Thank you for being honest and having some integrity. Literally no one else talked about the shifters not being magnetic and the cheap thumb encoders. Everybody is praising the wheel. You also seem to be one of the few, who doesn't have an affiliate link, which explains a lot.
Thank you, we have an affiliate link and we also had sponsored articles and videos (they are then clearly labeled) - but anything that is a review won't be paid and we will always share our honest and balanced impressions. -Michel
It's a flagship "Hey, look at what we can do" wheel and wont be their top seller. People who buy it will buy it because it is a one to one and they LOVE Lambos. I think it's a beautiful wheel and while its a great looking replica of a real wheel... The lack of backlighting in todays market is a no for me. I race a lot at night and in the dark. Back lighting is essential
No magnetic shifters and no clutch paddles for 1300€? Saying it's a replica is one kind to justify it's lack of features but in a very competitive segment for high end wheels I don't think many would go for this if they are not ones who adore Lamborghini or simply want to stay in the Moza ecosystem without any 3rd party wheels.
Few issues with this replica in my opinion: It is rather Unpractical on most cars It is of a relatively unknown and very rare car so people don’t buy it because they see it Sundays on the race track You cannot find the car in any major sims unlike the McLaren GT3 and GT4, the BMW GT3 and GT4 and even the Bentley GT3 that is represented in ACC Replicas are always a balance between practicality and realism but it is very beneficial for that to pick a car that is represented in both the sim and real world a lot so people actually have a relationship to the history of the wheel. If your favourite driver is Rossi for example you’re more likely to buy the fanatec BMW GT3 wheel whereas if it’s James Baldwin you might buy one of the many McLaren wheel replicas. Anyways TLDR it isn’t the product itself it is the car that they chose to replicate from that’s the issue.
I don't mind spending that type of money on a high end wheel. But I've yet to buy any of these high end replica or FIA Homologated wheels. I'm much more interested in wheels like GSI Hyper P1 with amazing functionality for that kind of price.
I still prefer wheels without screen as I see it useless. I have GSI X29 as it is very universal wheel in reasonable price, using dash screen where needed.
I can’t bring myself to buy a wheel with a screen when I race 100% in VR. Went with the GS over the FRS and respected Moza for providing both options. But good on them for continuing to offer a huge range and so much choice for their eco-system
@@Gizfreek Yeah and then you have a dash in front of the screen, where usually wouldn't be a dash. Is it so difficult to wrap your head around the fact that not everybody likes that?
Different marketed target audience, different needs and wants. There should be a shift in feature priorities when making a sim wheel, even if it may differ in terms of aesthetics from what the wheel is based on.
Lovely LOOKING wheel - gorgeous, in fact. Let down by all the criticisms you made, but I think Moza will release a more sim-friendly version, ultimately. This will sell like hotcakes to those who want a true replica. The wheel which really grabs my attention is the new Fanatec Porsche VGT. Gorgeous-looking, and with the new ownership they will finally have sorted the major hurdles to Fanatec ownership: after-sales and supply.
People find anything to complain about. If there was a white lint ball on the outer packaging, there would be some complaint that it isn't original because the original product is black, lol.
Looks kinda neat but not a layout I would be interested in using, not to mention that AFAIK you need to buy a special hub to run Moza wheels on 3rd party wheelbases and then I'd much rather have something that works natively with my system.
After getting the FSR and their poor support for their underwhelming dashes, never again, MOZA. They have basically ignored their customers who invested into the FSR wheel. They also made way too many concessions on this wheel and if the screen still doesn’t work with simHUB by now, it’s not worth the price.
Naw I think all brands need high end wheels like this. Happy to see it but moza needs to upgrade some components if they are going to charge 1300. Like the damn shifters are just not good to me. Then you have people like that gt7 player, whats his name. He has that green logo for his channel and talks about fanatec all the time, covers all of that stuff. Yeah him, he didn't talk about one thing not being good on it. To me, it's horrible that he isn't doing so. There are a good bit of comprimises on this wheel for the price. Like in a pretty bad way.
I appreciate ur comments, but could I ask for some proofreading before posting? I had difficulty understanding what u wanted to say. Good comment, though.
@supercededman yeah, im on the phone. Makes it kind of rough. My fat thumbs hate my phone and I hate having to switch keyboards on the phone. Sry about the typos and punctuation.
If there’s any way to get this working on a Fanatec wheelbase with a QR2, and the screen/telemetry/touch works, then I’m sold. I’ve always loved Squadra Corse, and I’ll do anything to get this working cross platform
I feel that Moza is going down the wrong route. Surely everyone blasts out some VERY expensive wheels these days but many of them are more feature-rich and that said, this is not the premium wheel that Moza or their customers need. Certainly this is a replica and it's very similar to the real deal, but no LED-lit buttons, no joysticks, no magnetic shifters, no simhub integration, [...] This will really only be attractive to very few Lamborghini fans. I also really wonder why Moza didn't really exhibit anything on the Expo and it feels a bit as if competitors are slighty gaining an edge over Moza.
your right but fanatec bentley and bmw and surely the porsche are way more expensive especially the porsche could be triple the price BUT i also won’t consider buying the wheel
@@ParrotTheBird well I can't justify the price for this wheel as a sim wheel due to its other flaws. It lacks buttons, encoders, funky switches, double-clutch. And it's too heavy. So I think it's useless as a simracing wheel. Besides, making a replica of the wheel of the car that you can't actually drive in any sim - well it clearly is just a marketing move. The car isn't even a racing car but a track-day car for a bunch of wealthy dudes.
This wheel is targeted at someone like me. I’m into full replica wheels, I find them to be a good connection to reality. I think to the people who are complaining about the wheel and how it doesn’t accommodate for your simracing needs, I think that your better off just buying a wheel that has all the funky switches and stickers labeled for simracing. There’s nothing wrong with these types of wheels and no need to complain about them. Yes there built for a targeted audience, so they are going to not have all the “required” simracing needs
Exactly. I'm a basic user (Logitech G Pro with standard wheel, but LOVING it), but absolutely understand the attraction of these replica wheels. Won't be there biggest seller, but wheels like this are halo wheels, and I think every major manufacturer will consider going down this route. Bring it on!
Yep, for VR users button tactility and placement are the main considerations. When I first got my VR I had just transitioned from a DD Pro. Cheap-LOOKING wheel, but the dedicated buttons were a godsend. I now have a Logitech G Pro. Better wheel, IMO, but for VR the button placement on the DD Pro is superior.
Yup...I am going to give this a strong pass. Beautiful wheel, but for that kind of money...just to have a Lamborghini badge on there. Your concerns is well noted.
As a sim racer you should aspire to be close to reality as possible not Turing what is a real product to what sim racing is. It's almost like you are saying real steering wheels should aspire to be more like simracing
I get your point, but the application is just different. On a pc or console you have a different demand about what buttons and switches have to do than in a real car. Of course you can also run a wheel without any buttons to enjoy pure driving in your simulator. So it is either purism or something that adds comfort and features. -Michel
@@DaTruthHeals it is a big mistake haptic rig, maybe some litle vibration on the seat, more than that in 1 week your back gona hurt, and eventually havr to stop playing with motion, and the regret hit them when you see it and think all the money spent for nothing
They lock these expensive wheels in their mediocre ecosystem and don't even give the end user the option to use it with Lovely Dashboard and simhub. Complete insanity!
Yet still, the MOZA brand feels cheap Chinese, although they are trying their best. Edit: their stuff nowadays is good, but their perception of their brand is still lacking by many!
Guys! Relax! I do own moza and I like it a lot! Just saying that their branding and image is still ‘the Chinese bloke in simracing’. Hopefully thuis Wheel changes the perception of many tho!
Nice wheel but seriously, these wheels are getting too expensive. Bring back the $200 McLaren wheel or the $300 bmw wheel .... Give us something tangible lol. Nice review.
@@bojansimic4251Chinese direct products are traditionally cheaper because of the cheaper cost of labor and mass manufacturing methods. Also usually less to no middle men to inflate pricing.
Thank you for being honest and having some integrity. Literally no one else talked about the shifters not being magnetic and the cheap thumb encoders. Everybody is praising the wheel. You also seem to be one of the few, who doesn't have an affiliate link, which explains a lot.
Thank you, we have an affiliate link and we also had sponsored articles and videos (they are then clearly labeled) - but anything that is a review won't be paid and we will always share our honest and balanced impressions. -Michel
THIS, x 100%
It's a flagship "Hey, look at what we can do" wheel and wont be their top seller. People who buy it will buy it because it is a one to one and they LOVE Lambos. I think it's a beautiful wheel and while its a great looking replica of a real wheel... The lack of backlighting in todays market is a no for me. I race a lot at night and in the dark. Back lighting is essential
just like the simlab mercedes f1 wheel or even fanatec bmw
Thanks for the review mate! 🙌
Cool to see you here, awesome videos! -Michel
The real question is:
On setting 12, how bloody fast do the wipers go?
No magnetic shifters and no clutch paddles for 1300€? Saying it's a replica is one kind to justify it's lack of features but in a very competitive segment for high end wheels I don't think many would go for this if they are not ones who adore Lamborghini or simply want to stay in the Moza ecosystem without any 3rd party wheels.
Yeah complete insanity. No clue what moza is smoking.
No funky switches either is a mistake
This wheel is clearly designed for specific people, I am not one of those people however and will take a pass.
Few issues with this replica in my opinion:
It is rather Unpractical on most cars
It is of a relatively unknown and very rare car so people don’t buy it because they see it Sundays on the race track
You cannot find the car in any major sims unlike the McLaren GT3 and GT4, the BMW GT3 and GT4 and even the Bentley GT3 that is represented in ACC
Replicas are always a balance between practicality and realism but it is very beneficial for that to pick a car that is represented in both the sim and real world a lot so people actually have a relationship to the history of the wheel. If your favourite driver is Rossi for example you’re more likely to buy the fanatec BMW GT3 wheel whereas if it’s James Baldwin you might buy one of the many McLaren wheel replicas. Anyways TLDR it isn’t the product itself it is the car that they chose to replicate from that’s the issue.
Perhaps they know something we don t know about assetto corsa evo . And this car is a flagship of the game ? Or your are totally right. How knows
@@yannwymann8796 maybe in that case the announcement would be timed a bit oddly though
I don't mind spending that type of money on a high end wheel. But I've yet to buy any of these high end replica or FIA Homologated wheels. I'm much more interested in wheels like GSI Hyper P1 with amazing functionality for that kind of price.
I think it is the same with the Mercedes F1 Wheel - it is a niche product but why THIS wheel and not a Lamborghini GT3 wheel?
because the lambo wheel is the same as the audi gt3 wheel. Also, so they could charge a bit more, considering this is their first $1,000 pus wheel.
@@arg_9584 yeah that makes sense
Agreed. Authenticity over practicality. Cool wheel, but not a great value.
I think I will be sticking to my original plan, R12 w/ RS V2. Planning on ordering that after the new year.
It could be interesting to do a shootout between all wheels between 1500 and 2000€ when this and the bentley wheels will be out in the wild
I still prefer wheels without screen as I see it useless. I have GSI X29 as it is very universal wheel in reasonable price, using dash screen where needed.
Aha,...and what if you drive a car that has no dash, like for example F1 or LMP cars?
@@mementomori4972 I for one have a fixed dashboard I can use with every wheel I own which I also prefer as it sits above the wheel and not inside it
I can’t bring myself to buy a wheel with a screen when I race 100% in VR. Went with the GS over the FRS and respected Moza for providing both options. But good on them for continuing to offer a huge range and so much choice for their eco-system
@@Gizfreek Yeah and then you have a dash in front of the screen, where usually wouldn't be a dash. Is it so difficult to wrap your head around the fact that not everybody likes that?
@@Gizfreek I set fixed steering wheel in LMU :)
Different marketed target audience, different needs and wants. There should be a shift in feature priorities when making a sim wheel, even if it may differ in terms of aesthetics from what the wheel is based on.
1400€ is what I spent for my whole setup PC included
Lovely LOOKING wheel - gorgeous, in fact. Let down by all the criticisms you made, but I think Moza will release a more sim-friendly version, ultimately. This will sell like hotcakes to those who want a true replica.
The wheel which really grabs my attention is the new Fanatec Porsche VGT. Gorgeous-looking, and with the new ownership they will finally have sorted the major hurdles to Fanatec ownership: after-sales and supply.
People find anything to complain about. If there was a white lint ball on the outer packaging, there would be some complaint that it isn't original because the original product is black, lol.
Complaining about people having an opinion. Cute.
@@Lessenjr Nah, it's obviously a tongue-in-cheek OBSERVATION. An accurate one at that, ha ha.
Looks kinda neat but not a layout I would be interested in using, not to mention that AFAIK you need to buy a special hub to run Moza wheels on 3rd party wheelbases and then I'd much rather have something that works natively with my system.
Well, at least they have a hub and make it possible to use their wheels on other bases. Not everybody does that.
After getting the FSR and their poor support for their underwhelming dashes, never again, MOZA. They have basically ignored their customers who invested into the FSR wheel.
They also made way too many concessions on this wheel and if the screen still doesn’t work with simHUB by now, it’s not worth the price.
Naw I think all brands need high end wheels like this. Happy to see it but moza needs to upgrade some components if they are going to charge 1300. Like the damn shifters are just not good to me.
Then you have people like that gt7 player, whats his name. He has that green logo for his channel and talks about fanatec all the time, covers all of that stuff. Yeah him, he didn't talk about one thing not being good on it. To me, it's horrible that he isn't doing so. There are a good bit of comprimises on this wheel for the price. Like in a pretty bad way.
I appreciate ur comments, but could I ask for some proofreading before posting? I had difficulty understanding what u wanted to say. Good comment, though.
@supercededman yeah, im on the phone. Makes it kind of rough. My fat thumbs hate my phone and I hate having to switch keyboards on the phone.
Sry about the typos and punctuation.
@@supercededman I updated my comment. Hopefully it's a bit better lol.
My bad. I should have considered that possibility! All good. As I said, great comment
@@reviewforthetube6485 Just as a matter of interest, the YTuber you referred to: Kireth? I'm actually watching his review now.
The wheel looks incredible
That is a lot of money, I'd expect some more features for this price range, regardless of how close it is to the real thing.
If there’s any way to get this working on a Fanatec wheelbase with a QR2, and the screen/telemetry/touch works, then I’m sold.
I’ve always loved Squadra Corse, and I’ll do anything to get this working cross platform
Just change the QR and get the moza hub.
That works! Moza Universal Hub 👍🏻 -Michel
@@OverTake_gg I'm guessing it will also work with the new Logitech universal hub.
Not sure if this wheel make sense as addition to my Grid 911 RSR Wheel but it look very nice
Where there is a market, a customer base for more premium products emerge
Moza should have made a GT3 rep. Can’t see many people buying and using this.
🤔 only meant for eye candy, not for Sim Racing?
WHY is it so deep vs the other wheels, that makes it a pain to get your seating position right.
I feel that Moza is going down the wrong route. Surely everyone blasts out some VERY expensive wheels these days but many of them are more feature-rich and that said, this is not the premium wheel that Moza or their customers need. Certainly this is a replica and it's very similar to the real deal, but no LED-lit buttons, no joysticks, no magnetic shifters, no simhub integration, [...] This will really only be attractive to very few Lamborghini fans. I also really wonder why Moza didn't really exhibit anything on the Expo and it feels a bit as if competitors are slighty gaining an edge over Moza.
Its over $1400 on their website FYI
Where are you located? Maybe tax is included. It's 1,299.00 $ when I look it up. -Michel
4:16 what sim is this?
Its Forza Motorsport, the only "sim" that has this car. -Michel
1300 bucks... No thank you. Collector's wheel.
your right but fanatec bentley and bmw and surely the porsche are way more expensive especially the porsche could be triple the price BUT i also won’t consider buying the wheel
I think they said the Porsche was a CSL version so really curious about the price
The Porsche Vision GT wheel will be a CSL Elite range wheel. So you can expect good value.
@@ParrotTheBird well I can't justify the price for this wheel as a sim wheel due to its other flaws. It lacks buttons, encoders, funky switches, double-clutch. And it's too heavy. So I think it's useless as a simracing wheel. Besides, making a replica of the wheel of the car that you can't actually drive in any sim - well it clearly is just a marketing move. The car isn't even a racing car but a track-day car for a bunch of wealthy dudes.
@@hoot9612 yep your absolutely right
This wheel is targeted at someone like me. I’m into full replica wheels, I find them to be a good connection to reality. I think to the people who are complaining about the wheel and how it doesn’t accommodate for your simracing needs, I think that your better off just buying a wheel that has all the funky switches and stickers labeled for simracing. There’s nothing wrong with these types of wheels and no need to complain about them. Yes there built for a targeted audience, so they are going to not have all the “required” simracing needs
Exactly. I'm a basic user (Logitech G Pro with standard wheel, but LOVING it), but absolutely understand the attraction of these replica wheels. Won't be there biggest seller, but wheels like this are halo wheels, and I think every major manufacturer will consider going down this route. Bring it on!
MOZA Who? 🤣🤣🤣
Too expensive. Moza needs to go back to ks line. Great wheels for a great price.
i want a wheel for VR, something nicer than the KS wheel and with easy to get too buttons and better grips
@@gaminginstilllife9429 it's called GT Neo. Simagic GT Neo
The GT Neo is a nice step up and the same price as the KS
Yep, for VR users button tactility and placement are the main considerations. When I first got my VR I had just transitioned from a DD Pro. Cheap-LOOKING wheel, but the dedicated buttons were a godsend. I now have a Logitech G Pro. Better wheel, IMO, but for VR the button placement on the DD Pro is superior.
Yup...I am going to give this a strong pass. Beautiful wheel, but for that kind of money...just to have a Lamborghini badge on there. Your concerns is well noted.
My G27 kicks this things a$$
As a sim racer you should aspire to be close to reality as possible not Turing what is a real product to what sim racing is. It's almost like you are saying real steering wheels should aspire to be more like simracing
I get your point, but the application is just different. On a pc or console you have a different demand about what buttons and switches have to do than in a real car. Of course you can also run a wheel without any buttons to enjoy pure driving in your simulator. So it is either purism or something that adds comfort and features. -Michel
in 2024, having a wheel without one stick at least is a crime... whoever buys this will regret it.
I don't see any funky switches. That's a miss
It can’t miss any features because it’s a replica. If it’s not on the real thing it won’t be on the replica that’s the whole point
True, but you saw that some flaws were also hiding on other parts and in the software.
And just to make that clear, they market the wheel as a sim racing enhanced replica. So you could expect some more features:) -Michel
No clutch, no thanks. Great review though, keep up the good work.
Its a replica, that's why it doesn't have clutches
I didnt like moza because it feels a copy cat of fanatec, but iam changing my opinion, it is ps5 ready?
I'm on moza right now but will be going with fanatec or simagic for my motion/haptic rig. Moza is great for casual racing but I want more immersion.
@@DaTruthHeals it is a big mistake haptic rig, maybe some litle vibration on the seat, more than that in 1 week your back gona hurt, and eventually havr to stop playing with motion, and the regret hit them when you see it and think all the money spent for nothing
They lock these expensive wheels in their mediocre ecosystem and don't even give the end user the option to use it with Lovely Dashboard and simhub. Complete insanity!
Its a game guys, you certainly don't need that. Lol do we want it.. maybe, but no, will never buy it 😅
Yet still, the MOZA brand feels cheap Chinese, although they are trying their best.
Edit: their stuff nowadays is good, but their perception of their brand is still lacking by many!
@@debozebever nothing about this wheel (or most any moza product these days) says cheap Chinese. You just associate anything Chinese
With cheapness
Do you own any Moza products?
Guys! Relax! I do own moza and I like it a lot! Just saying that their branding and image is still ‘the Chinese bloke in simracing’.
Hopefully thuis Wheel changes the perception of many tho!
😂😂
Nice wheel but seriously, these wheels are getting too expensive. Bring back the $200 McLaren wheel or the $300 bmw wheel .... Give us something tangible lol. Nice review.
There are more than enough options in this price rage out there,...even from Moza, so what exactly are you complaining about?
@@mementomori4972 what do you care?
@@BA-rh5hy Probably for the same reason you care.
For a chinese wheel, it is way too expensive...
What is this supposed to mean? 😂
@@bojansimic4251Chinese direct products are traditionally cheaper because of the cheaper cost of labor and mass manufacturing methods. Also usually less to no middle men to inflate pricing.
It means what I said.🙄
@@bojansimic4251 it means that he thinks the Chinese can't make premium products I guess