I think he is also speaking with anger, and rightfully so. If you think about the "intended usage" of human emotions in the way of what behavior they cause, I think this is the best form of anger. Anger that strongly motivates this man to act on what he knows is important.
If your not angry in the face of revelations, like this What is wrong with you? Anger is part of who we are. we evolved anger for a reason it's because sometimes getting angry and breaking something down is the proper course of action.
Yes. Guy - "We need water!! We need it really bad!!!" People applaud. Nothing's done. Guy - "We need water!! We need it really bad!!! I also looked at the map. Says here there's a water source. I know someone who can do piping. We need funding. I set up a donation page. Please send money. I'll handle the admin issues. Once funding's done, we'll start to build up a piping network. Please help me. I can get the water we need." People applaud. Some people donate. Guy persists in getting funding. Finally, a reliable water supply is procured and people start getting the water they need. . . One person shouts about an issue. Passionately. Another shouts about an issue, passionately AND does things to bring about the changes he wants to see. From what I looked at on the net, the speaker's a good shouter about education.
I just find it so mind-blowing that if you're bad at science or math, people say you're not trying hard enough, but if you're bad at things like art, they'll just say, "Don't worry, it's just not your thing."
I am bad at physics and not interested in it at all but if I learn 4 hours straight that bitch gets in my brain and I kinda understand it but come on!I have to do thia every fucking week,fuck it!
I think it's because it has become fairly common knowledge on how to teach basic science or mathematics to a pretty good level, however most teachers have no idea how to teach the arts, therefore no-one can really help you there.
This guy was actually my teacher in high school he was great cause he was always helpful I’m helping you figure out why you had trouble with the class instead of just giving you excuses
I'm hoping to get a masters in forensics (though not sure what type) and until 4th grade everyone thought I couldn't read... I'm starting my second year of high school soon and last year I was top of my grade so I hope this year will be the same.
That's school. It's trying to break you then make you into a submissive loyal worker for corporation. They don't want you to be too smart to question the system they wanted to be smart enough to only work.
If anything, it's strengthen my want to learn. Learn outside, non-school knowledge that I find interesting. To prove that school has failed us students.
That's me. Nowhere did I find practical learning. All I got to do was rote learning. And my mom was like that's how the education system is, and the companies and universities see grades, so just sync into the system. That's how I hate studying. Its just a test of memory.
Your contradicting yourself "no standardized test" and "best scores in the world consistently" if it were consistently then it would mean they took a test over and over to get these consistent results.
My heart is breaking at the moment. I taught for 25 years. This is all true. Something needs to change, because we are destroying our children and wearing down our teachers. We need to bring back the joy of learning and the individuality and creativity of teaching.
@みさきめい It sickens me. These students will not be prepared for college. Those who choose to go directly into the workforce after high school, will have no understanding of accountability--which is already a problem in our society. They also won't have the necessary skills to deal with failure and competition. To continue with another prevalent problem in education....dishonest administrators continue to create brand new positions for their incompetent friends who should be fired and license revoked. Extremely common. When the new gradecard (new dog and pony show) doesn't improve test scores, who do you suppose will be blamed AGAIN? BLAMING THE TEACHERS IS ONE THING THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE. Every school year, there's a new circus that comes to town, and the teachers are always blamed when the new "trick" doesn't work. Very frustrated with the incompetent, deceitful "leaders".
yes I think the joy of learning is very important, students are told that they have to do certain things because of the syllabus, because it's most likely to get you a job, because it'll make you more balanced for employers etc. and it can be really disillusioning and confusing. I found that I was just learning because I was being told that I have to learn these things, that I have to do certain things to be successful and that what you want to learn isn't important. I lost all my passion and I think it factored into my depression and consequently leaving before my exams. I wish that the focus wasn't on the testing but was instead on what you as a student are going to do, and what you need for that. Lots of respect to you as a teacher, teachers don't get enough for what they do, despite being so hardworking to help and educate your students. Edit: forgot to add that with the way exams work, like the ted talk guy says, a fish whose judged on its ability to climb a tree, won't realise it's true potential for swimming.
Bingo! They forgot that the point is the make useful people. When I was growing up in the late 80s and early 90s I was told that computers were the most important thing we would need for to learn. They literally didn't teach us anything about computers. That was left up to us. Do you need a class called "life skills". Teach somebody how to get an apartment and what tenant insurance and a down payment is all about. What are taxes all about? Teach them to calculate how much you'll actually pay for that car over of the life of the loan with interest. They don't teach things that are hard to put on a written test. That's why we fail. We forgot WHY we test.
Like my old french class. I completed every worksheet in under 5 mins usually and I was told I can't move ahead because i'm too fast. Maybe her work is just too easy.
Actually my school doesn't do that(I live in Europe), I got to do absolutely nothing and get scored maximum while the teacher teaches other kids. To sum it up, they forced me to waste time. That's even worse in my opinion
I had learned how to sum at the age of 5 and I wasn't allowed to see anything else in school, we 'learned' how to multiply in thirth grade(8 years), but I already knew that when I turned 6. Only when i reached highschool (12 years) I started to learn new stuff
One time, I went to quick on a MAPS test. They told me to take it again and so I basically wasted like 40 minutes of my life taking the test again only to get an increase of 10 points which just barely brought me to an average. What a waste of time.
It's 2019. This should really spread to more people, because this is important to shaping the future. Besides, if a few kids hate school, it's normal. But if 95% of students hate school, that should be a pretty clear sign that something is not right.
Copycat97 Jonnuelle I would be surprised if even 1/20 kids actually enjoy school. I mean, there are days which it is not terrible but it doesn’t seem like it could ever being legitimately enjoyable.
I hate school and I’m smart; actually in college everyone sounds dead Nobody wants to speak up when a teacher asks a question and I always chuckle in laughter how lifeless everyone is
I'm a person that loves to learn. But exams spoil the learning experience for me, because it just makes learning stressful. I'm part of the "top 5" in my class, and I hate school. I feel like I'm not learning. All I do is memorize for the exams as much as I can, some without understanding and vomit all the forced fed information on the exam paper.
@@fiddlesticks6146 Yes, most of the things taught in schools are mostly useless. I don't see how learning about the geology of my neighbour country is gonna impact my future job, especially if I forget everything after about 2 weeks.
I started crying when he was talking about the kids with the low test scores who have other life factors affecting their ability to test well. I had a friend who almost committed suicide because the public education system told them they "aren't trying hard enough" and "won't be sucessful" because of how they look on a piece of paper. Even me who is typically a "top 90th percentile" student in most subjects, I end up feeling like I fail if I don't meet that expectation, that my parents won't be as happy, and it grew into full blown depression for my late elementary and middle school years. What use is knowing how to write a perfect essay when you are dead?
Each kid is different and each kid has different needs, but the public education system refuses to realize this and that is why the education system is broken. This is why tutors are in need now more than ever because the teachers are not aloud to interact with their students on a one on one basis during school hours because this horrible system does not allow it
I had almost the exact same experience as you. Schools mostly resemble factory’s more than education. Sparking passion for what the student loves is the most important part. Being a junior in high school I haven’t taken a single physics class yet but I will nerd out for days about space stuff. All that learning was at home mostly on UA-cam. You will do what you love and if you never know what you love then you have nothing to do and hardly anyone wants to do calculus for a living. I’ll probably end up doing a lot of calculus though. I have a friend who thinks a 95% is failing. She hardly gets any sleep and one of these days I swear she’s going to have a breakdown. This education culture is so awful. Now they’re militarizing the schools with metal detectors and mandatory searches because now everyone’s a terrorist. School shootings are terrible but metal detectors won’t stop anything. But that’s a whole other rant.
I have a friend who is cutting because of this system. It needs to change. Even though we have the longest school hours in most of the world, we don't have high achievers. Yes, we do need a big change The edit: I found a typo so I just fixed it, I didn't change anything else
I am an inner city teacher, on the verge of quitting until I heard this. I have a heart for my students but couldn't put my finger why I hated my job until now. I was wrongfully conditioned to believe scores reflected my, and my students success. I completely forgot they are people who don't necessarily express their ambitions through studies. Thank you for saving me from making the biggest mistake of my life.
Catharina Brouwer You should follow your passion no matter what anyone says. I believe in you! Don’t let anyone stop you from achieving your dreams. 💫❤️
THANK YOU!!! Someone agrees! I have a parent that’s a college level, high school chemistry teacher. I love them, but whenever I ask that question they ALWAYS changes and avoids answering in all possible ways. I want to be a video editor. I want to take a film class next year but CAN’T because I “have” to take a math and science class. It makes no sense
He was my Algebra 2 teacher and he has been my favorite since then, he actually listens to his students and even now that I've graduated , I still turn to him in times of confusion with my education.
no wonder why he died alone and divorced without lefting no one to heir his pasion but only to say oh cool he no lifed studying for 50 years to barely make into the average citizen life
I was always told that I was smart, yet my grades don't show that. They're riddled with C's, D's, and F's. Yet for some reason I can out think many people and come up with solutions faster, get around obstacles, and even get a win for a group project if I know what I'm doing. I contain random information in my head that at first glance seems irrelevant but then turns out to help in some situation... and yet, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be a college dropout by the end of the year. And I've always been told that if I drop out, I'm not going to do anything worthwhile. And I can actually afford a textbook. Seeing kids who are worlds smarter than me get treated like they're not worth help makes me realize that the "No Child Left Behind" was just a marketing strategy.
The best experience I ever had as a teacher was when I was hired by a homeschool group to play Dungeons & Dragons with a small bunch of 9-12 yr old boys. When we started out, the kids had little interest in reading or math. By week 2 they had read through the rulebooks, and were discussing things like bell curves. Math and reading scores skyrocketed. On top of that, they started to develop interpersonal skills, with brothers who usually fought communicating and becoming protective of each other.. And they developed problem-solving skills. So yeah, teaching needs to be relevant. Find what gets the kids motivated and RUN with that. But if the schools are just "teaching to the tests" they can't do that..
Exactly why I homeschooled my son. By the time he turned 18 he was doing college level classes. He had/has good self esteem, he can do his own taxes and balance a check book. He understands how to invest his money. He was/is also physically fit enough to join the military and breeze through the training. He is creative and artistic which is something he still enjoys today. The military has paid for his college education so he doesn’t have any student loan debt. And on top of all that I made sure he knew how to use tools and do electrical work (I’m an electrician). And home schooling wasn’t as difficult as one would think it would be. It was rather enjoyable and I ended up learning some things as well lol.
Prepperjon that’s a really smart move, I’m still in school and when my dad helps me I really start to feel comfortable while learning and I can also express how proud I am when I solve a problem that’s difficult for me myself! :)
I couldn't agree with this more. I'm an AP/Honors student so my classes are predominantly with higher achieving students, and it seems as if everyone is more worried about GPA and SAT scores than actually learning.
Man that's true I'm a sophomore and took my first AP class the girl I sit next is really nice but I just want to give her a hug she is so hard on herself academically because it helps her do better Which school is important but you shouldn't hurt yourself over it
My freshman year into Mr. Katz class he called us his experiment. At first I thought who is this guy, my first day in his class and we were his "experiment". What I didn't realize was that he was one of the most understanding teachers I did have. Even after failing a test, we were given the chance to pick up our grades just by explaining why we got each problem wrong (of course it was a lot of work, but boy was it genius) I was thankful for this because not only did I learn from my mistakes but I realized is that practice helps. Meaning if I did all my homework, Id do better on test, but only because I got my practice in. Thank you Mr. Katz for not just being a teacher and giving your students a grade.. but for going above and beyond and wanting your students to learn. Because that's all that matters. I hope your voice is heard. I am now a high school graduate and till this day my favorite math teacher would have to be the famous Mr. Katz
He is one of the rarities then. Rarely has a war ever been fought if the one who led the way was not able to inspire others to pick up their blades to do what was asked of them because they were inspired and motivated to do what they believed to be the right thing.
The biggest problem with the school system is that we punish by lowering their quality of life. Didn't get good grades? Go to the neighborhood school where bullying is common and the quality is poor. Forgot your book? Markes down your grades, and no, you can't get it from your locker to actually learn. Students shouldn't be competing for a good school because school is a _service_ , not a job. You don't compete to which restaurant you go to eat at. The service competes for your payment. Problem is, you pay for the service before you get to choose what you want, so there is no need for schools to be high quality other than to bait middle schoolers into paying for extracurricular services to _maybe_ get into a good highschool.
You make a great case on this. Furthermore, the ones who don't obtain good grades are not always the unruly troublemakers or intellectually challenged. They may quietly have internal struggles with mental health or bullying, are socially challenged, excel in subjects that are not apart of the standard curriculum, or are just non-conventional to the methods of the school system by design rather then by choice.
@@yurishaa.9337 I should probably consider that testimonial. Not to mention, other oddballs or outliers also tend to have neurological differences that conflict with the personal views of education in modern schooling, like those with Autism or ADHD. American media usually likes to repetitiously generalize challenges with academics in regards to race and socioeconomic status. That cliche always rubs me the wrong way because the nature of the situation isn't exclusively to just race and class but about the whole ritualistic tradition of specific ideologies towards intelligence being passed down for centuries.
It's easy to tell how personally invested he is in the subject based on the passion he had when speaking. He's the type of person that knows what needs to be done and has a better view of what's important because he sees it every day
Yeah, it did, but...it's a faulty argument that relies more on "heart" than economic facts. He talks about "rooting out corruption" in a system of education that literally thrives on the use of force to exist. How're you supposed to make that ethical? It's a product we have no choice but to buy, whether we choose private education for our kids or not. How is *that* institution going to say, with a straight face, "Violence begets more violence."? Or "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."? Without being a walking contradiction? Taxes are fine, they're membership of a club and come included with the benefits of the club, but we should *avoid* taxation that directly violates human rights; by forcing us to buy a product---textbooks, desks, curriculum, reading lists, PSA's, etc.---whether we want or need the product or not. That's how you avoid enshrining corporatism in law.
Wolfferoni As someone who goes to his school and converses with him from time to time (he would go into our Calculus class and have discussions with our teacher and class about the education system). I can tell you that he still has strong belief that the system will change eventually and that it is a matter of the people to continuously voice their complaints to advocate this change. It's disappointing how the entire system is being based around trying to get that grade instead of learning the subject matter. Everyone at the schools are sick of it, apart from the administration and hierarchy of course. He's a great person and an excellent teacher, based off of others experiences and those few conversations I was in.
I know. I am a teacher assistant and I refuse to get certified because I hate this system. I work at a Montessori school but we cant do Montessori work because we. have to do CKLA and Eureka Math. Its so bad when I was the same with my kids, before I realized what I was doing. Mad at my son because he cant focus (2nd grade who thinks school is boring except lunch, recess, and PE) and my daughter who is in honors class but is stress because she only has a 93 in honors pre calculus.
I personally have him this year. I actually transferred to his class from AP Statistics in order to have easier work for more free time for learning. Even with online school, Katz goes far beyond any other teacher out of all the teachers in my entire formal school education. There is an endless list of everything he has done, is doing, and plans on doing for us. And while I may know all the math already, he still manages to teach me something or challenge me everyday. And it is true lots of the students are extremely behind in the academic curve, I see it and experience it every day. He is there for them. Phenomenal teacher, life coach, and person.
Nope, the favorite teacher is the teacher who plays the game of new learning strategies and standards. Then, if the teacher is good enough with his poney show he may leave the classroom and becomes an administrator or an academic coach.
He didn't stutter once, he didn't miss a beat. This dude is remarkably talented, and he spoke such revolutionary words. One day I will spawn a child. But that day will not come until this man's message has been enacted.
I still wouldn't spawn a child even if this message has been enacted. No one should come to this world just so they can try hard to survive after and suffer for the likes of any one else (parents who brought them here w/o their consent) whereas they never needed to if they never existed. Parents should comply to the professional rules of moral conduct, just like any other licensed profession does. Well, actually, forget that, I am more in favor of humanity terminating itself. There really is no good reason to birth a child except for the impulsive selfiness deep within everyone.
@@katelyn1782 "There really is no good reason to birth a child except for the impulsive selfishness deep within everyone" - How about loving somebody and wanting to create a life with them? Of course I'm talking about love, not merely lust, which is why we have a lot of children being brought up in broken homes with parents with no maternal/paternal instincts. I do think more people should think seriously before they have children though.
@GTS Well, because there's also beauty and meaning in the world as well. If two people really love each other and recognize and accept the responsibilities implicit in becoming a parent, they're going to love and support that child and the child is going to more than likely have a net positive effect on the world. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everybody should have 8+ kids, humans are currently reproducing at a rate that really isn't sustainable for our environment/food supply in the short term and things will get dangerously thin in a few decades, but there's nothing wrong with having a modest sized family for the right reasons.
That's why there needs to be a popular, grassroots movement spurred from students, teachers, educators, administrators etc. to get proper change. Similar to those teachers in Kentucky who protested en masse. It only takes a few passionate people to cause change that will help millions of future generations.
well what do you expect? He seems to think merely wanting to open a business is enough!! You need a lot of education to run a business, and merely wanting to be the business owner but you can't do math and accounting, and lack something required to learn these skills, you are headed for disaster.
What he said about art subjects is entirely true. I've been heading towards an artistic field of work all of my life, I've talked with professionals and was shown possibilities and jobs revolving around art. School, on the other hand, has completely removed art, music and theatre as subjects. They don't exist. In my school, they just don't exist anymore, and the tragically ironic thing is that I live in Greece, a country famous for it's ancient history. So, in the ancient educational system in Greece, art was as important as mathematics because it was considered food for psychological intelligence. In today's time, we praise and admire the mental state of these ancient people and tell ourselves we should be proud of our ancestors, while completely ignoring their notions and discoveries. Instead we are too busy learning ancient Greek like it's being spoken outside.
I descend from all of Europe, I can definitely understand the diasporic view you have on Ancient Greeks because it's even weird talking about any part of Europe when I don't know it.
For my school, art and music are there, but not much is put into some of those subjects. For elementary, if you doodled in class, you where told, "This isnt art class, now put the paper away and pay more attention!" While in art class, it was rare we actually got the chance to draw freely. We just where forced to make art projects and since i was one of the best and only good artists is my class, i guess my art teacher "expected much" of me, so she was extra harsh, and would shout at me, if the body was short and the head was a bit big, even on a sketch. For 5th grade, we got to make yearbook designs 4th graders would vote on. We had to do it. We couldnt use much creativity due to there being a theme we HAD to use, and if we didnt do one, we got an awful grade in art. My art teacher said before we started making them; "If you refuse to make one, you will get a bad grade. Your parents will call me asking, "Why did my child get a bad grade?" Well, it was because they didnt do a yearbook design!" So even if you where a gifted artist, it wouldnt matter if you poured your heart and soul in it. It only mattered if you did it. And like he said, it made us less creative over time.
art and music were both subjects we had in my school. art was, to be fair, rather good, but to most people it'd be completely useless and they'd have not went to the class if it was by choice. music, on the other hand, hardly taught anything. it was more ''hit stuff and make music with your classmates'' than actual information. earrape followed. theatre was never there in the first place, i don't believe, which i was quite upset about. i may have anxiety but i'm actually good on a stage, i find it fun, being another person, living a different life, the like. i have a great memory too, so remembering lines is easy for me.
interesting comment. if you look around the world, failed goverments are focussing on dead language like its the grand solution. if dead languages were worthy study here in the uk we'd be speaking yea olde english - wouldnt that be fun for everyone? as soon as your electeds start pushing dead languages its time for young people to run for public office and get things back on track. being 40+ does mean you have a decent brain, always remember that
i am a fan of learning languages, just not useless, dead ones. while its helpful to understand origin of a language, beyond that ... everyone in the world should learn sign as it would be the only truly global/ inclusive language - how cool would that be?
You want to make sure students are getting enough sleep? Stop allowing teachers to give 2-4 hrs of homework per day per class. Especially when you have 6 classes and homework for almost every class.
I've seen many teachers complain that they don't really enjoy grading HW. They do it not because they like it, but because they are required by the schools. Teachers are Human too
A disciplined student with a solid base of understanding of the world could certainly learn a fuckton with the interweb. But how many young people does that describe? A small minority most likely. The majority.of students would be better off.guided by a great teacher than wandering on their own....at least, until they are disciplined and have a solid base of understanding from which to wander.
Neutron X by disciplined I mean intellectually disciplined which is directly related to having a solid base of understanding of the world. An intellectually disciplined.person doesn't latch on to the 1st thing they hear but analyzes all opinions on an issue before reaching any conclusions. This will prevent people from being easily manipulated and lied to. People who watch alex jones or fox news lack this solid understanding of the world which is why they are so easily lied to. A solid base of understanding occurs after a person runs through a few basic surveys of human history....and gets a sense of general tendencies.
I am assuming you are a student who has heard this, and there is truth to it. I began teaching before cell phones and before smart phones, and only having a student's attention 10% to 25% of the time, if that, has made it impossible for them to learn anything that requires real concentration and depth.
Me: I've been drawing all my life and I truly aspire to become an artist School: do you know how to do this overly complicated algebra equation? Me: no?... School: guess you can't be an artist then
Turn the equation to a drawing, show the solution graphically, understand the idea. After that it is only to scale the numbers correct. Or you can continue to wonder about the numbers and signs in the formula and keep failing. In Finland we focus on creative problem solving rather than memorazing a lot of stuff. You can't learn everything, but you can learn to adapt your knowledge in new situations and get the route to the solution using knowledge close to your intrests that you'll remember. It's not that hard, once you figure out the path of learning that suits your profile. Also looking cross subjects helps understanding phenomena. Biology can include math and chemisty, sports can mix with physics or biology, art and history is a good mix. Finding the link between subjects can be the missing 💡 that reveals the understanding. What you memorize for a test will be forgotten, what you learn to improve youself, you'll remember 30 years later. It's all about understanding how to learn for life, and get the motivation to link it to your personal intrests. After all, you study for YOUR future, not for scoring well on a specific test. Btw, I'm not a teacher.
Our current public school system is simply teaching kids well into their college years how to remember and regurgitate information on a test without retaining anything.
This is so true, if you ask me what my last test was about I have no idea I remember it for the test then I forget it since most of it I won’t even use once I’m out of school
This is a big part of his point... but it's due to the fact that corporations (Pearson, et al) who are raking in government money hand over fist have bought enough influence with lawmakers to legislate that schools use this model.
You go to school to learn school. Our children are being trained and not educated. The system is designed for students to get jobs. They need tools right now. Don't tell me what to think. Show me how to think. The world is changing at a rapid pace. Schools have not kept with the times. The time is now.
That's why there needs to be a popular, grassroots movement spurred from students, teachers, educators, administrators etc. to get proper change. Similar to those teachers in Kentucky who protested en masse. It only takes a few passionate people to cause change that will help millions of future generations.
School isn't designed for students to get jobs; it's designed to get them to go to college. Only about 1/4 jobs require a college degree, so what are we supposed to do with the other 3/4?
This guy knows exactly what he is talking about. I'm only a 6th grade student and I have noticed this problem throughout my entire education. School has been transformed from a place of learning to a place of manipulation, control, and profit. What really sucks is that this video, this speech was given four years ago and, at least where I live, nothing has changed. We as people need to take this guy's wise words and spread his message, or nothing will ever change. This is no way to educate people, if it is meant to control them for profit.
This comment reminds me of myself at 6th grade, me currently being a 9th grader (freshman at highschool), and it makes me wonder how many students would genuinely agree if every one of them was shown this video. Keep on going, keep on going.
I graduated 7 years ago and I can agree with all of this. There's just so much WRONG. So much pressure put on everyone. I may be out of school, but for the first few years after I was out, I had recurring nightmares about the place and when I went with my mom to pick up one of my younger brothers from the high school we went to, I very much almost had a panic attack because the place itself brought me so much anxiety. And that's actually a vast IMPROVEMENT from before I graduated, too. School shouldn't ever have to be this. We're meant to go there to learn, to grow. It shouldn't have to be something so stressful we want to avoid it. It shouldn't be a place that's so unbearable that it leaves mental scars that stay with you.
Good luck being an inventor if you can't pass Algebra. The reason why we have Education the way it is, is because to do anything of worth in society you must be educated to a certain minimum standard. You want be an inventor? Learn the foundations of invention, which is in a large part mathematics!
@@jordancork5355 Except they make it boring and meaningless af so you develop a hate towards algebra? When did learning algebra ever utilize real world problems. Focusing on concepts (which school maths is altogether because it lives only in some made up mathematical problems) makes you hate anything that has to do in reality, and that's why there's so many depressed students today. They learn concepts, not solving real world problems and things that actually make any sense for them.
School: You need to get at least 10 hours of sleep each day. Also School: Okay here is another 40 bajillion hours of homework that you need to finish tomorrow.
I never understood homework. My math teacher does all exercises in class, where she can personally see what are every student’s weak and strong points, and improve from there. As a result, even the “bad students” of hers aren’t failing math.
My teacher said if u have to do more than 30 min of homework a day either you didn't fokus in school or you have to much homework cuz free time is important. I loved that teacher
Something that online schooling has made me realise is that if there is nothing forcing you to do the work, it’s not going to get done. And that’s not a problem with me or my parents or even the teachers. It’s the system. My state in Australia has just let schools back and I’ve done more work at school than I did in the last half of my online schooling. I don’t have any motivation to do work at home because I don’t see a point. I wanted to be a game dev 6 months ago. But now that I have been told that in year 12 I will have to do over an hour of homework/studying for every period for 25 periods a week and that I might have to cut back on hobbies because of it. I just feel like it’s more work than it’s worth.
I've got to say.. This man is quite a phenomenal speaker. He not only hit every point of the truth, but also delivered with such a powerful impact. It's quite a shame that greed is such a powerful sin with such a devastating impact..
the only thing you should be feeling in school that is of relevance is "getting smarter". Everything else is irrelevant, stop being so self-centered you whiny brats. My head hurts when i see the number of future socialists in here, incapable of performing and always complaining about their safe spaces. If school makes you feel like killing yourself, do us all a favor and listen to your heart.
I failed alot of my subjects at high school including maths but in my free time, I programmed computer games at the age of 12. I was told I needed to be good at maths to write software (It's a lie). Even though I failed alot of high school, i'm now a successful 6 figures in the bank software programmer.
@@rayexception4590 I thought this was the case my whole life which is why I didn’t study compsci since I struggle with math. I think I’m gonna self learn programming.
@@rayexception4590 Would it make you feel better, if people said you need to be good at language to write software? Math is about structure & systematic organization, which are the cornerstone of good programming, excluding spaghetti code! So, when people say you need to be good at Math for coding, what they mean is mathematical thinking, which is a form of problem-solving!
WHAT?! I was always dissuaded from doing programming for that very reason. I’m TERRIBLE at math. Nobody has ever corrected me or told me it was a lie. Including people who work in it
Same. Even the teacher who loved to learn didn't really care, only my history and pe teacher cared. And it felt so nice that someone actually likes me despite me being quite and not bullying me
There are actually a lot of teachers out there like him. However, when one of the teachers in our district spoke about these types of things during the public forum of a Board of Ed meeting, she was fired ... ahem... "not rehired" is the official phrase.
School system sucks, they literally base someone in their abilities and personality. I remember back in Kindergarten, I was supposed to be in 1st Grade but then I got held back and repeated Kindergarten again (even though I graduated Kindergarten already) because they said I was smart and all but I'm way too "quiet" *smh*
A lot it is miserable people who pray on children. Think of someone who spent their entire lives in school and college it must have been miserable and then to get a job as a kindergarten teacher with measly pay. The society is honestly as miserable as it can get and we wonder why so many people are jaded and commit suicide or become homicidal.
getting picked on or insulted will last the rest of your life? if someone has such serious problems with their self esteem or emotions, they're probably not fit for society.
it can if its not addressed. See.. why do you feel the need to degrade anybody in particular at all? its the idea that we can just give up on people-even if they're mentally handicapped- this idea... is the source of the vice we have in society- the emotional internalizing. Why do you think america thrived when christian values alone were allowed to flourish in the home? We're talking about the foundations of society... "If someone has such serious problems" then "that society" is not fit for them. Also why multiculturalism doesn't work btw.
Grant OBrien So, taking your argument to it's logical conclusion, if you're not fit for society because you're not strong enough to defend yourself from being bullied, both physically and mentally, then you're not even fit for existence and should just drop dead for the sake of society? (Bleep) that definition of Darwinian eugenic society!
Wow. Thank you. Thank you. I thought I was alone. I simply could not take the hypocrisy, so I left my teaching job of 27 years. You really nailed it all in this speech. Thank you again. If I never hear the word rigor and accountability again, it will be too soon.
I've seen the result of american education in the last 20-30 years. People who are directly responsible for that(teachers) should have NO more say in education, their fiasco is costing US and the free world a lot. I understand those terms(rigor/accountability) can be used in a way to force teachers into ideological submission and i don't condone that. However, teachers(generally, i know there are exceptions) should just look at the generations they helped create and, at the very least, resign in shame. ", 2) jump through four years of hoops to become a clear-credentialed teacher" Oh, poor you :)) I've jumped through hoops for more than 15 years now for my job, even though i have such great experience i don't let a day go by without bettering myself and investing in education. If you consider 4 years of learning some sort of big sacrifice, you have already proven my point. Really, how do you ever get things done as teachers? I mean, you only have 1/3 of year PAID VACATION, when are you going to better yourselves? :))
It was only TWO years for me - - Although I might have lasted as long as 10 years as a teacher, if I had not lived in California at the time. Just an example of the dumbing down of America. And it works from the top down - - meaning the universities where teachers get their teaching degrees. The goal of most students at places like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and other universities, is to prove how smart they are to their professors by parroting every word which escapes their mouths, and demonstrate it in each and every so-called academic study or paper which they author. All they want is a certificate proving how "smart" they are. I say it's too little, too late. Such students have become indoctrinated for life.
Agreed, learning can be fun but school shoves everyone into the same box to “learn” things some people’s brains can’t comprehend well, for example give me a math equation and I can solve but put me in art class and I’ll fail, whereas my friend is the exact opposite from me put her in art class and she’ll pass with flying colors but give her math and she gets very frustrated, classes should be able to be chosen by students who want to do them and have fun doing them
Yep. To be honest, I’m in high school, and I don’t care what I remember from this year as long as I can keep my grades up. And homework. I don’t know a single person that doesn’t hate homework.
pizza for breakfast yeh like the reason we go home is to having a bloody break from work but no they think HOMEwork is helpful. It just makes me nervous to hand in...
I'm surprise he still has a job. A teacher speaks like that now a days and he gets..."pull in for questioning" and ostracized by peers and administration.
Lol I don’t think the school could afford to let him go. I’m a previous student of his (2009) and I’ll tell you honestly, Mr. Katz is to this day still one of the BEST teachers I’ve ever witnessed in my life.
@@Peach721 It doesn't matter to the schools. Now a days very few admins rather keep a good teacher and they prefer the obedient ones. Take for example AP classes. Passing rates for the classes are 3-4 times higher that the test passing rates. Meaning kids just get passed anyways, and teachers who are more strict to prepare the students better simply get switched out. I hope he keeps his post for as long as he wants.
John Shepard as of right now he’s still in the same position at the same school. A family friend of ours works in the same school and has recently told me that he still teaches there :)
Are you kidding, or that out of touch? Every teacher I know will happily tell you how terrible the standardized testing craze, Pearson and all that nonsense is.
What we need to actually learn: *How to pay taxes, Applying for college, Surviving in the wild, Surviving in society* Schools: Calcite reacts to Hydrochloric Acid
That is not what we need to teach, we need to teach the already standing subjects but make them to standing lessons, in germany as in every 1st world country, you learn to get good grades, but this should not be the case, we should learn for the sake of learning new things, i had a math teacher, that only taught the subject for the sake of getting the best preparation on the test...well more the 1/3 of us failed the test. On the other hand i had a history teacher who was engaged in his subject, he loved it, and he taught it that way, and look at that only one guy failed the test. Look at me now, going to university studying History and Politics.
how school works 1. Wake up *EARLY* 2. Get ready 3. Go to school for 8 hours and get _"Taught"_ useless information you'll forget by the next week 4. Take tests and regurgitate the useless information 5. Go home 6. Regurgitate MORE useless information 7. Go to bed *REPEAT FOR 12+ YEARS*
0x00FF00 Well, from the sounds of this, their exams and tests replace assignments (e.g. Writing a narrative, recording a documentary, building a stable structure,etc) so they aren't ever told or inspired to apply the information, rather, they just memorise it through long, boring and headache inducing nights, then fill out a test sheet. This means that they can't see any reason to apply the information, unless it sparks their interest or something outside of school requires them to use it.
Then that's your fault for not practising. You can't blame them for your shortcomings, considering they have to teach this to hundreds of other kids who have a varying ability for mathematics. Teach yourself if you really want to know something.
My parents want me to get all A's in every subject, and I complain when I have a B+ or two, when everyone else is so happy when they finally get a B or B-. So I freak out when I'm confused or don't know the subject, and worry that the grade on one paper will ruin my grade for that class. I just feel stressed out for that one thing itself, and then I live a demanding sport (swimming) and do other sports as well, were I should be one of the best people there. I never feel like I am. Because others gave me standards, I made standards of my own for myself. And I feel like no matter how hard I try, I still won't make it, and see myself as one of the WORST people there. I know this REALLY of topic, but I needed this off my chest. Sorry.
I'm sorry to hear that and I feel that I can relate to you. Please be care ful and take care of yourself, because what you said sounds like burn out. Stay strong, buddy!
The problem is that when you eventually start feeling that you will never be good enough you stop trying because you can never really impressed other people. It sounds likely that your parents are doing this with the best of intentions because they love you and want you to do well in life, but it can give you anxiety and erode your confidence for the working world. Perhaps when you leave school it would be good to consider a gap year where you can experience some different kinds of life skills and take the time to find out what is important to you. Best of luck
One of the problems of this world is how highly we hold the acceptance of others. We must all learn to be happy by giving everything our all and being satisfied with that, our best efforts, not what others decide is good enough. And at the end of the day, what's most important is how we talk to ourselves, not how others talk to us. The system is messed up, do not trust it. We all have to work alongside it, but do not trust it as an indication of self worth or true intelligence or ability.
I feel the exact same way. I just don't want to let anyone down. It's that feeling of oppression when everyone looks up to you and you're scared of letting them down. When you get an A+ people would be expecting you to keep getting A+. If you get B or so, people generally won't say anything, but you can feel their disappointment. It's like they're silently demanding you to meet their expectations. You feel like you need to keep up with the standards others have set for you. And the standards you've set for yourself. That's how I feel, anyway. Maybe it's not them that's demanding anything. Maybe it's myself.
The real problem with education in North America is that failure is what is used to motivate students to learn, as opposed to learning for the sake of learning. At the end of the day students are taught to care only about what letter they see on their test paper and therefore have no real desire to learn anything new. If the education system was structured in a way that allowed students to learn without threatening them with failure, then students would actually have a thirst for knowledge and a desire to learn, making school seem like less of a burden.
OK, so please give us just 1 example, anywhere in the world, where students have such high levels of intrinsic motivation that they're willing to do their best & fully apply themselves without any threat of failure! Anyone who says this has absolutely no clue re: human psychology! Sorry, I actually wish you were right, but that's just not how us lazy selfish humans evolved! You should read up on human motivation theory to know more detail.
Modern education in a nutshell Student : *fails* School : • This student has a learning disability •This student won't be successful in the future • This student isn't trying hard enough I mean, no wonder anxiety nowadays is so common. The place where you are supposed to learn, gives you a 'failure' label and tells the parents that the child isn't trying hard enough. Have people actually thought about how the child actually tries so hard but fails regardless.
Ivan it sucks because there are teachers that when you fail a subject in school will try to understand why you failed and help you succeed next time. But those teachers don’t come very often because that’s not always what they have been told to do.
The best one I got was why are you so good in that subject but not this one, urmm because I like that subject, well try harder other wise you fail, I don't care if I fail this class as long as I pass the one I like, well you wont get a job without this class. two classes I am talking about English and physical education, I loved P.E. got a B+ and soon as I left school the teacher was right I couldn't get a job, I had to go to college just to improve my English grade before I could get a job and when you get to that job you don't need the English that they teach you to pass an exam its literally can you speak English and can you write, not once was I pulled up for my punctuation or my grammar in a physical education job. The entire system is broken in every country not just America.
Also, we are forced to learn so much just to forget it next year. It becomes a chore and it just becomes a "work that needs to be done". We have no time for our own interests and for our own lives in general.
It's a clever model as old as time. The system is what is broken and sick. Look at American society and how sick it is, but it upholds itself as infallible. It's just a facade and it's no shock that the ones who sit at the top take all the profit for themselves and do nothing to improve the misery it causes everyone. It's just a way for corruption to prosper and for profit to made in convincing normal people to think that they are broken and need to spend money on more useless solutions to made up problems.
what the hell....why does this video have so very little views when its been up for over a year now. and the room is so empty too! UA-cam shouuld place this video on their homepage in education section. it's vitally important for the future of the states.
God is this relatable. I’m getting tested for ADHD tomorrow, and I was diagnosed with severe depression, and a general anxiety disorder last year. I’ve been struggling with those issues for my whole life, and ultimately it’s not down to anyone- it’s simply who I am and the context I live in colliding with each other. My whole family is filled with talented, intelligent people- my parents both got graduate degrees at prestigious colleges, and my dad has a PhD. All of my immediate family are professionals, working extremely hard- good for them, but this meant I had no model of a successful outsider. I grew up believing that not only did I need college to live a life where I wouldn’t panic about affording something better to eat than beans and rice, but also believing I would enjoy college. That it would be the place where I could fully become the person I’m dying to be. After three years wasting money, getting steadily less and less willing to even live, I decided to do something else. I started to notice that even the people who wanted to be professionals, were dreading the day that they graduate. They were all sticking to something that made them hate themselves and treat others poorly for temporary relief. There were obviously many many others that loved their time in college- but among the people I knew, they only continued in the hope things would magically work out. Like they’d been double dog dared to quit, and no way they’d let themselves do that. I got treatment and dropped out of school last year. All this focus on succeeding like I’m told, has squashed the potential I’ve had in so many others areas. I didn’t paint for five years, I was too stressed to even think about art as something I wouldn’t fail at- even though it’s the only thing I consistently succeed in. I alienated myself from myself in order to be a smidge calmer about how little I wanted to go to school. I stopped myself from being friends with people who weren’t ‘college worthy’ so I wouldn’t catch their ‘failure.’ I grit my teeth through classes where I was bullied by teachers. I suffered through so many classes where I was told I’m worthless for not passing. I stuck with friends who defined me as the person they couldn’t be if they wanted to live a stable, happy life. For years, I convinced myself the only time where I felt respected and fulfilled was when I stuck to a 16 hour schedule of languages, classes, reading, and chores. I didn’t last a month, and being so young, I took that to mean I was never going to have stability and comfort in life. All of this impacted me to my core, and made me the person who I am. But the negatives of it all continue to inform thought patterns that stop me from pursuing what I know I actually want to do. And I’m a lucky one- there’s so many millions of kids who internalize the messages society, parents, peers give them, and don’t discover a new path until decades later. It’s truly shameful what we do to kids in America. We wring them dry and leave them little to find joy in. Then we continue telling them they’re doing something wrong, and if they just tried ‘this’ instead they’d be better off. Eventually people turn to whatever will just help them get through a day- addictions, drugs, working too hard, abusing and manipulating others. And we act like none of us had a part in any that. Here’s a question: how many people reading this have stood by silently while someone’s been abused? How many times have we given advice that didn’t even help us? How many times in the past year have you assumed homeless persons are just failures, worthless, not even worth a quick hello even if it means uncomfortably denying them charity. These all connect together subtly. We build a context where there is NO way to live lives according to our own definitions of success. Then we adopt society’s version as our own, and wonder what happened to all those passions we used to have. Some of us leave to another place, another country, to build a new life somewhere that might be a different kind of damaging. But for most of us we just have to struggle through and live our lives on American terms, and try to make it our own. Often we don’t recognize it, because to focus on our own long term happiness for once, would be selfish or irresponsible. And that’s the least of it if you have real tangible commitments and responsibilities. Nonetheless it’s admirable that we’ve all gone through something like this, and continued to try making it work for us. Maybe that’s a sign something will change for the better. The truth is, the society were building at the top, is completely mismatched from the reality those without power live with. We’re all told this story about an abstract version of ourselves, a person that would exist if we just did we were told. But it doesn’t make practical sense for most of us because it’s divorced from who we actually are and want to be.
I remember I finished highschool at age of 24 yrs this year after 8 year struggle of high school life .thank God am not dead because others told me if they were pinned in my shoes they would have died by drug overdose or poisoning due to academic pressure 😔😔 thanks for listening to my message from 🇰🇪
@@salmyrle1920 Thank you very much, and thats an excellent, refreshing take on empathy and autopilot. Sometimes things get to a breaking point, and its a real shame that its almost better for that breaking point to happen sooner rather than later. I hope that your experience (and your upcoming grad degree) will help you find something more tolerable in the near future. Ten years in education takes a dumptruck load of courage and compassion, those skills are rare and hard to learn.
My school has a home ec class and almost everyone in my school want to take it and it’s most kids favorite class because we learn to cook and to do taxes and how to manage time and money, and both girls and boys do it
@@alexandrafol Gosh home economics, and wood crafting classes would be great. Students these days don't get to learn by doing and expirience , it's all books books books. I think that's why these days mostly women finish college, because the books books books system fits their way of quick thinking better, than hands-on work.
yeah. Pearson: Hi you just brought 200 dollars textbook but in order to do your homework please pay extra 200 for the access code that will only last few weeks
I literally broke down into tears one time during my freshman year because I couldn’t remember any of the math on a quiz because I didn’t understand it.
Im in 6th grade (again) and whenever i saw a math test or any test besides history i just teared up. Yes im a bad student but im still so afraid of being a failure
@@serpentzachary1340 it determines what job we get. The world only cares about qualifications not passion. Sometimes I'm not sure if my life is even worth living
I’ve had one, my Bio teacher, and let me say, I never loved science and now it is one of the most amazing and intriguing subjects to me. Prior to that class, I didn’t like science really, nor did I think I’d ever find a teacher who understood what it meant to be a student like myself, a straight-A. She saw right through and read my anxiety as though it was a book she had devoured times before. Some teachers can change your life.
I'm 2.5 minutes into this video and I feel myself getting glassy-eyed. You can tell this guy has seen this system and culture fail so many students with potential and he is passed the point of frustration. He is genuinely passionate about this topic.
school should just teach kids independently, based on their talent, for some school is too easy, while for some its too hard, but most kids probably will never even use the stuff they were taught, and some might
That would take an insane amount of money, unfortunately. People won't pay for that kind of education because they are still stuck in the industrial age where they believe education can be modeled after the assembly line! :(
@@evecastle538 Deficit spending. If the people demand funding, the money won't the problem, the amount of teachers available will be the problem with this.
Montessori does that, but people don't like it because they don't seat at desks and can dress however they want and they choose their subjects.... Montessori kids, at 4, can dress themselves up, help with small house tasks, at 6 they can help cook, even handle childproof knives, imagine what they can do at 15, 20, 30, 40...
I think we should be taught the basics in like English, math, science, etc. But we should not be forced into the advanced stuff of things we don’t like. I disagree that their education should be based on their talent. What happens when say they are really good at art, but want to be a musician but is not great at making music yet? And it takes to much time to teach every child independently. We’d have to have an insane amount of teachers to do that.
Everybody who points out that its been four years since this was posted and nothing has improved, I would like to point out that John Holt wrote in the mid 60s that we needed much less standardized testing and that students rarely remembered or could apply what little they may have learned. These problems are much older than 4 years.
Rudolf Steiner, over 100 years ago, wrote that unless we educate the mind, the feelings and the will (head, heart and hands) were are just making students numb and apathetic.
That's how much power the big money corporations wield. Now, it's become about "privatization," "school vouchers," and "school choice." Betsy DeVos is the Sec. of Ed., but neither she nor her kids ever went to PUBLIC schools. Moreover, she has less education than the average modern schoolteacher. She's got a helluva lot more money, though, with which she bought her way into the position.
common core is the most idiotic thing ever; they do not measure your actual skills they put you on a hierarchy of "proficient" or "below standards". School (as being a 9th grade student) is just a cluster of teachers continuously NOT TEACHING, I find myself taking large amounts notes but not retaining any of the information for tests even when told to study. I find myself enjoying my metal class and math; the teachers do not understand students thoroughly, thus causing students to feel like robots as the teacher just rambles without actually giving students time to ask questions. In my geography class since the 2nd day of school, I have taken at least a full page of notes while the teacher just constantly sits at her desk and whenever she hears the slightest whisper unleashes herself as if the student were interrupting her important speech. Oh yeah she isn't talking at all about things related to the class, we walk in and she says open to page so and so and copy everything. As if this will help us in anyway shape or form. Another problem I find in these classes is the attitude given when a student raises there hand and disagrees or has something to say that doesn't agree with what she is trying to shove through our now (by 9th grade) brainwashed heads. I find it happening to me almost daily, I will disagree with a teacher and instead of her/his trying to prove her point she/he decides to try and embarrass me. These teachers use there high status to manipulate and embarrass us without taking our opinion into consideration.
Yes, one of the biggest faults of our 'education system' is who we hire to teach. We find a mix of passionate and power hungry, exploitive people. We then drive out any passionate teacher with low wages and unfair treatment, and the only ones who remain are those who are only working in a school building to prey on children one way or another.
Vincent, I summerize these actions as a Dictatorship. Personally, I am concerned that the children may lose our Republic due to getting used to a Dictatorship. I think this adds a second problem to this CORE problem.
My brother's science teacher (he's in 6th grade) has recently been telling his class to just open to page whatever and take notes. He tells our parents, and they say that, it's how college is so you need to get used to it. (around those lines) But I don't find it useful either to just copy down a whole page to learn, what exactly? We aren't the ones planning the lesson for the day, we don't know what to learn from our textbooks, we don't know what's useful and what isn't. The teacher is supposed to be TEACHING, not telling people to copy their textbooks.
Makena Smith As a full-time college student, don't worry, college isn't like that at all. Most professors are quite engaged and knowledgeable, hence how they got to that level. The ones who would try to get away with something like that can't, because you're paying good money to be there.
17 minutes of zero fillers, zero pauses and almost zero stutters, this is a damn excellent speech. I see the laughs and smiles as his way to distract himself from the frustration that he is looking at his passionated subject being brutally butchered and deteriorated while himself cant do much to help.
It really is. The current pandemic only highlights these problems. The NACAC is telling college board to not test the SAT online in the fall, and they are not backing down. Why? Money. It's widely known that online testing-AP, SAT, or otherwise- contributed to the education gap and many of the problems this guy was speaking about. Yet they still want money 🤨
Even if he was someone's nephew, his potential policy changes would be denied before they even got the chance to be on paper... because they're bad for 'business'. Ah, I lament on the ability to make meaningful change within a broken, corrupted system...
I went to high school in the fifties. We had 6 grades in every year starting with the senior high school followed by the junior high school. Senior high was where the professionals were expected to come from, junior high, depending on the students ability was where the tradesmen, truck drivers, shop assistants etc.came from. everyone from top to bottom had to study reading writing and arithmetic, from there other subjects were added as you moved up the grades. The best part of the system was everyone found their own level and you could move up or down through the grades if you were coping or struggling, result being students could move at their own pace without being slowed down by less competent students and the lower grades could study without feeling embarrassed by their inability to grasp the concept of the lesson as quickly as the higher grade students.
That's both incredible and depressing. But if we combined something similar to that with our much better understanding of mental health and learning disorders, could we 'fix' school? Students able to pace themselves as needed?
@@mathormeth8897 You know what else is a bruh moment? Christine Mitchell is between 84 and 92-ish years old. Either she had help from a caretaker (that includes family members), is an extremely patient senior citizen, or lying about their age. I'm willing to bet its the 1st one.
my science teacher doesn’t even explain to us. she literally puts the work on the board then goes to the back to eat or something. really amazing teacher, huh?
My physics teacher had zero interest in the subject. She just taught us. I lost all the interest in the subject because of her. By the way, I became interested in physics because of my previous teacher..
I remember more about science from my own curiosity and UA-cam than my entire 9 years of school so far and I'm a strait A student. :( U.S. education needs to change.
That is because schools teach kids to memorize facts for a test, not for life or anything useful really. Everything that is useful in life is learned from our own curiosity, for the most part.
I grew up in an environment filled with verbal abuse, sadness and stress from the ages of five to eighteen, and this was the overarching theme in my life in which I defined myself. I was and still am a very sensitive person, and it stunted me. I was told that I was a failure as a small child when I did not pass a test, and I believed it. So I continued to fail, my home environment still raging on and distracting me through school. I was slower in social development, and I could barely focus in the classroom. Grades defined me. In a school filled with wealthy, elite children heading to Harvard, I was considered a failure at 16. My life, in the education systems eyes, was over. No one cared that I went home to a place with a sadness so thick it hit you at the door. They cared that I couldn’t remember the proper sentence structure of a phrase in Spanish. I went to college despite all of this, thinking that it would be vastly different, and I would sit in class every day and watch eager hands answer meaningless questions, the professors always trying to make us “hirable.” Where was the curiosity? We were learning out of fear, not love. I ended up dropping out recently because of this, deciding to self educate and start my business of gown and clothing design. I am so profoundly happy, and although I still feel the hateful eye of the school system and it’s cold hand on my shoulder, telling me that failure is my name, I can shrug it off now and continue to grow as an imaginative, artistic and intelligent person. I’m learning to climb the tree the way I was meant to. I so appreciated this, it was beautiful and I could not agree more. I believe that our young people could change the world if we simply taught them to love learning, (and learning what they are interested in for that matter), instead of teaching them to fear what will happen if they don’t.
H M “We were learning out of fear, not love.” This is an incredibly moving and poetic post. I wish I could save it to show someone in the education industry. H M you are fighting the good fight!! You’re amazing!!
Too bad his delivery had to be a tad rushed to fit the time frame...so it is in our short attention span world and 20 minute TED talks. This guy is dead on. Should have gotten a standing ovation at the end because he nails it over and over again, point after point.
The problem is not a low attention span. People with a low attention span do not even waste 20 minutes on things that do not interest them. The issues Josh raises deserve greater scrutiny and research -- but if the point does not get conveyed in 20 minutes, it's the speaker's fault, not the audience's fault. Maybe we should devise a test to see if people who watch youtube videos are applying enough logical rigor and hold the video authors accountable! (just kidding)
Continuing the analogy, the fruit on the tree are not the only fruit there are. There's fruit on the surface of the water, under the water, and even on land. Climbing trees is for people who WANT to.
Well stated, Josh. When leaving public education as a school psychologist, I was asked to explain my decision to head in another direction. My response: If you can show me a school policy that was developed solely for the student and not for the convenience or welfare of the organization I'll stay. If you will allow me to oppose special education for a student who has clearly not had the opportunity or benefit of an uninterrupted academic experience I'll stay. If you would allow teachers to engage in what they were trained to do, and not require them to use boilerplate curriculum that has no external validity I'll stay. You're going to tell me that you can't, which is a perversion of the truth. What you should tell me is that you won't, but that would be self-incriminating. So, if you wouldn't mind, give me the forms I'm supposed to sign so I can get out of here and take a shower.
+Punk Rock Psychology; SD Reeder, Ph.D. "If you would allow teachers to engage in what they were trained to do, and not require them to use boilerplate curriculum that has no external validity I'll stay. You're going to tell me that you can't, which is a perversion of the truth." Evidence to back up that comment about external validity? Not antagonising - just curious.
As a teacher myself, I can add my two cents, ha. Most schools (at least public schools) use particular curricula for every grade. This is because public schools, in order to remain in operation, must exhibit high performance rates on standardized tests, tests which are informed by state standards of education. Now, there is some freedom in classes that are non-tested, such as dual-credit or AP (although AP classes still tailor to the respective AP exams, obviously), but for the most part, teachers are held accountable for teaching the prescribed curricula. As to the "external validity" of certain curricula, I'd say that's relative since some concepts and ideas are more practical than others in our daily lives. But teachers are certainly afraid to go off-script out of fear of hurting their test scores--to say nothing of provoking students thanks to misconstrued political statements or notions that go against the norm.
I used to think education was a glorious and wonderful thing. But now in middle school, I feel like school is only programming people and turning them into robots. Whenever people do bad on tests, people blame themselves for not having the ability to learn. I had a teacher once in math, and she wasn't a very well teacher, and it killed my hope for learning math. So I hope for a better education system, without SBAC.
TigerbubbleProductions Yes, Same my Math teacher didn’t pay attention to Students who really needed help like I missed some days and he assumed I knew everything and he sent other kids who understood math out to get help with it, I learned half the Math in That School year
we do need to seriously rethink several aspects of our current education system, it under performs for most kids in elementary and then over demands in middle school. if we really wanted ALL children to be as useful and productive memebers of society, we would basically give kids 5-6 yrs of "gifted" education, then break them out at middle schoool to explore applied feilds of study and then at about age 14-15, bring them back into a classroom setting for some of the day/week and continue to let them have a more self directed but supervised learning path. this would cost more, both in staffing and in effort, but the rewards would be mond boggling. instead we have a frustrated stratified system of babysitting and college prep, depending on where you are slotted befroe you can tie your shoes.
Education is a wonderful and glorious thing. I love to learn. But school strips away the love to learn. Also it’s not the teachers. I hear teachers constantly complain about the curriculum they’re supposed to teach. It’s the curriculum that’s the problem. Everyone loves to learn but they don’t know it because they associate learning with school. Everyone is born a scientist. Exploring the world, learning, and experimenting with it. But then school happens. Don’t associate school and learning. Being a junior in high school I haven’t taken a single physics class yet. But I love space, I want to be an astrophysicist. I could nerd out with you about space for hours. But none of it came from school. Most of it through UA-cam. Everyone loves learning about something whether it’s space, psychology, music or writing. Don’t let school beat that out of you. I have 1 more year left in public schooling and my love to learn is still going strong but my hate for public school is rising still.
I spend a lot of my free time learning about things that interest me. I love to come up with ideas on how to better things and I can express those ideas however I want. At school, it feels like that part of my brain has shut off due to my anxiety of getting something wrong.
I really could have used a home economics course. A heads up for the confusion of real life would have helped me navigate this mess. And, I don't believe I ever understood what critical thinking was. I understood fear very well, and had a hard time finding the courage to innovate because of it. 7 years after graduating high school I now believe I have discovered what critical thinking looks like. Now I can face a challenge and say, " someone has done this before, I will go research what has worked and develop a plan to do it myself" But to do that I have to face how afraid and incompetent I feel. Standardized tests drill into our heads that there is only one right answer and you should never innovate your own answer. So true critical thinking is not possible using standardized tests. All that is to say, I completely agree with what this man is saying
I am being train and educated to be an educator at this moment and this toxic culture is implemented still, in our education system. It has been more than 6 years since they've released this talk and there are hardly any changes.
Thank you so much for saying this. I'm going into my junior year of high school which is considered the most important year of high school and all that we ever hear is get good testing scores or you won't have a good future. It's summer time and kids are studying for their SATs. A lot of my friends complain about how school is failing them. School isn't teaching them things that they could use in the real world or things that they love to do or would love to learn about. All we learn about is the common core curriculum. PARCC just got introduced to my high school and it's another money making machine created by private organizations that don't even see how it affects us. It drives me nuts. Something needs to be done about the education system.
sbrox11 i just remembered when i was in junior high school and i dont understand our lesson in math then i whispered to myself "wtf will do with this when i grow up" then my teacher heard it. she called my parents😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ernest Bautista yeah school had me constantly questioning my own self worth because i cant bring myself to care enough to memorize irrevelant useless formulas and facts and so i didnt do well on tests. I concluded later on that high school was trying to encourage obedience and weed out independant thought.
I was one of the lucky school districts that took one look at PARCC and tossed it to the side. I am also going to be a junior, and standardized testing is making me doubt my sanity and my intelligence... whee...
I go to a private school and it has art, but not in the way you think, instead of discovering a student's passion, stimulating his or her creativity... no, it's not that, not that at all in fact, it's the same as any other subject, just... y'know, remember this artist and something based off of his/her work, it's basically just "art history".
I'm an art history student with a passion of making art of my own. I love looking at the old masters, theorising what they might have felt and meant with the works of art they created. I love being able to see the development of individual creativity and the creativity of movements and groups throughout history. It's fascinating to see what artists pulled inspiration from and to find that inspiration in their work. All of that being said, this is not art and should not be taught as "art class". Creating your own art and learning to draw, sculpt, write etc. is vastly different from art history and it's wrong they teach art and art history interchangeably, they're not. I love both fields so much, and both offer inspiration for your own creativity, but they are too different to be lumped together as one field of study.
And then when you actually do art the teacher corrects you and tells you you've done something wrong and that you should draw it/make it in a certain way
I homeschooled for the last two years of my high school year, and I literally just googled the answer to everything. Literally not a single thing will do anything for me in life. Like, will me knowing where a semicolon should go actually make money? Probably not, seeing as I’ve literally never used one in my 18 years of life.
@@PeRRXX Okay, but that's just basic English. You could literally look up the context of when to use a semi-colon. It's important to understand the basics of what you use for everyday life. Things like chem and math however, are not used for everyday life, unless your passion needs those as steps to becoming great at your passion. Basically, learn the basics of what you use for everyday life, you don't need to learn everything.
He's not speaking with anger, he's speaking with passion!
And a little bit of righteous indignation, which is appropriate.
I mean both passion and anger are relevant here
I think he is also speaking with anger, and rightfully so. If you think about the "intended usage" of human emotions in the way of what behavior they cause, I think this is the best form of anger. Anger that strongly motivates this man to act on what he knows is important.
No, but you can certainly tell this makes him upset
If your not angry in the face of revelations, like this What is wrong with you? Anger is part of who we are. we evolved anger for a reason it's because sometimes getting angry and breaking something down is the proper course of action.
"Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all" -Aristole
Who 'stole'??
@@shijovjose Aristoteles an Ancient Greek Philosopher
Brilliant
I agree with this statement.
I don’t know who “Aristole” is, but Aristotle definitely didn’t say this.
I don’t know how many times I’ve heard a teacher say, “We have to learn this because it’s on the test but you won’t need it for anything else.”
I wish I could give this comment (and few more) more likes than just one.
@Tobias Zeller Teachers *do* say that a lot. Not everything is babied to you they are tired of it all too.
@Tobias Zeller The honest teachers certainly do. At least the ones I had did back in the 80's and 90's.
In our school it came to a point, that we ask our teachers if everything was on a test or pop quiz.
Josef Martinovský I wish I could give more than one like for saying that
this came out almost six years ago. Everything he said applies to schools half a decade later...
Yes.
Guy - "We need water!! We need it really bad!!!"
People applaud. Nothing's done.
Guy - "We need water!! We need it really bad!!! I also looked at the map. Says here there's a water source. I know someone who can do piping. We need funding. I set up a donation page. Please send money. I'll handle the admin issues. Once funding's done, we'll start to build up a piping network. Please help me. I can get the water we need."
People applaud. Some people donate. Guy persists in getting funding. Finally, a reliable water supply is procured and people start getting the water they need.
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One person shouts about an issue. Passionately.
Another shouts about an issue, passionately AND does things to bring about the changes he wants to see.
From what I looked at on the net, the speaker's a good shouter about education.
WannaPlayAGame because schools haven’t changed for the past 100 years!
Well, no one sees this. Everyone is busy studying for tests rather than learning about faults in society.
I thought the same way
Just yes.
I just find it so mind-blowing that if you're bad at science or math, people say you're not trying hard enough, but if you're bad at things like art, they'll just say, "Don't worry, it's just not your thing."
Trash in general your dp tho.
That is really well said
I am bad at physics and not interested in it at all but if I learn 4 hours straight that bitch gets in my brain and I kinda understand it but come on!I have to do thia every fucking week,fuck it!
IKR. Never ever occurred to me to see it that way.
I think it's because it has become fairly common knowledge on how to teach basic science or mathematics to a pretty good level, however most teachers have no idea how to teach the arts, therefore no-one can really help you there.
This guy should be the U.S. government's Secretary of Education...
@@eplurbispablum Erik Prince is awesome.
No, honestly he should be the president
fujoshi with a knife I agree
This guy was actually my teacher in high school he was great cause he was always helpful I’m helping you figure out why you had trouble with the class instead of just giving you excuses
yeah either him or sal khan
My fourth grade teacher told my parents I had a learning disability. I got my PhD in biochemistry 4 years ago :)
I'm hoping to get a masters in forensics (though not sure what type) and until 4th grade everyone thought I couldn't read... I'm starting my second year of high school soon and last year I was top of my grade so I hope this year will be the same.
One can get a PhD with a learning disability
@@tctarheelfarmin358 True but in my case it didn't matter as it turned out I didn't have one.
Congrats!
Congrats! I think you’re kind of accidentally furthering a stigma here right now unfortunately, so maybe reword this comment?
I used to love learning, but tests and assignments have taken away that desire to learn.
That's school. It's trying to break you then make you into a submissive loyal worker for corporation. They don't want you to be too smart to question the system they wanted to be smart enough to only work.
Me too
If anything, it's strengthen my want to learn. Learn outside, non-school knowledge that I find interesting. To prove that school has failed us students.
I think school either breaks you or makes you become stronger as a person
That's me. Nowhere did I find practical learning. All I got to do was rote learning. And my mom was like that's how the education system is, and the companies and universities see grades, so just sync into the system. That's how I hate studying. Its just a test of memory.
Finland has no standardized testing and their students score the highest in the world consistently. Very well stated
emily schwellenbach noted
Your contradicting yourself "no standardized test" and "best scores in the world consistently" if it were consistently then it would mean they took a test over and over to get these consistent results.
What are the tests they score well on?
@@caughtyouslippin1111 I think he meant they "consistently" ranked top of the world not that they took the test "consistently".
@Mike Randazzo I think they only make those international tests, but from what I know their education is not based in preparing them for a test
My heart is breaking at the moment. I taught for 25 years. This is all true. Something needs to change, because we are destroying our children and wearing down our teachers. We need to bring back the joy of learning and the individuality and creativity of teaching.
@みさきめい It sickens me. These students will not be prepared for college. Those who choose to go directly into the workforce after high school, will have no understanding of accountability--which is already a problem in our society. They also won't have the necessary skills to deal with failure and competition.
To continue with another prevalent problem in education....dishonest administrators continue to create brand new positions for their incompetent friends who should be fired and license revoked. Extremely common.
When the new gradecard (new dog and pony show) doesn't improve test scores, who do you suppose will be blamed AGAIN? BLAMING THE TEACHERS IS ONE THING THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE.
Every school year, there's a new circus that comes to town, and the teachers are always blamed when the new "trick" doesn't work. Very frustrated with the incompetent, deceitful "leaders".
I hope so
yes I think the joy of learning is very important, students are told that they have to do certain things because of the syllabus, because it's most likely to get you a job, because it'll make you more balanced for employers etc. and it can be really disillusioning and confusing. I found that I was just learning because I was being told that I have to learn these things, that I have to do certain things to be successful and that what you want to learn isn't important. I lost all my passion and I think it factored into my depression and consequently leaving before my exams. I wish that the focus wasn't on the testing but was instead on what you as a student are going to do, and what you need for that. Lots of respect to you as a teacher, teachers don't get enough for what they do, despite being so hardworking to help and educate your students.
Edit: forgot to add that with the way exams work, like the ted talk guy says, a fish whose judged on its ability to climb a tree, won't realise it's true potential for swimming.
Are you actually gonna do something about it or just talk? Are you willing to resign your kids from school?
If not you''re part of the problem.
Carol Nicodemi 💙🙏agreed
We’ve stopped educating for life, and started teaching for tests.
It's all about money. Standardized testing is a million dollar industry.
Preach
Bingo! They forgot that the point is the make useful people. When I was growing up in the late 80s and early 90s I was told that computers were the most important thing we would need for to learn. They literally didn't teach us anything about computers. That was left up to us. Do you need a class called "life skills". Teach somebody how to get an apartment and what tenant insurance and a down payment is all about. What are taxes all about? Teach them to calculate how much you'll actually pay for that car over of the life of the loan with interest. They don't teach things that are hard to put on a written test. That's why we fail. We forgot WHY we test.
Beautifully said!
Jason Dashney same thing applies now with blockchain I believe
He also forgot this:
If you're one of the best and brightest, school slows you down and tells you that you're moving too quickly
Like my old french class. I completed every worksheet in under 5 mins usually and I was told I can't move ahead because i'm too fast. Maybe her work is just too easy.
Actually my school doesn't do that(I live in Europe), I got to do absolutely nothing and get scored maximum while the teacher teaches other kids.
To sum it up, they forced me to waste time. That's even worse in my opinion
I had learned how to sum at the age of 5 and I wasn't allowed to see anything else in school, we 'learned' how to multiply in thirth grade(8 years), but I already knew that when I turned 6. Only when i reached highschool (12 years) I started to learn new stuff
Haha, it happened to me. So I learn online with TED, Wikipedia, KhanAcademy and others.
One time, I went to quick on a MAPS test. They told me to take it again and so I basically wasted like 40 minutes of my life taking the test again only to get an increase of 10 points which just barely brought me to an average. What a waste of time.
It's 2019. This should really spread to more people, because this is important to shaping the future.
Besides, if a few kids hate school, it's normal. But if 95% of students hate school, that should be a pretty clear sign that something is not right.
Copycat97 Jonnuelle I would be surprised if even 1/20 kids actually enjoy school. I mean, there are days which it is not terrible but it doesn’t seem like it could ever being legitimately enjoyable.
I hate school and I’m smart; actually in college everyone sounds dead
Nobody wants to speak up when a teacher asks a question and I always chuckle in laughter how lifeless everyone is
I'm a person that loves to learn. But exams spoil the learning experience for me, because it just makes learning stressful. I'm part of the "top 5" in my class, and I hate school. I feel like I'm not learning. All I do is memorize for the exams as much as I can, some without understanding and vomit all the forced fed information on the exam paper.
@@fiddlesticks6146 Yes, most of the things taught in schools are mostly useless. I don't see how learning about the geology of my neighbour country is gonna impact my future job, especially if I forget everything after about 2 weeks.
I'm considered smart and school is still stressful. I had to work all morning for homework because I couldn't get enough sleep.
I started crying when he was talking about the kids with the low test scores who have other life factors affecting their ability to test well. I had a friend who almost committed suicide because the public education system told them they "aren't trying hard enough" and "won't be sucessful" because of how they look on a piece of paper. Even me who is typically a "top 90th percentile" student in most subjects, I end up feeling like I fail if I don't meet that expectation, that my parents won't be as happy, and it grew into full blown depression for my late elementary and middle school years. What use is knowing how to write a perfect essay when you are dead?
"What use is knowing how to write a perfect essay when you are dead?" well said. Keep up your work! Don't be disheartened. Find ways.
Each kid is different and each kid has different needs, but the public education system refuses to realize this and that is why the education system is broken. This is why tutors are in need now more than ever because the teachers are not aloud to interact with their students on a one on one basis during school hours because this horrible system does not allow it
I had almost the exact same experience as you. Schools mostly resemble factory’s more than education. Sparking passion for what the student loves is the most important part. Being a junior in high school I haven’t taken a single physics class yet but I will nerd out for days about space stuff. All that learning was at home mostly on UA-cam. You will do what you love and if you never know what you love then you have nothing to do and hardly anyone wants to do calculus for a living. I’ll probably end up doing a lot of calculus though. I have a friend who thinks a 95% is failing. She hardly gets any sleep and one of these days I swear she’s going to have a breakdown. This education culture is so awful. Now they’re militarizing the schools with metal detectors and mandatory searches because now everyone’s a terrorist. School shootings are terrible but metal detectors won’t stop anything. But that’s a whole other rant.
God help this ray to outshine any doubt.
You are surely worth more than any essay.
Follow your dreams
I have a friend who is cutting because of this system. It needs to change. Even though we have the longest school hours in most of the world, we don't have high achievers. Yes, we do need a big change
The edit: I found a typo so I just fixed it, I didn't change anything else
I am an inner city teacher, on the verge of quitting until I heard this. I have a heart for my students but couldn't put my finger why I hated my job until now. I was wrongfully conditioned to believe scores reflected my, and my students success. I completely forgot they are people who don't necessarily express their ambitions through studies. Thank you for saving me from making the biggest mistake of my life.
watcher4234 be brave. Fight the problem not abide by it.
Are you still a teacher now?
You thought QUITTING your inner city teaching job would have been the worst mistake of your life!!? Ha!
I know this is 2 years too late, but godspeed.
@@chrisa7672 You just don't get it.
You know you're done with school when you ask yourself questions like *"How is this helping me with what I want to become"*
Been asking that ever since the 6th grade.
Catharina Brouwer You should follow your passion no matter what anyone says. I believe in you! Don’t let anyone stop you from achieving your dreams. 💫❤️
So since grade 2?
I'm asking that now that college starts this fall.
THANK YOU!!! Someone agrees! I have a parent that’s a college level, high school chemistry teacher. I love them, but whenever I ask that question they ALWAYS changes and avoids answering in all possible ways. I want to be a video editor. I want to take a film class next year but CAN’T because I “have” to take a math and science class. It makes no sense
He sounds angry, as we all should be.. lets wake up
Right on
Ok let’s go riot in the streets
I'm 24 & I am still angry that public school stole 12 years of my life.
and 392+ people are still sleeping like before
400th like!
Well said sir
This man needs to become the Secretary of Education!
Agree
He was my Algebra 2 teacher and he has been my favorite since then, he actually listens to his students and even now that I've graduated , I still turn to him in times of confusion with my education.
Chris H YES!!!!
He was my alg 2 teacher too! I'm not getting my bachelor's in mathematics because of him :)
I'm not the natalie he was talking about lol but it was fun hearing my name
“Don’t let schooling get in the way of your education”
-Einstein
Holden Hurtuk
Danny Devito
Ebi Island 😂
That’s actually pretty funny
no wonder why he died alone and divorced without lefting no one to heir his pasion but only to say oh cool he no lifed studying for 50 years to barely make into the average citizen life
I was always told that I was smart, yet my grades don't show that. They're riddled with C's, D's, and F's. Yet for some reason I can out think many people and come up with solutions faster, get around obstacles, and even get a win for a group project if I know what I'm doing. I contain random information in my head that at first glance seems irrelevant but then turns out to help in some situation... and yet, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be a college dropout by the end of the year. And I've always been told that if I drop out, I'm not going to do anything worthwhile. And I can actually afford a textbook. Seeing kids who are worlds smarter than me get treated like they're not worth help makes me realize that the "No Child Left Behind" was just a marketing strategy.
Maybe you are smart, just in the wrong environment
we are literally the same people
@@wonderboy2165 are you from kurkzart in a nut shells
Egg theory video?
@@tourmelion9221 no but I think I know who you are talking about
@The Trolling master teachers want nothing more than for us to suffer
The best experience I ever had as a teacher was when I was hired by a homeschool group to play Dungeons & Dragons with a small bunch of 9-12 yr old boys. When we started out, the kids had little interest in reading or math. By week 2 they had read through the rulebooks, and were discussing things like bell curves. Math and reading scores skyrocketed. On top of that, they started to develop interpersonal skills, with brothers who usually fought communicating and becoming protective of each other.. And they developed problem-solving skills.
So yeah, teaching needs to be relevant. Find what gets the kids motivated and RUN with that.
But if the schools are just "teaching to the tests" they can't do that..
Correct
Lion Gladden omg💙🙏
Exactly why I homeschooled my son. By the time he turned 18 he was doing college level classes. He had/has good self esteem, he can do his own taxes and balance a check book. He understands how to invest his money. He was/is also physically fit enough to join the military and breeze through the training. He is creative and artistic which is something he still enjoys today. The military has paid for his college education so he doesn’t have any student loan debt. And on top of all that I made sure he knew how to use tools and do electrical work (I’m an electrician). And home schooling wasn’t as difficult as one would think it would be. It was rather enjoyable and I ended up learning some things as well lol.
Prepperjon that’s a really smart move, I’m still in school and when my dad helps me I really start to feel comfortable while learning and I can also express how proud I am when I solve a problem that’s difficult for me myself! :)
D&D, solves all your problems
I couldn't agree with this more. I'm an AP/Honors student so my classes are predominantly with higher achieving students, and it seems as if everyone is more worried about GPA and SAT scores than actually learning.
Man that's true I'm a sophomore and took my first AP class the girl I sit next is really nice but I just want to give her a hug she is so hard on herself academically because it helps her do better
Which school is important but you shouldn't hurt yourself over it
AP DOESN'T TAKE TOU ANYWHERE
@@damanidorsey7255 most the time yeah but like the community college I'm going to does
Universities care more about their grades and scores than what knowledge they retain.
My freshman year into Mr. Katz class he called us his experiment. At first I thought who is this guy, my first day in his class and we were his "experiment". What I didn't realize was that he was one of the most understanding teachers I did have. Even after failing a test, we were given the chance to pick up our grades just by explaining why we got each problem wrong (of course it was a lot of work, but boy was it genius) I was thankful for this because not only did I learn from my mistakes but I realized is that practice helps. Meaning if I did all my homework, Id do better on test, but only because I got my practice in. Thank you Mr. Katz for not just being a teacher and giving your students a grade.. but for going above and beyond and wanting your students to learn. Because that's all that matters. I hope your voice is heard. I am now a high school graduate and till this day my favorite math teacher would have to be the famous Mr. Katz
Emily mendez That's awesome!
Small world, I was in his freshman year class! He is an amazing teacher -- one of the best I've ever had.
Experimenting with alternatives to the current system of testing, I like it.
So he changed, lowered the educational standards and your performance improved?
He is one of the rarities then. Rarely has a war ever been fought if the one who led the way was not able to inspire others to pick up their blades to do what was asked of them because they were inspired and motivated to do what they believed to be the right thing.
It makes me angry that this video is 5 years old and NOTHING has changed
Nothing has changed since the last time things changed in the 1960s
Angry and sad!
Actually things are far worse today! More Vouchers, More Charters on Public Tax Dollar!
Corporates are having it their way!
reminds me of an assassin creed game that has a lengthy dialouge and ends with ," nothing changes"
AGREED!
The biggest problem with the school system is that we punish by lowering their quality of life. Didn't get good grades? Go to the neighborhood school where bullying is common and the quality is poor. Forgot your book? Markes down your grades, and no, you can't get it from your locker to actually learn. Students shouldn't be competing for a good school because school is a _service_ , not a job. You don't compete to which restaurant you go to eat at. The service competes for your payment. Problem is, you pay for the service before you get to choose what you want, so there is no need for schools to be high quality other than to bait middle schoolers into paying for extracurricular services to _maybe_ get into a good highschool.
Support your local charter schools for something different. The teachers unions are enforcing the industrialization of education.
You make a great case on this. Furthermore, the ones who don't obtain good grades are not always the unruly troublemakers or intellectually challenged. They may quietly have internal struggles with mental health or bullying, are socially challenged, excel in subjects that are not apart of the standard curriculum, or are just non-conventional to the methods of the school system by design rather then by choice.
@@yurishaa.9337 I should probably consider that testimonial. Not to mention, other oddballs or outliers also tend to have neurological differences that conflict with the personal views of education in modern schooling, like those with Autism or ADHD. American media usually likes to repetitiously generalize challenges with academics in regards to race and socioeconomic status. That cliche always rubs me the wrong way because the nature of the situation isn't exclusively to just race and class but about the whole ritualistic tradition of specific ideologies towards intelligence being passed down for centuries.
@Lucas Zhu True, the loop continues to worsen because people don't really want to address the elephant in the room.
This is why the voucher system would be good
That speech had heart.
He pretty much went Eminem Rap God in his..lmao.. gave me goose bumps and shti..
It's easy to tell how personally invested he is in the subject based on the passion he had when speaking. He's the type of person that knows what needs to be done and has a better view of what's important because he sees it every day
true
...but little evidence.
Yeah, it did, but...it's a faulty argument that relies more on "heart" than economic facts. He talks about "rooting out corruption" in a system of education that literally thrives on the use of force to exist. How're you supposed to make that ethical? It's a product we have no choice but to buy, whether we choose private education for our kids or not. How is *that* institution going to say, with a straight face, "Violence begets more violence."? Or "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."? Without being a walking contradiction? Taxes are fine, they're membership of a club and come included with the benefits of the club, but we should *avoid* taxation that directly violates human rights; by forcing us to buy a product---textbooks, desks, curriculum, reading lists, PSA's, etc.---whether we want or need the product or not. That's how you avoid enshrining corporatism in law.
It's been four years and it isn't any better. I'd like to know what he thinks now.
Wolfferoni As someone who goes to his school and converses with him from time to time (he would go into our Calculus class and have discussions with our teacher and class about the education system). I can tell you that he still has strong belief that the system will change eventually and that it is a matter of the people to continuously voice their complaints to advocate this change.
It's disappointing how the entire system is being based around trying to get that grade instead of learning the subject matter. Everyone at the schools are sick of it, apart from the administration and hierarchy of course.
He's a great person and an excellent teacher, based off of others experiences and those few conversations I was in.
Tell him if you can: the message reaches more people every day.
I know. I am a teacher assistant and I refuse to get certified because I hate this system. I work at a Montessori school but we cant do Montessori work because we. have to do CKLA and Eureka Math. Its so bad when I was the same with my kids, before I realized what I was doing. Mad at my son because he cant focus (2nd grade who thinks school is boring except lunch, recess, and PE) and my daughter who is in honors class but is stress because she only has a 93 in honors pre calculus.
That's sad. A Montessori school made one of my friends a human computer with imagination.
Still setting the standards for his student to succeed, but you can ask him Facebook-joshua katz for education
This dude is probably the favorite teacher at his school
I personally have him this year. I actually transferred to his class from AP Statistics in order to have easier work for more free time for learning. Even with online school, Katz goes far beyond any other teacher out of all the teachers in my entire formal school education. There is an endless list of everything he has done, is doing, and plans on doing for us. And while I may know all the math already, he still manages to teach me something or challenge me everyday. And it is true lots of the students are extremely behind in the academic curve, I see it and experience it every day. He is there for them. Phenomenal teacher, life coach, and person.
@@zacktrack3176 real life Korosensei
My fav back in 2012
Nope, the favorite teacher is the teacher who plays the game of new learning strategies and standards. Then, if the teacher is good enough with his poney show he may leave the classroom and becomes an administrator or an academic coach.
rest are npc teachers
He didn't stutter once, he didn't miss a beat. This dude is remarkably talented, and he spoke such revolutionary words.
One day I will spawn a child. But that day will not come until this man's message has been enacted.
I still wouldn't spawn a child even if this message has been enacted. No one should come to this world just so they can try hard to survive after and suffer for the likes of any one else (parents who brought them here w/o their consent) whereas they never needed to if they never existed. Parents should comply to the professional rules of moral conduct, just like any other licensed profession does. Well, actually, forget that, I am more in favor of humanity terminating itself. There really is no good reason to birth a child except for the impulsive selfiness deep within everyone.
Probably was saying what came from his mind. Like angry people, they don’t stutter, instead they speak their mind.
@@katelyn1782 "There really is no good reason to birth a child except for the impulsive selfishness deep within everyone" - How about loving somebody and wanting to create a life with them? Of course I'm talking about love, not merely lust, which is why we have a lot of children being brought up in broken homes with parents with no maternal/paternal instincts. I do think more people should think seriously before they have children though.
Katelyn178 ease your nihilism there buddy.
@GTS Well, because there's also beauty and meaning in the world as well. If two people really love each other and recognize and accept the responsibilities implicit in becoming a parent, they're going to love and support that child and the child is going to more than likely have a net positive effect on the world. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everybody should have 8+ kids, humans are currently reproducing at a rate that really isn't sustainable for our environment/food supply in the short term and things will get dangerously thin in a few decades, but there's nothing wrong with having a modest sized family for the right reasons.
This was made four years ago and nothing has changed.
Because this opinion is saddly isn't popular enough. Might take many generations for people to finally wake up.
That's why there needs to be a popular, grassroots movement spurred from students, teachers, educators, administrators etc. to get proper change. Similar to those teachers in Kentucky who protested en masse. It only takes a few passionate people to cause change that will help millions of future generations.
Advenco it’s called charter schools, where I teach
It is worse now
well what do you expect? He seems to think merely wanting to open a business is enough!! You need a lot of education to run a business, and merely wanting to be the business owner but you can't do math and accounting, and lack something required to learn these skills, you are headed for disaster.
What he said about art subjects is entirely true. I've been heading towards an artistic field of work all of my life, I've talked with professionals and was shown possibilities and jobs revolving around art. School, on the other hand, has completely removed art, music and theatre as subjects. They don't exist. In my school, they just don't exist anymore, and the tragically ironic thing is that I live in Greece, a country famous for it's ancient history. So, in the ancient educational system in Greece, art was as important as mathematics because it was considered food for psychological intelligence. In today's time, we praise and admire the mental state of these ancient people and tell ourselves we should be proud of our ancestors, while completely ignoring their notions and discoveries. Instead we are too busy learning ancient Greek like it's being spoken outside.
I descend from all of Europe, I can definitely understand the diasporic view you have on Ancient Greeks because it's even weird talking about any part of Europe when I don't know it.
For my school, art and music are there, but not much is put into some of those subjects. For elementary, if you doodled in class, you where told, "This isnt art class, now put the paper away and pay more attention!" While in art class, it was rare we actually got the chance to draw freely. We just where forced to make art projects and since i was one of the best and only good artists is my class, i guess my art teacher "expected much" of me, so she was extra harsh, and would shout at me, if the body was short and the head was a bit big, even on a sketch. For 5th grade, we got to make yearbook designs 4th graders would vote on. We had to do it. We couldnt use much creativity due to there being a theme we HAD to use, and if we didnt do one, we got an awful grade in art. My art teacher said before we started making them; "If you refuse to make one, you will get a bad grade. Your parents will call me asking, "Why did my child get a bad grade?" Well, it was because they didnt do a yearbook design!" So even if you where a gifted artist, it wouldnt matter if you poured your heart and soul in it. It only mattered if you did it. And like he said, it made us less creative over time.
art and music were both subjects we had in my school. art was, to be fair, rather good, but to most people it'd be completely useless and they'd have not went to the class if it was by choice. music, on the other hand, hardly taught anything. it was more ''hit stuff and make music with your classmates'' than actual information. earrape followed.
theatre was never there in the first place, i don't believe, which i was quite upset about. i may have anxiety but i'm actually good on a stage, i find it fun, being another person, living a different life, the like. i have a great memory too, so remembering lines is easy for me.
interesting comment. if you look around the world, failed goverments are focussing on dead language like its the grand solution. if dead languages were worthy study here in the uk we'd be speaking yea olde english - wouldnt that be fun for everyone? as soon as your electeds start pushing dead languages its time for young people to run for public office and get things back on track. being 40+ does mean you have a decent brain, always remember that
i am a fan of learning languages, just not useless, dead ones. while its helpful to understand origin of a language, beyond that ...
everyone in the world should learn sign as it would be the only truly global/ inclusive language - how cool would that be?
This guy is the greatest. I had him in high school and he always believed in me. He never gave up on us as his students. 10/10
You want to make sure students are getting enough sleep? Stop allowing teachers to give 2-4 hrs of homework per day per class. Especially when you have 6 classes and homework for almost every class.
Or give students breathing room so they can actually learn a subject instead of just memorizing for a test.
And start school hours later
I have 8 subjects a day...
Math
Literacy
Science
History
Greek
French
Geography
Art
I've seen many teachers complain that they don't really enjoy grading HW. They do it not because they like it, but because they are required by the schools. Teachers are Human too
I failed 2 of my classes in 10th grade simply because of the workload and I couldn't keep up. Which did not help my depression
I seroiusly wish he was my teacher. I would love his class.
"These are human beings!"
Treating an intelligent being as a mashine is madness
My AP history teacher is like him it's really nice
He was my teacher for my senior year. Loved him! Hated math with all of my heart and sometimes didn’t do my work but he never gave up on me.
You’ve reminded me of Scatman John’s quote “I want to be a human being, not a human doing. I couldn’t keep that pace up if I tried”
and the only time they do focus on why kids are failing its always because "you're on your phone too much"
Are you on your phone too much?
A disciplined student with a solid base of understanding of the world could certainly learn a fuckton with the interweb.
But how many young people does that describe? A small minority most likely.
The majority.of students would be better off.guided by a great teacher than wandering on their own....at least, until they are disciplined and have a solid base of understanding from which to wander.
Neutron X by disciplined I mean intellectually disciplined which is directly related to having a solid base of understanding of the world. An intellectually disciplined.person doesn't latch on to the 1st thing they hear but analyzes all opinions on an issue before reaching any conclusions.
This will prevent people from being easily manipulated and lied to.
People who watch alex jones or fox news lack this solid understanding of the world which is why they are so easily lied to.
A solid base of understanding occurs after a person runs through a few basic surveys of human history....and gets a sense of general tendencies.
I am assuming you are a student who has heard this, and there is truth to it. I began teaching before cell phones and before smart phones, and only having a student's attention 10% to 25% of the time, if that, has made it impossible for them to learn anything that requires real concentration and depth.
“But the internet teaches me more than school-“
Me: I've been drawing all my life and I truly aspire to become an artist
School: do you know how to do this overly complicated algebra equation?
Me: no?...
School: guess you can't be an artist then
my teacher banned drawing :/
@@titsrus6859
Ouch... sorry dude.
Turn the equation to a drawing, show the solution graphically, understand the idea. After that it is only to scale the numbers correct.
Or you can continue to wonder about the numbers and signs in the formula and keep failing.
In Finland we focus on creative problem solving rather than memorazing a lot of stuff. You can't learn everything, but you can learn to adapt your knowledge in new situations and get the route to the solution using knowledge close to your intrests that you'll remember.
It's not that hard, once you figure out the path of learning that suits your profile.
Also looking cross subjects helps understanding phenomena. Biology can include math and chemisty, sports can mix with physics or biology, art and history is a good mix. Finding the link between subjects can be the missing 💡 that reveals the understanding.
What you memorize for a test will be forgotten, what you learn to improve youself, you'll remember 30 years later. It's all about understanding how to learn for life, and get the motivation to link it to your personal intrests.
After all, you study for YOUR future, not for scoring well on a specific test.
Btw, I'm not a teacher.
me too dhgjdjf im drawing as I watch this video
algebra is a cakewalk
Our current public school system is simply teaching kids well into their college years how to remember and regurgitate information on a test without retaining anything.
This is so true, if you ask me what my last test was about I have no idea I remember it for the test then I forget it since most of it I won’t even use once I’m out of school
Bulimia
This is a big part of his point... but it's due to the fact that corporations (Pearson, et al) who are raking in government money hand over fist have bought enough influence with lawmakers to legislate that schools use this model.
Not true. I also learned how to make up stats and cheat without getting caught
2 digit number = self worth
He spoke with so much passion. I saw fire in his eyes.
You go to school to learn school. Our children are being trained and not educated. The system is designed for students to get jobs. They need tools right now. Don't tell me what to think. Show me how to think. The world is changing at a rapid pace. Schools have not kept with the times. The time is now.
That's why there needs to be a popular, grassroots movement spurred from students, teachers, educators, administrators etc. to get proper change. Similar to those teachers in Kentucky who protested en masse. It only takes a few passionate people to cause change that will help millions of future generations.
I learned in 1962 that college was big business. 32% of college grads first job is not in the field they studied.
School isn't designed for students to get jobs; it's designed to get them to go to college. Only about 1/4 jobs require a college degree, so what are we supposed to do with the other 3/4?
Love that. "You go to school to learn school."
Teachers say that they prepare you for adulthood. No,my parents are the ones preparing me
Man, you can see how heartbroken and frustrated he is about the situation...
The only thing missing from this talk was a mic drop.
Or maybe the dude talking a breath
He do make good points tho
definitely the Mic drop would of made him the 🐐
This guy knows exactly what he is talking about. I'm only a 6th grade student and I have noticed this problem throughout my entire education. School has been transformed from a place of learning to a place of manipulation, control, and profit. What really sucks is that this video, this speech was given four years ago and, at least where I live, nothing has changed. We as people need to take this guy's wise words and spread his message, or nothing will ever change. This is no way to educate people, if it is meant to control them for profit.
This comment reminds me of myself at 6th grade, me currently being a 9th grader (freshman at highschool), and it makes me wonder how many students would genuinely agree if every one of them was shown this video. Keep on going, keep on going.
I graduated 7 years ago and I can agree with all of this. There's just so much WRONG. So much pressure put on everyone. I may be out of school, but for the first few years after I was out, I had recurring nightmares about the place and when I went with my mom to pick up one of my younger brothers from the high school we went to, I very much almost had a panic attack because the place itself brought me so much anxiety. And that's actually a vast IMPROVEMENT from before I graduated, too.
School shouldn't ever have to be this. We're meant to go there to learn, to grow. It shouldn't have to be something so stressful we want to avoid it. It shouldn't be a place that's so unbearable that it leaves mental scars that stay with you.
Im thinking doing activities outside of school may become equally or more important than the normal education.
@@tetrakataki I think school done right is something you want to return to.
Get home schooled. It has proven to be effective.
I remember when i wanted to be an inventor. Now i just want to pass algebra 2.
Brachmin Dunsparce dang same
Brachmin Dunsparce Yikes, hold on to that dream and don’t let algebra 2 crush you.
Orrrrr...what you invent wont be Algebra II dependent!
Good luck being an inventor if you can't pass Algebra. The reason why we have Education the way it is, is because to do anything of worth in society you must be educated to a certain minimum standard. You want be an inventor? Learn the foundations of invention, which is in a large part mathematics!
@@jordancork5355 Except they make it boring and meaningless af so you develop a hate towards algebra? When did learning algebra ever utilize real world problems. Focusing on concepts (which school maths is altogether because it lives only in some made up mathematical problems) makes you hate anything that has to do in reality, and that's why there's so many depressed students today. They learn concepts, not solving real world problems and things that actually make any sense for them.
School: You need to get at least 10 hours of sleep each day.
Also School: Okay here is another 40 bajillion hours of homework that you need to finish tomorrow.
I never understood homework. My math teacher does all exercises in class, where she can personally see what are every student’s weak and strong points, and improve from there. As a result, even the “bad students” of hers aren’t failing math.
My teacher said if u have to do more than 30 min of homework a day either you didn't fokus in school or you have to much homework cuz free time is important. I loved that teacher
Something that online schooling has made me realise is that if there is nothing forcing you to do the work, it’s not going to get done. And that’s not a problem with me or my parents or even the teachers. It’s the system. My state in Australia has just let schools back and I’ve done more work at school than I did in the last half of my online schooling. I don’t have any motivation to do work at home because I don’t see a point. I wanted to be a game dev 6 months ago. But now that I have been told that in year 12 I will have to do over an hour of homework/studying for every period for 25 periods a week and that I might have to cut back on hobbies because of it. I just feel like it’s more work than it’s worth.
...after you spend 5 hours this evening chasing a ball around...
My sleep schedule is the one thing i control in my life so i push it to the limit and stay up till morning
It's gotten worse and we are now going into 2020. So sad.
Oh, and it hasn't gotten better since.
@@Rime_Thyme The Neoliberals , Neoliberalism the Neocons and NeoConservatism has failed us all.
FreelanceArt101 Indeed it has.
Not worse. More like it hasn´t changed and there are increasingly more,better options
Nothings changed, its 2021
I've got to say.. This man is quite a phenomenal speaker. He not only hit every point of the truth, but also delivered with such a powerful impact. It's quite a shame that greed is such a powerful sin with such a devastating impact..
When i am in school...i feel like
*i am not living i am existing*
I don't feel like im thriving. I feel like im barely surviving.
This thread is the biggest mood.
if its any consolation so do your teachers
the only thing you should be feeling in school that is of relevance is "getting smarter". Everything else is irrelevant, stop being so self-centered you whiny brats. My head hurts when i see the number of future socialists in here, incapable of performing and always complaining about their safe spaces. If school makes you feel like killing yourself, do us all a favor and listen to your heart.
I feel like a ghost. Everything is moving around me so fast and im so lost. People tell me to get involved but I don’t know how or where to go
I failed alot of my subjects at high school including maths but in my free time, I programmed computer games at the age of 12. I was told I needed to be good at maths to write software (It's a lie). Even though I failed alot of high school, i'm now a successful 6 figures in the bank software programmer.
Behold, proof that unconventional learning is 1000x better.
I hate when people say you need to be good at math to write software. worst lie I've ever been told.
@@rayexception4590 I thought this was the case my whole life which is why I didn’t study compsci since I struggle with math. I think I’m gonna self learn programming.
@@rayexception4590 Would it make you feel better, if people said you need to be good at language to write software?
Math is about structure & systematic organization, which are the cornerstone of good programming, excluding spaghetti code! So, when people say you need to be good at Math for coding, what they mean is mathematical thinking, which is a form of problem-solving!
WHAT?! I was always dissuaded from doing programming for that very reason. I’m TERRIBLE at math. Nobody has ever corrected me or told me it was a lie. Including people who work in it
I had my whole school grades and life ruined bc I had undiagnosed crippling social anxiety. No one bothered to care even tho it was so obvious
Mavious It’s probably cause teachers didn’t connect to you to know that something was wrong
Same. Even the teacher who loved to learn didn't really care, only my history and pe teacher cared. And it felt so nice that someone actually likes me despite me being quite and not bullying me
@Charles Wolfanger online friends? We can probably motivate you dude uwu
@Charles Wolfanger
Online friends?
Meditation
A course in something you like
Teachers dont care. Ive cried in class multiple times and not a word from them. They see how much their words affect us and do nothing
One of my best teachers ever. I was one of his 'honor' students and his way of teaching is so beneficial. Go Mr. Katz!
The public school system needs more teachers like this, passionate professionals who care about ALL their students, not just the top elite.
There are actually a lot of teachers out there like him. However, when one of the teachers in our district spoke about these types of things during the public forum of a Board of Ed meeting, she was fired ... ahem... "not rehired" is the official phrase.
School system sucks, they literally base someone in their abilities and personality. I remember back in Kindergarten, I was supposed to be in 1st Grade but then I got held back and repeated Kindergarten again (even though I graduated Kindergarten already) because they said I was smart and all but I'm way too "quiet" *smh*
My friend got held back in kindergarten bc he flipped off the teacher-
@@gaffaflaffy lmao
I literally whispered in kindergarten for some reason.
A lot it is miserable people who pray on children. Think of someone who spent their entire lives in school and college it must have been miserable and then to get a job as a kindergarten teacher with measly pay. The society is honestly as miserable as it can get and we wonder why so many people are jaded and commit suicide or become homicidal.
Are you an introvert?
Not to mention all the emotional abuse these kids receive from other kids that is not addressed that will literally last t their whole life.
getting picked on or insulted will last the rest of your life? if someone has such serious problems with their self esteem or emotions, they're probably not fit for society.
it can if its not addressed. See.. why do you feel the need to degrade anybody in particular at all? its the idea that we can just give up on people-even if they're mentally handicapped- this idea... is the source of the vice we have in society- the emotional internalizing. Why do you think america thrived when christian values alone were allowed to flourish in the home? We're talking about the foundations of society... "If someone has such serious problems" then "that society" is not fit for them. Also why multiculturalism doesn't work btw.
Grant OBrien ...
Grant OBrien the reason people have serious problems with their self-esteem is because of the bullies
Grant OBrien So, taking your argument to it's logical conclusion, if you're not fit for society because you're not strong enough to defend yourself from being bullied, both physically and mentally, then you're not even fit for existence and should just drop dead for the sake of society? (Bleep) that definition of Darwinian eugenic society!
Wow. Thank you. Thank you. I thought I was alone. I simply could not take the hypocrisy, so I left my teaching job of 27 years. You really nailed it all in this speech. Thank you again. If I never hear the word rigor and accountability again, it will be too soon.
" If I never hear the word rigor and accountability again, it will be too soon." - that's the problem right there, you hate responsibility.
I've seen the result of american education in the last 20-30 years. People who are directly responsible for that(teachers) should have NO more say in education, their fiasco is costing US and the free world a lot. I understand those terms(rigor/accountability) can be used in a way to force teachers into ideological submission and i don't condone that. However, teachers(generally, i know there are exceptions) should just look at the generations they helped create and, at the very least, resign in shame.
", 2) jump through four years of hoops to become a clear-credentialed teacher"
Oh, poor you :)) I've jumped through hoops for more than 15 years now for my job, even though i have such great experience i don't let a day go by without bettering myself and investing in education. If you consider 4 years of learning some sort of big sacrifice, you have already proven my point. Really, how do you ever get things done as teachers? I mean, you only have 1/3 of year PAID VACATION, when are you going to better yourselves? :))
Ionut Rus So what, you think every single teacher is too lazy to improve? Explain your reasoning.
It was only TWO years for me - -
Although I might have lasted as long as 10 years as a teacher, if I had not lived in California at the time.
Just an example of the dumbing down of America. And it works from the top down - - meaning the universities where teachers get their teaching degrees. The goal of most students at places like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and other universities, is to prove how smart they are to their professors by parroting every word which escapes their mouths, and demonstrate it in each and every so-called academic study or paper which they author. All they want is a certificate proving how "smart" they are. I say it's too little, too late.
Such students have become indoctrinated for life.
Ionut
Please take the responsibility to explain how you arrived at that conclusion
What I have been saying for YEARS!! I stand with you on this, Joshua. This is just plain common sense.
I never let my schooling get in the way of my education. -Mark Twain
😂 I love this quote
This. I hope I can be just like that.
Once I heard that quote, I've been telling everyone when the subject of school comes up.
Am I the only one who thinks that school makes learning not fun because learning isn’t supposed to involve anxiety about living in a box
Rangers2020 no, i feel the same
Agreed, learning can be fun but school shoves everyone into the same box to “learn” things some people’s brains can’t comprehend well, for example give me a math equation and I can solve but put me in art class and I’ll fail, whereas my friend is the exact opposite from me put her in art class and she’ll pass with flying colors but give her math and she gets very frustrated, classes should be able to be chosen by students who want to do them and have fun doing them
Yep. To be honest, I’m in high school, and I don’t care what I remember from this year as long as I can keep my grades up.
And homework. I don’t know a single person that doesn’t hate homework.
pizza for breakfast yeh like the reason we go home is to having a bloody break from work but no they think HOMEwork is helpful. It just makes me nervous to hand in...
Mr. Turdly Bird no, no, he’s got a point
School doesn't require you to think anymore, it requires you to memorize and regurgitate the same information as everyone else
The same as pre 1960s then.
Its all about grades and funding and league tablesand money.
Stop thus ride, I want to get off.
Sad isn't it.
I'm surprise he still has a job. A teacher speaks like that now a days and he gets..."pull in for questioning" and ostracized by peers and administration.
Nah--I talk like that all the time, but I'm old, so they let me. :)
Lol I don’t think the school could afford to let him go. I’m a previous student of his (2009) and I’ll tell you honestly, Mr. Katz is to this day still one of the BEST teachers I’ve ever witnessed in my life.
@@Peach721 It doesn't matter to the schools. Now a days very few admins rather keep a good teacher and they prefer the obedient ones.
Take for example AP classes. Passing rates for the classes are 3-4 times higher that the test passing rates. Meaning kids just get passed anyways, and teachers who are more strict to prepare the students better simply get switched out.
I hope he keeps his post for as long as he wants.
John Shepard as of right now he’s still in the same position at the same school. A family friend of ours works in the same school and has recently told me that he still teaches there :)
Are you kidding, or that out of touch? Every teacher I know will happily tell you how terrible the standardized testing craze, Pearson and all that nonsense is.
What we need to actually learn: *How to pay taxes, Applying for college, Surviving in the wild, Surviving in society*
Schools: Calcite reacts to Hydrochloric Acid
That, and they also need to invest more time than we're given in teaching students how to drive.
Omg i learned that last year wth
How to set goals,how to focus,health and how to follow our interests
Oml
That is not what we need to teach, we need to teach the already standing subjects but make them to standing lessons, in germany as in every 1st world country, you learn to get good grades, but this should not be the case, we should learn for the sake of learning new things, i had a math teacher, that only taught the subject for the sake of getting the best preparation on the test...well more the 1/3 of us failed the test. On the other hand i had a history teacher who was engaged in his subject, he loved it, and he taught it that way, and look at that only one guy failed the test. Look at me now, going to university studying History and Politics.
how school works
1. Wake up *EARLY*
2. Get ready
3. Go to school for 8 hours and get _"Taught"_ useless information you'll forget by the next week
4. Take tests and regurgitate the useless information
5. Go home
6. Regurgitate MORE useless information
7. Go to bed
*REPEAT FOR 12+ YEARS*
You only forget that information if you don't apply it, a lot of things you learn in school can be applied if take the time to look.
0x00FF00 Well, from the sounds of this, their exams and tests replace assignments (e.g. Writing a narrative, recording a documentary, building a stable structure,etc) so they aren't ever told or inspired to apply the information, rather, they just memorise it through long, boring and headache inducing nights, then fill out a test sheet. This means that they can't see any reason to apply the information, unless it sparks their interest or something outside of school requires them to use it.
Useless information? Go watch TV..
Can you multiply on your own after you're shown how to multiply?
Then that's your fault for not practising. You can't blame them for your shortcomings, considering they have to teach this to hundreds of other kids who have a varying ability for mathematics. Teach yourself if you really want to know something.
My parents want me to get all A's in every subject, and I complain when I have a B+ or two, when everyone else is so happy when they finally get a B or B-. So I freak out when I'm confused or don't know the subject, and worry that the grade on one paper will ruin my grade for that class. I just feel stressed out for that one thing itself, and then I live a demanding sport (swimming) and do other sports as well, were I should be one of the best people there. I never feel like I am. Because others gave me standards, I made standards of my own for myself. And I feel like no matter how hard I try, I still won't make it, and see myself as one of the WORST people there.
I know this REALLY of topic, but I needed this off my chest. Sorry.
I'm sorry to hear that and I feel that I can relate to you. Please be care ful and take care of yourself, because what you said sounds like burn out.
Stay strong, buddy!
The problem is that when you eventually start feeling that you will never be good enough you stop trying because you can never really impressed other people. It sounds likely that your parents are doing this with the best of intentions because they love you and want you to do well in life, but it can give you anxiety and erode your confidence for the working world. Perhaps when you leave school it would be good to consider a gap year where you can experience some different kinds of life skills and take the time to find out what is important to you. Best of luck
We got you, don't feel bad!
One of the problems of this world is how highly we hold the acceptance of others. We must all learn to be happy by giving everything our all and being satisfied with that, our best efforts, not what others decide is good enough. And at the end of the day, what's most important is how we talk to ourselves, not how others talk to us. The system is messed up, do not trust it. We all have to work alongside it, but do not trust it as an indication of self worth or true intelligence or ability.
I feel the exact same way. I just don't want to let anyone down. It's that feeling of oppression when everyone looks up to you and you're scared of letting them down. When you get an A+ people would be expecting you to keep getting A+. If you get B or so, people generally won't say anything, but you can feel their disappointment. It's like they're silently demanding you to meet their expectations. You feel like you need to keep up with the standards others have set for you. And the standards you've set for yourself. That's how I feel, anyway.
Maybe it's not them that's demanding anything. Maybe it's myself.
This is amazing.
"So wrapped up in grades and answers that they're unwilling to learn"
The real problem with education in North America is that failure is what is used to motivate students to learn, as opposed to learning for the sake of learning. At the end of the day students are taught to care only about what letter they see on their test paper and therefore have no real desire to learn anything new. If the education system was structured in a way that allowed students to learn without threatening them with failure, then students would actually have a thirst for knowledge and a desire to learn, making school seem like less of a burden.
OK, so please give us just 1 example, anywhere in the world, where students have such high levels of intrinsic motivation that they're willing to do their best & fully apply themselves without any threat of failure! Anyone who says this has absolutely no clue re: human psychology!
Sorry, I actually wish you were right, but that's just not how us lazy selfish humans evolved! You should read up on human motivation theory to know more detail.
@@alexds8452 Finland
Totally agree. Students should learn to love to learn.
@@alexds8452 This is how I learned. I read books from the local library.
@@alexds8452 you talk like a robot
To anyone else who is struggling. I send love and hugs.
Pazzie Anne Knexx k lol this is funny cuz i lay in bed just wanting a hug and be told it’s ok
Modern education in a nutshell
Student : *fails*
School :
• This student has a learning disability
•This student won't be successful in the future
• This student isn't trying hard enough
I mean, no wonder anxiety nowadays is so common. The place where you are supposed to learn, gives you a 'failure' label and tells the parents that the child isn't trying hard enough.
Have people actually thought about how the child actually tries so hard but fails regardless.
Ivan it sucks because there are teachers that when you fail a subject in school will try to understand why you failed and help you succeed next time. But those teachers don’t come very often because that’s not always what they have been told to do.
In second grade I had extreme anxiety attacks
The best one I got was why are you so good in that subject but not this one, urmm because I like that subject, well try harder other wise you fail, I don't care if I fail this class as long as I pass the one I like, well you wont get a job without this class. two classes I am talking about English and physical education, I loved P.E. got a B+ and soon as I left school the teacher was right I couldn't get a job, I had to go to college just to improve my English grade before I could get a job and when you get to that job you don't need the English that they teach you to pass an exam its literally can you speak English and can you write, not once was I pulled up for my punctuation or my grammar in a physical education job. The entire system is broken in every country not just America.
Also, we are forced to learn so much just to forget it next year. It becomes a chore and it just becomes a "work that needs to be done". We have no time for our own interests and for our own lives in general.
It's a clever model as old as time. The system is what is broken and sick. Look at American society and how sick it is, but it upholds itself as infallible. It's just a facade and it's no shock that the ones who sit at the top take all the profit for themselves and do nothing to improve the misery it causes everyone. It's just a way for corruption to prosper and for profit to made in convincing normal people to think that they are broken and need to spend money on more useless solutions to made up problems.
what the hell....why does this video have so very little views when its been up for over a year now. and the room is so empty too! UA-cam shouuld place this video on their homepage in education section. it's vitally important for the future of the states.
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Because it doesn't make money for anyone. Everything in America is about money and who's going to get it. Everything.
It has over half a million views... Is that low?
God is this relatable. I’m getting tested for ADHD tomorrow, and I was diagnosed with severe depression, and a general anxiety disorder last year. I’ve been struggling with those issues for my whole life, and ultimately it’s not down to anyone- it’s simply who I am and the context I live in colliding with each other. My whole family is filled with talented, intelligent people- my parents both got graduate degrees at prestigious colleges, and my dad has a PhD. All of my immediate family are professionals, working extremely hard- good for them, but this meant I had no model of a successful outsider. I grew up believing that not only did I need college to live a life where I wouldn’t panic about affording something better to eat than beans and rice, but also believing I would enjoy college. That it would be the place where I could fully become the person I’m dying to be. After three years wasting money, getting steadily less and less willing to even live, I decided to do something else. I started to notice that even the people who wanted to be professionals, were dreading the day that they graduate. They were all sticking to something that made them hate themselves and treat others poorly for temporary relief. There were obviously many many others that loved their time in college- but among the people I knew, they only continued in the hope things would magically work out. Like they’d been double dog dared to quit, and no way they’d let themselves do that. I got treatment and dropped out of school last year.
All this focus on succeeding like I’m told, has squashed the potential I’ve had in so many others areas. I didn’t paint for five years, I was too stressed to even think about art as something I wouldn’t fail at- even though it’s the only thing I consistently succeed in. I alienated myself from myself in order to be a smidge calmer about how little I wanted to go to school. I stopped myself from being friends with people who weren’t ‘college worthy’ so I wouldn’t catch their ‘failure.’ I grit my teeth through classes where I was bullied by teachers. I suffered through so many classes where I was told I’m worthless for not passing. I stuck with friends who defined me as the person they couldn’t be if they wanted to live a stable, happy life. For years, I convinced myself the only time where I felt respected and fulfilled was when I stuck to a 16 hour schedule of languages, classes, reading, and chores. I didn’t last a month, and being so young, I took that to mean I was never going to have stability and comfort in life.
All of this impacted me to my core, and made me the person who I am. But the negatives of it all continue to inform thought patterns that stop me from pursuing what I know I actually want to do. And I’m a lucky one- there’s so many millions of kids who internalize the messages society, parents, peers give them, and don’t discover a new path until decades later. It’s truly shameful what we do to kids in America. We wring them dry and leave them little to find joy in. Then we continue telling them they’re doing something wrong, and if they just tried ‘this’ instead they’d be better off. Eventually people turn to whatever will just help them get through a day- addictions, drugs, working too hard, abusing and manipulating others. And we act like none of us had a part in any that. Here’s a question: how many people reading this have stood by silently while someone’s been abused? How many times have we given advice that didn’t even help us? How many times in the past year have you assumed homeless persons are just failures, worthless, not even worth a quick hello even if it means uncomfortably denying them charity. These all connect together subtly. We build a context where there is NO way to live lives according to our own definitions of success. Then we adopt society’s version as our own, and wonder what happened to all those passions we used to have. Some of us leave to another place, another country, to build a new life somewhere that might be a different kind of damaging. But for most of us we just have to struggle through and live our lives on American terms, and try to make it our own. Often we don’t recognize it, because to focus on our own long term happiness for once, would be selfish or irresponsible. And that’s the least of it if you have real tangible commitments and responsibilities. Nonetheless it’s admirable that we’ve all gone through something like this, and continued to try making it work for us. Maybe that’s a sign something will change for the better.
The truth is, the society were building at the top, is completely mismatched from the reality those without power live with. We’re all told this story about an abstract version of ourselves, a person that would exist if we just did we were told. But it doesn’t make practical sense for most of us because it’s divorced from who we actually are and want to be.
Very relatable.. im sorry your had to go through a big waste of time and money that only wore you down.
This really resonated with me, thank you for sharing.
I remember I finished highschool at age of 24 yrs this year after 8 year struggle of high school life .thank God am not dead because others told me if they were pinned in my shoes they would have died by drug overdose or poisoning due to academic pressure 😔😔 thanks for listening to my message from 🇰🇪
@@jacobgans9231 Youre welcome man, its good to hear others feel the same
@@salmyrle1920 Thank you very much, and thats an excellent, refreshing take on empathy and autopilot. Sometimes things get to a breaking point, and its a real shame that its almost better for that breaking point to happen sooner rather than later. I hope that your experience (and your upcoming grad degree) will help you find something more tolerable in the near future. Ten years in education takes a dumptruck load of courage and compassion, those skills are rare and hard to learn.
His idea for a home ec class is BRILLIANT
Home ec isnt exactly his idea, its a class that high schools used to have
It did exist, but was undervalued, as mostly women took it
My school has a home ec class and almost everyone in my school want to take it and it’s most kids favorite class because we learn to cook and to do taxes and how to manage time and money, and both girls and boys do it
@@alexandrafol Gosh home economics, and wood crafting classes would be great. Students these days don't get to learn by doing and expirience , it's all books books books. I think that's why these days mostly women finish college, because the books books books system fits their way of quick thinking better, than hands-on work.
@@ivonastrukar4715 Agreed. But this is why it was cancelled to begin with: it was undervalued :-(
God bless this guy. Someone with balls to say the truth. Fuck the school system. It's all a fucking business.
+OhMyBooda AFUCKING MEN! FUCK THE SCHOOL SYSTEM
+Racquel Rose and fuck the medical industry! scam scam scam scam scam
Racquel Rose
Agreed!
#homeschooling when I am a parent
Racquel Rose
Yes me too. Actually since we seem to be on the same page, lets home school OUR kids.
Every parent and every teacher should hear this!
yeah.
Pearson: Hi you just brought 200 dollars textbook but in order to do your homework please pay extra 200 for the access code that will only last few weeks
"I wasn't taught how to pay tax, but I can remember loads of Shakespeare's classics."
~ David from Boyinaband, "Don't Stay in School".
Ayy! Came here from him.
But hey you know Powerhouse of cell now
Lol dont even remember that
I literally broke down into tears one time during my freshman year because I couldn’t remember any of the math on a quiz because I didn’t understand it.
Im in 6th grade (again) and whenever i saw a math test or any test besides history i just teared up. Yes im a bad student but im still so afraid of being a failure
Clown FuckerTM I feel bad for you and I actually relate. I’m a repeat student myself. Repeated 9 and now I’m in 10th
Sad life bro. Test scores doesn't determined your future or whether you get that white piece of paper.
@@serpentzachary1340 it determines what job we get. The world only cares about qualifications not passion. Sometimes I'm not sure if my life is even worth living
Im in 8th grade and during 7th i had weeks where i would just cry at night every night for about a week
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE ALL ALONG!!!!
FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO HAS THE B*LLS TO SPEAK OUT IN THE OPEN!!!
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Byzantine Catholic For Life I know I know
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Thought it said Bills and Bulls before I eventually got to Balls
I wish I had a teacher like this.
Dua 999 I did. It was a husband and wife team. Because of them I'm considered one of the most curious and interesting students ever.
I’ve had one, my Bio teacher, and let me say, I never loved science and now it is one of the most amazing and intriguing subjects to me. Prior to that class, I didn’t like science really, nor did I think I’d ever find a teacher who understood what it meant to be a student like myself, a straight-A. She saw right through and read my anxiety as though it was a book she had devoured times before. Some teachers can change your life.
My middle school science teacher was like this
I'm 2.5 minutes into this video and I feel myself getting glassy-eyed. You can tell this guy has seen this system and culture fail so many students with potential and he is passed the point of frustration. He is genuinely passionate about this topic.
school should just teach kids independently, based on their talent, for some school is too easy, while for some its too hard, but most kids probably will never even use the stuff they were taught, and some might
That would take an insane amount of money, unfortunately. People won't pay for that kind of education because they are still stuck in the industrial age where they believe education can be modeled after the assembly line! :(
@@evecastle538 Deficit spending. If the people demand funding, the money won't the problem, the amount of teachers available will be the problem with this.
Montessori does that, but people don't like it because they don't seat at desks and can dress however they want and they choose their subjects.... Montessori kids, at 4, can dress themselves up, help with small house tasks, at 6 they can help cook, even handle childproof knives, imagine what they can do at 15, 20, 30, 40...
Ben Dover... nice name... Heh...
I think we should be taught the basics in like English, math, science, etc. But we should not be forced into the advanced stuff of things we don’t like.
I disagree that their education should be based on their talent. What happens when say they are really good at art, but want to be a musician but is not great at making music yet?
And it takes to much time to teach every child independently. We’d have to have an insane amount of teachers to do that.
Everybody who points out that its been four years since this was posted and nothing has improved, I would like to point out that John Holt wrote in the mid 60s that we needed much less standardized testing and that students rarely remembered or could apply what little they may have learned. These problems are much older than 4 years.
Yeah.
Rudolf Steiner, over 100 years ago, wrote that unless we educate the mind, the feelings and the will (head, heart and hands) were are just making students numb and apathetic.
That's how much power the big money corporations wield. Now, it's become about "privatization," "school vouchers," and "school choice." Betsy DeVos is the Sec. of Ed., but neither she nor her kids ever went to PUBLIC schools. Moreover, she has less education than the average modern schoolteacher. She's got a helluva lot more money, though, with which she bought her way into the position.
Jay Campbell apparently Aristotle made a similar quote.
“Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all”
common core is the most idiotic thing ever; they do not measure your actual skills they put you on a hierarchy of "proficient" or "below standards". School (as being a 9th grade student) is just a cluster of teachers continuously NOT TEACHING, I find myself taking large amounts notes but not retaining any of the information for tests even when told to study. I find myself enjoying my metal class and math; the teachers do not understand students thoroughly, thus causing students to feel like robots as the teacher just rambles without actually giving students time to ask questions. In my geography class since the 2nd day of school, I have taken at least a full page of notes while the teacher just constantly sits at her desk and whenever she hears the slightest whisper unleashes herself as if the student were interrupting her important speech. Oh yeah she isn't talking at all about things related to the class, we walk in and she says open to page so and so and copy everything. As if this will help us in anyway shape or form. Another problem I find in these classes is the attitude given when a student raises there hand and disagrees or has something to say that doesn't agree with what she is trying to shove through our now (by 9th grade) brainwashed heads. I find it happening to me almost daily, I will disagree with a teacher and instead of her/his trying to prove her point she/he decides to try and embarrass me. These teachers use there high status to manipulate and embarrass us without taking our opinion into consideration.
Yes, one of the biggest faults of our 'education system' is who we hire to teach. We find a mix of passionate and power hungry, exploitive people. We then drive out any passionate teacher with low wages and unfair treatment, and the only ones who remain are those who are only working in a school building to prey on children one way or another.
Vincent, I summerize these actions as a Dictatorship. Personally, I am concerned that the children may lose our Republic due to getting used to a Dictatorship. I think this adds a second problem to this CORE problem.
My brother's science teacher (he's in 6th grade) has recently been telling his class to just open to page whatever and take notes. He tells our parents, and they say that, it's how college is so you need to get used to it. (around those lines) But I don't find it useful either to just copy down a whole page to learn, what exactly? We aren't the ones planning the lesson for the day, we don't know what to learn from our textbooks, we don't know what's useful and what isn't. The teacher is supposed to be TEACHING, not telling people to copy their textbooks.
Makena Smith As a full-time college student, don't worry, college isn't like that at all. Most professors are quite engaged and knowledgeable, hence how they got to that level. The ones who would try to get away with something like that can't, because you're paying good money to be there.
Laura Dawn Cannon thanks for that, It's reassuring to know that
17 minutes of zero fillers, zero pauses and almost zero stutters, this is a damn excellent speech.
I see the laughs and smiles as his way to distract himself from the frustration that he is looking at his passionated subject being brutally butchered and deteriorated while himself cant do much to help.
It's kinda sad that it's been 5 years and nothing has even changed.
It's not Wednesday My dudes **100*
Its gotten worse
It really is. The current pandemic only highlights these problems. The NACAC is telling college board to not test the SAT online in the fall, and they are not backing down. Why? Money. It's widely known that online testing-AP, SAT, or otherwise- contributed to the education gap and many of the problems this guy was speaking about. Yet they still want money 🤨
Add another onto that it's only gotten worse with all that's happening in the world right now
This guy should be in educational administration.
yes , all this nonsense from college need to stop. knowing 56 different genders is not going to help me with my major
He would never be hired. He does not subscribe to the indoctrination agenda. Unless, he is somebody's nephew of course.
Even if he was someone's nephew, his potential policy changes would be denied before they even got the chance to be on paper... because they're bad for 'business'. Ah, I lament on the ability to make meaningful change within a broken, corrupted system...
I went to high school in the fifties. We had 6 grades in every year starting with the senior high school followed by the junior high school. Senior high was where the professionals were expected to come from, junior high, depending on the students ability was where the tradesmen, truck drivers, shop assistants etc.came from. everyone from top to bottom had to study reading writing and arithmetic, from there other subjects were added as you moved up the grades. The best part of the system was everyone found their own level and you could move up or down through the grades if you were coping or struggling, result being students could move at their own pace without being slowed down by less competent students and the lower grades could study without feeling embarrassed by their inability to grasp the concept of the lesson as quickly as the higher grade students.
The schooling system was actually better in the past than it is now?? That's just sad that we're going backwards...
@@naritruwireve1381 that truly is a bruh moment
That's both incredible and depressing. But if we combined something similar to that with our much better understanding of mental health and learning disorders, could we 'fix' school? Students able to pace themselves as needed?
@@mathormeth8897 You know what else is a bruh moment? Christine Mitchell is between 84 and 92-ish years old. Either she had help from a caretaker (that includes family members), is an extremely patient senior citizen, or lying about their age. I'm willing to bet its the 1st one.
@@naritruwireve1381 It's evolving, but backwards.
my science teacher doesn’t even explain to us. she literally puts the work on the board then goes to the back to eat or something. really amazing teacher, huh?
Have two teac&er that were so nice coach cole and coach wailliams my history and back-up science teacher not only did we learn we had fun
My physics teacher had zero interest in the subject. She just taught us. I lost all the interest in the subject because of her. By the way, I became interested in physics because of my previous teacher..
She likes to eat.
I remember more about science from my own curiosity and UA-cam than my entire 9 years of school so far and I'm a strait A student. :( U.S. education needs to change.
lol same
That is because schools teach kids to memorize facts for a test, not for life or anything useful really. Everything that is useful in life is learned from our own curiosity, for the most part.
HEY Vsauce, Michael here. Where is your education? Well, it's right here on my channel.
Straight*
@Ark _Kanto Spelling = All of education... ok
I grew up in an environment filled with verbal abuse, sadness and stress from the ages of five to eighteen, and this was the overarching theme in my life in which I defined myself. I was and still am a very sensitive person, and it stunted me. I was told that I was a failure as a small child when I did not pass a test, and I believed it. So I continued to fail, my home environment still raging on and distracting me through school. I was slower in social development, and I could barely focus in the classroom. Grades defined me. In a school filled with wealthy, elite children heading to Harvard, I was considered a failure at 16. My life, in the education systems eyes, was over. No one cared that I went home to a place with a sadness so thick it hit you at the door. They cared that I couldn’t remember the proper sentence structure of a phrase in Spanish.
I went to college despite all of this, thinking that it would be vastly different, and I would sit in class every day and watch eager hands answer meaningless questions, the professors always trying to make us “hirable.” Where was the curiosity? We were learning out of fear, not love. I ended up dropping out recently because of this, deciding to self educate and start my business of gown and clothing design. I am so profoundly happy, and although I still feel the hateful eye of the school system and it’s cold hand on my shoulder, telling me that failure is my name, I can shrug it off now and continue to grow as an imaginative, artistic and intelligent person. I’m learning to climb the tree the way I was meant to. I so appreciated this, it was beautiful and I could not agree more. I believe that our young people could change the world if we simply taught them to love learning, (and learning what they are interested in for that matter), instead of teaching them to fear what will happen if they don’t.
H M “We were learning out of fear, not love.”
This is an incredibly moving and poetic post. I wish I could save it to show someone in the education industry. H M you are fighting the good fight!! You’re amazing!!
wow! your story is so inspiring. keep strong and may God bless you.
Too bad his delivery had to be a tad rushed to fit the time frame...so it is in our short attention span world and 20 minute TED talks. This guy is dead on. Should have gotten a standing ovation at the end because he nails it over and over again, point after point.
The problem is not a low attention span. People with a low attention span do not even waste 20 minutes on things that do not interest them. The issues Josh raises deserve greater scrutiny and research -- but if the point does not get conveyed in 20 minutes, it's the speaker's fault, not the audience's fault. Maybe we should devise a test to see if people who watch youtube videos are applying enough logical rigor and hold the video authors accountable! (just kidding)
It's really sad that this is from 2014 and the school system seems to have only gotten worse. :(
You can’t judge a fish by it’s ability to climb a tree, but I feel like I can’t even swim.
then become a frog and walk on land
Continuing the analogy, the fruit on the tree are not the only fruit there are. There's fruit on the surface of the water, under the water, and even on land. Climbing trees is for people who WANT to.
@@livethefuture2492 That's the point of this speech, then, isn't it?
@@livethefuture2492 What field?
That's what the fish being judged feels like. Like it's not good for anything
Well stated, Josh. When leaving public education as a school psychologist, I was asked to explain my decision to head in another direction. My response: If you can show me a school policy that was developed solely for the student and not for the convenience or welfare of the organization I'll stay. If you will allow me to oppose special education for a student who has clearly not had the opportunity or benefit of an uninterrupted academic experience I'll stay. If you would allow teachers to engage in what they were trained to do, and not require them to use boilerplate curriculum that has no external validity I'll stay. You're going to tell me that you can't, which is a perversion of the truth. What you should tell me is that you won't, but that would be self-incriminating. So, if you wouldn't mind, give me the forms I'm supposed to sign so I can get out of here and take a shower.
+Punk Rock Psychology; SD Reeder, Ph.D. "If you would allow teachers to engage in what they were trained to do,
and not require them to use boilerplate curriculum that has no external validity I'll stay. You're going to tell me that you can't, which is a perversion of the truth."
Evidence to back up that comment about external validity? Not antagonising - just curious.
Wait--punk rockers shower?
mackhomie6 *cough .. ad hominem
+Evil Snail He knows that. He just wants further explanation for the sake of learning, as do I really. It sounds like an interesting experience.
As a teacher myself, I can add my two cents, ha. Most schools (at least public schools) use particular curricula for every grade. This is because public schools, in order to remain in operation, must exhibit high performance rates on standardized tests, tests which are informed by state standards of education.
Now, there is some freedom in classes that are non-tested, such as dual-credit or AP (although AP classes still tailor to the respective AP exams, obviously), but for the most part, teachers are held accountable for teaching the prescribed curricula. As to the "external validity" of certain curricula, I'd say that's relative since some concepts and ideas are more practical than others in our daily lives. But teachers are certainly afraid to go off-script out of fear of hurting their test scores--to say nothing of provoking students thanks to misconstrued political statements or notions that go against the norm.
I used to think education was a glorious and wonderful thing. But now in middle school, I feel like school is only programming people and turning them into robots. Whenever people do bad on tests, people blame themselves for not having the ability to learn. I had a teacher once in math, and she wasn't a very well teacher, and it killed my hope for learning math. So I hope for a better education system, without SBAC.
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Education is a wonderful thing indeed, but it's school that's killing us. I'm with you 100% though.
TigerbubbleProductions Yes, Same my Math teacher didn’t pay attention to Students who really needed help like I missed some days and he assumed I knew everything and he sent other kids who understood math out to get help with it, I learned half the Math in That School year
we do need to seriously rethink several aspects of our current education system, it under performs for most kids in elementary and then over demands in middle school. if we really wanted ALL children to be as useful and productive memebers of society, we would basically give kids 5-6 yrs of "gifted" education, then break them out at middle schoool to explore applied feilds of study and then at about age 14-15, bring them back into a classroom setting for some of the day/week and continue to let them have a more self directed but supervised learning path. this would cost more, both in staffing and in effort, but the rewards would be mond boggling. instead we have a frustrated stratified system of babysitting and college prep, depending on where you are slotted befroe you can tie your shoes.
Me too this is what I miss about the school system in my old country.
Education is a wonderful and glorious thing. I love to learn. But school strips away the love to learn. Also it’s not the teachers. I hear teachers constantly complain about the curriculum they’re supposed to teach. It’s the curriculum that’s the problem. Everyone loves to learn but they don’t know it because they associate learning with school. Everyone is born a scientist. Exploring the world, learning, and experimenting with it. But then school happens. Don’t associate school and learning. Being a junior in high school I haven’t taken a single physics class yet. But I love space, I want to be an astrophysicist. I could nerd out with you about space for hours. But none of it came from school. Most of it through UA-cam. Everyone loves learning about something whether it’s space, psychology, music or writing. Don’t let school beat that out of you. I have 1 more year left in public schooling and my love to learn is still going strong but my hate for public school is rising still.
I spend a lot of my free time learning about things that interest me. I love to come up with ideas on how to better things and I can express those ideas however I want. At school, it feels like that part of my brain has shut off due to my anxiety of getting something wrong.
There is no shame of being wrong in life there is only shame it not wanting to learn more in life.
School destroyed my curiosity, Now I am not longer feel alive even though I am still here.
Oh my God. I've never seen someone articulate these points so well, and manage to tie them all together at the same time.
Joshua Katz for President
Preach.
If not that, then for Department of Education.
He's too qualified, he'd never get in.
YESSSSSSS
Or head of the department of education
I really could have used a home economics course. A heads up for the confusion of real life would have helped me navigate this mess. And, I don't believe I ever understood what critical thinking was. I understood fear very well, and had a hard time finding the courage to innovate because of it. 7 years after graduating high school I now believe I have discovered what critical thinking looks like. Now I can face a challenge and say, " someone has done this before, I will go research what has worked and develop a plan to do it myself" But to do that I have to face how afraid and incompetent I feel. Standardized tests drill into our heads that there is only one right answer and you should never innovate your own answer. So true critical thinking is not possible using standardized tests. All that is to say, I completely agree with what this man is saying
Absolutely. You said it. (Also, I feel like I’ve seen you somewhere on UA-cam before. Nice to see a fellow Sonic fan! ^^)
@@wolfiethehedgehog3900 sonic fans are the best
I am being train and educated to be an educator at this moment and this toxic culture is implemented still, in our education system. It has been more than 6 years since they've released this talk and there are hardly any changes.
Thank you so much for saying this. I'm going into my junior year of high school which is considered the most important year of high school and all that we ever hear is get good testing scores or you won't have a good future. It's summer time and kids are studying for their SATs. A lot of my friends complain about how school is failing them. School isn't teaching them things that they could use in the real world or things that they love to do or would love to learn about. All we learn about is the common core curriculum. PARCC just got introduced to my high school and it's another money making machine created by private organizations that don't even see how it affects us. It drives me nuts. Something needs to be done about the education system.
sbrox11 i just remembered when i was in junior high school and i dont understand our lesson in math then i whispered to myself "wtf will do with this when i grow up" then my teacher heard it. she called my parents😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ernest Bautista yeah school had me constantly questioning my own self worth because i cant bring myself to care enough to memorize irrevelant useless formulas and facts and so i didnt do well on tests. I concluded later on that high school was trying to encourage obedience and weed out independant thought.
I was one of the lucky school districts that took one look at PARCC and tossed it to the side. I am also going to be a junior, and standardized testing is making me doubt my sanity and my intelligence... whee...
"Hey I want to be an engineer!"
Teacher responds
" today we will learn about the guy who sailed the ocean blue in 1492"
sbrox11 ugh I hate PARCC
Me: How do I apply for a job?
School: Take this recorder
Me: How do I do taxes?
School: HOT. CROSS. BUNS.
that actually gave me memories
Same. Yep.
Best comment EVER 😆 yes I remember that
LMBOOOO...
im dead
I go to a private school and it has art, but not in the way you think, instead of discovering a student's passion, stimulating his or her creativity... no, it's not that, not that at all in fact, it's the same as any other subject, just... y'know, remember this artist and something based off of his/her work, it's basically just "art history".
Ah the brutal dictatorship of "facts."
Ash I *hate* art history, it’s not art, it’s just looking at someone’s else’s art and copying it.
I'm an art history student with a passion of making art of my own. I love looking at the old masters, theorising what they might have felt and meant with the works of art they created. I love being able to see the development of individual creativity and the creativity of movements and groups throughout history. It's fascinating to see what artists pulled inspiration from and to find that inspiration in their work.
All of that being said, this is not art and should not be taught as "art class". Creating your own art and learning to draw, sculpt, write etc. is vastly different from art history and it's wrong they teach art and art history interchangeably, they're not. I love both fields so much, and both offer inspiration for your own creativity, but they are too different to be lumped together as one field of study.
And then when you actually do art the teacher corrects you and tells you you've done something wrong and that you should draw it/make it in a certain way
Ew
Let’s be honest, how many of us even remember anything we learned in highschool?
Ugh, I'm in 7th grade and I'm not sure what happened when I had science class back in 6th tbh.
Im about to go into 8th grade and i dont remember a thing i learned in 7th
I homeschooled for the last two years of my high school year, and I literally just googled the answer to everything. Literally not a single thing will do anything for me in life. Like, will me knowing where a semicolon should go actually make money? Probably not, seeing as I’ve literally never used one in my 18 years of life.
i dont even remember what i ate today but MITOCHONDRIA IS THE POWER HOUSE OF CELL
@@PeRRXX Okay, but that's just basic English. You could literally look up the context of when to use a semi-colon. It's important to understand the basics of what you use for everyday life. Things like chem and math however, are not used for everyday life, unless your passion needs those as steps to becoming great at your passion. Basically, learn the basics of what you use for everyday life, you don't need to learn everything.