Yea, I've picked up assassination rogue which is very strong right now, and also benefits from increased burst from the new Supercharger talent without having recieved all the nerfs. Being able to silence with garrote is huge, especially since sub can't reset kick now.
sub rogue burst damage with the changes is crazy, dropping vanish charges for the supercharged symbols is great and getting 12 combo point finishers is crazy giving 2 mil crits, super fun!
So are you doing 12 combo points with Coupe de Grace or are you playing Deathstalker? 🤔 Do you think it's worth losing the ability to reset your Kick cooldown too?
@ZorpoTV I'm playing death stalker, and I'm not worried about losing the kick so much as I can gouge blind kidney or cheap, although that is a good point but I reserve vanish for true oh shit moments xD
Have played assa last time i played WoW at BfA. Now i got used to sub again and it's chaotic in solo, to say at least. Tbh, had nice run yesterday where team actually used brain when i told them to make sure to cc, inter heals when i bring targets health to 30%. Had all 6 kills, felt like real team play. I save Gouge, Blind mostly after my target use trinket so i force heal to trinket also. Then i use shadow realm thing and SB to get a kill.
devestation evoker at s tier is wild. never played on myself but over past 7 days their representation over 2100 is 2% in 2's and 4% in 3s. pretty popular class so I don't think it's could really be that much of a sleeper spec
They easily top the meters applying constant pressure and are incredibly mobile making it difficult for a lot of melee to counter. Their damage right now is ridiculous.
@@ZorpoTV if that were the case you'd think they wouldn't be represented less than shadow priest, affliction lock, demo lock, mm hunter, bm hunter, & ele shaman in every bracket
@pubadubgthreemeninatree8596 well you just named every single other S tier class in the game, and considering this video is talking about the new patch 11.0.5 and not the old patch 11.0, those representations aren't really as relevant now.
@pubadubgthreemeninatree8596 also just because a class is underrespresented by player choice doesn't mean it's not strong or even S rank. Otherwise I would have made a video called "most represented specs in pvp" but that's not what this is.
Love the vids. Little bit of critique The voice-over sounds like getting text to speech script. Hard to listen to. Put some personality in there so to sound less robotic. Keep up the vids 👍
Doing my best this was a lot of content to cover, I did my research and put together a long script. It's a bit exhausting recording 40 minutes of talking! Some of this is after like 5 takes of messing up little tongue twisters. It's exhausting haha. I'm still a bit new to this youtube stuff but I'm learning and doing my best. Thank you for the helpful feedback and thanks for watching!
@ZorpoTV definitely. As someone who has created content as well, understand how hard it is. This is why I left the feedback. You make good content. Practice will help improve this and will get better over time. Just act like you are having a conversation with a friend. Hope the feedback wasn't too harsh. Also helps to break it up into recording batches if need be. Walk away rest your voice and come back
Just wanted to say you sounded fine. Clear and well spoken. Lots of info. Didn't find it hard to listen to at all. Been checking your channel for an update on a trickster build after ER removal. I don't really enjoy sub focused on finishers... I'm an old soul that prefers high ambush dmg
@@RickyDDos I appreciate that bro. thanks for watching! I'm with you on the preference of playstyle. At this point I think the Trickster dream might be dead. They weren't happy with the previous nerfs I guess they had to delete it from the game
I have been playing sub rogue and it's very fun, but I am not skilled enough. What is the opposite of the playstyle - I would love to play something that just consistently deals damage instead of having to rely on super coordination and burst.
You have a lot of other choices! Most ranged classes are pretty versatile, demon hunter is a good alternative to rogue that's very aggressive and good in a melee cleave, you could try assassination or outlaw too. Fury Warrior is one that doesn't use a lot of setup, just good positioning and big damage. If you have any spec that you're curious about, I've gone over them all in the video!
@captainshook19 arms warrior is one of the worst spec in pvp right now, and also heavily reliant on setup with cc and burst. Unlike fury, which is more of just a raw damage dealer, and is in a great spot right now with tuning.
I'm excited to see how the next few weeks play out. But I don't see it competing with the other 2 specs, or other melee classes like feral, monk, assa rogue. Just a bit of an odd outlier, similar to outlaw rogue.
Do you agree or disagree with these rankings? Is there anything big that I missed? Please let me know!
What’s the new burst rotation for sub now that echoing reprimand is removed?
Do you go death stalker mastery now?
@@AWakeSleepY I haven't sorted it out yet but that sounds like what's going to be the best move at this point!
@@ZorpoTV bro I loved echoing reprimand why the fuck did they remove it from the game rogues aren’t even that good
@AWakeSleepY 🤣 I'm not the guy to ask on that one I'm just as confused as the next person
Damage is crazy but we lost the ability to reset kick , kidney , vial , dance , symbols and significantly reduce cooldown of smoke bomb and duel.
Yea, I've picked up assassination rogue which is very strong right now, and also benefits from increased burst from the new Supercharger talent without having recieved all the nerfs. Being able to silence with garrote is huge, especially since sub can't reset kick now.
sub rogue burst damage with the changes is crazy, dropping vanish charges for the supercharged symbols is great and getting 12 combo point finishers is crazy giving 2 mil crits, super fun!
So are you doing 12 combo points with Coupe de Grace or are you playing Deathstalker? 🤔 Do you think it's worth losing the ability to reset your Kick cooldown too?
@ZorpoTV I'm playing death stalker, and I'm not worried about losing the kick so much as I can gouge blind kidney or cheap, although that is a good point but I reserve vanish for true oh shit moments xD
@@Curtis_Plays_yt reset kick was so good bro it's a massive loss 😭
Also, assassination might be pulling ahead heavily in 3v3 because of the other tools sub is losing.
Have played assa last time i played WoW at BfA. Now i got used to sub again and it's chaotic in solo, to say at least.
Tbh, had nice run yesterday where team actually used brain when i told them to make sure to cc, inter heals when i bring targets health to 30%. Had all 6 kills, felt like real team play.
I save Gouge, Blind mostly after my target use trinket so i force heal to trinket also.
Then i use shadow realm thing and SB to get a kill.
Nice!
devestation evoker at s tier is wild. never played on myself but over past 7 days their representation over 2100 is 2% in 2's and 4% in 3s. pretty popular class so I don't think it's could really be that much of a sleeper spec
They easily top the meters applying constant pressure and are incredibly mobile making it difficult for a lot of melee to counter. Their damage right now is ridiculous.
@@ZorpoTV if that were the case you'd think they wouldn't be represented less than shadow priest, affliction lock, demo lock, mm hunter, bm hunter, & ele shaman in every bracket
@pubadubgthreemeninatree8596 well you just named every single other S tier class in the game, and considering this video is talking about the new patch 11.0.5 and not the old patch 11.0, those representations aren't really as relevant now.
@@pubadubgthreemeninatree8596 don't forget you're looking at statistics for what is now an old patch and not the topic of this discussion anymore
@pubadubgthreemeninatree8596 also just because a class is underrespresented by player choice doesn't mean it's not strong or even S rank. Otherwise I would have made a video called "most represented specs in pvp" but that's not what this is.
Love the vids. Little bit of critique
The voice-over sounds like getting text to speech script. Hard to listen to. Put some personality in there so to sound less robotic. Keep up the vids 👍
Doing my best this was a lot of content to cover, I did my research and put together a long script. It's a bit exhausting recording 40 minutes of talking! Some of this is after like 5 takes of messing up little tongue twisters. It's exhausting haha. I'm still a bit new to this youtube stuff but I'm learning and doing my best. Thank you for the helpful feedback and thanks for watching!
@ZorpoTV definitely. As someone who has created content as well, understand how hard it is. This is why I left the feedback. You make good content. Practice will help improve this and will get better over time. Just act like you are having a conversation with a friend. Hope the feedback wasn't too harsh. Also helps to break it up into recording batches if need be. Walk away rest your voice and come back
@Tibone15 you're good man, you're not wrong 😀 thanks again 🍻
Just wanted to say you sounded fine.
Clear and well spoken. Lots of info. Didn't find it hard to listen to at all.
Been checking your channel for an update on a trickster build after ER removal. I don't really enjoy sub focused on finishers... I'm an old soul that prefers high ambush dmg
@@RickyDDos I appreciate that bro. thanks for watching! I'm with you on the preference of playstyle. At this point I think the Trickster dream might be dead. They weren't happy with the previous nerfs I guess they had to delete it from the game
I have been playing sub rogue and it's very fun, but I am not skilled enough. What is the opposite of the playstyle - I would love to play something that just consistently deals damage instead of having to rely on super coordination and burst.
You have a lot of other choices! Most ranged classes are pretty versatile, demon hunter is a good alternative to rogue that's very aggressive and good in a melee cleave, you could try assassination or outlaw too. Fury Warrior is one that doesn't use a lot of setup, just good positioning and big damage.
If you have any spec that you're curious about, I've gone over them all in the video!
Arms warrior or Monk are essentially what you're talking about
@captainshook19 arms warrior is one of the worst spec in pvp right now, and also heavily reliant on setup with cc and burst. Unlike fury, which is more of just a raw damage dealer, and is in a great spot right now with tuning.
Almost all havoc's dmg is chaos
Yea that's one of their downsides against certain specs
Your wrong about SV definitely A tier
I'm excited to see how the next few weeks play out. But I don't see it competing with the other 2 specs, or other melee classes like feral, monk, assa rogue. Just a bit of an odd outlier, similar to outlaw rogue.
Lol this random tierlist 😂😂