Exploring Several Cases of Lost Paleo Media

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  • @toonrex2806
    @toonrex2806 4 місяці тому +55

    Man, finding lost dinosaur media is like searching for actual dinosaur fossils.

  • @DeadMansParty
    @DeadMansParty 4 місяці тому +43

    Thanks for covering Cruel Eden, I hope that someday we could get that novel back! I think it’s also a good example of why physical media is still important.

  • @jaredthehawk3870
    @jaredthehawk3870 4 місяці тому +16

    I actually remember watching "The World's First Predators." I remember it portraying a litteral race between a human, a cockroach, and a snail as stand ins for the competing lines of predation, between vertebrates, arthropods, and cephalopods. Also it used the phrases mega bugs and super snails.

  • @LordBumblebee1238
    @LordBumblebee1238 4 місяці тому +17

    I remember watching the Killer Dinosaurs one on DVD, with the surprising outcomes being the Triceratops killing the Tyrannosaurus, and the pair of Velociraptors killing a young ankylosaurid, with it either being Saichania or Talarurus since there isn't a name given to it, although the version I had was called "Predator Dinosaurs", with it being released in 2009 with the first part involving Triceratops and Tyrannosaurus, while the second included Velociraptor, Protoceratops, the unnamed ankylosaurid, and Tarbosaurus, though when I was looking for results about the Predator X was called "Xtinction Predator X", with the Amazon product only having 18 copies left in stock

    • @DinoDocumentaries
      @DinoDocumentaries 3 місяці тому +1

      That “Xticntion Predator X” is a SYFY channel movie

    • @LordBumblebee1238
      @LordBumblebee1238 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DinoDocumentaries Oh yeah, I do remember something about Rickraptor105 mentioning that in one of his video

  • @SpinozillaSaurian
    @SpinozillaSaurian 4 місяці тому +28

    24:42 I've seen footage of the animated segments used in NatGeo's Really Wild Animals episode on dinosaurs

    • @JWMStopMotionAnimation2010
      @JWMStopMotionAnimation2010 4 місяці тому

      Spino!!! So happy to see you! I love you, man!

    • @kevinnorwood8782
      @kevinnorwood8782 4 місяці тому

      Same here, dude! I legit believed that footage was created SPECIFICALLY for Really Wild Animals until I learned about where the footage originally came from!

    • @dylangeltzeiler946
      @dylangeltzeiler946 4 місяці тому +1

      So did I. I was puzzled by the clips for years until I had a little help with Dinopedia & they revealed the Mystery Documentary for me. I knew there was something about the clips, I knew it. But I would give a thing for that Nat Geo Dinosaur Documentary to be released on DVD in America after all these years.

    • @dylangeltzeiler946
      @dylangeltzeiler946 4 місяці тому

      @@kevinnorwood8782 I’ve been aware of the clips of the Mystery Dinosaur Documentary that puzzled me for years. Only that 1995 National Geographic Dinosaur Documentary has truly yet to be released on DVD in America. Especially some other National Geographic Documentaries on Modern & Prehistoric Animals that I have in mind. I might have to write a letter to the National Geographic Society later on. If I made sure what needs to be released on to DVD In America. Especially some that need to be restocked just Incase.

    • @Tacoclaw6
      @Tacoclaw6 4 місяці тому

      I am so happy to see you spino!!!!!!

  • @ferretlord2287
    @ferretlord2287 4 місяці тому +7

    The description of "The World's First Predators" sounds just like a Discovery Channel VHS I have, except it's titled "Origins: Battle for the Planet." I know a lot of these documentaries go by alternate titles, but regardless of title, I know this one quite well, as I watched it all the time as a kid, and I still have it.

    • @mariawhite7337
      @mariawhite7337 4 місяці тому

      You should see about digitizing it and sending it into the internet archive.

    • @ferretlord2287
      @ferretlord2287 4 місяці тому

      @@mariawhite7337 That was a consideration if no one else had it, but it seems to be available online.

  • @adamgrogory
    @adamgrogory 4 місяці тому +24

    24:45 Very important note! Clips from "Dinosaurs on Earth" are also shown in the National Geographic edutainment film "Really Wild Animals: Dinosaurs and Other Creature Features" which is fully available on UA-cam and on DVD! The 2D-animated clips feature in the background around the 14-minute mark for a sort of "Pop Quiz" segment, again at around the 16-minute mark, very quickly at the 22-minute mark and finally (the best part) at the 24/25-minute mark when paleontologist Robert Bakker is discussing the stabbing claw of the modern cassowary bird and relating it to a Utahraptor, and we see two Utahraptors attacking an iguanodontid of some kind.
    The clips show:
    - A Dilophosaurus drinking water during the night and later running.
    - A running Triceratops
    - A Tyrannosaurus running in profile before approaching the camera.
    - A presumed troodontid of some kind hunting and killing a small mammal
    - A herd of brachiosaurs moving through an open area
    - And finally, toe Utahraptors viewing an Iguanodon before attacking it.
    When I was I kid and had that DVD I was OBSESSED with those segments and also wondered if they were specially made for my DVD or from something else. The Tyrannosaurus in the thumbnail of this video was the reason I clicked on it as soon as I saw it. I'd recognize it anywhere.
    One thing though: I'm not sure how lost the actual animated segments are, because all of the screenshots you showed are from the same clips that are featured in "Really Wild Animals" and the clips cut off very suddenly in that documentary. And considering the runtime is only 25 minutes, I suspect that those short clips might be the only original animation in it, with the rest of the documentary maybe being the animatronics or live-action segments. I don't actually know but that's what I suspect.
    If you do another "Lost Paleo Media"-video, make sure to check out the "Really Wild Animals" documentary to get a look at the really great animation from those animated segments. Just to let people know that there is indeed a way to see them that's freely available!

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +2

      Very cool! Thank you so much for sharing! I'll be sure to keep Really Wild Animals in mind

    • @ladypangaea4801
      @ladypangaea4801 4 місяці тому +2

      OMG, I grew up watching a lot of those DVDs! Its surprising to know that the 2D animations were reused from another NG documentary. My favourite clip has to be the Dilophosaurus one, the shot where it's framed against the full moon I remember being very striking.

    • @dylangeltzeiler946
      @dylangeltzeiler946 4 місяці тому +1

      Something tells me that I’m not the only one who has been aware of the clips of the Mystery Dinosaur Documentary that puzzled me for years. Only that 1995 National Geographic Dinosaur Documentary has truly yet to be released on DVD in America. Especially some other National Geographic Documentaries on Modern & Prehistoric Animals that I have in mind. I might have to write a letter to the National Geographic Society later on. If I made sure what needs to be released on to DVD In America. Especially some that need to be restocked just Incase. Oh & 2 more things. #1 That small meat eating Dinosaur that killed the small mammal was an Eoraptor. #2 I know that National Geographic Dinosaur Documentary featured the 2 African Birds like The Ground Hornbill & The Shoebill.

    • @gallibon1319
      @gallibon1319 4 місяці тому +2

      I always wondered where that footage came from.

    • @dylangeltzeiler946
      @dylangeltzeiler946 4 місяці тому

      @@ladypangaea4801 Oh yeah, that one that was based on the Dilophosaurus by Dinamation due to the coloring. Still, it was an impressive looking Dilophosaurus that was brought to life on that National Geographic Documentary. Before the impressive Live Action Dilophosaurus from the Discovery Channel feature Documentary When Dinosaurs Roamed America came.

  • @MinecraftWorld1954
    @MinecraftWorld1954 4 місяці тому +8

    If I may give you a suggestion for a video: Planet Of The Dinosaurs and its spiritual successor 65. Planet of the dinosaurs is a pretty interesting lost world concept that, while not the best quality movie, still sounds like it would make an interesting analysis. And 65... is 65

    • @Ozraptor4
      @Ozraptor4 4 місяці тому

      Planet of Dinosaurs is a fascinating look at Stephen Czerkas' early dinosaur reconstructions before he would go on to become the foremost paleosculptor of the 1980s- 90s. Unfortunately he is best remembered today for his role in the Archaeoraptor hoax.

  • @user-uj2fu3ze3m
    @user-uj2fu3ze3m 4 місяці тому +6

    I have some memories of watching the Triassic Giant documentary when I was very young, it aired during the Dinosaur & Mega Beasts week the Discovery Channel did. I think I had it recorded on VHS however the VHS was thrown away.

  • @wizardsmix7961
    @wizardsmix7961 4 місяці тому +3

    Wow! I remember watching the dinosaur face off show when I was a kid. Thought the Dino Wars mystery was cool and it’s neat learning it’s a show I actually saw haha

  • @t-r-e-x452
    @t-r-e-x452 4 місяці тому +17

    Here's an idea to do a video on. Dino-Master, the Thai bootleg of Dinosaur King.

  • @danielmalinen6337
    @danielmalinen6337 4 місяці тому +27

    The disappearance of the Cruel Eden seems to have happened at the same time when A.C. Doyle was called out for not being a nice man and also for the kind of language Doyle used when he talking about women in his books. 🤔

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 4 місяці тому +11

      That's stupid but it wouldn't surprise me, the internet is just that stupid a lot of the time.

    • @govardhanposina17
      @govardhanposina17 4 місяці тому

      ​@@DarkOverlord96it isn't stupidity, just common sense, why would Haines want negative publicity for a book that doesn't seem to have even been properly released, not to mention it's quite possible Amazon quietly took the book off the platform after said controversy arose

  • @amelialonelyfart8848
    @amelialonelyfart8848 4 місяці тому +7

    The Doyle estate is pretty infamous for abusing copyright of Arthur Conan Doyle's works even if they are in the public domain. I think this mostly just applies to Sherlock Holmes but would not be surprised if they found some loophole and made the book go bye-bye.

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +2

      Interesting. Was there any known tension between Doyle's estate and Tim Haines and/or his associates? Because there have been other examples of book continuations to the original novel that seem to have bypassed any sort of copyright problems, though I don't fully know the story behind their publications

  • @arko09
    @arko09 4 місяці тому +2

    I saw this documentary in Germany! The man wasn’t just bald, he was entirely hairless.

  • @Ninjafossils
    @Ninjafossils 4 місяці тому +3

    My time to shine! I practically lived on the BBC Prehistoric Life page and played nearly every game mulitple times. Here is what I remember about The Caveman Challenge:
    Level 1: Australopithecus afarensis. This was a trivia game about bipedalism. Afterwards youd recieve a fact file and an image of Lucy (from the show)
    Level 2: Paranthropus. This was a top down game where you had to navigate around rocks and eat things (carcasses, bones, termites, plants) to fill up your "brain" meter before time ran out. Afterwards you'd get a fact file and image of Paranthropus.
    Level 3: Homo ergaster. This was a footprint matching game. Left side footprint, right side animal that made them. Fact file and Homo ergaster.
    Level 4: Homo erects. You had to make a fire at the right time at night as animals approach. You only had limited fire and the fire only lasted a bit. Some were antelopes and would run away. Others were dangerous (cats, moose, etc.) that would hurt you if you didn't use the fire. Fact file and Homo erectus.
    Level 5: Homo heidelbergensis. The game you talked about is a matching game with stone tool and item used for it. Fact file and Homo heidelbergensis.
    Level 6: Neanderthal. This one was a "hunting" game where you had to pick a location on the map to try to find a mammoth to hunt. Not much to it. Really just a point and click. Fact file and Neanderthal.
    Level 7: Homo sapiens. You are given a cave drawing to memorize. Then you get drawn segments that you have to rearrange to fit that drawing. Fact file and Homo sapiens.
    End: They give you a percentage of how well you survived based on how well you did in the game.
    I loved this game and all the other flash games on that website. I'm really sad that all of them are pretty much lost media.

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +2

      Always awesome to learn more about these games, especially since there's like no information about them online. Thanks for sharing!

  • @i.m.evilhomer5084
    @i.m.evilhomer5084 4 місяці тому +2

    I remember watching "World's First Predator" & those lost episodes of Paleoworld. I can't remember which channel First Predator aired, but I do remember reruns of Paleoworld airing on Discovery Channel's sister channel Discovery Science. Reruns would air as far as late as the early 2010s here in Australia. Back to First Predator, that old fourm post basically sums the First Predator perfectly. I do remember some of those moments, but only vaguely. I can remember the a small fish-like vertebrae hiding from predators & the ending with a giant sentient insect & zooming out to reveal it was living in an apartment in a city with buildings that looked like giant termite mounds. The ending was like something out of a Men in Black movie.

  • @kevinnorwood8782
    @kevinnorwood8782 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you very much for mentioning Messages In Stone! I own the full-length version (which is nearly an hour long) on VHS. I’m glad that I was able to get it when it was still readily available.

    • @DinoDocumentaries
      @DinoDocumentaries 3 місяці тому

      😳 Is there any way you can loan me your copy so I can digitize it for preservation?

  • @ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
    @ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 4 місяці тому +2

    Cruel Eden sounds a teensy tiny bit inspired by the Australian 90s Adventure Show The Lost World.
    In that series, Malone was in the Great War and the things he went through haunted him *later* when he goes on the Challenger Expedition.
    And just like in that plot synopsis, Malone was hanging out with two British soldiers.

  • @MichaelParthum
    @MichaelParthum 3 місяці тому +1

    27:44 Thanks for highlighting most of my lost paleo docu examples, but I must caution everyone that those DVD listings are misleading. The cover art on those eBay listings does not represent what is actually being sold. If you ask any of those sellers if the actual DVD cover matches the listing, they will say it does not, and it is actually another release of “The Truth About Killer Dinosaurs”.

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows 4 місяці тому +4

    I LOVE this series~

  • @CeratsTheCrunch
    @CeratsTheCrunch 4 місяці тому +7

    Well well well....seems like we ball

  • @springheeledjackofthegurdi2117
    @springheeledjackofthegurdi2117 4 місяці тому +1

    walking with beasts had some really weird games, the pc game was a isometric vehicle based rpg based around time travel with a focus on exploration and item management, don't think it was ever released digitally or rereleased though.

  • @iguanobro9925
    @iguanobro9925 4 місяці тому +2

    Hey there Diego!, i do remember a somewhat-related documentary with Nige Marven about the Loch Ness Monster, it featured several shots of Nessie in CGI, Nigel with kids near the loch, a scene with Nigel witha beached plesiosaurus and how the beached animaldecated, there was a section about paraedolias and with the last scene whocasing a Plesiosaurus appeared from the water surface (only the head outside)and then following more plesiosaurus doing the exact same thing, this part was on CGI.

  • @SuperXAsh
    @SuperXAsh 4 місяці тому

    i think I saw that one, 'first predators' thing. Was pretty interesting. And yes... it WAS strange with the 'transition' scenes with the bald man looking at the beetle and snail.

  • @starestream
    @starestream 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm not sure about the Predator Dinosaurs DVD. BBC released another DVD in 2013 with the same title and logo, but it contained both episodes for Truth About Killer Dinosaurs (coincidently). The only evidence I can find for Predator X is some stock-photos. Some of the eBay listings for the TAKD release uses the Predator X description. Maybe it was going to include Predator X at one point but they changed it to TAKD for the final release. Anyway, this video was a big help, I'm working on adding dinosaur documentaries to the dinosaurmovies tumblr and I have passed over several of these just due to a lack of information.

  • @Arvegtor
    @Arvegtor 4 місяці тому

    BBC website used to have a secret third episode of "Truth About Killer Dinosaurs" called "Baryonyx Mystery". It was in a choose your own adventure form, and when combined was significantly shorter that normal episodes, according to my memories, about 27-37 minutes long.
    "Planet Dinosaur" used to have a companion series for younger audience called "Planet Dinosaur Files". It's longer special episode is around, but 6 shorter normal episodes seem to be lost.
    There was also a BBC documentary "Rex Appeal" released alongside "Planet Dinosaur" as well.
    I used to have all of these + "Triassic Giant" on a external hard drive, but it unfortunately died a couple of years ago with my entire collection of documentaries.
    Paleoworld's "Valley of Venom" is available as "Mundo Paleolitico". Obviously, not in English, but at least it's something.

  • @Dovawhat
    @Dovawhat 4 місяці тому +2

    Not sure if you heard of the film but.....velocipastor, give it a watch.

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +2

      Heard of it, seen it, goddamn masterpiece

  • @TheChibiGingi
    @TheChibiGingi 4 місяці тому

    Regarding Dino Wars/Face Off, I do recall seeing the T-Rex vs Triceratops one, or I could be thinking of a different documentary that played that scenario. Basically, there were three outcomes: 1) if the Triceratops stood its ground, it'd likely win, 2) if the Triceratops tried to flee, it'd lose because it exposed its weak spot which was the part behind the frill, and 3) they kill each other. That last outcome might be me remembering a different documentary, but basically the people ran the tests and were heavy on the idea of what the triceratops would do would determine the outcome. But I kind of recall them taking a 'Deadliest Warrior' approach on the matter where you had the Pro T-Rex and the Pro-Triceratops, with early cgi effects and then a computer running the simulator/odds.

  • @GraniteGhost778
    @GraniteGhost778 4 місяці тому

    I remember Predator X, it was one of the last prehistoric documentaries that I saw before I enlisted.

  • @blakerayze1726
    @blakerayze1726 4 місяці тому +2

    You should do mare about Dinosaur Video games I always love those videos!, keep up the good work, I watch your videos when traveling, while I eat, and anytime I want an education video! Keep up the amazing work thankyou for being one of the only channels covering stuff in this style!

  • @lucanigro7316
    @lucanigro7316 4 місяці тому +4

    We ballin fellas

  • @reinatakagawa
    @reinatakagawa 4 місяці тому

    I have fragmentary memories of a series on Discovery in the mid-1990's, called something like "Jurassica". In particular, one episode had Robert Bakker draw a life-scale Argentinosaurus on a building wall in, what I think, looked like charcoal. I think there were quite a few episodes in this series, but, I only had this one, recorded on a VHS tape.

    • @Arvegtor
      @Arvegtor 4 місяці тому

      "Jurassica" included episodes of both Paleoworld and a series known as "When Dinosaurs Ruled", which has 6 episodes (5 + special, to be exact), and it indeed had a scene like that, as far as I remember.

  • @TearfulZorua
    @TearfulZorua 4 місяці тому +3

    What is your favorite Dinosaur?
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  • @kylerobinson925
    @kylerobinson925 4 місяці тому +3

    I'm wondering if anyone knows about a cartoon short on Nickelodeon possibly cartoon network during the mid 90's about a caveman named egghead who tries to steal a trex egg and invents the sport of golf. Part of me thinks I'm crazy but I remember it so well.

  • @dawsonduke3333
    @dawsonduke3333 4 місяці тому +4

    Dinosaur lost media: the best lost media

  • @0iqgremlin414
    @0iqgremlin414 4 місяці тому

    I remember watching Really Wild Animals as a kid, specifically the dinosaur special that used the 2D animations from Dinosaurs on Earth (since Really Wild Animals uses whatever's in the National Geographic film storages) and I always wondered where they and the stop motion dinosaurs from Messages in Stone came from
    I think Messages in Stone was also used in the dinosaur episode in Eyewitness along with other various dinosaur media
    EDIT: Glad to see others recognizing the animated clips from Really Wild Animals

  • @NeonSkyFlower
    @NeonSkyFlower 3 дні тому

    Probably a long shot but the telepathic meteor theory sounds like something that I possibly saw in a book called the rough guide to unexplained phenomena by Bob Richard and John Mitchell. It’s been awhile (over a decade) since I’ve read it but considering how many out there theories and stories it covered its potentially from there. I’d also check complications of fate and fortean magazines , I remember some wild dinosaur stuff from those.

  • @TylerRakstis
    @TylerRakstis 4 місяці тому +2

    24:42-25:13 I mostly remember those clips in Really Wild Animals' Dinos and Other Creature Features.

  • @TearfulZorua
    @TearfulZorua 4 місяці тому +1

    To answer my own question, my favorite dino is Borealopelta. He (general pronoun) is just so cute, reminds me of Sandshrew, officially had my favorite natural color scheme, and was posed like an enormous, sleeping, scaley, puppy!
    Also to find lost media relating to dinosaurs is really cool. I love lost media, and finding lost media.

  • @FrostGhidorahEX
    @FrostGhidorahEX 4 місяці тому +1

    I recall playing the Caveman game as a kid along with the other Walking With games
    From what I recall the Caveman game had you starting off as one of the earlier varieties and completing each mini game evolved you further and further the Caveman line
    I can't recall more then that but I know it was a simple fun game

  • @GoofyGoober-u9z
    @GoofyGoober-u9z Місяць тому

    hey on goodreads you can find a review of Cruel Eden it was made on February 29, 2020 by an author called Linda the review reads the following, Cruel Eden has a great premise, but this is a book that cries out for a good editor, and I really do hate making that comment. At times, the writing shows great promise, but it's very difficult to become engaged in the protagonists' stories because their point of view is quite distant, and we bounce from one situation to another, from one character to another, with no strong uniting thread. Speaking as an editor, I think this book would be excellent if the author slowed down, focused on the protagonists, chopped out a lot of side characters, and tidied up the plot progression. Great cover, by the way -- that is what initially attracted me to the book.

  • @iguanobro9925
    @iguanobro9925 4 місяці тому +1

    i MIGHT have watched the Triassic Ginar doc, maybe im wrong, but i do remember this:
    1- the Ichthyo was HUGE nad near a dark fray rock river and there was a team digging it.
    2- idk if this is even remembered by some or if it was another documentary, but there was a segment about a local Icthyosaur-inspired beer called "Ichthyosaur beer", there was a local man in that tavern with a beer car of that exact beer and alongside it, scenenes taken in another desert-y place in which there was a open-air Ichthyosaur skeleton dig on display.

  • @TheKsnate
    @TheKsnate 4 місяці тому +1

    I enjoy your videos quite a bit. Would there be any chance that you might consider going over topic such as sabertooth or woolly mammoth, or just ice-age lore overall?
    Thanks!

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому

      If you mean covering the animals/time period in general, probably not. My focus is specifically on paleomedia

  • @michaelbuono4007
    @michaelbuono4007 4 місяці тому +3

    0:34 Dude definitely knows is prehistoric life

  • @devinsmith4790
    @devinsmith4790 4 місяці тому

    I played some of those BBC Walking With... flash games, in fact I have a vague memory of playing the Caveman challenge game.

  • @tapinewoods3937
    @tapinewoods3937 4 місяці тому

    That one shot of tyrannosaurus from "Dinosaurs on Earth Then... and Now" kinda looks like the Vastasaurus Rex from King Kong 2005.

  • @Philoceratops
    @Philoceratops 4 місяці тому

    I almost totally remember Caveman Challenge!

  • @theluckynames
    @theluckynames 4 місяці тому

    I swear I watched that "Messages in Stone" at the Milwaukee Public Museum as a child. This would've been 1999-2002 probably.

  • @Irodeapentaceratopstoragnorok
    @Irodeapentaceratopstoragnorok 4 місяці тому +1

    Not sure if this counts as lost media but the original script by Walon Green for Dinosaur- back when Paul Verhoeven and Phil Tippett were going to direct it. I wonder if that will ever see the light of day. There are a few pictures of storyboards from it in Phil Tippetts book but apart from that, nothing. I’d love for that screen play to leak online

  • @MisfortunateJustice
    @MisfortunateJustice 4 місяці тому

    Out of everything you mentioned, I only remember Predator X. Enjoyed it too. Learning about a truly massive Leopluridae was exciting and terrifying. 😊
    But now we have an Ichthyotitan which was even bigger and it bums me out. 😮‍💨

  • @BrawlSnorlax
    @BrawlSnorlax 4 місяці тому

    Now I think dinosaur wars or whatever that one with the multiple titles was was basically a dinosaur version of a documentary series on Animal Planet called deadliest predator.
    I think I saw the world's first predators in college I don't remember much but CGI man sized insects triggered a memory;

  • @Ozraptor4
    @Ozraptor4 4 місяці тому +2

    Could "World First Predators" be another name for "Origins - Battle for the Planet"? Both are from the early 2000s and seem to cover the same subject matter and taxa. Clips from Origins are still widely viewable on several platforms (inc. UA-cam) if anyone can compare them.

    • @ferretlord2287
      @ferretlord2287 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm personally virtually certain they are one and the same, just under different names.

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +1

      I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility. It's pretty common for documentaries to have alternate titles when they air in other countries, so who knows? Maybe they're the same thing

  • @IanGarofalo91
    @IanGarofalo91 2 місяці тому

    There is a strange example of lost paleo media I can think of. It's a creationist documentary (though I'm using that term loosely) called "Footprints in Stone". It was released in 1973 and is about the alleged human footprints alongside the dinosaur footprints in Glen Rose, Texas. After the "man tracks" were thoroughly debunked in the 80s, the film was apparently pulled from distribution. I have been unable to find it online, and if there are any surviving copies they are probably locked away in archives. I did find a review of it published in 2008 for the National Center for Science Education, so it's possible they have a copy, though I can't be certain.
    Edit: I checked the NCSE website again, and that review was actually published in 1981. 2008 was just when it was archived on the site.

  • @jpkennedy2277
    @jpkennedy2277 4 місяці тому +1

    I actually think I saw the Predator X Doc (at least part of it) on TV when I was younger

  • @ToasterBot206
    @ToasterBot206 4 місяці тому

    I remember seeing Predator X on TV before!

  • @laurachapple6795
    @laurachapple6795 4 місяці тому

    I distinctly remember watching Predator X on UA-cam ages ago... but then, I've had several recent experiences that drive home how unreliable memory can be. So that's gonna bug me all week.

  • @witeknapieraa4109
    @witeknapieraa4109 3 місяці тому

    I remember playing a caveman challange on BBC website, but not much more about it except for the matching game. I believe there were game levels corresponding to different stages of human evolution and Megaloceros hunting was one of the challanges, but I may be confusing it with some other game.

  • @rickybryan1759
    @rickybryan1759 4 місяці тому

    I remember the Dino wars show!

  • @IWasaTeenageTeenWolf
    @IWasaTeenageTeenWolf 3 місяці тому

    I wonder if Monsters Resurrected is connected to Dino Wars. The only thing I saw of that was a Spino episode where they built a machine version of its arm and used it to crush a truck.

  • @dejaviewmaster
    @dejaviewmaster 4 місяці тому

    As far as I can tell, the second season of Prehistoric Planet (the discovery kids re-edit of WwD and WwB) has not been released on any form of home video. The only scraps of it I could find are the opening narration and various screenshots. Only season 1 has been released and now that there’s the Apple TV series, I worry it’ll get buried into obscurity

  • @sabetoonth
    @sabetoonth 2 місяці тому

    So like. I watched a lot of these sorts of shows as a kid. I recorded a bunch on VHS. I think I have all of Sabertooth somewhere.

  • @jessehutchings
    @jessehutchings 4 місяці тому

    7:00 The late 19th and early 20th century were times rife with massive fires because there simply weren't any fire safety regulations

  • @johntaylor6851
    @johntaylor6851 4 місяці тому

    I believe I saw the World's First Predators on one of Discovery's channels in early 2003. Part of why it's lost is there was a lot of that bald guy, who wore only a small pair of black shorts. The shots of him seemed awkwardly homoerotic and unintentionally silly

  • @critterjon4061
    @critterjon4061 4 місяці тому

    I watched Triassic giant in 2009, the documentary consisted of a a lot of footage documenting the excavation and recovery of the fossil and how they transported it back out of the wilderness. It was a while ago so I can remember a few scenes on of them being a scene of one of the paleontologist with a rifle slung over his right shoulder scaring off a bear while the narrator goes on about the dangers of bears and another being the scene where the fossil is covered in plaster and is lifted from the surrounding rock
    I remember it all so had the standard 3D reconstruction of the fossil that was so ubiquitous of paleo documentaries of the time

  • @AmityFeatures
    @AmityFeatures 4 місяці тому +1

    Anyone remember an Animal Planet or Discovery Channel special featuring Nigel Marvel I believe.
    I remember him interacting with various prehistoric creatures, mostly remember a sequence of a sarcosuchus running onto a golf course, people running away and Nigel was eaten.
    Have no recollection of any of the context, but I never forgot that sequence.
    Had to be around 2001-2004.

    • @dudeplayer7510
      @dudeplayer7510 4 місяці тому

      I think you are thinking of giant monsters
      With Jeff Corin and the full thing is available on youtube

    • @TheRoadrunnerFromHell
      @TheRoadrunnerFromHell 4 місяці тому

      No that's Giant Monsters with Jeff Corwin.

    • @dudeplayer7510
      @dudeplayer7510 4 місяці тому

      @@TheRoadrunnerFromHell can you look around for any information on dinosaurs the untold story it was a 2015 edit of dinosaur revolution that aired on discovery family it no longer appears to be on the Internet and I even contacted discovery themselves and they confirmed that it is still exists but is not available to the public I would like any information because I grew up with the project

  • @mandrakeblake-tw1uv
    @mandrakeblake-tw1uv 4 місяці тому

    23:19 I thought you were talking about "Os Caça Dinos", a lost brazillian webanimation which was made during 2016-2019. If you want to know more about it, I'll reply to you on the comment section.

  • @LaBibliotecaEterna
    @LaBibliotecaEterna 4 місяці тому

    Time to start looking for "Cruel Eden"

  • @Saint3188
    @Saint3188 4 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting

  • @biancarichling789
    @biancarichling789 4 місяці тому

    Dino wars broadcasted in germany under this title. I watched it several times.

  • @mlgodzilla4206
    @mlgodzilla4206 4 місяці тому +1

    We ballin

  • @Ninjafossils
    @Ninjafossils 4 місяці тому

    Also more flash games from the BBC Prehistoric Life page.
    Skeleton jigsaw. 4 or so skeletons that you had to fit together with a timer. All the skeletons were from Prehistoric Beasts (Gastornis, Mammoth, Basilosaurus, and I think Australopithecus?).
    Who dung it? Matching game with coprolites and animals that you had to guess which made the poop.
    Fact or Fiction (Maybe Myth or something). They would give you various stories that were either true or false and you'd have to guess. Some included the Piltdown man hoax as well as the BBC April Fool's prank of the "spagetti trees".
    There was a Baryonyx game that I never got to work, same as the 3D Jurassic game. Neither would work on my computer/the sites were down.

  • @Kekejejjeje
    @Kekejejjeje 4 місяці тому +1

    Wow!

  • @bubbles46853-ep9if
    @bubbles46853-ep9if 21 день тому

    17:05 Poor thing, lol

  • @dodujubidu7875
    @dodujubidu7875 4 місяці тому

    I remember having seen a documentary when I was a very young kid that featured Dilophosaurus. Does anyone know what the name of it was? I know it’s really not a lot to go off of, but I'm just curious, since its such an obscure memory in my head.

  • @dylangeltzeiler946
    @dylangeltzeiler946 4 місяці тому

    24:42-25:04 (Gasp) It can’t be. It’s the same mystery footage that I saw on Really Wild Animals a long time ago. I’ve always wondered where those clips came from & I have been asking some people about this. 25:06 Oh yeah, I’ve heard of that site. I tried to get 1, 2 maybe 3 DVDS of that, but I don’t know how to get one of them. I may have to Write a Letter to the National Geographic Society about this. Especially some of the other National Geographic Documentaries on Modern & Prehistory Animals that have yet to be released on to DVD In America all these years. Dinosaurs on Earth: Then… & Now even has an impressive looking animated Dilophosaurus way before the impressive looking Live Action Dilophosaurus from When Dinosaurs Roamed America came.

  • @shaneblackburn8321
    @shaneblackburn8321 4 місяці тому

    I know playing the walking with computer game when I was a kids.

  • @toonrex2806
    @toonrex2806 4 місяці тому +1

    Roger Corman doesn’t like stop motion? What is wrong with him?

  • @TheRoadrunnerFromHell
    @TheRoadrunnerFromHell 4 місяці тому +2

    13:21 I made that page, just sayin'. So your welcome.

  • @ChrissieBear
    @ChrissieBear 4 місяці тому +1

    I love dinosauruses.

  • @waterdrake1011
    @waterdrake1011 4 місяці тому

    Have you covered Fossil Fighters?!

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому

      No and I likely never will XD

  • @rileymanders2167
    @rileymanders2167 4 місяці тому

    so good

  • @spiderlime
    @spiderlime 4 місяці тому

    i wonder if anyone here is familiar with a british children's book from the late 1970's with a page about prehistoric elephants, in which there was a mammoth using a hair-dryer on it's fur. i still have some pages left, but lost the covers many years ago. on the subject of "cruel eden"i wouldn't be saurprised if the plot involved weaponized dinosaurs in ww1, with the british characters trying to infiltrate a castle-wolfenstein operation by the germans, with dinosaurs. the operation would be traced to a location in the plateau, that has a macguffin not unlike the evolutionary secret in the novel "the land that time forgot"by burroughs. with the recent challenger revival, the novella ïsland of terror"by william meikle, hints at something similar, and more clearly so öut of the depths"in the challenger anthology "lost worlds, found places".

  • @mugcake3539
    @mugcake3539 4 місяці тому

    I was trying to link to an example of lost Walking With Dinosaurs Media (a unique official edit of the show), but my comment got deleted for some reason :T
    Do you have your comment section filtered so that comments with links get removed? I really want to share this but I only have it written out on Reddit 😕

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +1

      UA-cam in general is weird about link posting for some reason. If you want, you can email it to my on my business email or dm me on discord. Both are linked in the description

  • @dudeplayer7510
    @dudeplayer7510 4 місяці тому

    Can you make a vid talking about dinosaurs the untold story it is an edit of dinosaur revolution that aired on discovery family in 2015 i grew up with the project and i have not been able to find it since since discovery does not seem to air dinosaur shows nowadays

  • @bacleedon5670
    @bacleedon5670 4 місяці тому

    5:38 Nah. That’s just a “normal” episode of Rick and Morty

  • @tapinewoods3937
    @tapinewoods3937 4 місяці тому

    Hey Dino Diego, are you willing to do a review on a novel called "Danger: Dinosaurs!" by Richard Marsteen?

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +1

      If I can get my hands on it one day, definitely. But I did some research on it a while back and apparently, it's pretty rare these days

    • @tapinewoods3937
      @tapinewoods3937 4 місяці тому

      @@DinoDiego16 I tried finding information with no luck until I went to Amazon to find information about the plot and the cover is one of my favorites

  • @smashers6971
    @smashers6971 4 місяці тому

    I’m still hopping for some Mention of the Christian slater dub of Walking with beasts for kids known as Prehistoric planet.
    While the Walking with Dinosaurs dub by Ben stiller is available on DVD there is no trace of the beasts dub left outside of some screenshots.

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +1

      I mentioned that in one of my previous lost media compilation vids. The playlist is linked in the description. The video should be called "A Collection of Lost Paleo Media"

    • @smashers6971
      @smashers6971 4 місяці тому

      @@DinoDiego16 thanks! Sorry about that I didn’t think you covered it already.

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +1

      All good!

  • @charlesbennett7484
    @charlesbennett7484 3 місяці тому

    🦕🦖👍

  • @alejbr4
    @alejbr4 4 місяці тому

    i think my friend has a copy of cruel eden

  • @martinsoto6146
    @martinsoto6146 4 місяці тому

    Here’s one,a Dinosaur King movie created for solely terrariums in Japan

  • @tradingplague2309
    @tradingplague2309 4 місяці тому

    Figured I'd toss something I remember seeing when I was 3. It's an anime with I believe a human girl and two humanoid dinosaurs or have dinosaurs features a pterosaur and a ceratopsian of sorts. One thing of particular note was a episode where said ceratopsian has a dream involving the iconic humanoid Troodon if anyone knows what I'm talking about please reply

  • @superiorcybergodzilla5670
    @superiorcybergodzilla5670 4 місяці тому

    The Lost media of King Kong (1996) is missing

  • @phytosurusgiganteus3461
    @phytosurusgiganteus3461 4 місяці тому +1

    These cases of lost production are terrible, the one that intrigued me the most was that of orthoceras

  • @mistermittens5931
    @mistermittens5931 4 місяці тому

    Hey I live in ohio... should I upload some of these to youtube

    • @DinoDocumentaries
      @DinoDocumentaries 3 місяці тому

      If you can obtain them and digitize them, absolutely. If you’re not sure how to, I can help in that regard.

  • @revol2933
    @revol2933 3 місяці тому

    Dinosars: messages in stone is a paleo-media example of "only in Ohio"

  • @restionSerpentine
    @restionSerpentine 4 місяці тому

    Here are some random titles I encounter trying to find your dinosaur suicided book
    Tamer: King of dinosaurs
    Marvel comics The runaways had a telepathic dinosaur called old Lace
    Dragon Dawn
    The Different Kinds Of Monsters: A Psychological and Supernatural Horror Novel
    The Destroyer of Worlds: An Answer to Every Question
    Groom of the Tyrannosaur Queen
    Planets That Time Forgot: Classic Tales of Otherworldly Dinosaurs

  • @surewhynot2156
    @surewhynot2156 4 місяці тому +41

    Generic comment

  • @chaoticiannunez2419
    @chaoticiannunez2419 4 місяці тому

    I think I have Cruel Eden, I have to check my kindle.
    Edit: Yep. I do. Bought it when it first released. I bought it because I recognized the name Tim Haines and as a fan of WWD and Primeval I jumped on it. Haven't gotten around to reading it, though. Good thing I did. Didn't think it would vanish.

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +2

      So I guess that confirms it was some sort of limited digital release. Very strange, but it's good to know that some people have it

    • @chaoticiannunez2419
      @chaoticiannunez2419 4 місяці тому

      @@DinoDiego16 I guess this means I should get off my ass and read the damn, thing. Been putting it off forever.

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@chaoticiannunez2419I mean hey, you're the proud owner of a piece of lost media XD. Gives you the perfect incentive to read it

    • @DeadMansParty
      @DeadMansParty 4 місяці тому

      @@chaoticiannunez2419Could you share a pdf please? :D

    • @chaoticiannunez2419
      @chaoticiannunez2419 4 місяці тому +1

      @@DeadMansParty I don't really know how to do that. I'm not especially tech savvy.

  • @Ninjafossils
    @Ninjafossils 4 місяці тому

    Can’t someone simply email Tim Haines and ask him about the book?

    • @DinoDiego16
      @DinoDiego16  4 місяці тому

      Getting in contact with Haines has proved to be difficult in the past. The best we've managed to do to get in contact with him was through people like Darren Naish who know him personally

  • @georgemagistr4846
    @georgemagistr4846 25 днів тому

    Hi Seoul, Triassic Giants But in Russian translate