Why is it so hard to make pumped in audio? So many cars sound soooo bad including this BRZ. Why not hire the people who make in car sounds for videogames? It blows my mind. The only good sounding pumped in audio that I've heard is the Elantra N. You can pick from a few types but there's one called "Performance" which sounds completely realistic.
Toyota is definitely taking full advantage of the synergies this vehicle has opened up....(cough) er, gouging their customers. I think the GR86 looks better though? 😠👿
You have to press and hold the left button for like 5 seconds to turn everything off. It does turn all the assists off and won't turn them back on on them own.
And pat your tummy and rub your head. And count backwards from 100...in Latin. And viola': Unleash the beast! Okay, actually, bog down on launch and get laughed at.
Picked up a sport tech BRZ in April, loving it. Fake noise is a easy unplug by the glove box. The BRZ outsells the GR86 in Canada because you can only order a BRZ and the GR86 is allocation to dealer only.
I wanted a gr86 it was hard to get so I ended up with a used miata rf with brembo and bbs for 27k with 15k km. And It's the most fun car I've ever driven.
I asked my dealer to turn off the pumped in noise and they did it no problem. It’s a million times better especially if you drive with the windows down. The lowered windows would rattle inside the door because the speakers were making the fake rumble noise.
I have a the new BRZ in white with the limited trim with a muffler delete Remark exhaust and its honestly the best sports car ive driven outside of a GT3 or GT4, in terms of driver connection with a lightweight balanced chassis nothing else besides Porsche GT cars come close to the pleasure u get from driving these cars!
The pumped in audio can be turned off by the dealer at no charge. Need to tell them to turn "ASC" (Active Sound Control) off. No need to do any aftermarket stuff.
Personally, I'm going with a BRZ. I think they look a little better, but mostly because Subaru lets you order cars and their dealers are significantly better to work with. The car is a Subaru anyway.
RTV is BS. If you beat the crap out of this and do 1.0g right handers with elevation changes, there’s an increased risk of oil starvation……probably translates into a higher rate of engine failure than the avg engine where all modern engines have very very small risk of failure.
@@davidpfrey Makes me wonder what the car would be like if Toyota put the GR Corolla engine in the GR86. The Corolla is rated at 1 MPG more on both cycles, but an 86 with that engine would weigh 450 pounds or so less than the Corolla and have a smaller frontal area for less drag.
6:05 Just a note, I have a gr86, and so I'm assuming it's the same. In order to turn off both traction control and stability control at the same time, You have to hold the right side button to put it into race track mode, AND THEN hold the left traction control button for a few seconds. Puts it into a second track mode which has both stability control and interaction control off.
You don't actually have to put it into track mode first. Just push and hold the left traction control off button for a few seconds and it'll turn everything off
Exactly: if you don't like the tires, just wear them out and then put whatever you desire on. I hear reviewers complain about tire choices on cars as if they don't know tires are replaceable. So props for saying that.
11:24 why do people, even car enthusiasts, always act like it's weird when manual transmission vehicles have cruise control?! it's literally the EXACT SAME system the automatic version of a car uses, just with the clutch pedal switch added alongside the brake pedal switch to turn it off
There's an amazing MotorTrend article by Johnny Lieberman (tbt) about the 2018 tS, where he compares it to repeatedly asking for more "tare" (seasoning) in your ramen, and instead being given more noodles, meat, and broth - sure, it's nice, but it's *_not what you asked for_*
And I'll assume Mr. Metaphor would make this into unobtainium to the people who really need it: Namely young drivers learning to love a three-pedal sports car driving experience. The same clowns talked Toyota into turbocharging the MR2...which effectively killed it.
I'm sure others have said it by now, but turning traction fully off is easy. Press and hold the traction off button until the traction light illuminates and the tach switches to the horizontal bar gauge. Then it 100% off off and will let you make whatever heroic drifts/dumb mistakes you choose to attempt.
@@TheStraightPipes are you sure? I'm not talking about track mode, there's a second drive mode that uses the horizontal tach. I can DM you a video on eye-gee if you want so we can determine if we're talking about the same thing. Be interesting to know if they changed it so it no longer works
A couple of honest questions from someone considering buying one of these: 1) How big a deal is the oil starvation in hard turns issue? I mean, do you have to pull a G+ for a LONG time for it to happen - or what? 2) Is the excessive RTV in the engine (potentially clogging the oil pickup) still a thing or has that been corrected? Thanks!
It’s pretty much a non existent issue if the car has stock tires. The oil pressure issue can only happen if you’re running aftermarket grippier tires. And even then you really have to be abusing the car like crazy for anything bad to happen
To fully disable traction control, it's different in 2024: You can no longer simply press and hold the left "OFF" button. Instead, you must first be in TRACK mode using the right button, only after that can you press and hold the left "OFF" button. It's silly.
Ts = track starter kit. That's a better description of what this package is really about. Suspension, tires, and brakes. Pretty much some of the first things you will do when tracking your car.
no, that's not why it is because ALL toyota dealers try to notoriously rip people off buying a GR86 and most subaru dealers will charge you exactly the MSRP on a BRZ. I honestly don't know if I will ever buy another toyota again in my life after the way they treated me and others with the GR corolla and 86 fiasco. Even buying rav4s they were ripping people off for a while.
I think if y'all could add the vehicle's weight along with the horsepower and torque numbers, it could put into perspective how well the engine is working to move the vehicle. Gas milage would also be great in your reviews. Thanks!
I sold my 2016 MX5 Miata and bought a '24 BRZ tS. Was a tough decision because I LOVED the Mazda (my second one - had a first gen a while back). I realized that even though the Mazda was really more fun to drive vs the BRZ , it has limited practicality. I am a tall guy and I felt squished with the top up, the car was really skittish in heavy rain and not a good car for a road trip for two people due to lack of luggage space (the GF always overpacks!). The BRZ fixes all of that (and I can drive it more often and feel comfortable on a longer trip. Plus for me at least the BRZ is nine and a half tenths (vs the Mazda) on the fun-to-drive scale. I miss the convertible, but I have another convertible so I still have top-down fun when the sun and temperature send me the invitation. Long live RWD, manual, normally aspirated sports cars. Get one of these while you still can.
@TheStraightPipes 😂skibbidi toilets are part of this series of videos on youtube and have been a meme due to them. My cousin loves them, but mind you, he's 14 so I've been equally as confused
J’s OMG look while Yuri was taking that sweeper corner was priceless. Great car for young enthusiasts. High insurance costs and a lot of oil changes. Fuel costs will be high.
The insurance is just silly. My niece's husband has one of the Scions from the first gen and they soak them for....let's just say it's a lot for a car that old.
@@TheStraightPipes way way too bad if they eliminated that ability to complete disable both. However, track mode still lets you go quite far and you won't end up in the grass!
In comparison to the previous model this car makes around 40 more hp and 40 more torque to the wheels than the last car, those are very close numbers to a stage one turbo, or a basic supercharger, I've kept up with a V8 challenger in a drag race so that counts for something!
@@MistaFaro I know it got faster. I actually wanted one 2 years ago, but because dealerships wanted to charge nearly $40k OTD, I ended up settling for a Tesla Model 3 instead.
Still miss my '13 FRS, perfect car for fun and everyday. Once I am done with my used '15 WRX I want to go BRZ/86 again. Missing form this review, will it baby? Car seat test pls😂
@@Denverian I never had anyone tall sit behind me (6'2") but id put full grown 6'+men in the back all the time! They are not exactly comfortable and never for long trips, but a child can easily fit passenger side.
Subaru dealer disabled the pumped audio since day one (2 years ago) at my request. Did it from a tablet connected to car. As simple as that. No charges. In the showroom before I signed the contract!!
Functionally, this is a package with better brakes and dampers. The tires and wheels are basically a wash with the Limited. OTOH, the aftermarket price for similar brakes is about $4K US before installation.
Jacob and Yuri be beefing in these videos, been like this for at least a few years though. I guess that's what happens when you spend enough time with one person
@@datboi1290 but you're right. Let me fix it. This has a better power to weight ratio than a 2024 wrx and yet people call it slow. (12.9 lbs per hp for the wrx and 12.4 for the brz) Better?
I just got the 2024 new wrx tr, the signal stalks in it has been updated and now it stays in position then goes back to middle once done. I had the 2022 wrx and I just hated that signal stalk where it stays in middle, when you change lanes it can be annoying.
It's a street car. Anyone tracking this should do a whole host of things before they go that route. I'm sure an aftermarket baffle would do the job better than whatever the corporate beancounters signed off on.
Toyota dealerships are a nightmare, constantly trying to rip you off, so it doesn’t surprise me that BRZ sells more. The dealership experience is a huge reason Subarus are popular.
Hey guys. I tried your truecar link for a porsche and two cars that were listed I asked about they both said the car is no longer available. Meh. Seems to be a scam to try using your link guys. Dealers don’t deal with your referrals. Probably because they don’t want to give a discount. Lame
I know not the same class of car but, now you both being people with families…would you take an 86/brz (30k) or civic si (also 30k). Aim is a car that can be satisfying to drive (steering, shifter etc) and also take baby around sometimes. Background I’m at the point in my life where I’ve done my rwd shenanigans and don’t value it as much. Wife has a practical car.
I noticed yall said there’s no way to fully defeat the traction and stability control. I know that the 22 and 23s of you hold the traction off button, it shuts it all off completely. But for these 24s, it’s a little bit different, I think you have to hold them both down or like, have it in track mode and hold down the traction off button. I’m not sure, I have a 22
I’m 18 living in the uk. I want to drive a sick manual car so bad, with a notchy gearbox. But until you’re like 23-24 insurance is like 8 grand a year💀
Paying more just to not get a really cool wing is kind of insane to me. What do you get? Gold painted calipers when the limited has the same brakes? If you weren't driving a lower trim would you really be able to tell that the damping tuning is any different? I seriously doubt it.
I’d be careful sending around cliche too hard, might cause oil pickups to go dry and starve the engine (why this hasn’t been fixed yet is beyond believable)
The BRZ out-sold the GR86 probably because Toyota dealerships are less likely to discount the MSRP. Edmunds prices indicate lower prices for similarly equipped cars from Subaru and Toyota. It's why I got a BRZ tS yesterday instead of a GR86 Premium with Performance Package. Subaru makes less on each car but sells more.
as a gr86 owner with 20000miles. hate the fuel economy. and the cheap shitty spine tingling shocks. other than that i would never sell it. u cant replicate what this car is anymore. while silvias with an sr20 r going from 18k-35k. the twins are our modern day ‘S16’
idk im still happy with my 2020 tS its similar, has more cool stuff like red seatbelts and imo better looking seats. Also i love knowing its 1 of 300 instead of 1 of however many. either way they are amazing cars
As a BRZ owner there is absolutely an ALL OFF function for traction. If you press and hold that left side traction button it turns off ALL the nannies.
That's too many letters for that little power. But it does look like a lot of fun to drive which is important. The shifter seems really good. If their are more BRZ's sold than I would opt to get it's twin GR86 if it's the same cost.
So now this is just the Performance Package disguised as an STI? Interesting move, I like drifting so for starters the GR 86 is more for me than the base BRZ but with even less drift, yeah, I prefer the 86 :), But if you Autocross this? This is THE way to go. Also, to turn Traction Control off you just have to hold the button for like 5 seconds not a single press.
I would assume BRZ is outselling 86 because toyota has been notoriously difficult to order with since rona, and is much more likely to add mark ups. With the brz you can easily custom order exactly how you want, and get better financing. Additionally the GR is a couple grand more for seemingly no reason, and personally I like the front fascia of the brz
Pumped in audio sounds like a Mario Kart sound file lol
Can be unplugged in 2 min
@@stms4411 nah, you just play Mario kart music in the background
Why is it so hard to make pumped in audio? So many cars sound soooo bad including this BRZ. Why not hire the people who make in car sounds for videogames? It blows my mind. The only good sounding pumped in audio that I've heard is the Elantra N. You can pick from a few types but there's one called "Performance" which sounds completely realistic.
Should play the finish line music when we arrive at the destination lol
@@EvilSardine084 I think it’s cause it’s cheaper to make the synthesized garbage, personally I just changed the catback and got my noise lol
I think the sales disparity between the GR86 & BRZ is simply due to availability and horrendous Toyota dealer markups. That’s about it.
Toyota is definitely taking full advantage of the synergies this vehicle has opened up....(cough) er, gouging their customers. I think the GR86 looks better though? 😠👿
I saw below MSRP on subaru's lot for a 2024.
@@laxminarayananks1520Subaru will deal on these, no doubt. Toyota and GR86...not so much.
I bought a brz with zero markup 1.5 years ago. 86s I looked at had markups from $10-15k. So yea it was a no brainer.
You have to press and hold the left button for like 5 seconds to turn everything off. It does turn all the assists off and won't turn them back on on them own.
This^
Yuri asking all the right questions right off the bat lol.
Lol Yuri trying to get a reaction while describing the "slapping" shift light! Jakub all business today.
It was game over if I lost my train of thought and I had no idea what he said
@@TheStraightPipes Lol it's truly like a marriage!
LMFAOO what was going on at 06:08 LMFAOO
Brain rot
Oxygen deprivation
skibidi toilet done got yuri
bro WHAT 😭😭
@@OMGVelorium yeah ur cooked, u must be fun at party’s
From reddit: Turn on Track Mode, THEN hold the VSC button for 3+ seconds while stopped.
And pat your tummy and rub your head. And count backwards from 100...in Latin. And viola': Unleash the beast! Okay, actually, bog down on launch and get laughed at.
I just hold the left button until it turns everything off
@@cbotten106that’s the first gen 😂
late to the party but... in my '23 BRZ it is just press and hold both buttons while stopped for ~10 seconds
Picked up a sport tech BRZ in April, loving it. Fake noise is a easy unplug by the glove box. The BRZ outsells the GR86 in Canada because you can only order a BRZ and the GR86 is allocation to dealer only.
I wanted a gr86 it was hard to get so I ended up with a used miata rf with brembo and bbs for 27k with 15k km. And It's the most fun car I've ever driven.
@@CuongNguyen-kz4lv Congrats, enjoy that Miata!
The BRZ is also less money.
I asked my dealer to turn off the pumped in noise and they did it no problem. It’s a million times better especially if you drive with the windows down. The lowered windows would rattle inside the door because the speakers were making the fake rumble noise.
I have a the new BRZ in white with the limited trim with a muffler delete Remark exhaust and its honestly the best sports car ive driven outside of a GT3 or GT4, in terms of driver connection with a lightweight balanced chassis nothing else besides Porsche GT cars come close to the pleasure u get from driving these cars!
The pumped in audio can be turned off by the dealer at no charge. Need to tell them to turn "ASC" (Active Sound Control) off. No need to do any aftermarket stuff.
Why we gotta go to the dealer though????
Well then just unplug it at home lol
Really hard to decide between this and a GR86 but luckily the interest rates made that decision for me
Idk why either , when there better options than a engine filled with rtv 😂
Personally, I'm going with a BRZ. I think they look a little better, but mostly because Subaru lets you order cars and their dealers are significantly better to work with. The car is a Subaru anyway.
@@jasonmoyerthis will probably tip my decision in Subaru’s favor as well! Those Toyota stealerships are a bunch of asses I swear smh
@@cormaro13RTV hasn’t caused any issues thus far.
RTV is BS. If you beat the crap out of this and do 1.0g right handers with elevation changes, there’s an increased risk of oil starvation……probably translates into a higher rate of engine failure than the avg engine where all modern engines have very very small risk of failure.
Hard to fault this car. Does exactly what you’d expect, nothing more
I can fault it. It's a gas hog and Spine Melter 5000. Feels like it has no suspension and the stock brakes are worse than a Corolla.
@@r3games1985 a gas hog? Bruh
It's not bad on gas compared to a V8 Mustang, but it has worse fuel economy than a Civic Type R, Golf R or MX-5.
@@davidpfrey
Makes me wonder what the car would be like if Toyota put the GR Corolla engine in the GR86. The Corolla is rated at 1 MPG more on both cycles, but an 86 with that engine would weigh 450 pounds or so less than the Corolla and have a smaller frontal area for less drag.
Oil starvation
5:41 there definitely is a off off you have to hold the traction off button for a couple of seconds and both traction and stability will turn off
6:05 Just a note, I have a gr86, and so I'm assuming it's the same. In order to turn off both traction control and stability control at the same time, You have to hold the right side button to put it into race track mode, AND THEN hold the left traction control button for a few seconds. Puts it into a second track mode which has both stability control and interaction control off.
You don't actually have to put it into track mode first. Just push and hold the left traction control off button for a few seconds and it'll turn everything off
@@gnarjunkie mine doesn't do that for some reason. Strange lol
6:40 Fun to drive
7:50 How it sounds from the outside
11:30 Infotainment; interior
In Australia you can option the BRZ tS with a $4k STi lip kit and a $6k dry carbon swan neck spoiler. A $10k kit for a $50k car!
Love this setup! The 24 BRZ tS is just a perfect enthusiast drivers recipe to me.
5:34 you actually can completely disable traction control and stability control by holding the tc button for a few seconds.
Exactly: if you don't like the tires, just wear them out and then put whatever you desire on. I hear reviewers complain about tire choices on cars as if they don't know tires are replaceable. So props for saying that.
The TS emblem next to the BRZ badge seems like an odd place to put it.
11:24 why do people, even car enthusiasts, always act like it's weird when manual transmission vehicles have cruise control?! it's literally the EXACT SAME system the automatic version of a car uses, just with the clutch pedal switch added alongside the brake pedal switch to turn it off
That engine note is hilarious
The real sound or that piped in fake noise?
That’s the fake noise. Can you unplug it behind a panel on the passenger side door.
@@cbotten106 the fake one. Mario Kart ahh sound
There's an amazing MotorTrend article by Johnny Lieberman (tbt) about the 2018 tS, where he compares it to repeatedly asking for more "tare" (seasoning) in your ramen, and instead being given more noodles, meat, and broth - sure, it's nice, but it's *_not what you asked for_*
Amazing. Writers love their metaphor. If you aren’t good at metaphors you can’t write about cars. It’s the rule. That’s why we stick to video
And I'll assume Mr. Metaphor would make this into unobtainium to the people who really need it: Namely young drivers learning to love a three-pedal sports car driving experience. The same clowns talked Toyota into turbocharging the MR2...which effectively killed it.
"still not going to jail" after getting to 4th is a good summary lol
I'm sure others have said it by now, but turning traction fully off is easy. Press and hold the traction off button until the traction light illuminates and the tach switches to the horizontal bar gauge. Then it 100% off off and will let you make whatever heroic drifts/dumb mistakes you choose to attempt.
It’s not 100% off in that mode. That’s the mode we were driving in and it was still intervening
@@TheStraightPipes are you sure? I'm not talking about track mode, there's a second drive mode that uses the horizontal tach. I can DM you a video on eye-gee if you want so we can determine if we're talking about the same thing. Be interesting to know if they changed it so it no longer works
A couple of honest questions from someone considering buying one of these:
1) How big a deal is the oil starvation in hard turns issue? I mean, do you have to pull a G+ for a LONG time for it to happen - or what?
2) Is the excessive RTV in the engine (potentially clogging the oil pickup) still a thing or has that been corrected?
Thanks!
It’s pretty much a non existent issue if the car has stock tires. The oil pressure issue can only happen if you’re running aftermarket grippier tires. And even then you really have to be abusing the car like crazy for anything bad to happen
To fully disable traction control, it's different in 2024: You can no longer simply press and hold the left "OFF" button. Instead, you must first be in TRACK mode using the right button, only after that can you press and hold the left "OFF" button. It's silly.
Ts = track starter kit. That's a better description of what this package is really about.
Suspension, tires, and brakes. Pretty much some of the first things you will do when tracking your car.
no, that's not why it is because ALL toyota dealers try to notoriously rip people off buying a GR86 and most subaru dealers will charge you exactly the MSRP on a BRZ.
I honestly don't know if I will ever buy another toyota again in my life after the way they treated me and others with the GR corolla and 86 fiasco. Even buying rav4s they were ripping people off for a while.
I think if y'all could add the vehicle's weight along with the horsepower and torque numbers, it could put into perspective how well the engine is working to move the vehicle. Gas milage would also be great in your reviews. Thanks!
I sold my 2016 MX5 Miata and bought a '24 BRZ tS. Was a tough decision because I LOVED the Mazda (my second one - had a first gen a while back). I realized that even though the Mazda was really more fun to drive vs the BRZ , it has limited practicality. I am a tall guy and I felt squished with the top up, the car was really skittish in heavy rain and not a good car for a road trip for two people due to lack of luggage space (the GF always overpacks!). The BRZ fixes all of that (and I can drive it more often and feel comfortable on a longer trip. Plus for me at least the BRZ is nine and a half tenths (vs the Mazda) on the fun-to-drive scale. I miss the convertible, but I have another convertible so I still have top-down fun when the sun and temperature send me the invitation. Long live RWD, manual, normally aspirated sports cars. Get one of these while you still can.
Takeaway from a video about a subaru brz ts: skibbidi toilet
I heard a kid singing that in a line. I’m confused -yuri
Should have been called brz st
@TheStraightPipes 😂skibbidi toilets are part of this series of videos on youtube and have been a meme due to them. My cousin loves them, but mind you, he's 14 so I've been equally as confused
Yeah, but Jakob either missed it, or ignored him. 😁
@anthonycanizales9541 i am 13, i guess i dont understand the obsession?
J’s OMG look while Yuri was taking that sweeper corner was priceless. Great car for young enthusiasts. High insurance costs and a lot of oil changes. Fuel costs will be high.
The insurance is just silly. My niece's husband has one of the Scions from the first gen and they soak them for....let's just say it's a lot for a car that old.
5:50 Press and HOLD the left button for 3 seconds to completely defeat both traction and stability! This info should really be in the manual.
Tried. Didn’t do anything
Wasn't a thing after the 2017 models. The new track mode is really good. Only other way is the trouble shoot mode or "pedal dance"
@@TheStraightPipes way way too bad if they eliminated that ability to complete disable both. However, track mode still lets you go quite far and you won't end up in the grass!
@@tragicnomadicWorks just fine on my 2020 BRZ. Right button for track mode and hold the left for 5s to turn everything off.
They changed it for the 2024 model. Now you have to put it in track mode first and then hold the left traction button for 3 seconds for it to work.
Still have my 2014 White BRZ. Keeper for life.
❤
1:31 my eyes lit up for a sec -- really thought there'd be a turbo
In comparison to the previous model this car makes around 40 more hp and 40 more torque to the wheels than the last car, those are very close numbers to a stage one turbo, or a basic supercharger, I've kept up with a V8 challenger in a drag race so that counts for something!
@@MistaFaro I know it got faster. I actually wanted one 2 years ago, but because dealerships wanted to charge nearly $40k OTD, I ended up settling for a Tesla Model 3 instead.
Still miss my '13 FRS, perfect car for fun and everyday.
Once I am done with my used '15 WRX I want to go BRZ/86 again.
Missing form this review, will it baby? Car seat test pls😂
even a 6 year old can't sit in the back comfortably. Don't expect car seat to fit behind the driver seat lol
@@Denverian I never had anyone tall sit behind me (6'2") but id put full grown 6'+men in the back all the time! They are not exactly comfortable and never for long trips, but a child can easily fit passenger side.
Subaru dealer disabled the pumped audio since day one (2 years ago) at my request. Did it from a tablet connected to car. As simple as that. No charges. In the showroom before I signed the contract!!
I wish they made a T top/targa version .........that would be epic
Yes, Honda Del Sol or 1989 Toyota MR2 Turbo type of vibe.
They dont have the balls.
@@fortheloveofnoise Balls being enough extra structural integrity to survive a late roof deletion. Then yes, no balls! ⚾🥎🏈⚽
Functionally, this is a package with better brakes and dampers. The tires and wheels are basically a wash with the Limited. OTOH, the aftermarket price for similar brakes is about $4K US before installation.
"still not going to jail" 0:34
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The engine sounds great from the outside. Where did they source the fake engine sounds? Doesn’t sound like the same car lol
Took my Ts to the mountains. Did 60-70mph on turns and it handled amazing , well I do have an aftermarket strut bar tho.
If you enter track mode and then press and hold the off button for 20 second you completely turn off traction control,
6:10 erm what the sigma
Sigmaballs
@@TheStraightPipes
Who is this guy? 😂
That is the most egregious pumped in audio I've ever heard 😂
Have you heard the Hyundai Ionic 5N?
Looks fantastic! This best of the best without leaking roof!
In Vietnam we get to option it with an STI package which gives you wing and body kits. Sick
Jacob and Yuri be beefing in these videos, been like this for at least a few years though. I guess that's what happens when you spend enough time with one person
Yup lol
you need to hold the TC off button down for like 3 sec
Does the Toyota pedal dance still work on these? I had the 2018 model and it worked. That shuts off all the assists.
This has a better weight to power ratio than an 04 wrx yet people call it slow.
You just compared cars with a 20 year age difference 😭
@@datboi1290 yes. In a world everything is getting heavier each day. This is a win. Even 1 more hp with no turbo and 400 less pounds.
@@datboi1290 but you're right.
Let me fix it. This has a better power to weight ratio than a 2024 wrx and yet people call it slow. (12.9 lbs per hp for the wrx and 12.4 for the brz) Better?
I just got the 2024 new wrx tr, the signal stalks in it has been updated and now it stays in position then goes back to middle once done. I had the 2022 wrx and I just hated that signal stalk where it stays in middle, when you change lanes it can be annoying.
So does it have a baffle plate in the oil pan ? If they didn't change anything it will blow up on track eventually.
It's a street car. Anyone tracking this should do a whole host of things before they go that route. I'm sure an aftermarket baffle would do the job better than whatever the corporate beancounters signed off on.
Subaru also sold more because Toyota was marking them up. I could walk into a Subaru dealership and get one at MSRP which I did!
Toyota dealerships are a nightmare, constantly trying to rip you off, so it doesn’t surprise me that BRZ sells more. The dealership experience is a huge reason Subarus are popular.
Hey guys. I tried your truecar link for a porsche and two cars that were listed I asked about they both said the car is no longer available. Meh. Seems to be a scam to try using your link guys. Dealers don’t deal with your referrals. Probably because they don’t want to give a discount. Lame
Send me some screenshots with what happened to Instagram @yuritereshyn and I’ll run it by the truecar team
Feat. Yuri experimenting with edibles
I know not the same class of car but, now you both being people with families…would you take an 86/brz (30k) or civic si (also 30k). Aim is a car that can be satisfying to drive (steering, shifter etc) and also take baby around sometimes. Background I’m at the point in my life where I’ve done my rwd shenanigans and don’t value it as much. Wife has a practical car.
The sti parts catalogue does have a big wing. It's a shame it's not from the factory with it
Gotta have wing. Wing it, Baby!
I noticed yall said there’s no way to fully defeat the traction and stability control. I know that the 22 and 23s of you hold the traction off button, it shuts it all off completely. But for these 24s, it’s a little bit different, I think you have to hold them both down or like, have it in track mode and hold down the traction off button. I’m not sure, I have a 22
Tried all variations
I have own 2024 BRZ S in Australia , where is snow and sports mode between two traction controls??
Pestily music intro kinda mindfacked me.
Thanks for the honest and awesome review
I enjoyed this review better than the throttle house one tbh .
I’m 18 living in the uk. I want to drive a sick manual car so bad, with a notchy gearbox. But until you’re like 23-24 insurance is like 8 grand a year💀
Sounds like it would be cheaper to not have insurance just be careful 😂
"Hey our car has a weak point should we address that? Lol no why would we do that?"
Paying more just to not get a really cool wing is kind of insane to me. What do you get? Gold painted calipers when the limited has the same brakes? If you weren't driving a lower trim would you really be able to tell that the damping tuning is any different? I seriously doubt it.
I’d be careful sending around cliche too hard, might cause oil pickups to go dry and starve the engine (why this hasn’t been fixed yet is beyond believable)
Any painted caliper changes color with heat. Its why real race calipers are anodized. Good cooling helps, so does just being slow on track.
Intro music was 🔥🔥🔥
The brz looks best in white imo
Press and hold the track button to turn everything off.
Uri seemed really unenthusiastic in this video. He seemed tired and like he didn't want to be there. Is he ok?
The BRZ out-sold the GR86 probably because Toyota dealerships are less likely to discount the MSRP. Edmunds prices indicate lower prices for similarly equipped cars from Subaru and Toyota. It's why I got a BRZ tS yesterday instead of a GR86 Premium with Performance Package. Subaru makes less on each car but sells more.
as a gr86 owner with 20000miles. hate the fuel economy. and the cheap shitty spine tingling shocks. other than that i would never sell it. u cant replicate what this car is anymore. while silvias with an sr20 r going from 18k-35k. the twins are our modern day ‘S16’
Not the porsche we want but the Porsche we can afford.
It's got a boxer, so at least that.
Not even close.
Absolutely hated the OEM Torsen differential, had to upgrade to a clutch pack LSD.
All I want to know is when it's check out time, oh no wait, all I want to know is... does the t stand for turbo?
I live in Southern California. Agility it’s something I’m looking for in a vehicle. That’s why I bought a Mazda. 😅
I actually drove pass that LS FRS during the weekend LOL
Caught me soooo off guard
What!! Where
Sounds like they got into an argument right before making the video and it lingered throughout lol
That’s every video -yuri
That’s every video - Jakub
@@TheStraightPipesBe one...with Yuri.
@@fortheloveofnoiseBoris has arrived
I wonder if we’d ever get a T Top / RF BRZ? It might just crush the Miata in sales
I mean, the wheels and mirror caps are just the ones from the gr86, black.
idk im still happy with my 2020 tS its similar, has more cool stuff like red seatbelts and imo better looking seats. Also i love knowing its 1 of 300 instead of 1 of however many. either way they are amazing cars
Did they fix the oil pressure drop problem
next year we get the itS
Great review. Any update when you guys will be reviewing the Bugatti Tourbillion?
Heh never
As a BRZ owner there is absolutely an ALL OFF function for traction. If you press and hold that left side traction button it turns off ALL the nannies.
That's too many letters for that little power. But it does look like a lot of fun to drive which is important. The shifter seems really good. If their are more BRZ's sold than I would opt to get it's twin GR86 if it's the same cost.
Is the 2.4 litre bxr engine reliable?
So now this is just the Performance Package disguised as an STI? Interesting move, I like drifting so for starters the GR 86 is more for me than the base BRZ but with even less drift, yeah, I prefer the 86 :),
But if you Autocross this? This is THE way to go.
Also, to turn Traction Control off you just have to hold the button for like 5 seconds not a single press.
Still to much silicone/sealant getting into the oil intake tube???? If not, I would consider buying one. I can't take a chance until I know 100%!!!!
The RTV hasn’t shown to cause any issues. Oil pressure drop is a separate issue you may only experience on a race track.
I wish they put that infotainment and the hvac buttons in the base WRX vb -_-
I would assume BRZ is outselling 86 because toyota has been notoriously difficult to order with since rona, and is much more likely to add mark ups. With the brz you can easily custom order exactly how you want, and get better financing. Additionally the GR is a couple grand more for seemingly no reason, and personally I like the front fascia of the brz
I like the GR86 facade and Toyota doesn't want to deal.
The RTV issue still has me concerned. Not one mention of it.
It was mentioned
such a tease that the STI logo is in the speedometer screen
How does this 2024 infotainment system look worse than my 2018 brz's infotainment system.
Its funny that this outsold the GR86 in Canada, correct me if I'm wrong but here in the States it is the opposite 🤷
Also the 17+ 4.3 gear directly bolts over..