The best quote I heard about the NY Times comes from the Economist….America’s progressive elite talking to themselves about an America that doesn’t exist.
So true. I don’t think I heard one relevant and honest thing. God, pull your head out of your ass. Like even when the black dude was like starting to knock on the door about how identity politics miiiiiiight just be fucking everything up and doesn’t actually work, the elitists stepped in and quickly started gaslighting again. More commentary about “how the county is turning” instead of all the things democrats are getting wrong. Absolutely blows my mind and drives me crazy as a democrat.
So true. I don’t think I heard one relevant and honest thing. God, pull your head out of your ass. Like even when the black dude was like starting to knock on the door about how identity politics miiiiiiight just be fucking everything up and doesn’t actually work, the elitists stepped in and quickly started gaslighting again. More commentary about “how the county is turning” instead of all the things democrats are getting wrong. Absolutely blows my mind and drives me crazy as a democrat.
So true. I don’t think I heard one relevant and honest thing. God, pull your head out of your ass. Like even when the black dude was like starting to knock on the door about how identity politics miiiiiiight just be fucking everything up and doesn’t actually work, the elitists stepped in and quickly started gaslighting again. More commentary about “how the county is turning” instead of all the things democrats are getting wrong. Absolutely blows my mind and drives me crazy as a democrat.
Because the talked about the things trump literally said out loud? Or about the things he was literally convicted for? How is this an echo chamber? The guy literally was convicted and said racist, antisemitic rhetoric repeatedly and said numerous fascist comments about being a dictator that will weaponize the military against his dissenters.
I am liberal and I cringe at the NYT and Democrat level of racist assumptions about POC. It’s hilarious to hear these fools talk like it is shocking that POC and women could possibly think differently than what they’d expect.
I'm a Democrat, the fact that Hillary, Joe and Harris are the "Best" options is nuts. They ran for "Don't vote for Trump". Absolutely crazy this is our reality
It was so unnecessary, too. There are plenty of strong potential candidates. The entitlement and elitism are out of control in the DNC. Biden should have never run, much less run again. He won once because he wasn’t Trump, but there was no way he or anyone closely connected to his administration after the pain voters have felt from the economy and other pressure points. They sold us out because they believed they had a right to decide the future. Let the people choose. They are where the power resides. Millions chose to stay home rather than stop America from falling back into Trump’s ideological control.
Perfectly said. I align myself more on the right but it was baffling to me that principle message of every candidate that opposed him was, “I can beat Trump”. It was extremely disheartening. It’s a sad state for our union if the best case we can make for our candidacy is, “I’m not the other guy” 😢
I think Pete Buttigieg is one of the best options, but he'd have no chance of winning. The same way the country wasn't ready to elect a woman as president, it also isn't ready to elect a gay man president
@@pendleton123 well, Harris already ran a much more positive script. But inclusiveness and democratic values and freedom are not the most important for many Americans. For most are realists not idealists and Republicans run a more realistic and selfish agenda - me me first, less tax. This is very American. To run a more socialist agenda is never easy. Many don’t care. My parents from older gen don’t care. Also Trump popularity is much higher than we want to accept. This also means sexism and racism is higher than ever still. I am not saying all Trump voters are like that but they tolerate it meaning they don’t see this as an issue. This is not too surprising, as democrats live in the progressive bubble of large cities, no idea what is going on in Trump counties, where I live and work and that is in a democracy state like CT and NJ. Trump everywhere here. The needs to be democratic folks in rural areas. The city is too congested and people can’t even get to the polls! Always long lines - this is always issue in states like PA and MI. I see same issue with Bernie. There are now a huge democratic population among younger people who mostly are in cities. Then of course there is a tendency for the move to extreme right and that is also a trend in other worlds.
100%. We will no longer settle for the race to the bottom. "Better than" is not good enough anymore. Because we lose a little more each time. We sacrifice a little more and we never gain any ground. If the opposition party wants to win, they better put up some opposition.
Note to the Dems: don't run an entire campaign against the other guy, tell the voters what you are offering! And make bold promises you can keep instead of calling half the nation garbage, racists, misogynists, etc...
Reality is, their best option was to be anti-Trump. Had Harris accurately explained what she and her party wanted to do, they would have lost by a far greater margin.
....because there are many people who believe that women are nurturing, peace loving entities who sit around with other women saying: 'i love you sister!" most of the time when in fact, women can be very cruel and spiteful towards other women. And this isn't shade as i am a woman who has suffered from being human. Sadly, the same problem happened in the Latino/Hispanic communities as it appears the Latino/Hispanic men voted for Trump in droves.
You keep concentrating on Trump's character flaws but not his virtues. He comes through as a leader, a force of nature. Harris came through as tepid, cautious, inadequate and unimaginative. Someone whom her team had to protect from any unscripted questions throughout the campaign because she'd screw up.
Exactly! She was so fragile and sheltered. Contrast that with Trump, even the bit where they said he came out immediately to contradict Mike Johnson & Mitch McConnell, perhaps it was stupid but he comes across as someone with balls.
I don't even want to give them the click but UA-cam disproportionately promotes their trash (wonder how that could result in an echo chamber and disconnect from reality😂)
@@konway17 Maybe they're referring to how the left wing media ignored Biden's unpopularity & obvious mental decline, and wasn't vocal about him stepping down until after his debate, eliminating the chance of having a primary determine the candidate. But i blame the Democratic party. They knew all along Biden was declining and was no longer popular option.
They just cannot admit this and it is the truth. She was just terrible at every single turn. Zero ideas, zero charisma, zero organic support from the people.
SHHH 🤫 stop bringing sense to nonsense. Let them run with the racist and sexist etc points instead of them self-reflecting on them being detached from the people.
@@Chadrick2 why blame? You have to appeal to them and if twitter does then god bless. What are normal young guys going to find in the Democrat Party, a bunch of weird woke purple hairs, trans, gay ultra liberals who hate America you really have to change to get them back...they laughed at the pitiful camo hat and white dudes for harris attempt it was so inauthentic
I mean what do young men even want? They are refusing to join the work force. Taking the jobs their fathers and grandfathers retired from. The dems did help the unions. 🤷♀️ What do they even want from Trump? I never heard them ask for anything just bitch and complain like your doing right now.
Sex pest Donald is your idol. America is so weird it must be the Puritan. Look at how they have sex in their prisons. I'm so glad I live in Ireland. I'll give it 6 months before the whole country makes BLM look like a joke. America doesnt deserve to lead the free world anymore.
No they are as smart as they think they are, the problem is smart people they don`t understand stupid people. Clearly they should have hired you to act as an experimental monkey for how stupid people react to things.
Astead says it perfectly. The democratic party's refusal to find a candidate "good enough" to beat trump is baffling and should be embarrassing for anyone affiliated with them.
Harris is/was ok, at the end of the day it is (mostly unintentional) rascism and sexism that kept people from voting for her…i mean she tried to please everyone and she still gets slack for supposedly forgetting the workers, the men, the this and that…the fact that Trump forgets women and nearly all minorities is hardly ever a (serious) issue…
Why did Joe run again when he said he would be a 1 term president? Also how could they have found a candidate in such a short time with all the deadlines looming? Harris had the benefit of already being on the primary ticket.
The Americans had a better choice in Kamala but decided to go for the racist, sexist billionaire. Kamala is not the problem. The majority of Americans are.
Biden never said he wouldn't run for a second term. After Biden dropped out, anyone was allowed to throw their hat into the ring to get voted on by the delegates at the convention. They chose not campaign and got behind Harris.
@@Chiefs555 How can that possibly be? Surely you are mistaken? Major newspapers, the media including all the networks except Fox, leading academics, stare AGs, judges, and trusted leaders like President Biden and Congressional leadership all explained how President Trump was involved in Russian collusion, serious criminal conspiracies, and was a grave threat to democracy. And they were supported by the FBI which conducted exhaustive investigations (down to Melania's underwear drawer). Surely it can't be that we were being lied to by so many important people that we all trusted. .
4 liberals sitting around a table trying to figure out why people didn't vote for their candidate, but not actually talking to any Trump voters. bound to work!
His comments about the refusal of the establishment to criticize Biden are why I’ve always felt two ways about how dangerous Trump is. On the one hand, we see everything that he has done/said. The guy is very clear about his intentions. On the other hand, the fact that establishment Democrats weren’t screaming from the rooftops about it makes me wonder how scared they actually are. They continually approach this as “business as usual” and not the existential threat that they occasionally say it is. So which is it? Is he actually as dangerous as we’re told? Or is this mostly exaggerated for the sake of votes?
I’m an Obama/Obama/Clinton/Trump/Trump voter. I recently watched an interview with Marianne Williamson and I was very impressed. I differ on policy and probably won’t vote dem again, but dems would have a real chance if authentic people like her or RFK had a chance. It doesn’t matter that they are quirky and flawed. Trump voters fully accept that Trump is quirky and flawed. But he’s REAL, and that’s what you had in Williamson and RFK. Another benefit with Williamson is that she is unabashedly spiritual and is willing to say “God”. That connects with the majority of America, even if the left is ready to leave it behind. Leaving God behind means leaving voters behind.
First time listener here and Alstead, as a Hispanic woman voter thank you for articulating my exact thoughts. This is a catastrophic failure of the DNC and if they do not take this loss as a lesson they are going to repeat this year over year.
@@Vivianagg11 American liberalism is dead for at least a generation. The democrat party is going to be like the Washington generals. While the Republicans will be the Harlem globe trotters. There is no coming back from this.
Anybody who has stepped outside of the art gala functions that establishment snobs hang out at understands it. If you work at a job that makes about $90k a year or less, you know plenty of people who will tell you exactly how they feel about all of this.
The difference is that Trump says those things. But he's completely lying. He does nothing to actually help people. But his voters aren't educated or informed enough to know that's the reality. So how do you fight widespread lies?
Trump is a true leader who asks his supporters' requests, not sending his messages to his supporters. On the other word, Trump takes a leadership style that is completely opposite of dictatorship. Trump knows exactly what his supporters want and will serve for the real owner of US government, silent majority, American people.
@@ChrisW164 if I were a donator to her campaign I would be really irritated to find out how she spent that money. So much wasteful spending in her campaign.
@ like spending $100,000 to build a custom studio in a hotel in DC for the call her daddy podcast episode. $1 million went to Oprah… $525,000 in travel and lodging for a rally in Chicago Aug 20th. Half a million dollars a day to have her advertised on the Las Vegas Sphere (In the final days of the campaign). To name a few.
Ngl I kinda get what he meant by democrat isn’t an agent of change anymore Also him saying that just putting a female candidate that come from a minority races and expecting people of the same race to vote for her without hesitation is pretty racist ironically is gold
Astead needs his own show. He clearly is the most intelligent, articulate and insightful person of this video. It's not even close. I am a Democrat. It's time to listen and learn. Stop the unintelligible, obtuse excuses.
Excellent comment. But are democrats actually interested in changing things or do they just want to try and regulate change and keep hands off on any kind of execution? And not follow-through on anything? There are waaaaaay too many academics and civil servants - unaccountable people - propping up that party and setting the agenda there. They have no skin in the game of whether or not the private sector in America succeeds or not. The VAST majority of jobs where people make their livings.
I don’t know these people, but the fact that the Dem party gives the vibe of using the “Latinx” word when every single person in the Latino community (including myself) hates that word and memes on how “made up by privileged people that think that they’re being woke” it is, tells you a whole lot about who is spearheading conversations like this and the direction of the party as a whole. We’ve got a whole comment section agreeing with Astead backing up this sentiment. I’ve been blown away by how bad the Democrat’s marketing team has been for years and years, so someone point me to their job listings cause I’m not one to complain without doing anything about it, but I’m also too mentally exhausted to google…..
That's what we need, more discussion over what words are OK and what words aren't. Nobody's tired of that. That fun never gets old! Yeah, you'll lead us out of our doldrums.
Americans want(ed) change. Back in 2016 Sanders offered that. The democrats said "nope, things are good the way they are". These same Americans who want change are desperate for it and while Trump may not be their first choice, at least it satisfies change. I wish it were more complicated but it's not. Inequality is at record highs and that is what is driving these feelings and manifested in their daily lives and personal budgets. At the fork in the road they chose change but could have chosen positive change rather than whatever this is. It's really heartbreaking.
The worst thing about the Democratic Party is they choose the nominee instead of having honest primaries. There's a "it's their time to run" after putting in work for a few decades. They have a similar problem to what the GOP had with neocons. Honestly, they're run by the progressive version of neocons now. They're for progressive domestic policy, but still want to play world police like Bush and Cheney. The Cheneys enduring endorsing Harris is proof.
Bernie Sanders is not the solution. Leftist Democrats and Bernie Bros want to believe it is, but his policies aren't supported by working class people, which the Democrats have lost. The people that support Bernie and his policies are college-educated young voters. Democrats already have that demographic. The answer is clearly not moving further left. Kamala Harris was a more progressive candidate and got destroyed
At some point they'll realize that lots of women are more anti-abortion than almost all men. Mothers love babies and feel very connected to unborn human life. Pro-abortion isn't an "all women" stance.
Why would anyone think moderate Republican white women in the suburbs would come out for Harris? It's so out of touch. That same demographic voted for Trump in 2016 and went against Hillary
@@cassandratq9301 it doesn’t matter. They don’t care. Almost everyone votes along party lines and they were never going to vote for her. I sat and listened to female coworkers (these are other, female OB/GYNs I work with) talk about how they’re voting for trump because they can’t bring themselves to vote for Harris. It does not matter.
I’m a woman who voted for T. The idea that bc as a woman, the only issue that ought to matter to me, is the right to have abortions, at any time, in any State, is simply crazy !
Here's part of 2025: Because liberal states have now become sanctuaries for abortion tourism, HHS should use every available tool, including the cutting of funds, to ensure that every state reports exactly how many abortions take place within its borders, at what gestational age of the child, for what reason, the mother’s state of residence, and by what method. It should also ensure that statistics are separated by category: spontaneous miscarriage; treatments that incidentally result in the death of a child (such as chemotherapy); stillbirths; and induced abortion. do you want your or other women's miscarriages and still births tracked and questioned by the government?
@@dennishopper1410 AOC is the only one on the political stage right now who has a chance in 2028. She is young and charismatic. Yes, the Right hates her, but that really doesn't matter at all. The Right is going to hate anybody the Left puts up. What is needed is somebody that the Left can get behind. The numbers proved nobody gave a crap about Hillary or Harris. Trump didn't win either of those elections. The Democrats lost. Biden didn't win in 2020, Trump lost because of how he handled the pandemic. In 2020 the Left could have put up a cardboard cutout of a person (which they essentially did) and it would have won. "Better than" is not good enough. No more racing to the bottom of the barrel. The Left has to stop campaigning against the other side and start campaigning for someone people can stand behind. Better or worse, emotions win elections. Positive ones, not negative ones. Trump makes his people feel hopeful. The Left makes their side feel miserable, so they stay home. AOC is extreme. But that is what could create momentum and energy. I follow politics at an above average rate, and I have no idea who "Shapiro" is, since I assume you don't mean Ben. And Mayor Pete doesn't have what it takes. Bernie is far too old. Tulsi went weird. Elizabeth Warren would be great, but I don't think she will ever live down stabbing Bernie in the back and not a strong enough public speaker. Sorry, that was long winded. But those are my thoughts anyways.
@ whoever it was it should’ve been someone viable they had put into the spotlight with plenty of time to walk us through their ideas. Biden said he’d pass the torch only to take back his word until the last minute (by a US election timeframe). Also you need to show the people progress that they can feel. The way I see it…you either show them progress is being made through actions they can see or through delusion and this time delusion won.
This podcast didn't even come close to talking about the problems in the economy. Everything is ideological in this discussion. People will vote with their wallets. Just look at interviews with poor, rural, conservative whites from 2008 about why they voted for Barack Obama.
A candidate who had so many negatives. Part of an unpopular administration, poor campaigner, uncharismatic, didn't have a resonating message and poor political instincts. In the final days she was touting the endorsement of Liz Cheney and her father, while campaigning with her. Unbelievable that a democrat running for president would do that given the disasters caused in the ME by that family.
Saying something as stupid as "democracy is at stake" just causes voters to roll their eyes The Presidency in 2024 is at stake, our system (constitutional federal republic) isn't at stake...that's not changing.
Astead Herndon is probably my favorite journalist out there right now. The Run Up this year has been SO good and insightful, he's asking the right questions, and every time he's on The Daily, his takes feel dead on based on what I and so many other people are seeing, feeling, and experiencing.
They keep talking about Trump as a racist American people rejected that because they saw all the pictures of Trump hanging out with all kinds of black people to this day. Mike Tyson is one of his best friends. Quincy Jones says he dated Trump's daughter. I don't know any racist that lets a black man date his daughter. So I think. They have to bury that one
Everyone here except Astead is a tone deaf idiot. Quit being hyper-analytical, take a step back, and believe what the voters are saying. I'm pissed that Trump won again, but The Democrat party has only had an appeal in my life time as an anti-Trump option.
Lisa knows there is more to it than how Harris's campaign was ran. Harris had no control of her gender and physical appearance. Those Americans were or are not ready for a multiracial black intelligent woman.
The New York Times' credibility has significantly diminished among certain segments of the public, particularly following their coverage of Donald Trump in 2024 presidential election. This watershed moment highlighted a growing disconnect between mainstream media outlets and a substantial portion of the American public. More people are now skeptical of traditional media institutions and their reporting, questioning the authority these publications once held in shaping public opinion. The Times, despite its historic reputation, has faced increasing criticism about its objectivity and reliability, reflecting a broader trend of eroding trust in established media organizations.
LOL at expressing concern over Trump using the Justice Department to go after his political rivals at the same time as pointing out Trump’s (unfair) convictions and impeachments by his political rivals.
If inflation was such a major factor, are people not worried about the tariffs he’s threatening? Do they not believe he will really implement them? Are people too ignorant to understand the ramifications?
@@quantenmoi yes, they are too ignorant and it is his base who will suffer , not the wealthy congress supporters and I really hope they do so maybe they will start to see straight.
@quantenmoi yes, they're too ignorant. My factory in NC was significantly affected by the steel tariffs, causing hundreds of people to lose their jobs. They still voted for Trump for "no taxes on overtime."
@@quantenmoi Are you sincerely asking if voters are ignorant? Or entire political system is based around spending massive amounts of money to manipulate people into thinking and voting along cartoonishly simpleminded lines.
Like anyone reading this as an embrace as Trump or “changing what politics about” is sticking their head in the sand. This isn’t running to him - it’s running away from libs
@@furtherthanever11no, it should have been voted on… democratically. Kamala failed miserably in her bid for election in 2020. Awful campaign by the dems from Biden to finish.
@@x27off If it were voted on in a primary, we'd have picked another old white guy... And he probably would have won. Just like Joe Biden did from his basement in 2020.
Listening from outside the US, I have to say Astead's coverage of this whole campaign (I listened to his previous episodes on the road) was very illuminating, as is his comments in the video. Friends of mine were so sure this is 100% fueled by racism, hatred of women, etc., the usual culture war arguments, but I think he's right that people are not happy with the economy and wanted to vote for the other person, given that they were offered continuity by the Democrats. And, sadly, most people just don't care enough about more "ethereal" values like democracy, rule of law, human rights, etc. Economic comfort wins every time. I just hope Trump's presidency is not a big catastrophe for us in the rest of the world.
It will be disastrous for the world. Ukraine, Taiwan- and then the after affects Europe- world economy- and Americans basically gave Elon the keys the country. INSANE!
Perhaps they care about corruption Biden/Burisma, political scapegoating J6 prisoners, manufactured Russia hoax, non crime crimes like the felony convictions, bogus impeachment, maybe they want border security and lower crime, energy independence again, unconstitutional vaccine mandates and discharging military personnel over a healthcare decision. Maybe a few of those.
Solid point. Moderate issue based senior citizen here - I think a Vance vs. Buttigieg race, reflecting much younger and more dynamic candidates, would be REALLY good for the US -- IF both sides do better re focusing far more on core issues and real problems we face, vs. identity politics, window dressing, conspiracy theories, etc. (Yes, as a moderate, I'm hitting at BOTH sides).
No, thats bullshit. He is falling into that same old trap that says democrats are the only people in politics with agency, while the Republicans are forces of nature to be contained. He is also on record saying that Roe v Wade being overturned is Democrats fault. Bullshit.
Right lol all you have to do is look at the panel 100% NOT hearing what he is saying and cutting him off. Scale that up and you have the Trump landslide
Astead is hitting the nail on the head. He seems to have the most honest and reflective person in the room. Trump became the antiestablishment candidate and appealed to the issues the American people actually cared about.
Thank you Astead for putting my feelings in to words. No thanks to Lisa for her negative comments and body language towards Astead who was there to work rather than judge.
His standpoint allows him to call those issues he mentioned for what they are. Really good discussion overall for such an early time since the election.
So true. By far the smartest in the room. In fact, Black commentators are making many of the most insightful take downs of the Democrat's belief in their Rainbow Privilege entitlement. As in Beyonce should sew up the Black vote, with Harris faking enough "y'alls" at the rallies.
The race meant a lot to women. So why didn’t you put up a woman who could get a coherent sentence out without talking about her yellow school bus. You news media people just don’t get it. She was a bum candidate. She’s never done anything in her life. She’s been given every position she’s ever had.
I have listened to every pod Astead has been in, for years now. He is one of very few who really tries to understand everyone he interacts with. With people like him in the democrat party, we wouldnt be where we unfortunatley are right now. Thank you also for a great podcast, love the daily. Henrik from Sweden.
Perhaps because the Democratic mindset assumes that Blacks would be onside, some Black commentators feel an obligation to be more insightful in their analysis - more skeptical of the Dem narratives.
The Democratic party needs to take a good hard look inward and they need to change. They need to move towards populism because they simply aren't connecting with average Americans on a fundamental level, and blaming it on Biden, sexism, racism, or anything else will be a huge mistake. Americans have shown they aren't happy with the system and they want the system to change.
I agree, we need to hone in on our meassage regarding sex changes for small children, I think we needed to address the nuances of Gender Care for Minors, I think it freaked a lot of parents out when Shcool teachers are openly sexulizing kids, maybe America wasn't ready for that, just saying....
Change from what? From talking about policies based on reality and data rather than appealing to emotions just to get elected? Instead, Dems should let Trump whatever it does, and let the American suffer the consequences not their ignorance and stupidity for trying to live in a delusional world such thinking that the economy is in bad shape. (Exit polls said 67% voters thought the economy was no good or really bad) If the people don't experience the results of their decisions, they will not change. Let the people see the reality. I hope GOP now repeals Obamacare. Let's see all these non college working class people many of whom depend on Medicaid or subsidized ACA plans and predicting condition lose their insurance. If I were a Dem rep or senator I would vote for repeal. I hope the Senate will get rid of filibuster rubbing on the face of Munchin and Sinema and pass a national abortion ban (and Trump will sign it after pressure from Christians) and let's see the results for the people who voted for abortion rights in Florida (to 57%) and also voted for Scott (57%)and Trump (56%) see the stick up your behind for their stupidity. Until you let this run its course for the people suffer the consequences of their votes, everything you do as Dems to block the suffering will be temporary. Let the people see the consequences. Let them lose their healthcare, unions and bargaining power, let them lose their rights.
No primary, party of war, and not acknowledging chronic disease are my top 3 as to why democrats are totally out of touch. Can't run on Donald Trump bad with no common sense clear plan to make anything better what so ever. I don't expect politicians to fix anything in my life but at least run on some kind of plan to make average Americans life better in any way. Donald Trump bad doesn't help anyone.
Trump the only president gave x10 support for black University they don't need to go back in the white house every year that is big deal for black community, gasoline average $2 or less a gallon in his time.
@@iceescape An entertainer garnering support acting like a roast comedian and speaking truth isn't the same as legacy media alienating half of America with obvious lies. Calling both examples "insults" is itself insulting.
@@Renaisance-jb5jx Just because a person is a black man or daughter of immigrants is not a reason to listen. The reason to listen is because the individual has a good idea.
The projection of your totalitarianism is strong. You represent a party that didn't give your voters a choice. Do you not see the screaming cognitive dissonance of your contempt for democracy that is underscored with your vicious, collectivist, totalitarian Manichean thirst for power that will use the lethal force of govt. to do what ever it takes to crush dissent.
Because people are sick and tired of elites on both parties. Trump is essentially a human grenade, and if he can make these media and academic snobs squirm people will take it.
One possibility is that Kamala was such a heinous candidate that hid from scrutiny and could only parrot a handful of talking points (whether appropriate or not) goes a long way to explaining that performance. She never had any more substance than her hyena persona.
Maybe the Democratic message isn't what people want, you know it's probably that simple. Sometimes people ignore the obviously logical reason for something.
this victory was a big middle finger to the Dems for the last several years of condescending rhetoric. We've been so sick of you guys for so long and finally had the chance to show you how we feel.
This was a really good pod tbh. All of the points are valid and the critiques of the democrats are legit. Blaming the voters is a cope, this was a resounding DNC failure.
The voters knowingly voted for a felon who tried to overturn the last election because his ego couldn't handle being a loser. The voters have responsibility for their choice.
A democracy doesn’t function if you infantilize voters. In 2016 you could chalk it up to it being an honest mistake, in 2024 no voter should need to be told why it’s a mistake to elect this man. At some point Americans need to look in the mirror and take accountability for their own beliefs and stop blaming others.
In a sea of completely out of touch political commentary, Astead came thru like the freshest breath of air, man. So on point and I couldn't agree more with his analysis.
Astead's critiques are fresh and clear, ones I haven't heard yet and make sense he sees through the matrix. He is showing accountability and a real insight into the democratic party that needs to be discussed further
Usually podcast settings look different from what I imagined but this is pretty much spot on. The host’s face doesn’t really match the voice I had in my head though lol
Astead's analysis is correct. This is a simple story. The economy is broken in America for everyone but the top. People are existentially hurting. That's why this happened.
And again, if you think the "economy is broken" because of the Democrats, I really don't think you should be voting. Congrats on learning nothing in four plus decades.
People didn't like where the country was headed, but when Kamala was asked if there was anything she would have changed over the past 4 years, she said "Nothing". If she could have even given a few small things, like the Afghanistan pullout, closing the border earlier, anything about the Israel and Gaza mess etc. it would have made her seem like she was going to actually do something. She basically said she was going to continue exactly how President Biden is going right now.
It all drills down to two things…1. The dems have veered wayyy too far out of the American mainstream and need to tack back to the middle, and 2) They need to nominate a candidate with enough mental acuity to articulate policy issues. They did neither this time around. Americans didn’t like the product or the one pushing it.
Eh, unusually high turnout in 2020 with lots of people cooped up at home bathing in politics thanks to COVID. If there was apathy, it was only on one side.
The economy is great though. My wealth has skyrocketed in the past 4 years. People need to learn how to save and invest instead of blaming the president for their problems.
With worse economy? Do Americans understand numbers? It's hard to believe that you do. Your inflation is way down compared to anywhere else in the world. Thank Biden for that. And no, inflation wasn't Biden's fault. It was a global phenomenon and still is. Stock market is through the roof and you have more people working than ever. Most countries across the pond would switch with you in a heartbeat. But don't worry: here comes the Tariff Man with his tax breaks to burn it all down in four years again. After four decades of trickle down and driving the economy over the cliff, if your vote for the GOP is based on economy, I don't think you are smart enough to vote. JFC America, be better. Or at least decent or even a little bit informed. Loud and stupid is not a good look.
The best quote I heard about the NY Times comes from the Economist….America’s progressive elite talking to themselves about an America that doesn’t exist.
Must be great to be so out of touch yet prognosticate and opine so confidently.
These people are out of touch
These guys are the ones that represent the worst of the left and should be removed from all influential opining
And they get paid good to be so clueless
I don't understand these people
They claim to want & believe in Democracy
But they expect their side to win every single time
THAT'S NOT A DEMOCRACY
Elite echo chamber at its worst. So clueless.
But the comments section is 🔥 well done you and almost everyone else.
So true. I don’t think I heard one relevant and honest thing. God, pull your head out of your ass. Like even when the black dude was like starting to knock on the door about how identity politics miiiiiiight just be fucking everything up and doesn’t actually work, the elitists stepped in and quickly started gaslighting again. More commentary about “how the county is turning” instead of all the things democrats are getting wrong. Absolutely blows my mind and drives me crazy as a democrat.
This would be a great SNL skit if the SNL crew weren't just as bad.
So true. I don’t think I heard one relevant and honest thing. God, pull your head out of your ass. Like even when the black dude was like starting to knock on the door about how identity politics miiiiiiight just be fucking everything up and doesn’t actually work, the elitists stepped in and quickly started gaslighting again. More commentary about “how the county is turning” instead of all the things democrats are getting wrong. Absolutely blows my mind and drives me crazy as a democrat.
So true. I don’t think I heard one relevant and honest thing. God, pull your head out of your ass. Like even when the black dude was like starting to knock on the door about how identity politics miiiiiiight just be fucking everything up and doesn’t actually work, the elitists stepped in and quickly started gaslighting again. More commentary about “how the county is turning” instead of all the things democrats are getting wrong. Absolutely blows my mind and drives me crazy as a democrat.
Man, this podcast is deep echo chamber of the left/liberals....pretty sad :(
Because the talked about the things trump literally said out loud? Or about the things he was literally convicted for? How is this an echo chamber? The guy literally was convicted and said racist, antisemitic rhetoric repeatedly and said numerous fascist comments about being a dictator that will weaponize the military against his dissenters.
sadly.
Astead seems to be the most tuned in because he goes around the country and talks to people from all sides.
Did you not see "New York Times" in the channel name?
Just driving deeper too. They don't seem to understand democracy when it doesn't go their way ha ha
These people are so much smarter, moral and virtuous than the rest of us. Just ask them.
I am liberal and I cringe at the NYT and Democrat level of racist assumptions about POC. It’s hilarious to hear these fools talk like it is shocking that POC and women could possibly think differently than what they’d expect.
Think you might be courtin the leftist side ;) join the dark side.
The fact that the term POC exists is innately insulting, to me. We're all just P's.
No. You must accept the name that they give you and your identity group. Rejecting it is bigoted!
Astead’s entire point is that all POC don’t think similarly. Did you not watch the video
@@konway17 And this is revelation to the leftists somehow instead of being the basic common knowledge
It’s like watching cats talk about what is wrong with dogs. Great comedy.
I know they are lost as geese
Great analogy
Brilliant
I laughed out loud (as I did listening to these clowns).
@@frederickgleaton1410thanks! I’m actually a cat person but alas!! 🎉
I'm a Democrat, the fact that Hillary, Joe and Harris are the "Best" options is nuts. They ran for "Don't vote for Trump". Absolutely crazy this is our reality
It was so unnecessary, too. There are plenty of strong potential candidates. The entitlement and elitism are out of control in the DNC. Biden should have never run, much less run again. He won once because he wasn’t Trump, but there was no way he or anyone closely connected to his administration after the pain voters have felt from the economy and other pressure points. They sold us out because they believed they had a right to decide the future. Let the people choose. They are where the power resides. Millions chose to stay home rather than stop America from falling back into Trump’s ideological control.
Perfectly said. I align myself more on the right but it was baffling to me that principle message of every candidate that opposed him was, “I can beat Trump”. It was extremely disheartening. It’s a sad state for our union if the best case we can make for our candidacy is, “I’m not the other guy” 😢
I think Pete Buttigieg is one of the best options, but he'd have no chance of winning. The same way the country wasn't ready to elect a woman as president, it also isn't ready to elect a gay man president
@@pendleton123 well, Harris already ran a much more positive script. But inclusiveness and democratic values and freedom are not the most important for many Americans. For most are realists not idealists and Republicans run a more realistic and selfish agenda - me me first, less tax. This is very American. To run a more socialist agenda is never easy. Many don’t care. My parents from older gen don’t care. Also Trump popularity is much higher than we want to accept. This also means sexism and racism is higher than ever still. I am not saying all Trump voters are like that but they tolerate it meaning they don’t see this as an issue. This is not too surprising, as democrats live in the progressive bubble of large cities, no idea what is going on in Trump counties, where I live and work and that is in a democracy state like CT and NJ. Trump everywhere here. The needs to be democratic folks in rural areas. The city is too congested and people can’t even get to the polls! Always long lines - this is always issue in states like PA and MI. I see same issue with Bernie. There are now a huge democratic population among younger people who mostly are in cities. Then of course there is a tendency for the move to extreme right and that is also a trend in other worlds.
100%. We will no longer settle for the race to the bottom. "Better than" is not good enough anymore. Because we lose a little more each time. We sacrifice a little more and we never gain any ground. If the opposition party wants to win, they better put up some opposition.
Note to the Dems: don't run an entire campaign against the other guy, tell the voters what you are offering! And make bold promises you can keep instead of calling half the nation garbage, racists, misogynists, etc...
@marwanjuma2012 They thought$1 billion dollars and Opra would cover over those and other issues.
Reality is, their best option was to be anti-Trump. Had Harris accurately explained what she and her party wanted to do, they would have lost by a far greater margin.
they did
Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving Party
@@Handforkira Actually he $1.5 billion did not cover over Kamala's incompetence. Shh lost big.
Why are they acting like women didn't vote for Trump?
Because they live in a Land of delusion where it's unacceptable to even Define what a woman is
White women specifically broke for Trump.
Delusion is the answer
....because there are many people who believe that women are nurturing, peace loving entities who sit around with other women saying: 'i love you sister!" most of the time when in fact, women can be very cruel and spiteful towards other women. And this isn't shade as i am a woman who has suffered from being human. Sadly, the same problem happened in the Latino/Hispanic communities as it appears the Latino/Hispanic men voted for Trump in droves.
Because they're associated with the New York Times
You keep concentrating on Trump's character flaws but not his virtues. He comes through as a leader, a force of nature. Harris came through as tepid, cautious, inadequate and unimaginative. Someone whom her team had to protect from any unscripted questions throughout the campaign because she'd screw up.
Exactly! She was so fragile and sheltered. Contrast that with Trump, even the bit where they said he came out immediately to contradict Mike Johnson & Mitch McConnell, perhaps it was stupid but he comes across as someone with balls.
Well stated.
They could never objectively judge him. TDS at its worst.
@@rampage241gtfo with that nonsense. To say you can hold anyone else to a standard we hold Trump to is delusional.
It seems now Mr. Trump has won three elections in a row. Now do your reporting.
Nobody is interested to hear what the NY Times thinks at this point. You did this. Own it.
@Flute1-075@@Flute1-075 Did what?
I don't even want to give them the click but UA-cam disproportionately promotes their trash (wonder how that could result in an echo chamber and disconnect from reality😂)
How could a news organization be responsible for an entire election? lol
@@konway17 Maybe they're referring to how the left wing media ignored Biden's unpopularity & obvious mental decline, and wasn't vocal about him stepping down until after his debate, eliminating the chance of having a primary determine the candidate. But i blame the Democratic party. They knew all along Biden was declining and was no longer popular option.
@@beemo9 the NYT didn’t ignore this though. One of the journalist here talked about his unpopular frequently
Nothing broke Kamala Harris’ way because she was an awful candidate that ran an awful campaign.
This is #1 reason and the left is NOT stating this very obvious fact. Denial to the utmost.
They just cannot admit this and it is the truth. She was just terrible at every single turn. Zero ideas, zero charisma, zero organic support from the people.
Democrats have cast young men aside. They isolated 30% of the population that is struggling. It didn't pay out.
SHHH 🤫 stop bringing sense to nonsense. Let them run with the racist and sexist etc points instead of them self-reflecting on them being detached from the people.
Blame twitter for that
@@Chadrick2 why blame? You have to appeal to them and if twitter does then god bless. What are normal young guys going to find in the Democrat Party, a bunch of weird woke purple hairs, trans, gay ultra liberals who hate America
you really have to change to get them back...they laughed at the pitiful camo hat and white dudes for harris attempt it was so inauthentic
I mean what do young men even want? They are refusing to join the work force. Taking the jobs their fathers and grandfathers retired from. The dems did help the unions. 🤷♀️ What do they even want from Trump? I never heard them ask for anything just bitch and complain like your doing right now.
Sex pest Donald is your idol. America is so weird it must be the Puritan. Look at how they have sex in their prisons. I'm so glad I live in Ireland. I'll give it 6 months before the whole country makes BLM look like a joke. America doesnt deserve to lead the free world anymore.
Do a poor job for four years, then give us a mediocre candidate and expect everyone to toe the line?
How entitled is that?
May you suffer the consequences
💯
Look at that table. Bunch of liberals stuck in a bubble.
What was the poor job that Biden did?
Below mediocre
Time to look in the mirror. You are not as sane and smart as you thought you were.
No they are as smart as they think they are, the problem is smart people they don`t understand stupid people. Clearly they should have hired you to act as an experimental monkey for how stupid people react to things.
Gosh as a non american I am always stunned by some of the blindness of these "democratic elites"
Astead says it perfectly.
The democratic party's refusal to find a candidate "good enough" to beat trump is baffling and should be embarrassing for anyone affiliated with them.
Harris is/was ok, at the end of the day it is (mostly unintentional) rascism and sexism that kept people from voting for her…i mean she tried to please everyone and she still gets slack for supposedly forgetting the workers, the men, the this and that…the fact that Trump forgets women and nearly all minorities is hardly ever a (serious) issue…
Why did Joe run again when he said he would be a 1 term president? Also how could they have found a candidate in such a short time with all the deadlines looming? Harris had the benefit of already being on the primary ticket.
The Americans had a better choice in Kamala but decided to go for the racist, sexist billionaire. Kamala is not the problem. The majority of Americans are.
Biden never said he wouldn't run for a second term.
After Biden dropped out, anyone was allowed to throw their hat into the ring to get voted on by the delegates at the convention. They chose not campaign and got behind Harris.
@@ChetHanks-eh1mdhe ran again because of his own ego. He wanted to beat Trump again.
Hey Democrats, try having a legitimate primary next time.
@robertmckinney1898 Or don't open the border or promote opening girls bathrooms to boys.
They haven't had one since before 2016. They may not remember how.
@@oldpurplebelt THAT CAN"T BE, THE DEMS ARE THE PARTY OF SAVING DEMOCRACY.
@oldpurplebelt they didn't have one in 08 either. 2012 was the last year i voted for a democrats for thia reason alone.
@@Chiefs555 How can that possibly be? Surely you are mistaken? Major newspapers, the media including all the networks except Fox, leading academics, stare AGs, judges, and trusted leaders like President Biden and Congressional leadership all explained how President Trump was involved in Russian collusion, serious criminal conspiracies, and was a grave threat to democracy. And they were supported by the FBI which conducted exhaustive investigations (down to Melania's underwear drawer). Surely it can't be that we were being lied to by so many important people that we all trusted. .
4 liberals sitting around a table trying to figure out why people didn't vote for their candidate, but not actually talking to any Trump voters. bound to work!
Dementia joe has sexual assault allegations too by tara reade btw. But u never covered that. Hhhhmmm wonder why
And so, so many more
When Astead said "stop telling us the economy is great" that was a direct shot at the Times.
Lesson from The Wire: when you come for the King, don’t miss. Trump has all rights to go after his enemies. They tried to put that man in jail.
Hell not just that, they tried to assassinate him!!!
Astead is the only person speaking truth here. I've had all these conversations with friends. He absolutely had his finger on the pulse.
I don't think the others have ever left Manhattan
The host and Lisa spoke over him. Reflecting exactly the mistakes the Democrats made in this election.
His comments about the refusal of the establishment to criticize Biden are why I’ve always felt two ways about how dangerous Trump is. On the one hand, we see everything that he has done/said. The guy is very clear about his intentions. On the other hand, the fact that establishment Democrats weren’t screaming from the rooftops about it makes me wonder how scared they actually are. They continually approach this as “business as usual” and not the existential threat that they occasionally say it is. So which is it? Is he actually as dangerous as we’re told? Or is this mostly exaggerated for the sake of votes?
Who is Astead?
@@Skindred727the black man.
This is like watching my girlfriend try to answer a question about the subtlety's of a 4-3 NFL defense.
I’m an Obama/Obama/Clinton/Trump/Trump voter. I recently watched an interview with Marianne Williamson and I was very impressed. I differ on policy and probably won’t vote dem again, but dems would have a real chance if authentic people like her or RFK had a chance. It doesn’t matter that they are quirky and flawed. Trump voters fully accept that Trump is quirky and flawed. But he’s REAL, and that’s what you had in Williamson and RFK. Another benefit with Williamson is that she is unabashedly spiritual and is willing to say “God”. That connects with the majority of America, even if the left is ready to leave it behind. Leaving God behind means leaving voters behind.
Right and echonomy.
I will never vote democratic again no matter what. I regret my whole life of voting democrat.
First time listener here and Alstead, as a Hispanic woman voter thank you for articulating my exact thoughts. This is a catastrophic failure of the DNC and if they do not take this loss as a lesson they are going to repeat this year over year.
@@Vivianagg11 American liberalism is dead for at least a generation. The democrat party is going to be like the Washington generals. While the Republicans will be the Harlem globe trotters. There is no coming back from this.
You're assuming, incorrectly, that voting will ever be an option again. This is not assured.
I think it's also a failure of the American education system.
@@heracliteanflux1 Voting will be kept around. It will just be ceremonial like in Russia. They need to go through the motions and the theater of it.
Two-party system will be rendered an anachronism. Dissent will be crushed and/or papers like the NYT bought out as mouthpieces. Voting? Ha
Astead has great takes. He understands what's going on better than the rest of them
He has more courage than the rest.
Anybody who has stepped outside of the art gala functions that establishment snobs hang out at understands it. If you work at a job that makes about $90k a year or less, you know plenty of people who will tell you exactly how they feel about all of this.
@@MurrayLake And he has been out on the road, meeting the voters.
I agree
The difference is that Trump says those things. But he's completely lying. He does nothing to actually help people. But his voters aren't educated or informed enough to know that's the reality. So how do you fight widespread lies?
"We've proven to everyone we don't know anything about politics. Let's sprew some more bs folks"
Sprew.
We have a new English word, folks. It's a good one Jjack. And I like your post.
Peace to you !
Trump is a true leader who asks his supporters' requests, not sending his messages to his supporters. On the other word, Trump takes a leadership style that is completely opposite of dictatorship. Trump knows exactly what his supporters want and will serve for the real owner of US government, silent majority, American people.
Exactly. Trump is Ceasar and the DNC and GOP are the corrupt Senate.
Sitting through the campaign ads on youtube, Trump told us to donate money only if we could afford it. Harris told us to give her money.
@@ChrisW164 if I were a donator to her campaign I would be really irritated to find out how she spent that money. So much wasteful spending in her campaign.
@@kristinahernandez564 Like what?
@ like spending $100,000 to build a custom studio in a hotel in DC for the call her daddy podcast episode. $1 million went to Oprah… $525,000 in travel and lodging for a rally in Chicago Aug 20th. Half a million dollars a day to have her advertised on the Las Vegas Sphere (In the final days of the campaign). To name a few.
Give Astead an hour to talk to us directly please with no interuptions. He knows whats up.
Ngl I kinda get what he meant by
democrat isn’t an agent of change anymore
Also him saying that just putting a female candidate that come from a minority races and expecting people of the same race to vote for her without hesitation is pretty racist ironically is gold
This!
Yes, please. He gets it. The rest of you don’t.
He had his own podcast with NYT, but the format was evidently much too constraining. Would have been good to have his frank thoughts in the moment!
Astead's voice is so fucking annoying
Aested is sooooooo right. Biden promised something he did not do - develop other political leaders.
Instead of developing political leaders, why not go away from identity politics and come up with real policies?
@@SlasherNLthat’s what the political leaders would do.
@@SlasherNLThat’s what they were saying
Biden is the main and only reason why Dems lost the election
He's totally on point.
I used to trust NYT. Not anymore. Elitist news paper out of touch with common man fears and problems
Astead needs his own show. He clearly is the most intelligent, articulate and insightful person of this video. It's not even close. I am a Democrat. It's time to listen and learn. Stop the unintelligible, obtuse excuses.
he has his own show!
“The Run Up” is his show. :)
well your in luck he's had his own pod for over a year
Excellent comment. But are democrats actually interested in changing things or do they just want to try and regulate change and keep hands off on any kind of execution? And not follow-through on anything? There are waaaaaay too many academics and civil servants - unaccountable people - propping up that party and setting the agenda there. They have no skin in the game of whether or not the private sector in America succeeds or not. The VAST majority of jobs where people make their livings.
Astead has his own show - The Run Up
I don’t know these people, but the fact that the Dem party gives the vibe of using the “Latinx” word when every single person in the Latino community (including myself) hates that word and memes on how “made up by privileged people that think that they’re being woke” it is, tells you a whole lot about who is spearheading conversations like this and the direction of the party as a whole. We’ve got a whole comment section agreeing with Astead backing up this sentiment.
I’ve been blown away by how bad the Democrat’s marketing team has been for years and years, so someone point me to their job listings cause I’m not one to complain without doing anything about it, but I’m also too mentally exhausted to google…..
That's what we need, more discussion over what words are OK and what words aren't. Nobody's tired of that. That fun never gets old! Yeah, you'll lead us out of our doldrums.
@michaeldonnan6767 not referring to the literal words, it’s the vibes. The reading between the lines.
Americans want(ed) change. Back in 2016 Sanders offered that. The democrats said "nope, things are good the way they are". These same Americans who want change are desperate for it and while Trump may not be their first choice, at least it satisfies change. I wish it were more complicated but it's not. Inequality is at record highs and that is what is driving these feelings and manifested in their daily lives and personal budgets. At the fork in the road they chose change but could have chosen positive change rather than whatever this is. It's really heartbreaking.
The worst thing about the Democratic Party is they choose the nominee instead of having honest primaries. There's a "it's their time to run" after putting in work for a few decades. They have a similar problem to what the GOP had with neocons. Honestly, they're run by the progressive version of neocons now. They're for progressive domestic policy, but still want to play world police like Bush and Cheney. The Cheneys enduring endorsing Harris is proof.
Spot on comment
@@captainbobsparrow9092yep i reluctantly voted for Harris
Bernie Sanders is not the solution. Leftist Democrats and Bernie Bros want to believe it is, but his policies aren't supported by working class people, which the Democrats have lost. The people that support Bernie and his policies are college-educated young voters. Democrats already have that demographic. The answer is clearly not moving further left. Kamala Harris was a more progressive candidate and got destroyed
they should have never backstabbed bernie
At some point they'll realize that lots of women are more anti-abortion than almost all men. Mothers love babies and feel very connected to unborn human life. Pro-abortion isn't an "all women" stance.
They say they are 0ro choice, and this means having the baby should be one, but nope , the choice is only between various ways to not have a baby.
Thank you! We also love our sons!!
Why would anyone think moderate Republican white women in the suburbs would come out for Harris? It's so out of touch. That same demographic voted for Trump in 2016 and went against Hillary
Abortion.
Insurrection.
Foreign policy.
@@cassandratq9301 it doesn’t matter. They don’t care. Almost everyone votes along party lines and they were never going to vote for her. I sat and listened to female coworkers (these are other, female OB/GYNs I work with) talk about how they’re voting for trump because they can’t bring themselves to vote for Harris.
It does not matter.
She dismissed all questions about being a colored woman, that shows you how much she cared and catered to women.
Because women are dying
@@thepapschmearmdas women, I hope they never need female reproduction healthcare. How anyone could put a rapist in office is a beyond me...
I’m a woman who voted for T. The idea that bc as a woman, the only issue that ought to matter to me, is the right to have abortions, at any time, in any State, is simply crazy !
Read about pregnant deaths in Texas; at least 3 women died from doctors waiting, on pregnancies they wanted
you're right. but that's not the only freedom at risk for women.
Here's part of 2025: Because liberal states have now become sanctuaries for abortion tourism, HHS should use every available tool, including the cutting of funds, to ensure that every state reports exactly how many abortions take place within its borders, at what gestational age of the child, for what reason, the mother’s state of residence, and by what method. It should also ensure that statistics are separated by category: spontaneous miscarriage; treatments that incidentally result in the death of a child (such as chemotherapy); stillbirths; and induced abortion.
do you want your or other women's miscarriages and still births tracked and questioned by the government?
there's a Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood (HMRF) Program but not a Motherhood one. odd.
It gets rid of the Head Start Programs
My god, Astead hit the nail perfectly. He's the first guy on the "other side" that sees clearly the motivations of the Trump voters.
Why don't they ever have an actual Republican in these round tables? They take accusations as fact. This is why they never learn.
Astead needs to be allowed to speak for an hour without interruption. He's so on point here.
24:01 This. Every time a Democrat said, "the economy is fine," they might as well have been waving a Trump flag over their head.
To quote a leftist...Its the economy, stupid....😂😂😂😂
I was about to comment about Astead's accuracy and am intrigued but not surprised by the amount of people agreeing with him. He gets it.
Genuinely, who is the right candidate? Is it Shapiro? Mayor Pete?
@@dennishopper1410 AOC is the only one on the political stage right now who has a chance in 2028.
She is young and charismatic. Yes, the Right hates her, but that really doesn't matter at all. The Right is going to hate anybody the Left puts up. What is needed is somebody that the Left can get behind. The numbers proved nobody gave a crap about Hillary or Harris. Trump didn't win either of those elections. The Democrats lost. Biden didn't win in 2020, Trump lost because of how he handled the pandemic. In 2020 the Left could have put up a cardboard cutout of a person (which they essentially did) and it would have won.
"Better than" is not good enough. No more racing to the bottom of the barrel. The Left has to stop campaigning against the other side and start campaigning for someone people can stand behind. Better or worse, emotions win elections. Positive ones, not negative ones. Trump makes his people feel hopeful. The Left makes their side feel miserable, so they stay home.
AOC is extreme. But that is what could create momentum and energy. I follow politics at an above average rate, and I have no idea who "Shapiro" is, since I assume you don't mean Ben. And Mayor Pete doesn't have what it takes. Bernie is far too old. Tulsi went weird. Elizabeth Warren would be great, but I don't think she will ever live down stabbing Bernie in the back and not a strong enough public speaker.
Sorry, that was long winded. But those are my thoughts anyways.
@ whoever it was it should’ve been someone viable they had put into the spotlight with plenty of time to walk us through their ideas. Biden said he’d pass the torch only to take back his word until the last minute (by a US election timeframe). Also you need to show the people progress that they can feel. The way I see it…you either show them progress is being made through actions they can see or through delusion and this time delusion won.
*It’s like watching cats talk about what is wrong with dogs.*
This podcast didn't even come close to talking about the problems in the economy. Everything is ideological in this discussion. People will vote with their wallets. Just look at interviews with poor, rural, conservative whites from 2008 about why they voted for Barack Obama.
"Democracy is at stake" -its why we selected the most unpopular vice-president in modern history as our candidate without a primary
Yet he won the popular vote? He's NEVER won it!
A candidate who had so many negatives. Part of an unpopular administration, poor campaigner, uncharismatic, didn't have a resonating message and poor political instincts. In the final days she was touting the endorsement of Liz Cheney and her father, while campaigning with her. Unbelievable that a democrat running for president would do that given the disasters caused in the ME by that family.
Saying something as stupid as "democracy is at stake" just causes voters to roll their eyes
The Presidency in 2024 is at stake, our system (constitutional federal republic) isn't at stake...that's not changing.
Democrats behaved like fascists during Covid and I will never forgive them. They don't even know what democracy means.
Hey guys. First time, last time.
Just here for the cope.
Truth 😂👏👏👏
Same 🥂
same. their loser tears are like honey.
What could possibly go wrong pushing for open borders, war, high taxes, men in women’s sports, race baiting, and legalized street crime.
Astead Herndon is probably my favorite journalist out there right now. The Run Up this year has been SO good and insightful, he's asking the right questions, and every time he's on The Daily, his takes feel dead on based on what I and so many other people are seeing, feeling, and experiencing.
Astead’s analysis is spot on here.
Unfortunately I don't think anyone in the Democratic party will make that same connection or make any change to do better next time.
it was really obvious, kamala was the worst choice they could have made. She would never win the primaries
He's the only one who gets it
They keep talking about Trump as a racist American people rejected that because they saw all the pictures of Trump hanging out with all kinds of black people to this day. Mike Tyson is one of his best friends. Quincy Jones says he dated Trump's daughter. I don't know any racist that lets a black man date his daughter. So I think. They have to bury that one
Everyone here except Astead is a tone deaf idiot. Quit being hyper-analytical, take a step back, and believe what the voters are saying. I'm pissed that Trump won again, but The Democrat party has only had an appeal in my life time as an anti-Trump option.
Jesus, these people are so detached.
New York Times has A LOT to answer for.
They're not as relevant as they like to think
Astead is spot on and Lisa interrupts and dismisses him. Good job helping him prove his point!
Lisa knows there is more to it than how Harris's campaign was ran. Harris had no control of her gender and physical appearance. Those Americans were or are not ready for a multiracial black intelligent woman.
Glad others saw it
People are uncomfortable with that type of deconstruction of what they believed to be true, it's hard for people to concede even when it's obvious
Nonsense. Astead got the last word and everyone interrupted each other. You just don't want to hear what a woman has to say.
@@FreshLounger Lol... just straight out accuse a person you have never met of being a sexist. Obviously a lefty.
The New York Times' credibility has significantly diminished among certain segments of the public, particularly following their coverage of Donald Trump in 2024 presidential election. This watershed moment highlighted a growing disconnect between mainstream media outlets and a substantial portion of the American public. More people are now skeptical of traditional media institutions and their reporting, questioning the authority these publications once held in shaping public opinion. The Times, despite its historic reputation, has faced increasing criticism about its objectivity and reliability, reflecting a broader trend of eroding trust in established media organizations.
@USONOFAV Absolutely and now there are alternatives to the legacy media.
LOL at expressing concern over Trump using the Justice Department to go after his political rivals at the same time as pointing out Trump’s (unfair) convictions and impeachments by his political rivals.
The black guy nailed it at 24:00. That is exactly why dems lost and will continue to lose.
If inflation was such a major factor, are people not worried about the tariffs he’s threatening? Do they not believe he will really implement them? Are people too ignorant to understand the ramifications?
Absolutely!
@@quantenmoi yes, they are too ignorant and it is his base who will suffer , not the wealthy congress supporters and I really hope they do so maybe they will start to see straight.
@quantenmoi yes, they're too ignorant. My factory in NC was significantly affected by the steel tariffs, causing hundreds of people to lose their jobs. They still voted for Trump for "no taxes on overtime."
@@quantenmoi Are you sincerely asking if voters are ignorant? Or entire political system is based around spending massive amounts of money to manipulate people into thinking and voting along cartoonishly simpleminded lines.
5:35 the country didn’t move right. The left moved left.
Like anyone reading this as an embrace as Trump or “changing what politics about” is sticking their head in the sand. This isn’t running to him - it’s running away from libs
The arrogance of the Democratic Party to ‘hand’ the nomination to Harris spoke volumes
They did it with Hillary and squashed Bernie. That's the way they do things.
IKR. They should have given it to another old white guy in his 80's. That seems to be the winning ticket.
It wouldn't matter if it is a white guy. Any incumbent rerunning during an economic downturn (or perception thereof) historically mean they will lose.
@@furtherthanever11no, it should have been voted on… democratically. Kamala failed miserably in her bid for election in 2020. Awful campaign by the dems from Biden to finish.
@@x27off If it were voted on in a primary, we'd have picked another old white guy... And he probably would have won. Just like Joe Biden did from his basement in 2020.
What concerns me, is that these people honestly believe themselves intelligent. Intelligence requires knowledge, not opinion
Never Confuse Education With Intelligence, You Can Have A PhD and Still Be An Idiot
By Richard Feynman
Listening from outside the US, I have to say Astead's coverage of this whole campaign (I listened to his previous episodes on the road) was very illuminating, as is his comments in the video. Friends of mine were so sure this is 100% fueled by racism, hatred of women, etc., the usual culture war arguments, but I think he's right that people are not happy with the economy and wanted to vote for the other person, given that they were offered continuity by the Democrats. And, sadly, most people just don't care enough about more "ethereal" values like democracy, rule of law, human rights, etc. Economic comfort wins every time. I just hope Trump's presidency is not a big catastrophe for us in the rest of the world.
It will be disastrous for the world. Ukraine, Taiwan- and then the after affects Europe- world economy- and Americans basically gave Elon the keys the country. INSANE!
Perhaps they care about corruption Biden/Burisma, political scapegoating J6 prisoners, manufactured Russia hoax, non crime crimes like the felony convictions, bogus impeachment, maybe they want border security and lower crime, energy independence again, unconstitutional vaccine mandates and discharging military personnel over a healthcare decision. Maybe a few of those.
God help Americans and the world. I’m not religious by the way- but we may need it.
And I’m not American
Spot on. I worry for the world, and I'm ashamed of my country.
Staunch conservative here. If the next democrat Presidential hopeful hires Astead, listens to him, Vance's chance will be slimmer.
Solid point. Moderate issue based senior citizen here - I think a Vance vs. Buttigieg race, reflecting much younger and more dynamic candidates, would be REALLY good for the US -- IF both sides do better re focusing far more on core issues and real problems we face, vs. identity politics, window dressing, conspiracy theories, etc. (Yes, as a moderate, I'm hitting at BOTH sides).
@@rogergeyer9851pete failure in pa actually bring out vance
But they will of course defer to people like Lisa 😂
Why is Astead not talking all the time? He's cooking some Michelin star solutions and the other guys cut him off.
he has his own podcast! The Run Up. It's great. He's been spot-on from day 1
No, thats bullshit. He is falling into that same old trap that says democrats are the only people in politics with agency, while the Republicans are forces of nature to be contained. He is also on record saying that Roe v Wade being overturned is Democrats fault. Bullshit.
I felt the same
Right lol all you have to do is look at the panel 100% NOT hearing what he is saying and cutting him off. Scale that up and you have the Trump landslide
Congrats on inadvertently describing the Democrat party as a whole
I also believe Trump has a mandate to get our country back on track. Let's Go Trump! God bless America 🇺🇸
Astead is hitting the nail on the head. He seems to have the most honest and reflective person in the room. Trump became the antiestablishment candidate and appealed to the issues the American people actually cared about.
Thank you Astead for putting my feelings in to words. No thanks to Lisa for her negative comments and body language towards Astead who was there to work rather than judge.
Just another ivory tower white savior liberal elitist thinking she knows what is best for POC better than POC themselves.
This amazing Black journalist is the smartest guy in the room.
His standpoint allows him to call those issues he mentioned for what they are. Really good discussion overall for such an early time since the election.
So true. By far the smartest in the room. In fact, Black commentators are making many of the most insightful take downs of the Democrat's belief in their Rainbow Privilege entitlement. As in Beyonce should sew up the Black vote, with Harris faking enough "y'alls" at the rallies.
well he thinks so anyway.
@KrissyG-f5r It's obvious he talks to people outside of his bubble
He's a journalist, not a black journalist
The race meant a lot to women. So why didn’t you put up a woman who could get a coherent sentence out without talking about her yellow school bus. You news media people just don’t get it. She was a bum candidate. She’s never done anything in her life. She’s been given every position she’s ever had.
I have listened to every pod Astead has been in, for years now. He is one of very few who really tries to understand everyone he interacts with. With people like him in the democrat party, we wouldnt be where we unfortunatley are right now. Thank you also for a great podcast, love the daily. Henrik from Sweden.
Perhaps because the Democratic mindset assumes that Blacks would be onside, some Black commentators feel an obligation to be more insightful in their analysis - more skeptical of the Dem narratives.
The Democratic party needs to take a good hard look inward and they need to change. They need to move towards populism because they simply aren't connecting with average Americans on a fundamental level, and blaming it on Biden, sexism, racism, or anything else will be a huge mistake. Americans have shown they aren't happy with the system and they want the system to change.
I agree, we need to hone in on our meassage regarding sex changes for small children, I think we needed to address the nuances of Gender Care for Minors, I think it freaked a lot of parents out when Shcool teachers are openly sexulizing kids, maybe America wasn't ready for that, just saying....
Why do we have to keep looking at ourselves when they never do? Are we supposed to lie like the other side and sellout our values in order to win?
What makes you think there will be another presidential election???
Wrong. If it wasn’t for the electoral college, he would not have won.
Change from what? From talking about policies based on reality and data rather than appealing to emotions just to get elected?
Instead, Dems should let Trump whatever it does, and let the American suffer the consequences not their ignorance and stupidity for trying to live in a delusional world such thinking that the economy is in bad shape. (Exit polls said 67% voters thought the economy was no good or really bad)
If the people don't experience the results of their decisions, they will not change.
Let the people see the reality.
I hope GOP now repeals Obamacare. Let's see all these non college working class people many of whom depend on Medicaid or subsidized ACA plans and predicting condition lose their insurance. If I were a Dem rep or senator I would vote for repeal.
I hope the Senate will get rid of filibuster rubbing on the face of Munchin and Sinema and pass a national abortion ban (and Trump will sign it after pressure from Christians) and let's see the results for the people who voted for abortion rights in Florida (to 57%) and also voted for Scott (57%)and Trump (56%) see the stick up your behind for their stupidity.
Until you let this run its course for the people suffer the consequences of their votes, everything you do as Dems to block the suffering will be temporary.
Let the people see the consequences. Let them lose their healthcare, unions and bargaining power, let them lose their rights.
No primary, party of war, and not acknowledging chronic disease are my top 3 as to why democrats are totally out of touch. Can't run on Donald Trump bad with no common sense clear plan to make anything better what so ever. I don't expect politicians to fix anything in my life but at least run on some kind of plan to make average Americans life better in any way. Donald Trump bad doesn't help anyone.
Trump the only president gave x10 support for black University they don't need to go back in the white house every year that is big deal for black community, gasoline average $2 or less a gallon in his time.
Just watch - they’ll continue to refer to him as a ‘convicted felon’ even after his convictions are overturned in appeals, if that happens.
Who knew that screaming insults at people doesn't convince them of your righteousness.
Apparently it worked for Trump.
@@iceescape In California, I hear daily insults from ONE group. And it's not the folks who won last night.
@@iceescapedid he call you nazis?
@@iceescape An entertainer garnering support acting like a roast comedian and speaking truth isn't the same as legacy media alienating half of America with obvious lies. Calling both examples "insults" is itself insulting.
Calling out bigoted actions will never be popular with bigots, no.
They really dont get it. Except for the black guy.
They should listen to Black men. These folks have a issue and need to learn to listen.
@@Renaisance-jb5jx Just because a person is a black man or daughter of immigrants is not a reason to listen. The reason to listen is because the individual has a good idea.
The juice? Ofc not.
The projection of your totalitarianism is strong. You represent a party that didn't give your voters a choice. Do you not see the screaming cognitive dissonance of your contempt for democracy that is underscored with your vicious, collectivist, totalitarian Manichean thirst for power that will use the lethal force of govt. to do what ever it takes to crush dissent.
The dems should hire Astead. I love his show. He’s always impartial, curious and insightful. He’s brilliant.
if Trump isn't a strong candidate, how does he routinely outperform down-ballot Republican candidates in battleground states?
Because people are sick and tired of elites on both parties.
Trump is essentially a human grenade, and if he can make these media and academic snobs squirm people will take it.
One possibility is that Kamala was such a heinous candidate that hid from scrutiny and could only parrot a handful of talking points (whether appropriate or not) goes a long way to explaining that performance. She never had any more substance than her hyena persona.
Maybe the Democratic message isn't what people want, you know it's probably that simple. Sometimes people ignore the obviously logical reason for something.
Their message was 100% embarassing
this victory was a big middle finger to the Dems for the last several years of condescending rhetoric. We've been so sick of you guys for so long and finally had the chance to show you how we feel.
Women don't just vote because a candidate is a woman. Pliz increase your imagination as the black dude says.
Agree.. and we don't vote based on "people that look like me" either. I care about values and policy, not skin color.
They leave out the question, why would women vote for a woman to lead a country for any reason?
Latinos for Trump! The GOAT!!!🇺🇸
NYT is irrelevant
Still suffering from Trump derange syndrome and not self reflecting on why they were obliterated
This was a really good pod tbh. All of the points are valid and the critiques of the democrats are legit. Blaming the voters is a cope, this was a resounding DNC failure.
The voters knowingly voted for a felon who tried to overturn the last election because his ego couldn't handle being a loser. The voters have responsibility for their choice.
Nah, would agree but the maga candidate can't be sane washed
media created trump and media created trump voters. maybe media should take their thumb off the scale.
Republicans and media need the blame
This is BS
You can't have a democracy with only one side is actually trying to
A democracy doesn’t function if you infantilize voters. In 2016 you could chalk it up to it being an honest mistake, in 2024 no voter should need to be told why it’s a mistake to elect this man. At some point Americans need to look in the mirror and take accountability for their own beliefs and stop blaming others.
In a sea of completely out of touch political commentary, Astead came thru like the freshest breath of air, man. So on point and I couldn't agree more with his analysis.
I was so appreciative of Astead calling out the hard truth that I had to come comment. Clearly, many others felt the same way! Thank you, Astead!
Kamala's unlikeability score is off the charts
Astead's critiques are fresh and clear, ones I haven't heard yet and make sense he sees through the matrix. He is showing accountability and a real insight into the democratic party that needs to be discussed further
On the plus side i love that you guys are filming these podcasts now.
soon ppl will visit movie theatres to watch two ppl talk for hours on end
Usually podcast settings look different from what I imagined but this is pretty much spot on. The host’s face doesn’t really match the voice I had in my head though lol
Astead's analysis is correct. This is a simple story. The economy is broken in America for everyone but the top. People are existentially hurting. That's why this happened.
But anyone with a brain knows trump will make things worse for the poor and better for the ultra rich
And again, if you think the "economy is broken" because of the Democrats, I really don't think you should be voting. Congrats on learning nothing in four plus decades.
Every single one of these people sitting at this round table are the problem in this country
It is called an echo chamber.
Astead said what needed to be said. Period.
I had been hearing the podcast for maybe 5 years and is the first time I see Michael Barbaro and he definitely looks like a Michael Barbaro
People didn't like where the country was headed, but when Kamala was asked if there was anything she would have changed over the past 4 years, she said "Nothing". If she could have even given a few small things, like the Afghanistan pullout, closing the border earlier, anything about the Israel and Gaza mess etc. it would have made her seem like she was going to actually do something. She basically said she was going to continue exactly how President Biden is going right now.
It all drills down to two things…1. The dems have veered wayyy too far out of the American mainstream and need to tack back to the middle, and 2) They need to nominate a candidate with enough mental acuity to articulate policy issues.
They did neither this time around. Americans didn’t like the product or the one pushing it.
Considering that 17 million less voters showed up, and even the winner got 2 million less votes than previously, "apathy" is what won this election.
Eh, unusually high turnout in 2020 with lots of people cooped up at home bathing in politics thanks to COVID. If there was apathy, it was only on one side.
Yes… but who didn’t show up? That’s the first step in the post mortem
It's called being unable to cook the numbers this time.
Maybe for one side. Definitely not the other.
@@FrankWest-py2se give it a rest dude. My god.
Most of the panel downplay the black panelist's views, which actually happen to be the most sensible ones. Dems' crisis in a nutshell.
Hey folks, wise up. Shame and guilt and fear don't work in manipulating the people anymore. Division is out.
The thing the legacy media has to understand to stay relevant is that to the majority of American people agenda will never be greater than truth.
The idea that they could repeat the same playbook from 2016, which failed but with a worse economy is insane.
The economy is great though. My wealth has skyrocketed in the past 4 years. People need to learn how to save and invest instead of blaming the president for their problems.
@i_like_beer-o2f not great for budgeting or non-homeowners
@@brittney3156Dude is 3 days old, he's a bot.
With worse economy? Do Americans understand numbers? It's hard to believe that you do. Your inflation is way down compared to anywhere else in the world. Thank Biden for that. And no, inflation wasn't Biden's fault. It was a global phenomenon and still is. Stock market is through the roof and you have more people working than ever. Most countries across the pond would switch with you in a heartbeat. But don't worry: here comes the Tariff Man with his tax breaks to burn it all down in four years again.
After four decades of trickle down and driving the economy over the cliff, if your vote for the GOP is based on economy, I don't think you are smart enough to vote. JFC America, be better. Or at least decent or even a little bit informed. Loud and stupid is not a good look.
@@brittney3156 You think the GOP will make life easier for the middle class? When has that happened? Not during the color tv era.