I'm trying out some shaders with this playthrough. The cinematic field of view effect has the unfortunate downside of blurring out the UI. Let me know how you all feel about these shaders.
Always worth trying out something new, i only saw your post after watching the video and then went back and looked for differences like the UI being dimmed, for me once i noticed it wasn't too bad, maybe just needs tweaking a little.@@Augimund
Tip for Gondor, just hold E.Osgilith && Cair Andros with a few elite troops and build up your eco. Your eco will soon become a powerhouse then you can push out with relative ease.
I've found on some situations the AI does wait a couple of turns and doesn't auto attack, so you do lose men to attrition, and they have a full stack each turn, not always viable. Depends on your self rules really, you can rush minas ithil and hold there, the black gate doubtful but not impossible, at that point its a matter of what you want the experience to be as.
@aonirsplayground6224 it's about finding the balance with your garrison. Once you get the right balance the AI will always attack thinking it will win, but you easily crush the trash spam
Just make sure to keep tabs on the South. You can lose Pelargir if you don't make sure to keep an adequate garrison there, and that's a big blow to your economy.
I prefer a different tactic. hold everything at once with minimal garrison. Minas Tirith, West, East, fort south of pelennor, two forts in ithilien, fort north of minas tirith. get a ship close by so you can ferry units across anduin. Because your defences are all small, ai thinks you're weak and attacks frequently with smaller stacks than it would use otherwise. But you can reinforce each siege from 5 different spots, after battle shifting units around so the ones without movement get into sieged province while those who stayed there go to forts. It means you are not under any risk of prolonged siege, any location is immediately reinforced by full stack, and you maintain 30+ units basically for free. It holds easily for first 30 turns and by that time all money saved from your army being dirt cheap kickstarts your economy so you can easily double the forces and push out.
Yes, but Harad and Umbar will also attack very soon from the South. I managed to hold off Mordor at Osgiliath and Cair Andros, but the Haradrim and Umbarans invaded me with dozens of full-strength armies while all my forces were in the Northeast lol.
Oh seriously a V6 ! I literally installed v5 last month after finishing my last v4.6 campaign and am only now doing my 1st campaign as Dale 😁😁😁😁well hope i can finish that before new version comes out or i'll be late to the party again.
Dk if this is useful, but the "discounts" from building halls are only applied when you queue things after the building is completed. So, putting buildings in line directly after completing your builders hall doesnt work for that building.
@@AmrothEldarion no one asked you for your opinion, whatever stuff you're saying causes a headache to everyone around you. Don't ever talk, for the love of god.
Hey. UA-cam randomly recommended your channel and i'm glad they did. You clearly knows a lot about this mod and i will certainly will learn a lot watching it
Very excited about addition of EOP to DaC! So that is why Pythax is showing off all the new, gorgeous UIs, weird that there were no announcement earlier.
@@zaki6548 Engine Overhaul Project, it breaks the boundaries of what the base Medieval engine is capable of. It allows for more scripting, the removal of unit caps, generals can have more ancillaries and the like. Its a very important breakthrough for modders.
I've played a couple of Gondor campaigns, and one thing I wish you could do sooner is upgrade Osgiliath, as well as Annuminas and Fornost for the Northern Dunedain. It would be cool if you could choose to upgrade settlements when you occupy them or have certain buildings, instead of upgrading them due to population growth near the natural end of your campaigns when your frontiers are expanded far away from those settlements with zero chance of any battles.
One thing i like to do is to add population to for example Annúminas, let's say 1000. And then remove from regions like the shire or Bree since they are overpopulated. Doesn't break immersion for me atleast, it's like you leader forceably resetteling your subjects.
@@HelpMePleaseOhGodHelpMe Soldiers costing population, and being able to repopulate other cities, will always be something I will dearly miss in this game.
@@thefifthhobbit2092very true. If anything you can sell it for an alliance and some money from Enedwaith. I like to gift it to Rohan and then cheat in a peasant unit to hold it while they get forces over there. Just to add some buffer and time, I tend to leave a few units nearby as well for RP and help defend the buffer while the culture changes. Playing either lothlorien or Gondor I like to help Rohan out as best I can. Mostly infantry helping their mostly cavalry compositions is extremely satisfying.
@@naturalbornpatriot6369 mate this is post V5 Rohan is a top tier faction, Isengard rushes through Enedwaith early. Typically Rohan takes 2 settlements from Isengard early and box then in slowly grabbing more Enedwaith struggles and then thrives, besides it’s ancient Gondorian land why give it to Rohan
New here - looks exiting and very cool. You certainly know your way around the game both strategically and tactically - makes for a great campaign to follow!
Everything you said about religions and defeat traits was spot-on. I hope you have a great time with this campaign. About the next version, it will probably not be v6, but rather v5.x. Have fun!
I am very much looking forward to this campaign. Sorry for taking your challenge rules and suggesting it to Izzy. I did remove it, I just loved the challenge rules so much. Here’s to a great campaign! Utilize Iorthon asap! With luck and good micro, can knock out a rebel army with just one other unit to help.
I did a dunland Campaign and it feels a Little but unsatisfying, with building wulfs hall i espected one last message over the finished Quest. I love to play as the wildmen now, i like realy realy much what you did with those factions
I wish artillery was just a bit more accurate, the slowing on the campaign map, and the worse killing power than even basic archers is really underwhelming.
Very much, i played a lot of DaC.6 campaigns Long objective ( 3 dwarven factions, ar adunaim, high elves, rohan) the dwarven faction are very underwhelming, smaller populations, and their lack of cav, just makes long campaign grinds, genuinely not fun ( not being able to silence the most basic of archers with cavalry from time to time, or being able to chase routing units. i think the solution would be to rework the merc pools, more variability and replensihment,more mercenary units like in the MoS submod.. As for artillary, you don't get that feeling "powerful" that you got in med 2, where seeing a ballista or a catapult in the army made you reconsider attacking, in its current state i feel artillary is just there to trigger AI script to get down the hill and attack, otherwise, even basic archers get on average twice as many kills as my catapults or ballistas. if the dwarves going to be that limited, i think their artillary should be better than other artillary in the game i.e ( special types of ammunition, better accuracy ? or perhaps unique artillary specific to the dwarves ( i think that'd be very lore friendly)
I believe artillery have normal infantry campaign movement speed now (unless they reverted it). Also ballistas are fantastic for defending bridges and settlements. Have infantry on either side of the gate/bridge, giving your ballistas an unobstructed line of sight and they will decimate the clumped up enemies. Try the flaming shot too, it might work better.
I see the point of certain faction eg dwarves having better artillery, but for everyone else, it really should be limited to ease a siege, not used as "field artillery" as that's pretty much a movie trope until the age of gunpowder
Artillery can have a lot of utility in dictating the terms of engagement. Enemy refuses to move off their hill? Shoot at them with arty for a while. It's also incredibly useful when the battle is over a choke point. Just find the largest blob and have at it.
Make sense for the gameplay prospective, but if you play with houserules and lore oriented i think it's better to not change the capital. But good suggestion, I will use it ahahhah
I think the family trees should be expanded to show all the important generals and the families that were mentioned in the book and if the modders want to have the specific characters have their significant others like Arwen for Aragorn and Eowyn for Faramir that would be cool
Maby when all old dwarf holds are restored to a certain level with a specifik building requirement or something. Gundabad and moria factions dead. Idk really but something to make the map pretty when you've already kinda won
I really enjoyed the old DAC submods for Rhun, High Elves and for Gondor/Arnor. Any plans or ideas for more "story driven" mod elements/submods that reward and punish the player for certain goals?
Try launching the game and then ticking the box next to where if says Use strategy alternative strategy map and see if that works with a save game. Also just mousing over the boxes in DAC launcher should tell you what it does. @@boopcorn8747
I absolute hate the stack spam from Mordor - just for that reason I can't bring myself to play Gondor really. I would love to play it, but it just melts my brain.
Hey augimund, in one of your episodes of this series you mentioned a submod in which made dol amroth and gondor one, and expanded on the fiefdom units also. i was wondering if you could tell me the name of/link this submod as im not personally a fan of them being seperate in the campaign. many thanks
Please bring back the old adunaim units 😢. Also are we still able to play with the originel campaign map? This new satellite image is certainly not my cup of tea
I really think it would make sense to get rid of the masons hall buildings in the game. The masons halls are essential everywhere you intend to build really, so that makes me think they’re just a proxy for reducing costs and add nothing in themselves to the game. I wonder if subconsciously the desire to make DaC hard and a challenge has cause a bit of feature bike shedding. The agent limits, removal of priests for culture conversion. I really think the game would play better if there wasn’t such a tight hold on tools the player has.
I disagree. The agent limit is intended to prevent diplomat or religious priest spamming. The AI in the vanilla game spams agents and deploys them to your provinces acting like mini spies. The mason halls also reduce the time it takes to build other buildings. The reduction of time makes building much better. These changes prevent the game from being a slog fest. Although I feel like late game all there is to do is kill stacks upon stacks of enemies, it gets irritating. OH NO my city is being besieged for the 400th time!!!!
They are very limited in number though. Its just to mark progression so they feel more like a growing faction as normal empires would growing in technology as they incorporate the ideas of others that they have conquered
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I'm trying out some shaders with this playthrough. The cinematic field of view effect has the unfortunate downside of blurring out the UI. Let me know how you all feel about these shaders.
Shaders from where, Reshade or your editing software ?
link to download shader pls?
just an opinion. i don't like the shader effects. :) too bright also
@@IceniTotalWar I used a reshade preset. I'm thinking I'll return to vanilla
Always worth trying out something new, i only saw your post after watching the video and then went back and looked for differences like the UI being dimmed, for me once i noticed it wasn't too bad, maybe just needs tweaking a little.@@Augimund
Tip for Gondor, just hold E.Osgilith && Cair Andros with a few elite troops and build up your eco. Your eco will soon become a powerhouse then you can push out with relative ease.
I've found on some situations the AI does wait a couple of turns and doesn't auto attack, so you do lose men to attrition, and they have a full stack each turn, not always viable. Depends on your self rules really, you can rush minas ithil and hold there, the black gate doubtful but not impossible, at that point its a matter of what you want the experience to be as.
@aonirsplayground6224 it's about finding the balance with your garrison. Once you get the right balance the AI will always attack thinking it will win, but you easily crush the trash spam
Just make sure to keep tabs on the South. You can lose Pelargir if you don't make sure to keep an adequate garrison there, and that's a big blow to your economy.
I prefer a different tactic. hold everything at once with minimal garrison. Minas Tirith, West, East, fort south of pelennor, two forts in ithilien, fort north of minas tirith. get a ship close by so you can ferry units across anduin. Because your defences are all small, ai thinks you're weak and attacks frequently with smaller stacks than it would use otherwise. But you can reinforce each siege from 5 different spots, after battle shifting units around so the ones without movement get into sieged province while those who stayed there go to forts. It means you are not under any risk of prolonged siege, any location is immediately reinforced by full stack, and you maintain 30+ units basically for free. It holds easily for first 30 turns and by that time all money saved from your army being dirt cheap kickstarts your economy so you can easily double the forces and push out.
Yes, but Harad and Umbar will also attack very soon from the South. I managed to hold off Mordor at Osgiliath and Cair Andros, but the Haradrim and Umbarans invaded me with dozens of full-strength armies while all my forces were in the Northeast lol.
For Gondor!
Jondor*
Oh seriously a V6 ! I literally installed v5 last month after finishing my last v4.6 campaign and am only now doing my 1st campaign as Dale 😁😁😁😁well hope i can finish that before new version comes out or i'll be late to the party again.
Dk if this is useful, but the "discounts" from building halls are only applied when you queue things after the building is completed. So, putting buildings in line directly after completing your builders hall doesnt work for that building.
was so pissed and relieved when I found that out, saved me so much time and money a couple years ago
its pretty obvious, it's medieval 2 thats just the limitation also queues are unprofessional. dont do them
@@krekk2751Imagine someone going "I'm a professional medieval 2 player 😎 I don't do ******"
@@AmrothEldarion no one asked you for your opinion, whatever stuff you're saying causes a headache to everyone around you. Don't ever talk, for the love of god.
@@krekk2751elaborate?
Hey. UA-cam randomly recommended your channel and i'm glad they did. You clearly knows a lot about this mod and i will certainly will learn a lot watching it
Very excited about addition of EOP to DaC! So that is why Pythax is showing off all the new, gorgeous UIs, weird that there were no announcement earlier.
Also the shaders look bad IMO.
What's an EOP?
@@zaki6548 Engine Overhaul Project, it breaks the boundaries of what the base Medieval engine is capable of. It allows for more scripting, the removal of unit caps, generals can have more ancillaries and the like. Its a very important breakthrough for modders.
I've played a couple of Gondor campaigns, and one thing I wish you could do sooner is upgrade Osgiliath, as well as Annuminas and Fornost for the Northern Dunedain. It would be cool if you could choose to upgrade settlements when you occupy them or have certain buildings, instead of upgrading them due to population growth near the natural end of your campaigns when your frontiers are expanded far away from those settlements with zero chance of any battles.
One thing i like to do is to add population to for example Annúminas, let's say 1000. And then remove from regions like the shire or Bree since they are overpopulated. Doesn't break immersion for me atleast, it's like you leader forceably resetteling your subjects.
@@HelpMePleaseOhGodHelpMe Soldiers costing population, and being able to repopulate other cities, will always be something I will dearly miss in this game.
Don’t forget it’s possible to take Balorn before Enedwaith since it’s also rebel.
I recall that being basically impossible since v4. Besides, the place has been nerfed so much, it's not worth the extra border
@@jeromejerome9395 well it’s not additional Border it’s moving your frontline forward. It has gold mines, and it’s a castle.
@@thefifthhobbit2092very true. If anything you can sell it for an alliance and some money from Enedwaith. I like to gift it to Rohan and then cheat in a peasant unit to hold it while they get forces over there. Just to add some buffer and time, I tend to leave a few units nearby as well for RP and help defend the buffer while the culture changes. Playing either lothlorien or Gondor I like to help Rohan out as best I can. Mostly infantry helping their mostly cavalry compositions is extremely satisfying.
@@naturalbornpatriot6369 mate this is post V5 Rohan is a top tier faction, Isengard rushes through Enedwaith early. Typically Rohan takes 2 settlements from Isengard early and box then in slowly grabbing more Enedwaith struggles and then thrives, besides it’s ancient Gondorian land why give it to Rohan
@@thefifthhobbit2092flavor, buffer, and RP that’s why. Numenorean colonies but yeah. I just enjoy fighting battles with allied armies
Boromir kinda need new portrait...he looks dreadful in this current portrait. Maybe something from the first movie when he joined the fellowship ..
New here - looks exiting and very cool. You certainly know your way around the game both strategically and tactically - makes for a great campaign to follow!
Everything you said about religions and defeat traits was spot-on. I hope you have a great time with this campaign. About the next version, it will probably not be v6, but rather v5.x. Have fun!
Regarding artillery, unless DaC changed them, flaming shot should be less accurate than regular shot.
I love the idea that factions such as Harad, Isengard and others have their own Religion!
Cool. Glad to see DAC alive and kicking!
I am very much looking forward to this campaign. Sorry for taking your challenge rules and suggesting it to Izzy. I did remove it, I just loved the challenge rules so much. Here’s to a great campaign! Utilize Iorthon asap! With luck and good micro, can knock out a rebel army with just one other unit to help.
Oh I had no problem with that haha 🤣
I did a dunland Campaign and it feels a Little but unsatisfying, with building wulfs hall i espected one last message over the finished Quest.
I love to play as the wildmen now, i like realy realy much what you did with those factions
Serelond is great. You can get more Pinnath Gelin cav from there.
I wish artillery was just a bit more accurate, the slowing on the campaign map, and the worse killing power than even basic archers is really underwhelming.
For my knowledge, they removed the slowing campaign movement range for artillery
Very much, i played a lot of DaC.6 campaigns Long objective ( 3 dwarven factions, ar adunaim, high elves, rohan)
the dwarven faction are very underwhelming, smaller populations, and their lack of cav, just makes long campaign grinds, genuinely not fun ( not being able to silence the most basic of archers with cavalry from time to time, or being able to chase routing units. i think the solution would be to rework the merc pools, more variability and replensihment,more mercenary units like in the MoS submod..
As for artillary, you don't get that feeling "powerful" that you got in med 2, where seeing a ballista or a catapult in the army made you reconsider attacking, in its current state i feel artillary is just there to trigger AI script to get down the hill and attack, otherwise, even basic archers get on average twice as many kills as my catapults or ballistas.
if the dwarves going to be that limited, i think their artillary should be better than other artillary in the game i.e ( special types of ammunition, better accuracy ? or perhaps unique artillary specific to the dwarves ( i think that'd be very lore friendly)
I believe artillery have normal infantry campaign movement speed now (unless they reverted it). Also ballistas are fantastic for defending bridges and settlements. Have infantry on either side of the gate/bridge, giving your ballistas an unobstructed line of sight and they will decimate the clumped up enemies. Try the flaming shot too, it might work better.
I see the point of certain faction eg dwarves having better artillery, but for everyone else, it really should be limited to ease a siege, not used as "field artillery" as that's pretty much a movie trope until the age of gunpowder
Artillery can have a lot of utility in dictating the terms of engagement. Enemy refuses to move off their hill? Shoot at them with arty for a while.
It's also incredibly useful when the battle is over a choke point. Just find the largest blob and have at it.
One thing you should do to get rid of corruption is to set Tarnost as your capital, you’ll earn a lot more money that way.
Make sense for the gameplay prospective, but if you play with houserules and lore oriented i think it's better to not change the capital. But good suggestion, I will use it ahahhah
Pretty sure he does this relatively early in the video haha
I think the family trees should be expanded to show all the important generals and the families that were mentioned in the book and if the modders want to have the specific characters have their significant others like Arwen for Aragorn and Eowyn for Faramir that would be cool
Some scripts of alliance between dwarws and Elves would be much appreciated, i like mixed rosters
I like the shadders in battle, but they give a weird effect in the campaign map so you could switch them.
I'd love more confederation scripts. Thinking mostly of the dwarfs since it feels bad to fight then but also when they take something before you
Maby when all old dwarf holds are restored to a certain level with a specifik building requirement or something. Gundabad and moria factions dead. Idk really but something to make the map pretty when you've already kinda won
I can hear Adrian von Zeigler in the background
I really enjoyed the old DAC submods for Rhun, High Elves and for Gondor/Arnor.
Any plans or ideas for more "story driven" mod elements/submods that reward and punish the player for certain goals?
Great job. Subscribed
Love the Izzy support!❤
I literally just came from his last Noldor video !
@@IceniTotalWar i'm loving that campaign
@@thatdacguy3282 same
Mordor is messed up in v5. Each time I play, Mordor is inactive, chickens out before everyone and gets rekt by Gondor.
awesome love your content
Mans now gondorian infantry?! Fokken using him now!
if there was a way to restrict army size to command stars that doesnt absolutely fray the AI, i would take that mod in a heartbeat
Is it me or is the colorsaturation (or something like that) diffrent? I did enjoy this first episode :)
he's using some new shaders, let him know in the pinned comment if you like/dislike them .
I was wondering where do i get this map look that you have. It looks so beautiful
That's the AGO Sub mod campaign map, in the DAC launcher choose 1st option Alternate strategy textures.
@@IceniTotalWar I chose to start game without launcher to show up, is there a way to open it through game files?
Try launching the game and then ticking the box next to where if says Use strategy alternative strategy map and see if that works with a save game. Also just mousing over the boxes in DAC launcher should tell you what it does. @@boopcorn8747
@@boopcorn8747edit the launcher config file
V6? Nice
Make East Osgiliath mor defensible.
I absolute hate the stack spam from Mordor - just for that reason I can't bring myself to play Gondor really. I would love to play it, but it just melts my brain.
where can we see the changelog of this version compared to the V5 DaC ?
Love it!
I do not like the blocking of larger armies
Video title says v6, might wanna edit that to v5
Hey augimund, in one of your episodes of this series you mentioned a submod in which made dol amroth and gondor one, and expanded on the fiefdom units also. i was wondering if you could tell me the name of/link this submod as im not personally a fan of them being seperate in the campaign. many thanks
@@rossdaley5829 Hi, you'll want to check out the AGO mod if I'm remembering correctly.
epic unity rework
"NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! OK, YOU ARE DONE!" xD
did the engine overhaul also update stuff like pathing as well as command reaction of units?
Whatever happened to the flying swordsman unit? Haven't seen it since mos submod. Is it still in the game?
Please bring back the old adunaim units 😢. Also are we still able to play with the originel campaign map? This new satellite image is certainly not my cup of tea
Yes, the textures I am using are from AGO and they are an optional install included in the files.
If you’re going to play anduin you should play ur in AGO for the skin changers alone
graphics are feel weird
he was trying out some new shaders. Check his pinned comment.
@@IceniTotalWar i wrote after 5 min
Where do I download v6 beta? Also could we add an very easy difficulty level. I have trouble winning the game even on easy difficulty.
I really think it would make sense to get rid of the masons hall buildings in the game. The masons halls are essential everywhere you intend to build really, so that makes me think they’re just a proxy for reducing costs and add nothing in themselves to the game. I wonder if subconsciously the desire to make DaC hard and a challenge has cause a bit of feature bike shedding. The agent limits, removal of priests for culture conversion. I really think the game would play better if there wasn’t such a tight hold on tools the player has.
I disagree. The agent limit is intended to prevent diplomat or religious priest spamming. The AI in the vanilla game spams agents and deploys them to your provinces acting like mini spies. The mason halls also reduce the time it takes to build other buildings. The reduction of time makes building much better. These changes prevent the game from being a slog fest. Although I feel like late game all there is to do is kill stacks upon stacks of enemies, it gets irritating. OH NO my city is being besieged for the 400th time!!!!
Which one is better? DAC or third age total war reforged?
@@valentinocba DAC has the better campaign, reforged is tailored for multiplayer battles.
Do you feel like Gondor has poor autoresolve too?
Are the naffuten in the game? Should be galadriel
how you turn on camera thing??
Can i play this game on laptop Intel core pavallion?
When is V6 releasing?
Say gorgeous again
Would you consider doing a 1v1 vs Izzy like he did with Sapherz? I thought it was very interesting content.
You rusty as hell my guy. That Ranger micro hurt my soul.
cmon bro give Denethor some hair. not cool
When you guus going to nerf Dunland? Wildmen who have little in the way of Archers, armor and cavalry, now having op units for each? Like, what?
They are very limited in number though. Its just to mark progression so they feel more like a growing faction as normal empires would growing in technology as they incorporate the ideas of others that they have conquered
@@bigthoughts2644
The AI dosnt have such restrictions.
So maybe he is complaining about that.
He isnt part of the modding team
Bro. 70 min. And there is not 5 second that u don’t talk. Stop talk that much. Omg.