75% were working class and a huge portion of that percentage were in poverty. And when in poverty, EVERYBODY worked and they worked excruciatingly hard!!
Yup. Just like EVERYWERE, ever. I mean, if you really look into it, it was just after the industrial revolution that people started living longer and having free time [after]. Life was hard. retirement is a new thing. At least comparing to older times, there started to have a chance to grow in life. even if it was a small percentage. In poor contries, even nowadays, children work. There's no way around it. it survivorship.
Obviously, the first question, concerning husbands earning the living while their wives stayed at home to take care of the house and the children, was the ideal that most middle class Victorians aspired to. However, there is a giant leap between ideals and human foibles. Some men were not capable of supporting the family, either through injury, illness, or emotional needs, and their wives had to do something to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. Some women chose not to marry, or as they may have put it - never met the right man. These women, if they were not to be a burden on their families, had to find some way to support themselves. As far as voting goes, in the beginning, when the US was first established, only men who owned land could vote. Later the vote was spread to every man, unless he was a slave. After years of fighting for it, people who had once been slaves had the right to vote. In the beginning of the twentieth century, women won the right to vote. Each time a different class of people won the right to vote, the ability of the vote to affect what goes on in our government became less and then less. I strongly believe that if our great grandmothers, who fought so hard for women's right to vote, could see what is happening with our government today, and how the vote is perverted, they would turn over in their graves.
This was a very enjoyable video. I am looking forward to visiting with my mum. This is the second best museum I have been to after the Somerset Pencil Museum which I visited in 2002
My people were poor, sold tea and bread to get by. Finally got to the US. Dreamed of getting work at a Manchester factory. They never did. They never expected to survive. Grandma always worried over food, even though she survived fine. She lost her family in the flu epidemic.
For anyone who have watched the Matrix franchise, then this can get a whole other meaning considering the use of the intro part of Matrix's Theme Song "Clubbed To Death" Thanks for the info anyways
Common and unfortunate misconecption. Rates of adultery were lower during the victorian era than had ever been, or would be, in England. Chilren received substantially better nutrition and education than in previous generations. Work ethic peaked and crime rates nadired. It is a general rule that people become what they think they ought to.
@@lowellbrooker2148 I guess it depends on how they defined 'adultery'. Because the numbers of Women and Children in prostitution were outrageous. Plus.. everybody lies about Adultery. Who did the survey? Better off children? Maybe?
@@gayleandreah The preponderance of prostitution is another misconception about the Victorian era. According to most credible estimates, the amount of prostitutes in London fluctuated (and I would add, mostly declined) between 8,600-4,000 during the victorian era. Acton, William (1857). (Reprint of the Second Edition with new biographical note ed.). London: Frank Cass (published 1972). By contrast in today's London, there are an estimated 32,000 prostitutes Prostitution - Parliament Publicationspublications.parliament.uk › cmselect › cmhaff.
@@gayleandreah The origin of the myth of an overabundance of Victorian prostitution is very clear: Victorians were far more convinced in the sinfulness and harmfulness of prostitution then we are. Thus, even though it was less of an issue, more attention was paid to it by leading authorities and social commentators. An apt analogy would be how in modern day Britain more time is spent talking about racism, yet I am sure you would agree it was more common during the Victorian era.
@@lowellbrooker2148 That was no myth. Desperate times. Women had few options. Very few social supports. Racism is everywhere. Guess you live a privileged life. Nobody is racist or exploits you. Lucky boy.
Hard work and people were not as wasteful as today. I feel perhaps people had stronger morals back then, so many social wrongs are overlooked today. Back then if you committed a crime you were punished and made an example of. Today people get away with too much. Also the little things were appreciated more. Sometimes wish for a simpler time where people didnt walk around with a stupid phone glued to their faces
you are mad, the privileged ones were all greedy making an mess of human relations what kind of people marry their cousins just to stay affluent and the worst part for people then was being born in england or india or the other colonies over time things improved and people with smarts who invented useful things like electric motor or the fridge came along and people who didn't refine oil for 40 times the price in the us today we go again at this idea of gating out people , 0,3 % are wery well of but lock at that massacre the middle class performs to put another 200k usd in their pocket, tipical victorian asholnes if it warrent for the real things that last 30 years made up of atoms not words and dreams wed be wors of today an induction motor does work for 30 years , the fridge is more useful in terms of health than higean and dentists table manners arent atoms, its an status, status = lies we like to believe
I think my Grandma definitely had some of these values. she came from a good family and was brought up to be a perfect Lady as she was very Posh one of her favourite meals was roast Chicken. her Mum and Dad was perhaps slightly better off than some people that they must have known in their village because they had a inside WC while their Friends still had outside ones. I learned how to respect money from her
People think poor these days is homeless , but no poor is retired and disabled. Also poor is homeless. Some of us is poor working class because we learn different then average human. Some of us have a learning style of tactical, vision, or audio. Most people learn with all three style. School style of teaching does not help the people who learn by one, or the other learning style. College does not either. Students has to be the perfect learning style , or they get pass through school.
Better? Come on, we're all too much counter-productive and wasteful. We are slowly destroying our morals and decency yet we don't see that because it makes our lives seem comfortable, carefree, and "progressive."
it is fiction considering that the belief in God and the Bible were very prominent in the Victorian era however their Dynamic that you just spoke of neglects what is covered in Proverbs 31 verse 10 -31 the description of a worthy woman.
Showing a blond man after showing a balding dark-haired man saying he is him... what? And did they run out of girl blouses (the pink shirt girl)? And those children are way too clean and awake and breathing much too normally for cotton mill children... and only ten hours a day and no younger than 10? That’s rather rare... and many mill owners employing children were NOT kind to them... they’d commonly lose fingers/limbs and get in trouble for it and even lose their job if they don’t lose their lives!
Things had to change for the masses Victorian society because of the health of the safety in jobs , education with the change of work and the hypocrisy over sex and marriage. Of course there is the sensitive issue of cruelty and hypocritical views and treatment of homosexuals , ethnic groups , yes they did exist in those days , as well as Irish Scots and Welsh. Much of this has been over looked many documentaries.
Those sensitive issues have been sensitive for much of human history. They've only been brought to light and given rightful understanding in the recent decades. For the vast majority of human history, it was taboo. With India probably being an exception in regards to sexuality as they literally worshipped sex (old hindu temples)
@Nexus Reality per week or less! AND that’s considering it was working almost around the clock every day and so very dangerous, like losing limbs, and getting in trouble for it and losing your job over it, wasn’t uncommon. And that is if they were lucky to have a job at all!
Those are bonnets that the woman and girls are wearing, not hijabs! They were fashion articles designed to keep the head warm or to protect the face from the sun in summertime, NOT items worn to express the religious oppression of females! That has never been practiced in Europe.
Yes the bizzare barbaric rituals and class system of victorian era and tradition is an absolute fact . It had created poverty all around the world whether it is africa , india , china , mesopotamia , iraq etc . A system which makes people slave for the 1 % i.e (royal family and aristrocrat's ) people and tie their mental abilities . Victorian brits and then prime minister winston churchill had killed 6 million indians due to hunger and famine by transfering their food supply to europe at the time of ww2 . Britshers and victorians were just like the fascist nazi hitler and musollini . They call their nation a democracy but this is a fact that they are a brutual monarchy. Jallian wala bagh massacre of punjab by general dyre , extorting taxes from poor peasants and farmers of india , africa , turkey , egypt and colonies then, partition of indian subcontinent 1947 are the biggest crimes britishers had done against humanity !!!!!!!!! .
It is British, not Britishers! Otherwise you are talking about a nation that does not exist. Also Britain even in it's worse moments is still better than the shithole that is modern India. You treat your women disgustingly. And no, you can't blame any western nation for that, it is all comes from your ignorant, barbaric culture.
75% were working class and a huge portion of that percentage were in poverty. And when in poverty, EVERYBODY worked and they worked excruciatingly hard!!
Yup. Just like EVERYWERE, ever. I mean, if you really look into it, it was just after the industrial revolution that people started living longer and having free time [after]. Life was hard. retirement is a new thing. At least comparing to older times, there started to have a chance to grow in life. even if it was a small percentage. In poor contries, even nowadays, children work. There's no way around it. it survivorship.
"It's much better here." .... "Is it?" LOL
meganpitt Yup! I don't want that life 😂😂😂
@@raisa_cherry35 can’t blame ya, the barely made anything, working around the clock everyday, and in very dangerous conditions
Obviously, the first question, concerning husbands earning the living while their wives stayed at home to take care of the house and the children, was the ideal that most middle class Victorians aspired to. However, there is a giant leap between ideals and human foibles. Some men were not capable of supporting the family, either through injury, illness, or emotional needs, and their wives had to do something to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. Some women chose not to marry, or as they may have put it - never met the right man. These women, if they were not to be a burden on their families, had to find some way to support themselves.
As far as voting goes, in the beginning, when the US was first established, only men who owned land could vote. Later the vote was spread to every man, unless he was a slave. After years of fighting for it, people who had once been slaves had the right to vote. In the beginning of the twentieth century, women won the right to vote. Each time a different class of people won the right to vote, the ability of the vote to affect what goes on in our government became less and then less. I strongly believe that if our great grandmothers, who fought so hard for women's right to vote, could see what is happening with our government today, and how the vote is perverted, they would turn over in their graves.
This was a very enjoyable video. I am looking forward to visiting with my mum. This is the second best museum I have been to after the Somerset Pencil Museum which I visited in 2002
Completely agree
Numbnuts
I’d have to agree the pencil museum definitely stays first place, but this is close second!
Just checked on the website and tickets are sold out :( Think I will have to settle for The Carpet Museum in Shinfield
Victorian era, my favourite era.
Yes great period for keeping the working classes down ..... but it did t last
@@ianreynolds8552 it did and the edwardian era was much worse, at least the victorian era was big on family and community
The icon for this video reminds me of The Addams Family Values.
My people were poor, sold tea and bread to get by. Finally got to the US. Dreamed of getting work at a Manchester factory. They never did. They never expected to survive. Grandma always worried over food, even though she survived fine. She lost her family in the flu epidemic.
For anyone who have watched the Matrix franchise, then this can get a whole other meaning considering the use of the intro part of Matrix's Theme Song "Clubbed To Death"
Thanks for the info anyways
The victorians paid huge lip service to family and personal values but really never lived up to that.
Common and unfortunate misconecption. Rates of adultery were lower during the victorian era than had ever been, or would be, in England. Chilren received substantially better nutrition and education than in previous generations. Work ethic peaked and crime rates nadired.
It is a general rule that people become what they think they ought to.
@@lowellbrooker2148 I guess it depends on how they defined 'adultery'. Because the numbers of Women and Children in prostitution were outrageous. Plus.. everybody lies about Adultery. Who did the survey? Better off children? Maybe?
@@gayleandreah The preponderance of prostitution is another misconception about the Victorian era. According to most credible estimates, the amount of prostitutes in London fluctuated (and I would add, mostly declined) between 8,600-4,000 during the victorian era. Acton, William (1857). (Reprint of the Second Edition with new biographical note ed.). London: Frank Cass (published 1972).
By contrast in today's London, there are an estimated 32,000 prostitutes Prostitution - Parliament Publicationspublications.parliament.uk › cmselect › cmhaff.
@@gayleandreah The origin of the myth of an overabundance of Victorian prostitution is very clear: Victorians were far more convinced in the sinfulness and harmfulness of prostitution then we are. Thus, even though it was less of an issue, more attention was paid to it by leading authorities and social commentators. An apt analogy would be how in modern day Britain more time is spent talking about racism, yet I am sure you would agree it was more common during the Victorian era.
@@lowellbrooker2148 That was no myth. Desperate times. Women had few options. Very few social supports. Racism is everywhere. Guess you live a privileged life. Nobody is racist or exploits you. Lucky boy.
Very helpful and nicely presented. Thanks lot
I’m doing school homework on this it’s very sad
Same.
Hard work and people were not as wasteful as today. I feel perhaps people had stronger morals back then, so many social wrongs are overlooked today. Back then if you committed a crime you were punished and made an example of. Today people get away with too much. Also the little things were appreciated more. Sometimes wish for a simpler time where people didnt walk around with a stupid phone glued to their faces
in some places it was low and why plagues start
Suger coating history family values utter rubbish very little followed it
Hypocrisy was rampant too.
@@manuelpalmeira7278 was?
you are mad,
the privileged ones were all greedy making an mess of human relations
what kind of people marry their cousins just to stay affluent
and the worst part for people then was being born in england or india or the other colonies
over time things improved and people with smarts who invented useful things like electric motor or the fridge came along and people who didn't refine oil for 40 times the price
in the us today we go again at this idea of gating out people , 0,3 % are wery well of but lock at that massacre the middle class performs to put another 200k usd in their pocket, tipical victorian asholnes
if it warrent for the real things that last 30 years made up of atoms not words and dreams wed be wors of today
an induction motor does work for 30 years , the fridge is more useful in terms of health than higean and dentists
table manners arent atoms, its an status, status = lies we like to believe
Family values should never have changed and are coming back thank god.
I think my Grandma definitely had some of these values. she came from a good family and was brought up to be a perfect Lady as she was very Posh
one of her favourite meals was roast Chicken. her Mum and Dad was perhaps slightly better off than some people that they must have known in their village because they had a inside WC while their Friends still had outside ones. I learned how to respect money from her
The country was better because people feared God, yes there was poverty, but not the moral poverty we have today.
😍 They way they talked. I could listen to it for hours. Lovely video. Thank you
The children weren’t that good at it but it’s ok, they did well anyway and they are endearing, and not actors, so it’s ok
People think poor these days is homeless , but no poor is retired and disabled. Also poor is homeless. Some of us is poor working class because we learn different then average human. Some of us have a learning style of tactical, vision, or audio. Most people learn with all three style. School style of teaching does not help the people who learn by one, or the other learning style. College does not either. Students has to be the perfect learning style , or they get pass through school.
i m doing my paper i have less time, z tell me that " why there was need to focus on society at that time? " plz plz help 😭
Thank you very interesting
The Tory's have brought it back
It never went away!
Tory’s: belonging to Tory.
Tories* and no they haven’t
Whom do you blame for your illiterate use of apostrophes?
it's better living today, but if you believe in reancarnation, than we all live in that time
we just don't remember 😀
I'm a firm believer in reincarnation :)
Better? Come on, we're all too much counter-productive and wasteful. We are slowly destroying our morals and decency yet we don't see that because it makes our lives seem comfortable, carefree, and "progressive."
The King's Hussar you would rather the majority of the population lived hand to mouth
@@CH-xq6if What are you saying?
it is fiction considering that the belief in God and the Bible were very prominent in the Victorian era however their Dynamic that you just spoke of neglects what is covered in Proverbs 31 verse 10 -31 the description of a worthy woman.
Stuffy values, indeed!
Showing a blond man after showing a balding dark-haired man saying he is him... what?
And did they run out of girl blouses (the pink shirt girl)? And those children are way too clean and awake and breathing much too normally for cotton mill children... and only ten hours a day and no younger than 10? That’s rather rare... and many mill owners employing children were NOT kind to them... they’d commonly lose fingers/limbs and get in trouble for it and even lose their job if they don’t lose their lives!
Read CASTE by Isobel Wilkerson
Things had to change for the masses Victorian society because of the health of the safety in jobs , education with the change of work and the hypocrisy over sex and marriage. Of course there is the sensitive issue of cruelty and hypocritical views and treatment of homosexuals , ethnic groups , yes they did exist in those days , as well as Irish Scots and Welsh. Much of this has been over looked many documentaries.
Those sensitive issues have been sensitive for much of human history. They've only been brought to light and given rightful understanding in the recent decades. For the vast majority of human history, it was taboo. With India probably being an exception in regards to sexuality as they literally worshipped sex (old hindu temples)
Hoster Tullie
You couldn't rise above your class at all back then once you were poor that was it,,,,maids stayed maids
'Scuse me, but the house wives were actually trans.
The children were paid 2s/3d. Was that per weeK?
Per week or less!
@Nexus Reality per week or less! AND that’s considering it was working almost around the clock every day and so very dangerous, like losing limbs, and getting in trouble for it and losing your job over it, wasn’t uncommon. And that is if they were lucky to have a job at all!
Urchins???
Children of the street, often abandoned or neglected by their families of all classes. Think of Gavroche from Les Miserables or Oliver Twist
3:41 White girl wears hijab 😍💓
Those are bonnets that the woman and girls are wearing, not hijabs! They were fashion articles designed to keep the head warm or to protect the face from the sun in summertime, NOT items worn to express the religious oppression of females! That has never been practiced in Europe.
Huh
Yes the bizzare barbaric rituals and class system of victorian era and tradition is an absolute fact . It had created poverty all around the world whether it is africa , india , china , mesopotamia , iraq etc . A system which makes people slave for the 1 % i.e (royal family and aristrocrat's ) people and tie their mental abilities . Victorian brits and then prime minister winston churchill had killed 6 million indians due to hunger and famine by transfering their food supply to europe at the time of ww2 . Britshers and victorians were just like the fascist nazi hitler and musollini . They call their nation a democracy but this is a fact that they are a brutual monarchy. Jallian wala bagh massacre of punjab by general dyre , extorting taxes from poor peasants and farmers of india , africa , turkey , egypt and colonies then, partition of indian subcontinent 1947 are the biggest crimes britishers had done against humanity !!!!!!!!! .
It is British, not Britishers! Otherwise you are talking about a nation that does not exist.
Also Britain even in it's worse moments is still better than the shithole that is modern India. You treat your women disgustingly. And no, you can't blame any western nation for that, it is all comes from your ignorant, barbaric culture.
very politically loaded isnt it
Fiction
Brexit means brexit
Why is this so goddamn goofy