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Talking of historical disability: I did my undergrad dissertation paper on Disability in the Middle Ages. We have found the burial of a guy in Italy (thought to be a mercenary) who lost his arm at some point so straight up replaced it with a sword blade.
@filthy_weeb _ I think he means that it's cute that they spoiled her with dates. And it really is super hecking wholesome... at least until she died due to tooth rot, that was a bummer and potentially caused a major medical realisation among the tribe.
It should be noted about the woman who was buried with a full warrior's honor that many societies across human history have held a great reverence/fear of the act of childbirth. Spartans, Aztecs, Norse, and many others saw no real difference between birth and battle, so women who died in childbirth or had many children/shown themselves to be righteous mothers were treated as warriors when they passed
Seems fitting that she received so many honours since she likely suffered her disability in the act of childbirth and overcame that to be a badass warrior
@Samueldedieu because for a woman who doesnt actually want a child, child birth is extremely painful and they would most likely RATHER have an std than have a child that they do not even wish to raise.
Taking care of disabled individuals is not actually limited to humans. Many social animals like cattle, sheep, dogs, etc. have been observed acting as guides for blind and deaf animals. While they can’t always necessarily stop predators from getting some individuals more easily, I wouldn’t say that most animals just don’t care if disabled members of their herd/group/pack are killed. Social animals mourn just like us. Evolving to be social and care about other individuals is just a good way for many species to survive.
@@desertsane ding ding ding! Yep, I’m disabled. Not to a severe extent, but enough to warrant a diagnosis. why do you believe disabled people should be shot, by the way? Do you believe we are suffering from a famine so severe that letting them eat is a “waste of food?” Even those who made amazing contributions to the world like Stephen Hawking?
@@desertsane so you are suggesting that if you had children that were born with a disability you would kill them. Or what if you developed a disability? Would you volunteer yourself to be killed? Or are you a hypocrite who wouldn’t like the taste of their own medicine
Able-bodied cavemen would've experienced a lot of injuries and disease themselves, if their communities didn't have space for the sick and injured, there wouldn't be enough of them to form a community at all.
Neanderthal dad: Oh no no my daughter is bad disease I give her sweet to be happy Spartan dad: Did you fall over? DID YOU JUST FALL OVER? _Grabs sword_
Nothing makes me happier than knowing that there was a girl in ancient history who’s family loved her so much they not only took care of her but gave her so many sweet treats that it’s actively visible thousands of years later.
“Leave me son, give me a spear. When the war party enters the valley I will send the rocks tumbling upon them.” “But how will you hear them?” He sits down against a large bolder near the cliff, straining against the pain of the gash in his side and sets his good hand on the ground. “I may not hear well but their numbers are many, I may feel them. Time is short. Go now son.” “We will come back for you Nandy...” “Only do so when it is safe. I am proud of the leader you have become my son. When it is over, commit my body to the spirits...” “I will nandy...dammit I will...”
Ricardo Smarts To be honest I think it’s funny that you can somehow manage to have a lower IQ than the Neanderthals talked about in this video and remain a contributing member of modern society. Oh wait. (You aren’t.)
Have you read about Seneb from ancient Egypt? He was a dwarf who lived during the Old Kingdom and was highly respected in royal courts, and it's believed that people with dwarfism like him were highly associated with Bes, the god of children and respected as such in society. Unfortunately when they found his tomb his sarcophagus was empty so we don't have his physical body to examine, but we know he was a dwarf because the Egyptians had a word for it that he was described as being in his tomb's inscriptions, and there's a statue of him with his wife that presents him with dwarf-like proportions while his wife appears with able-bodied proportions next to him. Really interesting stuff.
@@jonnypballin Based on what I was able to find, the sarcophagus is 184cm in length so it's likely it wasn't made with his proportions in mind. There is a chance it could have belonged to his wife Senetites but since their mummies weren't found with the tomb and the tomb itself was robbed long before its rediscovery, it's impossible to say.
As someone with autism, sometimes I wonder if anyone would have noticed if I was different. A lot of disabilities are exacerbated by modern circumstances
I think they would not really care as long as you help hunt or pick berries. But they would have found it weird that you act differently or couldn't pick up on social cue.
i honestly think it would be a lot more noticeable because they didn't have words, you had no ways to communicate except body language and cues autistic people have trouble with
@@Live_XP I mean, if you think about it, modern society has more ways of discriminating and marginalising us than back then, surely? We can ask a series of questions that highlight this. What kind of social cues would those be? The modern society's demand of maintaining eye contact when speaking modern society's language? Or getting frustrated at us for being unable to read between the lines of the overly flowery conversations allistics have? Or how we're forced to mask and act like smiling suited corpos? Or how we aren't allowed to stim? Or how we can't eat what we WANT, or DRESS in what we want, even though not eating/dressing comfortably sets off our sensory issues? Or how we are mocked on every form of media, and the whole world thinks autistics are all non-verbal caricatures? Society has not been kind to us...
Nah, I'm sure there are a ton of people with autism that have passed by through history without mention of it being a possibility or issue. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of artists and writers were high functioning autistic, and even a few emperors in hereditary monarchies as well. I really would not doubt it, seeing some of the decisions they make.
Considering that neurodivensity has persisted, they're likely advantageous traits to have within a group. If everyone gets along, that's great, but there's also a boon to having one or two group members that are less gregarious and more, for instance, attentive to tasks they hyperfix on.
I've got type 1 diabetes, so I'd be dead at age 5. Interesting fact: the ancient Egyptians had a test for diabetes, by pouring urine near an ant hill. If the ants went to the urine, they had "the starving disease", because they figured out that starving the child with diabetes made them live longer than feeding them.
They also has a similar test in ancient China. Also fun fact the reason why there are a lot of type 1 diabetes in people of northern Scandinavia decent is because type 1 diabetes acts as a sort of “anti-freeze” for the body because of how much sugar is in the blood.
We don't know that Nandy was a total burden. He might have known how to do certain things really well, such as making tools with his one good arm. He might have had knowledge that was worth remembering in pre-literate society, like the making of pitch. He would still have been able to keep watch and raise alarms, such as looking out over the valley for animals, or sitting with small children, or tending a fire.
@@keyfiregamez2036 I agree because, truly, everyone is a “burden”. We all require help, understanding , care, and teamwork. So actually, no one is a burden, we are working as intended. But we live in societies that set a portion of us up to fail and FEEL like burdens… when we are just people, as intended. :(
@@asmrtpop2676 Totally right. I have autism (asperger's), anxiety, and other minor things. I feel heavy physical pain in school and i dont want to go. I am already preparing to be a youtuber, but i my family thinks im just a "burden". I cant go to school and im not sure if i can finish it. It doesnt matter how much i say i will be monetized one day, they dont care. According to them, i am a burden and a failure. :(
The idea that humans took care of their disabled is not that weird, even when compared to other animals who do tend to reject their sick young. To make a human child takes a shit ton of resources and you can only have about one per year. A cat or a dog has a litter as a fail safe. If one of them is unlikely to survive, there is always backup.
Yeah, and babies and toddlers are incredibly "disabled". We are evolutionarily adapted to take care of our young, to raise them to a point in which they can survive on their own. If an infant is born blind or deaf, or even lame, we might not know for awhile, and our overriding sense of protecting or nurturing the child will have kicked in. We're also pretty resilient, and can heal after a broken leg or arm.
Not so resilient as having a failsafe net in the form of society. If you break your crucial limb out in the wild on your own it would probably doom you. It takes a "doctor" that can put a splint on it and a sulprus of resources that can be spend on your rehabilitating ass so you don't have to risk your health any further. In these conditions pretty much any animal can recover from such a blow.
It's also worth remembering that, depending on the disability, an otherwise not able-bodied member of the society could still be made to contribute. So long as they have manual dexterity in their hands, they could be made to perform tasks that require it, like weaving or sculpting clay. A person with a mental disability might have enough cognitive power to do simple tasks, like gathering wood or picking mushrooms. There's also the matter of a disabled member of the group being a potential _mental_ good, since a person who can't do anything will have a great deal of time to _think_ . Which, in turn, can lead them to insight, and even primitive philosophy. Many mystics throughout human history were folks who had some kind of abnormality, which primitive people might see as a sign of supernatural wisdom. Now, this doesn't invalidate the existence of members whose disabilities made them unable to do anything. Because - especially in the early stages of the disability being known - there always existed the possibility that the person could get better, or could be put to use in some fashion. Even if that never happens, and objectively the person is more a burden than a help, by the point that becomes apparent the group would have long since become emotionally invested in them. They are family.
Pooch yes but when you compare these observations to early human civilisations - or even recent societies - and their treatment of disabled people, which is referred to in the beginning of this video, then it’s quite shocking by contrast
Danistormborn Not really. Although philosophers thought that way, we know that individuals didn't (outside of Sparta). There's evidence that ancient and medieval societies took care of disabled people. The video also frames disabled people as being completely useless and only a burden, but that's simply ridiculous. Someone had to tend to the settlement, someone had to prepare foods, someone had to watch and tear children. Disabled individuals could do many of these things.
as an autistic person just wanted to add in a little something bout us. some scientists believe that early autistic humans were commonplace and operated both within human social groups and sometimes tangential to them as specialists in specific skills. this is likely where the autistic trait of special interests originated. resources or tasks that were complicated or tedious might have been avoided by the layperson, but social groups may have engaged in trade with isolated autistic individuals who habitually sought these tasks out as a special interest. much cave art has also been suggested to have been made by autistic individuals.
My grandma had a friend growing up who was clearly autistic, but no one knew what that was back then. He was really popular because he was great at voice impressions. He was kinda a local celebrity.
It has occurred to me that our preference for highly specializing in certain areas and desire to repeat the same routine over and over would have been very beneficial in a farming community, and even today, autists are often successful farmers! 😊
@@demonyearzI’ve seen some people suggest that ADHD would’ve been helpful in hunting. I don’t know too much about it myself but I’ve seen some people make good cases for it!
TREY: Makes a video about how humans have always showed an incredible amount of empathy towards their fellow man, no matter what time in history. The comment section: Ooonga Chonga OOonga chonga
Leon Hill still that doesn’t mean every spartan or nazi was Necessarily bad not every nazi or spartan was a cruel monster most of them were but not all
Leon Hill ehh every point in history not all people were horrible and of people were monsters but a very small few helped people he saying at any point in human history people helped people
@@arrfffff7455 I agree, but there is a difference between "a video about how humans have 'always showed' an incredible amount of empathy towards their fellow man, no matter what time in history." and " every point in history not all people were horrible."
This reminds me of a story about anthropologist Margaret Mead. ‘Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal. broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts. We are at our best when we serve others. Be civilised.’
That's interesting, but I want to note that generally nowadays in anthropology "civilization" is considered to have begun at a specific period wherein agriculture and permanent settlements began (about 10,000 years ago). Other definitions of "civilized" which refer to morality or language are heavily criticized and rarely used outside some traditionalist circles. They also originated from colonizers, so yeah that's pretty bad.
I've seen with my own eyes a troop of baboons that would walk for 5 minutes then wait for the one baboon. This baboon had it's hand and foot torn off and half it's face. As the wounds looked healed. Compassion isn't just a human thing.
When I was little I saw a gaggle of geese where one had just one foot and hopped on land. But in the water he was just as fast as the others (despite presumably having a different swimming method, couldn’t rly see for the colour of the river)
About Nandy, I’d guess that even though he couldn’t hunt, and he’d take up food, he would still be able to make up for it through other skills. Nandy was really old for the time, meaning very experienced. He could have been a wiz at making tools, clothes, medicine, tracking, child care, etc. Just because you can’t run, doesn’t mean that you are useless.
I want to see that warrior woman's story with the bad hip. That would be awesome. The lady with polio having a ton of cavities is also the sweetest thing, pun intended.
@@znightowlz6585 a few seconds after 15:35 it's mentioned that the injury probably happened in child birth. Not sure if that means when she was born or in labor. Sounds more like the latter
Nahome Tesfay I doubt it happened in child birth. What I said is the most likely scenario but it’s impossible to say for sure. Child birth seems like the less likely if not equally likely scenario.
Neanderthals definitely weren’t dumb, savage brutes. They’ve found Neanderthal graves that contain the remnants of body paint and flowers, indicating they lovingly and ritualistically buried their dead, much like we do. That also tells me they probably felt grief as well.
@@benzymthey were most likely not really intellectually inferior to us, given how they had pretty much the same brain size and brain to body ratio as us. Although we don't know exactly if they were intelligent in a different way from us
As somebody who’s disabled and suffers from chronic pain, this video got to me. Kindness and compassion is truly the best gift humans can give to one another.
...I don't know why but the part of the woman having cavities because she was fed with too much dates, most likely to make her happy, made me cry. I know this is not the only explanation but it is a likely one. Makes me remember the beauty that can be human's compassion and kindness. Sadly, we have other traits not so great...
Human compassion remains such a strong trait that many of us here continue crying and empathizing with these people, even though we have no connection to them because they passed away so long ago. Emotion truly transcends time and space.
7:50 It bothers me every time I see it, but no, the average life expectancy of 33 does not mean that people uncommonly lived to age 40-60. In fact, quite the contrary. What people fail to recognize is that the process of being born is so incredibly dangerous that almost a quarter of all infants died during or shortly after birth. However, if you survived being born, and you further avoided being part of the 25% who died between the ages of 0 to around 15, you could expect to live well into your 50s, 60s, or even 70s. Remember, if the *average* life expectancy is 33, that means there were enough people living to age 66+ to counter balance the 25% who died at birth, largely as a result of the human compassion as described in this video.
Actually, that's not quite right. There _are_ computations of "Life-Expectancy _at age_ 15", and those show that, if you made it to puberty, you'd most likely live until 40-50. Over-50 would still have been rare, and those who did were typically the upper-echelons of society. We have the records, and in those cases where we don't, we can determine the age of skeletons … with error-bars on those ages. [Because despite what you may have been told, nobody in science ever produces dates & ages that are a single number, it's always "± something".] And taking into account measurements like, "was 43±4 years old," we can still come up with an average-age-of-death-range of the typical skeleton from a specific prehistoric era. And the adult skeletons were, on average around 40-50 years old. You are _absolutely correct_ that infant and child mortality is what has skewed Life-Expectancy at Birth upward. However, we need to be careful not to use infant-mortality to swing too far in the other direction and assume that most people lived until 70 or 80. Because Life-Expectancy at 10 and at 15 shows otherwise. So, more people _are_ also living longer than humans did in the past, thanks to good healthcare throughout our lives reducing and/or slowing the wear-and-tear on our bodies.
@@mynameisben123 I actually found a table of "Life Expectancy at Age 15" for various societies at various points in history. I wish I could find it again. What it showed, IIRC, is that the Life Expectancy @ 15 throughout history ranged between 40 and 60, but never went over 60 _until_ the 20th Century. So, to repeat for the people in the back who may not have heard clearly: Yes, "Life Expectancy at Birth" is making it look like _lifespan_ is increasing, but it's not. *No,* that _does not_ mean there were lots of 70-80 year-olds in the past, because we can also look at Life Expectancy at 15.
The one about the 18 year old girl with paralysis and rotten teeth made me real sad for some reason. Because, someone had to have been taking care of them, like you said, and they must've been so sad when she died.
Even if you're disabled there is plenty of things you can do to be useful to your group. You can knap flint, make tools, arrow shafts, spears, watch the kids/fire, crush nuts, clean berries, tan hides, chew sinew, make bowstrings, make traps or just be a nice guy that can tell a good joke or story. I would even argue that it was easier to find meaningful tasks for disabled people in a hunter gatherer society then it is in our society. If you're disabled in a modern society you basically need to have a good head on your shoulder otherwise there is basically nothing you can do (not counting tax subsidized employment) because all tedious works i previously mentioned are not needed anymore or they are done by machines. The only difference now is that our society produces so much excess that taking care of non productive people isn't that much of a burden anymore. So you can't be sure that nandy was a complete burden that didn't contribute anything to the groups survival. His teeth even have signs of atypical wearing, so maybe he chewed a lot of sinew or simply ate the less desirable food that weren't in high demand.
This! This is why I learned to knit. 😅 It may be hard for me to stand up for more than ten minutes, and my brain detects pain for no reason, but I can move my hands in a certain way thousands of times and make fabric! 😅
"The only difference now is that our society produces so much excess that taking care of non productive people isn't that much of a burden anymore." Wow, great take!
That’s really cool! My adhd and social issues, although not to bad, greatly affect my ability to communicate and establish positive relationships. I used art as a way to contribute and now I make many life’s better by spreading joy!
Sometimes a group only needs that one person to stay awake through the night while everyone else gets some sleep. You only need to be able to call if help is needed.
For those who are disabled and feel hated by modern society, remember this - your ancestors would be so proud of you and what you’ve gone through. If they could meet you, they’d undoubtedly love you. I hope this brings you some comfort, as it does to me.
i know this comment is like a year old but it made me cry (in a good way). i'm physically and neurodevelopmentally disabled and i often feel like i can't do enough. but youre right. thank you
14:15 "this woman's teeth [were full of] cavities from her family feeding her too many dates, apparently spoiling her with sweets." Man this is gonna make me cry, this is better than how we treat some of our disabled today
there are ppl in this comments section who are less compassionate than literal fucking prehistoric humans. if i wasnt a proponent for revolutionary optimism id be a misanthrope by now
@@Dulanimare Seriously it sucks. Those types are also ironically also spout thinks about natural selection and survival of the fittest while clearly knowing little about either. We are an inherently social species and as such its evolutionarily beneficial to have compassion in spades. Its also why we have bigger brains in general, and why the most intelligent species happen to be social ones.
@@Mmax98406 Next time, you see someone who's pro-eugenics, remind them they're supporting the same BS that targeted non white people (esp black people). Edit: Then again, they might make excuses or be openly for that shit too.
Man, as a disabled person, all this talk about empathy, those stories of ancient people being respected and cared for even though they were noticeably different from the pattern, along with the reconstructions of their faces, making them look more human, really warms my heart. I'll say I even got a bit emotional hah Damn, now I wanna hug a disabled warrior cavewoman lol
@@beetlejooce6127 well which form? Low functioning is nearly the same as people with mental retardation just slightly being better off, but still can't live or do most things on their own so yes for them it is but for high functioning which i have no you can essentially get rid of the bad effects of it if you REALLY try of course it will still be there but you now know coping mechanism to help.
Here you are, Mrs. Urgh! Your beautiful baby boy! He coughed while we were giving him his first exam, and he looks like he may be harboring a demon, so we've already begun digging his grave-hole. Better luck next time!
I had a genetic foot problem leaving me unable to walk much and with pain, and I was functionally blind as I was extremely short sighted. But, I had foot surgery and PRK laser eye surgery and was able to enlist in the U.S. Marines as a grunt. Quite the turn around and I am so grateful to live in this age.
You’re lucky, I have a lazy eye and there’s nothing I can do to get accepted into the military. Ironically I would’ve actually been better off in past, when standards weren’t as high
@@LakesideTreysociety can progress in some ways while regressing in others. Sadly it’s often the advancements in human rights that lead to a zealous pushback that can “overcompensate” to more restrictive laws.
I am currently writing my Master's thesis on this topic specifically. I'm terrified, it's daunting, it's new ground even for bioarchaeology, but I am not going to let this go. Thank you for this video!
Ugh: I make wheel Ook: Well I make chair Grunk: help leg broke Ook: *grabs grunk and puts him on the chair * Grunk: how I move? Ugh: *puts wheels on chair * Grunk: me so fast *Grunk later died after falling down the steps of the cave, as ramps had not been invented yet*
Disabled people aren't useless or helpless. Compassion? Yes. But they can cook, weave, make tools, watch the kids, use their brain, etc. Just because someone needs help; doesn't mean they're not worth helping. Good presentation.
@Survivalist395 Really, though, while the world is bleak and back then things were much worse I still prefer to see those rare exemptions so that I can at least know what to work for In the future and see a little of what's good in us. Besides, aren't exceptions what lead change in the world?
@@sebee5786 I get that. Some of my family have severe autism and it hurts to see. My aunts and uncles have told me that the best they can do for them is help them lead long, happy content lives even if said individuals may never leave their parents side. I'm hopeful tho, that we'll find cures for them Oh but its well documented that ppl with severe autism, if started at a very young age can form schedules and guidelines that they can follow to get them thru their day, so its all really about how much time and effort you're willing to put towards these individuals
@@davantiowo6519I haven't met that many people with autism so i don't know exactly what their capabilities are but that is good to know, they can be very nice so that could give a morale boost for the group. (btw I didn't mean to offend you if I did and I also hope that there will be a cure someday as well)
Same, but in a sad kind of way. My initial thought was of parents or other family members (depending on how young she was when she caught the disease) stressed over the possibility of her dying soon and consoling themselves and her by giving her sweets as a distraction, or as a way to desperately either get some weight on her or at least letting her have something good before she dies.
I get a rather bitter-sweet image that they feed her those just after she contracted the illness to make her last days happy, but she just continues to live far beyond their expectation, and they just have to continue finding more and more dates to feed her, as they cant exactly stop, and still don't know how long she will last.
@@Laurabeck329 The parents were completely at their limits of how to help their beautiful, suffering child because she had an illness that was hardly manageable even today, that one of the few things they were able to do was to give her love and offer her sweets she loved to eat.
@@abbykaiherau7539 I think that the parents were doing wha tthey could for their litte girl. I think that's so sweet, giving her sweet to make her happy, maybe take her mind off her pain. Mum, Dad 💗💗
For the compassion point you discussed, I'd also like to point out one of my favourite sites: a double grave found in Israel that dates back to roughly 13,500 to 12,000 years ago where they put flowers into the grave before laying down the dead. The flowers were preserved as impressions in a layer of mud that was first put into the grave cavity. It's shortly before the start of human settlement pops up, so they might have still been what popular culture deems 'cavemen'. It's oddly sweet to think someone cared so much about these people that they were making sure they had a beautiful last image of them preserved in their mind, lying on a bed of fragrant purple flowers. It's very humanising, and I think we need that reminder sometimes, as archaeologists but also as a society, to see just how little the human experience (in a philosophical sense) has changed. They loved, they cared and they grieved just like we do today, and that's very very powerful to me
Studying the world feeds my anger, make me think humanity is a bunch of retards, and we should kill em all. Just check out unreported world. Some countries are just shithole we need to take down because they are bad for the whole world and are not ashamend
@@4F6D Lemme add a part to the equation that may answer something for you. Free will doesn't exist and everything is luck based ultimately. People can and do fuck up, both in body and mind as the brain and it's contents are just as physical as the heart or skin. The more people are educated and taken care of the less violence and abhorrent behavior we see. As most perpetrators of the problems are people like you and me, who through selective empathy are able to justify doing something obvious morally reprehensible, by thinking of a fellow human being as an enemy. Ironically you are doing it now by thinking our species is worthless. To even come to that kinda notion at all, to say that existentially it's not worth it is honestly just a testament to human capability. To even discuss right and wrong, when no other beast does to our level. It means we can change, but we need to understand WHY people fuck up, why things get miswired, fried or otherwise malfunction and what those break downs cause around us. Then we can get to work on making as few of them happen as possible If life is unfair and nature is cruel, shouldn't we in realizing it as such work as hard as we can making it as fair as we can? Which is exactly what we do by taking care of people who by evolutionary standards are inferior, because we get, it's not their fault and we want to understand why things like that happen.
This whole prehistoric humans caring for the disabled warms my heart so much. Neanderthals and early humans are represented too coldly in media. I could listen to these stories of remains and picture what these people would’ve been like all day.
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 Question, do you have light skin but live in near the Ecuator? Do you have dark skin but live near the poles? Then CONGRATULATIONS! YOUR DNA IS FLAWED!
@@rho9904 there is no logic behind emotion. it is brainwashing and default software. "on concept detected administer punishment", and you are ok with it. you didnt design your emotions. they are arbitrary. remove them for an advantage. DNA contains mind controlling parasite software because noone rational with any real goal would multiply. imagine if everyone was cared for in the past no matter what and multiplied, what would have evolved would be horrible, in constant pain, cant walk, cant see, cant hear, unintelligent, etc.
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 I have my email on my account, ask for my location there and come get me, I'm flawed according to you so why not help by getting rid of me?
Whenever I’m feeing shitty after some ableism, I rewatch this to remind myself that there is kindness towards people like me recorded in even unwritten history
"next time you lose hope in humanity's goodness, if neandernthals could love and care for another, why shouldn't we?" Thank you Trey, I think we all really need that right now in June of 2020
@@willowarceneaux434 I've tried. Not to get anyone in any trouble but it takes away a spot from other residents who have the right to park there. But, since it it private property,, law enforcement has no authority. Isn't that ridiculous? And, so far, our new management has failed to hire a security patrol but they sure were fast to raise our rents.
Melissa Hollowell well I also live in a community that is on private property and you can sue; but this sounds like you’re upper level government needs to be informed about security patrol
This video honestly means so much to me. It feels so silly to admit, but I've always been insecure about not being physically tough or strong enough as well as the struggles that comes from being autistic and having ADHD, like I'm just so fundamentally abnormal as a person that I'd be a goner were I born in the prehistoric era. But knowing that isn't necessarily true feels really good.
Not gonna lie, that part about the girl with polio having cavities from all the sweet dates she was fed brought a tear to my eye. Never would have guessed early humans could have been compassionate. Great vid Trey!
XD same here, it's nice and reassuring to see that compassion is something that seems to be universal to almost all humans. I'm happy you enjoyed my video so much! Thank you so much :)
As a disabled anthropology student, I adored this video. I am very sick of the Neandertal slander, especially since they did seem to bury their dead very meticulously. These were our ancestors, and our ideas about intelligence- logical or emotional- were passed down. We need to stop treating the past with such disdain and to accept that we are culminations of a long lineage of intelligence.
"oh look at me i'm neanderthal I can make rock sharper than homo sapien can" yeah and it only took you hundreds of thousands of years to learn it neandernerds homo sapiens number 1, biggest brains there ever was
@@tictacterminator Actually, the neandertals had a larger brain cavity. A theory on why homo sapiens lived as opposed to them is that we simply had a wider range and could adapt to new enviroments easier.
I'm so glad you covered the girl who loved dates-- because of her story, I tried dates for the first time, and she has excellent taste. They really taste like candy!
It seems to me. That prehistoric humans were guided largely by emotion, and not by philosophical reason, so of course they cared for their kin. It is human to feel love. And to want to help. The only reason later societies were disparaging of these unfortunate individuals is Bc they used reasoning and logic to deduce ones worth, instead of emotion. And in that way, their intelligence was actually their savagery.
@@elig3671 Let’s see, many Africans, Melanesians, native Americans, Pacific Islanders, basically any human group if you have geographical awareness and an IQ of at least 3. You’re questioning as if human cannibalism for ritualistic purposes has never existed in ancient human society; sweetheart, it still exists today.
I haven’t been able to sleep and my mental health has been horrible. I’ve been scrolling UA-cam to distract myself from intrusive thoughts when this popped up. Idk why it was so heartwarming, but it kinda restored my faith in the world. If prehistoric humans would risk starvation to help a disabled member of their tribe because they cared about them, surely there is someone out there who wants to help me, right?
I think human life expectancy has gone down, I mean in 2019 if your healthy you can live to about 80, but these people out here being 4000 years old. Edit: I haven't checked this in 8 months... Do people really find it that funny???
Hunter or warrior isn't the only skill that matters. A person could spend their time making clothing or weapons, cooking, childcare, or playing the role of a shaman. It's really just a question of how many homebodies a family can support. In fact, it's well understood that a tribe without elders is in a bad situation because they lose generational knowledge. This is true for whales and elephants as well - the loss of an old matriarch can have an indirect cascade effect that results in many more deaths.
Yup. A lot of people today like to toot the horn for hunters and warriors in prehistoric societies, but a community of ONLY hunters would be useless. Today we've been able to phase out an incredible amount of the miscellaneous duties necessary for society back then, but tool production, skin/leather treatment, cooking, home maintenance etc would have been extremely time consuming without necessary being very intense heavy labour. Reasonably, there should have been a lot of necessary work available for the physically weaker members of society. Heck, even just being able to pass on specialist knowledge would have been extremely valuable in a society without written records. Taking care of old people especially would have been essential even after they become too frail to do the work themselves, since they would be the experts on several tasks and had to be kept alive until younger members of the society had absorbed as much as possible of that knowledge.
@lullabyneanderthal I think Trey was just advocating FOR the humanity of the prehistoric humans and AGAINST the otherwise preconceived notion that they were savages that modern humans have had of our prehistoric ancestors. But hey, we live and learn. We shouldn't bash ourselves for not knowing something right away, even if we assume it. Assuming isn't always the best idea, more often than not it's the worse choice, but I think we should also be more forgiving and less judgemental. That's something humans have to practise on because we really, really should. That way we become more of a force for good than ever before. It's only recently that we've begun redeeming and reverting our past wrongs as best as we can but we're still ways off until we're doing our planet and its other inhabitants only good.
@lullabyneanderthal It's good that we humans start questioning the events of history because how else would we find things out if we weren't striving to find out how things really happened or probably happened? This is how Trey thought when he wanted to know how disabled people were treated back then. That is really good for us in the modern age because we don't know all that much of prehistory but we do know surprisingly a lot about that time period. But there is always more to find out of course. The question is what we're missing.
Prehistoric societies did not have the same scarcity/inequality we know today. It's after agriculture , money and inequality, and religion took over that people began to express more competitiveness than caring.
Thank you SO much for taking the time to research and create this. I have Cerebral Palsy and am a huge advocate for my community, and I find that even though anyone can become disabled at any time, there really isn't all that much disability history or other disability studies readily available. Even though it applies either directly or indirectly to everyone. It seems like today's society full of ableism could learn from the cavemen!
Ramp Shark I think he's aware, he was trying to point out just how far we've fallen. Like we developed compassion and that was great but now we've got capitalism which isn't so great
Whiterun Guard A socialist system where the worker, instead of a single owner, owns the business. It wouldn't be too different from what we have today, only differences would be that you'd get paid more as you wouldn't have someone stealing the majority of your produced value and you'd have larger role in your work place as it'd be run democratically. Before you spout anything about socialism not working or something. That's not true. Most places that call themselves socialist aren't even remotely socialist and second, I don't believe in socialism through the state, as in I don't believe the government owning business is socialism as the people do not have full control of the government. Like in America our leader wasn't even democratically elected, if you can't follow the simple rules of democracy then I obviously can't trust you own and operate my work place. I'm talking a system where instead of owners getting majority power, the worker does. That's socialism.
Wanted to share an interesting story that not only humans have compassion. So I used to have 5 adult cats that were brothers and sisters and were indoor-outdoor. And of course there were other homeless territorial cats in the neighborhood. They never let the other cats come into the backyard, except for one male who had an injured paw. They made us give him food and water outside and they protected and nurtured him back to health. A couple years later they did this again for another cat they invited: a young, tiny teenage tiny mother with kittens. And they protected and guarded her until the kittens were older. It's not just humans that have compassion.
“Made us” you didn’t want to care for the injured cat ?? Or the cat with kittens? Man your cats had more empathy than you :( thank you for still caring for them
@@smears6039 we respected the decisions and wishes of our cats. During the period where there were some nasty mean stray cats around us for a while, our cats STOPPED asking for food and water outside because they didn’t want to provide nutrition to those cats who would only use it as invitation to invade their territory. Same with raccoons. They don’t like raccoons and have been attacked by them in the past so we chase them away.
There is one fact you ignore there were more people in rome than in cave so really need to look after each other but in rome human lifes are less valuable. You can see because they also have slavery
Asian Man - Euthanizing defective babies can be an act of compassion if those carrying out the euthanasia process trully believe the person they are euthanizing is better off dead than alive.
Luis Almeida I’m talking about one person. I agree with what you are saying. I’m just making fun of some who’s supposed to be smart who also believed in eugenics.
Asian Man “supposed to be smart” compassion does not equal intelligence. As much I want to disagree with him, he makes a very valid point. Getting rid of genetic disabilities as a form of ‘natural’ selection will have significant effects on the gene pool of future generations and will greatly improve the capabilities of our species. It’s unethical, but would greatly benefit everyone in the long term.
Bottle Yeet it doesn’t make it any less of a dumbass plan. It doesn’t matter if it would technically be good in the long run, it would only be good after killing countless innocent people. Your right, Compassion doesn’t equal intelligence. but if someone literally believes in eugenics then that actually makes them a moron.
@@luciferangelica the only thing in front of us are our phones, and the only things on them are war, death, famine, internet warzones, arguments, toxicity. we as humans have failed
@@harrietjameson i agree with most of that. man, shit is ugly, but not every single thing is. there are acts of courage, kindness, and humanity around us, and a lot if it is just mundane, every day things, and there is still beauty. i'm sitting in a dark room rn crying about how terrible the world is and how we're all doomed, and i don't know what to do about it, but there are actually things in this world that don't totally suck, if you don't believe me, get back to me and thirty years and tell me you don't miss any if what you have now, so i'm not willing to give up yet, even if anything i do will probably be meaningless in the scheme of things. btw, take a walk. like, i don't mean that as an insult, i just mean, go outside for a little bit
@@user-it2kq4ty9q na he's right. You'd probably need one of those pandemic suites. You konw one of those yellow ones which you use with a mask. But I doubt that they'd talk with you if you where something like that. Well not voluntarily... :D
in prehistory i'd be fucking dead 1 day in - asthma - gluctose intolerant - lactose intolerant - allergic to moss and pollen - thin skin - eyesight so bad i'm legally blind - requires 3 protein shakes a day since i cannot process true protein - scoliosis which affects hips and spine (spine is tilted to the left so yeah i'd be dead asf
I hope when I die, the history of the universe is opened to me so I can watch, pause, rewind and read minds. I'm dying to know what it was LIKE back then. To actually believe you live next to blemmies and under the conflict of the gods.
3:31 this makes obvious sense, physical disability would have been pretty common in a society that hunts large prey to survive and in such small societies one can not afford to abandon a companion who is injured or disabled in a way that still allows them to function at least partially as a member of society. Compare that with ancient farming societies in which the average person was just considered a tool of royalty and you see where disregard for the disabled rationally comes from in traditional society.
It's rly strange that people can't comprehend that feudalism and capitalism weren't around forever and therefore think that everyone in history was just a selfish asshole
If you think about it, that makes sense. Back then, familial bonds were life or death, whereas that get less true the more societal we get - since if we're not at constant risk of predators because there's city walls between them and us, we're not having to constantly look over each other's shoulders every waking moment and trust that the person doing so isn't going to throw us to a hungry carnivore to save their own skin.
Considering how several animals seem to show similar behavior, it's not that much of a surprise that humans did too. On a side note, a lot of these individuals in the video would probably make fantastic protagonists for books or movies. The lady with the hip deformity intrigues me. She must have done something really important to have been given such honors for her burial.
Not a prehistoric setting but you may enjoy "Geek Love". It's a terrific book with a disabled protagonist that covers some of these topics in a very engaging way.
The thought that those far ancestors of us showed more compassion towards those in need gives me the good shivers. Where even today you see scumbags mocking or even abusing disabled people.
Literally in the comment above you there are people arguing that we should make it illegal for disabled people to have children. As a disabled person, from a family full of other disabled people, you are right.
@@bungiecrimes7247 It's ok if your parents never gave you love or cared for you, you can go to therapy to work it out but stfu with your edge lord stuff and go talk to a therapist
The people in this comment section ( at least part of it) is not passing the vibe check. So many of these random dude bros are dissing emotion, a very important and human part of existing.
That last one is so fascinating; it should be a movie. I'd love to know more about her. At the mutter museum, the most fascinating part are the bones of people who were injured; diseased, or born with birth defects that survived, healed at least partially, and went on for many years. The number of sculls with trephanation who had very obvious healing afterwards was stunning. They survived? For YEARS? People are harder to kill that one might think! Thank you for a very enjoyable story!
Honestly though what percent of humans would reach adulthood without significant health problems when there was no medical knowledge, dentistry, or regular food sources even? If they killed the disabled people there would be very few people.
@@alien_invation371 "We don't want them breeding" sounds a bit eugenics-y. It's sort of attractive on the face of it, like, couldn't we make all humans healthier by breeding? Well, no. A good place to start is considering who should be allowed to breed and who shouldn't. See if you can set that line and defend it rationally.
@@alien_invation371 I'm not saying you couldn't change human genetics through "breeding," because of course you could. But I think it's worth considering how that would work and understanding that there has to be a value judgement there. For example, what are the best traits in a human - strength, mathematical intelligence, emotional intelligence, kindness, beauty - it's subjective. You might think "letting the weak ones live" is bad, but with modern technology we don't honestly need physical strength in our day to day lives. Anyway, it's just a question of what makes humans valuable and it gets questionable on a rational level when you start trying to rank them.
@@alien_invation371 *too. Also, we aren't "too smart for our own good". If we were less smart we wouldn't exist because our intelligence is the only thing we have going for us. Physically, we suck. We are slow, light, weak, and can't give birth on our own.
@@alien_invation371 also learn to spell, it's invasion. That makes me think though. What amuses me most about Nazis is how utterly useless all their might would be against an evolved predatory alien race. There's always a bigger fish, my emotionally stunted sad little friend.
@@nome9752 well, the sect of Islam that's given the religion the reputation it has today originated in Saudi Arabia, and endorsed by its rulers long before they controlled the peninsula, so you could honestly blame the rulers for much of the violence going on in the Middle East. That isn't even touching on the regime's funding of terrorism
@@DrHorribleDH aren’t humans patriarchal in nature? It’s only nowadays where physical properties are less determinant to success that (rightfully so) women are becoming more equal.
I thought in some cases the reason people kept others with certain disablities is due to how they can be used. Like a person who can't walk could litterally just sit there and make baskets or prepare the food all day while those who can walk can't/won't. This way they are still valuable just in a different way. They can be used for very specific jobs that may be annoying/tedious in some form. Either way, this is flat out amazing!
Cameo Shadowness agreed, this seems like a likely solution. I think it’s also important to note that they may have been more willing to aid those with disabilities simply because the “cost” of child birth was much higher. While it takes roughly 9 months to have a child, childhood and maternal mortality would have been much higher then (not to mention the difficulty of finding food to feed the pregnant mother). This would all contribute to a higher replacement cost for a given human - and if one human was disabled, there is no guarantee that the next one born won’t also be disabled, so just abandoning the first one in hopes that the next will be better isn’t a great strategy. Ultimately many people being born in those times ended up with a terrible disability called “death” - so if you managed to avoid that you were doing pretty good. And if you could contribute to the tribe a bit and manage to not be dead, even better. And as mentioned in my other comment on this video - your being taken care of might prove to be a powerful message to the rest of the tribe, letting them know that they can be expected to be taken care of if bad luck befalls them. And that is a valuable mindset to instill in your people, perhaps valuable enough to justify the expense of caring for someone.
I think there's a tendency to overthink how humans in prehistory thought about these things. Probably, they didn't. They just cared for their family/tribe, and would feel grief if something happened to them, regardless of any sort of cost/benefit analysis. Even to think that this person would do the jobs no one else wanted to do I think is a bit of a stretch. Some of the folks in the video probably couldn't do much of anything, but were loved regardless. Others were buried with high honors, clearly more important than just the person who did the tedious jobs. The fact is that, at least for the homo sapiens in the video, they're basically genetically identical to us. I don't judge my friends and family based on how they're useful to my survival, I just kinda love them. I imagine humans of prehistory were very much the same.
Romulus Numa Yes but if they were considered a member of the tribe and had survived with them for many years, I don't see why they wouldn't have felt compassion to help him.
It really is touching to see compassion so far back in time, as well as in our cousin species. And I was touched to see the examples both in Neanderthal groups and in our own species. Thank you so much for uploading, Trey!
Real cave people: Intelligent and compassionate people
Cave people in media: Oogabooga me eat rock. rock taste good.
damn media treating cave people like Gorons like bruh nah bruh they don eat rocks lmaooo
cave people: youre a hero just for being yourself
cave people in media: me throw rock at myself me dies
funniest comment ever
Both are correct. Rocks taste good
Must be confusing them with barn owls
I never thought I'd hear the phrase "my all time favourite example of disabilities through human history"
Number 1 joe from family guy
number 31: stephen hawking
Number 5: Jake Paul some how survived without a brain
Number 15, burger king foot lettuce
The last thing you'd want in your Burger King burger
Is someone's foot fungus
But as it turns out
That might be what you get
A 4channer uploaded a photo
Anonymously to the site
Showcasing his feet in a plastic bin of lettuce
With the statement: "this is the lettuce you eat at Burger King"
Number 2: Modern americans
“He was at the very least tolerated”- Story of my life.
Dusty Sprinkles I like your pfp
@@laurel222 i think it's Connie from Steven Universe
edit: OP changed pfp, this comment is now irelevant
Lol
@@vitaurea Bro that’s kind of racist. It’s a poodle
Me too, unfortunately
Talking of historical disability: I did my undergrad dissertation paper on Disability in the Middle Ages. We have found the burial of a guy in Italy (thought to be a mercenary) who lost his arm at some point so straight up replaced it with a sword blade.
Pretty Rad
cyborgs before cyborgs
He sounds like he was really awesome
that is fucking amazing.
A Chad move right there
"A case of dwarfism in a 10,00 year old boy"
*whispers to myself *
"I knew they were immortal. "
Lol
Lmao ❤️❤️❤️🇨🇦
@@thekatt... gimme ur doggo plz.
Aka 1000 dwarf years
Dwarfs are immortal until I kill them
Not me crying over a prehistoric Disabled 18 year old who was loved by her family so much that they fed her too many sweets
i wish i was so loved by my family that they fed me too many sweets
Thats legit so cute like they loved her so much thats so sweet
she's so cute in the drawing tho
@@onaalert5480 didn’t it show her eating dates😭
Yeah, that just makes me so weirdly happy and sentimental
The thing about the 18 year old girl w muscle issues being looked after and constantly fed sweets is so so cute
@filthy_weeb _ I think he means that it's cute that they spoiled her with dates. And it really is super hecking wholesome... at least until she died due to tooth rot, that was a bummer and potentially caused a major medical realisation among the tribe.
Ductah Jimothy, nice pfp
Confinement
@@YeloJello shhhhhhhh that's meant to be [REDACTED]
@filthy_weeb _ honestly, like this is how we treat children when they get hurt or to help them cheer up. Loipops, icecream, etc.
the fact that that woman got cavities from the amount of sweets her family gave her to make her happy is honestly way more cute than it should be
It’s pretty wholesome actually it reminds me of my own grandparents who would give me sweets to cheer me up
Bro, she died from it
@@PreistoricSpark no she didn't, she got rotted teeth but he never said she died from it
@@weegeguy9770she died from it
It should be noted about the woman who was buried with a full warrior's honor that many societies across human history have held a great reverence/fear of the act of childbirth. Spartans, Aztecs, Norse, and many others saw no real difference between birth and battle, so women who died in childbirth or had many children/shown themselves to be righteous mothers were treated as warriors when they passed
💕💕💕
Jacob Adams How?
Samueldedieu but how?
Seems fitting that she received so many honours since she likely suffered her disability in the act of childbirth and overcame that to be a badass warrior
@Samueldedieu because for a woman who doesnt actually want a child, child birth is extremely painful and they would most likely RATHER have an std than have a child that they do not even wish to raise.
"If only bones could talk" is such a powerful line
yeah, if time travel is ever invented, she would be an interesting person to meet...
Or trees
Hell naw, I don't want to feel the vibration of my *bones* talking to each-other
@@halamadruuid2380 LOL
They will if you let them
Taking care of disabled individuals is not actually limited to humans. Many social animals like cattle, sheep, dogs, etc. have been observed acting as guides for blind and deaf animals. While they can’t always necessarily stop predators from getting some individuals more easily, I wouldn’t say that most animals just don’t care if disabled members of their herd/group/pack are killed. Social animals mourn just like us. Evolving to be social and care about other individuals is just a good way for many species to survive.
@@desertsane I had a stroke trying to read that
@@desertsane ding ding ding! Yep, I’m disabled. Not to a severe extent, but enough to warrant a diagnosis.
why do you believe disabled people should be shot, by the way? Do you believe we are suffering from a famine so severe that letting them eat is a “waste of food?” Even those who made amazing contributions to the world like Stephen Hawking?
@@desertsane No one should be discriminated for something they can’t control. And also fighting aliens-are u high?
@@desertsane so you are suggesting that if you had children that were born with a disability you would kill them.
Or what if you developed a disability? Would you volunteer yourself to be killed? Or are you a hypocrite who wouldn’t like the taste of their own medicine
Desertsane that’s not how genes work you fucking lobotomite. They’re randomized it’s literally just gonna appear again.
Able-bodied cavemen would've experienced a lot of injuries and disease themselves, if their communities didn't have space for the sick and injured, there wouldn't be enough of them to form a community at all.
Spartan baby: coughs
Spartans: *YOUR FREE TRIAL OF LIVING HAS ENDED*
"Dad, I dont want to join the Spartan army"
" *TO DEATH* "
*YEEEET*
@@Truemasterpj no
@@Truemasterpj you think it's ok to have sex with your friends??? 🤯😔😢
@@Truemasterpj Yep. It is pretty bad.
So if the thumbnail has the disabled symbol with cave man type clothes on. That would mean the modern day one is naked.
no the guy in the thumbnail has the spongebob disease
The modern one has a fancy, skin colored leotard
@@netLG hahahahah what about the spear
@@bigmanimation remember spongegar?
...
Neanderthal dad: Oh no no my daughter is bad disease I give her sweet to be happy
Spartan dad: Did you fall over? DID YOU JUST FALL OVER? _Grabs sword_
*is bad disease*
@@l.t.p933 Neanderthal: No need language good. Me take care of family now, bye bye
more like
my mom
Haha. Funny.
:(
It wasn't a neanderathal, it was in 2000 BC, 500 years after the pyramids were built
🤣
Nothing makes me happier than knowing that there was a girl in ancient history who’s family loved her so much they not only took care of her but gave her so many sweet treats that it’s actively visible thousands of years later.
"Look, Nandy, we are gonna patch you up real good. You're gonna be History! Stay with us, man, don't close your eye."
😭
This made me unexpectedly sad
“Leave me son, give me a spear. When the war party enters the valley I will send the rocks tumbling upon them.”
“But how will you hear them?”
He sits down against a large bolder near the cliff, straining against the pain of the gash in his side and sets his good hand on the ground. “I may not hear well but their numbers are many, I may feel them. Time is short. Go now son.”
“We will come back for you Nandy...”
“Only do so when it is safe. I am proud of the leader you have become my son. When it is over, commit my body to the spirits...”
“I will nandy...dammit I will...”
Ricardo Smarts To be honest I think it’s funny that you can somehow manage to have a lower IQ than the Neanderthals talked about in this video and remain a contributing member of modern society. Oh wait. (You aren’t.)
@Ricardo Smarts It was for disrespect not anger. Not that I would to bandwagon on it.
If a prehistoric girl with polio can get so many dates.
I can get one too
Updoot.
Try a Redbull 😉
If only if only
op did you get the dates
@@canhedotricks6078 I got one, neither of us were interested (° 3° )
Have you read about Seneb from ancient Egypt? He was a dwarf who lived during the Old Kingdom and was highly respected in royal courts, and it's believed that people with dwarfism like him were highly associated with Bes, the god of children and respected as such in society. Unfortunately when they found his tomb his sarcophagus was empty so we don't have his physical body to examine, but we know he was a dwarf because the Egyptians had a word for it that he was described as being in his tomb's inscriptions, and there's a statue of him with his wife that presents him with dwarf-like proportions while his wife appears with able-bodied proportions next to him. Really interesting stuff.
Was the sarcophagus made with his proportions?
@@jonnypballin Based on what I was able to find, the sarcophagus is 184cm in length so it's likely it wasn't made with his proportions in mind. There is a chance it could have belonged to his wife Senetites but since their mummies weren't found with the tomb and the tomb itself was robbed long before its rediscovery, it's impossible to say.
James Evans thabks for answering my question
or maybe his wife was a giant?
@@baileyeikenhorst1522 And he was very broad.
As someone with autism, sometimes I wonder if anyone would have noticed if I was different. A lot of disabilities are exacerbated by modern circumstances
I think they would not really care as long as you help hunt or pick berries. But they would have found it weird that you act differently or couldn't pick up on social cue.
i honestly think it would be a lot more noticeable because they didn't have words, you had no ways to communicate except body language and cues autistic people have trouble with
@@Live_XP I mean, if you think about it, modern society has more ways of discriminating and marginalising us than back then, surely?
We can ask a series of questions that highlight this.
What kind of social cues would those be? The modern society's demand of maintaining eye contact when speaking modern society's language? Or getting frustrated at us for being unable to read between the lines of the overly flowery conversations allistics have? Or how we're forced to mask and act like smiling suited corpos? Or how we aren't allowed to stim? Or how we can't eat what we WANT, or DRESS in what we want, even though not eating/dressing comfortably sets off our sensory issues? Or how we are mocked on every form of media, and the whole world thinks autistics are all non-verbal caricatures?
Society has not been kind to us...
Nah, I'm sure there are a ton of people with autism that have passed by through history without mention of it being a possibility or issue. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of artists and writers were high functioning autistic, and even a few emperors in hereditary monarchies as well. I really would not doubt it, seeing some of the decisions they make.
Considering that neurodivensity has persisted, they're likely advantageous traits to have within a group. If everyone gets along, that's great, but there's also a boon to having one or two group members that are less gregarious and more, for instance, attentive to tasks they hyperfix on.
I've got type 1 diabetes, so I'd be dead at age 5. Interesting fact: the ancient Egyptians had a test for diabetes, by pouring urine near an ant hill. If the ants went to the urine, they had "the starving disease", because they figured out that starving the child with diabetes made them live longer than feeding them.
Huh, neat
They also has a similar test in ancient China. Also fun fact the reason why there are a lot of type 1 diabetes in people of northern Scandinavia decent is because type 1 diabetes acts as a sort of “anti-freeze” for the body because of how much sugar is in the blood.
I mean, if it works...
Doctors here in the US tasted their patents' urine for sugar.
Actually they used to taste the urine as well and if it was sweet they would be diagnosed. And obviously kept away from eating sugars.
grug no like society's preconceived notions about grug's emotions. grug... grug feel Love.
Anprims have emotions too
maxor?
I read it as drugs first lol
@@LeoLeo-yi5yx grug love drugs yes
grug moment
Feeding her dates to try to keep her happy. Got me in the feels.
It's the only thing they could do.
@@crimsonfox87fluxule62 And thats okay.
We don't know that Nandy was a total burden. He might have known how to do certain things really well, such as making tools with his one good arm. He might have had knowledge that was worth remembering in pre-literate society, like the making of pitch. He would still have been able to keep watch and raise alarms, such as looking out over the valley for animals, or sitting with small children, or tending a fire.
I feel like it is wrong to say he is a burden at all, even saying someone is a slight burden is wrong to me.
@@keyfiregamez2036 I agree because, truly, everyone is a “burden”. We all require help, understanding , care, and teamwork. So actually, no one is a burden, we are working as intended. But we live in societies that set a portion of us up to fail and FEEL like burdens… when we are just people, as intended. :(
@@asmrtpop2676 Totally right. I have autism (asperger's), anxiety, and other minor things. I feel heavy physical pain in school and i dont want to go. I am already preparing to be a youtuber, but i my
family thinks im just a "burden". I cant go to school and im not sure if i can finish it. It doesnt
matter how much i say i will be monetized one day, they dont care. According to them, i am a burden and a failure. :(
A true bad-ass
@@DeadAccount53885 OK don't go to school, get a 9-5 and work towards your goal of being a youtuber.
Dude Bro: Survival of the fittest
Cavemen: Gary might not be able to walk all that good but he tells good stories it would be a shame to lose him!
Virgin dude bro vs chad caveman
@@Poopfan101 too many virgin dude bros in this comment section smh
What a video so interesting just goes to show everyone has a purpose sending my love to all my fellow humans ❤️ 😌
@@NiceOneBrother667 love you bro, I would buy you a beast gaming pc if I could
@@Poopfan101 thanks brother thanks a lot 🙏🏻
The idea that humans took care of their disabled is not that weird, even when compared to other animals who do tend to reject their sick young. To make a human child takes a shit ton of resources and you can only have about one per year. A cat or a dog has a litter as a fail safe. If one of them is unlikely to survive, there is always backup.
Yeah, and babies and toddlers are incredibly "disabled". We are evolutionarily adapted to take care of our young, to raise them to a point in which they can survive on their own.
If an infant is born blind or deaf, or even lame, we might not know for awhile, and our overriding sense of protecting or nurturing the child will have kicked in.
We're also pretty resilient, and can heal after a broken leg or arm.
Not so resilient as having a failsafe net in the form of society. If you break your crucial limb out in the wild on your own it would probably doom you. It takes a "doctor" that can put a splint on it and a sulprus of resources that can be spend on your rehabilitating ass so you don't have to risk your health any further. In these conditions pretty much any animal can recover from such a blow.
It's also worth remembering that, depending on the disability, an otherwise not able-bodied member of the society could still be made to contribute. So long as they have manual dexterity in their hands, they could be made to perform tasks that require it, like weaving or sculpting clay. A person with a mental disability might have enough cognitive power to do simple tasks, like gathering wood or picking mushrooms. There's also the matter of a disabled member of the group being a potential _mental_ good, since a person who can't do anything will have a great deal of time to _think_ . Which, in turn, can lead them to insight, and even primitive philosophy. Many mystics throughout human history were folks who had some kind of abnormality, which primitive people might see as a sign of supernatural wisdom.
Now, this doesn't invalidate the existence of members whose disabilities made them unable to do anything. Because - especially in the early stages of the disability being known - there always existed the possibility that the person could get better, or could be put to use in some fashion. Even if that never happens, and objectively the person is more a burden than a help, by the point that becomes apparent the group would have long since become emotionally invested in them. They are family.
Pooch yes but when you compare these observations to early human civilisations - or even recent societies - and their treatment of disabled people, which is referred to in the beginning of this video, then it’s quite shocking by contrast
Danistormborn
Not really. Although philosophers thought that way, we know that individuals didn't (outside of Sparta). There's evidence that ancient and medieval societies took care of disabled people. The video also frames disabled people as being completely useless and only a burden, but that's simply ridiculous. Someone had to tend to the settlement, someone had to prepare foods, someone had to watch and tear children. Disabled individuals could do many of these things.
Imagine being a woolly mammoth and then some Homo sapiens came out of bushes on wheelchairs with Spears towards you.
*SpongeGar meme insert here*
Don't laugh, that spear wielding wheelchair caveman can most likely kick most of our butts in a straight up 1 on 1 fight.
I think that'd be terrifying
Mrs. Pyrogenic lmao
I would think wheelchair bound Neanderthals would have a distinct advantage. They were the only ones who could use the wheel.
as an autistic person just wanted to add in a little something bout us. some scientists believe that early autistic humans were commonplace and operated both within human social groups and sometimes tangential to them as specialists in specific skills. this is likely where the autistic trait of special interests originated. resources or tasks that were complicated or tedious might have been avoided by the layperson, but social groups may have engaged in trade with isolated autistic individuals who habitually sought these tasks out as a special interest. much cave art has also been suggested to have been made by autistic individuals.
My grandma had a friend growing up who was clearly autistic, but no one knew what that was back then. He was really popular because he was great at voice impressions. He was kinda a local celebrity.
It has occurred to me that our preference for highly specializing in certain areas and desire to repeat the same routine over and over would have been very beneficial in a farming community, and even today, autists are often successful farmers! 😊
that's fascinating, I wonder if it's similar with ADHD and hyperfocusing?
@@demonyearzI’ve seen some people suggest that ADHD would’ve been helpful in hunting. I don’t know too much about it myself but I’ve seen some people make good cases for it!
Wow that's amazing
TREY: Makes a video about how humans have always showed an incredible amount of empathy towards their fellow man, no matter what time in history.
The comment section: Ooonga Chonga OOonga chonga
Did you miss the bit about Spartans? Never heard of the Nazi policy of sterilisation and killing of the disabled?
Leon Hill still that doesn’t mean every spartan or nazi was Necessarily bad not every nazi or spartan was a cruel monster most of them were but not all
@@arrfffff7455 agreed. Your point is?
Leon Hill ehh every point in history not all people were horrible and of people were monsters but a very small few helped people he saying at any point in human history people helped people
@@arrfffff7455 I agree, but there is a difference between "a video about how humans have 'always showed' an incredible amount of empathy towards their fellow man, no matter what time in history." and " every point in history not all people were horrible."
This reminds me of a story about anthropologist Margaret Mead. ‘Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture.
Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal. broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery. Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts. We are at our best when we serve others. Be civilised.’
That's interesting, but I want to note that generally nowadays in anthropology "civilization" is considered to have begun at a specific period wherein agriculture and permanent settlements began (about 10,000 years ago).
Other definitions of "civilized" which refer to morality or language are heavily criticized and rarely used outside some traditionalist circles. They also originated from colonizers, so yeah that's pretty bad.
I've seen with my own eyes a troop of baboons that would walk for 5 minutes then wait for the one baboon. This baboon had it's hand and foot torn off and half it's face. As the wounds looked healed. Compassion isn't just a human thing.
When I was little I saw a gaggle of geese where one had just one foot and hopped on land. But in the water he was just as fast as the others (despite presumably having a different swimming method, couldn’t rly see for the colour of the river)
About Nandy, I’d guess that even though he couldn’t hunt, and he’d take up food, he would still be able to make up for it through other skills. Nandy was really old for the time, meaning very experienced. He could have been a wiz at making tools, clothes, medicine, tracking, child care, etc. Just because you can’t run, doesn’t mean that you are useless.
I want to see that warrior woman's story with the bad hip. That would be awesome. The lady with polio having a ton of cavities is also the sweetest thing, pun intended.
Yes. I would like to see a movie inspired by Burial 223.
Dammit Tam she maybe gotten the hip injury after her battle tho
Not Gay yeh, she probably died bc of the bad hip. Probably got it right after a fight, 3 days later probably died bc of it
@@znightowlz6585 a few seconds after 15:35 it's mentioned that the injury probably happened in child birth. Not sure if that means when she was born or in labor. Sounds more like the latter
Nahome Tesfay I doubt it happened in child birth. What I said is the most likely scenario but it’s impossible to say for sure. Child birth seems like the less likely if not equally likely scenario.
Neanderthals definitely weren’t dumb, savage brutes. They’ve found Neanderthal graves that contain the remnants of body paint and flowers, indicating they lovingly and ritualistically buried their dead, much like we do. That also tells me they probably felt grief as well.
100% if elephants can feel grief for sure Neanderthals felt grief as well.
@@hoopsonwheelsnot just elephants either
Totally, they may have been intellectually inferior to us but they still had emotions and thoughts
I’m part Neanderthal and don’t consider myself dumb
@@benzymthey were most likely not really intellectually inferior to us, given how they had pretty much the same brain size and brain to body ratio as us. Although we don't know exactly if they were intelligent in a different way from us
*Caveman gets hit by a mammoth
Prehistoric Doctor: yep, he's yabba dabba dead
Yabba dabba done for
Mammoth must have been drunk
Should’ve looked both ways when crossing the valley
@Khaki Shorts Next in Queue: Pangean Idiot by Stoneday
@@ennisdelmar807 I Love Stoneday, can you queue "21 stones" afterwards?
As somebody who’s disabled and suffers from chronic pain, this video got to me. Kindness and compassion is truly the best gift humans can give to one another.
The blue lobster is a shiny
True
@Jacob Masten that escalated quickly
...I don't know why but the part of the woman having cavities because she was fed with too much dates, most likely to make her happy, made me cry. I know this is not the only explanation but it is a likely one.
Makes me remember the beauty that can be human's compassion and kindness. Sadly, we have other traits not so great...
it's the human nature, we can be Michelangelos and Saints Francis but also Hitlers. that's how it is and I'm quite sure it eill never change
Prehistoric simps
@@marchelloastuto9552 lol
I felt the same way, it almost makes my cry.
@Happy Man As he said, it's not just Homo sapiens either
Human compassion remains such a strong trait that many of us here continue crying and empathizing with these people, even though we have no connection to them because they passed away so long ago. Emotion truly transcends time and space.
I think human compassion is one of our greatest strengths as a species. IMO.
It's almost like we are biologically designed to be empathetic to others?? 🤷♂️
@@jacksepticisle654 stfu
Yuck. Your little speech makes me want to stomp on puppies and kittens and sell the footage to creeps.
Reminds me of that stupid quote from interstellar wouldn’t hate also transcend time and space
7:50
It bothers me every time I see it, but no, the average life expectancy of 33 does not mean that people uncommonly lived to age 40-60. In fact, quite the contrary. What people fail to recognize is that the process of being born is so incredibly dangerous that almost a quarter of all infants died during or shortly after birth. However, if you survived being born, and you further avoided being part of the 25% who died between the ages of 0 to around 15, you could expect to live well into your 50s, 60s, or even 70s. Remember, if the *average* life expectancy is 33, that means there were enough people living to age 66+ to counter balance the 25% who died at birth, largely as a result of the human compassion as described in this video.
Actually, that's not quite right. There _are_ computations of "Life-Expectancy _at age_ 15", and those show that, if you made it to puberty, you'd most likely live until 40-50. Over-50 would still have been rare, and those who did were typically the upper-echelons of society.
We have the records, and in those cases where we don't, we can determine the age of skeletons … with error-bars on those ages. [Because despite what you may have been told, nobody in science ever produces dates & ages that are a single number, it's always "± something".] And taking into account measurements like, "was 43±4 years old," we can still come up with an average-age-of-death-range of the typical skeleton from a specific prehistoric era. And the adult skeletons were, on average around 40-50 years old.
You are _absolutely correct_ that infant and child mortality is what has skewed Life-Expectancy at Birth upward. However, we need to be careful not to use infant-mortality to swing too far in the other direction and assume that most people lived until 70 or 80. Because Life-Expectancy at 10 and at 15 shows otherwise. So, more people _are_ also living longer than humans did in the past, thanks to good healthcare throughout our lives reducing and/or slowing the wear-and-tear on our bodies.
Came to the comments hoping to find clarification on exactly this, so thanks to the both of you for highlighting these points!!
Thank you for helping to refute the obnoxious "fact" that people seem to parrot about humans living just as long back then as they do now. 😊
@@John_Weissthanks for adding clarity to the double dose of almost-misinformation. Stats is hard.
@@mynameisben123 I actually found a table of "Life Expectancy at Age 15" for various societies at various points in history. I wish I could find it again.
What it showed, IIRC, is that the Life Expectancy @ 15 throughout history ranged between 40 and 60, but never went over 60 _until_ the 20th Century.
So, to repeat for the people in the back who may not have heard clearly:
Yes, "Life Expectancy at Birth" is making it look like _lifespan_ is increasing, but it's not. *No,* that _does not_ mean there were lots of 70-80 year-olds in the past, because we can also look at Life Expectancy at 15.
The one about the 18 year old girl with paralysis and rotten teeth made me real sad for some reason.
Because, someone had to have been taking care of them, like you said, and they must've been so sad when she died.
Roman Noodles This comment has me in literal tears 😭
That's honestly devastating.
i hope it was a boy/girl freind.
or both.
Fuck ikr who tf is chopping onions...
Medieval people be like: *BEGONE DEMON!!*
"nah, he's funny, he can continue to corrupt our souls..."
Bards with high charisma in DnD.
@@MultiNaruto900 When you roll a Natural 20 and seduce the Pope.
Marqan xD
Even if you're disabled there is plenty of things you can do to be useful to your group. You can knap flint, make tools, arrow shafts, spears, watch the kids/fire, crush nuts, clean berries, tan hides, chew sinew, make bowstrings, make traps or just be a nice guy that can tell a good joke or story. I would even argue that it was easier to find meaningful tasks for disabled people in a hunter gatherer society then it is in our society. If you're disabled in a modern society you basically need to have a good head on your shoulder otherwise there is basically nothing you can do (not counting tax subsidized employment) because all tedious works i previously mentioned are not needed anymore or they are done by machines. The only difference now is that our society produces so much excess that taking care of non productive people isn't that much of a burden anymore.
So you can't be sure that nandy was a complete burden that didn't contribute anything to the groups survival. His teeth even have signs of atypical wearing, so maybe he chewed a lot of sinew or simply ate the less desirable food that weren't in high demand.
This! This is why I learned to knit. 😅 It may be hard for me to stand up for more than ten minutes, and my brain detects pain for no reason, but I can move my hands in a certain way thousands of times and make fabric! 😅
"The only difference now is that our society produces so much excess that taking care of non productive people isn't that much of a burden anymore."
Wow, great take!
That’s really cool! My adhd and social issues, although not to bad, greatly affect my ability to communicate and establish positive relationships. I used art as a way to contribute and now I make many life’s better by spreading joy!
@@ind0266 ah, that's great! I love art as well, what kind of art do you make?
Sometimes a group only needs that one person to stay awake through the night while everyone else gets some sleep. You only need to be able to call if help is needed.
For those who are disabled and feel hated by modern society, remember this - your ancestors would be so proud of you and what you’ve gone through. If they could meet you, they’d undoubtedly love you. I hope this brings you some comfort, as it does to me.
This hit me... Born with PFFD. Much love my guy
😮❤
I was born premature so I'm grateful to even be here!!
Crying in the club rn
i know this comment is like a year old but it made me cry (in a good way). i'm physically and neurodevelopmentally disabled and i often feel like i can't do enough. but youre right. thank you
@@Chadmiralsame here
14:15 "this woman's teeth [were full of] cavities from her family feeding her too many dates, apparently spoiling her with sweets." Man this is gonna make me cry, this is better than how we treat some of our disabled today
This comment made me cry 😭😭😭
when someone reaches an age we just throw the elderly away
there are ppl in this comments section who are less compassionate than literal fucking prehistoric humans. if i wasnt a proponent for revolutionary optimism id be a misanthrope by now
@@Dulanimare Seriously it sucks. Those types are also ironically also spout thinks about natural selection and survival of the fittest while clearly knowing little about either. We are an inherently social species and as such its evolutionarily beneficial to have compassion in spades. Its also why we have bigger brains in general, and why the most intelligent species happen to be social ones.
@@Mmax98406 Next time, you see someone who's pro-eugenics, remind them they're supporting the same BS that targeted non white people (esp black people).
Edit: Then again, they might make excuses or be openly for that shit too.
Man, as a disabled person, all this talk about empathy, those stories of ancient people being respected and cared for even though they were noticeably different from the pattern, along with the reconstructions of their faces, making them look more human, really warms my heart. I'll say I even got a bit emotional hah
Damn, now I wanna hug a disabled warrior cavewoman lol
What about a caveman?
DEATH BY SNU SNU
Oops, wrong video
I have aspergers do you think that's a disability?
@@beetlejooce6127 well which form? Low functioning is nearly the same as people with mental retardation just slightly being better off, but still can't live or do most things on their own so yes for them it is but for high functioning which i have no you can essentially get rid of the bad effects of it if you REALLY try of course it will still be there but you now know coping mechanism to help.
In primary school being disabled sucked ass. Then highschool came and we were all cool
Tribal child : *Coughs*
Tribesmen: Out of the womb and into the tomb
Here you are, Mrs. Urgh! Your beautiful baby boy!
He coughed while we were giving him his first exam, and he looks like he may be harboring a demon, so we've already begun digging his grave-hole.
Better luck next time!
Lol
I never laughed so hard 😂😂💀
Until aliens came and taught them how things work as said in their cave drawings.
Doctor we have prepared the burial mound
I had a genetic foot problem leaving me unable to walk much and with pain, and I was functionally blind as I was extremely short sighted. But, I had foot surgery and PRK laser eye surgery and was able to enlist in the U.S. Marines as a grunt. Quite the turn around and I am so grateful to live in this age.
I don't really get when people say society is getting worse. Like literal blindness can be cured with LASERS
@@LakesideTrey. Maybe due to marginalized people’s rights being taken away?
You’re lucky, I have a lazy eye and there’s nothing I can do to get accepted into the military. Ironically I would’ve actually been better off in past, when standards weren’t as high
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@@LakesideTreysociety can progress in some ways while regressing in others. Sadly it’s often the advancements in human rights that lead to a zealous pushback that can “overcompensate” to more restrictive laws.
I am currently writing my Master's thesis on this topic specifically. I'm terrified, it's daunting, it's new ground even for bioarchaeology, but I am not going to let this go. Thank you for this video!
i hope you dont fail
@@3211-m9q I won't! It's just an uphill battle getting through this last leg of the degree, is all 😂
@elebuu ok love you
I’m not sure if you’re done yet, but if not, good luck! If you’re done, I hope you did well! This is a fascinating topic to me.
@@Elebuu so how did it go?
Poor Nandy, partially blind, partially deaf, one arm, difficulty walking and worst of all...
He was ginger.
GAHH- too much. my sides
smirks in southpark*
don't feel bad for him he isn't even a human. Not because he was s Neanderthal but because he's a ginger.
What
Gingers were actually popular back then.
Well damn, I see how it is...
Ugh: I make wheel
Ook: Well I make chair
Grunk: help leg broke
Ook: *grabs grunk and puts him on the chair *
Grunk: how I move?
Ugh: *puts wheels on chair *
Grunk: me so fast
*Grunk later died after falling down the steps of the cave, as ramps had not been invented yet*
Top kek
Perfect.
f
poor Grunk
R.i.p Grunk
That girl from Arabian Peninsula made me tear up for no reason... That amount of care in such a harsh time is just another dimension of wholesomeness.
Disabled people aren't useless or helpless. Compassion? Yes.
But they can cook, weave, make tools, watch the kids, use their brain, etc.
Just because someone needs help; doesn't mean they're not worth helping.
Good presentation.
@Survivalist395 Really, though, while the world is bleak and back then things were much worse I still prefer to see those rare exemptions so that I can at least know what to work for In the future and see a little of what's good in us. Besides, aren't exceptions what lead change in the world?
what about mental disabilities, if they are serious enough they can barely do anything including physical activities
@@sebee5786 I get that. Some of my family have severe autism and it hurts to see. My aunts and uncles have told me that the best they can do for them is help them lead long, happy content lives even if said individuals may never leave their parents side. I'm hopeful tho, that we'll find cures for them
Oh but its well documented that ppl with severe autism, if started at a very young age can form schedules and guidelines that they can follow to get them thru their day, so its all really about how much time and effort you're willing to put towards these individuals
@@davantiowo6519I haven't met that many people with autism so i don't know exactly what their capabilities are but that is good to know, they can be very nice so that could give a morale boost for the group.
(btw I didn't mean to offend you if I did and I also hope that there will be a cure someday as well)
@@sebee5786 autism is a spectrum. Some autists are geniuses like Elon Musk, for unfortunate others it is a lot different, and everything is upsetting.
The story about the girl with Polio getting fed ridiculous amounts of dates by her family made me happy
Same, but in a sad kind of way. My initial thought was of parents or other family members (depending on how young she was when she caught the disease) stressed over the possibility of her dying soon and consoling themselves and her by giving her sweets as a distraction, or as a way to desperately either get some weight on her or at least letting her have something good before she dies.
I get a rather bitter-sweet image that they feed her those just after she contracted the illness to make her last days happy, but she just continues to live far beyond their expectation, and they just have to continue finding more and more dates to feed her, as they cant exactly stop, and still don't know how long she will last.
@@theconeezeanemperor1619 maybe at some point they started thinking the dates were helping her stay alive
She and her family certainly had a story.
And they eventually killed her with it. Maybe it was a long lasting and elaborate evil genius plan all along.
"Spoiling her with dates to make her happy."
I can't man. Had to pause and tear up.
I know it's really depressing
it’s actually so gorgeous
@@Laurabeck329 The parents were completely at their limits of how to help their beautiful, suffering child because she had an illness that was hardly manageable even today, that one of the few things they were able to do was to give her love and offer her sweets she loved to eat.
It was honestly so wholesome that they wanted to give her a little bit of joy in her life.
@@abbykaiherau7539 I think that the parents were doing wha tthey could for their litte girl. I think that's so sweet, giving her sweet to make her happy, maybe take her mind off her pain. Mum, Dad 💗💗
For the compassion point you discussed, I'd also like to point out one of my favourite sites: a double grave found in Israel that dates back to roughly 13,500 to 12,000 years ago where they put flowers into the grave before laying down the dead. The flowers were preserved as impressions in a layer of mud that was first put into the grave cavity. It's shortly before the start of human settlement pops up, so they might have still been what popular culture deems 'cavemen'. It's oddly sweet to think someone cared so much about these people that they were making sure they had a beautiful last image of them preserved in their mind, lying on a bed of fragrant purple flowers. It's very humanising, and I think we need that reminder sometimes, as archaeologists but also as a society, to see just how little the human experience (in a philosophical sense) has changed. They loved, they cared and they grieved just like we do today, and that's very very powerful to me
Studying the world I live in has tempered my anger, watered my compassion and amplified my joy. Thank you for adding to the circle of wisdom.
I love this! Very quotable
Studying the world feeds my anger, make me think humanity is a bunch of retards, and we should kill em all. Just check out unreported world. Some countries are just shithole we need to take down because they are bad for the whole world and are not ashamend
dixon1954 no worries bro I got ya
K boomer
@@4F6D Lemme add a part to the equation that may answer something for you. Free will doesn't exist and everything is luck based ultimately. People can and do fuck up, both in body and mind as the brain and it's contents are just as physical as the heart or skin.
The more people are educated and taken care of the less violence and abhorrent behavior we see.
As most perpetrators of the problems are people like you and me, who through selective empathy are able to justify doing something obvious morally reprehensible, by thinking of a fellow human being as an enemy. Ironically you are doing it now by thinking our species is worthless. To even come to that kinda notion at all, to say that existentially it's not worth it is honestly just a testament to human capability. To even discuss right and wrong, when no other beast does to our level.
It means we can change, but we need to understand WHY people fuck up, why things get miswired, fried or otherwise malfunction and what those break downs cause around us. Then we can get to work on making as few of them happen as possible
If life is unfair and nature is cruel, shouldn't we in realizing it as such work as hard as we can making it as fair as we can? Which is exactly what we do by taking care of people who by evolutionary standards are inferior, because we get, it's not their fault and we want to understand why things like that happen.
This shows they lived in a society
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so basically there *MONKY*
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That actually fits xD
This whole prehistoric humans caring for the disabled warms my heart so much. Neanderthals and early humans are represented too coldly in media. I could listen to these stories of remains and picture what these people would’ve been like all day.
@Luke Mackey it’s a simple request
it burns my heart, makes me want to take over earth to enforce logic
no more flawed DNA
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 Question, do you have light skin but live in near the Ecuator? Do you have dark skin but live near the poles? Then CONGRATULATIONS! YOUR DNA IS FLAWED!
@@rho9904 there is no logic behind emotion. it is brainwashing and default software. "on concept detected administer punishment", and you are ok with it. you didnt design your emotions. they are arbitrary. remove them for an advantage. DNA contains mind controlling parasite software because noone rational with any real goal would multiply.
imagine if everyone was cared for in the past no matter what and multiplied, what would have evolved would be horrible, in constant pain, cant walk, cant see, cant hear, unintelligent, etc.
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 I have my email on my account, ask for my location there and come get me, I'm flawed according to you so why not help by getting rid of me?
Whenever I’m feeing shitty after some ableism, I rewatch this to remind myself that there is kindness towards people like me recorded in even unwritten history
"next time you lose hope in humanity's goodness, if neandernthals could love and care for another, why shouldn't we?" Thank you Trey, I think we all really need that right now in June of 2020
Yes we do
fuck off nazi
Love the sarcasm
Reject humanity, become Neanderthal
Now if only I could find modern humans with enough compassion to stop parking illegally in my disabled parking spot in front of my apartment.
You know that ,you can call police on them and have them towed/charged, and sue the daylights out of them
@@willowarceneaux434 I've tried. Not to get anyone in any trouble but it takes away a spot from other residents who have the right to park there. But, since it it private property,, law enforcement has no authority. Isn't that ridiculous? And, so far, our new management has failed to hire a security patrol but they sure were fast to raise our rents.
Melissa Hollowell well I also live in a community that is on private property and you can sue; but this sounds like you’re upper level government needs to be informed about security patrol
What happened man
Get a valve core removal tool 😉
4:23 I was fully prepared for "before we talk about them, let's talk about the sponsor of this video.. SquareSpace.."
Avina Merkur how is that sad. He gets money if we watch ads and I’m all for helping a fellow UA-camr
Samesies. Or maybe audible
Same😂
This video honestly means so much to me. It feels so silly to admit, but I've always been insecure about not being physically tough or strong enough as well as the struggles that comes from being autistic and having ADHD, like I'm just so fundamentally abnormal as a person that I'd be a goner were I born in the prehistoric era. But knowing that isn't necessarily true feels really good.
I'm mentally disabled and, though not quite like the examples shown here, these just warm my heart man. Thank you.
same that's why I clicked on the video.
My girlfriends technically a little autistic so I date spectrum bitches
Is it wrong so say that I'd have cared for u in the wild
@@jbed6
Nobody cares
bepe that’s just straight up false. there is a spectrum, and everyone lies somewhere on it - my guess is that very few people are 100% not autistic.
Not gonna lie, that part about the girl with polio having cavities from all the sweet dates she was fed brought a tear to my eye. Never would have guessed early humans could have been compassionate. Great vid Trey!
XD same here, it's nice and reassuring to see that compassion is something that seems to be universal to almost all humans. I'm happy you enjoyed my video so much! Thank you so much :)
Mine too.
It didn't affect me because I don't feel anymore.
As a disabled anthropology student, I adored this video. I am very sick of the Neandertal slander, especially since they did seem to bury their dead very meticulously. These were our ancestors, and our ideas about intelligence- logical or emotional- were passed down. We need to stop treating the past with such disdain and to accept that we are culminations of a long lineage of intelligence.
No neanderthals are not our ancestors, the only humans today with any neanderthal lineage is african bono, but those genes are long gone.
frrr
"oh look at me
i'm neanderthal
I can make rock sharper than homo sapien can"
yeah and it only took you hundreds of thousands of years to learn it neandernerds
homo sapiens number 1, biggest brains there ever was
"We are the culminations of a long lineage of intelligence"
Very well put
@@tictacterminator Actually, the neandertals had a larger brain cavity. A theory on why homo sapiens lived as opposed to them is that we simply had a wider range and could adapt to new enviroments easier.
I'm so glad you covered the girl who loved dates-- because of her story, I tried dates for the first time, and she has excellent taste. They really taste like candy!
It seems to me. That prehistoric humans were guided largely by emotion, and not by philosophical reason, so of course they cared for their kin. It is human to feel love. And to want to help. The only reason later societies were disparaging of these unfortunate individuals is Bc they used reasoning and logic to deduce ones worth, instead of emotion. And in that way, their intelligence was actually their savagery.
and it seems now we have struck a general balance in society again.
This is basically the conclusion of famous French philosopher Jean Jacques Rousseau
That’s bs considering there are a lot of prehistoric Human societies that routinely cannibalized and ritualistic killed members of their own tribes.
@@adriandoesyoutube8092 yeah? what were they called?
@@elig3671 Let’s see, many Africans, Melanesians, native Americans, Pacific Islanders, basically any human group if you have geographical awareness and an IQ of at least 3.
You’re questioning as if human cannibalism for ritualistic purposes has never existed in ancient human society; sweetheart, it still exists today.
Awww, the story of the disabled girl who was fed dates warms my heart. So cute.
yeah! it made me cry
14:20 That's actually rather adorable that they kept feeding her sweet stuff to make her feel happy.
I think they knew she was going and it was just a little joy in her very painful life, may she RIP.😥
I haven’t been able to sleep and my mental health has been horrible. I’ve been scrolling UA-cam to distract myself from intrusive thoughts when this popped up. Idk why it was so heartwarming, but it kinda restored my faith in the world. If prehistoric humans would risk starvation to help a disabled member of their tribe because they cared about them, surely there is someone out there who wants to help me, right?
11:31 When someone already chose the username you wanted so you gotta be 'Romito 2'
lmao
Same bro
I think human life expectancy has gone down, I mean in 2019 if your healthy you can live to about 80, but these people out here being 4000 years old.
Edit: I haven't checked this in 8 months... Do people really find it that funny???
Not gonna lie you had me in the first half
Only 4000?
@Christina new laws state that you are now officially an adult at the age of 4000.
Lol 😂😂
WOAH EVERYONE SO FAR GOT THE JOKE???!!!
IM SO PROUD OF YOU ALL!
Hunter or warrior isn't the only skill that matters. A person could spend their time making clothing or weapons, cooking, childcare, or playing the role of a shaman. It's really just a question of how many homebodies a family can support. In fact, it's well understood that a tribe without elders is in a bad situation because they lose generational knowledge. This is true for whales and elephants as well - the loss of an old matriarch can have an indirect cascade effect that results in many more deaths.
Just collecting sticks for firewood would be extremely important.
Yup. A lot of people today like to toot the horn for hunters and warriors in prehistoric societies, but a community of ONLY hunters would be useless. Today we've been able to phase out an incredible amount of the miscellaneous duties necessary for society back then, but tool production, skin/leather treatment, cooking, home maintenance etc would have been extremely time consuming without necessary being very intense heavy labour.
Reasonably, there should have been a lot of necessary work available for the physically weaker members of society. Heck, even just being able to pass on specialist knowledge would have been extremely valuable in a society without written records. Taking care of old people especially would have been essential even after they become too frail to do the work themselves, since they would be the experts on several tasks and had to be kept alive until younger members of the society had absorbed as much as possible of that knowledge.
@lullabyneanderthal I think Trey was just advocating FOR the humanity of the prehistoric humans and AGAINST the otherwise preconceived notion that they were savages that modern humans have had of our prehistoric ancestors. But hey, we live and learn. We shouldn't bash ourselves for not knowing something right away, even if we assume it. Assuming isn't always the best idea, more often than not it's the worse choice, but I think we should also be more forgiving and less judgemental.
That's something humans have to practise on because we really, really should. That way we become more of a force for good than ever before. It's only recently that we've begun redeeming and reverting our past wrongs as best as we can but we're still ways off until we're doing our planet and its other inhabitants only good.
@lullabyneanderthal It's good that we humans start questioning the events of history because how else would we find things out if we weren't striving to find out how things really happened or probably happened? This is how Trey thought when he wanted to know how disabled people were treated back then. That is really good for us in the modern age because we don't know all that much of prehistory but we do know surprisingly a lot about that time period. But there is always more to find out of course. The question is what we're missing.
Prehistoric societies did not have the same scarcity/inequality we know today. It's after agriculture , money and inequality, and religion took over that people began to express more competitiveness than caring.
Thank you SO much for taking the time to research and create this. I have Cerebral Palsy and am a huge advocate for my community, and I find that even though anyone can become disabled at any time, there really isn't all that much disability history or other disability studies readily available. Even though it applies either directly or indirectly to everyone. It seems like today's society full of ableism could learn from the cavemen!
You know it's almost as if mutual aid and compassion were a factor of Evolution...
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mfw Kropotkin
Ohoh, I see you know the good word of Bread Santa as well
@@juniperrodley9843 Bread Santa is the real OG
Now we’ve evolved so much that we are losing our compassion
I want to imagine at one point a prehistoric doctor just said “Ooga Ooga Bro you’re blind.”
"Grug see no good, grug eye bad. Kug give rock and flower medicine. Grug sick now. Grug dies." *dies*
gurg say am sad grug die, am bury grug in special ritual grounds for revive.
*Confused unga bunga*
“somewhere along the lines we humans screwed up... we developed something called compassion”
🤣
Ramp Shark I think he's aware, he was trying to point out just how far we've fallen. Like we developed compassion and that was great but now we've got capitalism which isn't so great
Whiterun Guard A socialist system where the worker, instead of a single owner, owns the business. It wouldn't be too different from what we have today, only differences would be that you'd get paid more as you wouldn't have someone stealing the majority of your produced value and you'd have larger role in your work place as it'd be run democratically.
Before you spout anything about socialism not working or something. That's not true. Most places that call themselves socialist aren't even remotely socialist and second, I don't believe in socialism through the state, as in I don't believe the government owning business is socialism as the people do not have full control of the government. Like in America our leader wasn't even democratically elected, if you can't follow the simple rules of democracy then I obviously can't trust you own and operate my work place. I'm talking a system where instead of owners getting majority power, the worker does. That's socialism.
Capitalism = Economic Darwinism
@@EggEnjoyer ok commie
Wanted to share an interesting story that not only humans have compassion. So I used to have 5 adult cats that were brothers and sisters and were indoor-outdoor. And of course there were other homeless territorial cats in the neighborhood. They never let the other cats come into the backyard, except for one male who had an injured paw. They made us give him food and water outside and they protected and nurtured him back to health. A couple years later they did this again for another cat they invited: a young, tiny teenage tiny mother with kittens. And they protected and guarded her until the kittens were older. It's not just humans that have compassion.
*primates, not humans, sorry.
Thats cool
“Made us” you didn’t want to care for the injured cat ?? Or the cat with kittens? Man your cats had more empathy than you :( thank you for still caring for them
@@smears6039 we respected the decisions and wishes of our cats. During the period where there were some nasty mean stray cats around us for a while, our cats STOPPED asking for food and water outside because they didn’t want to provide nutrition to those cats who would only use it as invitation to invade their territory.
Same with raccoons. They don’t like raccoons and have been attacked by them in the past so we chase them away.
Imagine being a Greek philosopher and somehow being less compassionate than prehistoric humans.
There is one fact you ignore there were more people in rome than in cave so really need to look after each other but in rome human lifes are less valuable. You can see because they also have slavery
Asian Man - Euthanizing defective babies can be an act of compassion if those carrying out the euthanasia process trully believe the person they are euthanizing is better off dead than alive.
Luis Almeida I’m talking about one person. I agree with what you are saying. I’m just making fun of some who’s supposed to be smart who also believed in eugenics.
Asian Man “supposed to be smart” compassion does not equal intelligence. As much I want to disagree with him, he makes a very valid point. Getting rid of genetic disabilities as a form of ‘natural’ selection will have significant effects on the gene pool of future generations and will greatly improve the capabilities of our species. It’s unethical, but would greatly benefit everyone in the long term.
Bottle Yeet it doesn’t make it any less of a dumbass plan. It doesn’t matter if it would technically be good in the long run, it would only be good after killing countless innocent people. Your right, Compassion doesn’t equal intelligence. but if someone literally believes in eugenics then that actually makes them a moron.
When a Prehistoric Woman with a hip deformity is more inspiring than anything in 2020.
maybe you can't see what's in front of you
What isn't?
okay ben shapiro
@@luciferangelica the only thing in front of us are our phones, and the only things on them are war, death, famine, internet warzones, arguments, toxicity. we as humans have failed
@@harrietjameson i agree with most of that. man, shit is ugly, but not every single thing is. there are acts of courage, kindness, and humanity around us, and a lot if it is just mundane, every day things, and there is still beauty. i'm sitting in a dark room rn crying about how terrible the world is and how we're all doomed, and i don't know what to do about it, but there are actually things in this world that don't totally suck, if you don't believe me, get back to me and thirty years and tell me you don't miss any if what you have now, so i'm not willing to give up yet, even if anything i do will probably be meaningless in the scheme of things. btw, take a walk. like, i don't mean that as an insult, i just mean, go outside for a little bit
If only bones could talk...
what I would give to know those stories. I want a time machine!
Unfortunately even if we had time machines the environment of those pre-historic times would likely kill us 😞 we can still dream though
not if we bring guns
@@user-it2kq4ty9q na he's right. You'd probably need one of those pandemic suites. You konw one of those yellow ones which you use with a mask. But I doubt that they'd talk with you if you where something like that. Well not voluntarily... :D
Gilgarbro _ why the air wasnt toxic during the stone age
Gilgarbro _ we can breathe between 15 to 28 percent oxygen and be fine so the dinosaur air would cause problems but we would adjust
in prehistory i'd be fucking dead 1 day in
- asthma
- gluctose intolerant
- lactose intolerant
- allergic to moss and pollen
- thin skin
- eyesight so bad i'm legally blind
- requires 3 protein shakes a day since i cannot process true protein
- scoliosis which affects hips and spine (spine is tilted to the left
so yeah i'd be dead asf
Wouldn't you pay a lot to go back and find out what these people's stories were first-hand?
Mat Broomfield hell yeah I would, that’d be so cool
Prehistory is so fascinating
I hope when I die, the history of the universe is opened to me so I can watch, pause, rewind and read minds. I'm dying to know what it was LIKE back then. To actually believe you live next to blemmies and under the conflict of the gods.
@@BubblewrapHighway holy shit that'd be the coolest thing
Yeah sure, but pay can also bring hookers.. i always choose hookers before going back to find ppl stories.. but hey thats just me.
"but my favorite handicapped prehistoric man"
I too love disabled cave ppl
disabled cave ppl are so attractive
@@3211-m9q Indeed
3:31 this makes obvious sense, physical disability would have been pretty common in a society that hunts large prey to survive and in such small societies one can not afford to abandon a companion who is injured or disabled in a way that still allows them to function at least partially as a member of society. Compare that with ancient farming societies in which the average person was just considered a tool of royalty and you see where disregard for the disabled rationally comes from in traditional society.
The most straightforward and honest answer
It's rly strange that people can't comprehend that feudalism and capitalism weren't around forever and therefore think that everyone in history was just a selfish asshole
Don't forget colonialism.
When cavemen have a stronger family bond than most families in 2020.
The kids missing parents function in the modern human must be from the prehistoric time when their parents dont come back.
C-c-c-c-Capitalism! Tfw the working class is alienated
If you think about it, that makes sense. Back then, familial bonds were life or death, whereas that get less true the more societal we get - since if we're not at constant risk of predators because there's city walls between them and us, we're not having to constantly look over each other's shoulders every waking moment and trust that the person doing so isn't going to throw us to a hungry carnivore to save their own skin.
Charlie Parker I love this comment
Yeah because there lives were on the line if they weren't together 😑
The girl with the hip problem that was buried as a hero makes me feel like a badass because I have hip dysplasia
well your a hero yourself
You are a badass and have never been anything else. Besides something better then badass
You deal with a burden that most of us can't even fathom. Consider yourself a hero, too 😀
@KeepSlayinEm *hip dysplasia
You are a badass tho
I love how he says 15 year old boy, 10 year old boy and then 4000 year old woman.
Women live longer than men, you know xD
why my third eyes opened? What and also what are you even responing too?
Thinking about those humans millions of years ago that loved other people just like we do makes me so emotional tbh 10/10 video
Considering how several animals seem to show similar behavior, it's not that much of a surprise that humans did too. On a side note, a lot of these individuals in the video would probably make fantastic protagonists for books or movies. The lady with the hip deformity intrigues me. She must have done something really important to have been given such honors for her burial.
I said the same thing about making great movies with these guys haha
Not a prehistoric setting but you may enjoy "Geek Love". It's a terrific book with a disabled protagonist that covers some of these topics in a very engaging way.
Nandy was the inspiration for the character Creb in "The Clan of the Cave Bear".
@@wratched really ? this is so cool
Anime has the whole "Person with disability overcoming all obstacles in his or her way and making it to the top" Trope covered
why does "ghigau" translating to "greatly beloved women" make me so emotional lol
The thought that those far ancestors of us showed more compassion towards those in need gives me the good shivers.
Where even today you see scumbags mocking or even abusing disabled people.
Literally in the comment above you there are people arguing that we should make it illegal for disabled people to have children. As a disabled person, from a family full of other disabled people, you are right.
Everyones an a hole to everyone. You just stop caring after so long. Get with the program cave brain
@@bungiecrimes7247 It's ok if your parents never gave you love or cared for you, you can go to therapy to work it out but stfu with your edge lord stuff and go talk to a therapist
The people in this comment section ( at least part of it) is not passing the vibe check. So many of these random dude bros are dissing emotion, a very important and human part of existing.
@@Goofyguy23709 its just an act to "sound tough & edgy".
That last one is so fascinating; it should be a movie. I'd love to know more about her. At the mutter museum, the most fascinating part are the bones of people who were injured; diseased, or born with birth defects that survived, healed at least partially, and went on for many years. The number of sculls with trephanation who had very obvious healing afterwards was stunning. They survived? For YEARS? People are harder to kill that one might think! Thank you for a very enjoyable story!
Honestly though what percent of humans would reach adulthood without significant health problems when there was no medical knowledge, dentistry, or regular food sources even? If they killed the disabled people there would be very few people.
@@alien_invation371 "We don't want them breeding" sounds a bit eugenics-y. It's sort of attractive on the face of it, like, couldn't we make all humans healthier by breeding? Well, no. A good place to start is considering who should be allowed to breed and who shouldn't. See if you can set that line and defend it rationally.
@@alien_invation371 I'm not saying you couldn't change human genetics through "breeding," because of course you could. But I think it's worth considering how that would work and understanding that there has to be a value judgement there. For example, what are the best traits in a human - strength, mathematical intelligence, emotional intelligence, kindness, beauty - it's subjective. You might think "letting the weak ones live" is bad, but with modern technology we don't honestly need physical strength in our day to day lives. Anyway, it's just a question of what makes humans valuable and it gets questionable on a rational level when you start trying to rank them.
Back then tooth decay wouldn't have been as common but it probably would have been the worst way to die if it did happen
@@alien_invation371 *too. Also, we aren't "too smart for our own good". If we were less smart we wouldn't exist because our intelligence is the only thing we have going for us. Physically, we suck. We are slow, light, weak, and can't give birth on our own.
@@alien_invation371 also learn to spell, it's invasion. That makes me think though. What amuses me most about Nazis is how utterly useless all their might would be against an evolved predatory alien race. There's always a bigger fish, my emotionally stunted sad little friend.
The fact that 12000 years ago, women had more rights in Arabia than today in Saudi Arabia is mind-blowing
yep, welcome to men suddenly thinking theyre better and then everything going to shit from there
@@nome9752 well, the sect of Islam that's given the religion the reputation it has today originated in Saudi Arabia, and endorsed by its rulers long before they controlled the peninsula, so you could honestly blame the rulers for much of the violence going on in the Middle East. That isn't even touching on the regime's funding of terrorism
@Luke Shelby damn i didn’t know your name was Islam
@Dirt Murphy man I wasn’t saying Islam isn’t horrible I was just trying to be funny, on the internet
@@DrHorribleDH aren’t humans patriarchal in nature? It’s only nowadays where physical properties are less determinant to success that (rightfully so) women are becoming more equal.
I thought in some cases the reason people kept others with certain disablities is due to how they can be used. Like a person who can't walk could litterally just sit there and make baskets or prepare the food all day while those who can walk can't/won't. This way they are still valuable just in a different way. They can be used for very specific jobs that may be annoying/tedious in some form.
Either way, this is flat out amazing!
Cameo Shadowness agreed, this seems like a likely solution. I think it’s also important to note that they may have been more willing to aid those with disabilities simply because the “cost” of child birth was much higher. While it takes roughly 9 months to have a child, childhood and maternal mortality would have been much higher then (not to mention the difficulty of finding food to feed the pregnant mother). This would all contribute to a higher replacement cost for a given human - and if one human was disabled, there is no guarantee that the next one born won’t also be disabled, so just abandoning the first one in hopes that the next will be better isn’t a great strategy. Ultimately many people being born in those times ended up with a terrible disability called “death” - so if you managed to avoid that you were doing pretty good. And if you could contribute to the tribe a bit and manage to not be dead, even better. And as mentioned in my other comment on this video - your being taken care of might prove to be a powerful message to the rest of the tribe, letting them know that they can be expected to be taken care of if bad luck befalls them. And that is a valuable mindset to instill in your people, perhaps valuable enough to justify the expense of caring for someone.
I think there's a tendency to overthink how humans in prehistory thought about these things. Probably, they didn't. They just cared for their family/tribe, and would feel grief if something happened to them, regardless of any sort of cost/benefit analysis. Even to think that this person would do the jobs no one else wanted to do I think is a bit of a stretch. Some of the folks in the video probably couldn't do much of anything, but were loved regardless. Others were buried with high honors, clearly more important than just the person who did the tedious jobs. The fact is that, at least for the homo sapiens in the video, they're basically genetically identical to us. I don't judge my friends and family based on how they're useful to my survival, I just kinda love them. I imagine humans of prehistory were very much the same.
I think the time and effort it would take to take care of them would outweigh the benefits at best it was lighting the load a bit.
Romulus Numa
Yes but if they were considered a member of the tribe and had survived with them for many years, I don't see why they wouldn't have felt compassion to help him.
@@jamestang1227 I think compassion was the main reason too.
It really is touching to see compassion so far back in time, as well as in our cousin species. And I was touched to see the examples both in Neanderthal groups and in our own species. Thank you so much for uploading, Trey!