Knocked it out of the park, gentlemen! This isn't just "how to get the best picture," this is pretty much the definitive guide on all the options for playing Game Boy titles.
Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 0:38 Theme song 0:54 Video Overview and Info about Game Boy 2:08 *Part 1: Handheld Game Boy* 2:08 Game Boy Pocket 2:42 Game Boy Light 3:33 Game Boy Color 5:29 Game Boy Advance 6:29 Game Boy Advance SP (AGS-001) 7:22 Nintendo DS 8:05 Game Boy Advance SP (AGS-101) 9:21 Game Boy Micro 10:14 Nintendo DS Lite 10:45 Closing to Part 1 11:19 *Part 2: Game Boy on TV* 11:45 Super Game Boy 17:48 Super Game Boy 2 20:35 -Game Boy Player- jk, let's cover Wide-Boy 64 AGB first. 27:16 N64 Transfer Pak (emulation for Pokémon games only, other games can be hacked to play but have issues) N64 Transfer Pak can also be used to unlock things in certain games when paired with a respective N64 title. 28:16 Game Boy Player and Game Boy Interface homebrew software (better than boot disc!) (also check out Swiss) 40:00 *Part 3: Mods and More* 40:19 DMG Game Boy backlight and bivert mod 41:02 How to fix vertical lines of missing pixels on a DMG Game Boy 41:50 hdmyboy modkit (prototype) 45:15 Game Boy Pocket backlight and bivert mod 45:49 Game Boy Color frontlight mod 46:04 Game Boy Advance backlight mod (AGS-101 screen) 46:49 Nintendo DS capture card mod 49:42 Super Game Boy underclock/overclock mod (no need for a Super Game Boy 2 or HORI pad!) 50:18 Upcoming mods - stay tuned 50:36 GB Boy Colour 52:02 Super Retro Advance Adapter 53:23 REVO-K101 56:12 3DS Virtual Console 58:16 Wii U Virtual Console 59:23 RetroN 5 1:00:31 PC emulators, such as Gambatte and RetroArch + Gambatte Core or mGBA Core (GBC-style palettes customizable like SGB, and shaders) 1:01:09 Conclusion 1:01:54 Handheld summary and console summary Your quest is over. 1:02:28 End credits The End
Be sure to watch other RGB episodes (and the one episode of This Does Not Compute) mentioned in the video for more info! Please read the in-video notes for more info too.
PS: Backlighting a Game Boy Color has since become possible by modding the signals of the GBC and using a special ribbon cable to get it to work with an AGS-101 screen. This Does Not Compute has since made more videos. Search for Game Boy Color Backlight.
The production quality and sheer scope, depth and passion within this video is outrageous and far too good for us mere consumers. Breathtaking in every respect.
Guys, your RGB Master Class series is incredible. I feel like I get a college-level lecture on video signals and outputs every time a new one comes out. Thank y'all for taking the time to research, test, script, shoot, and edit these - these are hands down the best resource for getting the best image quality out of retro games, which is something sorely lacking. I would hazard a guess that the poor upscaling in modern TVs is part of the reason why retro gaming is still a niche community, but your videos are working to dispel myths and improve the quality of all these older games. As a retro gamer myself, I have a deep appreciation for the time, energy, and money that goes into these labors of love, so thank you very much for making these!
Wow guys, words cannot described how great this episode was, well worth the wait. I'm just gonna add a few things regarding controls sine they may be useful for others: 1- Some games were programmed to take advantage of the fact that the SNES/SFC could use multiple controllers. The following GameBoy games can be played 2 players simultaneously when using a Super GameBoy 1 or 2: Battle Arena Toshinden Dragon Ball Z: Goku Hishouden Dragon Ball Z 2: Goku Gekitouden Kettou Beast Wars: Beast Senshi Saikyou Ketteisen Killer Instinct King Of Fighters '95 King Of Fighters - Heat of The Battle Nekketsu! Beach Volley dayo Kunio-kun Nettou Garou Densetsu 2: Aratanaru Tatakai Nettou Real Bout Garou Densetsu Special Nettou Samurai Spirits: Zankurou Musouken Nintama Rantarou GB Nintama Rantarou GB: Eawase Challenge Puzzle Pocket Puyo Puyo 2 Pocket Puyo Sun Power Quest Puyo Puyo Puzzle Nintama Rantarou GB Samurai Shodown SD Hiryuu No Ken Gaiden SD Hiryuu No Ken Gaiden 2 SD Hiryuu no Ken EX Street Fighter II Super Chinese Fighter GB Super Chinese Land 3 Super Chinese Land 1.2.3' World Heroes 2 Jet The following titles can be played with up to 4 players using an SNES/SFC Multitap when using a Super GameBoy 1 or 2:: Bomberman GB (Wario Blast) Bomberman GB 2 (Bomberman GB outside of Japan) Bomberman Collection (contains Bomberman GB 1 & 2) Jinsei Game 2- While raphnet-tech's SNES to GameCube converter is nice, it has one major flaw in my opinion, the button mapping for SNES for when using GBA games. When using any controller where the face buttons form a diamond shape, it's better to use the West buttons (Y for SNES) for action and the South button (B for SNES) to Jump. Raphnet-tech's converter does not allow this in SNES mode, only NES mode which removes the convenient usage of L & R. My alternative is to use a basic SNES to GameCube converter that you can by for cheap on ebay or Amazon and an SNES Power Plug, a 3rd party device that was made by Tyco in the 90' and licensed by Nintendo. This device will allow you to remap all of the buttons on your SNES controller. For games like Metroid Fusion, you can remap your buttons to jump with B and shoot with Y. While for RPGs like Pokemon, you can remap Start on X and Select on A, giving you DS style Pokemon controls for your GBA games.
You could also use a Raphnet N64 to Gamecube adapter as an option for playing on the Gameboy Player. It may sound weird at first to think of using the N64's odd controller for this, but if you really think about it the N64 controller with its D-Pad all the way to the left, the A and B buttons at a slant and the convenient placement of the L and R shoulder buttons may make it a candidate for a really nice controller to use with Gameboy games. If the original controller bothers you still, then you can use the same Raphnet adapter with Retro Fighters new controller called the Brawler 64 which has a much more modern layout.
This type of content like yours, LGR, and Techmoan to name a few are what makes UA-cam such a wonderful place. Not unlike most of the crap you find making millions of views.
[Try4ce] It did, no joke! I spent almost all of November shooting and editing it, not to mention all the research and writing that went into it beforehand!
WOOOOW METAL JESUS !!!! Hey jesus, i bought a gba classic yesterday, and i never had one, so i didnt know how to react to the fact the GBA screen flickers, its like if have interference of some kind but some people tell me its normal, and so others tell me its rare stuff. What do you think about this??? regards !!!
It should be noted that the micro’s colors are CLOSER to what the console was originally meant to present. GBA games were made with a non-illuminated LCD in mind, so the colors were severely intensified to make them appear vivid on a dark LCD. When the backlit SP came along, the colors became comically over-saturated as a result. The micro purposefully addressed/fixed this issue.
Man I'm so glad I found this channel. It was years ago and I can't stop watching. It has become my favorite youtube channel. Thanks MLiG for making my down time interesting!
You missed an interesting one. Goomba Color. It's a Game Boy Color emulator for GBA. It allows you to play GB/GBC games on a Game Boy Micro. But what's most interesting is that it supports Game Boy Color enhancements AND Super Game Boy borders at the same time. You can play LInk's Awakening DX, in full color with the SGB border and on original Nintendo hardware!
I just wanna point out. On a modded 3DS, you can remove the dark filter you were talking about and play all GBA games perfectly with virtual console injection. Modding a 3DS is super easy right now.
TheBlackSoul Wouldn’t you want the Dark Filter however? Most GBA games were not designed to be seen natively, and for a few games “restores” GBP palettes.
Wow. I had no idea my GBA was an "AGS-101" until watching this video. I didn't even know that there were two versions of the GBA SP before watching this video either!
Nowadays thanks to the 3DS homebrew scene now you can play practically the whole GBA library on the 3DS using the same method of the ambassador program, with some improvements :)
Tri4ce did an amazing job on editing. This entire video felt so easy to watch and had all the bullet points at the end to sum it all up. Seriously good.
I believe that you missed the fact that some Super Game Boy enhanced games have extra audio effects when played on a Super Game Boy, using the SNES's sound chip.
[Try4ce] Yeah, we acknowledged that there are features besides colors and border, but didn't say what. Since the video was so long as it was, we tried to mostly stick to video-related aspects. Though we went off the rails a few times, like with the Hori controllers.
an hour might seem like too long for a UA-cam vid, but it was chock full of really nice info and very entertaining. this is the first time watching one of your videos and you definitely earned the sub. can't wait to go through your other vids, and watch the ones to come!
im not a retro gaming guy, but damn, this is some superb channel. Who would take so much effort on such a small niche? Good audio, good video, good cutting, very good quality comparisons... Why hasn't youtube promoted this channel to me before?
Thank you for this video. I never knew about Swiss and GBI until I saw this. I now have a Game Boy Player running GBI-SR at 240p over RGB SCART (sync over composite for guaranteed compatibility across devices). Managed to get the config files to default to my desired settings and set GBI-SR to autoexec so it's as simple as boot and play like as if it's stock. One handy thing about being a PAL gamer is having a HDTV with SCART still supported and actually upscaled rather well without the need for a separate upscaler device (thank you Panasonic).
Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I am DEFINITELY keeping this high quality video in mind. I've been really wanting to get back into playing Game Boy/Color/Advance games, so this came at a perfect time for me.
As a kid I had a Game Boy Advance. At night I played with my brother's Game Boy Advance SP while he was asleep. When he was moving out he gave me his Game Boy Advance SP. I had a bag filled with my Game Boy Advance, Game Boy Advance SP, & LeapFrog Didj along with many games. Unfortunately that bag of nostalgia got stolen.
What I still don't understand is why North America and Europe never got the Game Boy Light or the Super Game Boy 2, nor why the SGB2 was released for the Super Famicom/Super Nintendo instead of the Nintendo 64.
*applause* Absolutely stand-out work on this episode, you guys. This must've taken an eternity to research, get the hardware, do all the in-depth analysis, and put together the script and video itself. I'm seriously impressed. You two deserve WAY more attention.
11:25 - LOL I was holding my Game Boy DMG and by accident turned it on with Mario Land 2 just in time for the music to almost perfectly line up with the video. It was eerie.
Wow, this is the most detailed video about Gameboy family of handhelds. I've played GB,GBC,GBA SP,DS and 3DS. I currently own two 3DS XLs, GBC GBA SP and GB player for Game Cube. I haven't done any mods to my handhelds but the mod makes games look really good and crisp. Great video guys keep em coming.
Wow,Tons of great info here! The only one extra thing worth mentioning is the 'monster brain' Aside to being a cheat device, it allows custom pallets for GB games on a real GBC, it can also (attempt) to run GB games in GBC mode with the extra cpu speed As well as stipping Dual mode GBC games back to GB mode, so you could run Say zelda DX or tetris DX with one of the generic gbc pallets (including black&white)!
[Try4ce] Woah that's very interesting, I had never heard of that! It also appears to be very cheap. It seems to be designed for Pokemon games. It works with any Game Boy game, though? I've just never been that big of a fan of the GBC palettes.
Yes, it works for just about any gb/gbc game. and it even has a feature that makes it act as a budget 'mega memory card' It's a great device that many people have never heard of! and unlike the SGB, your custom pallets can be saved in the devices (non-volatile memory) I'd really suggest checking out!
Holy crap that HDMY Boy thing looks amazing! I really hope the developers finish development and start selling the things soon! I really like the idea of a Game Boy sandwich, I kinda hope that feature of the prototype makes it to the final build.
*slow clap* Amazing video and in depth information as always gentlemen. I've never once watched one of your videos and thought "Why didn't they touch on X as an option.".
Amazing video! Such in-depth research translated in a clean, friendly-to-watch video that can be as helpful and entertaining to enthusiasts and casual players. Good job!
probably not long if you know the trick, wet clean with an electronics wipe, dry with a kymball blue towel, then rub it down very lightly with a dryer sheet and redry it with a different kymball blue towel. the drier sheet cuts a ton of the static out so dust is lees likely to be attracted back to it for a relatively short time.
Not only is this video well written and extremely informative, it was also very well shot. The camerawork is simply top notch. Kudos to you guys on your excellent videos.
Man, I have component cables for my cube but I didnt realize the official software isn't good. This video is inspiring me to get some gamecube homebrew, but I don't know what exactly I need to start.
[Try4ce] Some sort of SD media card reader for GameCube memory slots for starters. Then, your disc-launcher methods are either an Action Replay, or there is a method you can use via Super Smash Bros. Melee, which I am unfamiliar with... should be easy to search for, though.
paulink you can build your own SD memory card adapter. Or purchase an SD gecko (they were pretty cheap back in the day, not sure if they're still that easy to come by though). Then if you have an action replay, there is a set of codes you can use and instead of swapping discs you just open and close the lid with the action replay disc still inside and it will boot from your SD gecko (or DIY adapter). You need certain files in certain places on the SD card but just Google and you should find what you need.
I find this kind of stuff fascinating even though I don't collect retro myself. These are also the kinds of videos I watch when I get the urge to start collecting, just because I'm reminded that it can be a nightmare lol
@@AnonymousGentooman not necessarily. The super boy. The GB player and the Transfer pack for n64 all of them where made with the hardware of the system. So doing a similar thing with the 3DS hardware wouldn't be so difficult since a 2DS cost 80$ they could have produced a 3DS adapter for 60$ taking away the screen and everything else
@The SNES Man at thai point os obvious that is not gonna happen. but back in 2014 that would be the best. probably we wouldn't see 3DS games on a long time
Despite the fact that I don't have a problem with composite video, and don't really care all that much about 100% crisp video, these videos are still very entertaining and fun to watch, keep it up!
MLiG Saves the Game Boy's Christmas: The Holiday Extravaganza. One factor to note for the SP vs. the original GBA is the headphone jack: the original model has one, but all SPs do not. Understandable why it isn't brought up, not your area, but it is an important factor for many, so I'm putting it here for those folks.
RarefoilB The lack of a Headphone jack always seemed like the biggest oversight of the SP to me, and the adapters for that just seem like a clunky alternative.
[Try4ce] Yeah, it crossed my mind to mention it (I have the adapter somewhere), but decided not to since we didn't want to spend too much time straying from video quality when the video was already so long.
If I'm being honest, you guys over at Mlig should DEFINITELY do a series on game console audio quality. Most consoles need it. *COUGH* the Sega genesis *COUGH*
+RaptureWillRiseAgain [Try4ce] Heh, I guess we mix it up a bit. Usually that line is born from not having any better ideas for how to get into it. It may come back in the future!
I just watched this entire thing from start to finish... and the intro alone is what made me subscribe to you because that entire intro was phenomenal great job guys for real
If you want to play on the big screen... sorry, but emulation really is the superior way in this case. Like mention in the video, both the Super GB and the GB Player runs at ~60hz instead of the GBs/GBAs native ~59.7hz. You will never get the perfect silky smooth scrolling of the original hardware that way, there's always going to be a hitch every few seconds. With emulators you can slightly speed up the hardware to match your monitors refresh rate, or even better, if own a CRT or GSYNC monitor you can actually run the games at their original ~59.7hz.
Incredible episode, even years later! Who'd have thought the PAL GameCube would still have a major use case? I still beam at seeing my name at 39:55 and the end credits. Thanks, folks. :D
Regarding GBA on 3DS - this is the BEST way to play GBA games - even better than any TV or 'real' GBA hardware mode. It uses 100% GBA hardware and firmware and therefore doesn't utilise any emulation whatsoever. As you allude to, the Ambassador releases are terrible however - with added darkness and ghosting filters applied. If you install a custom firmware that patches the AGB-FIRM inside your 3DS you can use homebrew tools to create your own installable GBA titles free of the ugly filters Nintendo likes to use on some of their VC titles (the 3DS NES VC titles are also terrible - and also fixed by making your own NES VC games) . As an owner of a AGS101-modded original GBA I never thought the 3DS family would effectively make actual GBA hardware redundant, but it actually does so with ease - and I'll probably never use my older handhelds again. My favoured way to play GBA games in all their glory is actually on a CFW'd 2DS because this has arguably the best ergonomics of any Nintando handheld.
General Light You also lose a larger 1:1 aspect ratio display that you find on a modded OG GBA - but you can patch / find patched e-reader content if you really want it. For example, the Mario 3 e-reader levels that were included in the WiiU reissue can be patched in, and is arguably a superior solution to the real thing because a real cartridge hasn't got the spare memory to hold all the extra stuff. Not to mention having truly native support for three entire libraries on one hand held (GBA, DS and 3DS). That's pretty awesome by any measure.
General Light I don't think Nintendo have ever acknowledged the ghosting and darkness filters that are applied on the official 3DS NES and Ambassador GBA virtual console releases, let alone explain why they're applied. However, a minority of early GBA releases used super-bright palettes in order to compensate for the dark screen of the original unit, and these games probably benefit from the darkness filter to reduce the issue of crushed whites. There's also one case in which the added ghosting is beneficial: The GBA F-Zero games have a persistent map graphic on the bottom left of the screen, and without the filters its ultra high refresh rate can leave temporary screen burn on the 3DS screen. For the vast majority of the GBA library though the removal of the darkness / ghosting makes these games shine.
This video was absolutely outstanding! It has EVERYTHING! You guys rock! EDIT: I like how 1:1:56 you guys show the original Gameboy Pocket before the battery indicator light was added. I still have my yellow version that came without it and hastily wrote down every Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle II level code I could before the batteries died, much to my parents' chagrin; the only perceivable indicator was a decrease in contrast as the batteries came close to dying. My little brother, of course, got a red GBP that included the indicator light, though he eventually gave it to me since he's not a retro gamer.
I love the RGB 2xx series. Not so much for advice on best picture, but information on the iterations of systems and the mods out there. I hope for more 2xx series in the future.
Now that I see in this episode, the SNES' Video Quality even with 1Chip Consoles is a bit blurry compared to pure Digital Solutions... I hope one day people will be able to find a way to get pure Digital Signals out of the SNES even if it is near impossible... For now.... :3
Helloz World Yeah. There ought to be digital out mods for everything. Especially since the tech landscape is becoming more and more accepting of digital standards.
There's less of a push for digital on the SNES because you can actually get a really nice RGB picture if you know what to look for. The latest in the sharpest possible SNES picture is to now mod the mini model with a new 7374 RGB amp chip with the chip's filtering turned off. RetroRGB and I discovered this when we tested several models of SNES using a custom zoom profile with the Framemeister. With the filter turned off, the 7374-modded SNES mini puts out about the sharpest RGB picture I've seen yet, and it's only surpassed by digital images from emulators. However, the SNES 'suffers' from the same non-square resolution as the NES, and as such, using an RGB mod + Framemeister gives a much better solution for correcting the aspect ratio to 4:3. On digital images, correcting to 4:3 will leave random pixels oblong, which leads to shimmering artifacts during scrolling. The workaround is to slightly blur the edges in order to 'average' the width of the pixels, but this just mimics what the Framemeister already does naturally. You'd have to get used to playing with an image that is too wide or too skinny if you wanted to take full advantage of a digital picture's clarity. That's why a modded 1CHIP + Framemeister (and integer profiling) is a superb way to play games on the SNES.
@Frozen, Most were, some weren't. However, since the SNES was in fact intended for 4:3 usage, that's what most people prefer to see the screen at. Take for example the triforce intro in Link to the Past. At 4:3 AR, the triforce are at perfect angles. At square pixel AR, they are oddly squished too skinny.
@ Helloz, depends on if you use a Framemeister or just going straight to a PVM. If you're upscaling with a Framemeister, it's worth getting a 7374, but make sure the filtering mode is disabled when you install it. That's the key to making the pixels super sharp.
[Try4ce] Well, obviously there are countless ways to emulate. Our videos are always going to first and foremost be about using real hardware, but we've started to try to include a bit of emulation. A lot of people want us to do videos all about emulation, but honestly there are a lot of people who are much more knowledgeable about it than we are. It's really not our area of expertise, so we just like to mention it in brief.
***** thanks for answering I really enjoyed the video I learned a lot just curious if you played emulators on android or psp and what was your thoughts and if you liked it keep up the good work
***** I recently got a psp go and I really enjoyed NES emulator along with the GB, GBC and the GBA emulators the only one I was disappointed with was the snes emulator
you should try out the genesis emulator, it's amazing but yeah, SNES on PSP isn't too hot, while there are 3 good ones, compatibility is always an issue.
Knocked it out of the park, gentlemen! This isn't just "how to get the best picture," this is pretty much the definitive guide on all the options for playing Game Boy titles.
This Does Not Compute Yeah, my personal favourite is the Gameboy Micro!
Deku Pawel the micro can only run GB and GBC games using an emulator though, not natively
Hey Colin!
This Does Not Compute why are you here
Definitely agree, I must have watched this video over 20 times it is just that entertaining and informative
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:38 Theme song
0:54 Video Overview and Info about Game Boy
2:08 *Part 1: Handheld Game Boy*
2:08 Game Boy Pocket
2:42 Game Boy Light
3:33 Game Boy Color
5:29 Game Boy Advance
6:29 Game Boy Advance SP (AGS-001)
7:22 Nintendo DS
8:05 Game Boy Advance SP (AGS-101)
9:21 Game Boy Micro
10:14 Nintendo DS Lite
10:45 Closing to Part 1
11:19 *Part 2: Game Boy on TV*
11:45 Super Game Boy
17:48 Super Game Boy 2
20:35 -Game Boy Player- jk, let's cover Wide-Boy 64 AGB first.
27:16 N64 Transfer Pak (emulation for Pokémon games only, other games can be hacked to play but have issues)
N64 Transfer Pak can also be used to unlock things in certain games when paired with a respective N64 title.
28:16 Game Boy Player and Game Boy Interface homebrew software (better than boot disc!) (also check out Swiss)
40:00 *Part 3: Mods and More*
40:19 DMG Game Boy backlight and bivert mod
41:02 How to fix vertical lines of missing pixels on a DMG Game Boy
41:50 hdmyboy modkit (prototype)
45:15 Game Boy Pocket backlight and bivert mod
45:49 Game Boy Color frontlight mod
46:04 Game Boy Advance backlight mod (AGS-101 screen)
46:49 Nintendo DS capture card mod
49:42 Super Game Boy underclock/overclock mod (no need for a Super Game Boy 2 or HORI pad!)
50:18 Upcoming mods - stay tuned
50:36 GB Boy Colour
52:02 Super Retro Advance Adapter
53:23 REVO-K101
56:12 3DS Virtual Console
58:16 Wii U Virtual Console
59:23 RetroN 5
1:00:31 PC emulators, such as Gambatte and RetroArch + Gambatte Core or mGBA Core (GBC-style palettes customizable like SGB, and shaders)
1:01:09 Conclusion
1:01:54 Handheld summary and console summary
Your quest is over.
1:02:28 End credits
The End
Note: The N64's 2 layers of blur effect can be disabled. Watch RGB 304 for more.
Be sure to watch other RGB episodes (and the one episode of This Does Not Compute) mentioned in the video for more info! Please read the in-video notes for more info too.
Another note: GBI has changed since this video. Look it up for more.
PS: Backlighting a Game Boy Color has since become possible by modding the signals of the GBC and using a special ribbon cable to get it to work with an AGS-101 screen. This Does Not Compute has since made more videos. Search for Game Boy Color Backlight.
By the way, the other half of the 3DS Ambassador titles were for NES.
This video is an A+. I don’t think I’ve ever watched something so thorough.
The production quality and sheer scope, depth and passion within this video is outrageous and far too good for us mere consumers. Breathtaking in every respect.
This was the first video I watched on this channel. 2 years later, I'm happily addicted and begging for more!
Woah skul!
This is BY FAR, the most detailed and informative GB videos I've ever seen! I'm SO impressed!
The tricky tick Did we watch the same video????
Holy crap, epic video is epic.
Lazy Game Reviews it sure is :)
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Sorry for asking again, but how's that AT power supply going?
Lazy Game Reviews woah, I found an epic comment!
TCPixel hi
Just a few minutes in and I had no idea that black Game Boy cartridges were enhanced! Love learning new stuff from you guys :D
I knew that. I noticed it when I switched from a GB pocket to a gbc.
Is it weird that MLiG videos are nostalgic to me? I literally watch them over and over agian!
Guys, your RGB Master Class series is incredible. I feel like I get a college-level lecture on video signals and outputs every time a new one comes out. Thank y'all for taking the time to research, test, script, shoot, and edit these - these are hands down the best resource for getting the best image quality out of retro games, which is something sorely lacking.
I would hazard a guess that the poor upscaling in modern TVs is part of the reason why retro gaming is still a niche community, but your videos are working to dispel myths and improve the quality of all these older games. As a retro gamer myself, I have a deep appreciation for the time, energy, and money that goes into these labors of love, so thank you very much for making these!
Wow guys, words cannot described how great this episode was, well worth the wait. I'm just gonna add a few things regarding controls sine they may be useful for others:
1- Some games were programmed to take advantage of the fact that the SNES/SFC could use multiple controllers.
The following GameBoy games can be played 2 players simultaneously when using a Super GameBoy 1 or 2:
Battle Arena Toshinden
Dragon Ball Z: Goku Hishouden
Dragon Ball Z 2: Goku Gekitouden
Kettou Beast Wars: Beast Senshi Saikyou Ketteisen
Killer Instinct
King Of Fighters '95
King Of Fighters - Heat of The Battle
Nekketsu! Beach Volley dayo Kunio-kun
Nettou Garou Densetsu 2: Aratanaru Tatakai
Nettou Real Bout Garou Densetsu Special
Nettou Samurai Spirits: Zankurou Musouken
Nintama Rantarou GB
Nintama Rantarou GB: Eawase Challenge Puzzle
Pocket Puyo Puyo 2
Pocket Puyo Sun
Power Quest
Puyo Puyo
Puzzle Nintama Rantarou GB
Samurai Shodown
SD Hiryuu No Ken Gaiden
SD Hiryuu No Ken Gaiden 2
SD Hiryuu no Ken EX
Street Fighter II
Super Chinese Fighter GB
Super Chinese Land 3
Super Chinese Land 1.2.3'
World Heroes 2 Jet
The following titles can be played with up to 4 players using an SNES/SFC Multitap when using a Super GameBoy 1 or 2::
Bomberman GB (Wario Blast)
Bomberman GB 2 (Bomberman GB outside of Japan)
Bomberman Collection (contains Bomberman GB 1 & 2)
Jinsei Game
2- While raphnet-tech's SNES to GameCube converter is nice, it has one major flaw in my opinion, the button mapping for SNES for when using GBA games. When using any controller where the face buttons form a diamond shape, it's better to use the West buttons (Y for SNES) for action and the South button (B for SNES) to Jump. Raphnet-tech's converter does not allow this in SNES mode, only NES mode which removes the convenient usage of L & R.
My alternative is to use a basic SNES to GameCube converter that you can by for cheap on ebay or Amazon and an SNES Power Plug, a 3rd party device that was made by Tyco in the 90' and licensed by Nintendo. This device will allow you to remap all of the buttons on your SNES controller. For games like Metroid Fusion, you can remap your buttons to jump with B and shoot with Y. While for RPGs like Pokemon, you can remap Start on X and Select on A, giving you DS style Pokemon controls for your GBA games.
You could also use a Raphnet N64 to Gamecube adapter as an option for playing on the Gameboy Player. It may sound weird at first to think of using the N64's odd controller for this, but if you really think about it the N64 controller with its D-Pad all the way to the left, the A and B buttons at a slant and the convenient placement of the L and R shoulder buttons may make it a candidate for a really nice controller to use with Gameboy games. If the original controller bothers you still, then you can use the same Raphnet adapter with Retro Fighters new controller called the Brawler 64 which has a much more modern layout.
This type of content like yours, LGR, and Techmoan to name a few are what makes UA-cam such a wonderful place. Not unlike most of the crap you find making millions of views.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
Even scarier is that DSP somehow has more subs than any of the three you mentioned...
LazyScoutJace ***LISPYJIMMY*** *the plague of yt*
...you ever seen the movie, Idiocracy. Yeah, that's happening in real life.
At least this video has half a million views now
It’s a start
This is epic!! It must have took you forever to shoot and edit. Good job :)
[Try4ce] It did, no joke! I spent almost all of November shooting and editing it, not to mention all the research and writing that went into it beforehand!
You guys are by far my FAVORITE retro gaming channel for this reason. Very high quality content. Keep up the fantastic work!
My Life in Gaming, can you do a PS2 or original Xbox RGB video? Thanks!
My Life in Gaming Can Swiss on the Gamecube force High Definition?
WOOOOW METAL JESUS !!!! Hey jesus, i bought a gba classic yesterday, and i never had one, so i didnt know how to react to the fact the GBA screen flickers, its like if have interference of some kind but some people tell me its normal, and so others tell me its rare stuff. What do you think about this???
regards !!!
It should be noted that the micro’s colors are CLOSER to what the console was originally meant to present. GBA games were made with a non-illuminated LCD in mind, so the colors were severely intensified to make them appear vivid on a dark LCD. When the backlit SP came along, the colors became comically over-saturated as a result. The micro purposefully addressed/fixed this issue.
Wow! I have a bunch of those black cartridges but I never knew they were GBC enhanced, just thought it was some strange color scheme! Great video!
INFORMATION OVERLOAD....
Amazing work, much quality content over this timespan deserves more recognition!
Same, lol. This is so much worse than RGB Video when I was new to it xD
You guys are incredible ^^ A 1 hour anthology on the gameboy, very well edited too! Kudos to you for putting so much work and effort! Love you guys
Matthew Shezmen u have 300k subs and u only got 2 likes xdxdxd
Oh boy! A new episode. And its only...
AN HOUR LONG?!
Man I'm so glad I found this channel. It was years ago and I can't stop watching. It has become my favorite youtube channel. Thanks MLiG for making my down time interesting!
You can never unsee video games from the 90s and early 2000s after watching a My Life in Gaming episode.
an hour?. . . FUCK YEAH THAT'S A LIKE
You missed an interesting one. Goomba Color.
It's a Game Boy Color emulator for GBA. It allows you to play GB/GBC games on a Game Boy Micro.
But what's most interesting is that it supports Game Boy Color enhancements AND Super Game Boy borders at the same time. You can play LInk's Awakening DX, in full color with the SGB border and on original Nintendo hardware!
I just wanna point out. On a modded 3DS, you can remove the dark filter you were talking about and play all GBA games perfectly with virtual console injection. Modding a 3DS is super easy right now.
Spencer | Sweis12 I know about injecting other GBA games, but how do you remove the dark filter?
TheRealSeiferoth In many injection programs, it’s an option you can choose when creating CIAs.
TheBlackSoul thanks. I didn't realise. I've always downloaded them pre-injected. I'll have to try injecting my own in future then.
TheBlackSoul Wouldn’t you want the Dark Filter however? Most GBA games were not designed to be seen natively, and for a few games “restores” GBP palettes.
That can cause image retention and potentially damage the 3DS screens. I wouldn't do it. The Dark filter isn't so bad in that case.
Wow. I had no idea my GBA was an "AGS-101" until watching this video. I didn't even know that there were two versions of the GBA SP before watching this video either!
I feel like I went through a college level course.
Wow, that was a long one! Once again, the production value that you guys put into your videos is just incredible!
Holy Belgium! This is incredibly comprehensive. Great work!
Nowadays thanks to the 3DS homebrew scene now you can play practically the whole GBA library on the 3DS using the same method of the ambassador program, with some improvements :)
Tri4ce did an amazing job on editing. This entire video felt so easy to watch and had all the bullet points at the end to sum it all up. Seriously good.
I love this video so much, keep returning to it every so often. Thank you so much for being part of my life... In gaming (hehe)
My Life in Gaming makes the best video on all of You Tube
Miles Greb
I believe that you missed the fact that some Super Game Boy enhanced games have extra audio effects when played on a Super Game Boy, using the SNES's sound chip.
[Try4ce] Yeah, we acknowledged that there are features besides colors and border, but didn't say what. Since the video was so long as it was, we tried to mostly stick to video-related aspects. Though we went off the rails a few times, like with the Hori controllers.
***** No worries, just something I thought I'd mention. I look forward to the development of the game boy screen replacements.
That's true ^^ One example is Toy Story on the Game Boy
Helloz World Donkey Kong Classic and Kirby's Dreamland 2 are honestly some of the best examples.
I didn't even know half this stuff existed. This was one amazing video.
Watching your videos lights some kind of fire for my love of vintage games. Thank you for making the videos you do!
Rozoken omg it’s ROZO!!
I really enjoyed that OBJECTION moment
an hour might seem like too long for a UA-cam vid, but it was chock full of really nice info and very entertaining. this is the first time watching one of your videos and you definitely earned the sub. can't wait to go through your other vids, and watch the ones to come!
One hour!? Amazing content guys!
KamatsuKyoto and the whole thing is great!
I was waiting for this video for 6 months! 1 hour of MLIG? Let me make some coffee...
im not a retro gaming guy, but damn, this is some superb channel.
Who would take so much effort on such a small niche?
Good audio, good video, good cutting, very good quality comparisons...
Why hasn't youtube promoted this channel to me before?
Thank you for this video. I never knew about Swiss and GBI until I saw this.
I now have a Game Boy Player running GBI-SR at 240p over RGB SCART (sync over composite for guaranteed compatibility across devices). Managed to get the config files to default to my desired settings and set GBI-SR to autoexec so it's as simple as boot and play like as if it's stock.
One handy thing about being a PAL gamer is having a HDTV with SCART still supported and actually upscaled rather well without the need for a separate upscaler device (thank you Panasonic).
superb episode - no clue why you just have 40k subs... keep up guyssssss.... love that content!
Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I am DEFINITELY keeping this high quality video in mind. I've been really wanting to get back into playing Game Boy/Color/Advance games, so this came at a perfect time for me.
This channel has some good quality content. Very well researched and edited.
As a kid I had a Game Boy Advance. At night I played with my brother's Game Boy Advance SP while he was asleep. When he was moving out he gave me his Game Boy Advance SP. I had a bag filled with my Game Boy Advance, Game Boy Advance SP, & LeapFrog Didj along with many games. Unfortunately that bag of nostalgia got stolen.
What I still don't understand is why North America and Europe never got the Game Boy Light or the Super Game Boy 2, nor why the SGB2 was released for the Super Famicom/Super Nintendo instead of the Nintendo 64.
*applause* Absolutely stand-out work on this episode, you guys. This must've taken an eternity to research, get the hardware, do all the in-depth analysis, and put together the script and video itself. I'm seriously impressed. You two deserve WAY more attention.
"I'm so ready for that Game Boy Episode to be out!"
*Over an hour long*
".... Let's do this!"
11:25 - LOL I was holding my Game Boy DMG and by accident turned it on with Mario Land 2 just in time for the music to almost perfectly line up with the video. It was eerie.
y'all absolutely NAILED the nostalgic sensation in your intro. So good. Love your content!
Wow, this is the most detailed video about Gameboy family of handhelds. I've played GB,GBC,GBA SP,DS and 3DS. I currently own two 3DS XLs, GBC GBA SP and GB player for Game Cube. I haven't done any mods to my handhelds but the mod makes games look really good and crisp. Great video guys keep em coming.
Wow,Tons of great info here!
The only one extra thing worth mentioning is the 'monster brain'
Aside to being a cheat device, it allows custom pallets for GB games on a real GBC,
it can also (attempt) to run GB games in GBC mode with the extra cpu speed
As well as stipping Dual mode GBC games back to GB mode, so you could run Say zelda DX or tetris DX with one of the generic gbc pallets (including black&white)!
[Try4ce] Woah that's very interesting, I had never heard of that! It also appears to be very cheap. It seems to be designed for Pokemon games. It works with any Game Boy game, though? I've just never been that big of a fan of the GBC palettes.
Yes, it works for just about any gb/gbc game. and it even has a feature that makes it act as a budget 'mega memory card'
It's a great device that many people have never heard of! and unlike the SGB, your custom pallets can be saved in the devices (non-volatile memory)
I'd really suggest checking out!
Holy crap that HDMY Boy thing looks amazing! I really hope the developers finish development and start selling the things soon! I really like the idea of a Game Boy sandwich, I kinda hope that feature of the prototype makes it to the final build.
*slow clap* Amazing video and in depth information as always gentlemen. I've never once watched one of your videos and thought "Why didn't they touch on X as an option.".
Now that I have all this stuff I really need a "101" on organized system functionality. This rabbit hole never ends. Love it
I cant believe the work you guys put in, it honestly brings me to tears you care as much as i do for this art and how its given to the world
Amazing video! Such in-depth research translated in a clean, friendly-to-watch video that can be as helpful and entertaining to enthusiasts and casual players. Good job!
Right... 1 hour 2 minutes... I'm gonna go make coffee and get a snack.
It's cold out here in maine time for some hot chocolate and my life in gaming episode :D
pretty cold here in Canada too :P
Some green tea and weed:D Just a j/k it's MrPibb and weed.
-25 for a week! Makes for thick blood...
It's warm in Florida. Warm in December. Logic.
Real talk; how long did you spend cleaning your Wii U's glossy finish before recording?
He still cleans to this day
@@nihil8607 2 years from now his consoles will still shine
probably not long if you know the trick, wet clean with an electronics wipe, dry with a kymball blue towel, then rub it down very lightly with a dryer sheet and redry it with a different kymball blue towel. the drier sheet cuts a ton of the static out so dust is lees likely to be attracted back to it for a relatively short time.
Not only is this video well written and extremely informative, it was also very well shot. The camerawork is simply top notch. Kudos to you guys on your excellent videos.
I can’t believe this is the second time I’ve watched this video all the way through. Awesome work!
53:07; omg there’s a spelling error, how have I never noticed this even after watching this video like 10 times for entertainment reasons?
Crazy, in-depth video. Great job, earned a sub.
Man, I have component cables for my cube but I didnt realize the official software isn't good. This video is inspiring me to get some gamecube homebrew, but I don't know what exactly I need to start.
[Try4ce] Some sort of SD media card reader for GameCube memory slots for starters. Then, your disc-launcher methods are either an Action Replay, or there is a method you can use via Super Smash Bros. Melee, which I am unfamiliar with... should be easy to search for, though.
paulink you can build your own SD memory card adapter. Or purchase an SD gecko (they were pretty cheap back in the day, not sure if they're still that easy to come by though). Then if you have an action replay, there is a set of codes you can use and instead of swapping discs you just open and close the lid with the action replay disc still inside and it will boot from your SD gecko (or DIY adapter). You need certain files in certain places on the SD card but just Google and you should find what you need.
The Gaming Historian sent me here! Love it! You've just gotten a new subscriber!!
I find this kind of stuff fascinating even though I don't collect retro myself. These are also the kinds of videos I watch when I get the urge to start collecting, just because I'm reminded that it can be a nightmare lol
23:42 ahhhhh there’s my pixels
imagine a 3ds adapter for switch o.o
I always dream with a Super 3DS for Wii U :(
@@AnonymousGentooman not necessarily. The super boy. The GB player and the Transfer pack for n64 all of them where made with the hardware of the system. So doing a similar thing with the 3DS hardware wouldn't be so difficult since a 2DS cost 80$ they could have produced a 3DS adapter for 60$ taking away the screen and everything else
@The SNES Man at thai point os obvious that is not gonna happen. but back in 2014 that would be the best. probably we wouldn't see 3DS games on a long time
Imagine if there was a 3DS micro. I doubt either will pass. Nintendo no longer markets or tracks the sales of the 3DS
How exactly would this work? It would be better with Wii U.
Credit to you guys. This must have taken a lot of work to produce. Superb, gents.
Hi, I'm from the future and this video still the greatest GB video on UA-cam!
Despite the fact that I don't have a problem with composite video, and don't really care all that much about 100% crisp video, these videos are still very entertaining and fun to watch, keep it up!
holy crap how'd you make a video about video quality on a system with a built in screen that's over an hour no less?
Beats watching soap operas/mocumentaries on the Discovery Channel.
55:47
"huh, this system looks pretty good"
*significant aesthetic issue with the game i speedrun*
4:43 "Don't step there! The ground's painted on an animation cel!"
Wow its so impressive how far we have come in the modding community on the GB, GBP, GBC, GBA, and GBA SP
God, I can watch your RGB Master Class series over and over again haha. Love these videos.
MLiG Saves the Game Boy's Christmas: The Holiday Extravaganza.
One factor to note for the SP vs. the original GBA is the headphone jack: the original model has one, but all SPs do not. Understandable why it isn't brought up, not your area, but it is an important factor for many, so I'm putting it here for those folks.
RarefoilB The lack of a Headphone jack always seemed like the biggest oversight of the SP to me, and the adapters for that just seem like a clunky alternative.
[Try4ce] Yeah, it crossed my mind to mention it (I have the adapter somewhere), but decided not to since we didn't want to spend too much time straying from video quality when the video was already so long.
If I'm being honest, you guys over at Mlig should DEFINITELY do a series on game console audio quality. Most consoles need it.
*COUGH* the Sega genesis *COUGH*
Are you guys not doing the "Welcome to RGB 208" line anymore? I always liked that.
+RaptureWillRiseAgain [Try4ce] Heh, I guess we mix it up a bit. Usually that line is born from not having any better ideas for how to get into it. It may come back in the future!
Let's just accept the fact that every Nintendo handheld has its 1 problem and that's ok unless your not happy and decide to mod the shit out of it
It is 3 am and I have work after few hours, but I just couldn't stop watching this video 😍
I just watched this entire thing from start to finish... and the intro alone is what made me subscribe to you because that entire intro was phenomenal great job guys for real
This is amazing!! Great job making this!
Absolutely astounding work. You guys are awesome
If you want to play on the big screen... sorry, but emulation really is the superior way in this case.
Like mention in the video, both the Super GB and the GB Player runs at ~60hz instead of the GBs/GBAs native ~59.7hz. You will never get the perfect silky smooth scrolling of the original hardware that way, there's always going to be a hitch every few seconds.
With emulators you can slightly speed up the hardware to match your monitors refresh rate, or even better, if own a CRT or GSYNC monitor you can actually run the games at their original ~59.7hz.
Emulators are for noobs
You have the best intro of any YT gaming channel I have seen.
Incredible episode, even years later! Who'd have thought the PAL GameCube would still have a major use case? I still beam at seeing my name at 39:55 and the end credits. Thanks, folks. :D
This is epic!!! EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!
Doctor: You have 1 hour, 2 minutes and 55 seconds to live
You: I'm gonna watch this entire video
Sorry bout the ads then.
@@HP-pg5vg For that AdBlock exists.
@@MarioMario456 how do you get enough time to install adblock and watch this video
No need. I'll just respawn.
Regarding GBA on 3DS - this is the BEST way to play GBA games - even better than any TV or 'real' GBA hardware mode. It uses 100% GBA hardware and firmware and therefore doesn't utilise any emulation whatsoever. As you allude to, the Ambassador releases are terrible however - with added darkness and ghosting filters applied. If you install a custom firmware that patches the AGB-FIRM inside your 3DS you can use homebrew tools to create your own installable GBA titles free of the ugly filters Nintendo likes to use on some of their VC titles (the 3DS NES VC titles are also terrible - and also fixed by making your own NES VC games) . As an owner of a AGS101-modded original GBA I never thought the 3DS family would effectively make actual GBA hardware redundant, but it actually does so with ease - and I'll probably never use my older handhelds again. My favoured way to play GBA games in all their glory is actually on a CFW'd 2DS because this has arguably the best ergonomics of any Nintando handheld.
[Try4ce] I'll have to look into this. It might be fun to play around with custom firmware on my *Old* 3DS XL.
General Light You also lose a larger 1:1 aspect ratio display that you find on a modded OG GBA - but you can patch / find patched e-reader content if you really want it. For example, the Mario 3 e-reader levels that were included in the WiiU reissue can be patched in, and is arguably a superior solution to the real thing because a real cartridge hasn't got the spare memory to hold all the extra stuff. Not to mention having truly native support for three entire libraries on one hand held (GBA, DS and 3DS). That's pretty awesome by any measure.
General Light I don't think Nintendo have ever acknowledged the ghosting and darkness filters that are applied on the official 3DS NES and Ambassador GBA virtual console releases, let alone explain why they're applied. However, a minority of early GBA releases used super-bright palettes in order to compensate for the dark screen of the original unit, and these games probably benefit from the darkness filter to reduce the issue of crushed whites. There's also one case in which the added ghosting is beneficial: The GBA F-Zero games have a persistent map graphic on the bottom left of the screen, and without the filters its ultra high refresh rate can leave temporary screen burn on the 3DS screen. For the vast majority of the GBA library though the removal of the darkness / ghosting makes these games shine.
Do some self research on GBATemp Forums, and I'm sure you will find your way
I'm pretty sure the ambassador game sare emulated. 3DS may have AEM hardware, but it doesn't have "the" GBA hardware inside...
This video was absolutely outstanding! It has EVERYTHING! You guys rock!
EDIT: I like how 1:1:56 you guys show the original Gameboy Pocket before the battery indicator light was added. I still have my yellow version that came without it and hastily wrote down every Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle II level code I could before the batteries died, much to my parents' chagrin; the only perceivable indicator was a decrease in contrast as the batteries came close to dying. My little brother, of course, got a red GBP that included the indicator light, though he eventually gave it to me since he's not a retro gamer.
You guys pump out consistently super super high quality content. We all appreciate it!
7:30
I call slight bs on this, because I remember cutting the notches out on a pokemon crystal cartridge amd it worked fine in the ds I was using
Tim D Nchantr did work with some r4 cartridge but I think it’s emulated and it just reads the rom from the cartridge
Only one hour? :/
That's way too short.... but I'll still watch it.
wow it was pro tv quality,amazing!
I love the RGB 2xx series. Not so much for advice on best picture, but information on the iterations of systems and the mods out there. I hope for more 2xx series in the future.
This video is on documentary level.. great work guys...
Now that I see in this episode, the SNES' Video Quality even with 1Chip Consoles is a bit blurry compared to pure Digital Solutions... I hope one day people will be able to find a way to get pure Digital Signals out of the SNES even if it is near impossible... For now.... :3
Helloz World Yeah. There ought to be digital out mods for everything. Especially since the tech landscape is becoming more and more accepting of digital standards.
There's less of a push for digital on the SNES because you can actually get a really nice RGB picture if you know what to look for. The latest in the sharpest possible SNES picture is to now mod the mini model with a new 7374 RGB amp chip with the chip's filtering turned off. RetroRGB and I discovered this when we tested several models of SNES using a custom zoom profile with the Framemeister. With the filter turned off, the 7374-modded SNES mini puts out about the sharpest RGB picture I've seen yet, and it's only surpassed by digital images from emulators. However, the SNES 'suffers' from the same non-square resolution as the NES, and as such, using an RGB mod + Framemeister gives a much better solution for correcting the aspect ratio to 4:3. On digital images, correcting to 4:3 will leave random pixels oblong, which leads to shimmering artifacts during scrolling. The workaround is to slightly blur the edges in order to 'average' the width of the pixels, but this just mimics what the Framemeister already does naturally. You'd have to get used to playing with an image that is too wide or too skinny if you wanted to take full advantage of a digital picture's clarity. That's why a modded 1CHIP + Framemeister (and integer profiling) is a superb way to play games on the SNES.
KarbuncleX Is the difference between the 7314 and the 7374 that big as to make it worth it as an upgrade if I have already soldered the 7314 Board?
@Frozen, Most were, some weren't. However, since the SNES was in fact intended for 4:3 usage, that's what most people prefer to see the screen at. Take for example the triforce intro in Link to the Past. At 4:3 AR, the triforce are at perfect angles. At square pixel AR, they are oddly squished too skinny.
@ Helloz, depends on if you use a Framemeister or just going straight to a PVM. If you're upscaling with a Framemeister, it's worth getting a 7374, but make sure the filtering mode is disabled when you install it. That's the key to making the pixels super sharp.
so your telling me that if you really knew alot about 3ds arcitecture you could add a gba port to it
@The SNES Man If you are adding a new port, some homebrew is basically nothing.
Why didn't you mentioned emulators for android phones or for the psp?
[Try4ce] Well, obviously there are countless ways to emulate. Our videos are always going to first and foremost be about using real hardware, but we've started to try to include a bit of emulation. A lot of people want us to do videos all about emulation, but honestly there are a lot of people who are much more knowledgeable about it than we are. It's really not our area of expertise, so we just like to mention it in brief.
***** thanks for answering I really enjoyed the video I learned a lot just curious if you played emulators on android or psp and what was your thoughts and if you liked it keep up the good work
[Try4ce] I tried NES emulation on PSP a looong time ago. I enjoyed it a bit at the time!
***** I recently got a psp go and I really enjoyed NES emulator along with the GB, GBC and the GBA emulators the only one I was disappointed with was the snes emulator
you should try out the genesis emulator, it's amazing but yeah, SNES on PSP isn't too hot, while there are 3 good ones, compatibility is always an issue.
"Awkward workaround?" Sounds to me like a match made in heaven. Nintendo should've gone crazy with GBA on 3DS.
Jeez, it's weird how I can easily just watch an hour long video and not notice... Good job!