I think "unrealistic" dinosaurs are fine in monster genres, as long as they aren't identified as specific real ones that they don't look like. One of the King Kong movies actually used fictional species names for its dinosaurs.
Shame we have yet to see a fictional dinosaur film with scientifically accurate (or at least as accurate as modern science can confirm) that I know of, mind you Jurassic Park/World overshadows whatever else might be out there with their (clumsily retconned to explain the science behind their unrealistic looks) amphibian hybrids
@@1D991 That's because the first jurassic park was made at a time when not much was known about how they actually looked but it was believed that Spielberg's depiction was as scientifically accurate as possible.
@@redspiderlilys6 jurassic park may have been inaccurate but I don't doubt that some of the most brilliant paleontologists of the next generation will be inspired by that franchise. I watched a commented screening of JP at a dinosaur museum and one of the scientists brought attention to the fact that the opening of the movie has multiple shots focused on snakes and other slow moving reptiles, and the ending includes shots of birds, and how that connects to a major shift in how dinosaurs were perceived in the 80s and 90s, as the scientific community came to understand that rather than being clumsy, scaly, and resembling modern reptiles, dinosaurs had feathers and their movements were much more birdlike characteristics. Really interesting stuff
From what I've heard, Harryhausen included the scenes of the iguana and spider in *One Million B.C.* alongside his stop motion models to show how much the former pales in comparison to the latter. My man...
Really? From what I heard Harryhausen included the Iguana at the beginning to convince the audience that what they were seeing was real. And that later on he regretted doing that. Though I would not be surprised in the slightest if he included it as a jab at the original/the whole slurpusarus trend, considering that overtook stop motion due to how cheap it was in comparison
@@kraikein Harryhausen was very protective of his craft and dismissed other techniques including suitmation and models sadly enough because it made him sound quite arrogant considering the level of craft and talent that went into that.
Words can’t describe my hate for slurpasaur movies. Do people not see lizards as animals? As living things! Making them fight to the death with props *glued* to their skin. It’s so sad for me. Especially that clip of the lizard getting ‘rocks’ thrown on top of it..
a LOT of ''animal lovers'' are just people who like the attention cute dogs and cats give hell even cats can be mistreated and cunts dont care since they arent as friendly if those common animals get mistreated what hope can '''''''ugly'''' animals have theres a HUGE lack of empathy for those poor animals ask biologist or zoologist how dumb the general public is towards reptiles
Tegus are like the beagles of the dog world. They might be able to do something to a human but they’re chow to a rabid cane corso that is an alligator. Plus tegus are generally pretty friendly as well
I definitely agree that a lot of these 'slurpasaur' movies seem to insult the audience's intelligence, especially in regards to what a typical dinosaur looks like. I mean, if I lived in the 60's, and I decide to watch the new dino movie, and the characters refer to a iguana or crocodile with horns stuck on as a T. Rex; I'd be pretty miffed. Whether or not it's intentional, people shouldn't be treated like they don't know what a dinosaur is. Also, it's really uncomfortable seeing two reptiles forced to fight each other repeatedly. It actually reminds me of when I was reading Michael Crichton's Lost World. There's a moment where two guys from InGen (I think it was InGen, it was a while ago) were talking about why they're using their dinosaurs for experimentation. One of them brings up the fact that people in general are more empathetic to cute, fuzzy mammals, than they are to creepy, scaly reptiles. A detail that became a part of the movie's themes as well. And while that statement irks me a lot (especially when they say that the dinosaurs are patented and lack any rights as living beings), it does make me think that it's true, to some extent at least. But at least there's some people (even back when these movies were getting made) that were bothered by the abuse and spoke against it. Because all animals deserve respect, even if they're "not cute". EDIT 02/01/2023: I'm no longer going to read/respond to any more replies. While I'm glad that I got to start a meaningful conversation about animal rights just by agreeing with Dino Diego's statements; I also feel overwhelmed by it all. That's not even mentioning the rude replies I've gotten as well. Right now I just want to move on to other things. That's all.
It's true. When we go to see a dino movie, whatever he is, at the moment the dinos in question, even if not completely accurate, look overall in good part to their physical form (ex: a raptor still a raptor even wihout feathers) we know and have a good idea about how this latter is, it's sufficient to us. We know all how a Stegosaurus, Triceratops, T-rex or raptor look like in the big lines. Everybody on Earth. And even if they aren't completely accurate, at the moment they all look justly in these big lines, it's sufficient for us. They are dinosaurs for us, and we will not complain at all. However, if we go to a movie who said he have dinosaurs and we only have giants reptiles we will everybody reconizes as just giants lizards or crocodiles just filmed bigger and with adds on them, we will complain because they aren't dinosaurs because they just don't like as dinosaurs visually. Instead, it's preferable to show them as "prehistoric reptiles that live alongside dinosaurs". That will be a good compromise without taking the public as stupid and uneducated folk. The dinosaurs have become so popular at the begginning of the XXs, especially right after "The lost World" 1925 with his Stop-Motion dinos that everybody on earth, even the most stupid and low intelligence people were all fully aware how each dino specie look like in the big lines and from a far distances. This is why is exact to call this part of the subject to said that was quite insulting to the people to show these animals as dinos. Because, in short, from the realisators toward the public, what they have in mind was : "it's okay, at the moment they are giant reptiles, people will accept them whatever how they are". Showing that they realling think that the entirity of the public was stupid to accept everything and were mindless.
Yeah, there’s a word for that. “Personable” I think. People don’t wanna save sharks because they hate them, they’re “scary” and “dangerous” but people wanna save polar bears or koalas because they’re “cute” and “fluffy” . They are personable.
@@vulturedrawz Exactly, if you asked someone if a otter or a shark can be considered "evil" they'd say the shark, despite the fact that male otters often display outright psychotic Behavior such as holding baby otters ransom for food and assaulting baby seals for fun, whereas sharks really only attack things they think is food, you'll really never see a shark holding babies ransom or attacking something for fun, appearance and media portrayals are very big factors in how people think about animals. (Ps I don't hate otters or anything I'm just using them for my statement)
Probably the best use of this technique was in the 1981 film "Quest for Fire". They covered elephants in brown wool to represent mammoths & lions with fake sabre teeth attached to their front teeth to represent sabre-toothed cats. None of the animals got hurt. Infact, the lions were apparently able to eat meat with their toothy prosthetics. (Normal lions would've been fine enough as they co-existed with Neanderthals, while Smilodon did not)
@@jonbeech5158 most modern captive lions aren't given the appropriate amount of space, and it must've been especially bad considering it was over 40 years ago.
This is hilarious and heartbreaking at the same time. Funny because who in their right mind would think a monitor lizard with a glued on frill is a dinosaur, but heartbreaking because of the animal fights and deaths...just ugh. Very well made video though, I love how compassionate you are towards the poor creatures made to be in these films.
Most people would've thought that at the time-if any of them were willing to believe it. The "giant lizards" polemic was strong even among Paleontologists in the era-look at Museum of Natural History for instance.
Don't go down the fake animal rescue rabbit hole then. Most "animal rescue" videos on UA-cam are simply animal abuse for profit. Every time you click on those "heart warming, emotionally satisfying, faith in humanity restored" videos, you're further incentivizing their cruelty
The most disheartening thing is that the latest slurposaur movie (that I'm aware of), was made as recently as 1993, the movie "monsters". It featured real life creatures supposedly enlargened by the radiation, and they continued the proud 40s tradition of hurting animals for film, which included _burning a live snake on screen and filming it writhing in agony._
I'm surprised you never mentioned Star Trek, which had the famous "alien" which was just a dog with a horn on its head. I'm sure there's other examples, but that's the one that immediately comes to mind. Of course, they also had many aliens who were just actors with prosthetics glued to their ears or foreheads. The difference is, of course, the human actors can agree to it.
The one that always gets me is the often showing up in the original flash gordon serial's 'dragons.' Which is an odd one because most people seem to think the two living iguanas are killed, but the clear dead iguanas seem to be different iguanas, they have different patterns and seem to be taxidermied and stuffed. Which would be a lot of expense (and time) when taxidermied iguanas would be easier and cheaper and could be rented for a scene. And since hte iguana 'fight' is just. Iguanas doing Iguana things and hanging out until they're obviously swapped with dead iguanas... it seemed unlikely.
Not an expert on the history of cryptids, but as I understand it, Nessie didn’t start being commonly depicted as a plesiosaur-like animal until 1933 (it’s been proposed that the brontosaur depicted early that year in King Kong may have been a big influence in coloring “eyewitness” perceptions). It’s plausible that The Secret Of the Loch in 1934 was still early enough that the plesiosaur-like body plan hadn’t yet become a universal assumption.
@@pepperedash4424 As far as I’m aware, there was no unified, universal “look” for the monster before the “plesiosaur” version caught on, so giant lizard probably made as much sense as anything else. The monster didn’t really catch on in popularity until 1933, so I’d imagine common conceptions of it hadn’t really started to crystalize in 1934. If I had to make a completely unfounded guess, a lot of people in 1933 and 1934 may have been talking about the “dinosaur in Loch Ness,” and to some people in the 30s, perhaps including the filmmaker behind this depiction, “dinosaur” may have simply meant “giant lizard.”
@@diebesgrab The general consensus on the appearance dinosaurs during the 30s derived from paintings by Charles R. Knight. Though his Dinosaur were reptilian in appearance, they weren't full blown lizards.
Ray Harryhausen showcased a demo reel of stop-motion dinosaur footage to the head of Lippert Pictures. The producer was so unimpressed that he refused even to speak to Harryhausen. When another Ray, friend and author Ray Bradbury, saw the iguana in the trailer for King Dinosaur, he stopped the producer and told him, "Mr. Lippert, it won't make a dime!"
I'm very glad you have empathy and were clearly uncomfortable by the reptile abuse happening. Saying this because so many people seem to have an attitude that its "so nostalgic!" and see animals like lizards and crocodilians as lesser creatures. I mean, would they still be cool with it these films forced young dogs to fight to a bloody death? Just sayin' I own reptiles myself and used to work at an exotic pet/wildlife rescue, so I know reptiles pretty well. Seeing reptiles like baby crocs, tegus, and iguanas (some of which look very sickly likely from lack of good reptile husbandry at the time and having stuff literally glued on them) being forced to fight is very sad. You can clearly see the animals trying to get away at points or being forced to bite. I am defiantly glad this trend died and most people seeing this as animal abuse.
There's a troll in the comments below I think who is trying to claim that forcing animals to fight for entertainment as a documentary on human behavior. Like how stupid is that? He's also trying to like in the animal abuse to watching a documentary of you know, real animals doing what they actually naturally do.
Something being nostalgic and something being okay aren't the same thing. It is like Principle Skinner said when trying on his old POW helmet "Oh this takes me back"
@@horsetuna There is some early wildlife footage of a tiger killing a crocodile got used in a lot of jungle adventure movies around this era too. Yeah, it is different.
Also, interesting fact, 1955’s Tarantula has the very first on screen appearance of Clint Eastwood! He plays the Jet Pilot who drops naplam on the giant spider.
@@julietfischer5056 Tarantula was first. Revenge of the Creature was the first one where you could really see Eastwood. In Tarantula his face was mostly obscured by a flight helmet and mask. His role in Revenge of the Creature was also more substantial. His lines in Tarantula were pretty perfunctory, whereas he was given a modicum of characterization in Revenge of the Creature.
Something noteworthy, Ray Harryhausen recounted that he had a very hard time trying to replicate the live lizard technique for the 1960s version of One Million BC. Among other things, studio lights would put an iguana to sleep. This was probably only "popular" because many/ most examples reused 1 Miion BC footage instead of making their own. Edit: Also, he did use a real crab for Mysterious Island, but he put a stop motion armature in it. Needless to say, it was no longer alive at the time.
I know that it was cruel to the animals but you have to admit there's something immediately recognizably unique about Slurpasaurs and I honestly wouldn't mind a revival of the aesthetic but using CGI instead live animals.
God bless Harryhausen, who never stooped to this and always made creatures that seemed like an actual dinosaur. Gwangi was an excellent design but particularly brilliant considering how stupid his "competition" looked in films like King Dinosaur and Robot Monster.
(I edited this post slightly because the creator showed footage of the Rex suit from The Land Unknown in the opening montage, but the movie actually features slurpasaurs more than the Rex. King Dinosaur is all slurpasaur)
Hey Diego, I just found out about another piece of obscure dinosaur media that might be worth looking into. Civilization 2 apparently had an official expansion pack that allowed you to play as a scenario the rise of the dinosaurs. It was basically just a few graphics and texts swapped out but it looked pretty fun, with all the military units replaced by dinosaur species and the technology names being changed to body parts or lineages (like instead of airplanes you developed pterosaurs).
That sounds rad. I need to search for a play-thru or overview essay on that game. I've never played EVO but I just find game history wildly interesting. I think there's a war series where people work with dinos too? I'm a new sub, very cool if the channel does games too!
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 War series with dinosaurs? You might be thinking of Dino Riders. You can watch that here: ua-cam.com/play/PLLhOnau-tupRpHH98erzMh3jrSCubyn2m.html Unfortunately, there is no good game based on it.
As a tegu & caiman owner it was definitely harsh to observe that 1 million B.C. scene with the tegu and alligator clashing, I’m glad these practices ended ages ago.
I was thinking if Godzilla 1954 could be considered a “dinosaur film”. As in the original film,I remember Dr.Yamane said that Godzilla was “An intermediate species between marine reptile and terrestrial mammals.” Which making it “Synapsid that looks like dinosaurs”. And in many of the incarnations,Godzilla was portrayed as “Monster that looks like dinosaur while having a non dinosaur-related origin”. Heisei Godzilla was one of the exceptions that stated Godzilla was a mutated dinosaur called “Godzillasaurus”.
Thanks for the information. For a long time I always assume if godzilla was some sort of sea dragon, because of the iconic laser breath and the fact if it never referenced by characters as dinosaur in many of the incarnation so it must be something entirely different
@@gojiratheking1065 Well,different incarnations of Godzilla has different origins,while Heisei Godzilla was indeed a mutated dinosaur,other Godzillas have different origins.
Alot of godzilla incarnations have different origins. 54 is a prehistoric kaiju awakened by nuclear bombs 55 is a prehistoric kaiju sealed away in a island fighting a different prehistoric kaiju hanna barbera... they don't explain i think heisei was a godzillasaurus that got mutated by atomic bombs 1998 was a mutated iguana millenium.. i forgor 💀 mv godzilla is a prehistoric titan 2016 is a evolving tadpole that got too close to radiation earth... i forgor agai 💀
I think the "give dinosaurs exaggerated features to make them more monstrous" trend is going to become worse (well as bad as you can get outside of real animal abuse) if "AI art" ever makes its way into actual movies and TV shows. If you put a dinosaur prompt into Dall-E or whatever, the results look more like a disfigured Papo Rex or a Slurpasaur because that's what the algorithm will create out of the top "dinosaur" image results. Obviously every paleofan recognizes every single wrong detail of them, but if too many people of the general public give it a pass because "eh, it's close enough to what I think of when I hear the word dinosaur", there's some dark years for "dinosaur movies" ahead of us.
@@ExtremeMadnessX He's promising a lot ! Sure, the dinosaurs aren't accurate and are in a Jurassic Park look visually and the only species we get to see will be again the populars Trex and Velociraptor, but overall, in term of sequences, with the atmosphere and ralisation of the scenes themselves building tensions, scaring and actions, it's stand out pretty well ! Will be just a normal dino movie to pass a good time before it, but it's already sufficient. Here, it's not about the dinos themselves we will have expectations but about the realisations and how they mange to made true scary moments with them, on that there all the expectations to be r=really well done. And I hope so on that.
@@kade-qt1zu The dinosaurs depiction and the accuracy of their designs isn't he main goal of this movie. "65" by Sam Raimi and the people behind "A Quiet Place" movie is a science-fiction thriller-action movie. It's on his tension, scary level and actions sequences on which he must succeed. Plus, for the movie's defense by advance, the setting will be in a alien planet, so where the evolution was different. So, if the dinos don't look accurate at all, like they were, will be normal and made sens in the same time. Will more be like a modern version of "Planet of the Dinosaurs" from 1977 than anything else.
Another instance of Reptile abuse, although not related to the slurpasaur stuff is in Friday The 13th when they kill the snake. Not only was it needlessly brutal, it was unscripted and the snake's owner was under the impression the poor animal wouldn't be hurt. That scene makes me tear up every time, I can't imagine how the snake or the handler felt.
The history of slurpasaurs is exceptionally depressing. Regarding suspension of disbelief of audiences at the time, many of the animals used wouldn't have been seen outside of these contexts by most people. They knew they weren't dinosaurs but they were probably still exotic and strange to the audience in a way that drew attention to the films. That's one reason armadillos were used in a lot of horror films in the silent era. They seemed strange and exotic, so put them in Dracula's castle. Heh. Night of the Lepus has my favorite slurpasaurs that you didn't mention, perhaps because they're just so ridiculous. The Killer Shrews is hilarious to watch. I do think it's probably best that they ditched the slurpasaur that was going to be in Aliens, but the behind the scenes footage of a dog in a xenomorph costume is very amusing. Of course I hope the trend of live animals abused for film dies a much needed and long-overdue death now that CGI is so versatile. Animals may not be fought to the death in major films anymore, but investigations have found the treatment and risks they endure is far from great, despite the "no animals were harmed" blurb at the end. For example, the tiger used in the live animal scenes in Life of Pi almost drowned. There are some good investigative journalist articles on the topic, documenting the corruption in the humane society in Hollywood. When special effects can be done without the potential risk and stress to animals (especially un-domesticated animals like big cats that really aren't kept in ideal conditions once they leave the movie set, either), it should be.
Good thing Hollywood has retired this technique IMO. Passing off a lizard as a dinosaur in a movie, no matter how cheap, is not worth the animal abuse.
Yes, but now you can see all sorts of animal abuse on social media, inclyding UA-cam. par example... the videos about turtles with colourful barnacle, and then jewlry etc., glue all over their shells. This kills the turtle slowly as the shell is part of the living integument of the the animal. Then these arses remove what they glued to the poor benighted creature claiming they found them like that, or worse...they sell them as living(but not well and not for long) decorations. Then there's the whole "rescues kitten/puppy from situations the "rescuers' put the animals in, in the first place. People can be pretty vile just to get a like on socmed. :(
If it's just an iguana crawling around it's not hardly abuse. It is however painfully stupid. Humans are animals too, so I guess in a way it is animal abuse.
Filming them just walking is not really abuse, but gluing a fin on a caimans back and having it fight a Tegu lizard ( wonder if the caiman killed it) can sure be considered cruelty.
One of the (many) issues with slurpasaurs is that dinosaur legs are directly beneath the animal, not splayed out to the side like a lizard. Dimetrodon is not a dinosaur, and may well have had lizard legs.
As someone who has kept many different species of monitor lizard as well as a few Tegu lizards, that fight scene from the original One Million B.C. is particularly distressing as most Tegus in captivity usually become quite docile and trusting. In the climax of that film there is an Asian water monitor, another intelligent and easily tamed reptile that clearly has one foot tied down during the "volcano eruption" scene and real flames are seen burning the side of its head. I don't mind them using the animals as dinosaurs, but there was absolutely no reason for the sadistic brutality by the assholes who made the film. They could have, and should have, found another way using their much touted "Hollywood magic".
I won't lie, the iguanas with a sail on their back didn't look like a half bad Dimetrodon. And there is something fun about using a giant lizard for a monster, obviously its completely inaccurate. Now if they could have put the costumes on without hurting the animals that would have been much much better. Edit: HEY That was Attack of the Killer Shrews or... something like that. That was a fun movie, and it was just dogs wearing a mantle. Greyhounds IIRC.
Worth mentioning the archosauromorph reptile Shringasaurus discovered in 2017, which looks remarkably similar to the rhino iguana with horns from the 1960s Lost World remake.
I grew up seeing many examples of both stop-motion and slurposaurs… it both bothered me and tempted me. I asked for a lizard and my reason was so I could attach a spinal sail to it and have my own dinosaur. Luckily, although I did get a lizard… and although I did cut the spinal sail off of a plastic model… I couldn’t see it working without hurting the lizard. It lived for six years, tormenting me with the responsibility of getting bugs for it to eat. 🦎
25:57 I'm glad you included the Hollywood Dinosaur quote, because I think it's easy to look back at old film trends and say, "wow, people believed whatever they saw!" I know I thought that way several years ago when I saw a slurpasaurus in the classic Flash Gordon series.
I am happy that we as humans have progressed enough to deem such animal cruelty wrong. Yes, some fringe elements are there and will always be. But we have made so much headway. Thanks for the video
I kinda like the looks of giant lizards as “dinosaurs”. Though obviously, it would be far easier to achieve this in an ethical manner, in the modern day. And obviously any animal fights would either be CGI, or done with puppetry.
Interestingly, at least one of the banthas in the first Star Wars (A New Hope) was played by an elephant in a costume. Also, the Corellian hounds seen on Ferrix in Andor are played by costumed dogs, too.
These type of "slurpasaur" are acceptable since the animal are just scenery, have just outfits adding on them and just at maximum walk in front of the screen. Nothing more. A good majority of the movies and productions in this video show that in many extents.
i am honestly suprised you did not mention a trend similar to slurpasaurs which used enlarged rats and bunnies for the monsters. Examples include:"food of the gods","food of the gods 2 " which is a sequel to food of the gods,"night of the lepus" which uses rabbits, and a movie that would have been made by Daei called "giant horde beast nezura" which would have been made to cash in on that giant monster craze it would have been brought to life by putting live rats on city set but that would not have been made due to difficulties making the film
It's possible he might do this in the future, although this film was specifically about dinosaurs and just happened to note that other animals were used as well in passing such as elephants for mammoths
@@horsetuna there was a section in the video were he talked about movies that used simular ideas i am just suprised he did not mention the terrifying pet store rat in that section
Oh, even better! The Nezura production didn't use tame, trained pet store rats, it used honest to goodness sewer rats. Untrained, wild, disease-carrying sewer rats. This obviously did not work.
@@Skyypixelgamer I don't think so--later in the video, we see a shot that looked like the fight was basically over. I'm glad that standards of animal treatment in movies are completely different now.
Interesting breakdown. Actually, I've written a book entitled OPERATION RED DRAGON: THE DAIKAIJU WARS, PART ONE that intentionally incorporates a a Slurposaur as one of the named monsters. He's described (and drawn) to look like an alligator with fins and horns on him, and a dangling tongue, of course. I included him as part of the homage to the works which inspired it. So in a way, I might be the only person left in the world still using the trend. (If ever realized on film, of course, I would never endorse using an actual alligator.)
Ah yes the one that attacks the submarines and battleship before the final battle! Warriah (i think i’m spelling it right) was my favorite monster from the book actually! Felt the most intimidating to me. Atomic rex has a few monsters that could be likened to slurpasaurs in it as well. I’m content with the asthetic referenced in the forms of original creatures while being portrayed by non live animals. The practice was unconvincing and immoral, but there’s just a way that it catches ones eye that makes me guiltily intrigued so it seems at least a modest source of inspiration.
That's an interesting way of looking at it. Essentially continuing the trend, but in the form of literature. Definitely the more responsible way of doing it at least.
@@DinoDiego16 your new this video comes out at a convenient time because I was actually going to write about this phenomenon in a Sci-Fi series I'm working on. How might I get official permission to mention you in a complimentary way in the writing?
Isn't that the guy who jokingly was blamed for all of the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park escaping, because he had been credited with being the dinosaur supervisor?
One of the lesser known examples of this trend is actually from one of the most famous franchises of all time. In Star Wars: A New Hope, the large furry creatures called “Banthas” on Tatooine were portrayed by a costume wearing elephant. Additionally, the Tusken Raiders in the Bantha scenes were played by the elephant’s trainers, who after each take would reward her with apples.
An excellent video. I definitely sympathize with you on the tegu/croc battle scene. It pained me to have to watch two animals literally fight to the death for cheap entertainment like a sick exotic cock fight. I'm very glad that we live in a time where there are more strict protections for all critters in films.
Disregarding the more important matter of the animal cruelty, which is completely beyond the pale and essentially evil, I have absolutely no time for film producers who think they can pass off lizards or alligators as dinosaurs. It is lazy and an insult.
As bad as it sounds, I’m just glad they didn’t reuse the coati snake clip My heart goes out to every animal involved in that movie, but you just know that snake didn’t survive and that’s just heartbreaking,. Easily the most difficult thing I’ve seen in cinema as a snake owner
I think saying that the horned armadillo is supposed to be a glyptodon is giving them way too much credit. They probably glued those horns onto the poor critter without any knowledge of the ice age mammal. And, ethical dilemmas aside, I do think the rhino iguanas look good as dimetrodons in Journey to the Center of the Earth.
Imagine if modern day movies could just get away with reusing clips of an older movie. Like a new alien invasion type movie comes out and they just splice in clips from Independence Day.
Austin Powers made that in sort of type of joke in the second movie, they literally used the clip of Independence Day with the aliens blowing up the White House with Doctor Evil even saying it was from Independence Day.
Occasionally you can find a low budget direct to "video" film that will recycle old film footage. I know the movie badass recycled a bus wreck scene from another movie
As a kid I found this so disturbing due to how awful it was for the animals. Sad many innocent animals suffered for absolutely jokes of a film (not saying it's better if it's a good movie(
Crazy how back then you could lift entire scenes from other movies with no repercussions, but now you use a 2 seconds clip from a movie and the studio will come down on you like a ton of bricks
Yeah, I remember watching some of the few movies that involve basically gluing prosthetics on reptiles and letting them fight. So it’s strange how these movies kind of get left out of instances of animal abuse on camera. I always hear about cannibal Holocaust and cyclone but rarely stuff past the color age. 🎩 🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
As a kid watching this I was also hella confused how nobody other than me was ever appalled by the obvious animal abuse. I think it really goes down to the general public just having less sympathy for reptiles.
@@toniotrussardi8126 People typically only show empathy to animals if it doesn't require effort or the animal is a dog, rats for example are proven to show empathy to other rats such as bringing food to injured rats but people still default to killing one's they find in the house rather than using more humane methods.
@@orangeninjapocket603 there are entire books about how if you really want to make someone appear evil in a movie, you have to have them hurt a cat or a dog. One of the books about the phenomenon how to write good movies is called, save the cat
No animals were harmed in the making of this movie. (The filmmakers wish to make it clear that this statement does not extend to the making of other movies from which they may or may not have stolen footage)
17:35 Fun fact: They reused the sound effects of a group of elephants from another film that Star Wars ended up using as the basis for the TIE fighter sound effects.
As a reptile keeper myself, this made sad. thank you for making this video about spreading the information because before this, i had know idea about this trend. also, im still gonna make fun of you calling it tegu lol.
What an excellent video! 😃 As a kid, I was an avid dino fan and had many books, toys and model kits. Those old films with lizards etc, dressed as dinosaurs never convinced me one bit. I always preferred the stop-motion ones.
15:47 At least the Journey to the Center of the Earth adaptation uses lizards to play as Dimetrodons and not dinosaurs. I know that wasn't intentional, but at least they didn't show an Iguana and call it a T. rex. It's still bad they painted a Monitor Lizard red and called it a Chameleon, rather than using an actual Chameleon.
@@gergopiroska5749 At least they weren't called dinosaurs, and Dimetrodon does look very similar to some modern lizards, even though they are more related to mammals than they are to reptiles.
@@jacobcox4565 tbh i don't hate old movies as they have their charm But calling an iguana with glued on horns a tyrannosaur is fucking terrible Whats even worse is that they already knew the basic look of dinosaurs
There are two slurpasaurs in the first chapter of the original Buster Crabbe ”Flash Gordon” that work quite well. They’re two monstrous reptiles on an alien world, so they fit in better than ”playing” dinosaurs.
Glad slurpasaurus are no longer in use, besides at best looking rather goofy and silly, and at worst looking lazy and shitty, this technique is just straight up animal abuse, the footage of the tegu and alligator was especially uncomfortable, seeing those poor dudes fighting is just sad. And other examples, with the “mammoth” elephant with its fur, especially knowing how intelligent elephants are, it looked especially agitated. When they fight to the death especially is just tragic.
I feel like films like King Kong and the original Jurassic world and the JP trilogy don't really count, since those were scientifically recreated, were new mutated forms or something, however I did not like when JW dominion tried to pass off the giga as the "original version" like that thing is just a really big concavinator mixed with a croc
Gluing a sail to an iguana and calling it a Dimetrodon works a hell of a lot better than the other reptile shortcuts. It looks more like a Dimetrodon than the other efforts. The series _Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea_ would recycle footage from _The Lost World_ in a few episodes. Both were Irwin Allen productions, starring David Hedison.
As a 71 year old man who grew up watching these sorts of things, it felt somewhat normal to me. Like, I'm not saying I support a baby alligator with a Dimetrodon sail on its back beheading a tegu but given the time they were all made, the makers really just want to make something as realistic as possible and something that excites the audience without spending huge bucks on stop motion. I felt like it's clever that they used real animals, but it was also a bad thing that some of them have the animals fight. And like you said, animal rights were really not understood well at that time... Also, I wouldn't blame the creators for using reptiles as stand-ins for dinosaurs, they really just fit this sort of monstrous look and behaviour towards them.
Honestly, animals don't have rights. Rights are a creation of human beings, and humans only enjoy them if they're willing to fight for them. Whatever 'rights' animals are perceived to have are simply what mercy we are willing to extend them.
@colbyprice-lampkin7547 nobody ever said that they weren't terrible people but if you don't know better you can't do better. Animal rights just weren't a consideration so it was accepted at the time and as awful as it was at least society has learned from it
I can't believe you didn't talk about the fact that the special effects director for King Kong vs Godzilla, Eiji Tsuburaya, ate one of the three octopi who played the Giant Octopus after its scenes were done. Also, the Giant Octopus; who's official name is Oodako, was so popular that he showed up in a reshot ending of Frankenstein Conquers the World, then in the sequel, War of the Gargantuas, both as props iirc, not live octopi.
I would be fine if Slurpasaurs returned in a less cruel way. They could make the spikes and horns CGI and not include any scenes of the animals fighting or getting killed. There was also that point about them looking nothing like dinosaurs, but they could just be referred to as "prehistoric reptiles" instead of dinosaurs.
Wow this video really brings back some memories. At the science museum in my hometown they used to have monthly screenings of old sci Fi movies including some of the ones shown here! I honestly love the old cheesy special effects, especially the slurposaurs. I hate when they fight eachother or get hurt on screen though :(
I remember seeing a snippet of The Lost World on TV and wincing at the sight of the monitor and alligator mauling each other. I didn't like what I see because I could tell those were real animals being forced to fight in an unnatural scenario.
The Slurpasaur technique is goofy at first glance, but I can't help but feel bad for the animals involved in. Especially since they had to fight to the death for entertainment. As others have said, maybe the Slurpasaur technique can return in CGI rather than live animals. Omni Viewer payed homage to the Slurpasaur technique through the monster Wanirah in his novel "Operation Red Dragon: The Daikaiju Wars Part 1"
Perhaps in a matter of coincidence, but just before this came out I had a plot idea involving this phenomenon for my sci-fi comedy series using these old movies I wonder if I can get away with actually mentioning Dino Diego in the writing as one of the vigorously researched footage used
Similar to the stop motion crab is Raccacoonie from Everything Everywhere All At Once, which is an actual taxidermied racoon filled with animatronics. Funny that in Jurassic World franchise is that Giganotosaurus gets very tall keratin spikes almost like a sail but Mosasaurus doesn't have a flicking forked tongue like the real animal did because of fears that audiences would think it was made up.
you know what would be awesome... stupid but awesome? a movie where they use the slurpasaurus, and all the old setups for use normal animal for the "giant monster" trope..... but only 1 character is convinced of it while the rest are like "something looks off here...." or the reverse where everyone is convinced and only one guy is like "uhh... is that a green screen?"
The silhouette shown in the thumbnail looks like the costumed lizard used in the 1928 “Mysterious Island” with Lionel Barrymore. Gonna check on that. They built a fairly elaborate costume for their lizard.
My favorite example of a slurpasaur would be in the 1982 film Deadly Eyes. In that they used dachshunds (dressed as giant rats) for the movie's monsters, creating an effect that was way more adorable than terrifying.
I can't really confirm if this is true or not, as I heard it from an old video about the history of Kong movies so take this with a grain of salt But apparently at some point before the 50s or 60s but a company wanted to get the license to King Kong and use it to make a cheap action adventure adaption that would have used Slurpasaurus. If I recall correctly they would have a scene where a trained chimpanzee or gorilla (who I guessed would play Kong) would have fought a Komodo Dragon or Crocodile (being passed off as a T. rex). But like I said, I really can't confirm if this was a real concept or something that the old UA-camr made up.
Could you imagine if this actually happened Director "Why do our trained Chimps keep dying after one day of production?" Animal Handler: "I don't know, they only got bit by the Komodo Dragon a couple of times."
If someone calls a person "soft" for not wanting to watch needless animal cruelty for no real reason, they need to seek help, and probably be locked away.
Fun Fact (sort of): The giant octopus in Godzilla VS King Kong was acted by *four* different *octopi.* By the end of shooting, *three* of the octopi were *released,* while the *fourth* was *eaten* by the special effects director.
Id like to see a revival of slurpasaurs where the animals are treated as actors and not slaves to die. Just use cgi for any fight scenes. Using sushi is kinda dope though, gotta give Harryhausen credit for style.
Or if it’s me making it, some other practical effects. I really want to see what a modern Slurpasaur movie would look like, so (probably not right now because of the weekly videos) I’m gonna do that at some point.
my iguana hank has headshots available for any filmmakers out there, he told me to tell you that he doesn’t do his own stunts for reasons seen in your video,
In the 1960 version of ''The Lost world'', there was also a scene of two lizards made to pass for dinosaurs, fighting to the death. Scenes of Lizards as dinosaurs from both ''The Lost World'' and ''The Mysterious Island'' would keep popping up on Irwin Allen produced TV shows in the 1960's such as ''Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea'', ''The Time Tunnel'', and ''Lost In Space''. Also, there was the 1929 version of ''The Mysterious Island'', where a sea monster was ''played'' by a baby alligator. . The unlucky just hatched creature was actually set on fire and filmed burning to death.
Tegus aren't monitor lizards, but they did converge on the same lifestyle as them. Their closest relatives are more obscure, like worm lizards and racerunners
I kind of want to make an intentionally cheesy horror short about a praying mantis. I honestly think I might just record a mantis waking around on a miniature. Maybe somehow I'll make a stop motion puppet. I won't hurt it or anything, I'll probably just coax one onto something, record it, and let it go on with its life. Idk, I have lots of ideas for intentionally cheesy horror films, like The Pair Of Shoes THAT EATS!!! Anyways, sorry for that little rant. I have some stop motion on my channel (self promo) and I might be able to make a stopmotion mantis puppet
movies before animal rights were crazy. theres scene in either the first or second black lagoon movie where the monster straight up grabs a real crane by ts real neck and drags it under the water. and thats a pretty tame example
I’m kinda glad CGI exists so people don’t have to keep doing stuff like this, or not even this but just using real animals and abusing them for a film set, because now we can do fake but realistic CG animals. The history of these Slurpasaurus is really sad to me, though I hope one day a movie or show comes out with Slurpasaurus remade into CGI, like idk maybe a One Million Years BC remake with new Slurpasaurus for the giant iguana. I even made my own monster that I just realised it similar to theses with it being a frilled giant monitor lizard with a spinosaurus spine and the tail of a ankylosaurus, it was basically animal that accidentally got mixed with other animals and dinosaurs and mutated to what it is now, so it’s not really meant to be a dinosaur since it’s more of a animal hybrid but theses still reminded me of it. Maybe a movie can have a similar concept for Slurpasaurus or just have them be natural animals, idk. Would like a 40s One Million BC or One Million Years BC remake
I'd say that dinosaur in the thumbnail is the next paper on spinosaurus
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At this point it could be
I am writing the paper now!
Damn
I think "unrealistic" dinosaurs are fine in monster genres, as long as they aren't identified as specific real ones that they don't look like. One of the King Kong movies actually used fictional species names for its dinosaurs.
Shame we have yet to see a fictional dinosaur film with scientifically accurate (or at least as accurate as modern science can confirm) that I know of, mind you Jurassic Park/World overshadows whatever else might be out there with their (clumsily retconned to explain the science behind their unrealistic looks) amphibian hybrids
@@1D991 That's because the first jurassic park was made at a time when not much was known about how they actually looked but it was believed that Spielberg's depiction was as scientifically accurate as possible.
@@fyfyi6053 jurrasic park did get people to start thinking the t rex didn’t stand like a kangaroo, so that’s good at least
It's de end ohv da wurrrllld....
@@redspiderlilys6 jurassic park may have been inaccurate but I don't doubt that some of the most brilliant paleontologists of the next generation will be inspired by that franchise. I watched a commented screening of JP at a dinosaur museum and one of the scientists brought attention to the fact that the opening of the movie has multiple shots focused on snakes and other slow moving reptiles, and the ending includes shots of birds, and how that connects to a major shift in how dinosaurs were perceived in the 80s and 90s, as the scientific community came to understand that rather than being clumsy, scaly, and resembling modern reptiles, dinosaurs had feathers and their movements were much more birdlike characteristics. Really interesting stuff
From what I've heard, Harryhausen included the scenes of the iguana and spider in *One Million B.C.* alongside his stop motion models to show how much the former pales in comparison to the latter.
My man...
I love tarantulas to death, but if one were to fight an iguana, the tarantula would become food very fast.
What an absolute sigma chad
Iguanas are herbivores. But they can kill a tarantula easily anyway.
Really? From what I heard Harryhausen included the Iguana at the beginning to convince the audience that what they were seeing was real. And that later on he regretted doing that. Though I would not be surprised in the slightest if he included it as a jab at the original/the whole slurpusarus trend, considering that overtook stop motion due to how cheap it was in comparison
@@kraikein Harryhausen was very protective of his craft and dismissed other techniques including suitmation and models sadly enough because it made him sound quite arrogant considering the level of craft and talent that went into that.
Words can’t describe my hate for slurpasaur movies.
Do people not see lizards as animals? As living things! Making them fight to the death with props *glued* to their skin.
It’s so sad for me. Especially that clip of the lizard getting ‘rocks’ thrown on top of it..
“I liked em.” -👴🏼
@@curious1053 ah yes, white people hate animals
Some people actually enjoy seeing reptiles be killed. My dad actively hunts down snakes with a shovel for no reason other than “I don’t like them.”
@@Shaun_Jones Your dad is an asshole!
a LOT of ''animal lovers'' are just people who like the attention cute dogs and cats give
hell even cats can be mistreated and cunts dont care since they arent as friendly
if those common animals get mistreated what hope can '''''''ugly'''' animals have theres a HUGE lack of empathy for those poor animals
ask biologist or zoologist how dumb the general public is towards reptiles
Referring to that first fight as "real animals hurting each-other" is being VERY charitable to the Tegu. Poor bastard got absolutely bodied.
That caiman actually crushed the monitor lizards skull too despite being smaller in that other lizard vs croc fight
The crazy thing is the Tegu actually died, it got its skull crushed by the Gator and the injuries were too big for it to live, so it sadly died 😢
Yeah poor little guy gator was like almost double it's weight lol
Tegus are like the beagles of the dog world. They might be able to do something to a human but they’re chow to a rabid cane corso that is an alligator. Plus tegus are generally pretty friendly as well
I definitely agree that a lot of these 'slurpasaur' movies seem to insult the audience's intelligence, especially in regards to what a typical dinosaur looks like. I mean, if I lived in the 60's, and I decide to watch the new dino movie, and the characters refer to a iguana or crocodile with horns stuck on as a T. Rex; I'd be pretty miffed. Whether or not it's intentional, people shouldn't be treated like they don't know what a dinosaur is.
Also, it's really uncomfortable seeing two reptiles forced to fight each other repeatedly. It actually reminds me of when I was reading Michael Crichton's Lost World. There's a moment where two guys from InGen (I think it was InGen, it was a while ago) were talking about why they're using their dinosaurs for experimentation. One of them brings up the fact that people in general are more empathetic to cute, fuzzy mammals, than they are to creepy, scaly reptiles. A detail that became a part of the movie's themes as well. And while that statement irks me a lot (especially when they say that the dinosaurs are patented and lack any rights as living beings), it does make me think that it's true, to some extent at least.
But at least there's some people (even back when these movies were getting made) that were bothered by the abuse and spoke against it. Because all animals deserve respect, even if they're "not cute".
EDIT 02/01/2023: I'm no longer going to read/respond to any more replies. While I'm glad that I got to start a meaningful conversation about animal rights just by agreeing with Dino Diego's statements; I also feel overwhelmed by it all. That's not even mentioning the rude replies I've gotten as well. Right now I just want to move on to other things. That's all.
It's true. When we go to see a dino movie, whatever he is, at the moment the dinos in question, even if not completely accurate, look overall in good part to their physical form (ex: a raptor still a raptor even wihout feathers) we know and have a good idea about how this latter is, it's sufficient to us.
We know all how a Stegosaurus, Triceratops, T-rex or raptor look like in the big lines. Everybody on Earth.
And even if they aren't completely accurate, at the moment they all look justly in these big lines, it's sufficient for us.
They are dinosaurs for us, and we will not complain at all.
However, if we go to a movie who said he have dinosaurs and we only have giants reptiles we will everybody reconizes as just giants lizards or crocodiles just filmed bigger and with adds on them, we will complain because they aren't dinosaurs because they just don't like as dinosaurs visually.
Instead, it's preferable to show them as "prehistoric reptiles that live alongside dinosaurs".
That will be a good compromise without taking the public as stupid and uneducated folk.
The dinosaurs have become so popular at the begginning of the XXs, especially right after "The lost World" 1925 with his Stop-Motion dinos that everybody on earth, even the most stupid and low intelligence people were all fully aware how each dino specie look like in the big lines and from a far distances.
This is why is exact to call this part of the subject to said that was quite insulting to the people to show these animals as dinos.
Because, in short, from the realisators toward the public, what they have in mind was : "it's okay, at the moment they are giant reptiles, people will accept them whatever how they are".
Showing that they realling think that the entirity of the public was stupid to accept everything and were mindless.
Yeah, there’s a word for that.
“Personable” I think. People don’t wanna save sharks because they hate them, they’re “scary” and “dangerous” but people wanna save polar bears or koalas because they’re “cute” and “fluffy” . They are personable.
waaaah not the poor lizaaaaaards :___(________
go feed yourself to one
@@vulturedrawz Yeah, you're right. Still doesn't mean we shouldn't be biased towards animals we don't consider them cute. But hey, what do I know.
@@vulturedrawz Exactly, if you asked someone if a otter or a shark can be considered "evil" they'd say the shark, despite the fact that male otters often display outright psychotic Behavior such as holding baby otters ransom for food and assaulting baby seals for fun, whereas sharks really only attack things they think is food, you'll really never see a shark holding babies ransom or attacking something for fun, appearance and media portrayals are very big factors in how people think about animals. (Ps I don't hate otters or anything I'm just using them for my statement)
Probably the best use of this technique was in the 1981 film "Quest for Fire". They covered elephants in brown wool to represent mammoths & lions with fake sabre teeth attached to their front teeth to represent sabre-toothed cats. None of the animals got hurt. Infact, the lions were apparently able to eat meat with their toothy prosthetics. (Normal lions would've been fine enough as they co-existed with Neanderthals, while Smilodon did not)
I thought they found evidence that humans hunted smiled on? Or do you mean just specifically the Neanderthals and not homosapiens?
Too be far that's a whole subject for another day lol.
@@craig2196 definitely. And probably more extensive due to there being more incidences
@@jonbeech5158 most modern captive lions aren't given the appropriate amount of space, and it must've been especially bad considering it was over 40 years ago.
The Banthas in Star Wars: A New Hope were also costumed elephants.
This is hilarious and heartbreaking at the same time. Funny because who in their right mind would think a monitor lizard with a glued on frill is a dinosaur, but heartbreaking because of the animal fights and deaths...just ugh. Very well made video though, I love how compassionate you are towards the poor creatures made to be in these films.
Not counting if present few abuse, when the creator put the prosthetic sail and horns
Most people would've thought that at the time-if any of them were willing to believe it. The "giant lizards" polemic was strong even among Paleontologists in the era-look at Museum of Natural History for instance.
Don't go down the fake animal rescue rabbit hole then. Most "animal rescue" videos on UA-cam are simply animal abuse for profit. Every time you click on those "heart warming, emotionally satisfying, faith in humanity restored" videos, you're further incentivizing their cruelty
The most disheartening thing is that the latest slurposaur movie (that I'm aware of), was made as recently as 1993, the movie "monsters". It featured real life creatures supposedly enlargened by the radiation, and they continued the proud 40s tradition of hurting animals for film, which included _burning a live snake on screen and filming it writhing in agony._
wha. ,
I'm surprised you never mentioned Star Trek, which had the famous "alien" which was just a dog with a horn on its head. I'm sure there's other examples, but that's the one that immediately comes to mind. Of course, they also had many aliens who were just actors with prosthetics glued to their ears or foreheads. The difference is, of course, the human actors can agree to it.
"He's dead, Jim!" -Dr. Bones McCoy.
The one that always gets me is the often showing up in the original flash gordon serial's 'dragons.' Which is an odd one because most people seem to think the two living iguanas are killed, but the clear dead iguanas seem to be different iguanas, they have different patterns and seem to be taxidermied and stuffed. Which would be a lot of expense (and time) when taxidermied iguanas would be easier and cheaper and could be rented for a scene.
And since hte iguana 'fight' is just. Iguanas doing Iguana things and hanging out until they're obviously swapped with dead iguanas... it seemed unlikely.
Oh the Klingon pet, I remember that, so cute.
That dog was so cute!
and Muffit II of Battlestar
"Mom I want a spinosaurus"
"We have a spinosaurus at home"
Spinosaurus at home: Crocodile with Dimetrodon Sail
Oddly that portrayal predicted how today spinosaurus reconstruction looks like.
@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 Less crocodilian tho
Basically just secondontosaurus
Spinosaurus in 2030
Not an expert on the history of cryptids, but as I understand it, Nessie didn’t start being commonly depicted as a plesiosaur-like animal until 1933 (it’s been proposed that the brontosaur depicted early that year in King Kong may have been a big influence in coloring “eyewitness” perceptions). It’s plausible that The Secret Of the Loch in 1934 was still early enough that the plesiosaur-like body plan hadn’t yet become a universal assumption.
True. In some of the early descriptions of the movie, it was still labeled as a dinosaur so that might say something.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing- I remember originally learning it was a Brontosaurus as a kid…
Buy was the Nessie ever depicted as being no different than an iguana, minus the gigantism?
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As far as I’m aware, there was no unified, universal “look” for the monster before the “plesiosaur” version caught on, so giant lizard probably made as much sense as anything else. The monster didn’t really catch on in popularity until 1933, so I’d imagine common conceptions of it hadn’t really started to crystalize in 1934. If I had to make a completely unfounded guess, a lot of people in 1933 and 1934 may have been talking about the “dinosaur in Loch Ness,” and to some people in the 30s, perhaps including the filmmaker behind this depiction, “dinosaur” may have simply meant “giant lizard.”
@@diebesgrab The general consensus on the appearance dinosaurs during the 30s derived from paintings by Charles R. Knight. Though his Dinosaur were reptilian in appearance, they weren't full blown lizards.
Ray Harryhausen showcased a demo reel of stop-motion dinosaur footage to the head of Lippert Pictures. The producer was so unimpressed that he refused even to speak to Harryhausen. When another Ray, friend and author Ray Bradbury, saw the iguana in the trailer for King Dinosaur, he stopped the producer and told him, "Mr. Lippert, it won't make a dime!"
I'm very glad you have empathy and were clearly uncomfortable by the reptile abuse happening. Saying this because so many people seem to have an attitude that its "so nostalgic!" and see animals like lizards and crocodilians as lesser creatures. I mean, would they still be cool with it these films forced young dogs to fight to a bloody death? Just sayin'
I own reptiles myself and used to work at an exotic pet/wildlife rescue, so I know reptiles pretty well. Seeing reptiles like baby crocs, tegus, and iguanas (some of which look very sickly likely from lack of good reptile husbandry at the time and having stuff literally glued on them) being forced to fight is very sad. You can clearly see the animals trying to get away at points or being forced to bite. I am defiantly glad this trend died and most people seeing this as animal abuse.
There's a troll in the comments below I think who is trying to claim that forcing animals to fight for entertainment as a documentary on human behavior. Like how stupid is that?
He's also trying to like in the animal abuse to watching a documentary of you know, real animals doing what they actually naturally do.
İm am an animal lover too
İf u couldnt tell by my profile picture
I mean, it is nostalgic but very sad
Something being nostalgic and something being okay aren't the same thing. It is like Principle Skinner said when trying on his old POW helmet "Oh this takes me back"
@@horsetuna There is some early wildlife footage of a tiger killing a crocodile got used in a lot of jungle adventure movies around this era too. Yeah, it is different.
Also, interesting fact, 1955’s Tarantula has the very first on screen appearance of Clint Eastwood! He plays the Jet Pilot who drops naplam on the giant spider.
I thought it was _Revenge of the Creature._ He was a comic relief lab assistant.
@@julietfischer5056 Tarantula was first. Revenge of the Creature was the first one where you could really see Eastwood. In Tarantula his face was mostly obscured by a flight helmet and mask. His role in Revenge of the Creature was also more substantial. His lines in Tarantula were pretty perfunctory, whereas he was given a modicum of characterization in Revenge of the Creature.
My greatest fear is meeting stock footage dinosaurs on an uncharted island.
or modern reptile that for some reason called dinosaur
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Something noteworthy, Ray Harryhausen recounted that he had a very hard time trying to replicate the live lizard technique for the 1960s version of One Million BC. Among other things, studio lights would put an iguana to sleep. This was probably only "popular" because many/ most examples reused 1 Miion BC footage instead of making their own. Edit: Also, he did use a real crab for Mysterious Island, but he put a stop motion armature in it. Needless to say, it was no longer alive at the time.
Mysterious Island is a great classic film.
I know that it was cruel to the animals but you have to admit there's something immediately recognizably unique about Slurpasaurs and I honestly wouldn't mind a revival of the aesthetic but using CGI instead live animals.
Sorta happened in Terra Nova where a moniter lizard like creature echoed the tacky lizard costumes, fines, spines and all.
or use live animals but cgi the different stuff onto them. (without abusing them ofc.)
Campy revival of 1850's dinosaurs engaged in a constant violent battle for no reason would be very funny
@@reinatakagawa those old goofy dinos would have been great in Primal
@@LarsTonguesInAspix Would be cool if they redid terra nova. Now that tv shows can have bigger budgets.
The lizard motion (slurpasaur) technique was so unique but the poor animals didn't have much fun.
God bless Harryhausen, who never stooped to this and always made creatures that seemed like an actual dinosaur. Gwangi was an excellent design but particularly brilliant considering how stupid his "competition" looked in films like King Dinosaur and Robot Monster.
(I edited this post slightly because the creator showed footage of the Rex suit from The Land Unknown in the opening montage, but the movie actually features slurpasaurs more than the Rex. King Dinosaur is all slurpasaur)
I think Ray Harryhausen was the best at stop-motion photography. There are a few documentaries about him, if you haven't already. :)
Hey Diego, I just found out about another piece of obscure dinosaur media that might be worth looking into. Civilization 2 apparently had an official expansion pack that allowed you to play as a scenario the rise of the dinosaurs. It was basically just a few graphics and texts swapped out but it looked pretty fun, with all the military units replaced by dinosaur species and the technology names being changed to body parts or lineages (like instead of airplanes you developed pterosaurs).
Sounds interesting. I'll have to look into it.
Civilization II: Fantastic Worlds. I've played that. The Age of Reptiles mode was hard, because it was military victory only with no nukes.
That sounds rad. I need to search for a play-thru or overview essay on that game. I've never played EVO but I just find game history wildly interesting. I think there's a war series where people work with dinos too? I'm a new sub, very cool if the channel does games too!
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 War series with dinosaurs? You might be thinking of Dino Riders. You can watch that here:
ua-cam.com/play/PLLhOnau-tupRpHH98erzMh3jrSCubyn2m.html
Unfortunately, there is no good game based on it.
As a tegu & caiman owner it was definitely harsh to observe that 1 million B.C. scene with the tegu and alligator clashing, I’m glad these practices ended ages ago.
I was thinking if Godzilla 1954 could be considered a “dinosaur film”. As in the original film,I remember Dr.Yamane said that Godzilla was “An intermediate species between marine reptile and terrestrial mammals.” Which making it “Synapsid that looks like dinosaurs”. And in many of the incarnations,Godzilla was portrayed as “Monster that looks like dinosaur while having a non dinosaur-related origin”. Heisei Godzilla was one of the exceptions that stated Godzilla was a mutated dinosaur called “Godzillasaurus”.
Thanks for the information. For a long time I always assume if godzilla was some sort of sea dragon, because of the iconic laser breath and the fact if it never referenced by characters as dinosaur in many of the incarnation so it must be something entirely different
In the Heisei films he's also just straight up a dinosaur. In Godzilla vs King Ghidorah we even see him pre-mutation!
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Well,different incarnations of Godzilla has different origins,while Heisei Godzilla was indeed a mutated dinosaur,other Godzillas have different origins.
Ironic that Heisei Godzilla is the only incarnation to be a Dinosaur, at the same time being the one with the most mammalian physical traits.
Alot of godzilla incarnations have different origins.
54 is a prehistoric kaiju awakened by nuclear bombs
55 is a prehistoric kaiju sealed away in a island fighting a different prehistoric kaiju
hanna barbera... they don't explain i think
heisei was a godzillasaurus that got mutated by atomic bombs
1998 was a mutated iguana
millenium.. i forgor 💀
mv godzilla is a prehistoric titan
2016 is a evolving tadpole that got too close to radiation
earth... i forgor agai 💀
I think the "give dinosaurs exaggerated features to make them more monstrous" trend is going to become worse (well as bad as you can get outside of real animal abuse) if "AI art" ever makes its way into actual movies and TV shows.
If you put a dinosaur prompt into Dall-E or whatever, the results look more like a disfigured Papo Rex or a Slurpasaur because that's what the algorithm will create out of the top "dinosaur" image results. Obviously every paleofan recognizes every single wrong detail of them, but if too many people of the general public give it a pass because "eh, it's close enough to what I think of when I hear the word dinosaur", there's some dark years for "dinosaur movies" ahead of us.
Considering there are people already selling books with "illustrations" made by AI, this is a genuinely concerning issue.
What do you think about the trailer for 65, the new dinosaur movie?
@@ExtremeMadnessX He's promising a lot !
Sure, the dinosaurs aren't accurate and are in a Jurassic Park look visually and the only species we get to see will be again the populars Trex and Velociraptor, but overall, in term of sequences, with the atmosphere and ralisation of the scenes themselves building tensions, scaring and actions, it's stand out pretty well !
Will be just a normal dino movie to pass a good time before it, but it's already sufficient.
Here, it's not about the dinos themselves we will have expectations but about the realisations and how they mange to made true scary moments with them, on that there all the expectations to be r=really well done.
And I hope so on that.
@@dudotolivier6363 I really hope they can somehow give them better designs.
@@kade-qt1zu The dinosaurs depiction and the accuracy of their designs isn't he main goal of this movie.
"65" by Sam Raimi and the people behind "A Quiet Place" movie is a science-fiction thriller-action movie.
It's on his tension, scary level and actions sequences on which he must succeed.
Plus, for the movie's defense by advance, the setting will be in a alien planet, so where the evolution was different. So, if the dinos don't look accurate at all, like they were, will be normal and made sens in the same time.
Will more be like a modern version of "Planet of the Dinosaurs" from 1977 than anything else.
Another instance of Reptile abuse, although not related to the slurpasaur stuff is in Friday The 13th when they kill the snake. Not only was it needlessly brutal, it was unscripted and the snake's owner was under the impression the poor animal wouldn't be hurt. That scene makes me tear up every time, I can't imagine how the snake or the handler felt.
The history of slurpasaurs is exceptionally depressing. Regarding suspension of disbelief of audiences at the time, many of the animals used wouldn't have been seen outside of these contexts by most people. They knew they weren't dinosaurs but they were probably still exotic and strange to the audience in a way that drew attention to the films. That's one reason armadillos were used in a lot of horror films in the silent era. They seemed strange and exotic, so put them in Dracula's castle. Heh.
Night of the Lepus has my favorite slurpasaurs that you didn't mention, perhaps because they're just so ridiculous. The Killer Shrews is hilarious to watch. I do think it's probably best that they ditched the slurpasaur that was going to be in Aliens, but the behind the scenes footage of a dog in a xenomorph costume is very amusing.
Of course I hope the trend of live animals abused for film dies a much needed and long-overdue death now that CGI is so versatile. Animals may not be fought to the death in major films anymore, but investigations have found the treatment and risks they endure is far from great, despite the "no animals were harmed" blurb at the end. For example, the tiger used in the live animal scenes in Life of Pi almost drowned. There are some good investigative journalist articles on the topic, documenting the corruption in the humane society in Hollywood. When special effects can be done without the potential risk and stress to animals (especially un-domesticated animals like big cats that really aren't kept in ideal conditions once they leave the movie set, either), it should be.
Jim Henson's Dinosaurs sitcom also uses the Gator Tegu fight stock footage in a scene where Earl is watching wrestling on TV.
oh yeah, i think i remember that, its coming back to me now
That's hilarious.
Good thing Hollywood has retired this technique IMO. Passing off a lizard as a dinosaur in a movie, no matter how cheap, is not worth the animal abuse.
Yes, but now you can see all sorts of animal abuse on social media, inclyding UA-cam. par example... the videos about turtles with colourful barnacle, and then jewlry etc., glue all over their shells. This kills the turtle slowly as the shell is part of the living integument of the the animal. Then these arses remove what they glued to the poor benighted creature claiming they found them like that, or worse...they sell them as living(but not well and not for long) decorations. Then there's the whole "rescues kitten/puppy from situations the "rescuers' put the animals in, in the first place. People can be pretty vile just to get a like on socmed. :(
If it's just an iguana crawling around it's not hardly abuse. It is however painfully stupid. Humans are animals too, so I guess in a way it is animal abuse.
Filming a lizard walking around is not abuse...
Filming them just walking is not really abuse, but gluing a fin on a caimans back and having it fight a Tegu lizard ( wonder if the caiman killed it) can sure be considered cruelty.
The only slurpasaur film that I personally love is Quest for Fire! At least the animals in that movie didn't seem to be hurt.
One of the (many) issues with slurpasaurs is that dinosaur legs are directly beneath the animal, not splayed out to the side like a lizard. Dimetrodon is not a dinosaur, and may well have had lizard legs.
As someone who has kept many different species of monitor lizard as well as a few Tegu lizards, that fight scene from the original One Million B.C. is particularly distressing as most Tegus in captivity usually become quite docile and trusting. In the climax of that film there is an Asian water monitor, another intelligent and easily tamed reptile that clearly has one foot tied down during the "volcano eruption" scene and real flames are seen burning the side of its head. I don't mind them using the animals as dinosaurs, but there was absolutely no reason for the sadistic brutality by the assholes who made the film. They could have, and should have, found another way using their much touted "Hollywood magic".
Yes, I completely agree.
I won't lie, the iguanas with a sail on their back didn't look like a half bad Dimetrodon.
And there is something fun about using a giant lizard for a monster, obviously its completely inaccurate. Now if they could have put the costumes on without hurting the animals that would have been much much better.
Edit: HEY That was Attack of the Killer Shrews or... something like that. That was a fun movie, and it was just dogs wearing a mantle. Greyhounds IIRC.
The dogs honestly looked more funny then scary in the clips shown
@@pocketmarcy6990 I saw it in Black and White and it worked a bit better
Worth mentioning the archosauromorph reptile Shringasaurus discovered in 2017, which looks remarkably similar to the rhino iguana with horns from the 1960s Lost World remake.
I grew up seeing many examples of both stop-motion and slurposaurs… it both bothered me and tempted me. I asked for a lizard and my reason was so I could attach a spinal sail to it and have my own dinosaur. Luckily, although I did get a lizard… and although I did cut the spinal sail off of a plastic model… I couldn’t see it working without hurting the lizard.
It lived for six years, tormenting me with the responsibility of getting bugs for it to eat.
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25:57 I'm glad you included the Hollywood Dinosaur quote, because I think it's easy to look back at old film trends and say, "wow, people believed whatever they saw!" I know I thought that way several years ago when I saw a slurpasaurus in the classic Flash Gordon series.
I am happy that we as humans have progressed enough to deem such animal cruelty wrong.
Yes, some fringe elements are there and will always be. But we have made so much headway.
Thanks for the video
I kinda like the looks of giant lizards as “dinosaurs”. Though obviously, it would be far easier to achieve this in an ethical manner, in the modern day.
And obviously any animal fights would either be CGI, or done with puppetry.
@@AJSSPACEPLACE Correct! As an artistic expression, I love it
Interestingly, at least one of the banthas in the first Star Wars (A New Hope) was played by an elephant in a costume. Also, the Corellian hounds seen on Ferrix in Andor are played by costumed dogs, too.
These type of "slurpasaur" are acceptable since the animal are just scenery, have just outfits adding on them and just at maximum walk in front of the screen. Nothing more.
A good majority of the movies and productions in this video show that in many extents.
i am honestly suprised you did not mention a trend similar to slurpasaurs which used enlarged rats and bunnies for the monsters. Examples include:"food of the gods","food of the gods 2 " which is a sequel to food of the gods,"night of the lepus" which uses rabbits, and a movie that would have been made by Daei called "giant horde beast nezura" which would have been made to cash in on that giant monster craze it would have been brought to life by putting live rats on city set but that would not have been made due to difficulties making the film
It's possible he might do this in the future, although this film was specifically about dinosaurs and just happened to note that other animals were used as well in passing such as elephants for mammoths
@@horsetuna there was a section in the video were he talked about movies that used simular ideas i am just suprised he did not mention the terrifying pet store rat in that section
@@WhatDillionYT you're right Fair enough.
Oh, even better! The Nezura production didn't use tame, trained pet store rats, it used honest to goodness sewer rats. Untrained, wild, disease-carrying sewer rats. This obviously did not work.
@@cqmorrell well they first used tame rats but then they used sewer rats which were destroying the set...
but not in the way they wanted....
I feel bad for these animals, specially the ones that were forced to fight.
Did the tegu even survive that beating?
@@Skyypixelgamer I don't think so--later in the video, we see a shot that looked like the fight was basically over. I'm glad that standards of animal treatment in movies are completely different now.
@@zoyadulzura7490 yeah thank god for that
@@Skyypixelgamer no, it didn’t
Interesting breakdown. Actually, I've written a book entitled OPERATION RED DRAGON: THE DAIKAIJU WARS, PART ONE that intentionally incorporates a a Slurposaur as one of the named monsters. He's described (and drawn) to look like an alligator with fins and horns on him, and a dangling tongue, of course. I included him as part of the homage to the works which inspired it. So in a way, I might be the only person left in the world still using the trend.
(If ever realized on film, of course, I would never endorse using an actual alligator.)
Ah yes the one that attacks the submarines and battleship before the final battle! Warriah (i think i’m spelling it right) was my favorite monster from the book actually! Felt the most intimidating to me. Atomic rex has a few monsters that could be likened to slurpasaurs in it as well. I’m content with the asthetic referenced in the forms of original creatures while being portrayed by non live animals. The practice was unconvincing and immoral, but there’s just a way that it catches ones eye that makes me guiltily intrigued so it seems at least a modest source of inspiration.
That's an interesting way of looking at it. Essentially continuing the trend, but in the form of literature. Definitely the more responsible way of doing it at least.
@@DinoDiego16 your new this video comes out at a convenient time because I was actually going to write about this phenomenon in a Sci-Fi series I'm working on. How might I get official permission to mention you in a complimentary way in the writing?
Thank goodness it's not used anymore - it was animal abuse, plain and simple
I have lizards and it was hard to watch , I bet this video is gonna get flagged 😢
Yeah
Agreed
It seems like in the past, people didn’t have any empathy for animals.
I absolutely agree!!!🙏🤔
Phil Tippets "Prehistoric Beast is beautiful, appreciate you showing clips from it, one of the best stop motion dino films.
Isn't that the guy who jokingly was blamed for all of the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park escaping, because he had been credited with being the dinosaur supervisor?
One of the lesser known examples of this trend is actually from one of the most famous franchises of all time.
In Star Wars: A New Hope, the large furry creatures called “Banthas” on Tatooine were portrayed by a costume wearing elephant. Additionally, the Tusken Raiders in the Bantha scenes were played by the elephant’s trainers, who after each take would reward her with apples.
An excellent video. I definitely sympathize with you on the tegu/croc battle scene. It pained me to have to watch two animals literally fight to the death for cheap entertainment like a sick exotic cock fight. I'm very glad that we live in a time where there are more strict protections for all critters in films.
“I miss the good ol’ days of cinema.” -👴🏼
Disregarding the more important matter of the animal cruelty, which is completely beyond the pale and essentially evil, I have absolutely no time for film producers who think they can pass off lizards or alligators as dinosaurs. It is lazy and an insult.
As bad as it sounds, I’m just glad they didn’t reuse the coati snake clip
My heart goes out to every animal involved in that movie, but you just know that snake didn’t survive and that’s just heartbreaking,. Easily the most difficult thing I’ve seen in cinema as a snake owner
I think saying that the horned armadillo is supposed to be a glyptodon is giving them way too much credit. They probably glued those horns onto the poor critter without any knowledge of the ice age mammal.
And, ethical dilemmas aside, I do think the rhino iguanas look good as dimetrodons in Journey to the Center of the Earth.
Imagine if modern day movies could just get away with reusing clips of an older movie. Like a new alien invasion type movie comes out and they just splice in clips from Independence Day.
That would be hard to do today for a very simple reason: Copyright.
@@Werezilla that and people would quickly notice it due the internet
Austin Powers made that in sort of type of joke in the second movie, they literally used the clip of Independence Day with the aliens blowing up the White House with Doctor Evil even saying it was from Independence Day.
There's an infamous sci-fi movie that is best known by its nickname "Turkish Star Wars", because it contains recycled footage from Star Wars.
Occasionally you can find a low budget direct to "video" film that will recycle old film footage. I know the movie badass recycled a bus wreck scene from another movie
As a kid I found this so disturbing due to how awful it was for the animals. Sad many innocent animals suffered for absolutely jokes of a film (not saying it's better if it's a good movie(
Who cares it’s funny stop wasting my air wit pushy shi
@Shinichi animal abuse is not funny. You really can't read a room, can you? What a stupid comment. Hopefully, you will grow up soon, jabron.
@@shinichi6235 bro thinks abusing animals is funny
Lol,who cares slurpasaurs are the best
@@aeerjgyehgyuierhjgukjlr everyone dumass
Crazy how back then you could lift entire scenes from other movies with no repercussions, but now you use a 2 seconds clip from a movie and the studio will come down on you like a ton of bricks
Yeah, I remember watching some of the few movies that involve basically gluing prosthetics on reptiles and letting them fight.
So it’s strange how these movies kind of get left out of instances of animal abuse on camera. I always hear about cannibal Holocaust and cyclone but rarely stuff past the color age.
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As a kid watching this I was also hella confused how nobody other than me was ever appalled by the obvious animal abuse. I think it really goes down to the general public just having less sympathy for reptiles.
@@manospondylus4896 ppl only show sympathy to cute mammals
@@toniotrussardi8126 People typically only show empathy to animals if it doesn't require effort or the animal is a dog, rats for example are proven to show empathy to other rats such as bringing food to injured rats but people still default to killing one's they find in the house rather than using more humane methods.
@@orangeninjapocket603 there are entire books about how if you really want to make someone appear evil in a movie, you have to have them hurt a cat or a dog.
One of the books about the phenomenon how to write good movies is called, save the cat
No animals were harmed in the making of this movie. (The filmmakers wish to make it clear that this statement does not extend to the making of other movies from which they may or may not have stolen footage)
17:35 Fun fact: They reused the sound effects of a group of elephants from another film that Star Wars ended up using as the basis for the TIE fighter sound effects.
As a reptile keeper myself, this made sad. thank you for making this video about spreading the information because before this, i had know idea about this trend. also, im still gonna make fun of you calling it tegu lol.
XD I'm glad you liked the video
I'm going to make fun of his incorrect use of the phrase "that of" and his mispronunciation of "coati." 🙂
What an excellent video! 😃
As a kid, I was an avid dino fan and had many books, toys and model kits. Those old films with lizards etc, dressed as dinosaurs never convinced me one bit.
I always preferred the stop-motion ones.
15:47 At least the Journey to the Center of the Earth adaptation uses lizards to play as Dimetrodons and not dinosaurs. I know that wasn't intentional, but at least they didn't show an Iguana and call it a T. rex. It's still bad they painted a Monitor Lizard red and called it a Chameleon, rather than using an actual Chameleon.
Thats even worse
As dimetrodon was an ancestor to mammals and wasn't a reptile
@@gergopiroska5749 At least they weren't called dinosaurs, and Dimetrodon does look very similar to some modern lizards, even though they are more related to mammals than they are to reptiles.
@@jacobcox4565 tbh i don't hate old movies as they have their charm
But calling an iguana with glued on horns a tyrannosaur is fucking terrible
Whats even worse is that they already knew the basic look of dinosaurs
@@gergopiroska5749 It's just insulting the audience's intelligence
@@jacobcox4565 exactly
There are two slurpasaurs in the first chapter of the original Buster Crabbe ”Flash Gordon” that work quite well. They’re two monstrous reptiles on an alien world, so they fit in better than ”playing” dinosaurs.
Glad slurpasaurus are no longer in use, besides at best looking rather goofy and silly, and at worst looking lazy and shitty, this technique is just straight up animal abuse, the footage of the tegu and alligator was especially uncomfortable, seeing those poor dudes fighting is just sad. And other examples, with the “mammoth” elephant with its fur, especially knowing how intelligent elephants are, it looked especially agitated. When they fight to the death especially is just tragic.
17:35 that sounds just like a TIE Fighter, and 17 years before Star Wars
Probably the same stock sound effect.
8:23 something is wrong with that alligator’s mouth. It looks like it is missing a lot of teeth.
17:15 It looks like if Jirass (or Jirahs) from Ultraman was quadrupedal.
(Which btw is literally a repainted Godzilla suit… with a frill.)
I feel like films like King Kong and the original Jurassic world and the JP trilogy don't really count, since those were scientifically recreated, were new mutated forms or something, however I did not like when JW dominion tried to pass off the giga as the "original version" like that thing is just a really big concavinator mixed with a croc
Gluing a sail to an iguana and calling it a Dimetrodon works a hell of a lot better than the other reptile shortcuts. It looks more like a Dimetrodon than the other efforts.
The series _Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea_ would recycle footage from _The Lost World_ in a few episodes. Both were Irwin Allen productions, starring David Hedison.
Actually I do remember some TV shows in the 90s like The Adventures of Sinbad and Beastmaster using slurposaurs though it was an obvious green screen.
As a 71 year old man who grew up watching these sorts of things, it felt somewhat normal to me. Like, I'm not saying I support a baby alligator with a Dimetrodon sail on its back beheading a tegu but given the time they were all made, the makers really just want to make something as realistic as possible and something that excites the audience without spending huge bucks on stop motion. I felt like it's clever that they used real animals, but it was also a bad thing that some of them have the animals fight. And like you said, animal rights were really not understood well at that time...
Also, I wouldn't blame the creators for using reptiles as stand-ins for dinosaurs, they really just fit this sort of monstrous look and behaviour towards them.
Honestly, animals don't have rights. Rights are a creation of human beings, and humans only enjoy them if they're willing to fight for them. Whatever 'rights' animals are perceived to have are simply what mercy we are willing to extend them.
It’s funny because all those films suck compared to new films of today that don’t have any animals getting hurt.
@@thisguysgaming7246 Well, that was the past...
@colbyprice-lampkin7547 nobody ever said that they weren't terrible people but if you don't know better you can't do better. Animal rights just weren't a consideration so it was accepted at the time and as awful as it was at least society has learned from it
@@aebhosor4835 exactly everything from the past is a weaker and less evolved version of todays world.
Im a reptile owner who also works at a reptile zoo, I HATE THIS OLD METHOD! Its so damn cruel
I can't believe you didn't talk about the fact that the special effects director for King Kong vs Godzilla, Eiji Tsuburaya, ate one of the three octopi who played the Giant Octopus after its scenes were done.
Also, the Giant Octopus; who's official name is Oodako, was so popular that he showed up in a reshot ending of Frankenstein Conquers the World, then in the sequel, War of the Gargantuas, both as props iirc, not live octopi.
I would be fine if Slurpasaurs returned in a less cruel way. They could make the spikes and horns CGI and not include any scenes of the animals fighting or getting killed.
There was also that point about them looking nothing like dinosaurs, but they could just be referred to as "prehistoric reptiles" instead of dinosaurs.
17:03/17:05 Why does it remind me of Shringasaurus?
Wow this video really brings back some memories. At the science museum in my hometown they used to have monthly screenings of old sci Fi movies including some of the ones shown here! I honestly love the old cheesy special effects, especially the slurposaurs. I hate when they fight eachother or get hurt on screen though :(
Ah yes, my favorite dinosaur, Alligator dressed up to look like a Stegoceratops being called a T-Rex.
I remember seeing a snippet of The Lost World on TV and wincing at the sight of the monitor and alligator mauling each other. I didn't like what I see because I could tell those were real animals being forced to fight in an unnatural scenario.
The Slurpasaur technique is goofy at first glance, but I can't help but feel bad for the animals involved in. Especially since they had to fight to the death for entertainment. As others have said, maybe the Slurpasaur technique can return in CGI rather than live animals. Omni Viewer payed homage to the Slurpasaur technique through the monster Wanirah in his novel "Operation Red Dragon: The Daikaiju Wars Part 1"
Perhaps in a matter of coincidence, but just before this came out I had a plot idea involving this phenomenon for my sci-fi comedy series using these old movies
I wonder if I can get away with actually mentioning Dino Diego in the writing as one of the vigorously researched footage used
Lol who cares slurpasaurs are the best!
@@TerriazeCAPCUTeditor What do you mean by "who cares"?
@@TerriazeCAPCUTeditor abuse is never cool
Thank you for bringing attention to this!
Lol rumor has it the last thing you see before you die is the alligator and tegu fighting clip
If that how it goes then I’m not dieing 😭😂
Similar to the stop motion crab is Raccacoonie from Everything Everywhere All At Once, which is an actual taxidermied racoon filled with animatronics.
Funny that in Jurassic World franchise is that Giganotosaurus gets very tall keratin spikes almost like a sail but Mosasaurus doesn't have a flicking forked tongue like the real animal did because of fears that audiences would think it was made up.
you know what would be awesome... stupid but awesome? a movie where they use the slurpasaurus, and all the old setups for use normal animal for the "giant monster" trope..... but only 1 character is convinced of it while the rest are like "something looks off here...." or the reverse where everyone is convinced and only one guy is like "uhh... is that a green screen?"
when you said these props were glued on I gasped in horror. This is disgusting. I’m glad this isn’t a thing anymore
The silhouette shown in the thumbnail looks like the costumed lizard used in the 1928 “Mysterious Island” with Lionel Barrymore. Gonna check on that. They built a fairly elaborate costume for their lizard.
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Hey wait a minute, that's the Tie Fighter sound effect from Star Wars
I can't believe that Jurassic World ripped off Stegoceratops from The Lost World
More like an homage
My favorite example of a slurpasaur would be in the 1982 film Deadly Eyes. In that they used dachshunds (dressed as giant rats) for the movie's monsters, creating an effect that was way more adorable than terrifying.
Awesome! I'll have to watch it.
Slurposaurs are still used today in poor countries.
Also the killer shrews is one of my favorite "bad" movies.
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Oh that's a real insect. it's a Mole Cricket. a very gentle and cute bug. one of my favorites.
I can't really confirm if this is true or not, as I heard it from an old video about the history of Kong movies so take this with a grain of salt
But apparently at some point before the 50s or 60s but a company wanted to get the license to King Kong and use it to make a cheap action adventure adaption that would have used Slurpasaurus. If I recall correctly they would have a scene where a trained chimpanzee or gorilla (who I guessed would play Kong) would have fought a Komodo Dragon or Crocodile (being passed off as a T. rex). But like I said, I really can't confirm if this was a real concept or something that the old UA-camr made up.
Could you imagine if this actually happened
Director "Why do our trained Chimps keep dying after one day of production?"
Animal Handler: "I don't know, they only got bit by the Komodo Dragon a couple of times."
There’s a 1920s german film called Die Nibelungen that used a giant animatronic dragon. It was operated by a group of people and can breathe fire.
You should see the one they use today for the Drachenstich festival. It's the world's largest walking robot.
They could have literally just had a crocodile and it would be a perfectly acceptable deinosuchus. But they had to glue wings on it.
If someone calls a person "soft" for not wanting to watch needless animal cruelty for no real reason, they need to seek help, and probably be locked away.
Agreed but people are calling Dino Diego soft in the comments anyway because "it happened 50 years ago". Horrible....
Fun Fact (sort of):
The giant octopus in Godzilla VS King Kong was acted by *four* different *octopi.* By the end of shooting, *three* of the octopi were *released,* while the *fourth* was *eaten* by the special effects director.
Id like to see a revival of slurpasaurs where the animals are treated as actors and not slaves to die. Just use cgi for any fight scenes.
Using sushi is kinda dope though, gotta give Harryhausen credit for style.
Or if it’s me making it, some other practical effects. I really want to see what a modern Slurpasaur movie would look like, so (probably not right now because of the weekly videos) I’m gonna do that at some point.
No modern animal looks like a dinosaurs
Not even modern dinosaurs (birds) look like their ancient cousins
my iguana hank has headshots available for any filmmakers out there, he told me to tell you that he doesn’t do his own stunts for reasons seen in your video,
I’m assuming you’re his agent then?
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 sort of , I usually work as his literary agent, helping him secure his book deals , he’s a renaissance lizard, truly
In the 1960 version of ''The Lost world'', there was also a scene of two lizards made to pass for dinosaurs, fighting to the death. Scenes of Lizards as dinosaurs from both ''The Lost World'' and ''The Mysterious Island'' would keep popping up on Irwin Allen produced TV shows in the 1960's such as ''Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea'', ''The Time Tunnel'', and ''Lost In Space''.
Also, there was the 1929 version of ''The Mysterious Island'', where a sea monster was ''played'' by a baby alligator. . The unlucky just hatched creature was actually set on fire and filmed burning to death.
Poor alligators
The Tegu is an Brazilian (from what i know) monitor lizard who are wandering, and here we call him "Téiu"
Tegus aren't monitor lizards, but they did converge on the same lifestyle as them. Their closest relatives are more obscure, like worm lizards and racerunners
@@nmheath03 thanks for the information my guy
Poor lizards. 🙁
I kind of want to make an intentionally cheesy horror short about a praying mantis. I honestly think I might just record a mantis waking around on a miniature. Maybe somehow I'll make a stop motion puppet. I won't hurt it or anything, I'll probably just coax one onto something, record it, and let it go on with its life. Idk, I have lots of ideas for intentionally cheesy horror films, like The Pair Of Shoes THAT EATS!!! Anyways, sorry for that little rant. I have some stop motion on my channel (self promo) and I might be able to make a stopmotion mantis puppet
Giant shrews is actually a very terrifying Prospect.
Most animals are terrifying when they're scaled up to a certain size.
@@RokuroCarisu sure, but I think shrews would be especially ferocious.
movies before animal rights were crazy. theres scene in either the first or second black lagoon movie where the monster straight up grabs a real crane by ts real neck and drags it under the water. and thats a pretty tame example
Honorable mentions Them and the Black Scorpion. About radioactive ant's and Scorpion's.
But, those were puppets and stop-motion
I’m kinda glad CGI exists so people don’t have to keep doing stuff like this, or not even this but just using real animals and abusing them for a film set, because now we can do fake but realistic CG animals. The history of these Slurpasaurus is really sad to me, though I hope one day a movie or show comes out with Slurpasaurus remade into CGI, like idk maybe a One Million Years BC remake with new Slurpasaurus for the giant iguana. I even made my own monster that I just realised it similar to theses with it being a frilled giant monitor lizard with a spinosaurus spine and the tail of a ankylosaurus, it was basically animal that accidentally got mixed with other animals and dinosaurs and mutated to what it is now, so it’s not really meant to be a dinosaur since it’s more of a animal hybrid but theses still reminded me of it. Maybe a movie can have a similar concept for Slurpasaurus or just have them be natural animals, idk. Would like a 40s One Million BC or One Million Years BC remake