I completely agree with Miranda as to the “death” of a person who transitions, etc. My child, a daughter, has “died” in a sense while “feeling” she is a male, and I’m “grieving” as the mother who was left behind, except that the person who “died” is still “alive” and is apparently embracing this “rebirth” into a male without allowing family and friends a proper memorial service to mourn the girl that “died”. The breakup of a marriage (or any relationship really) is also like a death too, as the people still exist... but is quite different from transitioning to the opposite sex (and I am not saying “gender” because they’re confusing sex and gender aren’t they?) as it’s utilizing medicalization to gain the superficial attributes of the opposite sex. And they’re (medical professionals) are ruining bodies and lives. Yes, opportunism sharks exist.
I think that it makes more sense to say gender transitioning. Sex is what is biological and immutable; whereas gender is conceptual and performative. It is impossible to transition to the opposite sex.
I think this statement is false. You put " grieving" in quotes. Grieving people don't do that. Moreover, while I believe you may be female I don't think you have children, or you would have at least added some hope for reconciliation in that screed. I don't know your motivations, but I think they are dark.
I know. That, and his statement that the trans ideology movement is deeply homophobic & rotten to the core were 2 of my fave lines in a great interview full of memorable statements.
I enjoy Miranda's viewpoint on this a lot. This is one of my favourite interviews so far. I have been waiting for you to have Miranda on. Some of what you spoke about really resonated with me. I was put on antidepressants at 13 and a half by a very well-meaning general practitioner and left unsupervised on them for a decade. I later found out that the medical community decided this particular drug shouldn't be given to people under 18 and was for short term use for people who had PTSD. I truly believed I had a 'chemical imbalance' and needed this medication but now I feel like it stunted my emotional and sexual maturity. This medicalization of existential angst was part of my concern (admittedly there were many other concerns) when a significant portion of my friendship group came out as trans or was aggressively pro-trans. It's been a rough 2 years after having been branded a 'terf' but these interviews give me hope that one day we can evolve our collective and individual thinking around this topic.
Izzy Carter excellent point! Can I recommend reading Johann Hari, lost connections. it’s about the over prescribing of anti depressants and the research as to why this is so negative for the individual and society as a whole. I just finished it and it was a really good read.
Izzy Carter here he is on rogan and lays out the basics of his point. Good interview Joe is a little annoying at times but interesting stuff. ua-cam.com/video/DQUgd9GQtoQ/v-deo.html
So well put! That autogynephiles think that being a woman is about feeling sexy. It just outright shows how LITTLE they know about the actual every day female experience.
It varies among that community. I've read the stereotypical sexy, also easy, demure, subservient, oppressed. It seems each individual forms their own stereotype and reflects that behaviour, often treating women in that way as well as desiring such treatment for themselves. Read some stories of trans widows. I have to be honest, I am far more comfortable with HSTS than AGP. I would take the word of someone who had worked through and de transitioned over that of someone who still wears the woman cloak for comfort.
@@okupofemstra4934 Men and man is in the title , Humans ,but I get you're point equally how can a Woman understand what its like to be a Man mostly they don't
@@88Vicky Morgane Ogre is truly a POS. Anyone who would support the closing & vandalism of a rape relief shelter for women b/c they don't want people with dicks around traumatized women who were victims of male violence has absolutely no empathy & is misogynistic & entitled af. He also was instrumental in gathering the mob who helped to shut down Jenn Smith's presentation on the UBC campus in Canada.
@Honeysuckle Blossom Ogre is definitely NOT "sane" or "level headed" in any way. I discovered that in a long conversation with him. He is an AGP 100% creep
Ben, this is the best series on the Internet. Such important dialogues, these should be used as CE courses for all in the social services, including healthcare. Thank you, and I thank your guests. ♥️👍🏼
I have a lot of respect for this guy, he is honest about his world view, brave, and respects women a lot more than all the LGBT - feminist activists who act like they care about women while screaming and terrorising any woman that disagrees with any of their views. And this is SO refreshing he doesn't pretend he is actually woman, by completely alternating his outer appearance in a way that doesn't allow women to have a unique self determination. He try to take over the female identity. One remark - men don't know how a female feels. They may *think* they know, they may not feel comfortable being who they are for some reason, but you can't know you feel like a women, for the simple reason you've never been one.
24:00 onward -- You're very close, here, to the concept of sexual complimentarity. Sexual complimentarity is an durable (and respectably effective) concept which has been recognized in Western thought for a very, very long time -- it was, really, largely unchallenged until post-modernist thinking threw out of the concept of objective truth, and therefore all other concepts that refer to objective true. Sexual complimentarity (among other ideas) holds that it is objectively true that a male is immutable and NOT a female (ie, one essence excludes the other), and vice versa (ie, there is an essence to "male" and "female" which are exclusive of each other yet totally complimentary to each other). Physically, the complimentarity of the sexes is demonstrably provable through their unitive ability to procreate. This is so obvious to us that we might overlook its lesson -- it is, literally, only through this complimentarity that humanity continues. Male and female really do exist. It is bizarre that this has become controversial, but considering that some (but not most) people these days reject the idea of sexual complimentarity as having any importance for anything (from marriage to child-rearing to personal relationships), I suppose it shouldn't be surprising. As Meghan Murphy said, "men are not women"!
I literally found your channel today and I haven’t done anything but listen all day long (I swear I have a job, just recovering at home. 😂). I’m FASCINATED! Miranda is so brave! What I find mind-boggling is that the trans community have always been shy and quiet and the new leftist activity has made them come out of anonymity to defend women and real trans people. You just see it everywhere you go. It’s like having me fight in a suit of armor (can’t fight back to save my life).
Thank you both. BB I continue to tune in as the sensical calmversations bring relief in these times. Thanks Miranda for sharing your clear, straightforward insights. Hard won no doubt.
I agree -- maybe this is why Yardley states that perhaps gender dysphoria is not a stand-alone mental event. Dr Paul McHugh (retired, formerly of John Hopkins) considers gender dysphoria to be an assumption disorder (with comorbidity), because the individual (as you point out) MUST make certain assumptions about the self which he or she literally has not and cannot experience. To what extent any particular individual then relies on gender stereotypes would vary -- but, since they quite literally MUST assume certain things in order to develop a desire to obtain them or a sorrow at not having them (and thus distress or discomfort with not having them), these individuals must be basing their ideas on something more than their perceptions....which would suggest that stereotypes, indeed, do play a big role. Additionally, once the person determines that he or she is "in the wrong body," then the person must simultaneously assume that he or she is absolutely correct in his or her personal analysis -- that is, they have to assume that they are infallible. So, an infallible decision is made based upon assumptions about a reality which cannot be experienced.
@@L35inColorado Miranda is much more self aware and has done therapy. Denial can be a useful temporary defence mechanism but it's ultimately unhealthy.
@@Bingewatchingmediacontent I guess what I mean is, having certain biology brings with it different experiences. As far as being a woman I am talking about puberty, menstruation, pregnancy and the innate urge to become pregnant, menopause, and post-menopause. These are not "stereotypes" - this is nature. Without these things, we would not exist at all. Feminists have fought being associated with stereotypes that society deems female - like playing with dolls, wearing make-up, wearing dresses, and choosing "female" careers - which is how men who "feel" like women cite as ways that they "felt" like a female from an early age. I am merely pointing out that having the urge to wear dresses and put on make-up is NOT what inherently makes us women - if that were the case, LOADS of women would not be considered women at all.
It is definitely a stereotype that has been created - plenty of women take on DIY /physical tasks that were previously thought of as traditionally 'male' many years ago. There really is no one way to be a woman - we are all different individuals, not all teetering around on stilettoes behaving like helpless creatures afraid to break a nail ! Some of us are just grateful to squeeze in personal care basics and have clean clothes to put on in between childcare or work. Ditto there is no one way to be a man, regardless of sexuality. I think we went wrong years ago by not thoroughly investigating causes and treatments of gender dysphoria, offering extreme physical solutions instead and permitting sex to be 'legally' changed. I am sure that scientists and surgeons were excited to pioneer such groundbreaking techniques and perhaps make a name for themselves. We are now reaping what we sowed as a society. I appreciate the frankness of this interview and the campaigning that Miranda does. It sits at odds with my dislike of him sporting feminine curves in the same way I dislike transmen who use hormones or get surgery to imitate male characteristics. Just because something is possible, it does not make it the best route to travel. Dress how you want but don't expect others to see you as you want them to. We shouldn't steal and cheapen biological truths from each other's bodies. We are designed to compliment one another. ☯
Been meaning to watch this for a while...what a fantastic interview and Miranda Yardley is a breath of fresh air. So honest and direct, that's one of things missing from the trans movement, honesty. Thank you Benjamin and Miranda. 🙂
Except... That's not how a large portion of trans MtF people actually are. Like, at this point I do makeup maybe once every other month for like a special outing or something. Otherwise after being on my hormones for a while my body and face have mostly gotten to a point where I just look female, which is the objective from the very beginning. To be able to be perceived and recognized as female just by perspective alone. The thing you're referring to here, and what they referred to a lot in this seems to be more relevant to Autogynephiles in particular, to which I'd say it's massively important to distinguish people who are just "autogynephilic" versus a genuine transexual (such as myself). I didn't transition just to "get off to myself". I transitioned so that I could actually find peace for the first time in 20 years with my In pursuit of that before it became too late. 'Cause let's be honest, if I spent like 45 - 50 years developing with male hormones and everything, by the time I transitioned, It'd be nearly impossible for me to be passable as female to most in public. I transitioned so that I could actually see a happy future for myself and restabilize my rapidly declining mental state once it really started hitting me after years of repressing myself that my body was starting to turn into that of a "young man" and that only kept perpetuating my dysphoria more and more exponentially.
Much respect, Miranda - I’ve been following you for a while; love your work. Savvy, intelligent, thoughtful, self aware and kind - as well as amazing use of the Socratic method when you are the interviewer. ❤️
yaeh, i've been waiting for this! my favorite youtube centrist and my favorite youtube transperson! you are my cooking background noise - brunch will be great!
Miranda saying that a lot of the transgender activists have no self-awareness reminds me of the old American Idol auditions where people who were clearly mentally unwell and deluded would be completely convinced they WERE singers and deserved fame and fortune AS great singers when they were absolutely talentless. It was awkward and gross because we were aware and all KNEW they were not well whereas now we live in a Twilight Zone world where "experts" and people in lab coats are forcing us to accept this "there's no sex" delusion. Imagine Simon Cowell being FIRED for not accepting and letting through one of these tone-deaf wonders because "I am a singer", don't believe your lying ears, but here we are.
Wow I have been watching your videos Benjamin and what a surprise to see this! Miranda writes on this subject extremely well. And it's true he is hated. I posted something positive about him yesterday and got my ass whipped by sister GC feminists.
Wonderful.....wonderful...wonderful.....a lot of who we are goes back in time probably to t he first manifestation of consciousness .....so far more complex than switching a button on and off.....which is why women cannot reconcile Trans women to being a woman....it's partially the predator detection platform we have inherent in us...I think your so amazingly informative and reasoned....
I listened to this twice in a row & will be sharing it. Thank you to both of you! I wanted to ask you some questions that anyone can answer: 1) What does "past peak trans" mean? 2) I'm still a bit confused about how Miranda said he knew that being a transexual was right for him but says there's no such thing as having the wrong body or something to that effect. Could someone please clarify Miranda's position on this??
This trans individual is quite sensible in many ways, especially in recognizing the "death" of an old identity. Which not only effects the individual, but those around that individual. An recognizing that the focus and many of the new goals of trans /transitioning individuals, become about one's SELF. An that there is quite literally a "death" of the "old identity," an of their interests, personality and social or family/friendship rules of their identity that others have gotten use to. I also found this (hosts) view of this and of those transitioning, comparable to the "death" and "rebirthing" of and in Christian ideology, an the fact that this concept is so deeply embedded in Western culture. If the psychological phenomena between transgenderism, being much more prevalent in recent times and in the advent of medical procedures allowing for these transitions to go on. If this isn't a deeply rooted reason or driving factor behind the choice of transitioning individuals, to do so. Which I would assume and believe most studies back up, the majority of trans individuals on average being atheists. I find that an interesting assertion and possibility, an would be curious/an again assume that a transitioning or transitioned individual WERE Christian and small percentage who may be. I would be interested to hear THEIR opinion and view if such concept, an would think that THEY may more thrown off and complexed/curious of this concept. Which this individual didn't entertain too much, an NOT saying or assuming that this is at all necessarily the case. Although it MAY play a roll and have a deeply rooted level of psychological effect in reality, perhaps with certain individuals more then others. But this would be a hard thing to prove or even recognize for the majority, if not for ANY individual being that the concept and religious ideology IS so deeply and unconsciously embedded in the minds of EVEN everyone including non religious and atheist individuals. But very interesting hearing the views and support of what are typically seen as "anti" gay/trans ideologies and concepts. As this individual has said themselves, the views that often quite fact based that this person supports are seen as very unsupportive and even "hateful" in general let alone amongst a trans individual themselves. In the eyes of most gay/trans LGBTetc, an those who typically support these individuals and the movement. Which by those who are NOT apart of it, are often blindly followed by whatever the LGBT (gay/trans) crowd themselves support. Which is why this individual describes themselves as an extremely "hated" trans individual, because of things like recognizing their own biological genetic sex for what it is "Scientifically." Even though and when THIS individuals views are actually MORE logically based and scientifically backed.
I am similar to Miranda except I am not an activist ,its hard to fully understand the "transitional process" but unfortunately I allowed myself to go down a path that was brought about by a combination of factors , mainly I was or possibly still am a disenfranchised male who couldn't resolve or work out my position in society my relationship with women , it all ended tragically when I seen a way to empower myself which was I am really a woman so went down that path, if you have surgery etc when that happens its al;most impossible to get back, so now I am in state of perpetual depression however leading a fairly successful life, oh forgot to mention autism, biggest criticism i have is that I was allowed by my own stupidity, I campaigned for it to have gender reassignment surgery, I really like a lot of people have never had adequate psychiatric evaluation.I have just blasted those words out quickly whilst listening to Miranda , hope it makes some kind of sense ? Please tell me .
So you're really hurting from the decisions that you have made in your life as far as a transgender woman? And having perpetual depression I can understand that! I'm a straight woman however, I have such an interest in gender dysphoria for some reason or another! I don't like seeing people being misled or taken advantage of in any way! My best friend is going through this with her daughter who was all girly girl at sixteen she told her mom she wanted to be a boy! I guess that would be called onset GD? Her daughter does have autism... high functioning autism and also underline mental issues! Perhaps you can open a channel to talk about it! The more people that speak up and tell their stories the better it is! I believe it needs to be told! I wish you the best I wish you happiness most of all I wish you find the Peace within you!!! ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻🤟🏻
@@winros Yes from time to time my life has been a nightmare I believe the Gender Change is a manifestation of childhood trauma generally the Trans community would not like my opinions. Yes depression comes and goes regularly I don't think i have had or am likely to have an adequate psychiatric evaluation,in some ways the self Id idea might be good idea if you consider that people wont have to go through surgery, the recent very public case in Scotland demonstrates that a person can transition and then land up in the "wrong" prison . I did what i did for a number of reasons , probably main issue I had was dealing with toxic Female relatives including my Mother also Toxic ex and difficulties managing relationships with my children, turned out to be a disaster , I reckon your friend will have to sit tight and relax as she is in a tricky situation with her daughter , the thing is I cant see the NHS wanting to spend money on Gender transitions, a lot of virtue signalling by Politicians , I hope her daughter eventually realises that transition is a very basd idea, any form of surgery is . i was diagnosed with Asperger s and ADHD. I have got a You Tube channel go have a look although II tend to avoid talking about trans stuff although sometimes my feelings slip out unexpectedly. Ok thanks not sure I ever will but i am grateful for the kind words and I will carry on enjoying the fresh air , getting out and about .
I am really glad that i decided to view this. I nearly passed it over. It gave me a lot to think about. It was also interesting to hear someone voice the same things that I have. I don't equate transition to death, I equate it to birth; giving birth to a whole new self, thereby leaving the old person behind. Which is why I think it is a decision that should be considered with some amount of gravity.
What a strange and interesting conversation, I think it's valuable that an individual has risen up from the cesspool that had become a supposedly good collective of people. But I think the sole idea that we are (or at least I am) celebrating this, makes me know how screwed the whole movement is. It's not easy for me to put down Blanchard's theory, knowing the results that we are all witnessing around... Great content, please keep it up, cheers from Argentina.
Fabulous questioning Mr Boyce. We still don't get a huge insight into who or what Miranda is though do we. S/he avoids a lot, which is their prerogative of course. What exactly has Miranda transitioned to? In what way has she transitioned or in what way is she transsexual exactly? How has Miranda's transition helped her/him - why did transitioning make her less 'awkward' or was that the 20 years of counselling that did that? Lots of contradictions as well which I found interesting. On the one hand transition helped them, on the other hand transition is cast as a terrible thing that no one should have to go through. Sexuality is described (in 'other' autogynephiles) as being this shameful cycle of crossdressing and masturbating which is alleviated by removing testosterone and possibly their penis, removing their sexual self and leaving them in a more peaceful happy place; yet on the other hand when talking about Jazz 'sexuality is what makes us human'. I do get a sense that there is a lot of anger still there, and I don't think it is simply just anger about children transitioning. There is displacement defence. It feels as though it's coming from another place. I also think sexual orientation, AGP and gender identity can coexist as separate and not always mutually exclusive spectrums (spectra?). Interesting discussion anyway will watch more of your stuff.
Edit…Anne Laurence? Why haven’t I heard of her until now? I love a fellow gobshite! (That’s a compliment by the way) I’m spending too much time on Twitter trying to shut up two very loud & obnoxious Canadians up! A semi win, 1 is in Twitter time out! I’ll shut up & watch now…did say I was a gobshite 😂 my trade Union boss used to lovingly call me a bolshy bitch & a gobshite…almost makes me emotional 😂
I love this series!!! So insightful and interesting. You are a great liaison for the people with these lifestyle experiences to be able share with the world.
An aim of humanistic counselling is to develop an internal rather than external locus of self evaluation and to close the gap between a sense of an ideal and real self. Affirmation undermines this basis, and is more like coaching.
@@MirandaYardleyYT ua-cam.com/video/z4RYl75zdMY/v-deo.html William Malone discusses affirmative, accommodative and therapeutic *gender* counselling. The latter got ken zucker ousted.
His whole relationship with his mother was taken off the table of discussion. Our relationship with our first primary role models is crucial in every way that we mentally and physically develop, especially in countries with bureaucracies that are increasingly enforcing medicalization. Enforced medicalization is not just happening with the mass media driven sociopolitical phenomenon of transgenderism. That being said, he's very brave to go against the tidal wave of the transgender movement, and speak out.
Never mind. I found Ann Lawrence's paper (not on her site, though!) & I downloaded it before it disappeared. I still don't know what AGPs are, though, so can someone please tell me?
@@DonnaBrooks AGPs are one of two types of male to female transsexuals, as theorized by Ray Blanchard. The AGP subtype are heterosexual men who are aroused by the idea of becoming female. Some of them develop a female alter ego who they essentially fall in love with and want to become by transitioning. I'm pretty sure Miranda is AGP.
I'm an autogynephile and I don't identify as a woman, but rather as a man who wants to have a female body and have sex like a woman. I would like to change my body and still live as a man, and keep my male name, if only the society was more accepting to that.
Miranda has some salient points-but I do raise an eyebrow about a) the pronouns and b) the fact that not everyone has had the exact same sort of experience. It’s hard for me to call Miranda “him,” even if that’s what he prefers, just like it’s hard for me to call someone who hasn’t transitioned one bit the pronouns of the opposite sex. If you dress like a woman, look like a woman, and have a woman’s name...I’m gonna call that person a “she.” If Miranda goes just as hard in the opposite direction, that’s equally awkward for people. (If Miranda is just okay with male pronouns and doesn’t insist upon them, though, that’s understandable and quite a different matter.) I also think some trans people who do have self-awareness experience themselves “becoming” the opposite sex, in a non-literal way, through living as one. It’s just a different way of subjectively understanding the same experience. I’m glad Miranda is out there expressing her views, though. We need more variety among trans opinions.
J. Okay Mir doesn’t police pronouns at all, I’ve met him in real life a number of times and I’ve used he/she interchangeably (I’m dyspraxic so find it hard to edit what comes out of my mouth lol) the only time he says anything is if you call her ‘him’ and then apologise for it, and then it’s only a ‘don’t worry about it I don’t care what pronouns you use’. They use he pronouns but don’t get bent out of shape if you say she at all.
Why? "Miranda" is just a name and anyone can have a name. I'm pretty sure that's why Miranda kept his name because he liked it yet knows he is still a man. Names don't have sexes. And that's just the thing. You CANNOT change your sex. Just because a man throws on a dress, wears makeup, wears long hair (either his or a wig or extensions), and prefers feminine things over masculine things doesn't make him a woman. A woman is not defined by femininity, she's defined by what she's born as which is female and that is something tranwomen will never understand or be. I think this is why Miranda gets the hate he does because he's speaking truth and that is what the standard TRA does not like.
@@KaiDecadence @Kai Decadence @Kai Decadence Yeah, I'm trans and I'm perfectly aware that I'm not biologically female. I am perfectly okay with the fact that I'm a transsexual and I have no desire to be anything else. However, I'm not going to go around calling myself a man and calling myself "he" when I am clearly presenting as an approximation of what society considers female. That would defeat the purpose of transitioning. I know some feminists don't like that but, frankly, it's none of their business.
I dont think theres such a thing as "dressing like a woman" or having a "womans name". Of course theres cultural ideas of what this looks like but it implies that a woman named Jack who likes to wear a suit and tie shouldnt be considered a woman yet a man named miranda who wears a dress and heels should be called a she. Like someone else in the comments said, women are not defined by femininity.
Just one thing about Jazz. She (he, whatever...I have a trans mtf friend so I am not in the habit of saying he for transwomen) has been on hormones since she was prepubescent. Her penis would never have worked anyway. But, it still absolutely disgusts me and I think it's wrong. Giving her hormones was abysmal, as well.
I can see why Miranda is disliked to some extent but I AGREE with a lot of what he's saying and that which I do disagree with isn't enough to dislike him. It's ok to disagree...
@@mediacontent9767 That's not what I meant. When someone tells you their mother recently passed, it's polite & considerate to at least say "I'm sorry for your loss."
If you want to hear more about this topic from someone who has talked quite a bit about it, check out UA-camr GNC Centric. She's a 23 ear old de-transitioned female who talks about how kids can get easily brainwashed into the trans ideology as that is what happened to her when she was 10 and there's just so much that she goes into that paints how this kinda stuff can brainwash children who have no context or the life experience.
Hey Ben! Im an mtf trans person whose been watching your channel for a while, since the evergreen stuff, and Im interested in sharing my views on this stuff. Ive been on hormones for about 6 months and would like to share my thoughts on detrans, transtrenderism, lgbt matters, and what transgenderism is to me and other people who have been living with dysphoria for all or most of our life. A lot of detrans I see on and a lot of psychologists I see on as well as "trans" people seem to be under the impression that all trans people transition because the grass is greener, or because of other problems, or to fit in. This rather irks me, as without any prompting and without any of the other problems that they describe, my gender dysphoria has stayed with me my whole life. I especially dont like it when a detrans, someone who was never trans, claims to speak for a trans person. Im not sure how to ask to come on, but Id like to share my views, because I feel its been a little onesided in the expression of what transgenderism is.
@@MirandaYardleyYT because someone who detransitions for non medical reasons and never felt dysphoria by their own admission isnt trans. To be trans you have to have gender dysphoria that is treated by medically transitioning. If medical transition isnt for you then you arent trans. Boys can dress how they like and girls can dress how they like. Each can take whatever role they want, but unless you have suffered since a young age and continuously suffered with something that cannot be fixed by therapy that is having an incongruent sex in the brain compared to the body youre not trans. Its as simple as that. There are studies, scans, and other methods to determine if a person is trans factually. If a person transitions and develops gender dysphoria because of it relating to their natal sex, then its conclusive that they did not feel the gender dysphoria neccesary in the first place to justify transition. Every detrans ive heard talk about their reasons has not included consitent gender dysphoria from a young age, and always includes other caviots or reasons. Its very clear what is and is not transgender.
and because of the puberty blockers, his penis & scrotum didn't develop enough to make a vaginal flesh pouch (which is really all it is & requires constant "dilating" with a dildo type tool so it doesn't heal/fuse shut).
What makes Miranda a trans person? He never explained it. In other words, how am I to believe you are a trans person and not just some dude (maybe a trans dude, what does it mean?)? He says he became less awkward. This implies to me he just wanted to accept that he isn't like other men. "Ahh I'm a man, I don't feel like other men. So much tension! I'll call myself trans to escape this paradox. Ok now I can disregard those expectations/concepts, it's a relief." That's fine, it's very similar to how many gay people accept being gay (those who didn't accept it from the beginning), by escaping an expectation/desire paradox. My question is, what is the difference between "I'm trans" and "I'm not trans"? "I'm gay" means that, if I want to be intimate with someone, that someone will be a man. It has behavioral implications, it gives me permission to actualize the direction of my soul (so to speak). What is the soul-direction differential between trans and not trans? Is it a stand-in/icon of self-acceptance for certain people? "I am me, and I don't fit in these categories"
Lar Wor Tsomv I don’t believe in a ‘soul’. I have spoken before about my own motivations for transition but didn’t want to here for reasons explained and you’d understand why if you’ve seen me talk about this before. It’s my view biological sex is immutable and that men, adult human males, cannot become women.
@@MirandaYardleyYT I'm wondering less _why_ someone might transition, and more _what_ transition actually is. It implies something beyond crossdressing and/or acting effeminate (transition between aesthetics), and, as you say, cannot be a biological claim (transition into a different biology). Perhaps an extremely deep philosophical question, but still accessible to the human intellect I think.
His autogynephilic orientation places him firmly within the category of trans. To have autogynephilia is to have an unchangeable desire to become a woman, which is the most common cause of MtF spectrum trans people in western individualistic nations.
I think that when people speak of "feeling like they have a female brain/male brain" what they actually sometimes mean is that they don't think and feel how they're told that people of their so-called "assigned" sex think and feel. Yes, they can't possibly know what people of the opposite sex think and feel, but they know that they're told how they should think and feel, and they don't think and feel that way. I went through a period during puberty when I was absolutely dick obsessed. I almost flunked out of school because I couldn't concentrate on any of my classes, I was just thinking about dicks 24/7. I never told anyone, but I knew that this wasn't how "normal" girls thought. Every young adult book and magazine that I read, and movie that I watched, and after school special told me that girls thought boys were gross. If someone had told me that I was a gay man trapped in a woman's body I would have believed them, because that is absolutely how I felt. Because I was lead to believe that girls hated sex and only boys wanted sex. I also have a few other characteristics that are more "masculine-brained" (I know some shmuck is gonna take me to task in the comments for this) than many other women I've met, and than female stereotypes, even though I am actually extremely feminine and heterosexual. I can only imagine that this is how some people feel when they talk about "feeling like they have a male brain/female brain"
In an article you can read the title "trans ideology does not welcome women" as if it were a major concern for Miranda. But Miranda argues that women's rights and feminism don't have to have anything to do with or help transsexuals. There is a feeling of injustice in me when I read these words. It seems that everything has to revolve around women and nothing revolves around transsexual people.
Within the trans movement everythin revolves around transexuals and nothing to do with women. Women, within the trans movement are categorised as oppresive. The womens movement has issues but it takes trans men as female and therefore counted within womens rights. When male on male violence is discussed, trans women are counted because they're male
Yes I remember that, your approach was to try to ridicule me, you then live cast yourself watching a video of mine you said you disagreed with then realised you agreed with me, then mocked my appearance! Strange man.
@@MirandaYardleyYT I have no lasting malice with you at this point; I was just realizing how surprised I am that the "gender criticals" are still trying to claim that "all or most homophobia is rooted in misogyny." It's like you've never thought about peoples' fear of our alleged predatory behavior (especially concerning minors), or the fear of diseases playing a factor. It's absurd, as the predation one is so obviously linked to males almost exclusively. I can apologize if I mocked your appearance; from what I remember, almost nobody was watching the stream... but I wouldn't do that now. I have sincerely changed a lot. As for Magdalen Berns... she was a dick to literally everybody; nobody owes her anything. She reaped what she sewed, which is why it's never advised to initiate conflict and lie relentlessly online, as people will always catch on, and considering how cruel she was to numerous people who were deeply effected by her ACTUAL organized harassment, we should all be able to agree at this point that she simply doesn't need to be brought up. Regardless, it is a shame that the "gender criticals" were so insistent on burning bridges with people who had things in common with them, because messages don't exactly get out that way... though I suppose if it's a sane enough message, mentioned by sane enough people, we should have nothing to worry about.
Btw, I wanted to mention: I use the term TERF a lot more sparingly now, as I do agree that it's become an actual slur that's thrown around by completely wacky trans activist types at essentially EVERYBODY. I've been noticing a lot of the bio women who call themselves "non binary" (the types that didn't even get a haircut and aren't even tomboys), calling me a "TERF", because I won't acknowledge their "transition". Then, I had a recent interaction with two trans young people on twitter who repeatedly called both MYSELF and then Karen Straughan "TERFs" for literally no reason they would even attempt to explain.... and I figured "okay, I see megan murphy's point... this is just a word wacko activists call non-wacko activists." Karen and I are MRAs... our sentiments are literally anti-feminist. The idea that ppl would go around using the acronym towards us is just ridiculous. In my opinion, people like Magdelen are very fairly called TERFs, but terms need to have an actual meaning for them to be worth using.
I completely agree with Miranda as to the “death” of a person who transitions, etc. My child, a daughter, has “died” in a sense while “feeling” she is a male, and I’m “grieving” as the mother who was left behind, except that the person who “died” is still “alive” and is apparently embracing this “rebirth” into a male without allowing family and friends a proper memorial service to mourn the girl that “died”.
The breakup of a marriage (or any relationship really) is also like a death too, as the people still exist... but is quite different from transitioning to the opposite sex (and I am not saying “gender” because they’re confusing sex and gender aren’t they?) as it’s utilizing medicalization to gain the superficial attributes of the opposite sex. And they’re (medical professionals) are ruining bodies and lives. Yes, opportunism sharks exist.
I think that it makes more sense to say gender transitioning. Sex is what is biological and immutable; whereas gender is conceptual and performative. It is impossible to transition to the opposite sex.
@PeriwinkleMoon, How's it going now... 3 yrs later? Has there been resolution?
I think this statement is false. You put " grieving" in quotes. Grieving people don't do that. Moreover, while I believe you may be female I don't think you have children, or you would have at least added some hope for reconciliation in that screed. I don't know your motivations, but I think they are dark.
"I will not mock women." 💜💜💜
I know. That, and his statement that the trans ideology movement is deeply homophobic & rotten to the core were 2 of my fave lines in a great interview full of memorable statements.
That comment made me catch my breath and feel very grateful. I had lost touch with how much we are mocked.
Miranda, sorry to hear about your mother.
I enjoy Miranda's viewpoint on this a lot. This is one of my favourite interviews so far. I have been waiting for you to have Miranda on.
Some of what you spoke about really resonated with me. I was put on antidepressants at 13 and a half by a very well-meaning general practitioner and left unsupervised on them for a decade. I later found out that the medical community decided this particular drug shouldn't be given to people under 18 and was for short term use for people who had PTSD. I truly believed I had a 'chemical imbalance' and needed this medication but now I feel like it stunted my emotional and sexual maturity. This medicalization of existential angst was part of my concern (admittedly there were many other concerns) when a significant portion of my friendship group came out as trans or was aggressively pro-trans. It's been a rough 2 years after having been branded a 'terf' but these interviews give me hope that one day we can evolve our collective and individual thinking around this topic.
Keep it up Izzy.
Izzy Carter excellent point! Can I recommend reading Johann Hari, lost connections. it’s about the over prescribing of anti depressants and the research as to why this is so negative for the individual and society as a whole. I just finished it and it was a really good read.
Izzy Carter here he is on rogan and lays out the basics of his point. Good interview Joe is a little annoying at times but interesting stuff. ua-cam.com/video/DQUgd9GQtoQ/v-deo.html
“The people in the corner shop know you’re a man get over it”
I’m dead! 🤣
So well put! That autogynephiles think that being a woman is about feeling sexy. It just outright shows how LITTLE they know about the actual every day female experience.
It varies among that community. I've read the stereotypical sexy, also easy, demure, subservient, oppressed. It seems each individual forms their own stereotype and reflects that behaviour, often treating women in that way as well as desiring such treatment for themselves. Read some stories of trans widows. I have to be honest, I am far more comfortable with HSTS than AGP. I would take the word of someone who had worked through and de transitioned over that of someone who still wears the woman cloak for comfort.
I feel like shite most of the time thanks to being a woman.
Being men, they can't know what it feels like to be a woman. I
@@okupofemstra4934 Men and man is in the title , Humans ,but I get you're point equally how can a Woman understand what its like to be a Man mostly they don't
Miranda is wrong; he is the most LOVED trans. Waxmyballs is the most hated trans.
and Morgane Ogre
@@88Vicky So true. So many on that list.
@@88Vicky Morgane Ogre is truly a POS. Anyone who would support the closing & vandalism of a rape relief shelter for women b/c they don't want people with dicks around traumatized women who were victims of male violence has absolutely no empathy & is misogynistic & entitled af. He also was instrumental in gathering the mob who helped to shut down Jenn Smith's presentation on the UBC campus in Canada.
@Honeysuckle Blossom Ogre is definitely NOT "sane" or "level headed" in any way. I discovered that in a long conversation with him. He is an AGP 100% creep
Well done and keep up the good work. Society is starting to recognize who the true journalists are.
Miranda's cat is so cute, sitting there like a little co-host.
Ben, this is the best series on the Internet. Such important dialogues, these should be used as CE courses for all in the social services, including healthcare. Thank you, and I thank your guests. ♥️👍🏼
I have a lot of respect for this guy, he is honest about his world view, brave, and respects women a lot more than all the LGBT - feminist activists who act like they care about women while screaming and terrorising any woman that disagrees with any of their views. And this is SO refreshing he doesn't pretend he is actually woman, by completely alternating his outer appearance in a way that doesn't allow women to have a unique self determination. He try to take over the female identity.
One remark - men don't know how a female feels. They may *think* they know, they may not feel comfortable being who they are for some reason, but you can't know you feel like a women, for the simple reason you've never been one.
This is one of the most fascinating interviews I’ve ever watched. Condolences on the loss of your mother Miranda x
24:00 onward -- You're very close, here, to the concept of sexual complimentarity. Sexual complimentarity is an durable (and respectably effective) concept which has been recognized in Western thought for a very, very long time -- it was, really, largely unchallenged until post-modernist thinking threw out of the concept of objective truth, and therefore all other concepts that refer to objective true. Sexual complimentarity (among other ideas) holds that it is objectively true that a male is immutable and NOT a female (ie, one essence excludes the other), and vice versa (ie, there is an essence to "male" and "female" which are exclusive of each other yet totally complimentary to each other).
Physically, the complimentarity of the sexes is demonstrably provable through their unitive ability to procreate. This is so obvious to us that we might overlook its lesson -- it is, literally, only through this complimentarity that humanity continues. Male and female really do exist. It is bizarre that this has become controversial, but considering that some (but not most) people these days reject the idea of sexual complimentarity as having any importance for anything (from marriage to child-rearing to personal relationships), I suppose it shouldn't be surprising. As Meghan Murphy said, "men are not women"!
I thought it sounded more like Carl Jung's discussion of the anima and animus within each of us.
Thank you for posting. Great interview, Benjamin. Miranda is so smart and honest. It would be amazing to grab a pint together some day.
I literally found your channel today and I haven’t done anything but listen all day long (I swear I have a job, just recovering at home. 😂). I’m FASCINATED!
Miranda is so brave! What I find mind-boggling is that the trans community have always been shy and quiet and the new leftist activity has made them come out of anonymity to defend women and real trans people. You just see it everywhere you go.
It’s like having me fight in a suit of armor (can’t fight back to save my life).
Thank you both. BB I continue to tune in as the sensical calmversations bring relief in these times. Thanks Miranda for sharing your clear, straightforward insights. Hard won no doubt.
YES YES YES!!! Thank you! I have been thinking - how do those who are physically male KNOW what it is to be a woman if not by gender stereotypes?
I agree -- maybe this is why Yardley states that perhaps gender dysphoria is not a stand-alone mental event. Dr Paul McHugh (retired, formerly of John Hopkins) considers gender dysphoria to be an assumption disorder (with comorbidity), because the individual (as you point out) MUST make certain assumptions about the self which he or she literally has not and cannot experience.
To what extent any particular individual then relies on gender stereotypes would vary -- but, since they quite literally MUST assume certain things in order to develop a desire to obtain them or a sorrow at not having them (and thus distress or discomfort with not having them), these individuals must be basing their ideas on something more than their perceptions....which would suggest that stereotypes, indeed, do play a big role.
Additionally, once the person determines that he or she is "in the wrong body," then the person must simultaneously assume that he or she is absolutely correct in his or her personal analysis -- that is, they have to assume that they are infallible. So, an infallible decision is made based upon assumptions about a reality which cannot be experienced.
@@L35inColorado Great comment. I hadn't heard the term 'assumption disorder' before.
@@L35inColorado Miranda is much more self aware and has done therapy. Denial can be a useful temporary defence mechanism but it's ultimately unhealthy.
@@Bingewatchingmediacontent I guess what I mean is, having certain biology brings with it different experiences. As far as being a woman I am talking about puberty, menstruation, pregnancy and the innate urge to become pregnant, menopause, and post-menopause. These are not "stereotypes" - this is nature. Without these things, we would not exist at all.
Feminists have fought being associated with stereotypes that society deems female - like playing with dolls, wearing make-up, wearing dresses, and choosing "female" careers - which is how men who "feel" like women cite as ways that they "felt" like a female from an early age. I am merely pointing out that having the urge to wear dresses and put on make-up is NOT what inherently makes us women - if that were the case, LOADS of women would not be considered women at all.
@@L35inColorado Very well-stated. Thank you!
It is definitely a stereotype that has been created - plenty of women take on DIY /physical tasks that were previously thought of as traditionally 'male' many years ago. There really is no one way to be a woman - we are all different individuals, not all teetering around on stilettoes behaving like helpless creatures afraid to break a nail ! Some of us are just grateful to squeeze in personal care basics and have clean clothes to put on in between childcare or work. Ditto there is no one way to be a man, regardless of sexuality. I think we went wrong years ago by not thoroughly investigating causes and treatments of gender dysphoria, offering extreme physical solutions instead and permitting sex to be 'legally' changed. I am sure that scientists and surgeons were excited to pioneer such groundbreaking techniques and perhaps make a name for themselves. We are now reaping what we sowed as a society. I appreciate the frankness of this interview and the campaigning that Miranda does. It sits at odds with my dislike of him sporting feminine curves in the same way I dislike transmen who use hormones or get surgery to imitate male characteristics. Just because something is possible, it does not make it the best route to travel. Dress how you want but don't expect others to see you as you want them to. We shouldn't steal and cheapen biological truths from each other's bodies. We are designed to compliment one another. ☯
Please do invite Miranda back soon. It felt like there was a lot more to say. Great interview. Thanks to both of you.
wow. Thank you for this glimpse into a perspective that we just aren't hearing about at all.
Been meaning to watch this for a while...what a fantastic interview and Miranda Yardley is a breath of fresh air. So honest and direct, that's one of things missing from the trans movement, honesty. Thank you Benjamin and Miranda. 🙂
Miranda fucking Yardley, being as brilliant as ever. 💗💗💗
“Have to put on makeup and high heels just to answer the door for pizza delivery.” That says it all right there.
Except... That's not how a large portion of trans MtF people actually are. Like, at this point I do makeup maybe once every other month for like a special outing or something. Otherwise after being on my hormones for a while my body and face have mostly gotten to a point where I just look female, which is the objective from the very beginning. To be able to be perceived and recognized as female just by perspective alone.
The thing you're referring to here, and what they referred to a lot in this seems to be more relevant to Autogynephiles in particular, to which I'd say it's massively important to distinguish people who are just "autogynephilic" versus a genuine transexual (such as myself).
I didn't transition just to "get off to myself". I transitioned so that I could actually find peace for the first time in 20 years with my In pursuit of that before it became too late. 'Cause let's be honest, if I spent like 45 - 50 years developing with male hormones and everything, by the time I transitioned, It'd be nearly impossible for me to be passable as female to most in public. I transitioned so that I could actually see a happy future for myself and restabilize my rapidly declining mental state once it really started hitting me after years of repressing myself that my body was starting to turn into that of a "young man" and that only kept perpetuating my dysphoria more and more exponentially.
HI MIRANDA, I MISS YOU SO MUCH ON TWITTER
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Much respect, Miranda - I’ve been following you for a while; love your work. Savvy, intelligent, thoughtful, self aware and kind - as well as amazing use of the Socratic method when you are the interviewer. ❤️
Thanks for this vid - sorry for your loss Miranda.
yaeh, i've been waiting for this! my favorite youtube centrist and my favorite youtube transperson! you are my cooking background noise - brunch will be great!
Wow! The end was perfect and Miranda totally hit the nail on the head at the end speaking of how this is inhuman experimentation and exploitation.
Thank you for having Miranda! Miranda is one of my favorite voices out there, and someone I admire greatly.
Miranda is an amazing writer and activist, and is very brave to do what he does.
Miranda saying that a lot of the transgender activists have no self-awareness reminds me of the old American Idol auditions where people who were clearly mentally unwell and deluded would be completely convinced they WERE singers and deserved fame and fortune AS great singers when they were absolutely talentless. It was awkward and gross because we were aware and all KNEW they were not well whereas now we live in a Twilight Zone world where "experts" and people in lab coats are forcing us to accept this "there's no sex" delusion. Imagine Simon Cowell being FIRED for not accepting and letting through one of these tone-deaf wonders because "I am a singer", don't believe your lying ears, but here we are.
Good analogy
Gender identity / binary sex aside. Miranda is a BEAUTIFUL SOUL. So much love for her.
I love her too 💜💜💜
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Wow I have been watching your videos Benjamin and what a surprise to see this! Miranda writes on this subject extremely well. And it's true he is hated. I posted something positive about him yesterday and got my ass whipped by sister GC feminists.
I wish there were more people who think as well and logical as Miranda Yardley . Thank you Miranda ...
Brilliant discussion between two thoughtful, open-minded people who are actually interested in ideas and people.
Thank you Miranda for speaking out!
Awesome conversation! Miranda is brilliant!
Wonderful.....wonderful...wonderful.....a lot of who we are goes back in time probably to t he first manifestation of consciousness .....so far more complex than switching a button on and off.....which is why women cannot reconcile Trans women to being a woman....it's partially the predator detection platform we have inherent in us...I think your so amazingly informative and reasoned....
Great guest. Great discussion. Thx!
I LOVE Miranda Yardley! Miranda is kind of my hero and I have never felt that way before.
Great video. I love the way Miranda pisses on their genderist chips.
This was a fantastic discussion.
I listened to this twice in a row & will be sharing it. Thank you to both of you! I wanted to ask you some questions that anyone can answer: 1) What does "past peak trans" mean? 2) I'm still a bit confused about how Miranda said he knew that being a transexual was right for him but says there's no such thing as having the wrong body or something to that effect. Could someone please clarify Miranda's position on this??
This trans individual is quite sensible in many ways, especially in recognizing the "death" of an old identity. Which not only effects the individual, but those around that individual. An recognizing that the focus and many of the new goals of trans /transitioning individuals, become about one's SELF.
An that there is quite literally a "death" of the "old identity," an of their interests, personality and social or family/friendship rules of their identity that others have gotten use to.
I also found this (hosts) view of this and of those transitioning, comparable to the "death" and "rebirthing" of and in Christian ideology, an the fact that this concept is so deeply embedded in Western culture. If the psychological phenomena between transgenderism, being much more prevalent in recent times and in the advent of medical procedures allowing for these transitions to go on. If this isn't a deeply rooted reason or driving factor behind the choice of transitioning individuals, to do so.
Which I would assume and believe most studies back up, the majority of trans individuals on average being atheists. I find that an interesting assertion and possibility, an would be curious/an again assume that a transitioning or transitioned individual WERE Christian and small percentage who may be.
I would be interested to hear THEIR opinion and view if such concept, an would think that THEY may more thrown off and complexed/curious of this concept. Which this individual didn't entertain too much, an NOT saying or assuming that this is at all necessarily the case.
Although it MAY play a roll and have a deeply rooted level of psychological effect in reality, perhaps with certain individuals more then others. But this would be a hard thing to prove or even recognize for the majority, if not for ANY individual being that the concept and religious ideology IS so deeply and unconsciously embedded in the minds of EVEN everyone including non religious and atheist individuals.
But very interesting hearing the views and support of what are typically seen as "anti" gay/trans ideologies and concepts.
As this individual has said themselves, the views that often quite fact based that this person supports are seen as very unsupportive and even "hateful" in general let alone amongst a trans individual themselves. In the eyes of most gay/trans LGBTetc, an those who typically support these individuals and the movement.
Which by those who are NOT apart of it, are often blindly followed by whatever the LGBT (gay/trans) crowd themselves support.
Which is why this individual describes themselves as an extremely "hated" trans individual, because of things like recognizing their own biological genetic sex for what it is "Scientifically."
Even though and when THIS individuals views are actually MORE logically based and scientifically backed.
Thanks Miranda for sharing your perspective and experiences publicly.
I am similar to Miranda except I am not an activist ,its hard to fully understand the "transitional process" but unfortunately I allowed myself to go down a path that was brought about by a combination of factors , mainly I was or possibly still am a disenfranchised male who couldn't resolve or work out my position in society my relationship with women , it all ended tragically when I seen a way to empower myself which was I am really a woman so went down that path, if you have surgery etc when that happens its al;most impossible to get back, so now I am in state of perpetual depression however leading a fairly successful life, oh forgot to mention autism, biggest criticism i have is that I was allowed by my own stupidity, I campaigned for it to have gender reassignment surgery, I really like a lot of people have never had adequate psychiatric evaluation.I have just blasted those words out quickly whilst listening to Miranda , hope it makes some kind of sense ? Please tell me .
So you're really hurting from the decisions that you have made in your life as far as a transgender woman? And having perpetual depression I can understand that! I'm a straight woman however, I have such an interest in gender dysphoria for some reason or another! I don't like seeing people being misled or taken advantage of in any way! My best friend is going through this with her daughter who was all girly girl at sixteen she told her mom she wanted to be a boy! I guess that would be called onset GD? Her daughter does have autism... high functioning autism and also underline mental issues! Perhaps you can open a channel to talk about it! The more people that speak up and tell their stories the better it is! I believe it needs to be told! I wish you the best I wish you happiness most of all I wish you find the Peace within you!!! ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻🤟🏻
@@winros Yes from time to time my life has been a nightmare I believe the Gender Change is a manifestation of childhood trauma generally the Trans community would not like my opinions. Yes depression comes and goes regularly I don't think i have had or am likely to have an adequate psychiatric evaluation,in some ways the self Id idea might be good idea if you consider that people wont have to go through surgery, the recent very public case in Scotland demonstrates that a person can transition and then land up in the "wrong" prison . I did what i did for a number of reasons , probably main issue I had was dealing with toxic Female relatives including my Mother also Toxic ex and difficulties managing relationships with my children, turned out to be a disaster , I reckon your friend will have to sit tight and relax as she is in a tricky situation with her daughter , the thing is I cant see the NHS wanting to spend money on Gender transitions, a lot of virtue signalling by Politicians , I hope her daughter eventually realises that transition is a very basd idea, any form of surgery is . i was diagnosed with Asperger s and ADHD. I have got a You Tube channel go have a look although II tend to avoid talking about trans stuff although sometimes my feelings slip out unexpectedly. Ok thanks not sure I ever will but i am grateful for the kind words and I will carry on enjoying the fresh air , getting out and about .
fascinating conversation thank you
I am really glad that i decided to view this. I nearly passed it over.
It gave me a lot to think about. It was also interesting to hear someone voice the same things that I have.
I don't equate transition to death, I equate it to birth; giving birth to a whole new self, thereby leaving the old person behind. Which is why I think it is a decision that should be considered with some amount of gravity.
Beautiful tuxedo cat in Miranda's thumbnail! 🥰
What a strange and interesting conversation, I think it's valuable that an individual has risen up from the cesspool that had become a supposedly good collective of people. But I think the sole idea that we are (or at least I am) celebrating this, makes me know how screwed the whole movement is.
It's not easy for me to put down Blanchard's theory, knowing the results that we are all witnessing around...
Great content, please keep it up, cheers from Argentina.
Fabulous questioning Mr Boyce. We still don't get a huge insight into who or what Miranda is though do we. S/he avoids a lot, which is their prerogative of course. What exactly has Miranda transitioned to? In what way has she transitioned or in what way is she transsexual exactly? How has Miranda's transition helped her/him - why did transitioning make her less 'awkward' or was that the 20 years of counselling that did that?
Lots of contradictions as well which I found interesting. On the one hand transition helped them, on the other hand transition is cast as a terrible thing that no one should have to go through.
Sexuality is described (in 'other' autogynephiles) as being this shameful cycle of crossdressing and masturbating which is alleviated by removing testosterone and possibly their penis, removing their sexual self and leaving them in a more peaceful happy place; yet on the other hand when talking about Jazz 'sexuality is what makes us human'.
I do get a sense that there is a lot of anger still there, and I don't think it is simply just anger about children transitioning. There is displacement defence. It feels as though it's coming from another place. I also think sexual orientation, AGP and gender identity can coexist as separate and not always mutually exclusive spectrums (spectra?). Interesting discussion anyway will watch more of your stuff.
Miranda is just utterly wonderful
I think both of you are fantastic…so why haven’t I ever seen this 🤷🏼♀️ Addressing the issue right now 😀
Edit…Anne Laurence? Why haven’t I heard of her until now? I love a fellow gobshite! (That’s a compliment by the way) I’m spending too much time on Twitter trying to shut up two very loud & obnoxious Canadians up! A semi win, 1 is in Twitter time out!
I’ll shut up & watch now…did say I was a gobshite 😂 my trade Union boss used to lovingly call me a bolshy bitch & a gobshite…almost makes me emotional 😂
I love this series!!! So insightful and interesting. You are a great liaison for the people with these lifestyle experiences to be able share with the world.
so thankful that she mentioned that “not everyone who has gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia is necissarily trans”
An aim of humanistic counselling is to develop an internal rather than external locus of self evaluation and to close the gap between a sense of an ideal and real self. Affirmation undermines this basis, and is more like coaching.
Annette Catherine or grooming!
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William Malone discusses affirmative, accommodative and therapeutic *gender* counselling. The latter got ken zucker ousted.
So much love and respect for Miranda.
Now this is someone I can get behind!
In the description, I think you mean "viciously *reasonable* essays"
I put errors in the description to test to see if anyone looks at it. J/k thanks for the correction.
Miranda has common sense. ❤
His whole relationship with his mother was taken off the table of discussion. Our relationship with our first primary role models is crucial in every way that we mentally and physically develop, especially in countries with bureaucracies that are increasingly enforcing medicalization. Enforced medicalization is not just happening with the mass media driven sociopolitical phenomenon of transgenderism. That being said, he's very brave to go against the tidal wave of the transgender movement, and speak out.
Margo Channing my mother had just passed away. Hope you can understand why I didn’t want to talk about her.
Okay. Didn’t know if I’d like Miranda. Turns out...I think she rocks. A wealth of knowledge worth listening to. Thank you!
Best Thumbnail Ever
This guy gets it
No wrong wrong wrong. The most hated transexual would have to be Jonathan Yaniv.
Twitter loves and defends him.
That was brutal.
No political whitewashing.
This conversation, I understood, Benjamin.
That was fascinating, thanks. I love how aware Miranda is.
Why can’t everyone just mind their own uteruses and prostate glands.....and allow others mind theirs - it is as simple AS that
This was fascinating and deep.. Great interview.
Questions! Questions! Who is Ann Lawrence? Have you interviewed her, Benjamin? Someone below mentioned AGPs. Who or what are they?
Never mind. I found Ann Lawrence's paper (not on her site, though!) & I downloaded it before it disappeared. I still don't know what AGPs are, though, so can someone please tell me?
@@DonnaBrooks AGPs are one of two types of male to female transsexuals, as theorized by Ray Blanchard. The AGP subtype are heterosexual men who are aroused by the idea of becoming female. Some of them develop a female alter ego who they essentially fall in love with and want to become by transitioning. I'm pretty sure Miranda is AGP.
I'm an autogynephile and I don't identify as a woman, but rather as a man who wants to have a female body and have sex like a woman. I would like to change my body and still live as a man, and keep my male name, if only the society was more accepting to that.
Tuxedo Cat Appearance 48:25
They become what they desire - Uber women with plastic bits👗🤯
Miranda is my favorite ♥️
Great interview.
I consider myself a member of the French royal family and insist on being referred to as Your imperial majesty.
Lmfao never seen this type of joke before
Miranda has some salient points-but I do raise an eyebrow about a) the pronouns and b) the fact that not everyone has had the exact same sort of experience. It’s hard for me to call Miranda “him,” even if that’s what he prefers, just like it’s hard for me to call someone who hasn’t transitioned one bit the pronouns of the opposite sex. If you dress like a woman, look like a woman, and have a woman’s name...I’m gonna call that person a “she.” If Miranda goes just as hard in the opposite direction, that’s equally awkward for people. (If Miranda is just okay with male pronouns and doesn’t insist upon them, though, that’s understandable and quite a different matter.)
I also think some trans people who do have self-awareness experience themselves “becoming” the opposite sex, in a non-literal way, through living as one. It’s just a different way of subjectively understanding the same experience.
I’m glad Miranda is out there expressing her views, though. We need more variety among trans opinions.
J. Okay Mir doesn’t police pronouns at all, I’ve met him in real life a number of times and I’ve used he/she interchangeably (I’m dyspraxic so find it hard to edit what comes out of my mouth lol) the only time he says anything is if you call her ‘him’ and then apologise for it, and then it’s only a ‘don’t worry about it I don’t care what pronouns you use’. They use he pronouns but don’t get bent out of shape if you say she at all.
Why? "Miranda" is just a name and anyone can have a name. I'm pretty sure that's why Miranda kept his name because he liked it yet knows he is still a man. Names don't have sexes.
And that's just the thing. You CANNOT change your sex. Just because a man throws on a dress, wears makeup, wears long hair (either his or a wig or extensions), and prefers feminine things over masculine things doesn't make him a woman. A woman is not defined by femininity, she's defined by what she's born as which is female and that is something tranwomen will never understand or be. I think this is why Miranda gets the hate he does because he's speaking truth and that is what the standard TRA does not like.
@@KaiDecadence @Kai Decadence @Kai Decadence Yeah, I'm trans and I'm perfectly aware that I'm not biologically female. I am perfectly okay with the fact that I'm a transsexual and I have no desire to be anything else. However, I'm not going to go around calling myself a man and calling myself "he" when I am clearly presenting as an approximation of what society considers female. That would defeat the purpose of transitioning. I know some feminists don't like that but, frankly, it's none of their business.
I dont think theres such a thing as "dressing like a woman" or having a "womans name". Of course theres cultural ideas of what this looks like but it implies that a woman named Jack who likes to wear a suit and tie shouldnt be considered a woman yet a man named miranda who wears a dress and heels should be called a she. Like someone else in the comments said, women are not defined by femininity.
Just one thing about Jazz. She (he, whatever...I have a trans mtf friend so I am not in the habit of saying he for transwomen) has been on hormones since she was prepubescent. Her penis would never have worked anyway. But, it still absolutely disgusts me and I think it's wrong. Giving her hormones was abysmal, as well.
If Miranda is saying this why is she transitioned, called Miranda etc. I’m confused, please explain?
Miranda. Yay!
I can see why Miranda is disliked to some extent but I AGREE with a lot of what he's saying and that which I do disagree with isn't enough to dislike him. It's ok to disagree...
Miranda is a breath of fresh air.
Mind your manners Benjamin! express your condolences to Miranda for the recent loss of his mother! (so sorry Miranda, xo)
He made it clear he didn’t want to address that
@@mediacontent9767 That's not what I meant. When someone tells you their mother recently passed, it's polite & considerate to at least say "I'm sorry for your loss."
Truly heartbreaking
Wish they would have talked more about the transing of young children. That's what I'm most worried about.
If you want to hear more about this topic from someone who has talked quite a bit about it, check out UA-camr GNC Centric. She's a 23 ear old de-transitioned female who talks about how kids can get easily brainwashed into the trans ideology as that is what happened to her when she was 10 and there's just so much that she goes into that paints how this kinda stuff can brainwash children who have no context or the life experience.
Hey Ben! Im an mtf trans person whose been watching your channel for a while, since the evergreen stuff, and Im interested in sharing my views on this stuff. Ive been on hormones for about 6 months and would like to share my thoughts on detrans, transtrenderism, lgbt matters, and what transgenderism is to me and other people who have been living with dysphoria for all or most of our life. A lot of detrans I see on and a lot of psychologists I see on as well as "trans" people seem to be under the impression that all trans people transition because the grass is greener, or because of other problems, or to fit in. This rather irks me, as without any prompting and without any of the other problems that they describe, my gender dysphoria has stayed with me my whole life. I especially dont like it when a detrans, someone who was never trans, claims to speak for a trans person. Im not sure how to ask to come on, but Id like to share my views, because I feel its been a little onesided in the expression of what transgenderism is.
- LollipopSunder - why are you kicking detransitioners out of the trans box?
@@MirandaYardleyYT because someone who detransitions for non medical reasons and never felt dysphoria by their own admission isnt trans. To be trans you have to have gender dysphoria that is treated by medically transitioning. If medical transition isnt for you then you arent trans. Boys can dress how they like and girls can dress how they like. Each can take whatever role they want, but unless you have suffered since a young age and continuously suffered with something that cannot be fixed by therapy that is having an incongruent sex in the brain compared to the body youre not trans. Its as simple as that. There are studies, scans, and other methods to determine if a person is trans factually. If a person transitions and develops gender dysphoria because of it relating to their natal sex, then its conclusive that they did not feel the gender dysphoria neccesary in the first place to justify transition. Every detrans ive heard talk about their reasons has not included consitent gender dysphoria from a young age, and always includes other caviots or reasons. Its very clear what is and is not transgender.
who is she? who was she? who does she hope to be!?
@58:32 I wanted Miranda to say ~ The Boyce of Reason ~ :^(
Ok had to restart the video because there are totally new functions on Ben's page .. odd
Check out rose of dawn
Who’s that? ua-cam.com/video/hf_Ajljavy4/v-deo.html
Benjamin A Boyce lol.
Dr Marci Bowers did the surgery on Jazz Jennings
Bowers
and because of the puberty blockers, his penis & scrotum didn't develop enough to make a vaginal flesh pouch (which is really all it is & requires constant "dilating" with a dildo type tool so it doesn't heal/fuse shut).
What makes Miranda a trans person? He never explained it. In other words, how am I to believe you are a trans person and not just some dude (maybe a trans dude, what does it mean?)?
He says he became less awkward. This implies to me he just wanted to accept that he isn't like other men. "Ahh I'm a man, I don't feel like other men. So much tension! I'll call myself trans to escape this paradox. Ok now I can disregard those expectations/concepts, it's a relief."
That's fine, it's very similar to how many gay people accept being gay (those who didn't accept it from the beginning), by escaping an expectation/desire paradox. My question is, what is the difference between "I'm trans" and "I'm not trans"? "I'm gay" means that, if I want to be intimate with someone, that someone will be a man. It has behavioral implications, it gives me permission to actualize the direction of my soul (so to speak). What is the soul-direction differential between trans and not trans? Is it a stand-in/icon of self-acceptance for certain people? "I am me, and I don't fit in these categories"
Lar Wor Tsomv I don’t believe in a ‘soul’. I have spoken before about my own motivations for transition but didn’t want to here for reasons explained and you’d understand why if you’ve seen me talk about this before. It’s my view biological sex is immutable and that men, adult human males, cannot become women.
@@MirandaYardleyYT I'm wondering less _why_ someone might transition, and more _what_ transition actually is. It implies something beyond crossdressing and/or acting effeminate (transition between aesthetics), and, as you say, cannot be a biological claim (transition into a different biology).
Perhaps an extremely deep philosophical question, but still accessible to the human intellect I think.
I am suspicious of the constant virtue signalling to "save the women". Automatic chivalry dressed up "stepping up" to "protect the womenz".
His autogynephilic orientation places him firmly within the category of trans. To have autogynephilia is to have an unchangeable desire to become a woman, which is the most common cause of MtF spectrum trans people in western individualistic nations.
I think that when people speak of "feeling like they have a female brain/male brain" what they actually sometimes mean is that they don't think and feel how they're told that people of their so-called "assigned" sex think and feel. Yes, they can't possibly know what people of the opposite sex think and feel, but they know that they're told how they should think and feel, and they don't think and feel that way.
I went through a period during puberty when I was absolutely dick obsessed. I almost flunked out of school because I couldn't concentrate on any of my classes, I was just thinking about dicks 24/7. I never told anyone, but I knew that this wasn't how "normal" girls thought. Every young adult book and magazine that I read, and movie that I watched, and after school special told me that girls thought boys were gross. If someone had told me that I was a gay man trapped in a woman's body I would have believed them, because that is absolutely how I felt. Because I was lead to believe that girls hated sex and only boys wanted sex. I also have a few other characteristics that are more "masculine-brained" (I know some shmuck is gonna take me to task in the comments for this) than many other women I've met, and than female stereotypes, even though I am actually extremely feminine and heterosexual. I can only imagine that this is how some people feel when they talk about "feeling like they have a male brain/female brain"
In an article you can read the title "trans ideology does not welcome women" as if it were a major concern for Miranda. But Miranda argues that women's rights and feminism don't have to have anything to do with or help transsexuals. There is a feeling of injustice in me when I read these words. It seems that everything has to revolve around women and nothing revolves around transsexual people.
Within the trans movement everythin revolves around transexuals and nothing to do with women. Women, within the trans movement are categorised as oppresive.
The womens movement has issues but it takes trans men as female and therefore counted within womens rights. When male on male violence is discussed, trans women are counted because they're male
The guest was amazing. I disagree with the host a lot.
👍🏼
Its strong, not mean, and OK
I just wish that there never had to be such a negative context of being a feminine man.
12:00 .... I'm remembering why I think I got into an argument with this one on Twitter a little bit more.
Prince of Queens lol wasn’t that because they’re good friends with Mags Berns and you were a total prick about her.
Yes I remember that, your approach was to try to ridicule me, you then live cast yourself watching a video of mine you said you disagreed with then realised you agreed with me, then mocked my appearance! Strange man.
@@MirandaYardleyYT
I have no lasting malice with you at this point; I was just realizing how surprised I am that the "gender criticals" are still trying to claim that "all or most homophobia is rooted in misogyny." It's like you've never thought about peoples' fear of our alleged predatory behavior (especially concerning minors), or the fear of diseases playing a factor. It's absurd, as the predation one is so obviously linked to males almost exclusively.
I can apologize if I mocked your appearance; from what I remember, almost nobody was watching the stream... but I wouldn't do that now. I have sincerely changed a lot.
As for Magdalen Berns... she was a dick to literally everybody; nobody owes her anything. She reaped what she sewed, which is why it's never advised to initiate conflict and lie relentlessly online, as people will always catch on, and considering how cruel she was to numerous people who were deeply effected by her ACTUAL organized harassment, we should all be able to agree at this point that she simply doesn't need to be brought up.
Regardless, it is a shame that the "gender criticals" were so insistent on burning bridges with people who had things in common with them, because messages don't exactly get out that way... though I suppose if it's a sane enough message, mentioned by sane enough people, we should have nothing to worry about.
Thanks for the reply. Go well.
Btw, I wanted to mention: I use the term TERF a lot more sparingly now, as I do agree that it's become an actual slur that's thrown around by completely wacky trans activist types at essentially EVERYBODY.
I've been noticing a lot of the bio women who call themselves "non binary" (the types that didn't even get a haircut and aren't even tomboys), calling me a "TERF", because I won't acknowledge their "transition". Then, I had a recent interaction with two trans young people on twitter who repeatedly called both MYSELF and then Karen Straughan "TERFs" for literally no reason they would even attempt to explain.... and I figured "okay, I see megan murphy's point... this is just a word wacko activists call non-wacko activists."
Karen and I are MRAs... our sentiments are literally anti-feminist. The idea that ppl would go around using the acronym towards us is just ridiculous.
In my opinion, people like Magdelen are very fairly called TERFs, but terms need to have an actual meaning for them to be worth using.