Ducati DVT Cam Belt Replacement
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2020
- A behind-the-scenes look at at what's involved when changing cam belts on a DVT Ducati.
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Jim bro, your divergent waffling is the greatest thing about the channel, I've learned more from listening to you than watching a thousand videos elsewhere.
I just finished rebuilding my 1262 dvt and your video helped ease my concerns over the refitting of the belts. Once you do it you realize it’s actually very simple. I’ve never rebuilt or changed belts on an engine in my whole life. Keep up the great content.
Perfect "timing"; there's a lot of discussion about this topic right now on one of the Multistrada forums. I'd worked out most of this from the shop manual and other discussions but nothing beats a detailed video like this. Many thanks.
I can relate to your self-deprecating humor. It's one of the funniest parts of your content. I also waffle around ideas in my head and sometimes out loud. It's great for your audience to hear the thought process in real time. I just find it funny when you yell at yourself. I keep having flash backs to Star Trek, "Damnit Jim! She ain't got the power!""
I know hard it is to make videos. I love yours. Less edits, and I, for one, love your waffling. So much invaluable information there, don't underestimate yourself mate. keep doing what you're doing, ignore the haters.
Great video buddy. I'm an experienced auto mechanic and a new Ducati owner. You did a great job showing me what's inside this fascinating magical box. I'm looking forward to cracking it open.
yes - we ARE all friends. And yes … it's ok to be a bell-end occasionally :) Although, in fairness, I think you're the only one rating yourself as a bell-end :) Awesome content, man. You have a great way of explaining things. Perfect pace. Down-to-earth. Nice and clear demonstration. Even for a non-mechanic bloke like me. Keep up the good work, Sir - and whatever you do … don't bloody stop! :)
Thanks dude, kind words :)
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV not at all, mate - all the kindness is from you: there's a metric shit tonne of thought and effort goes into making these videos. It's great that guys like you are willing to put in the hard yards to find a way to bend the time-space continuum and somehow fit it in amongst day job, kids, her indoors, that little thing called sleep, etc.,... 😁👍🏼 A few words of appreciation fall well short of the mark, in fairness!
Thank you. I purchased a bike over due by a few years to change the belts. I never believed in magic but I do like watching a few different videos and read the service manual when tackling a new type of project. This is the first source I have checked. I will check a few more plus use the manual, hoping to see someone else’s take on getting around the top cover situation. That said I feel fairly confident the video was very well done and most likely all anyone would need. Thank you again.
Great video! I'm just before the desmo service on mine 2015 and this video is clearly shows all things about the timing staff! Thanks for uploading!👌
Reminded me that Renault say you need the tuning tool to do the cam belt on a trafic, I never had one and dad taught me many years ago if you can just twist it one quarter of a turn it's spot on!, the van did 20 thousand miles after that with no problems before I sold it. Great video.
Great honest video thanks Jim,spoke to Ducati Manchester about the belt change on my 2017 XDiavel which is due in 7000 miles,their want £1500 to do it !…they mentioned it needs this factory tool and that special tool or the sky will fall down.
Thought at the time it was just smoke and mirrors bollocks,i’ll be doing it myself.
There are always work arounds. I did the Oxford MC Engineers course when I bought my Pantah and they taught us how to do it all without factory tools.
This here is the most understandable and easy to follow video on a multi belt change I've seen. Thanks for the content.
Mate love this channel, love the waffle, I think most of your audience would be engine nerd types. Enthusiasts maybe. Also loved the "the magic will fall out" line. So true.
THANK YOU! Brilliant pro tech tips and honestly presented. Great video indeed and I owe you a few pints for allowing for a chance to leave the air box on while removing the vertical belt top cover for my upcoming home Desmo Service.
Cheers for that!
I know how you feel. The beginning is hilarious 😆 keep up the good work
Fantastic video. Thanks. You show the keypoints instead of just mentioning them. Swapping belts on my '15 MTS next week.. Swapped belts on my '06 MTS many years ago but needed a refresher on this new engine.
Even after changing so many belts I still get that churning in my stomach feeling just as I hit the start button lol
I would of mentioned for those that maybe would forget, To loctite the post back in although if you needed telling you shouldn't be changing belts to begin with !
Nice clean Duc your working on Jim..
Fantastic video. My 1200s dvt 2017 is due back from Ducati Leeds next wednesday. Having had it's 16000 mile desmo service. After 50 yrs of working on bikes & cars i am peed off watching your video. I was told that no way you cannot do this service without all the main dealer gear. Yes £907 out of pocket. Could have done easily. You live & learn. Oh & they wanted £402 to fit new chain & sprockets. Told them where to go on that one. Thanks for sharing the vid.
Regards.
Steve.
Great work mate, a tone of information. Please make another one for valve adjustment for the same engine. Thanks again.
I would love to see a video for timing belt and change and the valve check on a monster 797. This video is very well put together and very helpful. Thank you!
Very well done. Great information very well detailed, in the right pace, thank you
Great video. When doing diesel cars it’s routine to turn the engine over by hand and recheck everything aligns correctly again before starting the motor. Personally, I would do this if changing the belts on the Duke and make sure there is no resistance felt if valves were hitting pistons etc and that everything realigns correctly before committing to use the starter .
Great video... I've got that same Ram mount in the EXACT same position on my Multi... so I had to look closely to make sure that wasn't my bike. :-)
I love your videos Jim you explain great we know what you mean about waffling on lol but it just make me smile your just a normal guy like us all keep the videos coming jim 👌😁😁
KW=Kurbelwellenwinkel/Crank angle .Great video love the channel. 😁
Great stuff.... I was wondering don't you need to change the vertical belt first? Doesn't the horizontal belt need to be removed in order to remove the vertical belt?
Been waiting for new video from you for ages.
Stephen McQueen me to mate 👌👌
increíblemente agradecido! muchas gracias por tu trabajo :)
Another great video...don't have a ducati but just love being educated...I know this is quite an old video but still great content....thanks 👍
Thanks Mate 👍
Hooray! He's back👍👌
You'll be able to stand in for Kevin in Corination Street soon Jim. ;) Another great vid.
The one piece of info you should have shown is which run of belt you pluck on the vertical cylinder. Also the app that I have used on my phone to check the belts on my 2V machine is from Gates who make the belts called Gates Carbon Drive. Don’t be put off by it being described in the App Store as a bicycle belt tension meter because it does motorcycles as well and you have to choose when you use it. The other thing I would say is the important point is getting the cam pulleys and the “crank” pulley marks lined up with the marks on the engine casing and marking the old belts to ensure that you have the right number of teeth in each of the three runs on the belt i.e. “crank” to cam, cam to cam and cam back down to the “crank”
Well done my friend. Great video. 🏍.
Brilliant video Jim, many thanks for sharing. I will be buying the belts and doing this job myself. Do you use OEM or exactfit belts?
Brilliant video. Thankyou sir 🙏🏻
Thanks so much . Can I just put the belts in the same place with the cams and count the teeth? Then for the tension do the TDC of each? Then torque all good? Thanks so much again
Hi fabulous detailed vid, I'm going to do mine this spring...I notice in the workshop manual that Ducati want us to remove the head to make sure the "variator flats" are horizontal by securing with a special tool ,you obviously did this without do I take it that it's just Ducati scare tactics, thanks
Yes, as I explained in the video Ducati have to account for the weakest link in their repair procedure. (The human) 🤣
Great interesting video as always 👍
Hi, interesting video. Is it the same proceedure with the 1260 DVT engine or are the locking and turning tools different. Thanks.
Lovin' this. And yea, making videos is tough.
You have ducati coloured safety specs. Awesome
Great vid mate, interesting & I don't even own a Ducati
Hey friend thanks for the long awaited video for the DVT Ducatisti! I've done 3 belts changes on my prior Ducati (ST4S). I'm coming up on my first belt service on my 2015 MTS. This video clarifies much on the topic. I do have a couple questions regarding the exhaust cam on the vertical cylinder. First is what is the diameter of the carbon rod that you're using? I want have some candidates ready before I tear the bike down. Second, I'm doing a belt change only this time. In the case of a valve adjustment, wondering what you use to rotate/set the exhaust cam back into position prior to putting the belt back on.
Hi, Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you found it helpful. You can easily rotate the rear ex cam with your fingers in the same way you can with other Dukes. I think the rod is somewhere around 9mm od. When I next get one in I think I'll spend a bit of time making a proper holder on the 3D printer :)
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Perfect video content! Congrats! What is the cost of the diagnostic tools-setup you are using?
Muito bom!
Qual é o ano da sua multistrada?
eu tenho uma 2017 e queria saber se o valor em hertz para ela é de 90 ou 110, na medição da tensão das correias.
Love the video’s! Can someone explain why the battery needs to be disconnected? 😅
this guy actually made it MORE confusing and I've already done a few DVT engines !!....my brain was melting listening to him waffle on !
🤣🤣 You're welcome! I look forward to watching your video.
Thanks for the help today it saved me from turning to drink :)
Haha, you are very welcome..
You earned that "like and subscribe". Supervideo buddy!
Cam angel spelling might be wrong but I think the German for cam shaft is knockenweller thus the KW I only sort of know this from the days of the old Norton double knocker
that intro :D another cracking video
So what you're saying about the pulley driving the timing belt is, it's not turning at a 1:1 ratio with the crankshaft. There must be a gear reduction from the crankshaft to this pulley, maybe to make it larger in diameter so the belt does not wrap too tightly around (timing belts have a limit on how tightly they can wrap around pulleys). However, the net gear ratio from crankshaft to cam pulleys (driven pulleys) has to be 1:2, as for all 4-stroke engines. Is this right?
Thank you very much for the video! QQ - why some manuals call for 110 Hz tension?
The none DVT are 110 +/- 5 hz but the DVT engine requiment is slightly different.
great video thanks !
Hi there, do you have the specs of the pulley lock tool you can share?
Great video! Thanks for sharing your experience. Quick question: do I understand correctly, that variators are locked (not moving/rotating) on camshafts when the engine is not running? I've heard different opinions on that. Some says that you need to use camshaft locking tool to keep the camshafts in the correct position and then rotate the variators on the camshafts to line up the dots on the variators to be flush with the "head flat surface". Based on your video this is not the case. Do you know if this is the same for MTS 1260 engine? Thanks!
I don't know if the MTS 1260 IS exactly the same. As with most things Ducati there's lots of opinion but very little fact. The variators are held in position with oil pressure. If you hold the cam and apply constant pressure with engine off you could move thr variator but not that easily. This however is completely irrelevant to changing the belts. If anyone tells you that you must hold the cams with the Ducati tool ask them exactly WHY, they won't be able to give you an answer other than because "Ducati says so"
As per the video you are only interested in the relationship between crank and variator position. Thats why its important to lock the crank the whole time so you have a fixed reference point. What the cam is doing under that cam cover isn't important!
How to define how much belt teeth's have to be between rollers?
Ok. I give up. How did he get the vertical cylinder belt off with the horizontal one done? What did I miss?
Hello, thank you for this. I've got plenty of experience of working on japanese bikes, but about to take on changing belts on my monster 1200S for the first time. This should come in very handy.
Sorry if it's obvious, but when you're spinning the crankshaft looking for TDC, how do you know the TDC is for the compression stroke and not the exhaust stroke?
Removing the spark plugs does two things: Make engine easier to turn (always turn forward) and allows you to feel air coming out spark plug hole only when you're on compression stroke. Easy peasy.
@@Mechanicalcircus1 just doing a bit of UA-cam house keeping and saw your comment. Thanks for answering this guys question in such a straight forward way 😁👍
Great vid, very informative. It seems the way bikes are going only guys like you who have the proper tools will be able to work on them. Are you able to turn off the service light on new Triumph bikes? From what I here it's, main dealer only tool?
It's possible for independent repair guys like me to do but cost prohibited for most. I have the technology! The software license alone is over £500 a year without spending thousands on the tool.
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV dealer tool @ dealertoolcouk.ipage.com/ sell a tool to sort triumphs out, lot cheaper to. keep up he great work mate, dont own a duke, own triumph though
LOL, when the title came up I thought "Fantastic I can share this on our Advanced Motorcycle Facebook Page" then the first word was f**k! Great video though, I've always been intrigued about valve checks on a Ducati. Thanks :-) Oh and you're defo not a bell end ;-)
Y la correa de atrás no se cambia?
At last a bloke who knows what he's doing.
I knew I was going to subscribe by 1:38.
2,34 seconds Wow brilliant swear curse everything pall its all good finally a normal honest guy wicked cheers ill follow on now hahaha
…could have a ‘blooper’ reel I suppose. Nahh, 1st-time seeing YOUR channel here..just along for the ride mate!
Interesting video mate 👍
Thanks mate, just waiting for the Shitstorm to descend on me, you know how tribal Ducati people are :)
Superbike Surgery Ltd it all made sense to me Jim, I had to laugh when you said “If you don’t understand two rods on one pin, don’t do your own timing belts” 😂
KW stands for Kurbelwelle, which is German for Crankshaft. :)
Lovely AgA is it coal or oil
yeah sorry watched this witch was great and funny, but there was only one changed? do we get to both changed at all??
The process is the same for both so didn't see the point in showing both.....sorry 😞
@@SuperbikeSurgeryTV so once in the position you both wile all match up and remove and replace both like showed then i guess right?
I saw on HackaweekTV channel he did the belt tension using a electronic guitar tuner :)
Haha... ‘no, fuck it, were all friends’..... hilarious.
Good video, although at the start I thought you were going to have a meltdown 🤣🤣🤣
Love the Ducati videos especially 👍🏻👍🏻
i only got to 44 seconds you make me laugh already hahahaha
Hi. Hoping you're still replying to messages on this video. Very informative. But, I can't figure out where to measure belt tension on Vertical cylinder. Is it between idler and crank? Or between tensioner and crank? I've seen a couple of you tube videos that verify the horizontal cylinder frequency measurment is taken between crank and tensioner. But nothing on vertical cylinder belt. Very helpful video. Hope you get back to me. Thanks. Ross
Hi, It's always the longest run of the belt. So for the vertical cylinder it's between the idler and crank.
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I agree with everyone.. stop beating yourself up over your videos.. There great 👍
Hello mate how can I contact you having a problem with a gsxr thanks
Contact details on the website.
What's the upside using these belts rather than chain? Just curious because this is a money grab imo having to change these all the time
Never did like belts since I watched a belt under a strobe light the belt would have a standing wave at various rpm which is not great for holding a steady timing like a gear or chain would admittedly this was on various car engines but the same will happen on a ducati, they should have stuck to the bevel drive not a rubber band. I don't think I have found a truck, plant or any heavy duty diesel using a rubber band and control of valve timing is less critical on them than a high speed petrol engine
Or you can make one dot on the first sprocket, 2 on the next 3 on the last, make the same dots on the belt, transfer dots from old to new belt, put it on. That tool is so insane, there is room enough for a spring tensioned tensioner, with indicator like on VW,. nothing to take up slack when it gets old.
Lots of ducatisti twist 45° never had a problem with them, some on multiple bikes over donkey's years/miles..... 🤔
nice to see yea Jim :-)
The one thing I forgot is you don’t realy need the crank turning tool. If the bike is on track stands put the bike in 6th gear, take the plugs out and with just your fingers you can rotate the back wheel to get the cam pulley marks lined up with the marks on the engine casing.
Hi my mate has a Ducati diaval and his dealer are saying the belts need doing every 3 years is this correct? I do all my own service work he is not so bright when it comes to mechanics but he’s so scared to let anyone else touch his bike. They want £800 😱
Thats the recommendation, the problem you have is if it isn't done by the dealer or a recognised repair shop you will void any warranty if you have any. The 3 years is a bit of a joke in my opinion if you haven't covered the mileage. That's how the dealers make their money. That big shiny showroom has to be paid for somehow 😁
Superbike Surgery Ltd My thoughts exactly he’s only covering 2k if that. the bikes 2015 and out of warranty anyway.
Jim ...... 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
The only advantage the duc has over most belt driven engines is the short runs between pulleys
Wow £500 for a led light and a 50 pence mic and lcd display all boxed up in a plastic case, god knows how they make a profit !!
There are Ducati Dealers and there are Ducati dealers.
400 quid for a guitar tuner ! Thieving bast.....
Great vid Jim 👍
Compared to japanese bikes Ducatis look like a mare to maintain.
I've changed cam belts on a few and there are no special tools needed!
Have you seen the angry gitarist her on UA-cam 😂
👍👍👍👍😘
I think with how cheap fasteners are compared to the potential costs of major damage to a desmo engine...get new locknuts.
Yes, I think that is a fair argument 👍
my head hurts lol , think i would not try this on my own
Kurbelwinkel!
Wow what a great video. So informative. I didn't hear you talk about the elastic-stop ring nut in your video. (70350062A) Whats the importance of replacing that part and what tool should be used? I'm riding a 2019 Ducati Monster 1200S model.
Checking the resonant frequency of a timing belt ? bonkers engineering - just my opinion of course - Ride safe
Write a script
Not going to happen, I've barely enough time as it is without adding extra work.