Daikin Fit Enhanced 🆚 Carrier Heat Pump 38MURA | 2024 Heat Pump Reviews
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In this video, we do a head to head comparison between the Daikin Fit Enhanced Heat Pump and the Carrier 38MURA Cold Climate Heat Pump. We discuss which Heat Pumps qualify for the heat pump tax credits available through the inflation reduction act, as well as which systems are best for your climate. The truth is that not all heat pumps work great in cold climates, and even some of them don't do well in hotter climates like Phoenix, AZ, and in this video we talk about which of these heat pumps will be best for your specific climate and how they compare to each other in both cold climate and hot climate performance.
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I have some 38MARB and a 38MURA. They are both silent on the compressor. Some fan/air noise by comparison to others like a Mitsubishi but very quiet systems
Right on! Thanks for sharing, I’ve never installed one but the specs seem to support that.
I'm running 38MURAQ with Nest wired as 2 stage, coupled with a Bryant Gas Furnace. I'm pleased to see that during cooling mode, during normal SoCal mild conditions, it is running 90% in first stage.
1. How much energy am I saving by running stage 1? %wise compared when running stage 2 cooling.
2. If it is wired with my next as 2 stage, is it running as a pure 2 stage, or is the unit communicating with the Bryant blower and doing some variable stuff still?
I know that with a communicating tstat it will be obv better running variable., but I dont' want their ugly tstat.
The Midea made Carrier ductless are great products! However, we sold the Daikin line as our high end brand! Especially loved our distributor! United Refrigeration
Right on! Yeah we love them too
Thanks for this. Did you find out any more about the energy star rating for the higher tonnage Bryant systems?
What’s your thoughts about using an ecobee vs their own thermostat?
its because it has to also hit 16 seer 2 rating
it had 16 seer 1 rating which seer 2 it derateds to like 15.3 seer 2
If you lived in a fairly cold climate like Southern Ontario and the cost for either unit was the same, which would you go with?
Probably Daikin Fit Enhanced, I’m not as familiar with the Carrier unit but either would work honestly. I would go with whichever contractor you like the best and what they sell so if you like the carrier contractor better do that, or if the Daikin contractor is better / better vibes go that route
@@TheHVACDopeShow Thanks! I got better vibes from the Carrier contractor so I ended up going with them. A couple days in now though and I'm 90% sure I regret my decision.
There doesn’t seem to be any variability with the heat pump/furnace.
Temp is set to 23.5. Nothing happens until it reaches 24. At that point, it comes on 100% and is super loud inside.
Hard to hear the TV, slight hissing noise, house sounds like it’s about to take off etc. My Apple Watch measured over 60db at one of the bedroom vents.
It runs for the 5 min minimum run time, and at that point hits 23 (below the 23.5 set point). Then repeat once it hits 24 again.
Just seems like it’s running more like a 1 stage than a variable that keeps a consistent temperature.
I knew that pairing it with an ecobee wouldn't be fully communicating, but I was under the impression from them that it'd be a similar experience as the outdoor unit does its own modulation.
I had them come by today to tune it down a bit (and they'll be installing another return air in the basement), but overall this is not what I was imagining when getting an inverter heat pump.
I've seen two videos of yours where you talk about the new Daikin's Fit *ENHANCED*, but when I go to Daikin's website they don't say "ENHANCED" anywhere (other than you showing us one model that you say is Enhanced)...how do I know which one is Enhanced and which one is the old Daikin Fit?
It has “E” in the nomenclature of the model… your contractor and every Daikin distributor knows so they’ll make sure you get the right one😁 it’s only critical in heating climates and/or high ambient (above 110F~ climates)
@@TheHVACDopeShow Thank you for the reply, I thought the "Enhanced ones" were better for cold climates (I'm in Canada). Guess I misunderstood in the previous video :)
the reason they dont qualify for rebate its because of seer rating it shows seer 16 when you convert it to seer 2 rating it sets it to like 15.2 seer 2
Four months and loving my Daikin Fit system, watched all your videos and this was a great choice. Keeps the house nice and cool even set at 76 and it is super quiet. The outside unit is so quiet, you have to be 2 ft away to even hear it running. Glad I made the daikin fit choice with your very helpful videos !!
Been happy with my Fit too. Took a couple months for the ac company to get the settings right, but once they did, been working great. I just wish their thermostats were better.
Agreed on the thermostats!
Glad it was helpful and you are loving your fit! They’re great 😁
Do you have Daiken installation and service people you recommend in central San Diego? Thank you.
Will check on this for you, I have someone in Orange County that I recommend, DGL, they’re very reliable but I don’t know if they service San Diego, let me ask around
I live in the Carson City, NV area. We are at about 4k ft altitude. The house is getting a new solar system and I want to switch over the gas mechanicals with electric. House is 15 yrs old, 2k sqft with high ceilings, and we need to start thinking about replacing the ac, gas water heater, gas furnace, etc. The solar system is going to be at least 13 kw. Electricity cost .11 kwh and we use about 1.1 K of electricity per month in summer. I'd like to replace the AC/furnace with a heat pump. I'm willing to pay more up front for a cold climate pump. Efficiency trumps appearance and sound. Looking at a system to use the current duct system. Any recommendations for an inverter pump?
Side discharge typically outperform in cold climates because of their design and how they work, so a Daikin fit enhanced is our go to for moderately cold climates for this reason. What are your summer temps like, over 105f? If not then a fit will keep up. Over 110 it still does in Phoenix for example but I’d probably look at maximizing AC efficiency over heating at that point
@@TheHVACDopeShow We have about 10 days over 100 degrees and most days from the middle of June to the middle of August are in the 90s
What is the current draw needed for the DF So. Calif. and yes we do need AC.
Amperage? It will vary by tonnage, largest systems require a 35 amp two pole breaker on the submittal sheet but it has to match the rating plate for code so you’ll be between a 20amp to 35 amp two pole breaker
3 ton.Thanks.
Something I noticed on the Carrier performance sheet is that the heating capacity is greater at 5F than at 17F. I find this odd, do you have any idea why this is happening? The Daikin appears to have a similar dip at 40F. I'm wondering if there's a legitimate technical reason or perhaps artificial throttling lets them game the efficiency ratings.
Yeah I am not sure… it’s probably like you said, a way to allow them to get a higher cop by “picking” the output in terms of capacity while also making sure it maintains a high enough efficiency rating to qualify for the COP tax credit requirements. But I was surprised to see that only the 1.5 and 2 ton carrier unit hit the cold climate energy star ratings
Living in Raleigh North Carolina. 3800 sqft. 2 story. 2100 sqft downstairs. Hardly use heat - like it Cold in my house. I like toKeep 65⁰ all year Around inside. 🤷♂️🤷♂️. Any Recommendations would be appreciated Thank you .
I see you saw the Daikin fit / Carrier 38Mura comparison video… honestly it just depends what’s important to you. For heating in your region any of the inverter heat pumps will keep up like the Daikin fit, but if comfort is not important to you and you don’t want the quieter systems then I wouldn’t worry about going with an inverter. Your climate does have decent heating and cooling demands though so you’d still see a savings going that route. Not sure if my comments are helpful but if you like it cold in the summer too I would think it would be worth it for sure to get inverter / Daikin fit type of system… 65 for AC is very cold! And the fit (most inverters with an EEV) does an excellent job of cooling and is better than a basic single stage. If you read through the comments on the Daikin fit video you’ll see mostly positive reviews, they work great. Sometimes takes some finetuning on start up but mostly legit
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Appreciate your tips. Thanks again
I had a question on Daikin fit systems because of it being variable. How do you know when that system has reached 100% capacity or how can you get it to 100% capacity?
It does it on its own it’s outside of your control, trust me you’ll be comfortable haha there’s a lot of engineering that goes into it so it knows when to ramp up
Are you having an issue with it? Short answer is it’s based on set point so if your thermostat is set at 70 and it’s 80 in the house, it will start ramping up to 80-100% capacity, and modulate as the set point gets closer, but it rarely hits 100% and tries not to for efficiency purposes. If you are having an issue with it not keeping up lmk
If 38MURA is not a communicating system, and outdoor and indoor units are both variable speeds - how do they synchronize? Do they work independently? I thought if an outdoor condenser slows down - the air handler should also slow down. Can you explain please?
They’ll work independently correct… Bosch does this and the condenser ramps up slowly based on pressures and ramps down based on temps and pressures to maintain 355 psi head pressure and steady suction line temp (I believe its at 47F or 54F I can’t remember honestly) but I remember the way they explained it was it’s basically not paying attention to anything except a couple parameters and then ramps up and down based on that and a standard legacy 24 volt signal for heating or cooling
I have a question. I am in a position to need a replacement at a house near vero beach Florida. Probably a half mile from the ocean so it definitely gets salty air. I have a fit At a house in Ohio, three years. It’s been a good unit very quiet which is the main reason I purchased it. I’m finding some contractors and Florida seem to push away from the fit. Two reasons have been given one that they don’t last in the salt climate, second that they are having issues with the compressors burning up. I’m not sure if this is a bad sales pitch to push me to a Goodman, or is it legitimate. Would love to hear from you, or anyone who has the fit near the sea in Florida, Florida, climate, etc. to see if it’s a good solution. 1800 square feet, current trane is a 3.5 ton unit.
I haven’t heard that but honestly in my opinion locals will know best because they don’t want to service something that has chronic issues. If that’s the case did they push you towards a single stage or two stage system? Just curious
Great video. I'd enjoy seeing a comparison between the Daikin Fit Enhanced and a Mitsubishi. I've always had the impression that Mitsubishi inverter systems are the gold standard. Thanks.
Yeah I could do one on the intelliheat system, that would be a good video. Mitsubishi is more known for their ductless systems than forced air but I can definitely add that video to the queue, we have a lot of videos in process at the moment that will be out soon but will definitely add this to the list!
1400 sq ft 2 story home near Sacramento . I'm thinking of replacing my HVAC with a Daikin heat pump 3 ton
That’s a great system for that region! Very moderate cold climate and the high temps are also relatively moderate even though you break 100F it’s not as intense as Phoenix for example
Hello! Does your company service Colorado Springs? We are considering replacing our old gas fired furnace with a heat pump.
Not currently! We used to but have since stopped just due to logistical reasons. Peak Home Performance is who we recommend down there, 719-358-6992
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Had my DaiKin Fit since 2019 in Texas, ❤ it😊
Awesome 😁 Glad you’re enjoying it we love the fits too!
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I was in a Costco in Mexico. I saw a one ton Carrier mini split unit. I thought of purchasing it and bringing it back to the US. My good friend told me not to bother, they were junk made in China. Now I see this online 😅
Carrier mini-splits are made by Midea. They are great units but you can get them in the states. They are very common.