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Varys: "I've always hated the bells, they ring for horror. A dead king, a city under siege"
Davos: "I've never known bells to mean surrender"
@@j_fley6702but only amongst themselves right? The people they're expecting to ring the bells still think like OP
@@j_fley6702they didn’t tell the other side tho 😂
All Dany needed to do was just fly to the red keep and deal with Cersi after taking out the fleet and everything.
@@JasonVanderwyk-91Bravosomething she could have done episodes ago.
@@JasonVanderwyk-91Bravo But the writers didn't want her to because they were all about character assassination.
“I’ve never known bells to mean surrender.” ~ Ser Davos Seaworth, Battle of Blackwater Bay, S2E9
But that's what tyrion and Jamie had decided to do to let them know it meant surrender. It didn't matter what it usually meant. As long as they knew what it meant. Which they did
@@carolinecoy3164 Exactly! Jamie went and rang the bells (or informed the guards to do so). Daenerys knew what is was supposed to mean, that should have been enough.
None of the soldiers knew it would mean surrender
@@kidgforce1 Which doesn't make any difference. Ringing the bells was supposed to stop Daeny's atrack not the soldiers.
he sa
Jamie going back to Cersei was the ultimate speedrun in undoing ten years of character development.
This take disregards Jamie's actual character. Everyone is used to a redemption story where the victims forgive the person looking for redemption and then it's over, but that ignores the actual point of a redemption story is for the person to forgive themselves. While the realm and audience start to forgive Jamie, he still couldn't forgive himself. Actually makes Jamie the most interesting character in the show
I could see it happening, but it was just written and directed wrongly. If they were gonna do that it should've been more with him regretting his decision and upset at himself for not being able to give her up. Instead they almost played it off like, "till the end they still loved one another
Kingslayer Queenslayer, it was all right there.
@@Saphthings I agree, it was the implementation that was messed up. Quite early on in the show, Bronn had asked Jamie, "How do you see yourself dying?" and Jamie replied, "In the arms of the one I love" and so even from way back, the entire framework of his arc was already being set up. But it was how they wrapped up the entire thing that, to me, was lacking -- just like how it is with the rest of the multiple other storylines.
How do you figure? He wanted to die in the arms of the woman he loves
Remember when Daenerys in season 7 wanted to go straight to the Red Keep to kill Cersei and take the throne and Turion was all clever plans just because he wanted to protect his family?
Remember when in season 7 she said she didn't come here to rule over ashes?
I refuse to accept this idiot as Tyrion. For me, Tyrion died from alcohol poisoning somewhere back in season 5.
@@Saphthings That's why I am saying the writing is sooooo stupid!
She just forgot about Euron and his entire nav, forgot she saved half her dothraki and unsullied forces from the fight at winterfell, forgot to spare the innocents, forgot about her own armies still inside the city...smh I can see this for her in the books but much more fleshed out and earned. DnD were just phoning it in
@@esinach I am just answering to what Coddy said in the video. He said that all Daenerys had to do was to fly to the Red Keep and destroy it killing everyone inside. And I replied that Daenerys wanted to do so but Turion convinced her otherwise
Varys tried to poison dany, that’s why he died. the show makes it very unclear though.
‘We’ll try again later’
Ok, koo koo koo
Dude, I watched that episode for like the third time and still missed it. I‘m an idiot
Extremely unclear. I didn't notice till you said it and I've seen it at least 3 times😂😂
Varys´ little bird worked at the kitchen, but Dany didn´t eat.
i believe it the part where varys little bird come into the room and he asks if danny ate @@radiofly3r86
one of the few favorite aspects of the end is that when Dany has the vision of seeing the iron throne back in season 2 or whatever it’s white snow falling but in reality it ends up being ash falling.
It's both ash and snow (you can clearly see icicles in the vision). Dany brought winter to King's Landing. 'Winter is coming' was HER, not the NK.
That made no sense why did it snow in Kings landing at the end of season 7
nah, doubt the dumb and dumber ever thought about that
It would've been cool if it was that, but it's very clealy snow cuz we can see crystals and hear her boot crushing it, well less hear it more read it in subtitles in s2 and I don't think it's just ash as apparently it's all snowy in a few hours and a few minutes means a dragon being covers in snow next ep so I don't think it's supposed to be that clever though it's a nice headcanon to forget this atrocity
@@SerbAtheist that makes no sense at all. There wasn't snow in other places she went? How did she have the power to bring snow,with no mention of it all of a sudden. Snow had already come to kings landing when jamie left to fight the war of the dead remember. It wasn't snow. Just ashes.
Varys was trying to poison Dany and was sending ravens to overthrow her. He got busted and was executed, he basically asked for it. He was a likeable character, but he committed treason. Is she supposed to say, oh you silly man, nice try, go back to work?
Plus I love how the Red Keep collapsed but miraculously, the stairs are left clear of debris, so Cersei can just stroll away! 😂
In a fire or hurricane drill..where do they tell you to go? Lmao
He went to Dany and she didn't listen to him. It's her own fault.
@@sproductionsincBecause instead of consoling her, he urged her to do nothing when everything crumbled around her.
The Mountain was a more unstoppable force of death then the Night King and didn't die from a single stab of a blade. 🤣
All hail the fight king
Right! 🙃
@@robertfishburn8545the “Knight”King lol
The Night King was killed by dragon glass, the ONLY thing that kills him.
@Kolazs Not only did you miss the point, but you got it wrong. It was Valyrian steel.
To be fair, Dany promised Varys she'd burn him alive if he betrayed her. He knew the consequences of his actions but he was willing to accept them for what he believed was the greater good. It's not Tyrion's fault.
Fair point. She did warn him.
However, he did go to her and tell her what he thought, and she ignored him.
I forget. Do we know who Varya was writing to? Was it the Maesters at the Citadel? Also, did Dany know he was trying to poison her food or did she execute him due to his betrayal of writing to people about Jon? I was always a little unclear.
Vayrs went from one of the smartest character in the show, the man who orchestrated SO much and survived multiple reigns...to do a jobber level of trying to kill Danny and just admit willingly that yes...he's a traitor.
Yep and Varys even promised that he'd always be honest with her. But he still betrayed her.
Granted, Tyrion shouldn't have told Varys, and Sansa shouldn't have told Tyrion.
The whole army respawn
The northern army the dothraki all respawn, realistically no one but dorne and maybe iron islands and vale should have an army and the later ones too should've very small ones
@@harshahir3176the vale army was there
Which army respawn? Dany had 50k Dothraki and 8k Unsullied at Winterfell. Plus, the Northern and Vale armies. That's close to 70k troops. Somewhere around 10k show up at King's Landing. That's about 60k lost in Episode 3. 10k troops plus a Dragon was obviously more than enough.
@@jakejones8032
Dumb and dummer: what we see is the end of the dothraki in this battle.
@@jakejones8032 The Dothraki. The ones we watched charge the army of the undead and die almost to a man. Somehow they are back in numbers
About the Dothraki: "Didn't they all die?"
According to the showrunners in the after-the-episode for episode 3, yes.
Yep they said, it was essentially the end of the Dothraki
@@tianna1116 and then Grey Worm said "half are gone"
@@BazookaGamingGirl oh really? I don’t remember that, but yea it got so messy at the end who knows
"He's in love with her."
"When???"
Exactly. They really wimped out on romance, i never believed they were in love. They kept telling us, not showing us.
Jon season 8 recap: "She's my queen", " i dun wan it, i never ave"
He is basically Hodor now.
Seriously! That was SO annoying to me!
a ma qwun, ae dun wu ae, y nae aeev
it upsets me SO much because dany and jon have so many parallels and them meeting would have been epic but d&d decided to make jon boring AF
that is NOT my jon neither is anyone this season and some of last season
idk who these imposters are
jon came back from death and somehow ended up more boring ?????
makes NO sense
@@nightfrost1891 He was always boring. Like Ned. All the "good" characters are.
Are u guys watching House of the Dragon after, cause I’d be so excited if u are!
They said that they will watch it
Hope it gets better in season 2 , is a bit gloomy and not many laughs or witty characters.
@@emucat1 I hope so and I think so too, it felt to me like a dramatic telenovela with a little bit of dragons in it 😂
Not sure if you picked up on it but at the beginning when varys was talking to the young girl they were talking about how varys was trying to poison daenaerys
I didn't catch it the first time either, but I think it was insinuated that Varys was poisoning Dany's food. He was meeting in secret with his little bird to see if she was eating. If Tyrion got wind of that, as her Hand, he's obligated to warn Dany.
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The reason Tyrion told Danny about Varis is because he was trying to poison her using the little girl that delivers the food but Danny wasn’t eating.
I think Dany wanted to go against Tyrion's plan from the start, after Missandai's death. "Enough with the clever plans," she said before. In her mind, every time she listened to him, things go wrong, so my guess here is that she chose to completely do the exact opposite and "be a dragon."
Well if she didn’t listen to him and just went straight for Cercei and Red Keep in S7, instead of Tyrion convincing her otherwise with his failed plans things would have acc been better but he wanted to protect his family. She could have just went for the castle S7.
@@Nattiie Danny wanted to win the ppl initially and be successful like she was in Essos where you also notice that she never used her dragons to burn their cities or castles to the ground.
Unfortunately for her, she didn’t listen to lady Olenna or follow the example of her ancestor Aegon the Conquerer to take over Westeros. She was inexperienced and often loses her temper to stupid stuff which further clouded her judgement.
@@seeenoooh yes but then she was left alone, unloved, betrayed and mourning with no one by her side but Grey Worm- her war champion. A Targaryen alone in the world is a terrible thing… Holding the biggest power in the world and mind littered with revengeful fury. She destroyed the very city her ancestor Aegon created. The castle his son build. All the stories she heard since she was born were finally there. She had a vision of a world, “breaking the wheel” no more idiotic or insane family nonsense who rules over everyone. Now the person who rules will be chosen -another civilisation as great as old Valyria, and she wanted this for everyone in the whole world. That was the future basically, our present. Now how she would have gotten there hopefully not like in Kings Landing. But I think that place was just more personal and emotional for her Targaryen blood.
It was Rhaegal who died last episode. The Night King killed Viserion.
Rhaegal, rode by Aegon Targaryen(Jon), son of Rhaegar.
wanna comment on your comment about Jon
Jon: lied to Mance, Tormund, Ygritte, and all the wildlings to gain information for the Night's watch
s7-8 Jon: LYING BAD, MA QUEEN
So true
He lied to ennemies to get info and so Quorin halfhand didnt sacrifice himself for nothing, people like you remembering only what they want to remember are hilarious, bad faith at its finest xD
@@bmaxime8771 i remember canon quite well, thank you, both from the series, and the books.
how is lying and befriending enemy in holding Quorin’s sacrifice different from lying to Cercei in order to defeat White Walkers and Others? please do explain
@@jsanderson3825 he didnt even really lie to the wildlings, he just said what he had to to survive and get back to the nights watch, its different than making an official vow in front of witnesses to break it after, its not that hard to understand really xD
@@bmaxime8771 so you’re forgetting Jon also broke the Night’s Watch vows?
lets break it down real simple:
1. both causes ensure survival, if not for Jon, then for people he took responsibility of when he became the king in the North. why does he act different in similar circumstances?
2. he swore an oath to the Night’s Watch, and yet broke that oath, he layed with Ygritte. he quit the Night’s Watch, breaking another part of the oath (although that is, I admit, is questionable, since he died, but still - if Jon is that honorable as you think he is, he should have rejected the title of a king in the North)
3. Cercei expected him to simply stay out of the conflict, not fight against Daenerys, so he should have been able to think it through as a reasonable offer
also, Jon did not say he wanted to get back to the Night’s Watch neither to Mance, nor to Ygritte or others. He said he wanted to fight for the side that fights for the living, if we are quoting, meaning that he pledged himself to Mance’s cause.
You guys' think you're pissed about Varys' ending, I recommend looking up Conleth Hill (Varys' Actor) reacting to his lazily written exit. Sums it up pretty well.
I was hoping yall would pick up on the fact that the shot of Dany flying over kings landing, right before she started burning it , was the exact vision Bran saw in the woods!
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Why?
“We haven’t seen Arya do that in a minute”
It’s funny that Arya spends like 2 seasons learning the face stuff and only uses it TWICE
Cersei said in season 2 : they said every time targaryen is born the gods flips a coin
Lord varys season 8 : I still don't know how her coin has landed but i'm quite certain about yours
They also said that half Targaryens went mad which is not true only like 5 of them did and only 1 king
One of my observations was the farther away Jamie got from Cercei the darker his hair got. Like the Toxic gold washed out.
na he just wanted to stop dying his hair, remember tyrions awful dye job in the pilot episode 😂
To Varys's betrayal, evan the dog was: "Naaah, I'm gone."
PS: Now that I watch it for the gazillionth time, where did Drogon have so much oil supply? That fire is like 20 Boeings worth lol
Maybe he fished up and ate Rhaegal for a power up
Sometimes I feel like I was the only person watching GoT that wanted Dany to fall and become The Mad Queen 😅 so many people seemed upset that she snapped
If you pay attention it’s the only thing that makes sense, she’s heading in that direction the whole time. All her big scenes people cheer her on for, she’s doing objectively horrific things whether they are to “bad” people or not. For example leaving Dorea and Xaro in the empty vault to starve in Quarth. That’s vicious. Watching the Dorthaki horse lords all burn to death in front of her as she stood in the the room unable to burn until the doors fell in Vaes Dathak. Crucifying the masters without knowing the dynamics of who was responsible and who wasn’t. Again, showing she didn’t understand the culture of the place she’d come to just like when she comes to Westeros. There are so many more instances.
Me too. I knew by the end of season one she would do it. I would have been disappointed if Dany hadn't burned the city. They've been consistently building her character in that direction the whole series.
I too thought she would become the villain and was excited for it. The only complaint I have is that season 8 wasn't long enough or divided into 2 seasons.
i dont have a problem with her becoming mad, but i have a problem with the way writers rushed it
@@valerievaysman3993 yep maybe season 8 being all about the war in the north and a season 9 with the fall of dany. But we got what we got and I'd rather have that than nothing :)
They ruined Danearyus so badly. She went from being awesome to a crazy power-hungry tyrant. And Cersi's death was so unsatisfying.
"I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror."
-Varys
Edit: I'm glad you recognized that there were hints of what Dany was capable of since I think that's something a lot of people tend to either forget or ignore about her. She is and has always been capable of doing horrible things but, until recently, those horrible things were done to horrible people. She's also not good at dealing with loss.
When she lost Drogo and her child, she had the witch who was responsible burned alive. When she was betrayed in Qarth and, for a time, lost her dragons, she burned the one who took her dragons and locked the two betrayers in a vault to starve to death. She killed and burned many slavers in Slaver's Bay and even crucified the ones in Meereen. Later, when the sons of the Harpy killed Barristan, she forced the head members from each of Meereen's royal families to face her dragons until said dragons burned and devoured one of them.
As soon as she arrived in Westeros, things started going downhill for her fast. She quickly lost all of her allies there and just about accused Tyrion of treason when he still suggested they continue with a siege. She then wanted to abandon all subtlety and fully unleash her dragons despite knowing what the cost would be. She did hold back by using only one against the Lannister forces, but then used terror to force them to submit to her after burning Tarly and his son alive. Soon after she suffered one of her greatest losses when the Night King killed one of her dragons.
Now, in this final season, she's lost Jorah, her most loyal knight and the one who's followed her longer than any of the others, another one of her dragons, who she views as her children, Missandei, her last real friend who was once again chained in the final moments of her life, Jon Snow, while he still remains loyal to her has closed his heart to her after realizing the two are family, and Varys, who abandoned her after realizing she was a lost cause.
I agree that Dany was always cruel but her character was unrecognizable after season 6... I'm not talking about this episode but the last two seasons.
Thanks for outlining all this. Dany's downfall was telegraphed long ago with signs of it in just about every season. Bread crumbs were sprinkled around the show that started with "When a Targaryen is born, a coin is flipped." The audience wanted to believe otherwise, but Dany lost the flip. All it took was enough trauma and loss to reveal it.
Your putting no context into that though. She burned the witch who poisoned her husband and sacrificed her unborn child's life. She locked up the man who tried to sell her to the warlocks inside the vault of wealth he promised her and didn't have along with the handmaiden that betrayed her. She burned the warlock who was trying to enslave her and her dragons to power themselves. She crucified Slave Masters because they had crucified over a hundred slave children on her walk to Mereen. She executed two men who refused to submit to her, which is something many kings and rulers and conquerors have done. Her actions are not outside the actions that other rulers have taken.
Also her entire time spent in Westeros has been a travesty honestly and it mostly comes down to horrible decisions and ideas from her advisors. Varys at one point starts trying to poison her for... reasons? Tyrion's advice and suggestions have been generally dreadful. In helping Jon the foolish she lost a dragon. The death of her second dragon by the Greyjoys was horrible writing. She should have honestly moved directly to Kings Landing once she hit land. Tyrion knows the secret passage ways through the castle, that could've snuck in soldier. But no, he hamstrung her and her efforts.
@@nyxqueen5417yeah her actions have been valid and justified. It can't be done perfectly because you can't please everyone but she done it the best way she knew how and her intentions were good. I love dany, she got done dirty and tbh she went about it the best way when experiencing severe trauma in the situation. She restrained herself a lot and sometimes it comes to a boiling point but doesn't deem someone as crazy. Can't write someone off for 1 mistake when they've done so much good
All that build up, and the Lanister Army was defeated in like 20 minutes.
Not to mention the Golden Company…
Well yeah. She has a dragon. Y’all complain about everything.
What can a medieval army do against a dragon? If she had all three of them, they'd all melt in 5 mins.
@@EMANUGARC Is that so? She had two of them when the Iron Fleet murdered one of them and forced her to flee, suddenly she can burn the entire fleet in a few minutes 😂
@@SirKolass uhm yes she destroyed all the scorpions. If the scorpions didn’t exist she could’ve taken out every army in minutes just like she did these. Why do you think none of the armies fought Aegon the conqueror and his sisters dragons? You sound dumb lol
Never understood people being mad at Dany for killing Varys. That was the most deserved death in his case. He already tried to kill her once. She trusted him again just because of Tyrion. And here comes Tyrion saying yeah Varys betrayed you. And we are like 😮. She killes him. Whaaaaaaaat?
Right, plus he was trying to poison her this episode
People are more annoyed his character was that dumb
at least he died doing what he loved: being right
I can't speak for others but I've never been mad at Dany. I'm mad at the writers for turning the cunning, spymaster Varys into an idiot with no self preservation. He never attempted to assassinate a literal crazy man, a drunk, or a sadist but for some reason Dany being sad is enough for him to risk his life by brazenly commit treason while on a difficult to escape island. Unbelievable.
In a video of the table reading, the actor who plays Varys was PISSSSED when he learned how his character was going out
Targaryen’s, Dany, held power in their hands a man never should have played with. Her being completely alone, betrayed by everyone and no one by her side but Grey Worm, her WAR champion. Both wanting revenge. Sitting on that dragon looking at the Keep, seeing it represented everything she lost, all her family built, & where she lost her family, who took her dragons, the people she loved. She helped the North and got betrayed in return while she also lost her Dragon for them. I’m not surprised she flipped- I’m surprised she suffered those consequences so fast while we had Joffrey for like 4 seasons.
Real and true. Real and true. I never looked at it from that perspective. How tf did we get to suffer with joffre for 4 seasons, but they unloaded on her in less than 1...
I have the answer but people don't like that it ends in ny
The north didnt betray her, the f are you even talking about xD Everything to justify mass murders of civilians, looking at the comments i'm glad y'all are not in positions of power, you would do some fucked up shit
But let’s be real, she coulda flown straight to the Red Keep in season 7 and ended this shit…the entire premises of the last two seasons was pretty lame. I know there’s no show if she’s decisive right away but this is what’s tough with writing for OP characters.
There’s an amazing bit of CleganeBowl foreshadowing by Arya. At one point she tells the Hound, “Someday, I’m going to put a sword through your eye and out the back of your skull.” Which is the last thing the Hound tries with the Mountain before jumping out of the Keep with his brother. I always thought the way they shot the Mountain getting stabbed was just for the wow factor until watching your 3x9 reaction and hearing her say that line again and have been waaiiiiting for this episode to drop the comment 😂.
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"If you think this has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention."
Its called fulfilled promises in Literature. At least the main protagonist need a satisfying end. This wasnt.
I don’t mind unhappy endings if it makes sense and are aligned with the plot buildup. Ned’s death, red wedding, shireen’s death were all (extremely) depressing moments but it was a possible outcome that are aligned with the plot and character choices at that time. Dany triggered by a bell killing hundreds of innocents and bran becoming king are not. If they spend more time building up Dany’s mental breakdown, I don’t think people will have a problem with it as much as they did.
Everyone saying ‘there were signs of her being insane the whole series’ is wrong. She was always kind at her heart. She wanted to free people and let them live happily, just like her brother Rhaegar. It was the show writers who thought that was too predictable and they ‘kind of forgot about’ everything previous seasons had set up in character development. Jamie’s character did a 180, so dis Dany’s and Jon just looks like he has no clue what’s going on. It’s wild how drastically this show slipped without GRRM to write the plot for them
She is such a sweetheart in the books, too. They got it so wrong, because tbqh D&D hate powerful women. I never, ever liked Cersei but the way people react to her demise disgusts me completely. Rather than Dany, I think the real psychos out there are some of the so-called 'fans.'
I have to be fair. Upon rewatch, every character knew off screen exactly what she was going to do. The viewer is suprised, but if you noticed, everyone in the episode knew.
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some reactions to this episode have always been funny to me. dany has been burning people alive and torching cities for seasons, but suddenly it's shocking? the only difference now is you see it from the ground, not the dragon, and the people she's roasting aren't all faceless background characters or underdeveloped moustache-twirling villains. she's been on-board with conquering/murdering people since she got aroused listening to her warlord husband vow to do just that back in s1, and people still believed her the good guy? the woman with a god complex who believes she's owed adoration, as a foreign invader, and who was only kept in check by advisors? they think this was sudden? wild lol
Nah, it wasn’t her turning bad. It was a sloppy means to do a shocking moment. She was brutal and ruthless to serve goals that she wanted (eg, burning the witch, Astapoor, etc). This was killing a city at the point of total victory for what exactly? Cuz she wasn’t welcomed? C’mon, she stopped sexual violence of Greyjoys and tried to save children. This was just lazy rushed writing…it woulda been mad cool if they did a Walter White level heel turn but the showrunners weren’t built for it.
@@Melodicroger it wasn't shocking, that was my point, but i'm not going to debate you about it
@@Melodicroger 'She was brutal and ruthless to serve goals that she wanted (eg, burning the witch, Astapoor, etc).'
Ah, okay, so as long as you WANT stuff, then it's okay to be brutal and ruthless towards other people.
'This was killing a city at the point of total victory for what exactly? '
The answer is simple, nasty and obvious: So that no one dare challenge her ever again.
@@SerbAtheist that would be your interpretation bc it certainly wasn’t shown on her face when she “flipped” bc bells. I don’t mind a dark turn but the show didn’t put in the work.
I appreciate the perspective but the majority of how the conclusion of the series was handled was so spectacularly negative it led to the show runners have a full career reset.
One of my co-workers said don't feel bad for the people at King's Landing... They were the same ones cheering at Ned's execution 😂😂😂
That doesn't make it ok to kill them
#1 thats not an excuse...Especially since they had NO CLUE about what was the hell even going on betweem Cersei & Dany. She just came out of nowhere and slaughtered a whole city of innocent civilians
#2 Those ppl cheered cuz they believed what the Lannisters was TELLING them. Remember Ned didn't even get to speak of have a fair trial. So no, that doesn't mean they deserved to die
I can tell yall haven't seen AOT, kill or be killed use the power you have or it'll be used on you. Imagine cersi had dragons should destroy her entire enemy forces, why shouldn't danerys
Ned was on trial, literally admitting to treason against the crown, in front of an executioners block. I think the cheering people get a pass on that one.
stupid thought process, people cheering for Ned's execution had no clue about the plots and the fact that he wasnt a traitor, all they new was the official version, Ned is a traitor and plotted to take power. Daenerys Fanbois are hilarious
This might be my favorite episode of the show. Like, I understand why it was so disliked at first. It truly hurts to see our heroes fall short of our expectations but that feels so realistic to me. I also love the way this episode reframes the entire conflict. All of a sudden, our heroes are the villains, and the villains are victims. It feels like the classic subversion that this show does so well. I also like how Jon's parentage is used not to save the world but to doom it. In any other traditional fantasy, the "secret prince who saves the world" trope would leas to a happy ending. In Game of Thrones it leads to death and destruction.
I understand why this might put people off but to me, it's exactly why I love Game of Thrones.
Crazy rewatching this now, realizing they totally did foreshadow this ending. Dany left a trail of fire and bloody bodies wherever she went, ultimately. In some places she tried different methods for peace, different levels of violence, but in the end she left after setting everything on fire and killing nearly everyone.
Ser Jaime Lannister did some horrible things. He himself knows he's not a saint. I do believe he had honour like Ned Stark, because after he lost his hand he became more humble and a favourite to many as well as myself. The only Lannister from King's Landing to aid the living at Winterfell, looked out for Tyrion, saved Brienne. He did good things. My heart broke losing Ser Jorah, Lord Beric, and the Hound. Ser Jaime's death hurt so much more on so many different levels. He was a good man. And he died the way he wanted to, in the arms of the woman he loved.
Mad King: burn them all
Daenerys: say no more
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The bells will have much more significance in the books most likely... A book character had a traumatic experience involving bells during Robert's Rebellion and that could play a role in the battle for King's Landing.
Wait another 12 years.
funny to think that Qyburn's scorpions, with dragonglass tips, would have ended the night's king in a minutes at winterfell
They spent months(?) mining dragonglass but clever Tyrion didnt think to scoop up some wildfire before heading North?
Emilia Clarke cried when she read the script and saw what Danaerys ends up doing. She didnt like it af all but still did a damn good job acting with what she was given.
She actually didn't get to read the final script. They changed it on her and she didn't find out until the premiere, she said. The writers also said they kept her from seeing the new storyboards, too. In the original script, Dany only burned the solders which accidentally set off the wildfire underneath the city, left over from the Mad King, which killed the innocents. The VFX artists had to go in last minute, change all the green to dragon fire, and also add in the dragon flying around. It's why she doesn't go directly to the Red Keep and also why there are never any shots of Dany flying on the dragon while she's burning the city. She also said in an interview that at the time, she was confused as to why Kit was playing Jon as being so angry with her in the last episode because she was still playing it as Dany setting the wildfire off unintentionally. Very weird last minute choices by the creators.
10:28 - "I will act in the interest of the innocent no matter the personal costs to myself."
Varys was a real one.
True G for the people the ENTIRE SERIES.
RIP Medevil Bernie Sanders ❤
Varys was going to have her poisoned. That’s why she had him burned to death, even though she should have been killed.
Kings Landing got exactly what they deserved. Varys got exactly what he deserved. Daenerys was betrayed at every turn by her advisors and the man she loved, given horrible advice that contradicted all logic and led to the death of her dragon and closest fried and ultimately millions more dead then if she'd just immediately stormed Kings Landing like she wanted to. She never did a single thing wrong, and THATS the tragedy of GoT. The characters who did it all right are the ones who lose in the end. Ned lost his head, Robb lost everything, Dany went mad, Jon sent back into exile. Thats the whole point of the show imo, there is no pretty happy ever after. Good people lose and die and the ones who hid behind them wind up winning. This episode isnt trying to show you Daenerys is bad, its showing you no one good ever wins in this story. Even Daenerys lost it all in the end.
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Oh wow i didnt expect this episode so soon yayy
Daenarys is the victim of crap writing, nothing more.
She has been betrayed, lost her best friends, her best advisors, two of her children and so many of her soldiers.
So now she is on the way to becoming what Olena Tyrell urged her to be.
A Dragon.
So don't judge her harshly.
And think of the hundreds of thousands of freed slaves in Essos.
What will become of them without the Breaker of Chains. The one, the only, Dragon Queen.
'Fire and Blood.'
This episode is the ultimate FU to people who revel in cruelty.
It's very indicative that after 8 seasons of this show carefully showing us how not every 'good guy' is good and not every 'bad guy' is bad, people still have the gall to cheer at the sight of conscripted soldiers being burned alive whose only crime was being an adult male at the wrong time and place and defending their city from a foreign invader.
'Oh, it's soldiers, they're supposed to die.'
Oh, okay! I guess that means reveling in their death and having no empathy whatsoever is the completely appropriate response! But then of course when Dany turns her ire to the 'innocent' everyone huffs and puffs indignantly.
'But it's just a show.'
Yes, it's 'just a show' (so why are you foaming at the mouth so much at the final season then?), but it's astounding how much people carry over this attitude in real life. It's this belief that violence can be so compartmentalized which leads to so much war and suffering. 'Oh, let's go to war as our first option! We'll only get the bad guys and be greeted as liberators! We'll limit our 'collateral damage''.... funny how it almost NEVER works out this way!
Youre only virtue signaling because youre a Dany hater
@@09hicktown Yeah, I'm a Dany hater, guilty as charged! I hate power-hungry sociopaths with a messianic complex.
@@09hicktown you're only crying because you're a christina columbus dragon barbie stan. tragic.
This could only end like this.
Madness runs deep in the Targaryen and Jon was only spared because of his upbringing, being an underdog and having to carve his own path.
Daenerys for all her initial virtues and promise, grew up with the idea that she was meant to rule, even when her brother was alive. She was fed the idea that she was almost divine.
In the end, the loss of Missandei, the dragons and the growing paranoia about Jon and that everyone around her was an obstacle to her divine destiny, pushed her over the edge to the same madness that killed her father.
It could only end this way.
I would have been fine with the Mad Queen arc, but season 8 was so rushed that it didn't work as welll as it should have. Night king done in a single episode, Dany turning into the Mad Queen in a single episode. Everyone seemingly having teleportation powers, because of the rushed season. There should have been 2 more seasons at least.
The Greyjoys kinda forgot how to aim with the scorpions this episode
It took me some years after the show to gain perspective on Jamie. I was sooooo pissed at him for leaving Brienne standing in the cold in a HOUSECOAT! So very mad. But then I thought about it. Brienne taught him loyalty and honor. That learned lesson is why he came to Winterfell even after Cersei copped out. Even though we hate to see him leave Brienne that way, ultimately, he was honoring the vows he’d always said to Cersei. I think he went back to Cersei more out of duty but he actually loved Brienne.
I agree. I think he also knows Brienne will be fine on her own (although I did picture a wonderful future for Brienne and Jamie).
Cersei, on the other hand, is alone, vulnerable and will likely die. He wants to be by her side. Maybe hopes to save her. But al least he wants to be by her side if she dies.
At first I was going to comment on Varys and why he deserved what he got. Then I was going to talk about Dany and why it all went down the way it did. But I see other comments have made my points so I’ll talk about Jon instead.
Jon has NEVER wanted to be king of ANYTHING. Even before he went to Dragonstone, even before he met Dany. The ppl of Winterfell named him King. He never lobbied for it, never asked for it, never wanted it. All he wanted was to serve his ppl and he served as best he could. His aversion to ruling has nothing to do with his “undying love” for Dany. His feelings for her ceased romantically the moment he found out they were related. He wasn’t raised to sleep with his family members. It was never going to work out for them.
The show runners should have let the show play out at its normal pace, then maybe some of what happened would make more sense to ppl. But unfortunately they had other projects and were in a hurry to finish GOT. They let the story slip out from under them. Due to how horrific these last two seasons were, especially the last one, they didn’t get to work on their projects anyway. Ofc they didn’t think about that, just like they didn’t think about how all of this would look to us - the fans. It was very selfish of them and I’ll never forgive them for it.
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Inside the Red Keep there is another moated fortress called Maegor Holdfast. It is a castle within a castle.
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Already episode 5? You guys keep 'em coming fast. Thank you! This episode sees the the death of my favourite character of the show. Sandor Clegane - The Hound. I wish he would have made it out alive. But we all knew that he was destined to die - at least he finally took revenge on his brother. It was also sad to see Varys go out like that. It was still an entertaining episode of course. But: Daenerys turning bad was not a suprise. But as many others said before: It was just rushed and came too sudden - they needed to pack the whole transition in only a few episodes. It would be alright if played out a bit longer and smoother. I also didn't like it to be so inconsistent. Suddenly Eurons fleet was an easy target - after being unbeatable with two dragons. Now easy task with only one. And suddenly all the Scorpions were useless...
Your guys frustration perfectly encapsulates what all of us die hard fans felt with these last few episodes. They took one of the greatest shows in the history of television, and really screwed it all up.
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8:22 Yes! Cody! I completely agree! Jon just immediately fell in love with Dany when she saved them in the North and she sacrificed a dragon for him. That guilt started the "love" he felt for her. It just seemed WAY TOO FAST, like Rob & Talisa.😢 Dany's arc was truly visible back in season 3. People just didn't want to see it.
She literally was screaming about burning King's Landing to the ground as early as Season 2. The books make it more clear, as she blames the people for "allowing" her family to be killed and a "usurper" taking over the throne. She also hates the Starks, with a passion, because they helped Baratheon. Regardless of how Selmy tries to tell her they're good people, she shuns him & says they're all complicit. She's an evil bitch from the getgo. Not to mention, in the show, Jon is the one who has the claim, not her, and SHE is the actual usurper. Her own brother would have murdered her himself for doing what she did in telling Jon to shut up about his parentage so she could take the power. She's vile.
I guarantee, even Viserys, who was a jerk, would have bent the knee to Jon had he lived. He was very loyal to family lines and would have been livid himself over Dany's behavior.
@@courtneylconover80 never thought I'd stand up for the Viserys from season 1 but you're actually right!
All her advisors dead, disloyal, or withdrawn she punished those she saw as enemies. For reference look to Dresden, Hamburg, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Carthage, etc. imagine how all those parents who named their daughters, Kaleesi.
I was ESTATIC when the bells were rung.....but then my joy turned to ashes in my mouth lol....
“She didn’t want them to surrender” EXACTLY she wanted to get revenge for her found family she lost because of all those who told her that if she attacked hundreds of thousands would die when in reality she could have taken the city without bloodshed in season 7 and she had lost nothing at that point so she would have no reason to kill the small folk
26:15 'This is f-ing ridiculous!'
Ah, why so sad now? You were enjoying the sight of people being burned alive so much in the first half of the episode.
In the immortal words of Russel Crowe: ''Are you not entertained?''
Arya calling the Hound "Sandor" freaking makes me bawl like a baby
They missed that in the edit. I thought it was the best part of the episode.
Same.
@Steve-eh4db me too. It totally completed their relationship.
Great idea (her turn to The Mad Queen); horrendous execution. What was originally a painstakingly crafted series was screwed over by speed run to the finish line.
Jamie and Cersei, Danny going mad, Grey Worm killing without remorse, Clegane Bowl-many characters ended up being who they were from the start.
moral of the story , absolute power corrupts ..
it didnt matter who was on iron throne , it was about to happen .
I would've done the same thing as Dany, but WAY sooner lmao
Yeah me too
You would have burnt civilians? Nah, just go for the Red Keep
should've done the second day she set foot to Dragonstone
A lot of the same civilians who were happy and screaming for Ned Starks head.
@@reginaphalange30So you think the civilians deserved to get burned alive? Did they know he was not a traitor of the realm??? No!
As far as they knew, he was a confessed traitor! Many Dany fans are really blinded!
Some proper epic moments for sure.
In my headcanon the Hound survives the fight with his brother, gives up violence and becomes a foul-mouthed priest like Brother Ray and Thoros.
Varys did betray Dany, and she did tell him she'd kill him if he betrayed her. Don't have a problem with that. I liked Drogon getting revenge , even with his upgrades. Other than that though...
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Cody saying “rip Viserion” when it was Rhaegal who died last😭
I know it’s not a popular opinion, but Jaime and Cersei got a good death for their characters. They deserved a nice scene in the end for 8 seasons of being the best and most consistently interesting characters on the show
The funniest part to me is how the dragon fire somehow makes everything explode all of a sudden.
It does? Why wouldn’t it also they had wildfire under the city
@Lm-hm3kj Wildfire is green when it ignites. Also there was no mention of it being everywhere. Even the front gate just exploded. Balerion, a much much larger dragon, melted Harrenhal with its fire but Drogon shoots scud missiles out of his mouth. Forget about melting the stone. He completely disintegrated it. It's the Michael Bay method.
@@thatsmyassbrostop Wildfire being hidden everywhere around the city is mentionned quite a few times !
@bmaxime8771 Then none of it ever got used. Wildfire has always been green in the entire show. There were no green flames in this episode. Only dragonfire. It clearly wasn't meant to be wildfire. It also wouldn't make any sense to hide any inside of the front gate of the city when dragons are attacking lol. This was just explosions for the sake of the visuals, even if it defies their own lore.
I know. Seeing dragon fire explode walls and cut through an entire tower of the red keep like a lightsaber when just two episodes prior a rock was able to protect Jon was ridiculous 😂
That said, you can actually see a few small explosions with green flame here and there in this episode. I imagine it's just random small caches hidden and forgotten about that was ignited by Drogon's own exploding fire.
Great reaction guys. Can't wait to see what you guys think of the final episode!
Dany did what she had to do. As for her going mad, you can only lose so much and be betrayed so much before going crazy.
She embraced the Dragon.
Also Arya’s plot armor is so dumb. How does she not die there. Makes no sense
What she always planned on doing from the beginning - ignoring everyone telling her not to kill the people she believed were complicit - and going full Mad King, burning them all. As she's said she intended since season 2. Repeatedly.
Dany and Varys swore to each other in season 7 that if he betrays and Plots against Dany, “she’ll burn him alive” like Ned stark said, the man who passes the sentence shall swing the sword. Which Dany did. Plus Varys tried to poison her, that why the little girl was saying “she won’t eat” and Varys, “we will try again tomorrow, greater risk greater reward”. how is Dany supposed to be “stable” when all her advisors are committing treason, including Tyrion and Jon
Because SHE was the vile usurper, telling the real heir to the throne to shut up about his parentage so SHE could take all the power that was never hers to begin with. All she ever gave a shit about was that damn chair. Just like Cersei.
Dany told Varys that if she was failing to tell her to face and not try to plot against her or he would die. That’s exactly what happened 🔥 Also he was trying to poison her. But na it’s just lazy and bad writing.
The music is undeniably the best thing about this final series it’s goosebump inducing
reliving how mad this episode made me when it came out😭
It is true it's difficult to explain why Daenerys massacred everyone when she could have simply flown straight towards Cersei and killed only her
For Tyrion who betrayed Varys, in fact it was already suggested in the previous episode that Varys intended to kill Daenerys because he considered her dangerous. At the beginning of this episode, when Varys is talking to the little girl who works in the kitchen, it's implied Varys wanted to poison Daenerys. This is why Tyrion decided to report Varys to Daenerys, because at that moment, he remained convinced Daenerys was going to do what was right but obviously, that was not the case
Difficult? Half the people truly wanted to do the same after the end of E4. It's not difficult at all. The only thing that is difficult to explain is how much people ignored Dany's red flags for so long. Main hero syndrome at it's finest.
Yeah it's always difficult to interpret bad writing with logic love
@@SerbAtheist FINALLY SOMEONE SAID THAT.
no because she heard bells and had to go crazy because it's some trigger of hers suddenly LOLOLOLOL
Which red flags? When she crucified 150 slavers (some of whom were innocent, which sheacknowledged) or when she abandoned her quest for the throne to save the world? How do you go from that to murdering half a million innocents after having won? People who try to rationalize Danys sudden turn has to be some of the smuggest and dumbest people alive, claiming to have seen some "red flags" everyone else has been to stupid to see. She goes from freeing and helping innocents for 6 seasons to burning half a million innocents for NO reason, its horrible writing and a horrible ending, stop trying to defend it@@SerbAtheist
Everybody being mad about the bells ringing to mean surrender: have you ever thought about that Tyrion wanted to let them ring the bells, cause he knew they might ring them anyway for "city under siege" even though the surrender-message didn't go through? Either way it was supposed to make Dany think the City surrendered, no matter for what reason the bells were ringing.
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I will say that the last episode of the series, the first half, is cinematic and beautifully photographed, just stunning.
After the final you should react to the cast talking about season 8 and their reaction at the script read “BeSt SeAsOn EvEr” 😂
The thing that bugs me the most about the last season is travel time. All the other seasons it takes a while to travel anywhere. This season, everyone teleports.
People say the last season should have had at least 2 more episodes, I have to agree!
They teleported a lot, especially Varys
Bran really frustrates me by not saying anything, but I also think that as the 3-eyed Raven he can't really interfere in people's choices, like when he told Jon it was his choice to tell his sisters or not.
Also, the problem with Jon is that he is so obsessed with keeping his word (like Ned), that it's their downfall. His devotion to Dany is part love, part honouring his word.
I also feel like Sandor's words to Arya brought back part of who she was before she became a ruthless killer, which I like. She is still badass, but also more herself.
And that is the amazing writing of two guys who were done with game of thrones who had been working on another project that got turned down by HBO, who just wanted GOT to be over … GOT was not their passion to make shows was their passion and this project had turned into a decade of the same o thing they should of done the right thing and turned it over to someone else who actually cared
Oof - this one's a biggie. Thanks for the videos; it's been great 👍