Your videos are among the highest quality and most intelligent on ammo to be found on UA-cam. Thank you, you’ve helped me a lot and I hope you keep it up. I would like to see you speak about the way that bullet and cartridge power translate into effects on game of various sizes.
Really good info! When I was a young man, I lost a alot of money to a friend over a bullet size out of the 22 250. I always shot 52s& 55 grains, he talked me into trying a 63 simi round, ridiculous right! Well shooting hogs at " 600" yards it worked, it slowed down, but it was like hitting them with a sledgehammer, moving them 2' from the mound.
Nice Nice Nice ! Your breakdowns have helped put a .17 Hornet and a .204 Ruger in my Safe !.....my old 22-250 is getting a little dusty now a days... Thanks for the info you provide ! Great Site!
In an ideal world .204 would have come along 100 years ago and we'd not need to talk about this. 204 will kill anything you'd shoot a 22-250 at, it'll drop and drift less, with a lighter bullet, and a smaller powder charge.
Thank you Francis Doran for taking the time to write. If you start to weigh in on some of our other productions, you will soon find a very welcoming group of viewers...
It is interesting to know how much the rounds kick. I didn't know these measurements but I do know that kick of the 22-250 is undetectable. It feels like shooting a .22 rifle, that is to say the kick of the 22-250 is so negligible you can't feel it. Are some people claiming they can't use this caliber because it hurts their shoulder too much? And if anyone can't shoot the 22-250 because it hurts them too much maybe they should stay home and take up an indoor activity. LOL
I choose the 22-250 all day long Most of my shots will be under 200-300 yds . Rarely or more accurately never do i take a shot at 500 but once or twice in my 66 years I’ve taken shots at 400 yds
Thank you Jason Curtis for your compliments. Here is a link to a short vid that shows beloved 204 in action. Hope you enjoy and share with your friends. ua-cam.com/video/jIYtYNBybl4/v-deo.html
The 204 is a awesome round. The 32 grain round is a nasty sob. Killed many woodchucks with the one I had. Unfortunately it was stolen. My last room mate had a 22-250 and I had my 204. We lived together for 4 years and he always grabbed my 204 over his 22-250 for hunting varmints. I shot the 32 grain rounds and they were explosive on whatever it hit out to 800 yards. That was my longest shot on a woodchuck. Had to get out the range finder to verify that shot as I was proud of it. I can also say first hand that the wind doesn't effect the 32 grain round as much as you would think.
Another thing is if you decide to get a 204 I would go with a stainless steel barrel. The blued bull barrel on my savage was shot. Had over 5000 rounds on mine. First 3 shots would be on target and after that they were all over the place. The only reason I was so mad when it was stolen was because of the scope I had on it.
Well done; well presented and you DID NOT SAY, "You have to do it my way or you are wrong". This is what you did, take a look, if you find it informative, good; if not, go your own way.. Thank you.
Thank you so much. I was gonna get .223 but I am not sure now. I was comparing the same bullets 22-250, 223, & 204 Ruger as I want to get a rifle for target shooting and maybe coyotes hunting for up to 500 yards. Price per bullet is also key as I would like to go for target shooting. So the cheapest bullets are: .223 was $0.70, 22-250 $1.57, and .204 Ruger at $1.70. What concerned me was that .204 Ruger only had one supplier while .223 and 22-250 had so many options. So, while .223 has the cheapest rounds, .204 Ruger has no options at all. It seems 22-250 is the best option here. maybe I can reload my own cartridges... oh, man..
.204 is great for coyote or smaller. Factory ammo is limited and costs the same as 22-250. It’s better at doing what the .223 does but at a much higher cost. If your only to own one varmint rifle that could double for deer the 22-250 and .223 can play multiple roles with proper bullet selection. If I see a yote at 400 plus I don’t want to doubt the energy, so personally 22-250 fills those roles all in one package.
Great Review. This really is an eye opener. it would have been interesting to see how the 53 gr V-max in .224 BC .290 traveling at roughly 3800 fps stacks up against the .204 40 gr V max. Either way both great cartridges.
Thank you Nowell Greasley for your compliments and for sharing your thoughts. Believe me when I tell you that you and I think alike about the .224 caliber 53 grain. I will be uploading several more comparison & shooting videos in the next few days that feature the 204, .223, & 22-250. Please stay tuned... 👍
.204 is to limited on bullet weight and type for me. 22-250 all the way especially if you are going to handload at all. Huge selection bullets from 35-95 gr. for target,varmint,hunting,and anything else you want to do. thanks for the vid!!!
The .204 in 40gr dominates 22-250 in 40gr. Less recoil, less noise, less powder, far less heat and throat erosion, better barrel life. Huge list. If the .204 does not cut it the next move is a .243. Also .204 ammo is cheap now, no reloading needed. The .223 does beat it in ammo cost. 22-250 is good in fast twist and heavier bullets but then so is the .243
The ONLY problem with .22-250 is manufacturers set twist rate to stabilize the 55 and lighter bullets. The one-fourteen or one-twelve twists just will not stabilize a 70 grain and heavier bullet. But I have to agree with you on the limitations of the .204 Ruger. The .204 Ruger is probably a better deal for those who do not reload ammunition and have range and noise limitations.
If 204 was as cheap as 223 I’d take the 204. Otherwise I’ll take the 223 simply because I can afford to shoot it a lot more and ammo is widely available
I was hoping to see more 22-250 bullet variety idk what 55 gr bullet the 223 and 22-250 were using but that BC seems a lil low compared to like a 55 gr Viacom or Nosler with .279ish and with comparing the 32gr ruger 204 saying it’s the fastest..... it is... but there’s 40,and 45gr .22-250 loads pushing over 4,000 FPS. Just saying.
Exactly, but how are you going to claim the 204 is the best if you were to show that, haha. The fact is the 22-250 is a much more well rounded caliber than the 204 in this space. The only drawback is felt recoil, but it is not really an issue at this size. A 22-250 firing 40-45 gr is still going to put out great energy and less felt recoil than the 55gr with all the speed of the 204. Yet you can move up to a 55 grain with higher BC's to hold its speed better. The advantages for the 204 are lower recoil, low powder quantity(lower reloading cost), adequate varmint power.
Brandon Richardson watch the rest of the video. He also compares the 40gr and 50gr In 22-250 and .204. Another advantage of the .204 is it’s quieter. In Alberta we cannot use suppressors so quieter when yote hunting is another advantage.
.204 Ruger with a 32gr bullet or 34gr explodes squirrels drops coyote, bobcat, fox, like rocks. I see the hits no recoil. It is a killer round. They are all great rounds. Witnessing my hits matters to me.
Robert Dancho no disrespect to you or the 22-250 but the .220 swift has been king since 1935. Here's to praying the swift making a come back. Again lol.
Has anyone done a sound / decibel reading of these three cartridges. I would be interested as Aust won't allow moderators......or are they all bloody loud.
22-250 hands down. You'd have to buy a gun and build it around 75gr +or_ gr or better yet the 95'ers. Do that and it's not even a remotely close comparison, more comparison to 22-250 and 243 then the 204 and 223.
While the .204 Ruger is very interesting, the .22-250 is well established. I already own one rifle chambered in an obsolete cartridge (.350 Remington Mag). Long term availability of ammunition should be a consideration.
I, myself, wouldn't buy a 22 wssm, a 223 valkyrie, a 22 Nosler, or even another 220 Swift or 222. But the .204 Ruger has been around 15+ years and is still very popular.
I think this is all very informative and fascinating stuff. As in all things though you have to account for many variables such as barrel weight/length/twist before optimising your caliber to your rifle and intended quarry and make allowance for distance windage etc. At that stage you really need to say each caliber has its merits and demerits. All have a place and no one caliber is a silver bullet. Hauling a heavy bull barrel rifle up and down in rolling open country can get really old really quick unless your very fit. I may love the power of my 660 magnum chainsaw but its a tree dropper more than a fire wood cutter and man that beast gets heavy after half an hour let alone a day in the bush. Far better to use this info to help you decide what works best for your kind of hunting.
G'day, You have missed several things that should be considered Time of flight. Bullet trajectory. (Drop) Wind drift, Ammo availability. Reloading consumables/amount of choices/options. Barrel life. Cost per shot. Types/styles of firearms available. Having said that It was still an informative vidio. Thank you.
Thank you Happy Camper for your compliments. Here are some links to the follow-up vids you may find helpful. ua-cam.com/video/YkY1k9vSskU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/jIYtYNBybl4/v-deo.html
I was mainly trying to use the cartridges that are the most readily available in all 3 calibers. More vids on this topic to follow. Thanks in advance for staying tuned.
I've found that the 220 Swift is a more accurate cartridge than the 22-250 for reasons I can't explain. So I've always picked the Swift for a high power 22 caliber. Moreover, why would someone buy a 22-250, when the 243 Winchester or 6 MM Remington use almost the same amount of powder, but have more energy, bullet selection and versatility? So the decision comes down to the 204 or the 223. The 223 Rem has a huge advantage in versatility, availability and ammo selection over the 204 Ruger. Nevertheless, damn the logic, the 204 is such a cute round, I'd go with it anyway despite having owned a couple of 223s
Will Branson 6mm is hard to find, like a 220 Swift. And 22-250 has taken off in popularity among varmint hunters. I wanted one long before it became so popular
I would like to see the wind deflection changes on all the rounds. But i think for hunting i would go with 22-250 50 grn. How ever ethically i would not shoot at anything whitetail deer sized past 300 yards with any of these rounds. Coyotes, crows any thing else except turkey i would. Well maby turkey too.
Awesome awesome video my daughter wants to start coyote hunting with me and I was looking for something less violent then the 22 250 so Ruger 204 it is thank you for such an in-depth I opening review because I had no idea that little bullet was that fast. I do have a question though will these immense foot-pounds of energy on target yield fur destroying results she would like to mount one. And I don't feel like taking a mop and a bucket to the hunting blind foot pounds is the energy put on the animal how much force correct?
Thank you Sean Kinter for your kind words and for subscribing. Ft lbs is indeed the measure of energy that a bullet possesses and is used to describe how hard a particular bullet will impact the target. ua-cam.com/video/6QINvtbu2vU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/DmyYXC9Kt1I/v-deo.html I pasted a couple of links to some more calibers worth considering if you are looking for a more fur friendly cartridge. 👍
Having looked at the reloading manuals the 22/250 will fire the 53 v max at circa 3800 so faster and better bc at .290 than .204 39g bullet. I am just waiting for a Barbara 22/250 HMR with a 1 in 9 twist. That will shoot 75g vld at 3500 with a bc of 460, now that will blow the others away for hit percentage as the range gets longer
22 250 is king and kills deer other two kill deer as well 223 better ammo supply cheaper and can be a ranch shtf gun crossover 204 rugers ny loophole round
where did you get that .22-250 load? Golden standard is the 50rd white box of Winchester 55gr JHP at ~4100 fps. not saying that would have changed anything just looks odd to me.
Interesting but not the best way to compare the performance. Real meat, skin and bone is the true measure of performance. In that regard there is only one cartridge that wins. And that is the .204 Ruger loaded with the Speer 39gn hollow point projectile. I made the choice to test .204/.223/22.250 using the meat/skin/bone method at 200yds. It was a windy day and to be honest I thought the 22.250 would win hands down. I used Hornady 40gn V-max in the 22.250 at 4,250fps, same pill in the .223 at 3,775 fps and the .204 had the 39gn Speer at 3,900fps. The larger diameter projectiles were more affected by the wind, but the terminal damage of the .22 calibre projectiles was much less than that of the .20, while paper figures give us the theoretical performance they do not give us the in field real performance. One thing is certain though, I would not like to be hit by any of these pills, and wild dogs sure as heck cannot tell the difference when their engine room is exploded by one of them.
One of the best Coyote Hunters I've ever known decided to get a Remington AR in .204. He used it one season and went back to his 22-250. Didn't hold up in the wind good enough and didn't deliver sufficient energy upon impact at ranges beyond around 300 yards (too many yotes ran off after being hit. He was using Vmax bullets.). .223 is great out to 300 yards or so then gets real squirrelly in the wind. 22-250 all the way. You can even get barrels in proper twists to stabilize bullets up to about 95 grs for shooting targets out to 1000 yards or larger game. Numbers look great but then real world situations intervene. fwiw
So I'm a 204 lover! My gun loves the 32grain hornaday superformance tighter groups dropped my doe this year with it! Great video!! But I see that the hornaday superformance now makes a 35grain 22-250 advertised at 4450 velocity!! Not sure of the b.c. you should plug this into your calculater see what it looks like?? Maybe a follow up video
Thank you Kyle Van Zee for your enthusiasm and compliments. Without actually plugging it into a bc calculator yet my guesstimate is that it will have a b.c. of about .165 Any other guesstimates are encouraged to apply. Here is a link to a vid of your favored .204 in action. ua-cam.com/video/jIYtYNBybl4/v-deo.html
if you hit a Wallaby at 200 yards with a .223 55 grain it will run 50 to 70 yards . hit it with a 80 grain .243 it drops. its the shock power that nooks them down . a red stag shoot at 300 yards with a .30 06 150 grain heart shot will run 200 yards but a .300RUM SAME 150 GRAIN BULLET will nook it down..it comes down to case capacity=bigger case,= more powder =heaver bullet = MORE STOP //WHEN selecting a rifle if the shop owner dont ask you what you want to shoot & what range ,you are in the wrong shop //
If you had used a 40 grain 22-250 V-Max, things would have been far more equal and the 22-250 would have been North of 4400 FPS. Just a thought. I like your video and will look for more. Keep up the good work. Jeff IFA Tactical
Thank you sherm dog for your compliments. Much appreciated. The 220 swift is a broad question... Is there a certain characteristic that you would like to know about it?
outdoor adventures just looking for a caliber with more down range energy specially for antelope. But yet low recoil. My 270 I feel is a bit much on my any more.
outdoor adventures there not heavy. My nephew uses a 22-250 and the tissue damage is crazy. 204 is also very fast and light so I was thinking the 220 would be perfect. Fast with a little heavier bullet to buck the wind better or if that even matters with the 204. I shoot no further than 400 yards.
Sherm dog. As you probably are aware, the 220 swift is very close to the 22-250 remington in terms of speed and available bullet weights. This video link may help. ua-cam.com/video/YkY1k9vSskU/v-deo.html
What we have to keep in mind between the 22-250 and the 223 Remington is that the twist rate of 223 Remington weapons tends to be higher, thus heavier bullets more appropriate for bigger things can be used. I will admit, though, that shot placement with the 22-250 and its typical bullet weights outweighs anything you can do with the 223 Remington. For varmints and yotes, I think the 204 Ruger won't leave anything to desire.
I think a better comparison would have been measuring apples to apples. For example, getting the 223 and 22-250 cartridges in 40 gr as well. You would have seen the apparent advantages of the 204 start shrinking to insignificance I think.
Thank you Jon Bumcrot for sharing this info. I should certainly hope that you do not feel any recoil in that rifle. Those are very sturdy, well made, and heavy. How much does yours weigh? 🤔
Because there isn't any. Measured recoil is useless I've noticed. Chairgunners compare measured recoil but it literally has no useful value. I had a 270 Remington 770 that I would consider as having no recoil whatsoever. If that gun affects your shooting fundamentals then you'd be a complete and total sissy. Sure a 12 guage or a savage axis in 308 is a pain in the butt on the shoulder and ears but to compare recoil on anything less then a 270win is splitting hairs ...
Talk to varmint hunters. Most say that they can see their shots in the scope on high mag with a 17wsm or 204 rugar but can't see them when using a 22-250. Takes part of the fun out of the shoot so yes that little big is enough to throw the scope view off. We are not talking about should pain here just ability to keep a high mag vamint scope on target to see the shot hit. To some this is a huge issue.
Parent cartridge for 22-250, it "looks' like a .308 brass necked down to .223, and .204, parent case the .223 brass? My Sierra bullet chart show 26 bullets, ranging from 40 grs. to 90 grs. so, I think that those two calibers,if you are a reloader, would be possibly the most useful, from sqib/low power loads using the 40 grain bullet to the 90grain loaded 5 grs.DOWN from the "book" Max Load for the larger game. Let us not leave out the cast lead bullet w/ gascheck. I am a fan of the Bolt Action Rifle and I have, in the past, cast and reloaded my ammo. At that time I was shooting a .357 and a .45LC, both Rugers. Under 50 yards both have taken deer sized game. Rugers Bolt action rifle in .357mag is a rifle I really want to add to the gun vault.
You can't compare a 40 grain .204 to a 55 grain .22-250. You should use a 45 grain in the .22-250 and then compare them. Or a 55 grain in the .204, other wise it's apples and oranges. Bullet weight must be close or the same for an equal comparison. I see that you did that at 14:00 into the video.
Boooooo..... lmao!!! As an ardent 22-250 shooter, I gotta get me one of those 204s, lmao!! Over the years I've always zero'd my 250 at 275yds which gives me a "fur kill" from 50 - 300yds without scope adjustment. A friend shoots a Tikka 204 and he has a hell of a time with his brass, 3 reloads from brand new brass and 2 reloads from commercial ammo - cases will only last 3 firings, and he isn't hot loading, his rifle shoots sub MoA at about middle of suggested loads. I am getting 6 reloads with my 250, and to achieve sub MoA accuracy I load close to the max load area. That, imho, is the 204 downfall - case life. Not much of an excuse, lol. Only got 2 calibres in my safe, 22 & 45, maybe it is time to expand. Cheers from downunder mate, great video, thanks for posting :)
Thank you Pilot McBride for taking the time to comment and share some really good info. I meant to reply sooner but got swamped with life and posting more 22-250, 223, & 204 ruger vids. I believe you are about 16 hours ahead in your time zone there. Hope you will have a great morning there. 👍
Dead right mate. Been up since 5am, enjoying life. Out to the range today, get some shots in before the heat settles in. Looking at another 100deg day today. Look forward to view all your vids and catching up. Cheers
Greetings Pilot McBride. I do not envy your heat situation there at all. Believe it or not, I have uploaded 5 vids since your initial comment. I am including a link to a playlist of recent vids that would be 223, 204 ruger, 22-250. I think there is even a vid on the 17 rem fireball and 17 remington. Please let me know what you think of those calibers as well. ua-cam.com/video/jIYtYNBybl4/v-deo.html Thanks.
Thank you my friend I will certainly watch them tonight. Revving up the grandkids to take them to school then the range, lol. Ya just have to love shooting. Doing a load workup today using the Sierra GameKings in the 250. Over here we can access budget packs which are marked "Super Roos". Brings the cost down by half. Half you say? Yes, we pay, on average almost double the price you guys pay, average for Sierra GKs 55gn is about $50 Aust, $0.50 per pill, but the Super Roos are about $0.26 per pill, pretty much half price. I also reload for my son who shoots a 223, and his rifle loves them. My 250? Well sorting out the powders, shoots well, but I want more, 0.8 MoA isn't good enough out of my tikka, lol. Can get 0.3 using Hornady, but stone the bloody crows they hit my wallet hard. Once I start, can't stop so range day can be very expensive leaving a hole in my pest eradication as well as my wallet, lmao!!! Thanks my friend, I'll look at those vids as soon as I get a chance. Cheers from downunder :)
That is a great question thelocustemperor. Which of the 6mm cartridges are you referring to? There is the .243 Winchester, the 6mm remington, and even a new 6mm creedmoore...
but not enough lead flying to be accurate out past 200 yards, but explosive on varmints inside it. That light weight doesn't have much mass to buck wind, flies.
Would be interested to see the numbers for noslers 53gr varmageddon or dogtown cartridges in .223 compared to these! 3350 velocity with The Unusually high BC of .303. 1/2moa capable at 500yrds in my howa 1500 varminter with 24in barral belive it or not. No photos to prove it though haha. About 42in of drop at 500 give or take
I just wish we would not let the wonderful . 220 swift die. Makes me sad. First and still the best when loaded correctly. Load it down to .222 rem speeds all day shooting or all the way up to blistering speeds that are faster then the 22-250 with any weight bullet. Up to 200+fps faster. And is extremely accurate as well.
Why did you not use a 53g v max .224 bullet, these are .290 bc., also no-one I have ever heard about managed to get those .204 velocities even with 26 inch barrels.
Thank you S B for taking the time to share your thoughts. In regard to the 53 grain .224 bullet not being included, were you referring to it not being part of the spreadsheet comparison or part of the ballistic testing? Thanks
Both, the reasons .20 calibers seem to outperform .22 are supposed velocity and bc . I have never heard of anyone getting the manufacturers claimed velocities for .204 ruger even with long barrels and the bc of 53g v max is better then 39g 20 cal. So on both counts the 22/250 with a 53g v max would surpass the 39g 20 cal. The only area where the 20 cal is better is less recoil and a bit less noise as far as I can see. If 50 or 55 g 20 cal bullets were made and a faster twist barrel the 20 may gain the upper hand.
I do agree that on many occasions the stated velocities of the manufacturer do not match up with the actual velocities showing up on a chronograph. I do however think that this is tends to be true across the board and extends to the other calibers as well. As far as not using the higher bc 53 grain for the vid, I have not yet seen a manufacturer producing a 22-250 in the 53 grain, so I decided to keep it apples to apples on the .224 calibers. I fully intend to make another vid that will actually chronograph these rounds and will be using some different ammo for the testing besides v-max as well. The 53 grain is definitely on the shopping list.
I will be interested to see the next video on the 53 grain .22 bullet. With regard to manufacturers overstating velocity , All the tests I have read on the .204 ruger have shown 32g velocity as about 3900 and 39g bulets at around 3650. A long way from the quoted 4000 and 4200. My point is that a 53 or 55g Hornady v max with shoot from 22/250 's at 3700 ish. This is pretty much the stated figures from the manufacturers so no other cartridge I can think of cannot be home loaded to anywhere near the stated figures like a .204 Ruger can.The 22/250 with a heavier bullet with a better bc travelling at about the same speed as a .204 39g. I do not own a 22/250 yet but may buy one in the future. I currently shoot .308 and .17 Rem
I think you can get a higher b.c. on 223 or 556 with a 62 gr bullet that’s what I’m using now I don’t see the point in going with those other cals unless ammo becomes scarce or the atf messes everything up in the next 4 years which could happen 😤
.223 is the way to go. Way cheaper than 22-250 and more available than .204. If .223 can kill a man at 600 yards then you can kill varmits and deer at a great distance.
You can shoot 40gr in 22-250 . I think itd be closer. Heck you can get a screaming fast 38gr. If you like high velocity rounds I feel like why use 55gr ? Just get a 223 ..
Brian Mcdonald same here. Recoil with varmint rifles can be an issue, but it’s not “felt” recoil. It can be an issue when it’s enough in a lighter gun that the scope has enough movement after the shot that you can’t see your hits through the scope. It’s especially an issue when prairie dog hunting, seeing your hits is half the fun. But as far as actual felt recoil with a 22 caliber rifle....
I like them all, I just know that my old savage 22-250 with 40gr vmax was insanely accurate and that little bullet was a grenade on anything
.243 in 55 grain that you can dual purpose as a deer rifle with 80-100 grain
Thank you for putting this together. Very helpful.
Thank you Todd Bart for your kind words. Much appreciated. 🙂👍
Your videos are among the highest quality and most intelligent on ammo to be found on UA-cam. Thank you, you’ve helped me a lot and I hope you keep it up. I would like to see you speak about the way that bullet and cartridge power translate into effects on game of various sizes.
Great review. Good information to know. I have all three calibers plus a .220 Swift. Thank you again.
Really good info! When I was a young man, I lost a alot of money to a friend over a bullet size out of the 22 250. I always shot 52s& 55 grains, he talked me into trying a 63 simi round, ridiculous right! Well shooting hogs at " 600" yards it worked, it slowed down, but it was like hitting them with a sledgehammer, moving them 2' from the mound.
I love the 22-250 with 1:8 twist. 77 grain lrx
That was very elucidating, thanks for taking the time to put this together.
Great info, funny that I was 95% going to buy that exact cal and rifle before I watched, now it’s 100%. Thanks.
22-250 is a real mover, and a very accurate tack driver.
Nice Nice Nice ! Your breakdowns have helped put a .17 Hornet and a .204 Ruger in my Safe !.....my old 22-250 is getting a little dusty now a days... Thanks for the info you provide ! Great Site!
Thank you bubbaonpc for your compliments and enthusiasm. Hopefully the best is yet to come.
In an ideal world .204 would have come along 100 years ago and we'd not need to talk about this. 204 will kill anything you'd shoot a 22-250 at, it'll drop and drift less, with a lighter bullet, and a smaller powder charge.
Thanks! Excellent ballistic analysis!
Yes! Great info! I am a BIG fan of the .204 & the .22-250, they're my favorite calibers.
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Frist time seeing you. Really nice show ,you have a new sub.
Thank you Francis Doran for taking the time to write. If you start to weigh in on some of our other productions, you will soon find a very welcoming group of viewers...
It is interesting to know how much the rounds kick. I didn't know these measurements but I do know that kick of the 22-250 is undetectable. It feels like shooting a .22 rifle, that is to say the kick of the 22-250 is so negligible you can't feel it. Are some people claiming they can't use this caliber because it hurts their shoulder too much? And if anyone can't shoot the 22-250 because it hurts them too much maybe they should stay home and take up an indoor activity. LOL
It has more to do with watching your impact through optics. Typically with the 250 your scope jumps a bit
I choose the 22-250 all day long
Most of my shots will be under 200-300 yds . Rarely or more accurately never do i take a shot at 500 but once or twice in my 66 years I’ve taken shots at 400 yds
Could not wait for this one!
You nailed it!
Thanks,
Great job!
Thank you Kim Coveney for your enthusiasm and compliments. Much appreciated.
22-250 Is a steel plate piercer even with ceramic in front and behind. NO 223 Does this so well
The table top comparison is great.
Cheers Mate! Another great presentation from you once again. I enjoy your knowledge very much.
Thank you Refai Abdeen for your compliments. Much appreciated.
Thought provoking and well presented as usual, well done
Thank you AussieShooter1479 for your compliments. Much appreciated.
Great content! Always a fan of the .204 and this video is the reason why! Coyotes BEWARE!
Thank you Jason Curtis for your compliments. Here is a link to a short vid that shows beloved 204 in action. Hope you enjoy and share with your friends. ua-cam.com/video/jIYtYNBybl4/v-deo.html
The 204 is a awesome round. The 32 grain round is a nasty sob. Killed many woodchucks with the one I had. Unfortunately it was stolen. My last room mate had a 22-250 and I had my 204. We lived together for 4 years and he always grabbed my 204 over his 22-250 for hunting varmints. I shot the 32 grain rounds and they were explosive on whatever it hit out to 800 yards. That was my longest shot on a woodchuck. Had to get out the range finder to verify that shot as I was proud of it. I can also say first hand that the wind doesn't effect the 32 grain round as much as you would think.
Another thing is if you decide to get a 204 I would go with a stainless steel barrel. The blued bull barrel on my savage was shot. Had over 5000 rounds on mine. First 3 shots would be on target and after that they were all over the place. The only reason I was so mad when it was stolen was because of the scope I had on it.
Well done; well presented and you DID NOT SAY, "You have to do it my way or you are wrong". This is what you did, take a look, if you find it informative, good; if not, go your own way.. Thank you.
Thank you so much. I was gonna get .223 but I am not sure now. I was comparing the same bullets 22-250, 223, & 204 Ruger as I want to get a rifle for target shooting and maybe coyotes hunting for up to 500 yards. Price per bullet is also key as I would like to go for target shooting. So the cheapest bullets are: .223 was $0.70, 22-250 $1.57, and .204 Ruger at $1.70. What concerned me was that .204 Ruger only had one supplier while .223 and 22-250 had so many options. So, while .223 has the cheapest rounds, .204 Ruger has no options at all. It seems 22-250 is the best option here. maybe I can reload my own cartridges... oh, man..
Alexander Agustine Re-loading is almost as much fun as shooting what you get into it I highly recommend you reload
No way I would pay $1.70 around for a 22 caliber
.204 is great for coyote or smaller. Factory ammo is limited and costs the same as 22-250. It’s better at doing what the .223 does but at a much higher cost. If your only to own one varmint rifle that could double for deer the 22-250 and .223 can play multiple roles with proper bullet selection. If I see a yote at 400 plus I don’t want to doubt the energy, so personally 22-250 fills those roles all in one package.
Love my 204 very accurate no matter what bullet weight you shoot through it
Great Review. This really is an eye opener. it would have been interesting to see how the 53 gr V-max in .224 BC .290 traveling at roughly 3800 fps stacks up against the .204 40 gr V max. Either way both great cartridges.
Thank you Nowell Greasley for your compliments and for sharing your thoughts. Believe me when I tell you that you and I think alike about the .224 caliber 53 grain. I will be uploading several more comparison & shooting videos in the next few days that feature the 204, .223, & 22-250. Please stay tuned... 👍
.204 is to limited on bullet weight and type for me. 22-250 all the way especially if you are going to handload at all. Huge selection bullets from 35-95 gr. for target,varmint,hunting,and anything else you want to do. thanks for the vid!!!
The .204 in 40gr dominates 22-250 in 40gr. Less recoil, less noise, less powder, far less heat and throat erosion, better barrel life. Huge list. If the .204 does not cut it the next move is a .243. Also .204 ammo is cheap now, no reloading needed. The .223 does beat it in ammo cost. 22-250 is good in fast twist and heavier bullets but then so is the .243
The ONLY problem with .22-250 is manufacturers set twist rate to stabilize the 55 and lighter bullets. The one-fourteen or one-twelve twists just will not stabilize a 70 grain and heavier bullet. But I have to agree with you on the limitations of the .204 Ruger. The .204 Ruger is probably a better deal for those who do not reload ammunition and have range and noise limitations.
What rate of twist are you using that handles both 35 and 90 grain projectiles?
If 204 was as cheap as 223 I’d take the 204. Otherwise I’ll take the 223 simply because I can afford to shoot it a lot more and ammo is widely available
I was hoping to see more 22-250 bullet variety idk what 55 gr bullet the 223 and 22-250 were using but that BC seems a lil low compared to like a 55 gr Viacom or Nosler with .279ish and with comparing the 32gr ruger 204 saying it’s the fastest..... it is... but there’s 40,and 45gr .22-250 loads pushing over 4,000 FPS. Just saying.
Exactly, but how are you going to claim the 204 is the best if you were to show that, haha. The fact is the 22-250 is a much more well rounded caliber than the 204 in this space. The only drawback is felt recoil, but it is not really an issue at this size. A 22-250 firing 40-45 gr is still going to put out great energy and less felt recoil than the 55gr with all the speed of the 204. Yet you can move up to a 55 grain with higher BC's to hold its speed better. The advantages for the 204 are lower recoil, low powder quantity(lower reloading cost), adequate varmint power.
Brandon Richardson watch the rest of the video. He also compares the 40gr and 50gr
In 22-250 and .204.
Another advantage of the .204 is it’s quieter. In Alberta we cannot use suppressors so quieter when yote hunting is another advantage.
I'm.a 204 man just love that little caliber
Sold my 223's and 22-250's and have converted to the church of the 204 Ruger. I have 5 in the stable and they are amazing. 40gn VMAX for the win!
Why didn't you just keep the others?..
Now we have orphaned fire arms running around out there
Outstanding tabletop review. Thanks subscribed
.204 Ruger with a 32gr bullet or 34gr explodes squirrels drops coyote, bobcat, fox, like rocks. I see the hits no recoil. It is a killer round. They are all great rounds. Witnessing my hits matters to me.
.22-250 is king
Robert Dancho no disrespect to you or the 22-250 but the .220 swift has been king since 1935.
Here's to praying the swift making a come back. Again lol.
Both are wrong
My custom 220 Swift pushing 55 grs 4000 fps easily would beg to differ. But I like the 22-250 also.
Has anyone done a sound / decibel reading of these three cartridges. I would be interested as Aust won't allow moderators......or are they all bloody loud.
They are all very loud.
Great info. How about adding the .220 swift please. Great videos sir. Keep'em comin
Thank you Todd Huff for your kind words. Much appreciated.
I'll still pick my 5.56 barnes ttsx leaving at 3300. The ammo chosen for this comparison is less than ideal for the rounds.
22-250 hands down. You'd have to buy a gun and build it around 75gr +or_ gr or better yet the 95'ers. Do that and it's not even a remotely close comparison, more comparison to 22-250 and 243 then the 204 and 223.
The 22 250 and 204 are in a different class due to COAL. The 22 250 is an ar 10 or short bolt action where a 204 is an ar 15 or a micro bolt action.
You got to include the 53gr vmax in the 22-250
How does the 204 rugar do against the 6.5
Then use a 55 grain in 204 ruger, I’d like to see these numbers
While the .204 Ruger is very interesting, the .22-250 is well established. I already own one rifle chambered in an obsolete cartridge (.350 Remington Mag). Long term availability of ammunition should be a consideration.
I, myself, wouldn't buy a 22 wssm, a 223 valkyrie, a 22 Nosler, or even another 220 Swift or 222. But the .204 Ruger has been around 15+ years and is still very popular.
How about the new Sierra 36gr BlitzKing in the 204
I think this is all very informative and fascinating stuff. As in all things though you have to account for many variables such as barrel weight/length/twist before optimising your caliber to your rifle and intended quarry and make allowance for distance windage etc.
At that stage you really need to say each caliber has its merits and demerits. All have a place and no one caliber is a silver bullet. Hauling a heavy bull barrel rifle up and down in rolling open country can get really old really quick unless your very fit.
I may love the power of my 660 magnum chainsaw but its a tree dropper more than a fire wood cutter and man that beast gets heavy after half an hour let alone a day in the bush.
Far better to use this info to help you decide what works best for your kind of hunting.
go on...?
Would have been fun to include the .220 Swift 55gr on that chart just for comparison.
Try a 1-9 twist 220 swift 69 grain @3511 fps. Pretty much the same trajectory as a 204 Ruger @4220 fps 32 grain.
Very good video
G'day,
You have missed several things that should be considered
Time of flight.
Bullet trajectory. (Drop)
Wind drift,
Ammo availability.
Reloading consumables/amount of choices/options.
Barrel life.
Cost per shot.
Types/styles of firearms available.
Having said that It was still an informative vidio. Thank you.
Thank you for your creative compliment. 🙂
What about a 40 grain 22-250?
Can you accidentally chamber 204 Ruger in a 223 rifle?
This video is excellent, very informative
Thank you Happy Camper for your compliments. Here are some links to the follow-up vids you may find helpful.
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I was mainly trying to use the cartridges that are the most readily available in all 3 calibers. More vids on this topic to follow. Thanks in advance for staying tuned.
We shoot 204 Ruger from a 100% stock LMT rifle w/ legal auto sear. Just suppressed it w/ a KAC corncob
I've found that the 220 Swift is a more accurate cartridge than the 22-250 for reasons I can't explain. So I've always picked the Swift for a high power 22 caliber. Moreover, why would someone buy a 22-250, when the 243 Winchester or 6 MM Remington use almost the same amount of powder, but have more energy, bullet selection and versatility? So the decision comes down to the 204 or the 223. The 223 Rem has a huge advantage in versatility, availability and ammo selection over the 204 Ruger. Nevertheless, damn the logic, the 204 is such a cute round, I'd go with it anyway despite having owned a couple of 223s
Will Branson 6mm is hard to find, like a 220 Swift. And 22-250 has taken off in popularity among varmint hunters. I wanted one long before it became so popular
I would like to see the wind deflection changes on all the rounds. But i think for hunting i would go with 22-250 50 grn. How ever ethically i would not shoot at anything whitetail deer sized past 300 yards with any of these rounds. Coyotes, crows any thing else except turkey i would. Well maby turkey too.
Awesome awesome video my daughter wants to start coyote hunting with me and I was looking for something less violent then the 22 250 so Ruger 204 it is thank you for such an in-depth I opening review because I had no idea that little bullet was that fast. I do have a question though will these immense foot-pounds of energy on target yield fur destroying results she would like to mount one. And I don't feel like taking a mop and a bucket to the hunting blind foot pounds is the energy put on the animal how much force correct?
Thank you Sean Kinter for your kind words and for subscribing. Ft lbs is indeed the measure of energy that a bullet possesses and is used to describe how hard a particular bullet will impact the target.
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I pasted a couple of links to some more calibers worth considering if you are looking for a more fur friendly cartridge.
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Do this to the 6.5cm & 7mm-08
Having looked at the reloading manuals the 22/250 will fire the 53 v max at circa 3800 so faster and better bc at .290 than .204 39g bullet. I am just waiting for a Barbara 22/250 HMR with a 1 in 9 twist. That will shoot 75g vld at 3500 with a bc of 460, now that will blow the others away for hit percentage as the range gets longer
S B my 22-250 has a 7 twist barrel. Slinging 90 grain bergers or sierras. Most accurate and consistent rifle I’ve ever seen in real life.
Never seen a 39g 204 bullet
You ca actually buy a 22-250 in store with a 1:9. Getting a 1:8 or 1:7 is better but have to order the barrel
I own both but realistically the 22-250 is a more powerful round. I could ethically shoot a deer with a 22-250 but not sure about the 204.
Yes I'd take the 22-250 all day every day iv shot um all and the 22-250 is King of the varmint guns
If you are going varmint hunting the 204 Ruger cartridge is the most suitable.
@@axelsprangare2579 agreed
22 250 is king and kills deer other two kill deer as well 223 better ammo supply cheaper and can be a ranch shtf gun crossover 204 rugers ny loophole round
Great video very informative
Thank you howya12 for your encouraging words. Much appreciated. 👍
where did you get that .22-250 load? Golden standard is the 50rd white box of Winchester 55gr JHP at ~4100 fps. not saying that would have changed anything just looks odd to me.
Hey nice job. I have all three and love them all.
Thank you Mooglas Melson for your compliments. Would love to have you become a subscriber as well. 👍
I think its all about what you like. We're all experts
Interesting but not the best way to compare the performance. Real meat, skin and bone is the true measure of performance. In that regard there is only one cartridge that wins. And that is the .204 Ruger loaded with the Speer 39gn hollow point projectile. I made the choice to test .204/.223/22.250 using the meat/skin/bone method at 200yds. It was a windy day and to be honest I thought the 22.250 would win hands down. I used Hornady 40gn V-max in the 22.250 at 4,250fps, same pill in the .223 at 3,775 fps and the .204 had the 39gn Speer at 3,900fps. The larger diameter projectiles were more affected by the wind, but the terminal damage of the .22 calibre projectiles was much less than that of the .20, while paper figures give us the theoretical performance they do not give us the in field real performance. One thing is certain though, I would not like to be hit by any of these pills, and wild dogs sure as heck cannot tell the difference when their engine room is exploded by one of them.
One of the best Coyote Hunters I've ever known decided to get a Remington AR in .204. He used it one season and went back to his 22-250. Didn't hold up in the wind good enough and didn't deliver sufficient energy upon impact at ranges beyond around 300 yards (too many yotes ran off after being hit. He was using Vmax bullets.). .223 is great out to 300 yards or so then gets real squirrelly in the wind. 22-250 all the way. You can even get barrels in proper twists to stabilize bullets up to about 95 grs for shooting targets out to 1000 yards or larger game. Numbers look great but then real world situations intervene. fwiw
So I'm a 204 lover! My gun loves the 32grain hornaday superformance tighter groups dropped my doe this year with it! Great video!! But I see that the hornaday superformance now makes a 35grain 22-250 advertised at 4450 velocity!! Not sure of the b.c. you should plug this into your calculater see what it looks like?? Maybe a follow up video
Thank you Kyle Van Zee for your enthusiasm and compliments. Without actually plugging it into a bc calculator yet my guesstimate is that it will have a b.c. of about .165
Any other guesstimates are encouraged to apply.
Here is a link to a vid of your favored .204 in action.
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Kyle Van Zee HORNADY.
NOT HORNADAY.
What barrel length are you using on the 204?
Todd Unruh. Am using a 25.6 inch barrel.
THE BEST. 22-250....
if you hit a Wallaby at 200 yards with a .223 55 grain it will run 50 to 70 yards . hit it with a 80 grain .243 it drops. its the shock power that nooks them down . a red stag shoot at 300 yards with a .30 06 150 grain heart shot will run 200 yards but a .300RUM SAME 150 GRAIN BULLET will nook it down..it comes down to case capacity=bigger case,= more powder =heaver bullet = MORE STOP //WHEN selecting a rifle if the shop owner dont ask you what you want to shoot & what range ,you are in the wrong shop //
In the hands of average Joe it's splitting hairs. They are all good rounds!
If you had used a 40 grain 22-250 V-Max, things would have been far more equal and the 22-250 would have been North of 4400 FPS. Just a thought. I like your video and will look for more. Keep up the good work. Jeff IFA Tactical
Josh Cooper yep that’s right.
What about s 220 swift? Nice video.
Thank you sherm dog for your compliments. Much appreciated. The 220 swift is a broad question... Is there a certain characteristic that you would like to know about it?
outdoor adventures just looking for a caliber with more down range energy specially for antelope. But yet low recoil. My 270 I feel is a bit much on my any more.
Sheen dog, do you know the approximate body weight of the antelope that you plan on hunting?
outdoor adventures there not heavy. My nephew uses a 22-250 and the tissue damage is crazy. 204 is also very fast and light so I was thinking the 220 would be perfect. Fast with a little heavier bullet to buck the wind better or if that even matters with the 204. I shoot no further than 400 yards.
Sherm dog. As you probably are aware, the 220 swift is very close to the 22-250 remington in terms of speed and available bullet weights. This video link may help.
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What we have to keep in mind between the 22-250 and the 223 Remington is that the twist rate of 223 Remington weapons tends to be higher, thus heavier bullets more appropriate for bigger things can be used. I will admit, though, that shot placement with the 22-250 and its typical bullet weights outweighs anything you can do with the 223 Remington.
For varmints and yotes, I think the 204 Ruger won't leave anything to desire.
Love my 204, dropping pigs,wild goat onnthe spot 👍 40gr vmax hornady
Obviously good shot placement?
No issues with stopping power?
my 22-250 loads are going at 4200fps
I think a better comparison would have been measuring apples to apples. For example, getting the 223 and 22-250 cartridges in 40 gr as well. You would have seen the apparent advantages of the 204 start shrinking to insignificance I think.
I really do not notice any recoil out of my heavy Ruger M77 in 22-250.
Thank you Jon Bumcrot for sharing this info. I should certainly hope that you do not feel any recoil in that rifle. Those are very sturdy, well made, and heavy. How much does yours weigh? 🤔
Because there isn't any. Measured recoil is useless I've noticed. Chairgunners compare measured recoil but it literally has no useful value. I had a 270 Remington 770 that I would consider as having no recoil whatsoever. If that gun affects your shooting fundamentals then you'd be a complete and total sissy. Sure a 12 guage or a savage axis in 308 is a pain in the butt on the shoulder and ears but to compare recoil on anything less then a 270win is splitting hairs ...
Talk to varmint hunters. Most say that they can see their shots in the scope on high mag with a 17wsm or 204 rugar but can't see them when using a 22-250. Takes part of the fun out of the shoot so yes that little big is enough to throw the scope view off. We are not talking about should pain here just ability to keep a high mag vamint scope on target to see the shot hit. To some this is a huge issue.
Parent cartridge for 22-250, it "looks' like a .308 brass necked down to .223, and .204, parent case the .223 brass? My Sierra bullet chart show 26 bullets, ranging from 40 grs. to 90 grs. so, I think that those two calibers,if you are a reloader, would be possibly the most useful, from sqib/low power loads using the 40 grain bullet to the 90grain loaded 5 grs.DOWN from the "book" Max Load for the larger game. Let us not leave out the cast lead bullet w/ gascheck.
I am a fan of the Bolt Action Rifle and I have, in the past, cast and reloaded my ammo.
At that time I was shooting a .357 and a .45LC, both Rugers. Under 50 yards both have taken deer sized game.
Rugers Bolt action rifle in .357mag is a rifle I really want to add to the gun vault.
Great video!!! My wife is going to be mad. I am getting a 204! 👍
Thank you Scott Fornall for your kind words. I am glad you enjoyed it. 👍
39gr sierra blitz king for the 204 run a ballistic coefficients of 0.287 I love them love ur video to
Watched it twice now - thanks.
Are you going to do a comparison against the .224 Valkyrie?
They make a 40 grain V Max in a 22-250 why did you not compare all the caliber with the same bullet
You can't compare a 40 grain .204 to a 55 grain .22-250. You should use a 45 grain in the .22-250 and then compare them. Or a 55 grain in the .204, other wise it's apples and oranges. Bullet weight must be close or the same for an equal comparison. I see that you did that at 14:00 into the video.
Boooooo..... lmao!!! As an ardent 22-250 shooter, I gotta get me one of those 204s, lmao!!
Over the years I've always zero'd my 250 at 275yds which gives me a "fur kill" from 50 - 300yds without scope adjustment.
A friend shoots a Tikka 204 and he has a hell of a time with his brass, 3 reloads from brand new brass and 2 reloads from commercial ammo - cases will only last 3 firings, and he isn't hot loading, his rifle shoots sub MoA at about middle of suggested loads. I am getting 6 reloads with my 250, and to achieve sub MoA accuracy I load close to the max load area. That, imho, is the 204 downfall - case life. Not much of an excuse, lol.
Only got 2 calibres in my safe, 22 & 45, maybe it is time to expand.
Cheers from downunder mate, great video, thanks for posting :)
Thank you Pilot McBride for taking the time to comment and share some really good info. I meant to reply sooner but got swamped with life and posting more 22-250, 223, & 204 ruger vids. I believe you are about 16 hours ahead in your time zone there. Hope you will have a great morning there. 👍
Dead right mate. Been up since 5am, enjoying life. Out to the range today, get some shots in before the heat settles in. Looking at another 100deg day today.
Look forward to view all your vids and catching up.
Cheers
Greetings Pilot McBride. I do not envy your heat situation there at all. Believe it or not, I have uploaded 5 vids since your initial comment. I am including a link to a playlist of recent vids that would be 223, 204 ruger, 22-250. I think there is even a vid on the 17 rem fireball and 17 remington. Please let me know what you think of those calibers as well.
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Thanks.
Thank you my friend I will certainly watch them tonight. Revving up the grandkids to take them to school then the range, lol. Ya just have to love shooting. Doing a load workup today using the Sierra GameKings in the 250. Over here we can access budget packs which are marked "Super Roos". Brings the cost down by half. Half you say? Yes, we pay, on average almost double the price you guys pay, average for Sierra GKs 55gn is about $50 Aust, $0.50 per pill, but the Super Roos are about $0.26 per pill, pretty much half price. I also reload for my son who shoots a 223, and his rifle loves them. My 250? Well sorting out the powders, shoots well, but I want more, 0.8 MoA isn't good enough out of my tikka, lol. Can get 0.3 using Hornady, but stone the bloody crows they hit my wallet hard. Once I start, can't stop so range day can be very expensive leaving a hole in my pest eradication as well as my wallet, lmao!!!
Thanks my friend, I'll look at those vids as soon as I get a chance.
Cheers from downunder :)
How does the 6mm stack up?
That is a great question thelocustemperor. Which of the 6mm cartridges are you referring to? There is the .243 Winchester, the 6mm remington, and even a new 6mm creedmoore...
News to me, thanks man I'm just getting started so not sure just yet...I'l get back to you!
sounds good.
Nosler publishes a load at 4400 ft./sec. for the .17 Remington.
but not enough lead flying to be accurate out past 200 yards, but explosive on varmints inside it. That light weight doesn't have much mass to buck wind, flies.
Would be interested to see the numbers for noslers 53gr varmageddon or dogtown cartridges in .223 compared to these! 3350 velocity with The Unusually high BC of .303. 1/2moa capable at 500yrds in my howa 1500 varminter with 24in barral belive it or not. No photos to prove it though haha. About 42in of drop at 500 give or take
I just wish we would not let the wonderful . 220 swift die. Makes me sad.
First and still the best when loaded correctly. Load it down to .222 rem speeds all day shooting
or all the way up to blistering speeds that are faster then the 22-250 with any weight bullet.
Up to 200+fps faster. And is extremely accurate as well.
Mine is 22.250 Ackley Improved, the best of both worlds, Cheers mate.
Great Video.
Why did you not use a 53g v max .224 bullet, these are .290 bc., also no-one I have ever heard about managed to get those .204 velocities even with 26 inch barrels.
Thank you S B for taking the time to share your thoughts. In regard to the 53 grain .224 bullet not being included, were you referring to it not being part of the spreadsheet comparison or part of the ballistic testing?
Thanks
Both, the reasons .20 calibers seem to outperform .22 are supposed velocity and bc . I have never heard of anyone getting the manufacturers claimed velocities for .204 ruger even with long barrels and the bc of 53g v max is better then 39g 20 cal. So on both counts the 22/250 with a 53g v max would surpass the 39g 20 cal.
The only area where the 20 cal is better is less recoil and a bit less noise as far as I can see. If 50 or 55 g 20 cal bullets were made and a faster twist barrel the 20 may gain the upper hand.
I do agree that on many occasions the stated velocities of the manufacturer do not match up with the actual velocities showing up on a chronograph. I do however think that this is tends to be true across the board and extends to the other calibers as well. As far as not using the higher bc 53 grain for the vid, I have not yet seen a manufacturer producing a 22-250 in the 53 grain, so I decided to keep it apples to apples on the .224 calibers.
I fully intend to make another vid that will actually chronograph these rounds and will be using some different ammo for the testing besides v-max as well. The 53 grain is definitely on the shopping list.
I will be interested to see the next video on the 53 grain .22 bullet. With regard to manufacturers overstating velocity , All the tests I have read on the .204 ruger have shown 32g velocity as about 3900 and 39g bulets at around 3650. A long way from the quoted 4000 and 4200.
My point is that a 53 or 55g Hornady v max with shoot from 22/250 's at 3700 ish. This is pretty much the stated figures from the manufacturers so no other cartridge I can think of cannot be home loaded to anywhere near the stated figures like a .204 Ruger can.The 22/250 with a heavier bullet with a better bc travelling at about the same speed as a .204 39g. I do not own a 22/250 yet but may buy one in the future. I currently shoot .308 and .17 Rem
S B you just said the magic word, “ 17 rem.” You are definitely on my good side now. Will see what I can do about another vid with the 53 grain .224
I think you can get a higher b.c. on 223 or 556 with a 62 gr bullet that’s what I’m using now I don’t see the point in going with those other cals unless ammo becomes scarce or the atf messes everything up in the next 4 years which could happen 😤
.223 is the way to go. Way cheaper than 22-250 and more available than .204. If .223 can kill a man at 600 yards then you can kill varmits and deer at a great distance.
You can shoot 40gr in 22-250 . I think itd be closer. Heck you can get a screaming fast 38gr. If you like high velocity rounds I feel like why use 55gr ? Just get a 223 ..
204 is a Beast at long ranges.
Paper ballistics is not the same as real hunting.22-250 is the champ
You do know 22-250 Remington also comes in 44 grain, Right? Compare that one with that 204 40 grain, then post those findings.
kenneth roberts exactly!
The 22-250 also has bullet selections with. 28 and above that would keep it ahead of the. 204.
You talk about felt recoil with a 22 cal cartridge, you lost me there!
Brian Mcdonald same here. Recoil with varmint rifles can be an issue, but it’s not “felt” recoil. It can be an issue when it’s enough in a lighter gun that the scope has enough movement after the shot that you can’t see your hits through the scope. It’s especially an issue when prairie dog hunting, seeing your hits is half the fun. But as far as actual felt recoil with a 22 caliber rifle....
PS, Zero your 204 Ruger for 275m.... 40 gn vmx, CCI SMP's and H322 makes a VERY effective load.
Great video
Thank you will ty for the compliment. Here is a link for a follow up vid that you may also enjoy. ua-cam.com/video/rLD9EFWIhbA/v-deo.html