipulate people to post more. JFC.
Do they not see how sad it is that they have to make these videos in the first place? If it's such a great business with a great community, this wouldn't be needed.
Agreed! This! ⬆️
Also, what other company hires anyone and everyone? Literally nothing besides a scam 🚩
I love how she spends all this time trying to tell us it's not a cult, then finishes the video by stating that she can now hang out with her friend because she has joined the business. 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Someone in a cult…. Telling us they’re not in a cult. Groundbreaking 😂😂
Just because no one is “forcing you” doesn’t mean they have no influence and aren’t actively trying to convince you…
Chelsea at the beginning of the video: I'm not going to do makeup today
Chelsea at the end of the video: 👁👄👁
im the worst
It's part of your charm
I hate the “how?!” With no attempt or desire to find the answer. She openly admits to not looking into or researching what she’s talking about, and then yells about how she doesn’t understand. No duh.
The thing about "you're gonna buy the product anyway" doesn't work for me. Could you imagine interviewing and Nike and getting that? "We think you'll be a great fit here, we just need you to buy between 200-400$ of sneakers first!" Oh and you're gonna need to get a pair or two each month to stay active here... you need shoes anyway right? Lol
This!!!!!!!
This woman is doing herself no favors.. It's tough to keep the "mean girl" vibe under wraps, I see...
She must’ve been a great employee. If my boss asked me to do something simple like put files alphabetically I would’ve done it. It’s very strange to actively go against your boss just bc you don’t feel like listening to them.
Why did she spend 45 minutes talking about how she doesn’t understand why people think its a cult when she could have spent her 45 minutes actually listening to videos that answer that exact question. smh
If she hasn’t been to a lot of conventions or meetings, then how does she know it’s not a cult?
She needs to look up privilege and ignorance next. 😵💫
I was thinking this same thing. She seems like one of those girls that has a credit card that parents pay for, and doesnt realize whats really happening.
Someone doesn’t need to straight out “threaten” you or “be mean” for their behaviour to be abusive or manipulative. A big piece that she’s missing lol.
It seems like she has lack of life experience idk
Wow just wow she read that definition and you could legit see the penny dropping with her
This may as well be her in her bathroom mirror every morning- convincing herself to give it one more day…
😭😭😭 Chelsea!!!!! I'm fresh off a mental breakdown while cleaning my kitchen, and my heart was so happy to see this new upload. Thank you!
I’m so happy you’re doing better girl! Clean the house get that new energy. Go for a walk tomorrow. Take a bath. YOU GOT THIS. New podcast episode out Wednesday and a new video too 🤍🤍
I love how you say what we’re all thinking. Never change! 😊
Found your channel through Hannah's, glad to have more of this content to keep my brain happy during work hours.
How did u know I was refreshing for new content 💅
It couldn’t have come at a better time. Literally sat down with my lunch like “3 mins ago”
Same!!!!!!! Your skin is absolutely beautiful Chelsea!!!!( I just had to say it!!!!!!)
I love that you started this video saying you weren’t going to put on makeup because you were going to the gym and ended the video with an almost full beat. 😂
If people are “playing” the victim, you’d think the pool of people “playing” wouldn’t be so large. They aren’t playing, they are victims.
*looks up definition of cult*
*Monat logo pops up*
She didn’t think any of this through, did she?
Monat Hun: I thought about writing down my thoughts and being prepared with a coherent argument but I decided word vomiting would be more persuasive.
Me: Incorrect!
I was in a religious cult years ago... they would often say "that's on you" just like this girl is saying. Gassssssslightinnnnnnnng.
A person at your job tells you to file alphabetically and “she can’t make you.” True…but then you get fired if you don’t. So what’s her point? I’m so confused.
When she gave the first definition of a cult I immediately typed in common possible misspellings...oh dear, hun. At least she ended up learning something new, though! If she has so little info regarding what a cult is that she didn't think what came up seemed off...then she may be beyond help at the moment. She should look up "coercive control" next! 🤦🏼♀️
She's so articulate! For example " I want to talk about...I don't know "!? Or, my favorite, "blah, blah, blah. You know"!
wait, she really did just look at the real definition and immediately fumble over her words then say she is ending the live. She 100% realized its what she is in but is so brainwashed that she wont admit it.
I honestly don’t think she even knows what she’s on about 🤣🤣
That Hun is like, "I see people all the time saying murder is wrong, blah blah, but let me tell you _my_ perspective." Yeeeeah scamming people isn't a matter of perspective, Hun, let's see you try that next time you're in court for a traffic ticket.
My company paid for me to go to Ireland for 2 months for training. I paid nothing for that trip except for extra things that I did like gifts and museums. These girls need to learn that with most companies you don’t earn work trips, work trips are just a part of certain jobs
4 years in and only MMB that’s why she doesn’t feel the pressure. Her upline knows that she’s never going to go beyond that so why bother? I just got out and my heart breaks for her because she’s so incredibly brainwashed. She’s going to look back one day and be so embarrassed by everything she said in that video
This girl is just extremely young. Until she gets out of the same town (she reminds me so much of those back home and even myself at 18-20). I finally snapped out of realizing my perspective is not correct, nobodies is. It’s everyone separate perspectives and experiences.
People always say to put yourself in someone’s shoes, yet we can do that and still walk in their shoes how WE would, not them. Just because you think you’re strong willed and not brain washed does not mean others have the same mental well being, or state to take things the same way and not be manipulated
"It's not a cult, why would anyone think that?? So crazzyyyyyy"
*reads definition of cult*
"Oh. I guess I get that... but I still don't think it's a cult."
lol
If I took a shoot every time the Hun said "Like" I would have needed medical intervention.
Watches as this rep accidently becomes a cult apologist for 45 minutes.
Hi Chelsea, I was driving and listening to one of your videos today and I got to wondering-when these MLM members say they are "working" in bed, or "working" by the pool...what exactly is this work?? Are they literally messaging people on Instagram & Facebook for 8 hours straight, is this their work? Sorry if it's been covered in past videos, but I still do not 100% what their "work" is. Are they making spreadsheets, running business automation, are they on Zoom meetings? What do they actually do when they say "been working since 6 a.m.!!!"?
Can I just say I absolutely love your well wishes today. Miss Chelsea wants me to get a nap in, touch the grass and stay grounded, have nice weather, and great snacks. Describing such a lovely day! Lol ❤you
“I’ve never been shouted at, belittled…”. WOW. High Bar there.
Chelsea: acknowledging reality and saying that one day she will not be on UA-cam
Me : shocked and hurt
LOL the goal is to have my own show or just do the podcast eventually. I'll always be on IG though.
Anytime she says “in my head” she’s basically giving away how brainwashed she is.
Love how you call them out. I got out of NWM 2 years ago. Don't get me wrong I made some mates for life but the cult side messed me up and took me back years worth of mental health wise. And when you do leave most of the teams just bully you. These people are not your mates (most of them)(rare to find the ones I did) they want you for your money and as soon as you stop they show who they are.
I'm going with she is playing dumb and the whole scattered thing is part of the act -- all these accusations about the company are absurd I can't even wrap my head around them, using "confusion" as a cover for having to make coherent counter arguments .And that this is the company's new damage control tactic and there will be lots more videos like this coming out from those who didn't join the exodus.
Holy crap that was a lot of words for her to say she doesn’t know what cults are or how feelings work.
She’s like, “who made you feel that way?” or “who told you to feel that way?“. No sis, people who are not in cults feel feelings based on their actual experiences, not based on what someone else told them to feel.
Her commentary about “disgruntled” network marketing independent consultants lacks empathy.
Yikes. So, something has to happen to her to actually exist?
I stg if this girl doesn't finish a whole THOUGHT.
It’s almost painful to watch. They keep saying they don’t know much about cults, or understand why people object to this business format - yeah, that much is clear! The lack of understanding and research is painfully naive. No matter what you believe in, job, morals, religion, politics - It is always beneficial to criticise and reevaluate often. Life is full of grey areas.
It is hard to watch someone argue a point when they do not know what they’re arguing about.
😳 I can understand why you chose to discuss this!
This screams - “oh she’s never been mean to me so I don’t have anything bad against her” when the person is literally so toxic and hurtful to everyone around you.
Yeah,she should have been prepared. She is not helping her case at all. And it's not making her look,ummm, informed.
That ad was very good-it was sincere and compelling. I’m actually gonna sub
tony and I are really committed lol we are doing our lessons every day
The way she's talking like her timber and sound of her breathing sounds to me that doing this despite her personal desire to do so. Like her way of speaking right then makes me think of how I talk when I have an anxiety attack during public speaking.