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Good reaction….l loved it until the last two episodes. But one thing I don’t understand you two kept bringing up. Why did you all think Bran could see the future? He could see thru the raven and see the present and he could go back and see the past but never once in the entire run of the show did they ever say he can see the future. 🤷🏼♂️. Anyway loved the reactions and trust me…you will LOVE House of the Dragon 🐉.
This should have ended with a trial by combat between Jon and Grubworm, Jon sparing Grubworm's life, and Jon having the choice to lead the 6 or leave to the North in exile.
@@bgelback69 Because in the books, everything may be on Time Loop. 3EC is the Lord of Fire playing with time to get the future outcome he is looking for. So it looks like he can predict the future when he can't or he knows from other Ravens who made alternate decisions what one path chooses over another. It's a theory by David Lightbringer and some others.
@@bgelback69they don’t touch on it in the show but in the books the original three eyed raven could see glimpses of the future in visions.
and it gives all alternative answers on any questions
Sensa is queen.
Bran is king too.
Arya does what she wants.
Jon is sent away.
Catelyn wrote that ending.
Now this is funny!🤣
LMAO the last one gives it away huh xD
The amount of times I’ve seen this comment 😆
Sansa Stark is Queen of the north
Bran Stark is King of the 6 Kingdoms
Arya Stark is faceless man, Night King slayer turned adventurer
Jon Snow is King Beyond The Wall, former King of the north, Former Lord Commander
Rickon Stark....did not know how to zig-zag.
@@CaptainJonLuckPickardahahahahaha
Fun fact. The island of Naath has a disease that is spread by butterflies that only the natives are immune to so the unsullied all died.
Ahahahahahahahaha
😂😂😂😂
It’s really like the writers forgot all of George’s lore the second he wasn’t involved anymore, like all it would take is a google search about naath to find out how stupid that is lol
To be fair, that was not part of the show lore. But for us book readers it's still very funny 😂
They can kill the fucking butterflies,they are nasty and they eat blood.
Arya: “ I know a killer when I see one”
Jon: “oh really what gave it away, was it the thousands of dead bodies or the subtle look in her eyes?”
Arya: “uhh… the second one”
Jon: “I’ll take your advice, as someone who’s never personally fought in a life or death situation myself”
Well John wasn’t really acting like he saw her as a killer. Wasn’t so obvious to John 😭
The highly honorable respectable Ned Stark beheads a man running for his life from monster. This is fine.
Arya murders an entire extended family and bakes them into a pie to feed to their father. This is fine.
Jon hangs a teenage boy. This is fine.
Sansa feeds a man alive to a pack of dogs. This is fine.
But everybody better watch out! Dany is a KILLER! Oh no!
@bobdonda are you one of those people who think that executing a murderer and the holocaust are pretty much the same?
@@TimL-nr4hr No, just talking about how dumb the dialogue is. Being "a killer" isn't a horrible thing in Westeros. Only Tyrion ever discussed what Dany did, and she doesn't even explain it herself, but Arya's attempt was basically "killing is bad"
Cersei: I want our baby to live
Jamie: We're all that matters
Red Keep: Brickarys
lmaooooo
That ep when Cody was like “Bran is broken!” I laughed so hard 😂😂
same lol!
😂 Same here!
sameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Same! 😂
Bran to Jojen: What else have you seen?
Jojen: The only thing that matters... You.
If only dumb and dumber didn't feel the need to rush the ending..... Lmfao.
Deciding Jon's fate at this council: Jon's entire living family, Jon's best friend, Jon's Hand, Jon's sister's bodyguard, Jon's nephew, Jon's uncle.
Nephew and Uncle? Tf?
Can’t wait for House of the Dragon 🐉 so many dragons 😍🥰
@@NewYorkFloridaManExactly lol. Couldn’t even finish it, it’s just all so fake. It’s literally like comparing ‘The Lord of the Rings’ trilogy with ‘Rings of Power’ from Amazon. 😂
@FunkyJabroni you're high
@@Sebas.504this is the dumbest take I’ve ever heard. Rings of power has nothing to do with the original lord of the rings. House of the dragon story was actually written by the same author of song of ice and fire not the same at all. And you stopped watching is your own stupidity the best episodes were the last 3
@@NewYorkFloridaManOmg what? Who are y to say that 😂
Yeah! It's great
"I already watched the meeting" 😂😂 that SENT me Cody!
Best part of this episode
"And who has a better story than bran" literally anyone
"Is brienne on the kingsguard now?" As you can see from the fact that she is writing in the white book AND has a seat on the small council, she is the Lord Commander of The Kingsguard
Excluding the “hold the door” episode, I can’t think of a single good story I liked around bran the boring
bran was always gonna be king
Bran is more suited to being the kings hand than anything
@@Randomyoutubecommenter exactly!
Omg they were not talking about HIS story in particular, idk why ya'll take it so literall. It was about the stories Bran have... And he have every story.
I really dont understand why you're so mad. Yes it was very unexpected based on the build up from all seasons before, but it's makes perfect sence. Who can be a better king than a dude who saw EVERYTHING.
Starting from the past, he knows all previous kings and mistakes they made, so he wont. And if something would about to happen he also will know it.
Over 7 seasons jon was built up and became a likeable respected honourable man who would always try to do what was right no matter what that meant for himself to basically a one line side character she's ma queen
I think the implication of Jon's ending is that he is becoming a King Beyond the Wall.
Ye. Grey Worm won’t be around to keep tabs on whether Jon is serving his sentence.
King of what? Some lake somewhere?
We're still supposed to get a sequel with Jon eventually. It's been greenlit but hasn't began production yet. Same thing with Dunk and Egg. I think they're probably waiting for HotD to be closer to the end before they drop another live action GoT show. I say live action because there's also a couple animated GoT spin offs in the works, the main one being called 10,000 ships which will follow Princess Nymeria, who Arya named her wolf after.
I'd love to see him pop a cold one with Boomhauer and be King of the Hill of the North. "Winter. Yep."
That wall is gonna melt and the seas are gonna rise lmao
End of an era. Will miss these. Looking forward to the future!
House of the Dragon ?
I mean, technically that's the past
@@tiredoftherightleft5644nope, still can’t 😂
In my opinion, despite this shitty end, GoT was the best show ever, when this show was on air, it's gathered people in small villages, in pubs in the big cities, familes gathered for the diffusion, fans elaborate theories and became friends etc...... Never a show did that and it will never happen again .....
House of the Dragons is good, but we know all the story, who die when he died, how he died even where he's buried.
Dialogues are good but not enough.....
Dragons are fine but it's too much, dragon time all the tme....
Games of Thrones was something else.....so YES : End of an Era.
Sorry for my bad english, i'm french , i understand but writing or talking is more tricky......
@@marjofrance83 absolutely!👏🏾👏🏾Just said this to someone yesterday…there is no other show that compares. As infuriating as the ending was I STILL went back and rewatched the series 2 more times.Theres a reason that GOT reactions are some of the most viewed…This show is still phenomenal.
You misunderstood Jon's ending. There is no nights watch anymore, as you can see when castle black is filled with wildlings.They used that as a excuse to free Jon from the charges of killing Dany. Jon imo had the best ending, hes finally free...he never wanted a crown or leadership. Hes finally free with his people in the true north, as you can see when they leave the wall and ride back north free. And you assume Sansa wanted to be a independent kingdom out of ego and selfish reasons, She wanted the north and its PEOPLE to be free of the tyrants of the south like they were for thousands of years.
Tyrion: "Who has a better story than Bran the broken."
Cody and the rest of civilization: "what?"
😂😂😂😂😂
Grey Worm: “Shut up, you are a prisoner for treason. We’re taking you back to your cell, but yeah, take a few minutes to pick who is king”
Ramsey Bolton said it best. If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Happy ending? I'm fine with it not having a Happy ending...what I wasn't fine with was a poorly written one. The show runners famously rushed the Ending as JRR Martin hasn't finished the books. They were offered star wars films and rushed it despite Martin Begging for 4 more seasons. Then Disney dumped them. And they're done nothing since...
but this was not even a ending they did exactly opposite what every character should and will be in books
i would rather the white walkers win over this shit
I much prefer a sad ending to a shitty bad-written ending.
except that literally everybody got a happy ending except Daenerys and the Lannisters
The best thing about this ending is Tormund getting to spend the rest of his life with "His little crow" lol. In my mind, they are definitely going to be a couple of Kings beyond the wall now. And Bran was like "yo, if I let this million or so people die, I'll be king, cool, I will totally do that". And all this mystery of Jon's heritage? Doesn't even matter in the end. What a joke. Also, It feels so wrong that the Starks in the end are all separated. They were apart for most of the show and their objective was to reunite, but alas, they literally ended up in different ends of the world!! I feel like Arya for sure would prefer to stay by Sansa's side as her protector, but nooo. Their mother would be soo pissed. Also, fun fact from the book, The Isle of Narth has these native poisonous butterflies that kill everyone who isn't native to the island, so Greyworm and his crew are sailing off to their demise lol.
and the remaining Dothraki (of which there are a LOT) are apparently just going to chill in Kings Landing forever...JFC
The lone wolf dies, the pack survives. Right?
@@TheRAH14 Yeah, right? Crazy. They would be worth then wildlings, they would not just pillage but probably also fall back to their old ways and even enslave. Thus, Dany potentially effectively brought slavery to Westeros, cool 😅
@@barbaramcgee8933Exactly! This was mentioned several times throughout the series, but now we'll just ignore it. I get that it implied that they must stick together during winter/danger, but still. But noo, let's go see what's on the other side of the world in one little ship, what can go wrong? I remember from lore that one Stark back in the day already attempted it and was never seen again. Also, another adventurous lady (Ellisa Farman) attempted the same, and later her boat remains were found in Asshai, thus implying that their world is round too. Also, Aria could just potentially ask Bran what is west of Westeros, since he is allegedly all-knowing.
@@МарияГалушко-ш1ц oopsies
You guys will enjoy HOTD. Can’t wait to watch your reactions ❤
The one I feel for the most is Drogon. He lost his entire family in this war and all he wanted to do was to go back to Valyria. I totally understood why he destroyed the Iron throne. The pursuit of it and its power was at the root of so much loss.
I think he recognized the throne was what corrupted Dani.
@@akhnatenpage4854no the writers have said the throne was collateral damage for drogon just throwing a tantrum and shooting fire all over the place, they couldn’t even give him that one little thing, this whole season was trash.
@@mercurynieman1752 damn, that sucks lmao
None of the dragons have ever been shown to think with that much depth. Drogon would’ve 100% torched Jon for killing his mother. It’s just terrible writing, plain and simple
Drogon should’ve killed Jon, like this actually crazy to me that he didn’t
Also if you missed it, Sam was saying that drogon was last seen flying towards Volantis, where the Red Priestesses are.
Yeah it's stupid why wont drogon kill jon ,the unsullied and dothraki letting jon go? Greyworm would have killed jon without even wating for the others opinions
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain… poor Dany
But then she died anyways soooo…
The difference between Jon and Sam going back to the wall is that for Jon it was because he killed the queen, not because he left. They aren’t holding him accountable for leaving the wall. But you are right unless Yara and other Dany defenders were going to be sure they uphold it, he didn’t have to leave.
sam also technically left the wall with the intent of becoming a Maester, which I believe is legal? unsure on the technicalities on that tho
I agree, but I honestly like the idea of him going back beyond the wall because he never wanted to be king anyway
It seemed so stupid that Yara would become such a staunch defender of Dany. Like what about Yara’s character tells me she’s that invested in a Targaryen reign? The ironborn are very self-serving and have an air of isolationism.
His brother is the king, his sister is the queen of the north, if they wanted they could have easily pardoned him. They just screwed him over.
I think that’s where he always wanted to be. It’s the closest thing to home he truly has.
The reason Sansa being queen of the north is a win is because they'd just talked about how Bran can't father children, so future rulers of the grouping of kingdoms will be chosen (and presumably people will still seek power and uprisings). Sansa might have been ok with being in the seven kingdoms under BRAN, but she's not going to risk the north being under a non-Stark ruler in the distant future after they're both dead -- she wants to keep the Starks in charge of the north indefinitely. And I think the northerners would be grateful for that and love her for de-tangling them from the south.
Sansa is just Cersi 2.0. She’s nothing but a dumb little ass…
That doesn't make sense then why 6 other kings would not do the same the whole point of Aegon the Conqueror was to keep all kingdom together and stop wars between each other because that all they did when they were separate kingdoms so now we kind of go back to fighting between kingdoms which is stupid again bad writing
@@queenxx1690 The other 6 didn't speak up, they went along with Bran being king; only Sansa asked to not be part of the seven kingdoms, so that's why it happened. Is it bad writing? Yes. Is it a win for the north? Overall, yes.
Equally bad writing: Sansa and Arya having a moment about how "the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives", but in this ep all the Starks go different ways. Also Arya says no one knows what's east of Easteros, while she was standing right next to Bran, who'd presumably know!
I disagree about Aegon the Conqueror's motives, but that's not relevant for this video. :)
@@DontDrinkTheLuminol every time i watch someone react i find another stupid plot 😆 still hurts
@@DontDrinkTheLuminol Bran's weirwood roots system probably doesn't extend that far.
"Read-aloud Encyclopaedia" 🤣🤣
yeah he is basicly chatGPT
Maester GPT would have been my preferred Bran-duty in Jon’s kingdom.
You had the same reaction as many fans. Most people were disappointed by the ending. It’s a great show even with the ending.
Yeah I usually just ignore seasons 7 and 8 when rewatching. I like to pretend it got cancelled until GRRM finishes the next book 😂
@ShastaMusic Oddly enough, I can watch GOT up to season 7. Season 8 was horrible except for episode 3.
@@LadySophiaVelaryonEpisode 3 wasn’t bad, but the plot armor was through the roof and that made everything worse. 2 was the last decent episode and then everything went downhill.
@@LadySophiaVelaryon Season 7 is pretty bad too but its at least watchable. Season 8 I can’t even rewatch because of how awful the experience was the first time I watched it
Bran who knew the future didn't bother to tell anyone to prevent thousands from dying so he could be King.
Wrong
He says in another episode he can only see the past and present , not future
Drogon the KING that wasn’t promised but we needed
I think its so tale telling for Dany's transformation to a tyrant, how she for the first time doesn't speak to the people she 'liberated' (as there probably aren't many left anyways) but to the soldiers. She's no longer in their middle, but above them. She makes it very clear. She sees what's right and no one else get to choose.
Poor Drogon. He’s all alone 😢
Also the shot of Dany with Drogons wings is probably the only decent bit this episode.
I can't wait for you guys to watch HOTD!
It sucks that Grey Worm was the only former slave, who’s name we knew, to survive and they made him a war criminal.
not to me fuck kings landing lol
Grey Worm was a trained assassin, all of the Unsullied were. Dany freed slaves and Unsullied, I wouldn’t confuse the two.
@@annewoodard6803 The unsullied were literally slaves.
@@stephanielomeli6950 AMEN xD
@@annewoodard6803 wtf are you talking about? Stop smelling the glue. The faceless men where trained assassins, the unsullied were slave soldiers. They were picked against their will, they didn’t “volunteer” to be part of the unsullied.
Arya reunited with her family that she missed all the fucking show just to leave after a few weeks 😊
Bran "I can't be lord of anything" Stark
“Because ‘lord’ is beneath me”
Wattpad books got better writing 😭😭whoever wrote these last 2 seasons deserves jail time🤦🏾♀️
He said lord not ruler for a reason
Would they elect a different family to rule winterfell when he died? Just give away their ancestral home? He can't further the stark line. He can easily be replaced as king by a new system. Not a complicated thought process
@@JasonTerri-eg2vl sensa rules over winterfell. She'll probably pass winterfell to her first born child.
I have been waiting so long to see your reaction to Bran becoming King LOL even the actor who played him thought it was a joke at first 😂
25:55 it makes me so happy you guys had the exact same reaction to his becoming king that I and everyone I know did. Basically; “What?!?”
Remember when Bran was talking about Jon Snow's parentage? "he is the true heir of the iron throne" LOL Lemme just yoink that chair real quick.
And he know what dany would do,he didn't tell anyone or try to stop it ,he wanted that thrown
Where were they going????? They were going HOME! Their home is north of the wall.
7:00 "how'd you get up there?" EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
The way bran says -“why do u think I came all this way?” Did he influence circumstances to make him be king?!
He is the true villain
Thank you both for an EXCEPTIONAL job reacting for us all. Enjoyed each episode!
Bran's story was so good that he was absent for a whole season 5.
"and who has a better story.... than Bran the Broken?" (awkward pause) "What?" congrats guys now you're caught up
Yohn Royce going "I'll ask my horse!" gets me every time.
Jon didn't want to be King...EVER!
Exactly, and people don’t understand that, he loves the night watch since child, and we wants to be lord commander
@@dymatized3195 From my point of view, it eases Jon's conscious a bit for killing his Queen and the woman he loves. It was a proper punishment for a honorable character like him. He's free from his burdens to a birthright he never wanted to inherit. There is also no real "Nights Watch" since there's nothing else beyond the wall to Guard the Realms of men, and with the North being an Independent Kingdom, I'm sure he's free to come and visit Winterfell without repercussions from the Southern Kingdoms. I think it was all just a formality to get the Unsullied off his back.
Starks had a come up ending the series with three Stark rulers. Jon as king beyond the wall, Bran king of the six kingdoms, and Sansa queen of the north.
Bran being king really ruined the ending for me. I loved Sansa becoming queen of the north, though.
Arya doing her thing made me really happy. She never was meant to be in one place or hold a title. That’s not her.
Bran- Knows everything: does nothing
Jon- Knows nothing: does everything
Of course Jon ratted himself out. He probably said it the exact same way He told the wildlings he killed Mance raider. Remember? He was just like “I put an arrow through his heart”. And everybody wanted to kill him. And he still didn’t tell them exactly what happened Tormund had to.
No body, no dragon, there was not even a decent reason for anyone to believe him.
Also, one nice thing with Sansa…she begged her parents to let her go to King’s Landing so she could marry Joffrey and be queen. She had some romanticized, fairy tale version of life that she has learned doesn’t exist. Then, she is married off to Ramsey to get power in The North, only to be raped and tortured. They get Winterfell back and people name her brother king, only for him to forfeit his power to Dany (for good reasons, but still understandably upsetting). In the end, she becomes queen without a man. I was mat about it at first, but rewatching the whole show a couple of times since, I really appreciate that Sansa learned and ended up on top. The ending is definitely bittersweet….rewatching made it click way better than in my first watch, and I now really like the ending. I know not everyone gets to or wants to rewatch shows, but this is one that deserves it, for sure. What you miss in surprises, you gain in deeper understanding of it all.
It’s been an amazing ride with you guys watching this! So much love!
I cannot WAIT for you guys to start the house of the dragon!!!!
you all don't understand the three eyed raven....... it's not that when you becomes it you know and see everything but you CAN do it. He was learning how to do it and learn the most important thing but when he asked "am i ready" the answer was "no". So Bran doesn't know many things but with his power and knowing what to look for, he can see and learn but if he has no reason to investigate he may miss important events like the wedding between Raeghar and Lyanna. Once Sam told him about it and when it was, Bran immediately saw them, but without a hint he has no reason to go in the past and watch that place in that day.....
They still have to honor sending Jon to the wall because of the Iron Islands. Yara felt the same as Grey Worm. They'd rebel if they didn't follow through.
Sansa was perfect ending the North should be independent they have always wanted that and she gave it the north back to them good on her in my opinion.
You might want to check out Spartacus series. One of the best i've seen, even tho the amount of blood in the show is totally unrealistic, it makes up by plot and acting.
inb4 drogon took her to valyria to the Blood Magic temple and she revives immune to the doom of valyria and becomes walking pestilence with an army of stone men and dinosaurs from the basilisk isle 🤣
ok but go on...
Im listening….. 👀
Yes
Remember when Jon said goodbye to Tormond, Tormand mentioned it may not be goodbye for good, Jon has too much of the real North in him. He ALWAYS ALWAYS wanted to be a Ranger. He gets to be with Ghost & the people who he seemed to feel most himself with.
First, let me say that I have thoroughly enjoyed watching your reaction vids for GOT. You have made me laugh at least a couple of times in every video. I agree with most of your criticisms and assessments of the characters and the show. However, I'm a bit confused when it comes to your views on the Jon and Sansa's endings. Jon could never be King of Westeros because he murdered the would-be queen. The other Lords did not know he was a Targaryan and the "rightful heir"...and I suspect that after what Dany did to that city, they would never want another Targaryan on the throne. In addition, Jon said more times than necessary that he did not want the throne, and considering how he handled being King in the North, I'd say it was just as well that he never got the opportunity. Jon was happiest when he was with the Wildlings, and the fact that he ended up back in the North and back with the free folk gives Jon the happy ending he probably would have wanted...even if the Jon groupies didn't like it.
As far as Sansa, I didn't see her as the power-hungry person who wanted to be queen. In fact, there were three other women who fit that description perfectly: Cersei, Margaery, and of course, Dany. And unlike any of them, Sansa was the least self-serving. In fact, everything she did once she escaped from Ramsey was to help her family, Winterfell, and the North. Sansa may have started out as a brat who wanted to be queen, but that ended the minute Joffrey cut off her father's head. Never again did I hear Sansa utter one word about wanting to be a princess or a queen. And in fact, when Jon was invited to Dragonstone to 'bend the knee' to Dany, Sansa did not want him to go. She didn't trust the invite and suggested he send an envoy. And while he was gone, the Lords of the North told Sansa that perhaps they should have chosen her as their leader. She immediately defended Jon and assured them that he was doing his best for the North. In both those instances, Sansa had a golden opportunity to take the title for herself, but she did not. She lead and protected the people, prepared the North for the war ahead, and ultimately (though regrettably) handed the reins to Dany. So I'm not sure where this disdain for her comes from.
This! Well said!
Yes, good points!
So good!
Literally everything she does is self serving. She has wanted that crown her entire life. She betrayed family members for the crown.
@@tracim3080did you even read what she said
Ghost will always be my favourite character from Game Of Thrones 🙏
I am so sick of people thinking the absolute worst of Sansa. The North declared independence all the way back in season 1 when the made Robb king in the North. The northern people have ALWAYS wanted to be independent, Sansa was looking out for her people’s interests.
Also she declared the north independent BEFORE the group decided to send Jon back to the Wall so really Sansa was trying to get the North back FOR JON, so y’all can fuck off with “she only cared about being Queen”. Sorry but that was Daenerys, not Sansa.
Sansa is the reason everyone was fed at Winterfell, Sansa is the reason everything stayed together when Jon left for Dragonstone, hell SANSA is the reason they got Winterfell back in the first place. She has proved time and time again that she is a competent and fair ruler and yet people still shit on her for no goddamn reason.
She said she wanted to be queen ONE time in the very first episode when she was a little girl and hadn’t even left home yet. But yeah sure, she’s totally power hungry and only ever cared about getting a throne 🙄
SANSA IS THE REASON JON DID NOT DIE IN THE BATTLE AGAINST RAMSAY. Give our girl the credit she deserves!
If there's one thing they did right was Sansa becoming queen. She suffered her whole life in other people's hands, of course she wants power now. Power is safety.
Not only that but Sansa suffered along with the Norths seeking independence. Everytime Robb won a battle she was beaten for it. Then she was violated by the Boltons and sold. She was the only Stark who really fought for that independence and for the wishes of her people. Jon was going to give up until she convinced him to fight.
Sansa wanted to be a queen but not the ruler. Over time she learned what it ment to truly be subservient to another human and saw how power corrupts and how it hurts others. She wanted to be free just like her own people.
codys confusion at tyrions speech about bran had me rolling🤣
All the kingdoms north of the wall that fell to the night king including all the wildling tribes. They know all those lands and wealth are there for them to take. Yeah they smile as they head north.
The look on Bridget and Cody's faces once the big reveal for king is made. It's everything. _(Italian finger kisses)_
Moral of the story…well behaved dragons(besides the itsy bitsy murders)
onto the house of said dragons
Everyone is to invested in these characters they cant take a step back and see how john killed the queen, doesnt matter if he was the heir. Greyworm, was hurt yes, but he wanted what would actually happen to people who betrayed and killed a queen. People like john and tyrion, as do i, so dont wont to see them punished but they did deserve it.
Bran can see all, now, then and after, nobody would make a better king than a king that can see dangers before it was even a thought.
People dont like the end because they dont like what happened to their favorite characters, but in reality john and tyrion should be dead but they are alive because they made bran king
The ending wouldnt have been so bad if Drogon burned Jon after finding Dany. He just has ultimate plot armor
"Bran can see all, now, then and after, nobody would make a better king than a king that can see dangers before it was even a thought."
It would make sense ... if he wouldn't have said in a previous episode, that "he can't be lord of anything" ...
When I watched the final episode for the first time, I was heavily confused why he'd say "Why do you think I came here?", because I still clearly remembered him saying, he is not going to be a ruler of anything ... that's makes it stupid ...
Without that remark, of him denying lordship, that would make a lot more sense.
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I like the short fan cut, where it just shows Bran to have blue eyes in the end, which implies the Night King took over his body during the battle of winterfell and now the Seven/Six kingdoms are ruled by the Night King ... makes for a much better ending than Brandon "I'm not going to be lord of anything" Lord of the Seven/Six Kingdoms who's name is Stark ...
I binge watched the first 4 seasons of your reactions to GOT and have been following along ever since.
Glad to have been a part of this journey with you guys. On to HOTD.
This isn't my first GoT react but I didn't wanna start another but you two grabbed me and pulled me it and had to watch the whole series with yall again
Yep. I enjoyed your reaction, on many points, and i hold a completely opposite view of the ending from you guys. As expected.
But watching GOT with you has been great, every step of the way and I'll probably do a rewatch.
Thank you so much! You guys are awesome!
Arya: "Whats west of Westeros?" - Your brother is fucking omniscient!?
Also Jon was exiled from the Six Kingdoms. The north isn't included anymore. Sansa could've given her throne to Jon, who was still the King/Warden of the north btw, but she decided to just have her throne...
She wanted to be queen, Jon never wanted to be king, so why would she give him her throne?
But I will say: she could totally let him live freely in the North.
@omniversalnihilist he did see Jon getting born in the Tower of Joy. That thing is in Dorne. No Weirwood trees anywhere near but he was still able to look around.
I think Bran can only see what other people have experienced. Didn't he say something about the Three Eyed Raven being the memory of mankind? I'm not sure....
the north is also an electoral monarchy, not an absolute monarchy, meaning the ruler is chosen from the previous monarch's bloodline by the ruling class, i.e. the northern lords. what makes you think they'd want him back after he gave the north to a foreign invader who then went on to commit genocide?
@@chunglu for a new monarch to be chosen, the old one needs to be dead or overthrown. There is no "selecting a new monarch" when the old one is still exactly that. Jon did not loose his title just by getting captured. Yeah, he was only warden in the north by then, but the warden automatically becomes King if the kingdom gets independent.
But if we go with your logic - Sansa Was believed to have conspired with the Lannisters. She married a Bolton. She was ready to sacrifice both her brothers, heirs of Winterfell, in the BotB to be the hero. What exactly makes you think they would choose her over Jon, who did what he had to do to win against the Undead and save them all, especially as northerners are very loyal in that regard? Remember the north always sticking with whatever mad or not mad ruler sat on the Iron Throne except Aerys for different reasons. There is nothing speaking for Sansa except for bad and out of character writing and cultural disregard for established lore.
Bran knows there is no Night's Watch and Jon prefers the North anyway. Made GreyWorm happy so he can take a hike.
Bran: Thats right Jon. I allowed thousands to die, and your life to be ruined so i could be King. Enjoy the Wall.
Jon became king of the Real north
I think the ending for Sansa and the North made sense.
In the books it's clearer from the start that people of the North would want to get their independence back if it would be possible, they make up like half of Westeros ( south of the wall at least).
Jon was the happiest with the wildlings and in a way they chose him as a leader and went back to live on the other side of the wall now that there's no threat of White Walkers, which also made sense even though I was mad about it.
There are talks about a Jon Snow spin-off series and I think it could be great to see.
The only part that didn't made sense to me was the ironborn seeming to just...accept Independence being granted ONLY to the north, and it's even more nonsensical considering the King is also a Stark from the North
@@juliag6126 I believe the Iron Islands didn't really have agriculture - "We do not sow." Maybe they understood that they really can't completely isolate themselves from the other kingdoms.
Why are you so insistent for Jon to be king? There are so many reasons why he didn't become one:
1) He COULDN'T be king. He was a prisoner and the first order of business for a king would have been to determine his fate. Suggesting Jon as king would have essentially been taken by GW as a complete insult and the one chance to finally bring peace to the ream and not suffer yet another devastating war would have been over.
2) He is a TARG! You know, the dynasty with countless mad kings and queens, one of whom just committed genocide upon the people of KL. Was there anyone in Westeros clamoring for more of THAT? Even Dany's supposed allies did it more out of hating Cersei than anything else. The Targaryens no longer have any real power base in Westeros. Dany was the last smoldering ember of a dying fire.
3) Jon is NOT a good fit for a ruler! He is not a politician. He will do the right thing at any cost, but sometimes the cost is more than the realm can objectively pay, not to mention it's a great way to immediately gain countless enemies. Part of being a ruler is keeping as many people as possible happy. Was sending Jon to the Wall just? Of course not, but Bran saw that this was an acceptable compromise that could finally end the civil war in Westeros and save countless lives. These are the kind of decisions you sometimes have to make as a ruler and Jon manifestly is not able to do such a thing. Going against his honor to kill Dany was already more than enough for him to swallow.
4) Finally, on a thematical level, is the point of the show that people should do good deeds to get rewarded? Because that is what everyone wanted out of Jon's story! But that is not the point of the story, which is that sometimes doing the right thing comes at immense personal sacrifice. Like I said before countless times, people who were looking for cheap wish fulfillment really came to the wrong show.
Was looking for this comment! Thank you!
Nailed it!
Jon fanboys are just too far gone..
When you watch House of the Dragon, you’d realize that if this episode was written correctly, Jon would’ve been burned and maybe eaten by Drogon. Drogon is a dragon, dragons arent loyal to every Targaryen. He wouldve killed Jon for killing his mom.
I looked at the ending as the Starks taking over. Bran is king of the six kingdoms ( him being the three-eyed raven means he will be able to tell if someone is lying to him by seeing things, emotions will not rule him like they did others), Sansa got to be a queen like she always wanted and at the same time brings freedom to her people. Arya is setting out to explore new places and I literally see Jon Snow’s glance back at the wall as the gate closes as confirmation that he’s leading the wildlings to a new home and he will end up as King beyond the wall. He belongs in the REAL north. I know people won’t agree with me and that’s expected. Nobody agrees with everyone. Just my opinion. And rewatching the series multiple times, I’m fine with the ending. Probably one of the few who is.
You are not alone!
Totally with you! Bran needed to be King, because he is the only one not ruled by emotion and/or ego and will be able to make neutral and peacekeeping decisions. Jon would slowly die inside if he would have been king, he didn't want it, his heart and home lies in the North, the true North. Arya needs her freedom, she is doing what she really wants, good for her! And Sansa ist the only possible option left to be queen of the North.
I am fine with the ending. Why getting upset that Jon isn't King, if you know, that this is the last thing he wants and never wanted? Let him be free and live his life the way he always wanted.
Jon is gonna have all that green fertile lands beyond the wall when all the ice melts. With lakes and rivers and direwolves.
Had the same reaction to Bran's coronation lmao...
Yeah if you’re 100% set on Jon being king the. You’ll be mad lol
@avonbarksdale91 no it's dumb regardless. Honestly it should've been Sansa as the Queen Elizabeth I figure at the end of the wars of roses (which inspired GoT in the first place), which is what a lot of us expected as far back as S4/5 and from the books.
Her whole story arc was going from kingdom to kingdom learning the game and she had familial connections/personal bonds to over half of them (a stark from the north, tully blood, married a lannister, with bronn loyal to one and assigned the reach, yara & the greyjoys would've honored it for theon, etc). Regardless of what we've seen Bran do, there was really no reason for the lords to have allegiance to some unknown kid they mostly have never met. There's a reason before historical successions usually the heir is highly visible and did PR basically. This was a dumpsterfire of an ending.
Was there with you guys from the start. It is sad that this crazy-fun journey is now over. Thank you for many hours of entertainment!
"I don't care" that's the correct reaction to this ending hahahaha
Sidenote that final scene when Jon is saying by to everyone Sophie turner and Maisie Williams were so inconsolable they couldn’t get through the scene without breaking down into tears
I don’t really have an issue with how the series wraps up, save for a few details.
One of those I am happy didn’t happen but, no way Jon survives. Grey Worm and both armies brought over would make sure of that.
Cersei and Jamie could have lived if they were standing just 2 feet to the left.
WHY would you think Sansa would want to be queen. All she's cared about for two seasons was what would happen to the north. Christ
It is weird that people walk away with this idea that Sansa was after power when everytime she got any power she tried to give it away. But I think this idea is more because the other characters accused Sansa of this, so the audience starts to believe it as well. They don't see or forget that Sansa suffered along with the North. Everytime Robb won a battle she was beaten. She was sold and violated. She originally wanted to be queen, but not the Ruler. Her dream was always a husband who she would support beside. But she learned what being subservient to another truly means. Sansa suffering represents the north and its people struggles. She is the only Stark who truly fought for her people and their wishes.
Mhmmmm. Sansa is my favourite character so Cody’s comments about her is rubbing me the wrong way lmao. She didn’t care about being queen once she left Kings Landing, she just wanted the North secure and free from rule by horrible assholes in the south. I’m pretty sure all the northerners felt the same considering how huge the north is.
"And who has a better story than Bran the Broken?"
".... what?"
My exact reaction when watching this when it aired.
I still love the show. The end is rushed...and some sad, disappointing things happen.... But as a single piece of art, so much greatness.
I’ve watched ya’lls reaction since season 1 and I feel emotional with you even though I’ve seen the series several times over. Love ya’ll!
Jon literally got the happiest ending. Bran is benevolent and all knowing. Can't think of many better qualities in a ruler.
He has no feelings for anything 😂 that’s not a good ruler that’s big brother
@@gregorille yeah, it absolutely is. Won't make emotional decisions. Completely rational and pragmatic. Thanks for adding that to the list!
@@JasonTerri-eg2vland you can tell in that last scene at the counsel he’s acting more human again. A lot of that pressure is gone.
@@avonbarksdale91 I also think he was doing it somewhat intentionally... I think of Dr. Strange. They have a 1/14mil chance, but if he tells them, it won't play out correctly. People will change their thoughts and actions on the matter. So bran just spaces out and let's things happen as they need to. Once it's over he can be a little more present
Seconds after the last scene, Sansa and Bran be like 'lol they've left. Jon, come back!'.
Tbh I really hated Jon after season 5. They just made him so stupid and meek with absolutely zero drive or ambition. He kept failing upwards. So him not becoming king in the end never bothered me lol.
He lost his entire personality once they went beyond the books + not including lady Stonheart as a warning of what can happen to a resurrected person was dumb.
Let’s go! Running to the bank real quick then I’m back to watch this
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It's not only the unsullied that wanted Jon punished, Yara Greyjoy and Im assuming the new ruler of Dorne would still have supported Daenerys. Not to mention having Jon succeed would bring the realm back under Targaryen rule, the house that built the wheel in the first place and Jon had no right to the North, he is not a Stark, imo he never should have been named KotN but thats another story....
However, his Mother was a Stark, so actually he could have a claim as well.
Sansa didnt do it just to be Queen as in the monarch with power but as the political representative of her people. She watched the Northpeople make Jon King of the North meaning that they wanted their own ruler, then he left to sell the North out to a foreign ruler, she knew they wanted independence and didnt care anymore about being ruled by someone sitting in the south.
Excited to see the live about this later today!!! Will miss these
Jon is leading the Free Folk back to their homes, and Jon will become the new King Beyond the Wall
A few thing. First, comedy: Drogon looked at Jon and said, "You're lucky your my cousin." Then proceeded to melt the Iron Throne into a wheelchair ramp for Bran. Now, the grievances: "Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?" Literally like everyone else at the meeting apart from Edmure! Hell, Tyrion has a better story than Bran! Also, we have to send Jon away because not punishing him would start a war with the Unsullied. The unsullied then proceed to leave esteros for Naath, so why couldn't Jon stay?
The unsullied go to Naath to then die of butterfly fever since none of them are from Naath and have immunities to the butterfly toxin. Brilliant writing D&D
Jon Snow, his true identity. Never wanted to be king. Stark or Targaeryn, he only wanted to prove himself. Once he did, it was all bullshit and more heartbreak. He will always be a wildling.
Sansa fought for the north, Jon fought for Westeros, Sansa fought to get Jon on the throne which you keep wanting, and you want to hate her because it didn't work out ?
Bran, Arya, Jon are alive because Sansa learned her lessons and convinced Jon to fight for Winterfell, Arya went north because her sister and brother got it back, and Sansa removed two enemies to her house, and the north and WRG to LF..Westeros too.